Just wish all these had replaceable 18650 batteries for longer runtime and to reduce e-waste when battery deteriorates over time. But great to see USB-C.
Agreed. Unfortunately removable batteries make water proofing and packaging more difficult so you don't see it very often. Fenix does have some bike lights with removable batteries, but they lack all the features Magicshine has.
I was going back and forth between the Olight RN 400 and the NiteRider Lumina Micro 650, but decided on the NiteRider because of the better mount. Now after watching you video I see that I could purchase some pretty cool mounts that let the light hang in the center of the handlebar which is cool.
Glad the video could help. A Garmin quarter-turn mount is much more common, very secure and something I'd recommend looking for when you're buying headlights. NiteRider does offer adapters to GoPro which can also be used on out-front mounts (www.niterider.com/products/gopro-adapter-by-k-edge) but it does cost extra.
6:12 the bike light i use now has a feature just for that scenario, there is a joint in the middle of the body which allows you to twist the front part of the light 180 degrees to the correct position when mounted upside down, or for just taking it apart to change the battery.
Since creating this review, Magicshine has actually added an underneath mount that lets you mount the lights on out-front-mounts. magicshine.com/collections/all-products/products/mj-6500
Very consice and comprehensive review as always. I use moon at the moment but tempting to try these especially after this. Can be had cheaper here in the EU through Ali. Weirdly olight also has an allty range maybe this is why they kept the name? Keep up the outstanding work
I like the Fenix but bought the Olight version RN400 as it was cheapest and smallest. I'm doing city paved and dirt trails usually I'm back in the early evening when the sun is going down so this is a big upgrade over my simple white 15 lumen flasher!
Glad it worked out for you. You should try some of the 3000+ lumen Magicshine lights, it's hard to go back to small commuter lights after you get used to the power.
@@TheSweetCyclists Those seem pretty great, I noticed what I've been missing not owning a headlight all these years in the evening with the RN400 even running at 100 lumens for dim lighted trails. If its adjusted on a slight downward angle correctly, seeing pot holes and other things is that much better now. I think I might try the Fenix BC30 V2.0. I like the idea of the burst mode wireless remote control. 30 seconds of 2200 lumen boost every press of that button!
I’m loving these lights my only issue is I have a bontrager computer mount integrated into the stem, and I won’t be able to put the light center of handlebar , bc the mount requires turning the light from 90 degrees and it would conflict with the computer mount ..but I have to have the light on the handlebar , out front mounts interfer with wires
If you have a Bontrager Blendr GoPro bottom mount you can try this Magicshine adapter - magicshine.com/collections/mount/products/mj-6500. You slide the rubber pieces over the light (instead of rotating) so it might work with your setup.
So, I am planning to buy the Garmin Edge 520 plus and the Magicshine Allty 400. My question is: Does the light come with a mount that can be used for both the light (at the bottom) and the computer (on top)?
Yes. The lights have a built-in Garmin mount (which let you mount it on top) and also include a GoPro to Garmin adapter (which can be attached to the downward facing GoPro mount).
Is it possible to disassemble these magicshine to replace the dead battery? I know you recommended some model such as the fenix with replaceable capability out of the box but it is pretty expensive for me. Do you know any other with cheaper price but still provide these greener capability?
Magicshine doesn't officially support battery replacement, so you would have to open it up at your own risk. Magicshine does offer the Allty 2000 with a cartridge battery that is replaceable, otherwise brands like Fenix (simple flashlight style lights) and Lupine (pricey but highly serviceable) are brands you should consider.
Great question. I haven't ridden with the Dayblazer but based on specs they are very similar. I still prefer the Allty 800 as it has a Garmin style mount instead of the Dayblazer's GoPro adapter. The Allty also has a sleeker power button with illuminated battery status.
Could you bring some Lezyne or Cateye brand lights to the channel? For example Cateye's Ampp1100 or Lezyne's Super Drive 1600, it would be interesting to see how it performs in terms of performance, regards! :)
We're working on it! Reach out to Cateye / Lezyne social media and UA-cam and let them know you want The Sweet Cyclists to review their products to help.
Depends in the type of riding. Right now we're using the Allty 400 + Seemee 180 for daytime riding as it's a very compact and bright combination. Otherwise I like the Allty 2000 for nighttime riding as it has the OLED runtime display with battery status.
Yes, it's a bit confusing. These lights are for sale on Magicshine's website as the Allty series as well as what appear to be identical versions as the RN series through Olight. I believe Olight might be offered in some countries where Magicshine isn't available as well.
I believe it's the other way around, Olight works with Magicshine to rebrand some of their lights for different markets. You can so the 'cobranded' tag on Olight's bike light product page.
No worries. Aside from small feature differences on some of the lights, they seem to be identical. Pick the right lumen output for your riding style and buy the cheaper of the Magicshine/Olight options.
@@TheSweetCyclistsI think the majority of your reviews that I have seen had walls instead of the road. So this may have prompted me to think this one to be the wall too, mainly because it was stationary. Thank you for pointing it out. But what I meant was to get the bike moving down the road simulating a real ride.
@@metamorphosis1541 No worries, the reviews should always include some riding clips. The GoPro camera isn't that great in low light, but it should give you a sense of the beam shape but always seem a bit dimmer than real-life for these sub 1000 lumen lights.
Just wish all these had replaceable 18650 batteries for longer runtime and to reduce e-waste when battery deteriorates over time. But great to see USB-C.
Agreed. Unfortunately removable batteries make water proofing and packaging more difficult so you don't see it very often. Fenix does have some bike lights with removable batteries, but they lack all the features Magicshine has.
I was going back and forth between the Olight RN 400 and the NiteRider Lumina Micro 650, but decided on the NiteRider because of the better mount. Now after watching you video I see that I could purchase some pretty cool mounts that let the light hang in the center of the handlebar which is cool.
Glad the video could help. A Garmin quarter-turn mount is much more common, very secure and something I'd recommend looking for when you're buying headlights. NiteRider does offer adapters to GoPro which can also be used on out-front mounts (www.niterider.com/products/gopro-adapter-by-k-edge) but it does cost extra.
@@TheSweetCyclists Thank you for the reply and the link.
6:12 the bike light i use now has a feature just for that scenario, there is a joint in the middle of the body which allows you to twist the front part of the light 180 degrees to the correct position when mounted upside down, or for just taking it apart to change the battery.
Since creating this review, Magicshine has actually added an underneath mount that lets you mount the lights on out-front-mounts. magicshine.com/collections/all-products/products/mj-6500
Very consice and comprehensive review as always. I use moon at the moment but tempting to try these especially after this. Can be had cheaper here in the EU through Ali.
Weirdly olight also has an allty range maybe this is why they kept the name?
Keep up the outstanding work
Appreciate it. Hopefully Magicshine comes out with some StVZO lenses in the future which should make them more popular in the EU.
I like the Fenix but bought the Olight version RN400 as it was cheapest and smallest. I'm doing city paved and dirt trails usually I'm back in the early evening when the sun is going down so this is a big upgrade over my simple white 15 lumen flasher!
Glad it worked out for you. You should try some of the 3000+ lumen Magicshine lights, it's hard to go back to small commuter lights after you get used to the power.
@@TheSweetCyclists Those seem pretty great, I noticed what I've been missing not owning a headlight all these years in the evening with the RN400 even running at 100 lumens for dim lighted trails. If its adjusted on a slight downward angle correctly, seeing pot holes and other things is that much better now. I think I might try the Fenix BC30 V2.0. I like the idea of the burst mode wireless remote control. 30 seconds of 2200 lumen boost every press of that button!
I’m loving these lights my only issue is I have a bontrager computer mount integrated into the stem, and I won’t be able to put the light center of handlebar , bc the mount requires turning the light from 90 degrees and it would conflict with the computer mount ..but I have to have the light on the handlebar , out front mounts interfer with wires
If you have a Bontrager Blendr GoPro bottom mount you can try this Magicshine adapter - magicshine.com/collections/mount/products/mj-6500. You slide the rubber pieces over the light (instead of rotating) so it might work with your setup.
So, I am planning to buy the Garmin Edge 520 plus and the Magicshine Allty 400. My question is: Does the light come with a mount that can be used for both the light (at the bottom) and the computer (on top)?
Yes. The lights have a built-in Garmin mount (which let you mount it on top) and also include a GoPro to Garmin adapter (which can be attached to the downward facing GoPro mount).
@@TheSweetCyclists Thank you so much!
Is it possible to disassemble these magicshine to replace the dead battery? I know you recommended some model such as the fenix with replaceable capability out of the box but it is pretty expensive for me. Do you know any other with cheaper price but still provide these greener capability?
Magicshine doesn't officially support battery replacement, so you would have to open it up at your own risk. Magicshine does offer the Allty 2000 with a cartridge battery that is replaceable, otherwise brands like Fenix (simple flashlight style lights) and Lupine (pricey but highly serviceable) are brands you should consider.
Magicshine Allty 800 vs Blackburn Dayblazer 800? Which one is better?
Great question. I haven't ridden with the Dayblazer but based on specs they are very similar. I still prefer the Allty 800 as it has a Garmin style mount instead of the Dayblazer's GoPro adapter. The Allty also has a sleeker power button with illuminated battery status.
My handlebar mount broke, can I use a cheap garmin cycle computer? Or do I have to buy Magicshine's own?
Any Garmin style mount will work. That's the best feature of the Magicshine lights, you don't have to pay for expensive proprietary mounts.
Could you bring some Lezyne or Cateye brand lights to the channel? For example Cateye's Ampp1100 or Lezyne's Super Drive 1600, it would be interesting to see how it performs in terms of performance, regards! :)
We're working on it! Reach out to Cateye / Lezyne social media and UA-cam and let them know you want The Sweet Cyclists to review their products to help.
would these lights work whilst being charged?
Yes, I just tried it and it supports on-the-go charging with the USB-C port.
Can we charge using power bank while the light is ON?
I'd like to know this too!
What combination of lights would you use? Allty1000 / Seemee200 or Rn1500 / Seemee 180?
Depends in the type of riding. Right now we're using the Allty 400 + Seemee 180 for daytime riding as it's a very compact and bright combination. Otherwise I like the Allty 2000 for nighttime riding as it has the OLED runtime display with battery status.
They moved the RN to their sister brand Olight.
Yes, it's a bit confusing. These lights are for sale on Magicshine's website as the Allty series as well as what appear to be identical versions as the RN series through Olight. I believe Olight might be offered in some countries where Magicshine isn't available as well.
Allty is just a rebranding of olight isn't it?
I believe it's the other way around, Olight works with Magicshine to rebrand some of their lights for different markets. You can so the 'cobranded' tag on Olight's bike light product page.
Oh ya. Lol. I have an oligh rn400 and on the bottom it says magicshine. Lol. Thanks for the update.
@@TheSweetCyclists oh ya. I have an rn400. And on the bottom it says magicshine. Lol. Thanks for the update.
No worries. Aside from small feature differences on some of the lights, they seem to be identical. Pick the right lumen output for your riding style and buy the cheaper of the Magicshine/Olight options.
Awesome !!
I think shining the lights on the road gives a better idea than shining them on walls
See 07:51 for the on-road shots of the lights.
@@TheSweetCyclistsI think the majority of your reviews that I have seen had walls instead of the road. So this may have prompted me to think this one to be the wall too, mainly because it was stationary. Thank you for pointing it out. But what I meant was to get the bike moving down the road simulating a real ride.
@@metamorphosis1541 No worries, the reviews should always include some riding clips. The GoPro camera isn't that great in low light, but it should give you a sense of the beam shape but always seem a bit dimmer than real-life for these sub 1000 lumen lights.