The moms too, although they aren’t any saint. Especially Christi and Kelly. The only 100% clean record one is Holly. The rest of them played into the drama and the trauma, some of them even critiqued the girls, and brought marriages and divorces into their arguments, even when that wasn’t in the production’s storyline.
“the moms are not any better when it comes to body-shamming” girly, that foul woman harassed their children mentally by body-shamming she DESERVES to taste her own medicine. im all about kindness and such but evil being like abby (mind you she doesn’t regret doing all these up till now) deserves all horrible things she got herself in. it’s called consequence.
Fun fact: part of Kelly’s lawsuit against Abby was how she told nia she didn’t want a tootie on her team. To cover it up.. it was cut out. The girls were all hugging Nia and crying . The producers gave them all iPads to excuse this situation. This is called the “iPad situation “ (this is a racist term. Tootie was the only black character on an 80’s show)
Well, they're not on and shows up with big fat Bobby and I love her as a child I'm in love with seriously. I don't know, my brother cheated us, so please don't know what I'm saying. I'm just call me, but you have a big c***, buddy. Shaming little girls that just makes you ugly and fat. Hopefully a little more okay? Shaming little girls is not okay and I think everybody that wants to show and needs to stop watching It. Because it's just raising money for doing that for the little girls.😊❤
@@lexiefrIf you watched the video you would have known that she did a LOT of stuff even behind the cameras. Yes, the producers have made them do stuff for views, money, but it's been made clear that Abby is not a good person.
The people blaming the parents more than Abby are crazy. Yes, maybe sometimes the parents made it worse for the kids but it was Abby, that was abusing the kids and putting favoritism. It's also the producer's fault, since they directed the show and made Abby say some things but Abby still chose to say it and go too far. If you say it was the parents' fault for keeping their kids out there, they signed a contract with the show which means that they can't leave/very hard to leave.
@@Alyssa-pj8hlthey were terribly binded into their contracts especially the ogs and each of them tried to leave, even Melissa tried to officially leave in season 2 or 3. Every time they tried to leave the producers would threaten them with suing them or even take their kids. They had such a huge hand in the storylines and the drama. The production and Abby are the abusers of the show.
@@Alyssa-pj8hl They not only had the contracts with the producers they also had contracts with Abby especially in the early years. For season 4 Kelly and Christi didn't re-sign the contract to be with the ALDC and that wasn't enough to get them off the show (didn't want to sign that if they left during the competition season they would have to pay Abby $100,000 and also agree that the girls wouldn't gain more than 10 pounds), that is why Abby amped up how horrible she was to them in season 4, she knew that they couldn't do anything about it and if she had to have them there when she didn't want them then she could take it out on them. Christi has said that when Abby said that on the show she wasn't kidding and they had been looking at changing studios before the show started but there was something that if you were a title holder you had to do the next season with them (the way that it has been said I'm not clear if that is an Abby or a competition thing) and Chloe had won a title at the end of the previous season.
Kendall Vertes (Jill's daughter) said it herself that the girls were 8-11 years old and Abby would call them: "fat, skinny, washed up, ugly" etc. The amount of therapy the girls got after the show ended shows how much Abby's words and actions affected them. They also shared that the whole scripted drama between the moms and Abby sometimes turned into serious arguments and fights, the girls were locked up in the bathrooms or dressing rooms and waited for their mothers to pick them up and go home.
Miss girl clearly hasnt seen her self in the mirror if she has the audacity to body shame literal children but goddamn I hope these children are in a better place now and I hope abby is srsly rotting out here for all she did to these girls
Holly was definitely my favorite mom. That episode where Abby thinks she's insulting Nia by calling her a mini-me of her mom was nuts. I would be proud if Holly were my mom.
I also feel like it was a little bit of the moms fault as well because they knew what was happening to those poor girls they could have gone somewhere else
and before anyone says that they were locked under contracts. They were. But they only lasted until Season 6, with an OPTION to have it extended. This is why Melissa leaves, but the rest of the moms could've aswell, but they ACTIVELY chose to sign it and continue, if im correct.
That isn't ok and also during the dance of Rosa Parks at the end Brooke actually STEPPED on Nia and my mouth was on the ground. 1 that's was not ok and I would be offended if I was Nia.
@@taylorssversion Ikr that's the choreography that Abby, Gianna or maybe even the producers chose. Blaming Brooke doesn't do anything and that move was supposed to indicate the racism that black people face.
At what point does this become child abuse? This is emotional abuse at the very least! Why would parents subject their kids to this kind of trauma? Money? Hell no!
The original moms were tricked into singing a six season contract. It was originally supposed to be a documentary, but the producers changed it. The moms were always threatened by producers if they didn’t comply or make enough drama
I feel bad for all of the girls. No one should be getting body shamed because of their weight. That is just messed up. Abby has given all the girls trauma and mental issues.
Yeah a lot of these girls took horrible hits from Abby like this was disgusting and I did not blame any of the mom going off on Abby or fighting her because she asked for it. The way Abby went in on these girls who was clearly young and did not fully know who they were yet. Also how the hell Abby going to talk shit about these girls when she was ugly the whole time with that fucked up attitude. As well as Nia to always for the most part got it the worse specially with her weight and I was like really bitch she got thick legs from dancing all the time and plus she is black most of us got thick legs even when skinny.
i’ve gone to the aldc a few times since it closed and it’s SO depressing and honestly creepy. it’s run down and looks abandoned and probably much better reflects the reality of its past. i also drive past abby’s house every time i go to my boyfriend’s, it’s so weird to live in the same town where they all grew up knowing it could’ve been me, i don’t need more trauma 🥴🫠
@@froggo1485yeah they all quit like one or two carried on with their career. The others quit Abby changed their thoughts on dance forever most of them hate mental health issues
@@froggo1485Most of them actually dance minus two of them. None of them dance professionally, but they still dance and two of them are on dance teams in college
Its called projecting. Abby definitely was projecting her insecurities on the girls when she attacked them over their weight. She should be the last one to talk.
The “producer’s” of that show are truly evil. I’m not giving passes to the mother’s who allowed their children the abuse of Abby, but I’ve seen actual production notes about that show-Those producer’s…Reprehensible 🤮.
The show has no choice to be there, they would’ve been sued if they left but when the show started it wasn’t even supposed to be called dance moms it was supposed to be a documentary for 6 episodes.
Do you guys remember when she made them dress up in bad costume like electricity. And she even said it was one of her favorite dances, they were 8-9 or so. Then she gets disgusted because 15-17 year olds were doing a dance that was more appropriate for their age at the end of season 7. Like seriously Abby, your encouraging such bad behavior. She would rather have kids that are still in elementary school, publicly embarrass themselves with an inappropriate dance, then let girls that are plenty of age do a dance that is fit for them. Unbelievable.
I can’t believe her, and she literally said you can’t even cry cry in a room, or else they’re going to be kicked out like that is so messed up. I think Abby should be fired from her job for criticizing kids for years.
Those women deserved much better than that for all their hard work, effort and responsibilities. They're all beautiful and really deserve to achieve their dreams as dancers and models saying "Screw you Abby, see us shine! We are proud and We love our audiences!"
Can we talk about Christi’s comment to Patsy in Season 2 when Patsy first walked in? Can we talk about Melissa going from one husband to the next? Can we talk about how Jill got mad every time Nia got a solo? Bro I could write a entire book about the show and what I think of it. I watched every single episode, and BTS footage I could find - let me tell you that Kelly, Holly, and the good moms deserves justice.
The actual reason Christi left is because the Producers actually forced Christi (chloe's mum) to sign a contract that Chloe could not gain any more weight but they didnt so thats the reason they left. Also, on chloes birthday Abby told her to get a hair tie and fix her hair leading her to cry! ON HER BIRTHDAY....
All the girls went through unimaginable sh*t. It is insane that she has no shame. Chloe was quiet and she didn’t get the decency she longed for, maddie was a role model to all of them, nia worked to hard. Remember she said to nia that her braids weighed her down? Remember she made maddie do two dances and asked why wasn’t she happy if she was a winner? Remember she always called Chloe “not good enough”? She doesn’t stop. They were wrong to make comments on Abby’s weight. This is genuinely messed up. Genuinely. They always wore booty shorts, short crop tops, fishnets. And unnecessary racist comments to nia.
I really don t care what people woud tell about that Kelly situation. Because Kelly was right and not only that Kelly was actually her ex student so basiclly they knew eachother for years. And that Abby had the audacity to hate and harrases Pagie and tell Brooke that she is not good enough. And actually replace her first for Payton who only did was whine all the time and never won compotitions unlike Brooke who is two timed national champion it s beyond disgusting.
Last year I got to meet GiaNina. She was so sweet it almost made me tear up because I thought about all the things she went through on the show. All the girls are very strong to have put up with all that because I certainly couldn’t
My best friend doesn't know that Abby actually traumatized these girls, she watches the show and thinks it's all staged and that Abby is actually a good person, this crap is the truth.
Those poor girls were traumatised on that show, I don’t blame Maddie for saying she doesn’t remember her time on the show, she just blocked out all the trauma from that show, Abby took pleasure in making kids cry
And honestly, her saying this is my teaching method is absolutely ridiculous. It’s like saying hitting my kid is the way I parent which can cause a lot of trauma and issues in the future or in the present. This is actually ridiculous.
Those women are strong and really have the potential to overcome their trauma and become the beauty queens they really want to be. P.S. aren't we all beautiful in our own unique ways? Yes we are. 💖🤭☺️
Lol I love how all the mothers are going nuts on Abbey when they literally could have pulled their daughters out at any time, but they chose to keep them there for their 15 minutes, not talking about the kids 15 minutes either. Mothers are possibly worse because Abbey didn’t have children, she didn’t care… But the mothers subjected their own children to this ridicule.
We blacks are beautiful and the black girls on the show are pretty and they need no one's validation. I wonder how traumatic it would be for these children and I hope they take care of their mental health and be confident in their skin and body. It's not good for adults to talk crap about children's skin tone and worse body shaming them. This is such a shame to Abby Lee Ziegler
0:54 Ava didn’t get kicked out because she was too tall, she got kicked out because the last competition or two I can’t remember, she was kicked out but without the verbal words so her mom decided to bring her back to the studio
From being racist or being horrible about there size I can’t even explain this those girls went through so much trauma I mean the amount of therapy they probably went through is horrible I mean and this isn’t even all of it She better being paying for therapy because I think the therapists would need therapy after hearing what happend
Some of these comments are outrageous !! asking " why didn't they leave much sooner when they were disrespected ?? If that was my child I would've left . " or " these mother's are the reason why their OWN children have traumas . " Sorry luvs but there's a reason why they didn't leave early , they wanted their children to continue their dream with Abby Lee Miller !! But at the same time they signed a contract saying "If fault by leaving , there will be a $1,000 fund to pay before existing ." And at this moment , I don't think these mom's had that enough money to pay off that debt , earlier on those shows Christi also mentioned that she wishes to leave but she didn't have any money to pay this contract off as she left though , she had to stay on that contract for 2 whole years because she didn't pay off the rest of her debt . Holly also mentioned they were forced to quit their jobs in order to stay with their daughters , that was the reason why they didn't have any money nor a penny to pay off this contract .
“No you’re too tall!” Actually hit hard for me… I’ve been tall my whole life and currently 5’6 at 12. I’ve been insulted over my height, given weird looks just for being a kid. This also caused me to want to be short half my life. But I finally learned to love myself for it.❤
i'm five feet tall... trust me being taller is better ! you can easily reach things and dont have to bother ppl 24/7 to get something off a shelf for you. happens all the time to me at work :( i feel bad for annoying my coworkers.
What is mad is short guys feel the same tall girls. Society and people can be very nasty. Just don't grow up and project onto other people. Good decent people wont care or have the need to make you feel bad.
It’s so sad that the girls have to go through all that all for money and fame and those damn producers it’s crazy I feel like outta all the moms Christi and holly were the best moms who actually took care not only their own girls but the other girls too
(it is wrong either way but) it’s funny how abby body shamed these girls while she herself is plus sized. it would be equally wrong if abby was any other shape or size but it’s even more ironic because of this. this woman is so narcissistic it’s unreal. i feel extremely sorry for all these girls :( who knows how many of them are suffering from eating disorders because of abby.
If I were a mom I would never put my daughter through something like this for YEARS... all just for a check? abby was terrible but these mothers are not saints!
It wasn’t for money. It was because they were binded to a contract that would literally threaten to not only sue them, but to take their daughters away as well. Nobody said they were saints, because they did bodyshame Abby when there are other things to shame her about, but that isn’t the reason why they aren’t good people. You sound VERY ignorant
They weren’t getting paid..? Literally they had a contract signed and if they tried to leave they would get sued. Abby is all the trouble here…not the moms.
@@_axalotlbut was there a contract for each season, or just one contract that said that they must be on the show for the whole duration of the show (no matter how long it will last)?
@@STACEYXRENEE Not really. She mainly treated her differantly because she was no good for the team (atleast what i know) and while being angry she used her skin as an insult.
I would never let any of my grandchildren or great grandchildren be subjected to this kind of abuse. I had to stop watching the show. I couldn’t take the treatment of any of the girls but especially Nia. She was horrible to her absolutely disgusting.
Wait, the tall girl from Tall Girl was on Dance moms?! I never knew about this! That's really satisfying, the thing she was bullied for gave her a movie that people all around the world watched!
It's really tough seeing those young girls going through such a hard time 😔. My main worry is for Maddie, she's got so much pressure on her to be perfect and she was so young 😞. I hope she's okay now 🙏.
I hate how Disney Plus has Dance Moms on its platform because that show is not good it's terrible it's caused many people to be broken by it even if you don't know that they edited the audio to make abby look better in the eyes of the public you can still tell that this show is controversial for a reason angry at how Disney has it on their platform
They had contracts and they would get sued if they tried to break the contract, and they even threatened to take their kid away from them. Stop blaming people who were binded to contracts over a racist abuser
Oh my goodness I have heard people saying Abby lee killer is rude, racist and lots of more things but I would’ve never guessed she tortured all these young children
I do think that Abby changed a bit. But she can never take back the trauma she’s given to those poor girls. I think it’s really messed up how she didn’t even apologize properly. No child deserves to be treated that way
I will never allow my daughter to do this type of "hobby" with some woman putting my kids down, I'd explode and abby is totally unacceptable as a teacher and as a human. I'm surprised she's not been sued.
But the thing is, the parents signed a contract with the show and so it's difficult to leave. So how is it the parents fault since they didn't know Abby was so reckless?
It might be, because Abby said she might go toe to toe with the older girls if they get a bit out of line or make a mistake. I can’t believe anyone wants to put their children in the predicament as Abby .
Ok. The girls and moms of the new season better not complain, I wouldn't feel bad for them because by now, everybody should know how toxic Abby and that show was. I can't believe people would still deal with Abby after everything that happened over the years.
Someone watched MackZBoss’s videos and just lifted a few facts from her videos and put them together to make this mess of a video. The issues with Dance Mom’s are a LOT deeper than just what Abby said and did. The influence the producers had is just as vile and sickening. Abby is by no means innocent and I am not sticking up for her, she should never have gotten to work with children. But the fact that grown adults ALLOWED this is even more disgusting. The overall tone for this video gives off a “yeah this was bad, but like whatever guyssss. I’m just glad it didn’t happen to me. Love you!” No. Leave these topics to people that are respectful of them. And don’t take work from smaller content creators who make MUCH better content in a more respectable and sensitive way.
@@Littlemoonsdaycre Apparently they signed the contract without a lawyer present or anyone to help them understand what they were getting involved in. But still, the contracts allowing the producers so much freedom and no exit close is still horrible.
I always felt bad for the girls because let’s be real Abby only cared about Maddy. Nothing the other girls did was right basically causing them low self esteem. She made the other girls always be compared to Maddy. Like dang the other girls was good at dancing too but not to Abby.
Well, holly did try to not get the kids involved. When Kelly and Abby started physically fighting, Holly yelled for the girls to get out of the room so they didn’t have to witness them fighting.
To be honest,nia is a survivor Even if Abby was being mean to her and body shaming her she keep going she was there until season seven she didn’t even make any breaks.
I can’t believe this occurred at ALL‼️ AS a parent. Your duty is to protect DAUGHTERS/ CHILDREN AGAINST THE EXACT SITUATION IN LIFE ‼️ I live by this quote . WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON SAYS MORE ABOUT YOU ,THAN THE PERSON‼️
You obviously don’t know what Maddie went through, I could talk about it for days. I could write a whole book of each episode. That is how much I know about the show. Maddie also got pressured and traumatized. Maddie has even admitted it herself. Don’t even get me started on Sia, she went from bozo Abby to pe*o Sia.
@@RealJoseph123This. People think that Maddie had a it easy bc she was the favorite. Imagine being treated the way she was at eight years old and don’t even get me started on Sia. I stand by the fact that if Sia was a man, they would have called her out a long time ago.
Maddie was just as traumatized as those other girls. I fucking hate it that people think Maddie had it easier just because she was Abby’s favorite. She was pressured and traumatized by Abby, and then she was even more traumatized even outside of Dance Moms. She was groomed and manipulated by Sia, and people constantly ignore it because Maddie and Sia are both women
There was another black girl on dance moms, but she treated her differently because I think she was younger. Her name was Aza tell you spell her name but she treated her like she was not black like she treated her perfectly. She never disrespected her and I saw that I thought that’s how she treated all the girls with Asia and she did it. OK I spelled it correctly, but yeah. 14:07
Imagine the amount of trauma the girls have. Getting criticized publicly hurts a lot...
The moms too, although they aren’t any saint. Especially Christi and Kelly. The only 100% clean record one is Holly. The rest of them played into the drama and the trauma, some of them even critiqued the girls, and brought marriages and divorces into their arguments, even when that wasn’t in the production’s storyline.
@@RealJoseph123 I agreed. Some people can be so cruel
@@rxainydayz And pshychopatic
Fr :(
Chloe barley rembers the time on the show
“the moms are not any better when it comes to body-shamming” girly, that foul woman harassed their children mentally by body-shamming she DESERVES to taste her own medicine. im all about kindness and such but evil being like abby (mind you she doesn’t regret doing all these up till now) deserves all horrible things she got herself in. it’s called consequence.
she got cancer, nobody deserves cancer. i feel so bad for abby because she clearly deserved something worse
@@UnicornBySprinkleafter what she’s done to these kids and so many before them that’s karma.
I was just finna comment that
Fr
@@bathroomshoes karma doesnt exist
Fun fact: part of Kelly’s lawsuit against Abby was how she told nia she didn’t want a tootie on her team. To cover it up.. it was cut out. The girls were all hugging Nia and crying . The producers gave them all iPads to excuse this situation. This is called the “iPad situation “
(this is a racist term. Tootie was the only black character on an 80’s show)
Was it an accusation or was it true, because I get that Abby was so rude but the lawsuit got dismissed so it couldn’t of been true, right?
Was it an accusation or was it true, because I get that Abby was so rude but the lawsuit got dismissed so it couldn’t of been true, right?
@@iconiclukiethe lawsuit was dismissed due to other reasons. That situation is infact true.. both have spoke about it on their podcast
@@iconiclukieIt was true... Abby is fully disgusting and frankly so are the parents.
None of these ppl cared about the kids.
Well, they're not on and shows up with big fat Bobby and I love her as a child I'm in love with seriously. I don't know, my brother cheated us, so please don't know what I'm saying. I'm just call me, but you have a big c***, buddy. Shaming little girls that just makes you ugly and fat. Hopefully a little more okay? Shaming little girls is not okay and I think everybody that wants to show and needs to stop watching It. Because it's just raising money for doing that for the little girls.😊❤
She's so proud about abusing them girls and who knows how many of them are suffering from eating disorders because of her.
She isn't proud. The producers made her like that so they could get more money.
@@lexiefrIf you watched the video you would have known that she did a LOT of stuff even behind the cameras. Yes, the producers have made them do stuff for views, money, but it's been made clear that Abby is not a good person.
@@lexiefrShe was like that before the shoq.
@lexiefr she was literally sent to jail for 8 months, but got out early because she developed spine cancer
She’s not proud. Stfu
The people blaming the parents more than Abby are crazy. Yes, maybe sometimes the parents made it worse for the kids but it was Abby, that was abusing the kids and putting favoritism. It's also the producer's fault, since they directed the show and made Abby say some things but Abby still chose to say it and go too far. If you say it was the parents' fault for keeping their kids out there, they signed a contract with the show which means that they can't leave/very hard to leave.
11:08 abby wtf
but im confused on why the parents didn't just leave?
@@Alyssa-pj8hlthey were terribly binded into their contracts especially the ogs and each of them tried to leave, even Melissa tried to officially leave in season 2 or 3. Every time they tried to leave the producers would threaten them with suing them or even take their kids. They had such a huge hand in the storylines and the drama. The production and Abby are the abusers of the show.
@@Alyssa-pj8hl They not only had the contracts with the producers they also had contracts with Abby especially in the early years. For season 4 Kelly and Christi didn't re-sign the contract to be with the ALDC and that wasn't enough to get them off the show (didn't want to sign that if they left during the competition season they would have to pay Abby $100,000 and also agree that the girls wouldn't gain more than 10 pounds), that is why Abby amped up how horrible she was to them in season 4, she knew that they couldn't do anything about it and if she had to have them there when she didn't want them then she could take it out on them. Christi has said that when Abby said that on the show she wasn't kidding and they had been looking at changing studios before the show started but there was something that if you were a title holder you had to do the next season with them (the way that it has been said I'm not clear if that is an Abby or a competition thing) and Chloe had won a title at the end of the previous season.
@@Alyssa-pj8hlbecause they had contracts, and if they tried to leave on their own, they’d be sued
Kendall Vertes (Jill's daughter) said it herself that the girls were 8-11 years old and Abby would call them: "fat, skinny, washed up, ugly" etc. The amount of therapy the girls got after the show ended shows how much Abby's words and actions affected them. They also shared that the whole scripted drama between the moms and Abby sometimes turned into serious arguments and fights, the girls were locked up in the bathrooms or dressing rooms and waited for their mothers to pick them up and go home.
Miss girl clearly hasnt seen her self in the mirror if she has the audacity to body shame literal children but goddamn I hope these children are in a better place now and I hope abby is srsly rotting out here for all she did to these girls
You can tell holly really cares about all the girls because she said “girls out the room” and holly could of say “Nia get out the room
holly was a principal she just went into autopilot.
@@bathroomshoesshe still desrve props
Holly was the best mom on the show
And then maddie wasn't leaving so she made sure to get maddie out of the room and to a safe space in the hall
EDIT: GRAMMAR
Holly was definitely my favorite mom. That episode where Abby thinks she's insulting Nia by calling her a mini-me of her mom was nuts. I would be proud if Holly were my mom.
honestly i feel bad for the girls who got trauma from abby..
I also feel like it was a little bit of the moms fault as well because they knew what was happening to those poor girls they could have gone somewhere else
Yes! I feel bad for them too! But I believe they have the strength and intelligence to know Abby is wrong and they can overcome their trauma.
and before anyone says that they were locked under contracts. They were. But they only lasted until Season 6, with an OPTION to have it extended. This is why Melissa leaves, but the rest of the moms could've aswell, but they ACTIVELY chose to sign it and continue, if im correct.
The mothers could have sued Abby for emotional trauma and child abuse?
@@JosephineBryantYT. they tried. it didn’t work. they couldn’t leave they were stuck in contracts.
“My little Kendall would be perfect for the role of Rosa parks” that line still gets me
WHAT
That isn't ok and also during the dance of Rosa Parks at the end Brooke actually STEPPED on Nia and my mouth was on the ground. 1 that's was not ok and I would be offended if I was Nia.
@@luciliaalerte9080 …
that’s the choreography, the girls didn’t have a say in it so don’t hate on brooke for smth that abby did
@@taylorssversion Ikr that's the choreography that Abby, Gianna or maybe even the producers chose. Blaming Brooke doesn't do anything and that move was supposed to indicate the racism that black people face.
the fact that Abby is body shaming the poor girls when she weighs 100000 pounds…
Exactly
She puts Java the hut to shame
LOL!!!!@@thiccredgyal3404
Ok I don’t think we should defend Abby but we shouldn’t fat shame her.yes I KNOW she fat shamed but we shouldn’t fight fire with fire
@@SimplyAnyais2swag4youshe could use fire to burn her fat lol
At what point does this become child abuse? This is emotional abuse at the very least! Why would parents subject their kids to this kind of trauma? Money? Hell no!
they signed a contract to be with the aldc.
@@viviennemorgan7217 ok... but it's still emotional abuse.
@@mrdiala not just emotional abuse, just truama and physical abuse
@@viviennemorgan7217 it is emotional abuse
The original moms were tricked into singing a six season contract. It was originally supposed to be a documentary, but the producers changed it. The moms were always threatened by producers if they didn’t comply or make enough drama
I feel bad for all of the girls. No one should be getting body shamed because of their weight. That is just messed up. Abby has given all the girls trauma and mental issues.
True no one should have to worry about their body
Yeah a lot of these girls took horrible hits from Abby like this was disgusting and I did not blame any of the mom going off on Abby or fighting her because she asked for it. The way Abby went in on these girls who was clearly young and did not fully know who they were yet. Also how the hell Abby going to talk shit about these girls when she was ugly the whole time with that fucked up attitude. As well as Nia to always for the most part got it the worse specially with her weight and I was like really bitch she got thick legs from dancing all the time and plus she is black most of us got thick legs even when skinny.
i’ve gone to the aldc a few times since it closed and it’s SO depressing and honestly creepy. it’s run down and looks abandoned and probably much better reflects the reality of its past. i also drive past abby’s house every time i go to my boyfriend’s, it’s so weird to live in the same town where they all grew up knowing it could’ve been me, i don’t need more trauma 🥴🫠
The building got sold, and whoever brought the building didn’t even do much to it yet.
The are building stuff around it and stuff so I think your lying ....
@@3pearl812you make no sense
@@RealJoseph123the studio turned into a food court
@@3pearl812 Youre wrong my guy
I feel bad for all the girls and I hope they are getting better treatment from all their dance teachers now
They are older now and most of them quit doing dance
@@froggo1485yeah they all quit like one or two carried on with their career. The others quit Abby changed their thoughts on dance forever most of them hate mental health issues
@@Aldc-EDITZ. yea exactly
@@froggo1485Most of them actually dance minus two of them. None of them dance professionally, but they still dance and two of them are on dance teams in college
brooke smiling in the back while holly was yelling at abby was everything:
so was Maddie lmao
She's freaking commenting on their bodies like has she seen herself wtf
Ikr like that one who says it is the one that is
Its called projecting. Abby definitely was projecting her insecurities on the girls when she attacked them over their weight.
She should be the last one to talk.
And she's openly racist too like wtf singling out nia....if dance moms aired around this time the show would get cancelled on the first episode 💀
Abby can not be body-shaming, I’m surprised she didn’t leave a dent in the floor…
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NAUR💀💀💀
IKR!!
NO YOU DID NOT 😭
I CANT RIGHT NOW😭
IM ROLLING😭
i wouldn't say that Abby getting cancer and becoming a paraplegic was karma, but it totally is.
You better believe it 😂
i'm not saying she deserved it, i'm saying god's timing is ✨always righttttt✨
The “producer’s” of that show are truly evil. I’m not giving passes to the mother’s who allowed their children the abuse of Abby, but I’ve seen actual production notes about that show-Those producer’s…Reprehensible 🤮.
The show has no choice to be there, they would’ve been sued if they left but when the show started it wasn’t even supposed to be called dance moms it was supposed to be a documentary for 6 episodes.
They had no choice. They were binded to a contract and would get sued if they tried to leave.
Choose your hard.
Suing me and I have freedom from evil is better than being bound by their wicked exploitation.
Im glad Nia had Holly as a support. Ain't no way she'd have made it through otherwise.
Those girls didn't deserve any of that.. they're all so beautiful the way they always were. Horrible adult
Adults . Plural. Why did the mothers keep them there facing this ridicule? Because they loved the spotlight? Yeah, mothers are way worse than Abbey.
Do you guys remember when she made them dress up in bad costume like electricity. And she even said it was one of her favorite dances, they were 8-9 or so. Then she gets disgusted because 15-17 year olds were doing a dance that was more appropriate for their age at the end of season 7. Like seriously Abby, your encouraging such bad behavior. She would rather have kids that are still in elementary school, publicly embarrass themselves with an inappropriate dance, then let girls that are plenty of age do a dance that is fit for them. Unbelievable.
I can’t believe
her, and she literally said you can’t even cry cry in a room, or else they’re going to be kicked out like that is so messed up. I think Abby should be fired from her job for criticizing kids for years.
The perfect defination of a narcissist Karen.
As a human we don’t claim Abby nor do any other species we all had a meetings and every there voted for her to leave
@@VogueVistaYT yesss so true
Those women deserved much better than that for all their hard work, effort and responsibilities. They're all beautiful and really deserve to achieve their dreams as dancers and models saying "Screw you Abby, see us shine! We are proud and We love our audiences!"
When Melissa and Christi were fighting about Maddie’s win, everybody comforted Maddie but nobody grabbed McKenzie when she look so horrified.
Can we talk about Christi’s comment to Patsy in Season 2 when Patsy first walked in? Can we talk about Melissa going from one husband to the next? Can we talk about how Jill got mad every time Nia got a solo? Bro I could write a entire book about the show and what I think of it. I watched every single episode, and BTS footage I could find - let me tell you that Kelly, Holly, and the good moms deserves justice.
Not to mention, she called Chloe a sneak and a snake smh🤦♀️
she also accused chole of sneaking out the dance studio to kiss boys SHE WAS 11 i don’t remember what episode
And people say that It’s just “tuff love”.. racism, body shaming, and being rude IS NOT TUFF LOVE.
Do you mean “tough love”??? Sorry no offense but you know racism and body shaming but you don’t know tough love???
The actual reason Christi left is because the Producers actually forced Christi (chloe's mum) to sign a contract that Chloe could not gain any more weight but they didnt so thats the reason they left. Also, on chloes birthday Abby told her to get a hair tie and fix her hair leading her to cry! ON HER BIRTHDAY....
All the girls went through unimaginable sh*t. It is insane that she has no shame. Chloe was quiet and she didn’t get the decency she longed for, maddie was a role model to all of them, nia worked to hard. Remember she said to nia that her braids weighed her down? Remember she made maddie do two dances and asked why wasn’t she happy if she was a winner? Remember she always called Chloe “not good enough”? She doesn’t stop. They were wrong to make comments on Abby’s weight. This is genuinely messed up. Genuinely. They always wore booty shorts, short crop tops, fishnets. And unnecessary racist comments to nia.
Love how abby is body shaming them when she,s literally the heaviest.
Not to mention her obsession with Maddie. By season 5, it became disturbing honestly
If I was Presley I’d say “shut up your thighs don’t even work”
Now, I can see teaching them how to dance and how to keep their bodies healthy but this is absolutely terrible. They deserved much better.
I really don t care what people woud tell about that Kelly situation. Because Kelly was right and not only that Kelly was actually her ex student so basiclly they knew eachother for years. And that Abby had the audacity to hate and harrases Pagie and tell Brooke that she is not good enough. And actually replace her first for Payton who only did was whine all the time and never won compotitions unlike Brooke who is two timed national champion it s beyond disgusting.
Last year I got to meet GiaNina. She was so sweet it almost made me tear up because I thought about all the things she went through on the show. All the girls are very strong to have put up with all that because I certainly couldn’t
This is all Abby’s fault! She ruined those innocent girls, is she in prison yet?
She is not.
She was a freaking child abuser and isn’t child abuse illegal (this is why I hate reality shows)
She was in prison before.
@@CXP3D The producers are rolling in money.
she was in prison for 5 years (2016-2020) for tax fraud and stealing money from the government. Christi actually called this out on the bus S4.
The fact abby can talk ab weight when she's a literal truck. She's projecting her insecurities onto them.
My best friend doesn't know that Abby actually traumatized these girls, she watches the show and thinks it's all staged and that Abby is actually a good person, this crap is the truth.
convince her she ain’t!!
Oh sweetie abby isn't nice person
My friend thinks it’s a real dance class 💀
i’m glad we’re finally speaking up about this
Those poor girls were traumatised on that show, I don’t blame Maddie for saying she doesn’t remember her time on the show, she just blocked out all the trauma from that show, Abby took pleasure in making kids cry
And honestly, her saying this is my teaching method is absolutely ridiculous. It’s like saying hitting my kid is the way I parent which can cause a lot of trauma and issues in the future or in the present. This is actually ridiculous.
Those women are strong and really have the potential to overcome their trauma and become the beauty queens they really want to be. P.S. aren't we all beautiful in our own unique ways? Yes we are. 💖🤭☺️
Lol I love how all the mothers are going nuts on Abbey when they literally could have pulled their daughters out at any time, but they chose to keep them there for their 15 minutes, not talking about the kids 15 minutes either. Mothers are possibly worse because Abbey didn’t have children, she didn’t care… But the mothers subjected their own children to this ridicule.
We blacks are beautiful and the black girls on the show are pretty and they need no one's validation. I wonder how traumatic it would be for these children and I hope they take care of their mental health and be confident in their skin and body. It's not good for adults to talk crap about children's skin tone and worse body shaming them. This is such a shame to Abby Lee Ziegler
0:54 Ava didn’t get kicked out because she was too tall, she got kicked out because the last competition or two I can’t remember, she was kicked out but without the verbal words so her mom decided to bring her back to the studio
Here before this blows up
do not hate on the moms they didn’t have a choice. they wanted to leave but they couldn’t or they would be sued into oblivion.
The queen has officially posted 💅💅💅💅✨✨✨✨
Jesus, abby is sick I’ve always wanted to be on dance moms but after watching this video, I’m truly happy that I can’t dance.
Same
IM really glad you made a good long video about this,it isn't talked about as much as it should be...
From being racist or being horrible about there size I can’t even explain this those girls went through so much trauma I mean the amount of therapy they probably went through is horrible I mean and this isn’t even all of it She better being paying for therapy because I think the therapists would need therapy after hearing what happend
Some of these comments are outrageous !! asking " why didn't they leave much sooner when they were disrespected ?? If that was my child I would've left . " or " these mother's are the reason why their OWN children have traumas . " Sorry luvs but there's a reason why they didn't leave early , they wanted their children to continue their dream with Abby Lee Miller !! But at the same time they signed a contract saying "If fault by leaving , there will be a $1,000 fund to pay before existing ." And at this moment , I don't think these mom's had that enough money to pay off that debt , earlier on those shows Christi also mentioned that she wishes to leave but she didn't have any money to pay this contract off as she left though , she had to stay on that contract for 2 whole years because she didn't pay off the rest of her debt . Holly also mentioned they were forced to quit their jobs in order to stay with their daughters , that was the reason why they didn't have any money nor a penny to pay off this contract .
“No you’re too tall!” Actually hit hard for me… I’ve been tall my whole life and currently 5’6 at 12. I’ve been insulted over my height, given weird looks just for being a kid. This also caused me to want to be short half my life. But I finally learned to love myself for it.❤
I’m 5,6 at 11 ❤😊
The whole tall thing hurt me too
i'm five feet tall... trust me being taller is better ! you can easily reach things and dont have to bother ppl 24/7 to get something off a shelf for you. happens all the time to me at work :( i feel bad for annoying my coworkers.
What is mad is short guys feel the same tall girls. Society and people can be very nasty. Just don't grow up and project onto other people. Good decent people wont care or have the need to make you feel bad.
i was 5’7 at 12 lol
Abby should have helped the kids and give them suggestions for dance. My mom even told me to stop watching this show
Nia is my favorite she is so kind and she dose not deserve to be treated like that 😭
Ikr 😭
Goodness, I watched most of Dance Moms and was not aware just how bad it actually was even though it was bad enough from seeing the shows 😱
Nia is treated horribly by Abby, but yet she was the first dancer out of all the girls, like Maddie
Brooke: …
It’s so sad that the girls have to go through all that all for money and fame and those damn producers it’s crazy I feel like outta all the moms Christi and holly were the best moms who actually took care not only their own girls but the other girls too
There is no way I’d let anyone abuse kids like that.
(it is wrong either way but) it’s funny how abby body shamed these girls while she herself is plus sized. it would be equally wrong if abby was any other shape or size but it’s even more ironic because of this. this woman is so narcissistic it’s unreal. i feel extremely sorry for all these girls :( who knows how many of them are suffering from eating disorders because of abby.
If I were a mom I would never put my daughter through something like this for YEARS... all just for a check? abby was terrible but these mothers are not saints!
It wasn’t for money. It was because they were binded to a contract that would literally threaten to not only sue them, but to take their daughters away as well. Nobody said they were saints, because they did bodyshame Abby when there are other things to shame her about, but that isn’t the reason why they aren’t good people. You sound VERY ignorant
They weren’t getting paid..? Literally they had a contract signed and if they tried to leave they would get sued. Abby is all the trouble here…not the moms.
the only black gril she loved was asia
I heard that she was tough but I had no idea she would say such mean things to them!! Wtf?!
She pinched her dancers until they bleed.
I feel so bad cause the show is so good and so are the girls but it’s just so sad cause they all went through sm just to make it good.
The fact that the mother's kept their kids on the show shows that their not better
They had signed a contract saying, if they left, the producers would sue them so they had no choice.
@@_axalotlbut was there a contract for each season, or just one contract that said that they must be on the show for the whole duration of the show (no matter how long it will last)?
So, If you look at this from this direction, Cathy was NEVER the villan in the story, abby was.
Cathy was still racist toward nicaya and her mom.
@@STACEYXRENEE Not really. She mainly treated her differantly because she was no good for the team (atleast what i know) and while being angry she used her skin as an insult.
@@midnight_yt8788 nicaya literally called her out and the morales siblings she IS RACIST
@@STACEYXRENEEyes but abby is DEFINITELY worse than cathy
@@UnicornBySprinkle I never brought up Abby, but in a nutshell you are right .
I respect Holly for not swearing not once. She was the best dance mom.
Ikr
I would never let any of my grandchildren or great grandchildren be subjected to this kind of abuse. I had to stop watching the show. I couldn’t take the treatment of any of the girls but especially Nia. She was horrible to her absolutely disgusting.
Wait, the tall girl from Tall Girl was on Dance moms?! I never knew about this! That's really satisfying, the thing she was bullied for gave her a movie that people all around the world watched!
It's really tough seeing those young girls going through such a hard time 😔. My main worry is for Maddie, she's got so much pressure on her to be perfect and she was so young 😞. I hope she's okay now 🙏.
I hate how Disney Plus has Dance Moms on its platform because that show is not good it's terrible it's caused many people to be broken by it even if you don't know that they edited the audio to make abby look better in the eyes of the public you can still tell that this show is controversial for a reason angry at how Disney has it on their platform
Yes Anna always knew you’d post this eventually
I honestly blame the mothers who watched and did nothing
they had contracts
They had contracts, the producers wouldn't let them leave for the day if they hadn't argued enough.
They had contracts, the producers and directors said that they would take their child away, and even sue them if they had bothered to step in.
They had contracts and they would get sued if they tried to break the contract, and they even threatened to take their kid away from them. Stop blaming people who were binded to contracts over a racist abuser
Why don’t you watch the show first before hating on moms?
Oh my goodness I have heard people saying Abby lee killer is rude, racist and lots of more things but I would’ve never guessed she tortured all these young children
Watch the show
Im really glad Kamryns mom got her out as soon as possible rather than letting her kid suffer
Hallelujah finally someone.😂😂
Thank god I never ended up on that show cause my mother would have went to jail behind Abby 😭
As a dancer the thing about the foot is normal having your foot tuned in is horrible things to do when dancing
I honestly thing the amount of pressure Abby has been putting on the girls is ridiculous I hate how nia is always left out
I do think that Abby changed a bit. But she can never take back the trauma she’s given to those poor girls. I think it’s really messed up how she didn’t even apologize properly. No child deserves to be treated that way
I will never allow my daughter to do this type of "hobby" with some woman putting my kids down, I'd explode and abby is totally unacceptable as a teacher and as a human. I'm surprised she's not been sued.
Imagine getting bodyshamed about your thighs,ears,or anything and it getting aired on tv which is crazy…
I blame the parents more than Abby, or anybody else for putting their kids in that situation and keeping them there
But the thing is, the parents signed a contract with the show and so it's difficult to leave. So how is it the parents fault since they didn't know Abby was so reckless?
@@ValentinaFlowersThey could’ve left after nationals, that’s BS.
@@ValentinaFlowersthey knew after. I would never put my kids through that. Fuck a contract, those are kids.
@@RealJoseph123no they could not😭😭😭 the aldc contract and show contract are TWO different things. The show lasted 6 years
@@RealJoseph123 How do you know that their contracts expire after one year?
‼️THE SHOW IS NOT ENDING!!! they are filming season 9 right now. hopefully it’s not toxic.
It might be, because Abby said she might go toe to toe with the older girls if they get a bit out of line or make a mistake. I can’t believe anyone wants to put their children in the predicament as Abby .
Ok. The girls and moms of the new season better not complain, I wouldn't feel bad for them because by now, everybody should know how toxic Abby and that show was. I can't believe people would still deal with Abby after everything that happened over the years.
@@TiaMLE-jc5zk just for clout and fame it’s sad-
I am so glad it was canceled. And I honestly think Abby should be arrested. The amount of trauma that the girls had from the show is unreasonable!
She did
@@harperlikeshellokitty YAY
There’s new seasons coming now 😢
4:27 OMG THIS IS GENUINLY TERRIBLE,I FEEL SO BAD FOR THE GIRLS
Dance Moms was so damaging to all the girls!
Me and my sisters practically grew up watching dance moms and now I know everything it's so sickening
I’m 25 minutes late but I’m happy Dance Moms is just a walking piece of hell.
me too
Someone watched MackZBoss’s videos and just lifted a few facts from her videos and put them together to make this mess of a video.
The issues with Dance Mom’s are a LOT deeper than just what Abby said and did. The influence the producers had is just as vile and sickening.
Abby is by no means innocent and I am not sticking up for her, she should never have gotten to work with children. But the fact that grown adults ALLOWED this is even more disgusting.
The overall tone for this video gives off a “yeah this was bad, but like whatever guyssss. I’m just glad it didn’t happen to me. Love you!”
No. Leave these topics to people that are respectful of them. And don’t take work from smaller content creators who make MUCH better content in a more respectable and sensitive way.
The moms tried to leave, but they would’ve been sued so they couldn’t because they signed a contract.
@@Littlemoonsdaycre Apparently they signed the contract without a lawyer present or anyone to help them understand what they were getting involved in. But still, the contracts allowing the producers so much freedom and no exit close is still horrible.
I always felt bad for the girls because let’s be real Abby only cared about Maddy. Nothing the other girls did was right basically causing them low self esteem. She made the other girls always be compared to Maddy. Like dang the other girls was good at dancing too but not to Abby.
They actually did a few dance classes in my country (Ireland) and she was absolutely horrible.
ok Abby AND the moms, the moms should be in the spotlight too, even if they got upset or yelled, they didn't do anything else
well holly did one good thing when abby and christi were fighting she said girls get out of the room and all the mothers defended their kids.
Well, holly did try to not get the kids involved. When Kelly and Abby started physically fighting, Holly yelled for the girls to get out of the room so they didn’t have to witness them fighting.
Not me getting a dance mom ad while watching this 😂😂 11:02
I’m gonna get hate for this but Abby deserves to get bullied for using a wheelchair by the girl who’s eye condition she made fun of 👀
The hilarious thing is that nia's thigh is skinnier than abby's arm 💀
To be honest,nia is a survivor Even if Abby was being mean to her and body shaming her she keep going she was there until season seven she didn’t even make any breaks.
I can’t believe this occurred at ALL‼️ AS a parent. Your duty is to protect DAUGHTERS/ CHILDREN AGAINST THE EXACT SITUATION IN LIFE ‼️
I live by this quote . WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON SAYS
MORE ABOUT YOU ,THAN THE PERSON‼️
Karma hit Abby with the lawsuit and health wise but not hard enough imo.. she was disgusting to all the girls unless u were maddie..
You obviously don’t know what Maddie went through, I could talk about it for days. I could write a whole book of each episode. That is how much I know about the show. Maddie also got pressured and traumatized. Maddie has even admitted it herself. Don’t even get me started on Sia, she went from bozo Abby to pe*o Sia.
@@RealJoseph123This. People think that Maddie had a it easy bc she was the favorite. Imagine being treated the way she was at eight years old and don’t even get me started on Sia. I stand by the fact that if Sia was a man, they would have called her out a long time ago.
@@neb.9489 Sia couldn’t walk without being jumped at least. Just saying.
Maddie was just as traumatized as those other girls. I fucking hate it that people think Maddie had it easier just because she was Abby’s favorite. She was pressured and traumatized by Abby, and then she was even more traumatized even outside of Dance Moms. She was groomed and manipulated by Sia, and people constantly ignore it because Maddie and Sia are both women
There was another black girl on dance moms, but she treated her differently because I think she was younger. Her name was Aza tell you spell her name but she treated her like she was not black like she treated her perfectly. She never disrespected her and I saw that I thought that’s how she treated all the girls with Asia and she did it. OK I spelled it correctly, but yeah. 14:07
Asia is not black she’s multiracial
@@CrystalAcheing Did I ask for your opinion?
@@MarcAltidor-n2u lol and you called her black of which she is not. So stfu bookie. And it’s a free comment section so I can say wtf I want. Go sym.
@@MarcAltidor-n2u "Wonyoung is not Chinese, she is korean." is that an opinion??? no