You missed a big economy factor: The lost power for the stove itself is probably less than what you do (I'm in sweaty FLorida) to get that heat OUT of the house! That fifty cents worth of power on the stove might be a few dollars worth of A.C.! I think people like this kind of machine b/c it simplifies your life, and it won't BURN food that's sitting in there for a long time. So, it's a winner!
People sometimes don't think about all the heat that is generated when they fire up the stove or oven to make meals. The air conditioner works overtime when the kitchen is filling with steam from three or four pots of food. We can cut that down by cooking larger batches, and putting the rest in the fridge for the next day or two, or freezing it. The air conditioner, especially in Florida, is always on my mind, because we get killed with electric bills in the summer. Eating cold salads, cereals, sandwiches and fruits for meals in the summer saves a bundle in electric.
I have the same model thermal cooker, been using for 3 years. It is certainly economical, but also makes thoroughly tender meat stews, soups, and beans. Saves $ and the result is better.
@@nictheartist I still use it regularly, going on 5 yrs now. It saves energy and $, but it really does make things very tender. It has held up well, still works great.
I have the same brand of thermal cooker. It's great for making polenta because no need to stir. Bring the water and ingredients to boiling then stir in the corn meal with a whisk. It will coagulate within minutes and then I put it to thermal cook for 3 to 6 hours. This thermal cooker will keep the food hot (not warm) for 12 hours in the tropical climate where I live. I use it 3 times a week and just bought a second thermal cooker. For cooking dry corn for pozole it takes 2 trips through the thermal cooker. It's brought to a boil and sits over night in the thermal cooker, then again it's reheated and sits in the thermal cooker 3 to 6 hours and the corn will be tender and expanded, ready for making pozole. My pressure cooker also comes with a thermal cooker bag. I bring the beans up to pressure and immediately put it into the thermal bag. In about 3 hours the beans will be soft and tender.
How cool... from dry corn huh? I think one does have to try to cook things that are mushy at the end. It might have been better for me to brown this chicken first.
Best idea of the week! I was thinking about GRITS, which is pretty close. Yeah! And no scorching. Polenta in the usual way takes some strength and determination to cook. You have made a better world!
I can vouch for this as I’ve used one when ever I go car camping for an extended period (two weeks to a month). My motive is not so much to save money (but as you correctly point out, it does), but to save Propane. Which I ran out of a couple times in the past.
you can also get a pressure cooking pot for long cooking it drastically reduces your cooking time, ergo you dont waste that much heat, maybe its even more efficient than a thermal cooker.
you could wait the 5 days for prime days and get a good one there for not much money, i mean a pressure cooking pot can ALWAYS be a usefulll thing! no wasted money in my opinion!
I was gonna say the same thing, my wife uses the pressure cooker all the time. I never tried to measure it but the food is ready so much faster it's gotta save energy.
@@stephencoleman3578 This is the key. Use the warp drive of the pressure cooker to cook chicken more thoroughly. Then start your roux in the inner pot and add the chicken. Once it starts boiling, place inner pot in to the thermal cooker. Close lid and come back in ten hours to an awesome meal.
Great idea! I think this idea should receive more credit A thermal cooker is more popular in Asian continents where typically a lot of dishes include stews, broths, etc I can understand if the majority of the viewership here prefers the crockpot alternative since the crockpot fits very well within US style of cuisine typically if you want a really strong arome, flavoured barbecue ribs, you will need the pressure cooking from the crockpot for the ribs to soak up the flavours whereas a pork brisket stew doesn't require as much heat because the flavours stay within the soup base Ironically, it is very difficult to find a good crockpot over here in Asia compared to the exuberous number of crockpot choices you can find over on amazon US In the end, it boils down to what type of dishes you want to cook yourself and your family both thermal cooker and crockpot can be useful
How about combining this with a stovetop pressure cooker? Those boil at 121 C/ 250F. I made a thermal box for mine. Covered the pressure vent with a shot glass and in the box it went covered with extra layers of insulation. Experimenting with different foods and times. So far so good. It takes way longer for the temp to drop from a higher starting point.
I appreciate you doing the energy savings display, because it shows me that it will not make this worth my while, and I was just about to order one after seeing various demonstrations. I think a pressure cooker, which is about one-third the cost of a thermal cooker will do the same thing in terms of saving energy. While it won't keep food hot for hours, I don't need it to. For camping these would be great though.
You have a point. I also have a pressure cooker now and it saves time by cooking fast. Thermal cooker like this I haven't used much after using it a few months.
nice i have an instant pot, if u cook using it under pressure (not just keep food heated), then the meat comes out super tender. reminds me of the clay pot technique of wrapping a chicken well in a clay pot and cooking it underground where heat is retained.
I think I was just as interested about your use of coriander in your chicken as I was about the cooker itself. I can't remember what coriander tastes like. I think I should probably try it. The cooker is an excellent purchase. It is convenient to those who don't like slow cookers for some reason. This essentially is a slow cooker without the electricity. This cooker would do very well at a campsite, or when you want to cook something if your electric is off, and sitting over a grill for long periods is not your idea of fun. Thank you for that review. I think I will look into it. Usually when I cook, I use an extremely large teflon frying pan, and put all my stuff in it - meat, vegetables and potatoes. I bring it to a boil and then put it on low. I let it cook on low for an hour or more, depending on what I am cooking. So the one pot thing saves a bunch right there.
Love the money graphics and timing. Never heard of a thermal cooker. I've had a slowcooker, enjoyed it (meat so tender) but pressure cookers are better for preparing last minute meals. I guess it's the same concept as a slow cooker (aka crock pot), but it's not plugged into an electrical source.
That would be wonderful for dried beans, which I cook throughout the fall and winter season, but I hate that they come in plastic bags. So these days, I only get them from neighbors who don't like cooking them. Seniors get them with commodities pretty often.
I'm trying to find one of these that is induction compatible, THAT would be the most efficient. There is a Swiss product called Thermopot...where the pot,itself, is actually double wall insulated, it's also induction compatible... This is a VERY efficient way to cook because the heating operation is very efficient too. Combine all these concepts =very efficient
BeatTheBush I had two when I lived in Brazil, they are awesome! You can always set a shorter time and leave it hot cooking for longer if you aren't in a rush and want your food cooked slower. Get a good quality one, if the Teflon is good it's really easy to clean or put in the dishwasher. Some models have a bunch of programs with different temperatures and times. I am totally getting one here in Europe when I find a good deal.
BeatTheBush I find it depends what is being put in microwave. It’s good for reheating things you’ve already cooked but I’m not keen on using it to cook from raw. That said there is no denying it’s a money saver 😎👍❤️
I realized I don’t use it very much because I eat more pan fried rather than stewed type. Instant pot also help speeds up cooking time with the pressure cooker reducing the need for this. Still, I probably is good for camping when trying to conserve fuel for stews.
I bought the small one off Amazon for $100 1.5 litter size Just used it for the first time with rice got to broil on stove then put it in pot 3 hours later it was good even after eating some I came back 4 hours later and it was still hot even at the 7-hour Mark even after I already opened up the lid
It's great because you wont burn anything like in regular stoves. No many tips needed, you just do the same recipe but put it in the thermal cooker for 2-3 hours.
is it cooking at a very slight gurgle? the reason i ask is i want to know if i can make bone broth it needs to have a slight gurgle going which is below a simmer
Get an electric pressure cooker Once you get up to pressure it takes very little energy to maintain the pressure. And if you don't fast release pressure you save even more energy. And most IMPORTANT: TIME IS MONEY.
That idea works. Plus if I had the second cooker, I could have both vegetables and meat ready to serve and freshly cooked at the same time. Looking at Target stores in my area to see if they have them.
Stupid question, but do you think maybe if you already have an instant pot you could do the same kind of theory with an instant pot? Start it on the instant pot and close it and unplug it and walk away? I really want this, but i really don’t want to spend $100 on it if maybe the same kind of theory with an instant pot would work. What do you think?
Yes but probably not needed as the pressure cooking reduces cooking times greatly. If you don’t use the pressure part I think it retains heat pretty well still but not sure how it compares with this.
@@BeatTheBush thanks! I tried doing it with a pot that retains heat nicely today before I left for work. It worked well because it was sliced pork belly but I still want that thermal cooker 😆
I always use my pressure cooker to cook beans and lentils, one of the best investments I have made in my life. It cooks beans in like half an hour and I don't even have to soak them before cooking them. You can also use it for other things like soup or meat but I have only cooked beans, rice and lentils with it so far.
Mark Schmitz thank you for replying. I find I have gas problems from unsoaked Beans. I even have to get rid of the cooking water because I'm afraid it may give or cause gas!
Does InstantPot provide the same kind of energy cost savings? Because I've been using it to make delicious dishes out of really cheap cuts of beef at the market (between $2 and $3 a pound) and chicken meat sales (between 60 to 98 cents a pound).
i just bought a 1.5 liter one by thermos, as i travel full-time in my camper. heat to boil on propane stove, put in outer thermos, and save a TON of propane, AND letting me use less gas for the camper to go fill up on propane 😀. the first thing i did was try cooking rice, in the same rice/water ratio as usual- like a charm, but maybe use a little less water next time, as no steam escapes from this thing. then today i tried cubing some potatoes, adding a couple chopped shallots, some curry, garlic, and hatch chile powder (red), some freeze-dried black beans and corn, and a couple heaping tablespoons of coconut milk powder. brought to boil in water to cover, took off fire and into the thermos crock. then, for good measure here in the american desert southwest, i set the whole thing in the sun for a couple hours, and WOW! a thermal cooker might just be a camper's best friend.
Several commented on *pressure cookers* (me too) as a time saving alternative, but don't they run *over $100?* And nowdays they are reportedly easier and safer to use than our grandmother's pressure cookers, which nearly required a boiler operators license. I can still recall my granda firmly commanding, "Stand back. Ita burn ya. "
It is completely safe and extremely common to sous vide chicken drumsticks to 158F or 70C. Since the temperature is kept there for an extended period of time, it kills off the bacteria and is safe to eat. This is different from grilling where if the internal temp just reached 158F after 10 mins, it would not be safe to eat.
Long term cooking are for winter, save energy by using less home heating. In summer don't do long cooking, why are you doing long cooking in summer anyway, it's hot outside eat something refreshing
=D You're welcome! Yeah, might want a bit more margin in your cooking of chicken. I think I'll probably leave it on the stove 5 more minutes next time.
You could replace the chicken with potatoes, 10 lb of potatoes are 1.99 at the 99 cent store, and cabbage instant 50% savings. Plus a bonus of no animal fat which is the only fat that clogs arteries.
Wait, in a vccum/in space, you can radiate heat im pretty sure. I mean, how does the sun shine heat to us if space can't transfer heat. Im not sure if im out of my element here, lol
Good point, however heat is a measure of the average motion of particles in a given area. You cannot transfer heat through space, since there are so few particles in space to transfer the motion. What you can do is propel radiation through space, which is what the sun does. It starts with the fusion of hydrogen into helium, two Hydrogen atoms have more mass than one Helium atom. The remaining mass is released as energy in the form of a photon, which is radiation. A little bonus, that photon takes about 100,000 years for the photon to reach the surface of the sun and than about 8 minutes to reach Earth. If the star has enough mass it will eventually fuse two Helium into one Lithium. This process continues till Iron (FE) which actually has more mass than the two Manganese, that fuse to make it. In other words Iron and above actually cost energy to fuse, unlike the previous elements that have excess energy when fused. So if a star is massive enough to produce Iron, than making that Iron will be its undoing. This may make you wonder how the elements above Iron are produced, that happens in a supernova blast. There are different types of supernova depends on the mass of the star. But the point is the same, elements are shot out with such force that they actually start stripping off the electrons and creating a plasma. Those stripped off electrons are colliding with other elements some of which would be Iron. Those collision are what create the elements above Iron. This is why Uranium is radioactive, since is has too much mass to be stable, it slowly releases excess energy in the form of radiation. This will have a predictable rate, called a half life.
That's a great idea! I don't know about the business aspect, but I would like them for myself. There's a Japanese plastic gadget that does exactly this, it's the same kind of machine just made of plastic. I got one and the instructions were entirely in Japanese, so I may have missed some fine points.
I can already tell ppl are gonna complain that the chicken is "pink". That is not the pink you are looking for. You could cook your chicken to 180 and it would still be like that. You gotta look for the translucent bright pink. See the raw chicken for reference. 158 is okay
So you have to cook a 1000 hours in order to get your return on investment? But that's not even including the amount of power needed to heat the thermal cooker itself.
ROI excludes the initial heating. Time in the thermal cooker is time reduced on the stove. So it may take 4+ months of usage but it's certainly faster ROI than solar panels of 20 years.
It costs $51.42 with the link you provide, according to your $.05 of savings per hour. You would need to cook for over 1000 hours to gain your money back. What I'm saying is that if you were to cook using the thermal cooker you still need to use money to heat it in the first place. Therefore adding into the cost, so the savings is actually less than originally stated. Also why did you bring up a ROI of solar panels? Obviously it's less than 20 years to recoup your money, but to buy it specifically with the goal of savings is a bit ridiculous.
Yup. It's the cooking time not used. So if cooking the thing takes 1hr 20 minutes normally, you have to heat it 20 minutes initially. Then you save 1 hour.
Where you get into trouble on solar panels is that your property tax goes up and will not go down even after removing the system. Even if you were to call for a reassessment, most likely the taxes will still go up due to rising housing prices.. that has been my experience in California... think Proposition 13.
I use $14 a month for conventional cooking. With the thermal pot my gas usage as dropped to $7 a month. In 7 months the thermal pot has paid for itself and it should last many, many years after that. I like my thermal pot so much that I bought a second one.
That chicken looked cooked to me lol. It just doesn't have that grilled or fried color to it... because i mean... why would it?? It was done in a thermal cooker.
According to this video "The Energy Detective - amazing energy efficient slow cooker" an electric pressure cooker would use about twice the energy as the thermal cooker.
Sounds about right. But I find after a lot of use that thermal cooking only is good for 1.5 hour or so before the temperature lowers too much. Helps to have it as full as possible for most thermal mass.
You are half right in ur cooking method, you first need to make grill marks / or sear the outside ( for crispy outside, for both veggies and meat) , caramelized the sugars in your product.... always, if not you rob ur self on tastiness 😁
This might be a bit risky, but I let my chicken/meats come up to room temperature before sticking them in the oven. It seems to cook in the center uniformly with the outside. Very cold chicken will lag behind in the center while the outside gets overdone.
I accidentally bought this from chinese store, i thought it was a slow cooker, but it turned out to be without electricity 😂 But this was probably better idea now im going to jse my solar to heat the water than add in this to save energy.
I know what he did wrong. He needs to add more water to fill the chicken. That’s how a thermal cooker work. And he left it quite short. Normally they recommended to leave it at least 4 - 5 hrs though.
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@@BeatTheBush I hope you can stand all these e-diots, any post about food really brings out the worst comments. It looks like dozens of people are being a little unhinged by looking at some food that wasn't fried? Hasn't anyone ever seen anything just STEAMED on a plate? Food isn't always browned when it's cooked!!!! And what if you were trying to make STOCK, or good old CHICKEN SOUP?
I've used pressure cookers for years. The old stories about exploding pressure cookers are what keep many people from buying them, but they have little valves in the lid that will blow if the pressure gets too high due to a clog. I have never had a problem. Cuts cooking time to minutes, and will tenderize the toughest piece of meat, while keeping in all the flavor and moistness. Mine lost it's seal, and I couldn't replace it. I really need to get another one. I miss it.
I use a pressure cooker for beans, as soon as it's up to pressure it's placed in a thermal bag and in 3 hours the beans are soft and tender. If the beans are old, it will need a second time through, but a lot of energy is saved by combining the two.
Go plant base, meat is the most expensive part of a meal. Grow microgreens, a pack of flax seeds from the dollar store or the 99 cent store yields only pennies per serving.
Chicken at dangerous temperature! Brown chicken first, bringing it to a simmer with veggies after. Also, 20 minute simmer is a minimum. 25 to 30 minutes would be safer. I use Shuttle Chef which holds heat way better and would never do less than 30 minutes with chicken. It is just too dangerous!
I knew a single mom w 6 kids who would cook for 2 days straight when her assistance check came in. She would freeze everything. When she would come in from work, dinner was ready in 20 minutes. She married a widower who also had 6 kids and she ran that house like a Swiss watch. Cooking and freezing saves time and money. Managing a freezer is a skill that few possess.. as illustrated by several chest freezers I have seen at the San Mateo Home Depot for $150 at closeout prices because no one buys them. Food is primarily to keep us healthy, not entertain us.. we are just spoiled and demand variety.
Lol... I do like to switch between at least a few things. I used to require eating something different every meal. Now I can eat it 2-3 times in a row or more depending on how good it is.
On my sailboat I use a small pressure cooker and after hot wrap it in a towel.
The pressure cooker has a sealed top so it will not spill while I sail.
You missed a big economy factor: The lost power for the stove itself is probably less than what you do (I'm in sweaty FLorida) to get that heat OUT of the house! That fifty cents worth of power on the stove might be a few dollars worth of A.C.! I think people like this kind of machine b/c it simplifies your life, and it won't BURN food that's sitting in there for a long time. So, it's a winner!
People sometimes don't think about all the heat that is generated when they fire up the stove or oven to make meals. The air conditioner works overtime when the kitchen is filling with steam from three or four pots of food. We can cut that down by cooking larger batches, and putting the rest in the fridge for the next day or two, or freezing it. The air conditioner, especially in Florida, is always on my mind, because we get killed with electric bills in the summer. Eating cold salads, cereals, sandwiches and fruits for meals in the summer saves a bundle in electric.
I have the same model thermal cooker, been using for 3 years. It is certainly economical, but also makes thoroughly tender meat stews, soups, and beans. Saves $ and the result is better.
Sometimes, you have to cook the food long enough because the thermal keeps it hot another 2-3 hours.
Hi, I've been looking at this particular brand, how has your experience been with it since you bought it?
@@nictheartist I still use it regularly, going on 5 yrs now. It saves energy and $, but it really does make things very tender. It has held up well, still works great.
@@cam-bo11 would using a pressure cooker brought up to heat and then taken off and wrapped in a towel do the same thing?
I absolutely LOVE my thermal cooker. Too bad it didn't take off like the instant pot. I have both and i love both very much :)
I have the same brand of thermal cooker. It's great for making polenta because no need to stir. Bring the water and ingredients to boiling then stir in the corn meal with a whisk. It will coagulate within minutes and then I put it to thermal cook for 3 to 6 hours. This thermal cooker will keep the food hot (not warm) for 12 hours in the tropical climate where I live. I use it 3 times a week and just bought a second thermal cooker.
For cooking dry corn for pozole it takes 2 trips through the thermal cooker. It's brought to a boil and sits over night in the thermal cooker, then again it's reheated and sits in the thermal cooker 3 to 6 hours and the corn will be tender and expanded, ready for making pozole.
My pressure cooker also comes with a thermal cooker bag. I bring the beans up to pressure and immediately put it into the thermal bag. In about 3 hours the beans will be soft and tender.
How cool... from dry corn huh? I think one does have to try to cook things that are mushy at the end. It might have been better for me to brown this chicken first.
What brand is this? Please
@@lushaliu2997 Tayama. I like them so much that I have two of them now.
Best idea of the week! I was thinking about GRITS, which is pretty close. Yeah! And no scorching. Polenta in the usual way takes some strength and determination to cook. You have made a better world!
I can vouch for this as I’ve used one when ever I go car camping for an extended period (two weeks to a month). My motive is not so much to save money (but as you correctly point out, it does), but to save Propane. Which I ran out of a couple times in the past.
=D It saves energy indeed.
you can also get a pressure cooking pot for long cooking it drastically reduces your cooking time, ergo you dont waste that much heat, maybe its even more efficient than a thermal cooker.
Hmmm I think this calls for a test!
you could wait the 5 days for prime days and get a good one there for not much money, i mean a pressure cooking pot can ALWAYS be a usefulll thing! no wasted money in my opinion!
I was gonna say the same thing, my wife uses the pressure cooker all the time. I never tried to measure it but the food is ready so much faster it's gotta save energy.
I use a pressure cooker and then put it into my thermal cooker to finish it off for a few hours.
@@stephencoleman3578 This is the key. Use the warp drive of the pressure cooker to cook chicken more thoroughly. Then start your roux in the inner pot and add the chicken. Once it starts boiling, place inner pot in to the thermal cooker. Close lid and come back in ten hours to an awesome meal.
Great idea! I think this idea should receive more credit
A thermal cooker is more popular in Asian continents where typically a lot of dishes include stews, broths, etc
I can understand if the majority of the viewership here prefers the crockpot alternative since the crockpot fits very well within US style of cuisine
typically if you want a really strong arome, flavoured barbecue ribs, you will need the pressure cooking from the crockpot for the ribs to soak up the flavours
whereas a pork brisket stew doesn't require as much heat because the flavours stay within the soup base
Ironically, it is very difficult to find a good crockpot over here in Asia compared to the exuberous number of crockpot choices you can find over on amazon US
In the end, it boils down to what type of dishes you want to cook yourself and your family
both thermal cooker and crockpot can be useful
Huh never heard of it before. Sounds better than a crock pot! I was always worried about leaving it alone and it still makes a lot of heat
Yup. Gives a bit of peace of mind if you go out while its cooking.
How about combining this with a stovetop pressure cooker? Those boil at 121 C/ 250F. I made a thermal box for mine. Covered the pressure vent with a shot glass and in the box it went covered with extra layers of insulation. Experimenting with different foods and times. So far so good. It takes way longer for the temp to drop from a higher starting point.
I think I like my chicken a little more coloured than how that turned out :P
I guess I didn't care too much about the color. I could've turned it into a curry.
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You’d have to bread it and fry it. This device isn’t a fryer. It’s a convection boiler.
Damn racist.
Watchu mean nigga?
I appreciate you doing the energy savings display, because it shows me that it will not make this worth my while, and I was just about to order one after seeing various demonstrations. I think a pressure cooker, which is about one-third the cost of a thermal cooker will do the same thing in terms of saving energy. While it won't keep food hot for hours, I don't need it to. For camping these would be great though.
You have a point. I also have a pressure cooker now and it saves time by cooking fast. Thermal cooker like this I haven't used much after using it a few months.
drumstick cook this way is very smooth and delicious
nice i have an instant pot, if u cook using it under pressure (not just keep food heated), then the meat comes out super tender. reminds me of the clay pot technique of wrapping a chicken well in a clay pot and cooking it underground where heat is retained.
Ahhh... anything to retain the heat. =D
I think I was just as interested about your use of coriander in your chicken as I was about the cooker itself. I can't remember what coriander tastes like. I think I should probably try it. The cooker is an excellent purchase. It is convenient to those who don't like slow cookers for some reason. This essentially is a slow cooker without the electricity. This cooker would do very well at a campsite, or when you want to cook something if your electric is off, and sitting over a grill for long periods is not your idea of fun. Thank you for that review. I think I will look into it. Usually when I cook, I use an extremely large teflon frying pan, and put all my stuff in it - meat, vegetables and potatoes. I bring it to a boil and then put it on low. I let it cook on low for an hour or more, depending on what I am cooking. So the one pot thing saves a bunch right there.
Love the money graphics and timing.
Never heard of a thermal cooker. I've had a slowcooker, enjoyed it (meat so tender) but pressure cookers are better for preparing last minute meals.
I guess it's the same concept as a slow cooker (aka crock pot), but it's not plugged into an electrical source.
That would be wonderful for dried beans, which I cook throughout the fall and winter season, but I hate that they come in plastic bags. So these days, I only get them from neighbors who don't like cooking them. Seniors get them with commodities pretty often.
Yup! It's great for road trips or camping where fuel is limited.
How does it compare to a pressure cooker, e.g., an instant pot?
I'm trying to find one of these that is induction compatible, THAT would be the most efficient. There is a Swiss product called Thermopot...where the pot,itself, is actually double wall insulated, it's also induction compatible... This is a VERY efficient way to cook because the heating operation is very efficient too. Combine all these concepts =very efficient
What about an electric pressure cooker? They seem quite well insulated, plus they have the benefit of reducing the cooking time.
Oh alright. Do I have to get one for the advancement of this channel?? Lol.
they work really well
My pressure cooker makes awesome vegtable soup, love it. Uses very little water and energy and done within 20 minutes compared to a slow cooker.
Yes, you have to get one to advance the channel. I guess you can write it off as an expense if we demand that you get one :)
BeatTheBush I had two when I lived in Brazil, they are awesome! You can always set a shorter time and leave it hot cooking for longer if you aren't in a rush and want your food cooked slower.
Get a good quality one, if the Teflon is good it's really easy to clean or put in the dishwasher. Some models have a bunch of programs with different temperatures and times. I am totally getting one here in Europe when I find a good deal.
will it work on induction cooker? What method of cooking will suit people with solar power best, to not over stretch the power inverters ?
Will absolutely get one. Thx. I had never heard of it. In Florida you never want too keep an oven on for very long. Can you cook potatoes in it.?
Why you cannot keep an oven on for very long in Florida? Too hot there?
@@BeatTheBush It's SUMMER for maybe eight months of the year!
Interesting device, what are your thoughts on cooking with microwave as a money saver?
Places 2 Go Travel yea good question!
Places 2 Go Travel dude you basically radiating your food.
I don't like it because the heating is often uneven. Tastes is often not very good to me.
BeatTheBush I find it depends what is being put in microwave. It’s good for reheating things you’ve already cooked but I’m not keen on using it to cook from raw. That said there is no denying it’s a money saver 😎👍❤️
I'm considering buying one if these to keep food hot on day trips.
You can buy them through Home Depot .
@BtB, may we get your thoughts on using a pressure cooker to gain even more efficiency?
Sure. I'll have to get one first. Dang it, now I have to buy more stuff? Argh.
If you can put a heated up pressure cooker into a Thermo, that’ll be really efficient
Hi, have you still got this particular cooker, and how have you been getting on with it?
I realized I don’t use it very much because I eat more pan fried rather than stewed type. Instant pot also help speeds up cooking time with the pressure cooker reducing the need for this. Still, I probably is good for camping when trying to conserve fuel for stews.
I bought the small one off Amazon for $100
1.5 litter size
Just used it for the first time with rice got to broil on stove then put it in pot 3 hours later it was good even after eating some I came back 4 hours later and it was still hot even at the 7-hour Mark even after I already opened up the lid
Nice! Remember to not keep warm for too long as things can go bad.
Is this your only video on thermal cooking?
If you have more can you send me the link
This is it for now.
Thanks for this video. Any conversion tips for making congee using the thermal cooker?
It's great because you wont burn anything like in regular stoves. No many tips needed, you just do the same recipe but put it in the thermal cooker for 2-3 hours.
is it cooking at a very slight gurgle? the reason i ask is i want to know if i can make bone broth it needs to have a slight gurgle going which is below a simmer
I have a pressure cooker (instant pot). I've never heard of thermal cookers. Neat idea.
=D
Never heard such a thing. Thanks for sharing.
=D
Get an electric pressure cooker
Once you get up to pressure it takes very little energy to maintain the pressure. And if you don't fast release pressure you save even more energy. And most IMPORTANT: TIME IS MONEY.
Yes, BTB, I would want 2 of these cookers. Some vegetables you can't cook at the same speed and temperature as the meat.
You can just take the faster cooking stuff out and then let the meat continue cooking with the 2 layers.
That idea works. Plus if I had the second cooker, I could have both vegetables and meat ready to serve and freshly cooked at the same time. Looking at Target stores in my area to see if they have them.
The thumbnail made me think I was looking at some scuffed ice cream for this outrageous heat
LOL
Stupid question, but do you think maybe if you already have an instant pot you could do the same kind of theory with an instant pot?
Start it on the instant pot and close it and unplug it and walk away?
I really want this, but i really don’t want to spend $100 on it if maybe the same kind of theory with an instant pot would work.
What do you think?
Yes but probably not needed as the pressure cooking reduces cooking times greatly. If you don’t use the pressure part I think it retains heat pretty well still but not sure how it compares with this.
@@BeatTheBush thanks! I tried doing it with a pot that retains heat nicely today before I left for work. It worked well because it was sliced pork belly but I still want that thermal cooker 😆
I always use my pressure cooker to cook beans and lentils, one of the best investments I have made in my life. It cooks beans in like half an hour and I don't even have to soak them before cooking them. You can also use it for other things like soup or meat but I have only cooked beans, rice and lentils with it so far.
Nice! I will have to compare the cook times and energy usage of both devices to see how it measures up.
Mark Schmitz do you find not soaking your beans causing, sorry be rude, but gas problems?
Lover's fire I actually never really have gas problems even if I eat a lot of beans, so I can't really tell
Mark Schmitz thank you for replying. I find I have gas problems from unsoaked Beans. I even have to get rid of the cooking water because I'm afraid it may give or cause gas!
Does InstantPot provide the same kind of energy cost savings? Because I've been using it to make delicious dishes out of really cheap cuts of beef at the market (between $2 and $3 a pound) and chicken meat sales (between 60 to 98 cents a pound).
I haven’t heard about this! Great idea. Thank you for letting us know this exists 😊
Yup! Not letting heat escape saves.
i just bought a 1.5 liter one by thermos, as i travel full-time in my camper. heat to boil on propane stove, put in outer thermos, and save a TON of propane, AND letting me use less gas for the camper to go fill up on propane 😀.
the first thing i did was try cooking rice, in the same rice/water ratio as usual- like a charm, but maybe use a little less water next time, as no steam escapes from this thing.
then today i tried cubing some potatoes, adding a couple chopped shallots, some curry, garlic, and hatch chile powder (red), some freeze-dried black beans and corn, and a couple heaping tablespoons of coconut milk powder. brought to boil in water to cover, took off fire and into the thermos crock. then, for good measure here in the american desert southwest, i set the whole thing in the sun for a couple hours, and WOW!
a thermal cooker might just be a camper's best friend.
I have a cruising sailboat with limited energy resources -- thermal cooking will help my situation.
Something like this is very good now when many people are tryinc to reduce their emissions. You could even combine it with solar cooker.
Lots of wasted heat when you cook.
Might buy one of these! can u do more cooking videos please
Sure... I only upload money saving cooking videos on this channel now though. All others will go on my other channel "BeatTheBush DIY"
Great idea....I try to do new stuff but always end up back with the standard method...love you buddy♥️
Huh... back to a cast iron pan?
Haha, yep....side note...girls get rid of iron through menstruation, so that means men should avoid it since it accumulates!
Don't most people do not get enough iron anyway?
BeatTheBush in fact, an overload could be harmful...unless you donate blood, etc... research deeper, BTB if interested😃
Energy = money, saving energy saving money.
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Drumsticks are so cheap at the store. I could not believe it when comparing with other types (wings, breast...)
It's delicious too. =D
Leg quarters are even cheaper!
A lot of useful info buddy. Subscribed!
Thank you! Welcome!
Good job sir
Safe cooking temperature for chicken is 165°f
Several commented on *pressure cookers* (me too) as a time saving alternative, but don't they run *over $100?*
And nowdays they are reportedly easier and safer to use than our grandmother's pressure cookers, which nearly required a boiler operators license. I can still recall my granda firmly commanding, "Stand back. Ita burn ya. "
Hmmm... I guess I have to get one. Let me wait for a sale.
The instant pot usually goes on sale (~30% off) during prime day and black friday
That chicken is RAW
Ion Cross way to under cooked for my taste.
True, the internal temperature on chicken should be 165, but it was only 158
It is completely safe and extremely common to sous vide chicken drumsticks to 158F or 70C. Since the temperature is kept there for an extended period of time, it kills off the bacteria and is safe to eat. This is different from grilling where if the internal temp just reached 158F after 10 mins, it would not be safe to eat.
matthew cheng is correct
C'mon. Don't be rude. Not raw, just not browned. Didn't you see the inside?
Long term cooking are for winter, save energy by using less home heating.
In summer don't do long cooking, why are you doing long cooking in summer anyway, it's hot outside eat something refreshing
Thank you so much for this tip ! :)
=D You're welcome! Yeah, might want a bit more margin in your cooking of chicken. I think I'll probably leave it on the stove 5 more minutes next time.
Camera and lighting look nice! Great improvements lately.
Thanks! Trying. =D
Impressive video, clever man.
Glad you liked it!
You should do an episode of don't buy it for kitchen gadgets like a thermal cooker or a bread maker. Don't buy it, you don't need it. :)
Lol... why would I? I bought them myself and it saves you money if you use it often.
You could replace the chicken with potatoes, 10 lb of potatoes are 1.99 at the 99 cent store, and cabbage instant 50% savings.
Plus a bonus of no animal fat which is the only fat that clogs arteries.
You have a point. I do try to move towards less meat these days. But man, that batch of drumstick is a lot of meat.
That chicken looks like you found a chicken right before you turned the camera on and lopped its leg off
Hey can you make a new vid on your cell phone - I am from UK and I looked at freedom pop and it’s hard to see in any free cell plan long term options
Huh... I guess they don't offer what I use in the UK though.
I absolutely love your channel. One of the most rational men iv come across.
Wait, in a vccum/in space, you can radiate heat im pretty sure. I mean, how does the sun shine heat to us if space can't transfer heat. Im not sure if im out of my element here, lol
Jerome Ley oh yeah! Hmmmm
Good point, however heat is a measure of the average motion of particles in a given area. You cannot transfer heat through space, since there are so few particles in space to transfer the motion. What you can do is propel radiation through space, which is what the sun does. It starts with the fusion of hydrogen into helium, two Hydrogen atoms have more mass than one Helium atom. The remaining mass is released as energy in the form of a photon, which is radiation. A little bonus, that photon takes about 100,000 years for the photon to reach the surface of the sun and than about 8 minutes to reach Earth. If the star has enough mass it will eventually fuse two Helium into one Lithium. This process continues till Iron (FE) which actually has more mass than the two Manganese, that fuse to make it. In other words Iron and above actually cost energy to fuse, unlike the previous elements that have excess energy when fused. So if a star is massive enough to produce Iron, than making that Iron will be its undoing. This may make you wonder how the elements above Iron are produced, that happens in a supernova blast. There are different types of supernova depends on the mass of the star. But the point is the same, elements are shot out with such force that they actually start stripping off the electrons and creating a plasma. Those stripped off electrons are colliding with other elements some of which would be Iron. Those collision are what create the elements above Iron. This is why Uranium is radioactive, since is has too much mass to be stable, it slowly releases excess energy in the form of radiation. This will have a predictable rate, called a half life.
oh, okay xD thanks!
Your welcome, I encourage you to check anything I have said, if you do and find anything to be wrong please tell me. Take it easy.
I suppose heat is radiated out in space through infrared. But at least you do not have atmosphere to transfer the heat.
Is it possible to bbq or grill it first to get the skin looking golden ?
yeah... next time i gotta pan fry it first...
T-Rex looks all ready to cook some peas...
=D I'm sure they're just playing. I think.
Where did you get the chicken from?
Local supermarket.
Try to use a bigger package of spices like one kilo its cheap according to 5 grams which you buy everyday
Buy in bulk!
doing it sometime later
Make "onsen tamago" using it, sell it for profit.
That's a great idea! I don't know about the business aspect, but I would like them for myself. There's a Japanese plastic gadget that does exactly this, it's the same kind of machine just made of plastic. I got one and the instructions were entirely in Japanese, so I may have missed some fine points.
How about the "Instant Pot" preasure cooker?
I'll have to get one from all the comments, lol.
Good Idea BTB!
Thanks!
what about ham hocks?
I like them.
That might be a good use! Mmmmm maybe they'll get tender and make some good stock! Good idea.
It should be 165 degrees or higher!
=D
Can you do a video on how to prepare for a recession?
It seems like what I am doing already seems like it lol.
I can already tell ppl are gonna complain that the chicken is "pink". That is not the pink you are looking for. You could cook your chicken to 180 and it would still be like that. You gotta look for the translucent bright pink. See the raw chicken for reference. 158 is okay
Lol... yeah, it was a bit pink due to the duration it was cooked.
So you have to cook a 1000 hours in order to get your return on investment? But that's not even including the amount of power needed to heat the thermal cooker itself.
ROI excludes the initial heating. Time in the thermal cooker is time reduced on the stove. So it may take 4+ months of usage but it's certainly faster ROI than solar panels of 20 years.
It costs $51.42 with the link you provide, according to your $.05 of savings per hour. You would need to cook for over 1000 hours to gain your money back. What I'm saying is that if you were to cook using the thermal cooker you still need to use money to heat it in the first place. Therefore adding into the cost, so the savings is actually less than originally stated. Also why did you bring up a ROI of solar panels? Obviously it's less than 20 years to recoup your money, but to buy it specifically with the goal of savings is a bit ridiculous.
Yup. It's the cooking time not used. So if cooking the thing takes 1hr 20 minutes normally, you have to heat it 20 minutes initially. Then you save 1 hour.
Where you get into trouble on solar panels is that your property tax goes up and will not go down even after removing the system. Even if you were to call for a reassessment, most likely the taxes will still go up due to rising housing prices.. that has been my experience in California... think Proposition 13.
I use $14 a month for conventional cooking. With the thermal pot my gas usage as dropped to $7 a month. In 7 months the thermal pot has paid for itself and it should last many, many years after that. I like my thermal pot so much that I bought a second one.
I have an Instant Pot. I wonder how much it costs to run it every time. No idea. 😂
That shall be found out soon.
Oh, the anticipation is killing me. 😂
That chicken looked cooked to me lol. It just doesn't have that grilled or fried color to it... because i mean... why would it?? It was done in a thermal cooker.
It's these on the edge stuff that keeps people commenting, lol.
Great stuff, I use it too :)
=D
That really looks delicious 🍗🍗🍗🍗🍗 !
According to this video "The Energy Detective - amazing energy efficient slow cooker" an electric pressure cooker would use about twice the energy as the thermal cooker.
Sounds about right. But I find after a lot of use that thermal cooking only is good for 1.5 hour or so before the temperature lowers too much. Helps to have it as full as possible for most thermal mass.
it's cooked enough :3
could do a little bit more for most peeps I guess.
You are half right in ur cooking method, you first need to make grill marks / or sear the outside ( for crispy outside, for both veggies and meat) , caramelized the sugars in your product.... always, if not you rob ur self on tastiness 😁
Perhaps I need to pretty grill them first, there's always next time to perfect it. =D
This might be a bit risky, but I let my chicken/meats come up to room temperature before sticking them in the oven. It seems to cook in the center uniformly with the outside. Very cold chicken will lag behind in the center while the outside gets overdone.
Oh yeah... bacteria grow so then is it safe to kill the bacteria again in the oven? I don't know.
Much healthier to eat at home, so it's a win-win deal. Good for you!
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I accidentally bought this from chinese store, i thought it was a slow cooker, but it turned out to be without electricity 😂 But this was probably better idea now im going to jse my solar to heat the water than add in this to save energy.
I love your cooking videos. And i was wondering about getting a hot pot (thermal cooker). Now i have another reason to get one! Thank you BtB :o)
=D It just like the idea of turning off the stove and going about my day to come back being still hot.
I mean come on 50 cents lol. Although for food banks this may save a lot over time.
It's about adopting methods that saves a little with each use. Use this for 10 year. Bam, $1000.
Brown your chicken first and it will start at a higher heat and look more appetizing
I know I know... I could've done a better job. Next time!
I know what he did wrong. He needs to add more water to fill the chicken. That’s how a thermal cooker work. And he left it quite short. Normally they recommended to leave it at least 4 - 5 hrs though.
Hmmmm yeah, could use a little tweaking in the recipe.
I like how you save money in so many ways. It's great to see examples of saving on food. Thank you!!
It's great. The many ways adds up to incredibly low burn rate. Essential if you want to easily quit your job. =D
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Million isn't enough to retire these days.
Curious....Why would you need 2 thermal cookers?? Don't you live alone?
Two dishes.
Wait until you discover a pressure cooker!
Fine. I'll go get one just for UA-cam, lol.
Feed The Bush
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save money on cooking
lose money by getting sick from eating raw food
I'm fine.
You might be fine now. By I am not sure ifs fine down the road if you get sick. I would rather save money elsewhere.
Lmao
its perfectly cooked. No need to overcook it out till show white
@@BeatTheBush I hope you can stand all these e-diots, any post about food really brings out the worst comments. It looks like dozens of people are being a little unhinged by looking at some food that wasn't fried? Hasn't anyone ever seen anything just STEAMED on a plate? Food isn't always browned when it's cooked!!!! And what if you were trying to make STOCK, or good old CHICKEN SOUP?
You should invest in a pressure cooker.
Sure... I should give that a try.
Pressure cookers are still God.
Cheaper and more energy efficient!
Beans and grains hella cheap!
=D They are indeed. I need to do a comparison.
I've used pressure cookers for years. The old stories about exploding pressure cookers are what keep many people from buying them, but they have little valves in the lid that will blow if the pressure gets too high due to a clog. I have never had a problem. Cuts cooking time to minutes, and will tenderize the toughest piece of meat, while keeping in all the flavor and moistness. Mine lost it's seal, and I couldn't replace it. I really need to get another one. I miss it.
I use a pressure cooker for beans, as soon as it's up to pressure it's placed in a thermal bag and in 3 hours the beans are soft and tender. If the beans are old, it will need a second time through, but a lot of energy is saved by combining the two.
Go plant base, meat is the most expensive part of a meal.
Grow microgreens, a pack of flax seeds from the dollar store or the 99 cent store yields only pennies per serving.
Agreed.
you should compare this with a pressure cooker. Same recipes two different methods. Get a power meter and clap it to your stove's power cord.
Chicken at dangerous temperature! Brown chicken first, bringing it to a simmer with veggies after. Also, 20 minute simmer is a minimum. 25 to 30 minutes would be safer. I use Shuttle Chef which holds heat way better and would never do less than 30 minutes with chicken. It is just too dangerous!
Took the temp actually, it was fine. A little close so probably slightly longer next time.
You should have seasoned the chicken before you put it in the pot
I should've but then I got lazy.
Chicken is 165° or greater
Agreed
The problem its that its very hard to eat the same meal (in this case chicken) for 7 straight meals :)
Freezing some would help.
I knew a single mom w 6 kids who would cook for 2 days straight when her assistance check came in. She would freeze everything. When she would come in from work, dinner was ready in 20 minutes. She married a widower who also had 6 kids and she ran that house like a Swiss watch. Cooking and freezing saves time and money. Managing a freezer is a skill that few possess.. as illustrated by several chest freezers I have seen at the San Mateo Home Depot for $150 at closeout prices because no one buys them. Food is primarily to keep us healthy, not entertain us.. we are just spoiled and demand variety.
Lol... I do like to switch between at least a few things. I used to require eating something different every meal. Now I can eat it 2-3 times in a row or more depending on how good it is.
Eating the same meal 7 times, is a great way to lose weight. When I'm tired of the same old thing, it then becomes 8 or 9 meals :-)
@@obsoleteprofessor2034 Are you sure you aren't talking about the movie "Cheaper by the Dozen"?