If you crank the presence on the 6505 (8.5) and lower the trebles(3), you'll get good highs... The sound is really different but don't push the gain more than 6 on this mini 6505 or it will become muddy
I have the 6506MH its decent. I also have the EVH 5150iii 1x12 combo that I'm chopping up. I'm going to pull ths power amp out and build an amp enclosure for it. Love that power knob man to scale the wattage down. I wish it came standard on all tube amps.
thanks for these comparisons, they are very useful and you can really pinpoint the details, the only remark I would make is that in a live environment these lunchbox amps tend so sound very thin and with little low end, and it's something that's very noticeable if the other guitarist has a higher wattage tube amp. The fact that the 20w 6505 sounds dark compared to the 5150 tells a lot, since the peavey one sounds quite thin compared to a full size tube amp, this can be noticed a lot in the rehearsal's room (or live). It has to do also with the transformer size I think.
And no one would ever think you could take a lunchbox amp to a gig. I haven’t played live in 15 years, nor do I plan too, so this is great. I just wanna rip vh riffs and dweedle solos at home with backing tracks lol.
MY MAIN AMP IS "THE BEAST" ENGL STEVE MORSE BUT I CANGE THE TUBES IN MY LBX EVH 5150 3 TO mullard POWER TUBES AND NOS 12AX7 AND USE IT WITH THE ENGL INTO 4*12 XXL ENGL CAB IN stereo, lowering the MID IN MY LBX AND USE THE FULL resonance ITS SOUND AMAZING :)
Nice comparison. Evh sounds better. I have the 6505mh, run it through a 2x12 with Texas heats, sounds awesome. I also have 1x12 with a V30, don't like it with that cab at all.
The 5150 sounds better when you are playing alone, but in a mix all that high end clashes with the cymbals and vocals in my experience. I tend to eq it out and then they don’t sound that different.
That's a good point. I was discussing that the other day, modern amps that sound great by themselves often don't sound that good in a mix, and vice-versa. They are two different situations, with different needs. Alone you want detail and articulation. In a live band mix you need punch to cut through the mids and highs.
I've been thinking these for a while. I like the 5150lbx better as well. Just wasn't sure it would be thick enough sounding for me with the power tubes they use.
I have the lbx1 and you'll be surprised how much tone you're going to get out of it. And getting those tones at bedroom volumes without going deaf or getting evicted! That amp can run through a single 1x12 up to a 4x12 cab as well. For a small amp...it can chug! I think this amp is what you're looking for. The 50w is even more seismic!
I recently bought a Peavey 6505 mh too w/ 2 x 12” Peavey cab combo; exactly what Kyle and all the others said.” It’s a metal monster!” I have played my Ibanez RG 570 (JB) I purchased in 89’ and then a RG 370 DX (White) in 07’ then my new RG 550 (NP) in 20’ and all my Ibanez RG’s “REALLY” Love this amp for sure! My 1st head/cab I started with was the Peavey micro 20 watt Piranha with 6505 1x8” cab I keep in the bedroom still to this day and after many years of combo amps I said I’m gonna buy me a head/cab instead of combo amps and never looked back! Keep up the great informative videos because they really help, Kyle!#Liked&Subscribed#Peavey❤️#🎸#🤘🏻#🔊#🔥#DirtySouth#BiloxiMafia@Kyle Bull
I had a 6505 which was massive fun but had to sell it living in apartments. Wish Peavey would bring back a custom shop USA made 5150 version not the ones made in China or Mexico. I'd pay more for a custom USA made 5150 too. But for now the Mezzabarba MZero and Uberschall will do what I need.
Just look for a used USA built 5150 or 6505, they come up for sale pretty frequently for about 600 bucks, prices on used gear seem to be high right now so they might go to 7 or even 800 but still better than spending 2 or 3k. Edit, well I guess since Eddie's death 5150s have gone nuts! But I still do see 6505s come up locally for that price, people buy them not realizing they can't really use them and so sell them off. These MHs are kick ass and usable for those of us who aren't playing large gigs or have a space where we can use the 120w. I am guilty of that as well I had a Voodoo mod JSX 120 that was wicked but I sadly realized it was way too much amp for what I do! Speak of bargains though, JSXs can be found for peanuts for some reason!
I sometimes I think I'd rather have a good D-class 30W solid state power amp in one of these with the full tube preamp of the tube heads minus the loop driver and phase inverter tubes. I think the solid state power section would sound better than the EL84 tubes in terms of headroom. Peavey made a real hash of it though with the Piranha
The new EVH Icon amp sounds like it will be up your alley in October when it comes out with its power tube section running into a solid state phase inverter
Great demo of the difference in very similar heads. 5150 is brighter, with more gain. I agree with you. Curious, what are you using as a silent load box on the switcher for the amp that IS NOT connected to the speakers?
I heard the 5150 LBX at a store and it sounds better than any of the videos. It must be the mics, speakers, or because it was used maybe the tubes. It was more musical. I can't imagine the 6505 putting out that musical sound. I think these amps are basically 5150 more versatile for classic rock type metal, and the 6505 more for the 90s-2010 range metal.
Kyle would you rather use the 50w at a very low Volume or just grab a mini? I like playing with the knobs and hashing riffs out, I just dont always want my neighbors to hear me.
I’ve had the lbx and now have the 50w. He’s right the lbx volume taper is not good but it still sounded better at lower volumes to me. If you need to go really low that’d be my recommendation.
I believe the peavey has more features both sound chug chug metal 😆 ughhh. 😆 Look mom 3 chords tuned down played super fast no hands. Evh well can't go wrong features Peavey I do believe has more opts. Hell what do I know opinion. 😆 chug on my brother!!! Sorry m8 I'm having a moment gr8 review awesome chugging.
20W = not sufficient for rehearsals with a competent drummer playing heavy music.. totally clicks into this current trend of bedroom players / producers recording at home 50W = sufficient for gig/rehearsal but lacking in terms of head-room, especially in the lower-end region 100W = spot on for heavy music anywhere except the bedroom
Going to have to go with the snarl of the 6505 on this one.
NO LEADS. NO CLEANS. Words to live by.👍🏻🤘🏻
MY man!
If you crank the presence on the 6505 (8.5) and lower the trebles(3), you'll get good highs... The sound is really different but don't push the gain more than 6 on this mini 6505 or it will become muddy
I have the 6506MH its decent.
I also have the EVH 5150iii 1x12 combo that I'm chopping up.
I'm going to pull ths power amp out and build an amp enclosure for it. Love that power knob man to scale the wattage down. I wish it came standard on all tube amps.
Both are pretty stellar.
I here a little crackle when you play the 6505. Maybe just me. Nice video
I have the 6505 mh. Great little amp. Id like to get a the invective 120.
thanks for these comparisons, they are very useful and you can really pinpoint the details, the only remark I would make is that in a live environment these lunchbox amps tend so sound very thin and with little low end, and it's something that's very noticeable if the other guitarist has a higher wattage tube amp. The fact that the 20w 6505 sounds dark compared to the 5150 tells a lot, since the peavey one sounds quite thin compared to a full size tube amp, this can be noticed a lot in the rehearsal's room (or live). It has to do also with the transformer size I think.
I'm glad you find them helpful! I actually pointed out in the video that these amps won't hang in a live setting unless mic'd
And no one would ever think you could take a lunchbox amp to a gig. I haven’t played live in 15 years, nor do I plan too, so this is great. I just wanna rip vh riffs and dweedle solos at home with backing tracks lol.
No leads, No Cleans, you got us there bro
I've owned both, preferred the EVH, but the Peavey has more features that I wish the EVH had.
like what?
The 6505 would benefit with an eq pedal in the loop
MY MAIN AMP IS "THE BEAST" ENGL STEVE MORSE BUT I CANGE THE TUBES IN MY LBX EVH 5150 3 TO mullard POWER TUBES AND NOS 12AX7 AND USE IT WITH THE ENGL INTO 4*12 XXL ENGL CAB IN stereo, lowering the MID IN MY LBX AND USE THE FULL resonance ITS SOUND AMAZING :)
Great video. This was perfect timing for me. I've been thinking of upgrading my nephews Ibanez Tone Blaster to a lunchbox head and 2x12. Thanks
Get a used EVH 50 Watt,you will thank me
@@bigmike9527 I won't thank you because I don't want a used 50w head for my nephew.
@@thegodslayer8545 oooooooooooooooof
@@thegodslayer8545 - fucking savage 😂😂
Nice comparison. Evh sounds better. I have the 6505mh, run it through a 2x12 with Texas heats, sounds awesome. I also have 1x12 with a V30, don't like it with that cab at all.
The 5150 sounds better when you are playing alone, but in a mix all that high end clashes with the cymbals and vocals in my experience. I tend to eq it out and then they don’t sound that different.
Hmm....in my experience, I have never had that problem with the 5150iii
you cant get over a good drummer with the lbx the volume past 5-6 is all hiss
That's a good point. I was discussing that the other day, modern amps that sound great by themselves often don't sound that good in a mix, and vice-versa. They are two different situations, with different needs. Alone you want detail and articulation. In a live band mix you need punch to cut through the mids and highs.
I've been thinking these for a while. I like the 5150lbx better as well. Just wasn't sure it would be thick enough sounding for me with the power tubes they use.
I have the lbx1 and you'll be surprised how much tone you're going to get out of it. And getting those tones at bedroom volumes without going deaf or getting evicted! That amp can run through a single 1x12 up to a 4x12 cab as well. For a small amp...it can chug! I think this amp is what you're looking for. The 50w is even more seismic!
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Personally think the LBX SOUNDS better. I tend to use the blue channel instead of the red boosted with a Ts9 or fortin 33, just depends on the day.
Please do LBX vs LBX-S next.
6505 sounds better, has a little more balls and low end
YEP
Nope
Maybe
I recently bought a Peavey 6505 mh too w/ 2 x 12” Peavey cab combo; exactly what Kyle and all the others said.” It’s a metal monster!” I have played my Ibanez RG 570 (JB) I purchased in 89’ and then a RG 370 DX (White) in 07’ then my new RG 550 (NP) in 20’ and all my Ibanez RG’s “REALLY” Love this amp for sure! My 1st head/cab I started with was the Peavey micro 20 watt Piranha with 6505 1x8” cab I keep in the bedroom still to this day and after many years of combo amps I said I’m gonna buy me a head/cab instead of combo amps and never looked back! Keep up the great informative videos because they really help, Kyle!#Liked&Subscribed#Peavey❤️#🎸#🤘🏻#🔊#🔥#DirtySouth#BiloxiMafia@Kyle Bull
Depends 6505 is a little more saturated bite like a Marshall , 5150 has a flatter attack like a mesa
I had a 6505 which was massive fun but had to sell it living in apartments. Wish Peavey would bring back a custom shop USA made 5150 version not the ones made in China or Mexico. I'd pay more for a custom USA made 5150 too. But for now the Mezzabarba MZero and Uberschall will do what I need.
Just look for a used USA built 5150 or 6505, they come up for sale pretty frequently for about 600 bucks, prices on used gear seem to be high right now so they might go to 7 or even 800 but still better than spending 2 or 3k. Edit, well I guess since Eddie's death 5150s have gone nuts! But I still do see 6505s come up locally for that price, people buy them not realizing they can't really use them and so sell them off. These MHs are kick ass and usable for those of us who aren't playing large gigs or have a space where we can use the 120w. I am guilty of that as well I had a Voodoo mod JSX 120 that was wicked but I sadly realized it was way too much amp for what I do! Speak of bargains though, JSXs can be found for peanuts for some reason!
I sometimes I think I'd rather have a good D-class 30W solid state power amp in one of these with the full tube preamp of the tube heads minus the loop driver and phase inverter tubes. I think the solid state power section would sound better than the EL84 tubes in terms of headroom. Peavey made a real hash of it though with the Piranha
The new EVH Icon amp sounds like it will be up your alley in October when it comes out with its power tube section running into a solid state phase inverter
He did not switch the Crunch and bright on the green channel of 6505
hmm. with medium to low output pickups i'd say engl ironball. sharper attack.
I prefer the EVH. Seems to have a bit more clarity to my ear.
Was that a Bane riff you played?
Hm I would like to know in whitch position the resonance on the back of the evh was
I say it in the video. 1 o'clock.
EVH all the way 🤘🤘
damn u got a subscribe outta me when you said e standard thrash riffs lol
Great demo of the difference in very similar heads. 5150 is brighter, with more gain. I agree with you. Curious, what are you using as a silent load box on the switcher for the amp that IS NOT connected to the speakers?
I heard the 5150 LBX at a store and it sounds better than any of the videos. It must be the mics, speakers, or because it was used maybe the tubes. It was more musical. I can't imagine the 6505 putting out that musical sound. I think these amps are basically 5150 more versatile for classic rock type metal, and the 6505 more for the 90s-2010 range metal.
Kyle would you rather use the 50w at a very low Volume or just grab a mini?
I like playing with the knobs and hashing riffs out, I just dont always want my neighbors to hear me.
I’ve had the lbx and now have the 50w. He’s right the lbx volume taper is not good but it still sounded better at lower volumes to me. If you need to go really low that’d be my recommendation.
@@charleswood123 So in your Opinion the Lbx sounds better at a low volume compared to low volume on the 50w?
You can grab a jhs black box for 35 dollars and grab the 50 You won’t need a another amp. Unless you like buying lots of amps like me. Lol 😂
If you need to go bedroom level low… don’t even look at a 50 watt tube head. A 50 watt tube head will blow out your windows halfway between 0 and 1. 😂
Weirdly enough the 5150 original sounds better than the 6505, but I prefer the 6505 to the LBX II.
EVH all day
For me 6505 sounds better :) more brutal old skull sound :)
8:51 hahahaha lol
Matt Damon?
Of course listening to the audio blind I can’t tell the difference and I doubt anyone can
The 6505 MH sounds way better to me.
Hard to compare. They're two very different products that sound the same.
I believe the peavey has more features both sound chug chug metal 😆 ughhh. 😆 Look mom 3 chords tuned down played super fast no hands. Evh well can't go wrong features Peavey I do believe has more opts. Hell what do I know opinion. 😆 chug on my brother!!! Sorry m8 I'm having a moment gr8 review awesome chugging.
20W = not sufficient for rehearsals with a competent drummer playing heavy music.. totally clicks into this current trend of bedroom players / producers recording at home
50W = sufficient for gig/rehearsal but lacking in terms of head-room, especially in the lower-end region
100W = spot on for heavy music anywhere except the bedroom
I've never heard a peavey that I actually liked so I'd have to agree with you on this one 😂😂🤘🤘👍👍
Sound prity Close. Sounds to me evh copy the peavey
5150 wins
Play something ummmm musical 🎼 🎶 🤣 🤣 🤣 is that possible bro???
No
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