Rethinking Port Townsend History: PART 1

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  • @pangeanbordelo3071
    @pangeanbordelo3071 Рік тому +4

    My family owns an apt building right next to the fountain in downtown such a Beautiful place

  • @nuovopianetaterra5484
    @nuovopianetaterra5484 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for your work,you ask the right questions,brilliant.

  • @sluggoboyce
    @sluggoboyce Рік тому +4

    Incredible video. I grew up in Victoria BC. We have so many reset buildings downtown . Thanks you 🙏

  • @bethmartof1262
    @bethmartof1262 Рік тому +3

    Thank you! Thank you! Wonderful video. Loved the music. I had sent Michelle Gibson of YT pictures of PT. I hope you two will talk.
    Just got back from Victoria, BC. There’s loads of buildings there too, especially churches. You’ve got to go there and spend a couple of days. Many look like they have had their towers or spires cut off as well; just by looking at their flat tops, you know there was something more. Also, there’s the Governor’s Mansion there that supposedly burned down, but they kept the old stone entrance, which is interesting. Likewise, where they’ve planted all the Garry Oaks (that they say are natural and endangered), the stones around look like they’ve been melted, and that’s in Upland Park as well. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for sharing! Victoria is marvelous. I'm sure their history is equally enigmatic.

  • @lucidparalysis2794
    @lucidparalysis2794 Рік тому +3

    The library there looks absolutely insane! The bunker is pretty cool too!

  • @user-uj3zv8qd1f
    @user-uj3zv8qd1f 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for doing this show.

  • @jameskennedy60nSoCal
    @jameskennedy60nSoCal Рік тому +6

    Another great job! We used to live there n Gig Harbor. Many rainy Saturdays I would take my three sons for a ride up to Port Townsend and then years later Little League brought us there a few times… I have always marveled at the amazing architecture that seemed way too old and out of place, according to what I knew of history, as I naturally compared it to the cities I architecture that I up around; that is Boston…
    BTW, how does Port Angeles compare to Port Townsends?
    Thanks for your effort.
    James

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! I would like to look into Port Angeles more in the future.

    • @jkm3297
      @jkm3297 Рік тому +1

      No comparison really. Port Townsend is way more incredible

  • @KathyCoker53
    @KathyCoker53 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this video. it's interesting to see the hidden history!

  • @elizabethlind7774
    @elizabethlind7774 3 місяці тому

    OMG! That is my Art Studio in Robert’s former Violin Studio! The Mount Baker Block building, like many buildings here in town have ghosts, but they are mostly curious. I wonder if Robert ever saw weird lights moving around the walls.

  • @billywhite1362
    @billywhite1362 Рік тому +2

    Great Work.

  • @user-uj3zv8qd1f
    @user-uj3zv8qd1f 10 місяців тому

    grew up here in Port Townsend, guess I spent much of the last 70 years of my life rethinking its history. You see growing up here my dad was kind of a local historian who with the help of my mom wrote articles for the local weakly The Leader and in the last years of his life I helped them publish those articles in a book form and scanning thousands of his old photos I never thought to my self how did port Townsend get built in such a short time. But it was somehow, and lot more that you that has been done in such a short time. There is just something sort of magical about this place, one that would make a person want to build a yurt here.

    • @ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy
      @ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy 10 місяців тому +1

      Could you tell us the name of the book, please, so we can find it? Thanks.

    • @user-uj3zv8qd1f
      @user-uj3zv8qd1f 10 місяців тому

      Sorry I did not notice your reply. My father published two books. The first one was called Rural Jefferson Coiunty History and Maritine History. The second title was Port Townsend memories. Both of these books we self publised from articles that he had written for a collum in the Port Townsend, and he als cowrote a book with Peter Simpson titled Port Townsend years that are gone. Unfortunately, all three books are out of print now. @@ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy

  • @skysteppes
    @skysteppes 4 місяці тому +1

    Port Orchard in Southworth neighborhood (behind the baseball diamond down by the slew) was a very large brick factory. Could have transported bricks by barge to P.T .

    • @laswan5
      @laswan5 3 місяці тому

      There are photos of men making bricks downtown. In Port Townsend.

  • @pantherx4789
    @pantherx4789 11 місяців тому +4

    The Chinese laborers built Port Townsend, but weren’t counted as “citizens”, and were basically housed in a sequestered Chinatown(which was built on the ashes of the original Native American village 3:10 which was ordered burned to the ground by the government) and which was again eventually burned to the ground(with the exception of the oldest brick building in Downtown Port Townsend, The Old Zee Tai building, which was Chinese owned and ran the labor force for the town) and who were then subsequently forced out of town after the Chinese Exclusion Act. This is the same story in cities across the country. The Chinese were used as laborers and then when the country took an economic downturn, they were given the boot or worse. What is even more appalling is that the contribution the Chinese immigrants made to building the cities and railroads, especially of the west coast is severely under reported. The Historical Society of Jefferson county like other counties of the Western States like to repeat the old trope of the great white men like “Eisenbeis” or “Hastings”who “built” these beautiful buildings. These men didn’t build anything. They were just very good at exploiting others and the land that they stole from the native people of the area.

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  11 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for this comment. I had wondered about the Chinese labor question for a while, & now I will look more into it. Including the Chinese Exclusion Act. I appreciate that you put forward an plausible explanation-very few do. However, there are still so many unanswered questions, & as a builder I don’t think forced labor or servitude is enough to account for the exquisite masonry that these old buildings display-including those in pre-1889 Seattle, and so many other cities. Any more than slavery can explain the pyramids. Excavating foundations, yes. Carting millions of bricks, yes. But not high level masonry craftsmanship, Interior woodworking, etc etc. You need a substantial, stable, even generational population of artisan master builders along with all the sustaining infrastructure and family structure to go along with them. Also-how was downtown Port Townsend leveled and regraded way back then prior to the buildings even being built? I talk about this in one of the the videos in that series. Thank you again for you comments and hope to continue to explore together.

    • @laswan5
      @laswan5 3 місяці тому

      @@MarvelousOldWorld
      I think I recall my dad or my grandpa telling me much of downtown was actually water and it was all filled in. That's a little unsettling if you ask me. Pun wasn't really intended but it works! My great grandparents came here from Sweden and my grandpa was born here in the 1880's. We're now 6 generations. I wish I could talk to them now. Grat video. I wonder what it all means. There's so much hidden history in the world.

  • @pammatiti
    @pammatiti Рік тому +4

    Thanks will share. FYI, background music is too loud.

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +4

      Thank you. I agree and I'll work on that for future presentations.

  • @123rose3
    @123rose3 Рік тому

    Another stellar obra! Keep 'em coming Thunderbolt!

  • @swamprat69
    @swamprat69 9 місяців тому

    @33:20 One of the oldest illusion spells in the magi's book of tricks: using our own human nature against us.

  • @jamesyork-pryce2989
    @jamesyork-pryce2989 Рік тому +1

    Great video first of all. This is quite an anomaly. My first thought is the amount of laboring workforce. Which must have been large. Was not made or asked to sign the census, as they were not deemed necessary for it. Or didn't respond? Maybe they were camped outside of the city limits and came into town to do the work so again, were not put on the census. It is very strange. Just my thoughts. Great work.

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому

      Thank you! Check out part 2. It gets even more interesting.

  • @westernwashingtonhistory1889
    @westernwashingtonhistory1889 Рік тому +1

    Port Townsend was built so large because they thought the railroad was going to end there, as many towns of the era thought. It didnt end there, didnt even go there and the town fell. Just like Union and many others.

    • @seandelfin
      @seandelfin Рік тому +2

      that’s why they built ancient castles for teenagers to go to school in? because the railroad was gonna end there?

    • @laswan5
      @laswan5 3 місяці тому

      @@seandelfin
      What ancient castles? My grandma went to high school at the rec center uptown. That used to be a school.
      Manresa is called a castle but the only students there were the Jesuits.

  • @PrudentStudent666
    @PrudentStudent666 11 місяців тому

    Come for the night life. The town's businesses close down at 6:00pm. It is a hoot.

    • @ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy
      @ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy 10 місяців тому

      LOL - guess people congregate in groups when they feel like it, networking with each other. Sounds good compared with what has been happening in more "advanced" places where we don't know our neighbors and people have been divided too successfully by the sociopaths in power.

    • @rustyholt6619
      @rustyholt6619 9 місяців тому +1

      and dont open untill 10 am

  • @LijaMoore
    @LijaMoore Рік тому

    Thank you for taking the time to follow your passion and share it with us! Love the combo of beautiful images and gorgeous music, it truly provides comfort and healing to watch and listen.

  • @westernwashingtonhistory1889

    The antenna is a lightning rod, you are tripping. There is another beautiful building called Western State, in Steilacoom.

  • @marcinkwiatkowski9176
    @marcinkwiatkowski9176 Рік тому

    Just one little example of construction site that is present at the photo. Where are the others? With such a big cities there should be construction areas everywhere.
    And look at the paintings from that period - they show only allready standing buildings.

  • @westernwashingtonhistory1889

    at 8:50 you say, this is Enoch Fowler, but it is a picture of Gov. Isaac Stevens. Good video so far though, I am enjoying it.

  • @tiredironrepair
    @tiredironrepair Місяць тому

    All the cities and towns in the entire region resembled the mudflooded old world. From Victoria B.C. to Olympia Washington. Golf courses and military bases were established on the most glorious places that had to be destroyed in order to sell the false history we're supposed to believe. I'm pretty sure Lewis and Clark were not the good guys his-story would have us believe.

  • @rustyholt6619
    @rustyholt6619 9 місяців тому

    when seattle became the nw port of call the economy collapsed as the speculators moved south dident recover until fort warden was bieng built

  • @Father-Freedom
    @Father-Freedom Рік тому +1

    PT, the city of dreams! So good, brother 🙏 I’m headed down to meet @old_world_florida today 🍊❤🦊

  • @barbarayork3675
    @barbarayork3675 15 днів тому

    Nice to visit. To live here? Not so much.😛

  • @seantaylor3857
    @seantaylor3857 Рік тому +3

    Hey man! Sean here I need to get u some info & pictures/art work my grampa painted of a tower in Mercer island that burned. Original newspaper articles on back of painting my folks have In another state. Not sure how to get an email or #. I live in snohomish

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +1

      That would be amazing. I'd love to have a look. Email me at marvelousoldworld@gmail.com

  • @rustyholt6619
    @rustyholt6619 9 місяців тому

    that steel window was probibly a coal shute

  • @RonCobb-co6dr
    @RonCobb-co6dr 4 місяці тому +1

    Isn't it sad that the most extravagant, and ornate structures that raised the most eyebrows were always involved in those horrific fires that by now, every one should have figured out that they were set, and alot of times there just happened to be problems with the water system and so they HAD TO pull out the explosives and blast other unbelievable structures to pieces in order to control the fire. It's the same dam story every where you go. And all of these structures are built in 1 to 2 years. Which would have been impossible for the labor force and the infrastructure at the time. Olympia has a couple of buildings that fit the same narrative too. And no matter how much we shove them in the faces of the PTB, we will be ignored, just like 9-11 ... so if you're thinking about changing the history books in your life time, 😂😂😂 good luck 🎉.

  • @dougrennpferd904
    @dougrennpferd904 Рік тому

    just a thought : is it possible building materials were shipped in , to be seen from the cargo lists of steamers ? clutching at straws I guess ...

  • @jorgebeyaz2981
    @jorgebeyaz2981 Рік тому

    Steampunk town

  • @ZRanchLady
    @ZRanchLady Рік тому +1

    The historical narrative is "off" because there's a hidden history of the world that speaks to why these old building have 'lost' their upper turrets and towers. I've only just discovered this because I love historical architecture research. But I don't know much yet, only that the towers on the old brick & stone buildings were originally designed to pick up energy from the "ethers" as power sources. What they powered I have yet to discover....but I think it has something to do with vibrational frequency. We've been lied to about just about everything! Your suspicions aren't too far off base!!

  • @mozfonky
    @mozfonky Рік тому

    Interesting and all, very. But.., I just don't think they'd be able to conceal "ruins" of old very easily. Some inconsistencies for sure but they may be very explainable. Like I've said, if the Indians didn't say anything about these buildings, they weren't there.

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +2

      Hidden in plain site. Stick around for Part 2 where things will really get interesting. As for the "Indian Question"--generations of merciless removal, relocation and reeducation, then ask the elders what they know and are willing to reveal to the outside world.

    • @mozfonky
      @mozfonky Рік тому +1

      @@MarvelousOldWorld i'm indian, i know and knew elders, they have some stories, none include these sorts of buildings. Again, interesting, but only from an entertainment point of view.

    • @MarvelousOldWorld
      @MarvelousOldWorld  Рік тому +1

      @@mozfonky Thanks for sharing this. We have a mystery then, as the history we have been given doesn't add up. May I ask if you are from one of the local tribes in this area?

    • @mozfonky
      @mozfonky Рік тому +1

      @@MarvelousOldWorld I'm not but I know plenty who are, I'm sure if I ask about it, they'll just think, "what a strange question".

    • @jkm3297
      @jkm3297 Рік тому

      maybe the Indians built them and they weren't at all like the people depicted by his story. You don't normally get the true story of a genocided people by the ones who did the horrid deed