It takes a great Theologian like you Dr. Pitre to explain the whole passage and all in the Holy Bible. Thank you so much, you are a God sent. May God bless you always.
Matthew 28:18-19 "And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth." "Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
“The Lord was baptized, not to be cleansed Himself, but to cleanse the waters, so that those waters, cleansed by the flesh of Christ, which knew no sin, might have the power of baptism.” St. Ambrose
now way. Simply not true. John was baptizing people before and after Christ was baptized. Baptism simply is identification. In the Old testament people were baptized to identify with the Jews. John Baptized to identify people with the coming Messiah, and we are baptized to identify with the death of Christ. Baptism does nothing more than identify true Christians, it saves no one. That is why Paul the Apostle did not baptize, and even said that Christ sent him not to baptize but preach the Gospel, because only believing the Gospel saves.
@@levymanlapig8970 Levy, could you show me anywhere in scripture where it teaches that the Gospel is all the commands and precepts of scripture. In Galatians the people simply added circumcision to the Gospel, and Paul told them that they were removed from the Gospel and if any man or angel preach this to you let them be anathema, that is damned. and that was for simply adding one commandment.
@@FBCTrona First, please be informed that I am not a bible expert or scholar, and whatever I write or say is merely to share my thoughts or beliefs as a Catholic Christian. You seem to have misread or misunderstood me... I did not say "the Gospel is all the commands and precepts of scripture", rather "the gospel of Christ is comprised of all His teachings, commands, principles, and doctrines set forth in the synoptic gospels ..." (which are in the N.T.). The terms Scripture(s) and Bible are synonymous --- that is, referring to the O.T. & N.T. --- and to say "all the commands and precepts of scripture" would therefore include all the Jewish religious and cultural practices/traditions, or the Mosaic Laws. We have no issue, I believe, that Christ detests various Jewish religious and cultural traditions/practices that are either contrary to His moral teachings/commands, or that of the Father. Among those are the thorough washing of hands before eating for "purification", and circumcision (as you mentioned) for "salvation". Peace ...
For Catholics, being "born again" occurs at baptism. Look at Acts 19:1-7, the men were baptized in water and also received the Holy Spirit at the SAME TIME.
@@FBCTrona The group of Gentiles were baptized immediately after the Spirit came upon them. The reason that the Spirit came upon them prior to baptism is found in Acts 11:17-18. God gave them the Spirit before baptism to show that the Gentiles were being brought into the saving work of Christ.
@@morelmaster Thanks John, but it does not fit. God could never be in a man unless that man has been imputed with the righteousness of God. You find the same thing in Acts 2 where the believers received the Holy Spirit then later were baptized and added to the church. The Old Testament Saint never had the indwelling Holy Spirit because they never could be made perfectly righteous, so the Holy Spirit could "Come upon them" but never in them, nor reside in them. But one thing you are right on, they were given tongues so Peter could witness it and the Jews knew the gentiles were now part of the church. Paul the apostle said the only thing he cared about was that whether Christ was in you or not I Cor. 2:2, yet in I Cor. 1:17 Paul made it clear that he was not sent by Christ to baptize. Jesus said the same, and Baptized only his disciples. Did these men not care for the salvation of others?
@@morelmaster Exactly. Actually its more like babies are being baptized. Church believes for them during their baptism. Same way Saint Peter and the apostles (the church) believed among those gentiles. As a result circumcision of theirs hearts happened (Acts 2 : 37). And later on baptism.
I got. Baptized in J E S U S. N A M E in south korea. United. Pentecostal church i received. The holy ghost baptism of fire and spoke in. New tongues. In 1971. my new birth experience. John 3:3-6. By total. Immersion no.sprinkling buried with christ
Why do everyone who have "Jesus preached unto them" IMMEDIATELY get baptized? Paul, the eunuch, the prison guard? "Look! Here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?"-The Ethiopian eunuch upon "having Jesus preached unto him." I know why! "For as many of you as have been baptized have put on Christ." "Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death?" "For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life."
Ave Christus Rex Jesus said that he that believes and is baptized will be saved saved Mark 16:16.. The first commandment that Jesus gave us was to be baptized. When St. Peter gave us the keys of the kingdom in Acts 2:38.. and those who accepted Peter’s word were baptized and that day about 3000 were baptized..only believers are baptized and baptism always followed immediately after repentance being filled with the Holy Spirit. Babies were never baptized. In baptism the Holy Spirit baptizes us into Jesus body ,His church 1 Corinthians 12:13.This baptism is a legal transaction where we are joined to Jesus in Jesus death,burial and resurrection and are now seated with Jesus in heavenly places. Anyone who refuses to do the first commandment of Jesus how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12..Lots of fellowships treat baptism as a ritual or symbolic but like the Lords Supper we are participating in the Lords body Romans 6:2 Colossians 3:1-3
prairie mark thanks Mark The requirement in god’s word for baptism is believing. Acts 8:37 and 16:31-33 Mark 16:16. Babies are only dedicated into different denominations like Protestants and Catholics etc. Jesus said that he that believes and is baptized will be saved. Baptism always followed immediately after believing and is always full immersion. and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Renewing your mind will help you become a disciple of Jesus Christ while making other disciples of Jesus Christ. Go for it Mark, what’s hindering you.
prairie mark anyone who refuses to do Jesus first commandment how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12. The 3000 who heard Peters sermon had no problem going to the waters of baptism in Acts 2:40 -41. Saint Peter commanded all those who believed in Cornelius house to be baptized into Jesus. Acts 10:48. Your next step is to be baptized into Jesus body by someone who knows what baptism is about. Romans 6;2-6 Colossians 3:1. The Holy Spirit will use other believers to baptize you in the one body 1 Corinthians 12:13.Why are you waiting.? Acts 22:16. Acts 16:31-33
prairie mark babies haven’t the capacity to make choices.. If we can baptize babies then all we would have to do is sprinkle water on people as they pass by. We could get a good strategic position where lots were passing and sprinkle them.without any commitment.?
"were saved by water ... Baptism now saves, you also: not by the removal of filth from the flesh, but in the appeal for a clear conscience before God by the [power] of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead." The Apostle Peter, head of the Church of Jesus Christ.
False explenation: as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe on Christ as Lord and Saviour. This man is trying to say that the water here is baptism... if that is si, then why does Jesus so clearly say that the water represents the fleshly birth, and it must come first. Vs. 6. and yes the Bible clearly teaches that a person is saved by simply by faith from the heart believing the Gospel Romans 10:9-10, 13 , John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:47, Romans 4:5, Acts 13:39 . A person cannot do one thing for their salvation accept repent and believe, notice this is made clear in Scripture... Romans 3:20, 28, Galations 2:16, Titus 3:5. Friend this is important, because if you believe that Baptism or any work of man can lead to your salvation you have rejected the Gospel, and are forever lost. Remember that the bible say that the way to hell is broad and many go in thereat. Religion has always taught that a man must do and be good to enter heaven, but the Bible certainly does not preach that.
carlos thanks for your reply. Actualy this was one doctrine that Luther never changed. Luther believed in Baptismal regeneration his entire life, and never became a born again believer. You mentioned two scriptures, One in James where James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17,20,26) Please read the entire chapter and you will notice that he is not speaking before God, but before men (Vs. 18). A man who is saved by faithcan not show his salvation by showing his faith, he can only prove to men that he has put his faith in Christ by showing that salvation has changed his life. Paul made it clear that when a man comes to Christ "old things are passed away, behold all things are become new." (II Corinthians 5:17) If he never shows that he is new,, it never shows in his lifestayle, then James declares that his faith was dead, in other words he may say he had faith in Christ, but it was a lie. A true christian with Christ in his life will have a new life, if not, then he never got saved to begin with. Also Paul says faith without charity as well (I Cor. 13). If you look at Romans 5:5 you will see that when a person comes to Christ by faith they are given as a gift the Love of Christ. John wrote in I John 3 that if a man does not have this love than he is not saved and abides in Darkness. But what Paul is mentioning in I Cor. 13 is dealing with the misuse of spiritual gifts for personal reasons. and the word Charity (Agape in the greek) simply means love, and Paul says none of my good works, or my faith matters if I do not have love for the brethren. Please carry on the conversation.
@@FBCTrona James said we are justified by works, no matter how you try to talk that away. In Romans 2, St. Paul says that eternal life is reward for works. Matthew 12 says by our words will we be judged (what we say, as opposed to just what we believe). Matthew 25 says those who don't feed the poor will be in trouble. I know there are verses that also talk about faith, but you have to ignore a bunch of verses to believe what you believe. St. Paul even says that both faith and works without love are nothing, so arguably he might say this faith alone/faith and works debate is misleading.
@@paulmiller3469 Thanks for your reply Paul. First when a Person is saved, they are redeemed the Bible says, it also says they are made righteous. The word Justified in the scripture means two things, for one to be imputed with Righteousness, and it also means to render or to Judge one righteous. Both are used in the passage you refer to. Notice James 2:21, and then notice vs. 23. This is exactly what Paul taught, that Abraham was saved by Faith, and nothing done in his flesh, that is works only makes you a debter and thus put under judgement and damned. Read Romans 4:1-5 . When james said that abraham was justified by offering his son, then you would have to either admit that a person is saved by Sacraficing their son, or it is something else. James whole argument is to be a doer of God's word James 1:23-25. as For the Mathew 12 and 25 I have no problem with, for Jesus is speaking of who a true disciple is. A Christian is saved by faith alone, but if his life does not change then Paul taught that his faith was not real, and thus he is not saved. The verses you pick are a cunundrum for the catholic church witch in official Catholic Dogma, James j. Mcgovern 1909 stated on page 327 under salvation that a catholic is saved by the sacraments of baptism, and maintained by the sacrament of communion. What you are telling me is something different, your saying a person is saved by good deeds like wholsome words, feeding the poor, and offering your son. Bit confusing. Hope we can keep the dialogue going.
@@FBCTrona Sorry, but that just sounds like a bunch of protester babble (and I used to be Protestant). We are saved by grace, but it's a covenant and we have to do our part. We have to forgive others, don't judge others, perform corporal works of mercy, consume the Eucharist, etc. I know your arguments, but what impressed me was looking at evidence of what the early Church understood. The apostles lived with Jesus for three years (where you and I can read a single Gospel in, what, a couple hours?), and they taught the next generation what they understood. That teaching doesn't seem to match up well with what you are saying.
Alex Lielbardis The born again was given by Jesus in John 3:3 Unless you are born again you will not see nor enter the kingdom of God. Being born again is that you have repented from your sins and turned to Jesus to receive your free gift forgiveness and salvation and eternal life.We all need a savior or else we will perish. The only way into the kingdom is by calling on Jesus directly with all your heart and Jesus then snatches you from darkness to light Colossians 1:13. St. Paul called on Jesus and received his free gift of salvation and forgiveness acts 9:14-21.. Mary called on Jesus and received her free gift of salvation Luke 1:46-48. My soul magnifies the lord and my spirit rejoices in God my savior. Who was Jesus savior? Jesus is the only savior of the world.John 14:6 Call on Jesus and have eternal life John 3:16.
Sean please listen to this...he explains those scriptures you quoted have to be read in context! He clarifies again being born again means you must born of water AND spirit you cannot be born again. This is at baptism! It’s not simply an outward sign but rather a spiritual rebirth and given new life and becomes a new creation in Christ.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 This is from my blog article: In the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus, our Lord says to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (Jn 3:3). The Greek phrase often translated “born again” (γεννηθῇ ἄνωθεν or gennatha anothen in the English transliteration) also occurs in V.7 in which Jesus says, “Do not marvel that I said to you, “You must be born again.” The Greek word anothen sometimes can be translated “again,” but in the New Testament, it most often means “from above” or “from heaven” (cf. Jn 3:31). In the King James Version, which I am using, the only two times it is translated “again” are in John 3:3 and 3:7. Every other time it is given a different rendering. However, we have our mental equivalent in Vv.5-6, in which Jesus says, ““Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Now, in V.3, our Lord declares that one must be “born again” to enter the kingdom of God, while in V.5 he reiterates more clearly that one must be “born of water and spirit” to enter the kingdom of God. Thus, the expression “born again” refers to the sacrament of baptism in water and Spirit which is salvific. One who is born or reborn “of Spirit” is born “from above” or “from heaven.” Jesus does say on another occasion, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mk 16:16). One cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless they are saved, and this requires not only belief in Jesus but also the sacrament of initiation that washes away the stain of original sin and marks the new life in the Spirit. From Early sacred tradition: ” ‘And dipped himself,’ says [the Scripture], ‘seven times in Jordan.’ It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but it served as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions; being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.’” St. Irenaeus, Fragment, 34 (A.D. 190) “[W]hen they come to us and to the Church which is one, ought to be baptized, for the reason that it is a small matter to ‘lay hands on them that they may receive the Holy Ghost,’ unless they receive also the baptism of the Church. For then finally can they be fully sanctified, and be the sons of God, if they be born of each sacrament; since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water, and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’…[O]nly baptism of the Holy Church, by divine regeneration, for the kingdom of God, may be born of both sacraments, because it is written, ‘Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’” St. Cyprian of Carthage, To Stephen, 71:72 (A.D. 253) Etc. allaboutcatholicism.com/2020/10/11/baptism-being-born-again/
@@alexchristopher221 Thanks for your response. I’ve subscribed to your UA-cam channel and now subscribe to my channel in Jesus name.Have you been baptized since you believed. He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Only believers are baptized and is always full immersion into water into Christ Jesus Babies are never baptized as they cannot make this big decision yet.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Once a child attains the age of moral reasoning while having been nurtured in the Christian faith at home and in the Church, they can decide for themselves whether to live up to their baptismal commitments and persevere in faith. These life-long baptismal commitments also apply to people who have been baptized in adulthood. One isn’t automatically and irrevocably saved just by being baptized and consciously making an initial profession of faith. The important thing for the infant or any human being is that they receive the initial grace of justification and forgiveness for being implicated in the sin of Adam and becoming a partaker of the divine nature through the water of cleansing and regeneration in the Spirit. In Judaism, the ritual of circumcision ( Heb. בְּרִית מִילָה / brit milah) is a symbol of one’s partnership with God. This partnership with YWHW is a mysterious covenant that surpasses human comprehension. It is a pledge of unconditional devotion, no matter what may transpire between God and an individual. It is a bond that is absolute and immutable. For this reason, a Jew is circumcised as an infant, although it hasn’t yet developed its capacity for reasoning or making moral judgments since the covenant of circumcision is not an intellectual or calculated partnership. The circumcision of an infant demonstrates that the connection between the Jews and YHWH is beyond human rationale. Baptism proceeds from the rite of circumcision, as to how God intended that a spiritual circumcision must take place which the physical aspect of circumcision represented in the Old Covenant. Baptism, therefore, is a sign of inward, spiritual “circumcision.” Baptism is a rebirth to a new life with God and being reborn from above. Although circumcision isn’t a sacrament but a symbolic ritual in Judaism, there are significant parallels between the two that show how baptism fulfills circumcision, as the Old Covenant finds its fulfillment in the New that has been established by Christ through the outpouring of his blood. St. Paul points out that baptism has replaced circumcision. He refers to the sacrament as “the circumcision of Christ” and “the circumcision made without hands” (Col 2:11-12). The latter reference recalls the passage above taken from the Book of Deuteronomy which refers to the physical ritual as essentially being a circumcision of the heart of all the Israelites including the circumcised male infants who will eventually grow into manhood expected to abide by God’s covenant. When a Jewish boy reaches the age of thirteen, the family celebrates his Bar Mitzvah, on which occasion he is regarded as ready to observe religious moral precepts and eligible to participate in public worship at the synagogue. The boy’s father offers a prayer of thanksgiving to God for relieving him of being morally responsible for his son’s actions, because he is primarily held accountable for the boy’s religious and spiritual nurturing until he has reached adolescence. This same principle holds in the Catholic faith with respect to baptizing infants. Infant baptism has its roots in Judaism and is an ecclesial tradition handed down to us from the apostles who themselves were Jewish. Anyway, if the nascent Church didn’t practice infant baptism, we should doubt whether Paul would have used the rite of circumcision as a parallel for the sacrament. Further, we read in the New Testament that Lydia was baptized with her “household” after she converted (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer who was converted by Paul and Silas was baptized that same night along with his household. In fact, he was baptized “with all his family” (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the church in Corinth, Paul writes, “I did baptize also the household of Stephanus” (1 Cor 1:16). In the above passages, Paul uses the Greek word oikon (οἶκον) for the English word “household.” This accusative masculine singular noun literally means “a dwelling” and by implication “a family.” If children weren’t part of these families, Paul could have simply written that “she and her husband” or “he and his wife” were baptized. Nor would it make sense for him to have used the all-inclusive word "household" or "family" if all children weren't included as members. The New Testament (Covenant) Church and the Early Church practiced infant baptism. For He came to save all through means of Himself-all, I say, who through Him are born again to God-infants, and children, and boys, and youths, and old men.” St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 2,22:4 (A.D. 180) allaboutcatholicism.com/2020/09/30/infant-baptism/
This one is likely going to be an active discussion, because trying to convince protesters that 'born again' may mean something other than how they understand it could threaten their whole (false) paradigm. The only things that are bigger, from what I've seen, are faith alone and scripture alone (though the latter might be in the early stages of evolving out of a lot of Protestant thinking, so maybe just faith alone).
I will join that active discussion, because as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe on Christ as Lord and Saviour. This man is trying to say that the water here is baptism... if that is si, then why does Jesus so clearly say that the water represents the fleshly birth, and it must come first. Vs. 6. and yes the Bible clearly teaches that a person is saved by simply by faith from the heart believing the Gospel Romans 10:9-10, 13 , John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:47, Romans 4:5, Acts 13:39 . A person cannot do one thing for their salvation accept repent and believe, notice this is made clear in Scripture... Romans 3:20, 28, Galations 2:16, Titus 3:5. Friend this is important, because if you believe that Baptism or any work of man can lead to your salvation you have rejected the Gospel, and are forever lost. Remember that the bible say that the way to hell is broad and many go in thereat. Religion has always taught that a man must do and be good to enter heaven, but the Bible certainly does not preach that.
@@FBCTrona '...as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe...' Actually most Christians don't believe that (1.2 billion Catholics, 400 million Orthodox don't), so your comment contains error in the first sentence..
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@@paulmiller3469 Was the repentent thief on the cross saved? I doubt he was baptized.
@ I'm sorry, Matthew, if that came across as short. It's just that we seem to keep getting the same questions over and over... Alright, first, the Romans didn't crucify thieves. And not every execution was a crucifixion. As far as I know, that was reserved for revolutionaries (now does the conversation between the high priest and governor make more sense?). Second, I don't know if anyone crucified with Jesus was baptized or not. Not my business. We tend not to worry about figuring out the formula so much, and leave judgment to the Judge.
Baptism is the circumcision of Christ. Just as a Jew would circumcise someone to enter into the Covenant of God in the Old Testament - including babies, so too the baptism of the new Covenant is given to babies as well and to everyone who needs to be baptized to enter the New Covenant of God.
Protestant defence. First and foremost unity in Christ is important. And I think Brant Pitre is an excellent scholar and teacher. Up there with NT Wright and the best of them. 1.Context is important to all believers 2. Context of 'children' seems to be pretty plainly talking about generations not infants. 3. Why would an Infant not experiencing any sin yet need forgiveness of sins? Sin is only sin if it's knowledge of sin. An infant is unaware of sin in mind. It's also rejects the choice of the individual/free will which is a gift of God given us to choose Him rather than him forcing himself on us.
We are born with a fallen nature, a nature that is separated from God as a result of Adam’s sin (original sin, not personal sin as would occur when we reach the age of reason). We are not born in a state of holiness. We are born in a state of original sin. We have to be born again to become joined to God, to be in Christ, to become a member of the body of Christ, to be saved. We are born of Adam’s body into condemnation. We are born of Christ’s body unto salvation. In the Gospel of John, Jesus says, “Unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). In verse 5 he repeats himself: “Unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” In other words, being born again is the same thing as being born of water and the Spirit, and it is a necessary condition for entering the kingdom of God. Jesus is saying that a man must be born of water and the Spirit-in other words, he must be baptized. The Bible tells us that you cannot enter the kingdom of God if you are not baptized. “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). The Bible says that which is born of the flesh is flesh. Not only that, but “it is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail” (John 6:63). Now, when a child is born, it is born into the flesh. But the Bible tells us that the flesh is of no avail because of the consequences of original sin. That’s why Jesus says we have to be born again. The first birth is birth of the flesh, but we need something more in order to have life. When we are baptized we put on Christ (cf. Gal. 3:27). We are buried with him in baptism (Rom. 6:4). We become members of the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13). We receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). We become a new creation in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17). Adam is the representative of the flesh. Christ is the representative of the Spirit. When we are born physically, born into the flesh, we are in Adam. When we are baptized-when we are born again, when we are born of the Spirit-we are in Christ. Infants need to be baptized, just like anyone else, so that they can be “in Christ,” so that they can put on Christ, so that they can become children of God, so that they can become members of the body of Christ, so that they can be granted eternal life. To clarify, an adult is not to be baptized without having first repented. The normal process for an adult would be to believe, repent, and then be baptized. “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him.” Acts 2:38-39 Since Peter was speaking to adults in the passage quoted above, he said “repent and be baptized.” The Bible nowhere says baptism is to be restricted to adults. Again, the people whose baptisms we read about in the New Testament are adults, because they were converted as adults. This makes sense, because Christianity was just beginning-there were no “cradle Christians.” Hope this helps! God bless you!
It's verily, verily I say unto you, not amen, amen I say unto you... but satan's children don't change the word of God... do you... your father's time is but a short time so enjoy while you can....
Amen Brother. So many miss this and are caught up in perverted or distorted theology. There is no “praying Jesus into your heart” for salvation in the Bible. Faith is a verb. By faith we are saved. They were baptizing before nicodemus and after nicodemus in John too. Context. Belief leads to action/faith. “Shall” is a future tense word. If one (truly) believes he shall...ask what do and then “do” to be saved. One then does what the scripture says to do. It’s straightforward. We hear, we believe, we start repent, we confess, we ask what shall I do to be saved, we do what the Bible says to do for salvation, etc. Acts 2 :38. It’s a lot of work yet some are convinced there is no work/action/verb/faith in the process. Inward faith with outward confession... sounds so wrong. Sounds like someone wants to “hide it under a bushel” Good stuff.. In Him, George
Catholic and all christian should be united for we all read the same bible and we all believe that Jesus died for our sins. Its just a matter of how you interfret your understanding towards the bible. I absolutely not against to any other form of christianity.
It seems odd OT precursors to Christian baptism and John's baptism of Jesus and others aren't mentioned. But maybe this video is just part of a longer talk?
@prairie mark I’m teaching a group in a baptist church and for all their insistence on grace through faith, if I ask what you need to do to be saved, I get a litany of steps that must be completed before you are saved. No. Jesus already did the work. All you need to do is believe.
@@vinciblegaming6817 Of course belief leads to action. We can see that among Christians just like we see it among atheist social justice warriors and communists whose actions are motivated by non-Christian beliefs.
Literally every existing Christian church believes in baptism. Can we talk about the rest of the churches believe in not praying in reparative prayers? Or praying to golden alters... or turning the chambers into a market, or praying to anything other than God?
Are you serious? If a person can be saved by water then why did Jesus die on the cross? Sorry my friend, you got the wrong liquid. Only the blood of Jesus can save a soul from hell. Why are you telling people that water will save them? The faith in Jesus is what saves them not the dunking in water. They wouldn't get baptised in the name of Jesus if they didn't have faith in him. Ephesians 2, 8&9.... For by Grace you are saved by faith and not of yourselves, it is a gift from God and not of works lest any man should boast. I was a catholic for many years. I was living in sin on my way to hell. Thank God I got out of the Catholic Church and am now saved the genuine way by the truth. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Nobody comes unto the father but by him. Answer my question....Why did Jesus die on the cross?
it is Jesus Christ who commissioned not just immerse in water but baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit refer mt 28:19 water baptism symbolizes your acceptance that you are dead to sin with Jesus Christ and alive with Jesus Christ
@Simon Sammut Rom 6:3-5: "Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his."
Nice teaching, crappy Tabernacle behind him though. The parish should have no heat, lights, or air conditioning, and remove the pews, let them stand and kneel on the floor, and make sure there are no restrooms, parking lots, or windows. They should do that to ensure that the quality of all the facilities for the people do not exceed the quality of the facility they provide for the King. A nice cold ugly empty box for everybody.
Jesus left us a church not a book. The bible was put together 300 years after Jesus resurrection by the Catholic Church. The church is the pillar of truth says the bible. St. Paul says we follow the tradition not the human tradition but sacred one. Nowhere in the Bible says all that we believe is only in the Bible. St John says if everything Jesus did and said would be written there wouldn't be enough books to write it.
I wonder why Peter is always placed first in the list of apostles (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13 etc...), we even sometimes see that they ( the apostles ) dissociate his name from the group of apostles and call him only by name and don't include it in the group, as if he wasn't an apostle, as if he was their chef like Michael although being an angel himself is named being "with his angels" ( we can see it for example in Mark 16:7; Luke 9:32 etc... but and especially in 1 Cor 9:5 "Have we no right to lead about a wife that is a believer, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brethren of the Lord, *and Cephas?"* I ask: So Saint Peter wasn't a disciple? ). It was not by chance that they named Peter that way, it was due to his position.
James M just look at St. Peter’s first sermon where he gave us the keys to the kingdom in Acts 2:38. Repentance from serving sins and the world and turning to Jesus and being baptized into Jesus and being filled with the Holy Spirit. All 3000 gladly went into the waters of baptism and were filled with the Holy Spirit.Babies were never baptized but believers only. The early believers were simply Jews who believed in their messiah Jesus and were baptized into the body of Christ immediately and baptism is always full immersion
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 well, the verses on HOUSEHOLD have been explained well. Ask yourself this question: if you have a baby, will you in your all might give the best for him/her? Now, do you believe Jesus is the best thing for you as a christian? No? Yes? If yes, wont you want to give your baby the best thing that is Jesus thru the baptism? Remember, Jesus was "baptized" thru Jewish rite of circumcission (a sign of covenant with YAHWeh) when he was 8 days old. Eight days old! Every parents want to give the best for the children, including babies n infants who cannot make a decision on their own, but as far as Jesus Christ, the true christian parents know, jesus is the best for their babies and infants.
James M thanks for your response. Yes you’re right every parent wants the best for their children. We all desire our children saved and following Jesus. That’s why we bring them up in the way of the Lord and teaching them all things concerning the gospel. In spite of how we teach our children some will not follow Jesus. The decision to follow Jesus is a personal decision. We are all born into this world of into the kingdom of darkness and we all need to make a decision for Jesus. Saint Peter tells us all to repent or change and to be baptized into Christ Jesus and to be filled with the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38. We all need to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and brought into Jesus kingdom of love Colossians 1:13. Weeks all need to do business directly with Jesus by calling on Jesus directly to save us and forgive us of all our sins past, present and future sins and ask Jesus to fill you then with His Holy Spirit after we’re cleansed of all sins. Jesus died for the sins of the entire world 2000 years ago on Calvary. Call on Jesus right now and be forgiven of all sins and be baptized into Christ Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit. Babies are never baptized but believers only. Babies are dedicated to Jesus and all need to make a conscious decision to follow Jesus. All babies go to heaven and when mature all need to make a decision for Jesus Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus receives eternal life Romans 10:9-14. John 3;16 John 3:36. Call on Jesus right now and have Paradise Luke 23:34-44 Acts 16:31-33
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 well, certainly you have your right to intepret what household means. To me, and to all catholics, our households include infants. And we give them the best from the beginning. The baptism will be something very valuable no matter what they choose when they are able to choose on their own. We cannot control life. We dont know one will die. It's safe to be bsptized fisrt.
Hello Dr. Petre, John The Baptist was Grandfathered into the New Testament. John was Baptized while in the womb (water) of Elizabeth. When Mary Mother of Jesus met Elizabeth John (leaped), this is when He was baptized. Therefore, Jesus was officially baptized with The Holy Spirit as were all the others, not just with a symbol of water. John had already obtained The Blessing and his sins of past generations washed away. John is not given full credit, but does not care, his job was Done. Lorenzo Ricardo Zabala 🕊️🖖🙏💒
@@sleepystar1638 There has been theology schoolers who said yes. So many throughout history who butt such concepts based on circumstantial evidence do so cause don't have much critical thinking ability or simply don't get it. Just like Jesus told Peter that he got the idea due to help of The Holy Spirit and so goes the rest of the story. So many just can't see out of the box even PhDs who have knowledge but lacking in wisdom.
@@rickzabala6020 its about seeing what God wants us to see, Baptism requires matter, form, and intention. John Baptism is the Baptism of repentance not of Salvation.
Jesus said you must be born from ABOVE or from Heaven. That's literally what the Greek says. This is not done by immersion in water its done by immersion IN CHRIST. Baptism is a ritual and is not required for salvation and is not how we are "born again." You are born from above through the Spirit by grace through faith when you believe and trust in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I don't know what happened to my first response or why its not showing up but here it is again. Just like the devil trying to conceal truth... John 3:3 NIV Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” ανωθεν (anōthen) - above; a higher place (in other words not from water below) Colossians 2:12 Having been BURIED WITH HIM in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized INTO CHRIST have put on Christ. Romans 6:3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized INTO CHRIST Jesus were baptized into his death? 1 Cor. 6:11 11 And (A)such were some of you. But (B)you were washed, (C)you were sanctified, (D)you were justified IN THE NAME of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Ephesians 1:13 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, Ephesians 2:4-5 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved. Ephesians 2:8 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
Nothing to do with being baptized into the papal system. This scripture he mentions is not from western theology. How you know Nicodemus thought same as you
Read in gospel of john chapter 9: 1-2. About the man born blind. Observe the disciples 2 questions, and jesus total rejection of original sin from Adam.
Mark 16:16-18 [16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall he condemned. [17]And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues. [18]They shall take up serpents: and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay their hand upon the sick: and they shall recover.
Mark 16:16-18 [16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall he condemned. [17]And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues. [18]They shall take up serpents: and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay their hand upon the sick: and they shall recover.
1 Peter 3:21 [21]Whereunto baptism, being of the like form, now saveth you also: not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but, the examination of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You must be born again of water and spirit must go to a process called Baptism. The formula for Catholic church and Priest is baptism in the name of the father son holy spirit.
Jesus never insisted for his disciples to baptized his saints to repeat his command but to do it in Jesus. Name. Notice he said name not names or titles. Acts 4:12 Jesus is God father , son and h spirit he has a name one name Jesus christ
Nobody in the new testament was ever baptized repeating in name of father son h spirit. All ministers baptized them in the name of Jesus christ or lord Jesus. Acts 8:12-17. Acts 19:1-7. Col.3:17. The original matt. 28;19 was written in my name and not in the name of FSHG UNTIL 2 ND CENTURY WHEN IT GOT CHANGED BY RCC. SEE EUSEBUIS.
Baptism. Unless you are born again of water and spirit. Baptism of first Christian's is immersion. Pouring like ananias baptizing paul pouring water. The three thousand converts were baptized by sprinkling
John 3:3 NIV Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” ανωθεν (anōthen) - above; a higher place (in other words not from water below) Colossians 2:12 Having been BURIED WITH HIM in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized INTO CHRIST have put on Christ. Romans 6:3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized INTO CHRIST Jesus were baptized into his death? 1 Cor. 6:11 11 And (A)such were some of you. But (B)you were washed, (C)you were sanctified, (D)you were justified IN THE NAME of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. Ephesians 1:13 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, Ephesians 2:4-5 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved. Ephesians 2:8 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
Any propaganda can regenerate the masses of the people, turning people into zombie boobies. Because the word in the Bible is water and the Holy Spirit, as well as spiritual weapons (the biblical sword is the word of God), the seed is the word of God. Therefore, it is easy to sow any information into the minds of people. What you sow is what you reap.
You must be born again of water and baptism. You must go to a process of baptism. Being born again does not mean joining or registering as a born again denomination. Nicodemus did not understand how to be born again. The born again denominations still do not understand how to be born again. The Catholics are the true born again Christians because they are born again of water and baptism. Catholics are baptised in the Catholic Church baptism by the Catholic Church Priest a valid baptism. The Catholic baptism is done by submertion by pouring or sprinkling. Not just immersion as claimed by born again denominations
The Bible itself is a source of knowledge and a river of wisdom. It is in this river that immerse minds in order to be reborn. Biblical water is knowledge, information. It is not for nothing that we have channels on our TV that carry streams of information, you can also immerse your mind in them and be reborn as a zombie :))
Baptism is required. It must be by immersion. Those who perform it must have authority from God. Only those age 8 and above qualify for baptism, because children under 8 have no need. The power of the atonement covers all children who die before the age of 8. Infant baptism is an abomination before the Lord. Peter states it should be done at age 8!
@@decunha75 The information in my post is from several sources and as the scriptures say...Line upon line and precept upon precept. Do you believe in Christ? I will assume so since your asking for scriptural verses. Baptism is stated in many verses so I will assume you believe it is required. (If not please say so and I will direct you to many verses for it. Age 8 is stated by Peter when talking about saved by baptism as in the days of Noah...8 were saved clearly defining age 8 for baptism. 1 Peter 3. In order to learn as much truth as the Lord has revealed unto man, one must be willing to search and study and look for the restoration spoken of by Peter that was to come. Ask any questions but be precise in what you would wish to know.
@@decunha75 1 Peter 3:20-21..."Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ". Hope this helps my friend.
THEN. PETER. SAID. UNTO THEM. REPENT. AND. BE. BAPTIZED. EVERY ONE. OF. YOU. IN THE. NAME. OF. J E S U S. C H R I S T. FOR. THE. REMISSION. OF. SIN. AND. YOU SHALL RECEIVE. THE. GIFT. OF. THE. HOLY. GHOST. OBEY. ACTS. 2:38. FOR. THE. PROMISE IS UNTO. AND YOUR. CHILDREN. AND TO. ALL THAT. ARE AFAR OFF
Children and babies have inherited sin from parents and there are bible verses of children baptism. Acts 16 15 Paul and silas baptised Lydia and the whole household meaning all members of family including children and babies. Acts 18 8 Crispus and his whole family. 1 Corinthians baptism in the household of Stephanas. Hebrews 10 26 infant baptism. Matthew 18 14 it is not the will of God that children be same. Matthew 19 14 let the children come to me. Mark 10 14 let the children come for such is the kingdom of heaven. Luke 18 15 17 people were bringing infants to him. John 3 5 no one enters heaven without baptism of water and spirit. And the formula for is baptised them in the name of the father son holy spirit
Yes, we are a herd, we eat the grass of the field (information garbage) and look for a grain of truth in it. Everything as God ordered for the treatment of fallen sinners (Genesis 3: 18,21). The skins of the animal can only be removed through the tree of life (cross).
11.03 I am a Catholic and believe in infant Baptism as taught by the Holy Catholic church, but to use the passage stating all his household to show infant baptism is not a good way to show infant baptism as his house hold could be many things, maybe he had no children, maybe all his children were grown etc etc. I think we should leave people to believe what they want and pray for their salvation through Christ as it's hard to change a persons mind with arguements that are circular by nature. God bless
In Acts 2:38, Peter says to the multitude, “Repent and be baptized..” Protestants use this verse to prove one must be a believer (not an infant) to be baptized. But the Greek translation literally says, “If you repent, then each one who is a part of you and yours must each be baptized” (“Metanoesate kai bapistheto hekastos hymon.”). In Acts 16:15, Paul baptized Lydia and her entire household. The word “household” comes from the Greek word “oikos” which is a household that includes infants and children. We must read the NT in its original Greek to understand what is actually meant.
I was baptized when I was an infant but did not become reborn until I was 45. I was reborn not through Christ but through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guided me to Jesus Christ. All backwards
This guy is so off. He said we need to understand it in Context, but then totaly ignores vs. 6 where Jesus makes it clear that the water birth is birth of the flesh, that is natural birth. And in Acts 2 peter speaks about baptism for the remission of sins, and the baptism he is talking about is the same baptism as in chapter 1 and that was the baptism of the Holy Spirit into Christ, and you will notice there was no water, just believers. Note, the word baptism, which is a greek word that simply means "Put Into" has nothing to do with water unless it notes it in the passage. For some reason every time in our english language we hear the word baptise we think of water, and yet it has nothing to do with it, in fact no where in greek literature outside the bible is the word Baptidzo {greek) ever used about water. Sure would love to debate this guy on an open forum, if he will agree.
@@paulmiller3469 Thanks Paul. Notice he says born of the flesh, and look up that phrase in the Old and New testament, is is 100% of the time used to refer to natural birth. No where in the bible is there a salvation in the flesh. Your flesh is never redeemed till the church age is over (Romans 8), so it definately can not refer to the salvation of a person.
@@FBCTrona I think you are reading into the text with your assumptions, and haven't answered my basic question of how born of the flesh is connected to the previous verse. To say born of water means born of the flesh seems like a stretch, especially when talking about such a powerful Old Covenant sign and symbol as water.
@@paulmiller3469 The flow of the text is that when Jesus tells Nicodemus that He must be born again, that nicodemus is confused, and is thinking a second birth from the womb of his mother, so Christ says it twice more, once in vs. 5 and once in vs. 6. Vs. 5 and 6 say the same thing just with a clarification that for a man to be born again, he must first be born physically (Water / flesh) and then be born spiritualy. Now for someone to try to prove otherwise would have to show somewhere in the Bible where being born of the flesh (vs.6) has anything to do with salvation. A text can never stand on it's own, the scriptures are consistent to teach the same truth several times
Peter said " Baptize in the name of Jesus Christ." The catholic church has chosen disobedience to Peter and God. Peter said first repent. No infant can repent.
The Bible nowhere says baptism is to be restricted to adults. The people whose baptisms we read about in the New Testament are adults, because they were converted as adults. This makes sense, because Christianity was just beginning-there were no “cradle Christians.” We are born with a fallen nature, a nature that is separated from God as a result of Adam’s sin (original sin, not personal sin as when we reach the age of reason). We are not born in a state of holiness. We are born in a state of original sin. We have to be born again to become joined to God, to be in Christ, to become a member of the body of Christ, to be saved. We are born of Adam’s body into condemnation. We are born of Christ’s body unto salvation. In the Gospel of John, Jesus says, “Unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). In verse 5 he repeats himself: “Unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” In other words, being born again is the same thing as being born of water and the Spirit, and it is a necessary condition for entering the kingdom of God. Jesus is saying that a man must be born of water and the Spirit-in other words, he must be baptized. The Bible tells us that you cannot enter the kingdom of God if you are not baptized. “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). The Bible says that which is born of the flesh is flesh. Not only that, but “it is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail” (John 6:63). Now, when a child is born, it is born into the flesh. But the Bible tells us that the flesh is of no avail because of the consequences of original sin. That’s why Jesus says we have to be born again. The first birth is birth of the flesh, but we need something more in order to have life. When we are baptized we put on Christ (cf. Gal. 3:27). We are buried with him in baptism (Rom. 6:4). We become members of the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13). We receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). We become a new creation in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17). Adam is the representative of the flesh. Christ is the representative of the Spirit. When we are born physically, born into the flesh, we are in Adam. When we are baptized-when we are born again, when we are born of the Spirit-we are in Christ. Infants need to be baptized, just like anyone else, so that they can be “in Christ,” so that they can put on Christ, so that they can become children of God, so that they can become members of the body of Christ, so that they can be granted eternal life.
You say that infant baptism is not in the bible. That is true. So your church's infant baptism doctrine is ftom men not from God. You talk about an " age of reason" that is another doctrine of man not of God. There is no such thing as a certain age of reason. Baptism of the unrepentent is against the bible. Repentence is a requirement in the bible. You can sprinle or emmerse all day long and it accomplishes nothing if one is not repentent. John the baptist did not baptize the unrepentent.
Are you serious ? Why did John baptize Jesus ? ( Matthew 3:11 ) Since Jesus was supposedly without sin , he had nothing to repent of . Why John the baptist was not from the disciple of Jesus ?
Moulay Jalti Jesus wanted to be baptized so that he could “fulfill all righteousness” you have to remember he was setting the example for all of us to follow, fulfilling the entire will of His Father, & in Baptism the Holy Spirit comes upon Him.
The fact that he was baptized by John has always been an embarrassment to the church The gospels offer no explanation for Jesus's baptism , apart for the meaningless explanation given in * Matthew 3:14-15 * ( to fulfill all righteousness ) Other passages , which indicate that Jesus did not consider himself sinless , are also an embarrassment to the church : Mark 10:18 , Luke 18:19
That's protestant teaching where protestants concentrate solely on forgiveness of sins Jesus says to nicodemus that he need to be born of water and spirit John 3:5..He received the holy spirit when he exited the water Luke 3:22...baptism and to accept Jesus as your lord and savior is protestant teaching ,pastors teach you protestant teachings there's more to baptism than what they teach.. 1) to become a child of God 2) forgiveness of sins. 3) to receive inheritance 4) to receive the promise of the father ...the promise is also for children acts 2:39....children again(when the term used the whole household) acts 16:31.. The other topic is a different teaching about the word (good).? Jesus is God the second person of the holy trinity. But he does the fathers will. That's what he did to leave all the teachings for us.. Embarrassment where.. It's your imagination..
TO BE BORN : John 3:3 This famous phrase is also found in the book of the pseudo god KRISHNA , All we know that the Hinduism was before the Christianity 4-3000 years ago , The Ghanj river is used to be for those who want ** to be born **, is it an hazard or ......?
Peter said " be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ." The catholic church 300 years later made up " the trinity" and does not baptize in the name of Jesus Christ. Therefore not only is there no forgiveness , but there is no gift of the Holy Spirit. The catholic church chose to be disobedient to God.
Pitre again changes the Word of God. He misquoted God. Jesus is The Word of God. Jesus said " You must be born again of water and the spirit." You must be born again of BOTH.
It takes a great Theologian like you Dr. Pitre to explain the whole passage and all in the Holy Bible. Thank you so much, you are a God sent. May God bless you always.
Yes baptism is essential for us all. This is a video that I made on baptism ua-cam.com/video/gxhpJVpYoTg/v-deo.html
Thanking you Dr. Petrie, for polishing up my Catholic toolbox. 💪✝️
Matthew 28:18-19
"And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth."
"Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
“The Lord was baptized, not to be cleansed Himself, but to cleanse the waters, so that those waters, cleansed by the flesh of Christ, which knew no sin, might have the power of baptism.”
St. Ambrose
now way. Simply not true. John was baptizing people before and after Christ was baptized. Baptism simply is identification. In the Old testament people were baptized to identify with the Jews. John Baptized to identify people with the coming Messiah, and we are baptized to identify with the death of Christ. Baptism does nothing more than identify true Christians, it saves no one. That is why Paul the Apostle did not baptize, and even said that Christ sent him not to baptize but preach the Gospel, because only believing the Gospel saves.
... and the Gospel of Christ includes baptism...
Levy Manlapig 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Sorry Didn’t see baptism there.
@@levymanlapig8970 Levy, could you show me anywhere in scripture where it teaches that the Gospel is all the commands and precepts of scripture. In Galatians the people simply added circumcision to the Gospel, and Paul told them that they were removed from the Gospel and if any man or angel preach this to you let them be anathema, that is damned. and that was for simply adding one commandment.
@@FBCTrona First, please be informed that I am not a bible expert or scholar, and whatever I write or say is merely to share my thoughts or beliefs as a Catholic Christian.
You seem to have misread or misunderstood me... I did not say "the Gospel is all the commands and precepts of scripture", rather "the gospel of Christ is comprised of all His teachings, commands, principles, and doctrines set forth in the synoptic gospels ..." (which are in the N.T.). The terms Scripture(s) and Bible are synonymous --- that is, referring to the O.T. & N.T. --- and to say "all the commands and precepts of scripture" would therefore include all the Jewish religious and cultural practices/traditions, or the Mosaic Laws. We have no issue, I believe, that Christ detests various Jewish religious and cultural traditions/practices that are either contrary to His moral teachings/commands, or that of the Father. Among those are the thorough washing of hands before eating for "purification", and circumcision (as you mentioned) for "salvation".
Peace ...
For Catholics, being "born again" occurs at baptism. Look at Acts 19:1-7, the men were baptized in water and also received the Holy Spirit at the SAME TIME.
Acts 10:44-47 the Holy Spirit fell on them before Baptism...how do you explain that?
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The group of Gentiles were baptized immediately after the Spirit came upon them. The reason that the Spirit came upon them prior to baptism is found in Acts 11:17-18. God gave them the Spirit before baptism to show that the Gentiles were being brought into the saving work of Christ.
@@morelmaster Thanks John, but it does not fit. God could never be in a man unless that man has been imputed with the righteousness of God. You find the same thing in Acts 2 where the believers received the Holy Spirit then later were baptized and added to the church. The Old Testament Saint never had the indwelling Holy Spirit because they never could be made perfectly righteous, so the Holy Spirit could "Come upon them" but never in them, nor reside in them. But one thing you are right on, they were given tongues so Peter could witness it and the Jews knew the gentiles were now part of the church. Paul the apostle said the only thing he cared about was that whether Christ was in you or not I Cor. 2:2, yet in I Cor. 1:17 Paul made it clear that he was not sent by Christ to baptize. Jesus said the same, and Baptized only his disciples. Did these men not care for the salvation of others?
@@morelmaster Exactly. Actually its more like babies are being baptized. Church believes for them during their baptism. Same way Saint Peter and the apostles (the church) believed among those gentiles. As a result circumcision of theirs hearts happened (Acts 2 : 37). And later on baptism.
I got. Baptized in J E S U S. N A M E in south korea. United. Pentecostal church i received. The holy ghost baptism of fire and spoke in. New tongues. In 1971. my new birth experience. John 3:3-6. By total. Immersion no.sprinkling buried with christ
I love that word efficacious. Fr. Chad Ripperger uses it a lot very appropriately.
Why do everyone who have "Jesus preached unto them" IMMEDIATELY get baptized? Paul, the eunuch, the prison guard?
"Look! Here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?"-The Ethiopian eunuch upon "having Jesus preached unto him."
I know why!
"For as many of you as have been baptized have put on Christ."
"Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death?"
"For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life."
Because it is essential to our salvation!!
Ave Christus Rex Jesus said that he that believes and is baptized will be saved saved Mark 16:16.. The first commandment that Jesus gave us was to be baptized. When St. Peter gave us the keys of the kingdom in Acts 2:38.. and those who accepted Peter’s word were baptized and that day about 3000 were baptized..only believers are baptized and baptism always followed immediately after repentance being filled with the Holy Spirit. Babies were never baptized. In baptism the Holy Spirit baptizes us into Jesus body ,His church 1 Corinthians 12:13.This baptism is a legal transaction where we are joined to Jesus in Jesus death,burial and resurrection and are now seated with Jesus in heavenly places. Anyone who refuses to do the first commandment of Jesus how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12..Lots of fellowships treat baptism as a ritual or symbolic but like the Lords Supper we are participating in the Lords body Romans 6:2 Colossians 3:1-3
prairie mark thanks Mark The requirement in god’s word for baptism is believing. Acts 8:37 and 16:31-33 Mark 16:16. Babies are only dedicated into different denominations like Protestants and Catholics etc. Jesus said that he that believes and is baptized will be saved. Baptism always followed immediately after believing and is always full immersion. and being filled with the Holy Spirit. Renewing your mind will help you become a disciple of Jesus Christ while making other disciples of Jesus Christ. Go for it Mark, what’s hindering you.
prairie mark anyone who refuses to do Jesus first commandment how will he do the greater works mentioned in John 14:12. The 3000 who heard Peters sermon had no problem going to the waters of baptism in Acts 2:40 -41. Saint Peter commanded all those who believed in Cornelius house to be baptized into Jesus. Acts 10:48. Your next step is to be baptized into Jesus body by someone who knows what baptism is about. Romans 6;2-6 Colossians 3:1. The Holy Spirit will use other believers to baptize you in the one body 1 Corinthians 12:13.Why are you waiting.? Acts 22:16. Acts 16:31-33
prairie mark babies haven’t the capacity to make choices.. If we can baptize babies then all we would have to do is sprinkle water on people as they pass by. We could get a good strategic position where lots were passing and sprinkle them.without any commitment.?
Excellent! This is the teaching of the fullness of truth!
"were saved by water ... Baptism now saves, you also: not by the removal of filth from the flesh, but in the appeal for a clear conscience before God by the [power] of the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."
The Apostle Peter, head of the Church of Jesus Christ.
Fantastic explanation.
False explenation: as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe on Christ as Lord and Saviour. This man is trying to say that the water here is baptism... if that is si, then why does Jesus so clearly say that the water represents the fleshly birth, and it must come first. Vs. 6. and yes the Bible clearly teaches that a person is saved by simply by faith from the heart believing the Gospel Romans 10:9-10, 13 , John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:47, Romans 4:5, Acts 13:39 . A person cannot do one thing for their salvation accept repent and believe, notice this is made clear in Scripture... Romans 3:20, 28, Galations 2:16, Titus 3:5. Friend this is important, because if you believe that Baptism or any work of man can lead to your salvation you have rejected the Gospel, and are forever lost. Remember that the bible say that the way to hell is broad and many go in thereat. Religion has always taught that a man must do and be good to enter heaven, but the Bible certainly does not preach that.
carlos thanks for your reply. Actualy this was one doctrine that Luther never changed. Luther believed in Baptismal regeneration his entire life, and never became a born again believer. You mentioned two scriptures, One in James where James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17,20,26) Please read the entire chapter and you will notice that he is not speaking before God, but before men (Vs. 18). A man who is saved by faithcan not show his salvation by showing his faith, he can only prove to men that he has put his faith in Christ by showing that salvation has changed his life. Paul made it clear that when a man comes to Christ "old things are passed away, behold all things are become new." (II Corinthians 5:17) If he never shows that he is new,, it never shows in his lifestayle, then James declares that his faith was dead, in other words he may say he had faith in Christ, but it was a lie. A true christian with Christ in his life will have a new life, if not, then he never got saved to begin with. Also Paul says faith without charity as well (I Cor. 13). If you look at Romans 5:5 you will see that when a person comes to Christ by faith they are given as a gift the Love of Christ. John wrote in I John 3 that if a man does not have this love than he is not saved and abides in Darkness. But what Paul is mentioning in I Cor. 13 is dealing with the misuse of spiritual gifts for personal reasons. and the word Charity (Agape in the greek) simply means love, and Paul says none of my good works, or my faith matters if I do not have love for the brethren. Please carry on the conversation.
@@FBCTrona James said we are justified by works, no matter how you try to talk that away. In Romans 2, St. Paul says that eternal life is reward for works. Matthew 12 says by our words will we be judged (what we say, as opposed to just what we believe). Matthew 25 says those who don't feed the poor will be in trouble. I know there are verses that also talk about faith, but you have to ignore a bunch of verses to believe what you believe. St. Paul even says that both faith and works without love are nothing, so arguably he might say this faith alone/faith and works debate is misleading.
@@paulmiller3469 Thanks for your reply Paul. First when a Person is saved, they are redeemed the Bible says, it also says they are made righteous. The word Justified in the scripture means two things, for one to be imputed with Righteousness, and it also means to render or to Judge one righteous. Both are used in the passage you refer to. Notice James 2:21, and then notice vs. 23. This is exactly what Paul taught, that Abraham was saved by Faith, and nothing done in his flesh, that is works only makes you a debter and thus put under judgement and damned. Read Romans 4:1-5 . When james said that abraham was justified by offering his son, then you would have to either admit that a person is saved by Sacraficing their son, or it is something else. James whole argument is to be a doer of God's word James 1:23-25. as For the Mathew 12 and 25 I have no problem with, for Jesus is speaking of who a true disciple is. A Christian is saved by faith alone, but if his life does not change then Paul taught that his faith was not real, and thus he is not saved. The verses you pick are a cunundrum for the catholic church witch in official Catholic Dogma, James j. Mcgovern 1909 stated on page 327 under salvation that a catholic is saved by the sacraments of baptism, and maintained by the sacrament of communion. What you are telling me is something different, your saying a person is saved by good deeds like wholsome words, feeding the poor, and offering your son. Bit confusing. Hope we can keep the dialogue going.
@@FBCTrona Sorry, but that just sounds like a bunch of protester babble (and I used to be Protestant). We are saved by grace, but it's a covenant and we have to do our part. We have to forgive others, don't judge others, perform corporal works of mercy, consume the Eucharist, etc. I know your arguments, but what impressed me was looking at evidence of what the early Church understood. The apostles lived with Jesus for three years (where you and I can read a single Gospel in, what, a couple hours?), and they taught the next generation what they understood. That teaching doesn't seem to match up well with what you are saying.
Great video. TY so much!
The Born Again movement and even the Baptist tradition are neo-Gnostic - salvation depending on the possession of knowledge.
Alex Lielbardis The born again was given by Jesus in John 3:3 Unless you are born again you will not see nor enter the kingdom of God. Being born again is that you have repented from your sins and turned to Jesus to receive your free gift forgiveness and salvation and eternal life.We all need a savior or else we will perish. The only way into the kingdom is by calling on Jesus directly with all your heart and Jesus then snatches you from darkness to light Colossians 1:13. St. Paul called on Jesus and received his free gift of salvation and forgiveness acts 9:14-21.. Mary called on Jesus and received her free gift of salvation Luke 1:46-48. My soul magnifies the lord and my spirit rejoices in God my savior. Who was Jesus savior? Jesus is the only savior of the world.John 14:6 Call on Jesus and have eternal life John 3:16.
Sean please listen to this...he explains those scriptures you quoted have to be read in context! He clarifies again being born again means you must born of water AND spirit you cannot be born again. This is at baptism! It’s not simply an outward sign but rather a spiritual rebirth and given new life and becomes a new creation in Christ.
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This is from my blog article: In the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus, our Lord says to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (Jn 3:3). The Greek phrase often translated “born again” (γεννηθῇ ἄνωθεν or gennatha anothen in the English transliteration) also occurs in V.7 in which Jesus says, “Do not marvel that I said to you, “You must be born again.” The Greek word anothen sometimes can be translated “again,” but in the New Testament, it most often means “from above” or “from heaven” (cf. Jn 3:31). In the King James Version, which I am using, the only two times it is translated “again” are in John 3:3 and 3:7. Every other time it is given a different rendering. However, we have our mental equivalent in Vv.5-6, in which Jesus says, ““Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
Now, in V.3, our Lord declares that one must be “born again” to enter the kingdom of God, while in V.5 he reiterates more clearly that one must be “born of water and spirit” to enter the kingdom of God. Thus, the expression “born again” refers to the sacrament of baptism in water and Spirit which is salvific. One who is born or reborn “of Spirit” is born “from above” or “from heaven.” Jesus does say on another occasion, “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mk 16:16). One cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless they are saved, and this requires not only belief in Jesus but also the sacrament of initiation that washes away the stain of original sin and marks the new life in the Spirit.
From Early sacred tradition:
” ‘And dipped himself,’ says [the Scripture], ‘seven times in Jordan.’ It was not
for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon
his being baptized, but it served as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in
sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the
Lord, from our old transgressions; being spiritually regenerated as newborn
babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through
water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.’”
St. Irenaeus, Fragment, 34
(A.D. 190)
“[W]hen they come to us and to the Church which is one, ought to be baptized,
for the reason that it is a small matter to ‘lay hands on them that they may
receive the Holy Ghost,’ unless they receive also the baptism of the Church. For
then finally can they be fully sanctified, and be the sons of God, if they be born
of each sacrament; since it is written, ‘Except a man be born again of water, and
of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’…[O]nly baptism of the
Holy Church, by divine regeneration, for the kingdom of God, may be born of
both sacraments, because it is written, ‘Except a man be born of water and of
the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.’”
St. Cyprian of Carthage, To Stephen, 71:72
(A.D. 253) Etc.
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@@alexchristopher221 Thanks for your response. I’ve subscribed to your UA-cam channel and now subscribe to my channel in Jesus name.Have you been baptized since you believed. He that believes and is baptized will be saved. Only believers are baptized and is always full immersion into water into Christ Jesus Babies are never baptized as they cannot make this big decision yet.
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 Once a child attains the age of moral reasoning while having been nurtured in the Christian faith at home and in the Church, they can decide for themselves whether to live up to their baptismal commitments and persevere in faith. These life-long baptismal commitments also apply to people who have been baptized in adulthood. One isn’t automatically and irrevocably saved just by being baptized and consciously making an initial profession of faith. The important thing for the infant or any human being is that they receive the initial grace of justification and forgiveness for being implicated in the sin of Adam and becoming a partaker of the divine nature through the water of cleansing and regeneration in the Spirit.
In Judaism, the ritual of circumcision ( Heb. בְּרִית מִילָה / brit milah) is a symbol of one’s partnership with God. This partnership with YWHW is a mysterious covenant that surpasses human comprehension. It is a pledge of unconditional devotion, no matter what may transpire between God and an individual. It is a bond that is absolute and immutable. For this reason, a Jew is circumcised as an infant, although it hasn’t yet developed its capacity for reasoning or making moral judgments since the covenant of circumcision is not an intellectual or calculated partnership. The circumcision of an infant demonstrates that the connection between the Jews and YHWH is beyond human rationale.
Baptism proceeds from the rite of circumcision, as to how God intended that a spiritual circumcision must take place which the physical aspect of circumcision represented in the Old Covenant. Baptism, therefore, is a sign of inward, spiritual “circumcision.” Baptism is a rebirth to a new life with God and being reborn from above. Although circumcision isn’t a sacrament but a symbolic ritual in Judaism, there are significant parallels between the two that show how baptism fulfills circumcision, as the Old Covenant finds its fulfillment in the New that has been established by Christ through the outpouring of his blood.
St. Paul points out that baptism has replaced circumcision. He refers to the sacrament as “the circumcision of Christ” and “the circumcision made without hands” (Col 2:11-12). The latter reference recalls the passage above taken from the Book of Deuteronomy which refers to the physical ritual as essentially being a circumcision of the heart of all the Israelites including the circumcised male infants who will eventually grow into manhood expected to abide by God’s covenant. When a Jewish boy reaches the age of thirteen, the family celebrates his Bar Mitzvah, on which occasion he is regarded as ready to observe religious moral precepts and eligible to participate in public worship at the synagogue. The boy’s father offers a prayer of thanksgiving to God for relieving him of being morally responsible for his son’s actions, because he is primarily held accountable for the boy’s religious and spiritual nurturing until he has reached adolescence. This same principle holds in the Catholic faith with respect to baptizing infants. Infant baptism has its roots in Judaism and is an ecclesial tradition handed down to us from the apostles who themselves were Jewish. Anyway, if the nascent Church didn’t practice infant baptism, we should doubt whether Paul would have used the rite of circumcision as a parallel for the sacrament.
Further, we read in the New Testament that Lydia was baptized with her “household” after she converted (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer who was converted by Paul and Silas was baptized that same night along with his household. In fact, he was baptized “with all his family” (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the church in Corinth, Paul writes, “I did baptize also the household of Stephanus” (1 Cor 1:16). In the above passages, Paul uses the Greek word oikon (οἶκον) for the English word “household.” This accusative masculine singular noun literally means “a dwelling” and by implication “a family.” If children weren’t part of these families, Paul could have simply written that “she and her husband” or “he and his wife” were baptized. Nor would it make sense for him to have used the all-inclusive word "household" or "family" if all children weren't included as members.
The New Testament (Covenant) Church and the Early Church practiced infant baptism.
For He came to save all through means of Himself-all, I say, who through Him
are born again to God-infants, and children, and boys, and youths, and old
men.”
St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 2,22:4
(A.D. 180)
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This one is likely going to be an active discussion, because trying to convince protesters that 'born again' may mean something other than how they understand it could threaten their whole (false) paradigm. The only things that are bigger, from what I've seen, are faith alone and scripture alone (though the latter might be in the early stages of evolving out of a lot of Protestant thinking, so maybe just faith alone).
I will join that active discussion, because as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe on Christ as Lord and Saviour. This man is trying to say that the water here is baptism... if that is si, then why does Jesus so clearly say that the water represents the fleshly birth, and it must come first. Vs. 6. and yes the Bible clearly teaches that a person is saved by simply by faith from the heart believing the Gospel Romans 10:9-10, 13 , John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:47, Romans 4:5, Acts 13:39 . A person cannot do one thing for their salvation accept repent and believe, notice this is made clear in Scripture... Romans 3:20, 28, Galations 2:16, Titus 3:5. Friend this is important, because if you believe that Baptism or any work of man can lead to your salvation you have rejected the Gospel, and are forever lost. Remember that the bible say that the way to hell is broad and many go in thereat. Religion has always taught that a man must do and be good to enter heaven, but the Bible certainly does not preach that.
@@FBCTrona '...as Christians we believe that a person is saved when they simply Believe...' Actually most Christians don't believe that (1.2 billion Catholics, 400 million Orthodox don't), so your comment contains error in the first sentence..
@@paulmiller3469 Was the repentent thief on the cross saved?
I doubt he was baptized.
@ There was no thief on the cross. And, no, I'm not questioning the Gospel of Luke. I'm just saying you most likely have a bad translation.
@ I'm sorry, Matthew, if that came across as short. It's just that we seem to keep getting the same questions over and over... Alright, first, the Romans didn't crucify thieves. And not every execution was a crucifixion. As far as I know, that was reserved for revolutionaries (now does the conversation between the high priest and governor make more sense?). Second, I don't know if anyone crucified with Jesus was baptized or not. Not my business. We tend not to worry about figuring out the formula so much, and leave judgment to the Judge.
Baptism is the circumcision of Christ. Just as a Jew would circumcise someone to enter into the Covenant of God in the Old Testament - including babies, so too the baptism of the new Covenant is given to babies as well and to everyone who needs to be baptized to enter the New Covenant of God.
Protestant defence. First and foremost unity in Christ is important. And I think Brant Pitre is an excellent scholar and teacher. Up there with NT Wright and the best of them. 1.Context is important to all believers
2. Context of 'children' seems to be pretty plainly talking about generations not infants.
3. Why would an Infant not experiencing any sin yet need forgiveness of sins? Sin is only sin if it's knowledge of sin. An infant is unaware of sin in mind. It's also rejects the choice of the individual/free will which is a gift of God given us to choose Him rather than him forcing himself on us.
Infants are born with the original sin, the sin of Adam and eve. That is why they should be babtized in the first place.
We are born with a fallen nature, a nature that is separated from God as a result of Adam’s sin (original sin, not personal sin as would occur when we reach the age of reason). We are not born in a state of holiness. We are born in a state of original sin. We have to be born again to become joined to God, to be in Christ, to become a member of the body of Christ, to be saved. We are born of Adam’s body into condemnation. We are born of Christ’s body unto salvation.
In the Gospel of John, Jesus says, “Unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). In verse 5 he repeats himself: “Unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.”
In other words, being born again is the same thing as being born of water and the Spirit, and it is a necessary condition for entering the kingdom of God. Jesus is saying that a man must be born of water and the Spirit-in other words, he must be baptized. The Bible tells us that you cannot enter the kingdom of God if you are not baptized.
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). The Bible says that which is born of the flesh is flesh. Not only that, but “it is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail” (John 6:63).
Now, when a child is born, it is born into the flesh. But the Bible tells us that the flesh is of no avail because of the consequences of original sin. That’s why Jesus says we have to be born again. The first birth is birth of the flesh, but we need something more in order to have life.
When we are baptized we put on Christ (cf. Gal. 3:27). We are buried with him in baptism (Rom. 6:4). We become members of the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13). We receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). We become a new creation in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17).
Adam is the representative of the flesh. Christ is the representative of the Spirit. When we are born physically, born into the flesh, we are in Adam. When we are baptized-when we are born again, when we are born of the Spirit-we are in Christ. Infants need to be baptized, just like anyone else, so that they can be “in Christ,” so that they can put on Christ, so that they can become children of God, so that they can become members of the body of Christ, so that they can be granted eternal life.
To clarify, an adult is not to be baptized without having first repented. The normal process for an adult would be to believe, repent, and then be baptized. “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him.” Acts 2:38-39
Since Peter was speaking to adults in the passage quoted above, he said “repent and be baptized.”
The Bible nowhere says baptism is to be restricted to adults. Again, the people whose baptisms we read about in the New Testament are adults, because they were converted as adults. This makes sense, because Christianity was just beginning-there were no “cradle Christians.” Hope this helps! God bless you!
God thank you for letting us being your beloved children.
Physical birth at first and second baptism by water and spirit. Catholics include the children among their household
Baby baptism make sense children part of family and should not be excluded. Mature and children baptized together
Baptism of water and spirit is spiritual
The protestants have done their best to change the word of God.
I say they did the worst. "Pied Pipering" people to damnation.
Well its for those who know better to bring them to understanding of the truth.
It's verily, verily I say unto you, not amen, amen I say unto you... but satan's children don't change the word of God... do you... your father's time is but a short time so enjoy while you can....
@@josephdidier8360 “Amen” is Aramaic or Hebrew for “this is true”. Verily is a translation of the language Jesus used.
Dr Brant please compile a book on all your videos , it will be helpful for many if it is already done . kindly please give the name of the book.
Amen Brother. So many miss this and are caught up in perverted or distorted theology.
There is no “praying Jesus into your heart” for salvation in the Bible. Faith is a verb. By faith we are saved. They were baptizing before nicodemus and after nicodemus in John too. Context. Belief leads to action/faith.
“Shall” is a future tense word.
If one (truly) believes he shall...ask what do and then “do” to be saved. One then does what the scripture says to do. It’s straightforward.
We hear, we believe, we start repent, we confess, we ask what shall I do to be saved, we do what the Bible says to do for salvation, etc. Acts 2 :38. It’s a lot of work yet some are convinced there is no work/action/verb/faith in the process.
Inward faith with outward confession... sounds so wrong. Sounds like someone wants to “hide it under a bushel”
Good stuff..
In Him,
George
Catholic and all christian should be united for we all read the same bible and we all believe that Jesus died for our sins. Its just a matter of how you interfret your understanding towards the bible. I absolutely not against to any other form of christianity.
Excellent.
I bought the baptism but it wasn't included so I had to buy it again.
Excellent!
Immersion into the water submertion deep in the water and Emersion out of the water. Immersion is a valid form of baptism so is sprinkling and pouring
The Bible itself is a source of knowledge and a river of wisdom. It is in this river that immerse minds in order to be reborn.
10 thumbs down don't understand just like Nicodemmus
@@po18guyHuh!?
It seems odd OT precursors to Christian baptism and John's baptism of Jesus and others aren't mentioned. But maybe this video is just part of a longer talk?
Yeah. I’d like a book on the Jewish Roots of Baptism
@prairie mark I’m teaching a group in a baptist church and for all their insistence on grace through faith, if I ask what you need to do to be saved, I get a litany of steps that must be completed before you are saved. No. Jesus already did the work. All you need to do is believe.
@@vinciblegaming6817 Of course belief leads to action. We can see that among Christians just like we see it among atheist social justice warriors and communists whose actions are motivated by non-Christian beliefs.
Literally every existing Christian church believes in baptism. Can we talk about the rest of the churches believe in not praying in reparative prayers? Or praying to golden alters... or turning the chambers into a market, or praying to anything other than God?
Are you serious? If a person can be saved by water then why did Jesus die on the cross? Sorry my friend, you got the wrong liquid. Only the blood of Jesus can save a soul from hell. Why are you telling people that water will save them? The faith in Jesus is what saves them not the dunking in water. They wouldn't get baptised in the name of Jesus if they didn't have faith in him. Ephesians 2, 8&9.... For by Grace you are saved by faith and not of yourselves, it is a gift from God and not of works lest any man should boast. I was a catholic for many years. I was living in sin on my way to hell. Thank God I got out of the Catholic Church and am now saved the genuine way by the truth. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Nobody comes unto the father but by him. Answer my question....Why did Jesus die on the cross?
I thank God I am now Catholic.
it is Jesus Christ who commissioned not just immerse in water but baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit refer mt 28:19
water baptism symbolizes your acceptance that you are dead to sin with Jesus Christ and alive with Jesus Christ
@Simon Sammut
Rom 6:3-5: "Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his."
Jesus died on the Cross, among other things, to make Baptism efficacious.
John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Baptist weren't Anabaptist. Baptist was started by John Smyth in 1609. But he may have got some of his believes from the Anabaptists.
Nice teaching, crappy Tabernacle behind him though. The parish should have no heat, lights, or air conditioning, and remove the pews, let them stand and kneel on the floor, and make sure there are no restrooms, parking lots, or windows. They should do that to ensure that the quality of all the facilities for the people do not exceed the quality of the facility they provide for the King. A nice cold ugly empty box for everybody.
St. Peter, the chief of the Apostles.
Where in the Bible does it say that ?
Jesus left us a church not a book. The bible was put together 300 years after Jesus resurrection by the Catholic Church. The church is the pillar of truth says the bible. St. Paul says we follow the tradition not the human tradition but sacred one. Nowhere in the Bible says all that we believe is only in the Bible. St John says if everything Jesus did and said would be written there wouldn't be enough books to write it.
I wonder why Peter is always placed first in the list of apostles (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13 etc...), we even sometimes see that they ( the apostles ) dissociate his name from the group of apostles and call him only by name and don't include it in the group, as if he wasn't an apostle, as if he was their chef like Michael although being an angel himself is named being "with his angels" ( we can see it for example in Mark 16:7; Luke 9:32 etc... but and especially in 1 Cor 9:5 "Have we no right to lead about a wife that is a believer, even as the rest of the apostles, and the brethren of the Lord, *and Cephas?"* I ask: So Saint Peter wasn't a disciple? ). It was not by chance that they named Peter that way, it was due to his position.
For those thinking Dr Pitre was just twisting the scripture about baptism and for whatever reasons you doubters of baptism, just read Mat 28:18-20.
Janette Davis Amen they are preaching from the wrong side of Calvary.
James M just look at St. Peter’s first sermon where he gave us the keys to the kingdom in Acts 2:38. Repentance from serving sins and the world and turning to Jesus and being baptized into Jesus and being filled with the Holy Spirit. All 3000 gladly went into the waters of baptism and were filled with the Holy Spirit.Babies were never baptized but believers only. The early believers were simply Jews who believed in their messiah Jesus and were baptized into the body of Christ immediately and baptism is always full immersion
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 well, the verses on HOUSEHOLD have been explained well. Ask yourself this question: if you have a baby, will you in your all might give the best for him/her? Now, do you believe Jesus is the best thing for you as a christian? No? Yes? If yes, wont you want to give your baby the best thing that is Jesus thru the baptism? Remember, Jesus was "baptized" thru Jewish rite of circumcission (a sign of covenant with YAHWeh) when he was 8 days old. Eight days old!
Every parents want to give the best for the children, including babies n infants who cannot make a decision on their own, but as far as Jesus Christ, the true christian parents know, jesus is the best for their babies and infants.
James M thanks for your response. Yes you’re right every parent wants the best for their children. We all desire our children saved and following Jesus. That’s why we bring them up in the way of the Lord and teaching them all things concerning the gospel. In spite of how we teach our children some will not follow Jesus. The decision to follow Jesus is a personal decision. We are all born into this world of into the kingdom of darkness and we all need to make a decision for Jesus. Saint Peter tells us all to repent or change and to be baptized into Christ Jesus and to be filled with the Holy Spirit Acts 2:38. We all need to be snatched from the kingdom of darkness and brought into Jesus kingdom of love Colossians 1:13. Weeks all need to do business directly with Jesus by calling on Jesus directly to save us and forgive us of all our sins past, present and future sins and ask Jesus to fill you then with His Holy Spirit after we’re cleansed of all sins. Jesus died for the sins of the entire world 2000 years ago on Calvary. Call on Jesus right now and be forgiven of all sins and be baptized into Christ Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit. Babies are never baptized but believers only. Babies are dedicated to Jesus and all need to make a conscious decision to follow Jesus. All babies go to heaven and when mature all need to make a decision for Jesus Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus receives eternal life Romans 10:9-14. John 3;16 John 3:36. Call on Jesus right now and have Paradise Luke 23:34-44 Acts 16:31-33
@@seanrathmakedisciples1508 well, certainly you have your right to intepret what household means. To me, and to all catholics, our households include infants. And we give them the best from the beginning. The baptism will be something very valuable no matter what they choose when they are able to choose on their own. We cannot control life. We dont know one will die. It's safe to be bsptized fisrt.
Hello Dr. Petre, John The Baptist was Grandfathered into the New Testament. John was Baptized while in the womb (water) of Elizabeth. When Mary Mother of Jesus met Elizabeth John (leaped), this is when He was baptized. Therefore, Jesus was officially baptized with The Holy Spirit as were all the others, not just with a symbol of water. John had already obtained The Blessing and his sins of past generations washed away. John is not given full credit, but does not care, his job was Done.
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@@sleepystar1638 There has been theology schoolers who said yes. So many throughout history who butt such concepts based on circumstantial evidence do so cause don't have much critical thinking ability or simply don't get it. Just like Jesus told Peter that he got the idea due to help of The Holy Spirit and so goes the rest of the story. So many just can't see out of the box even PhDs who have knowledge but lacking in wisdom.
@@rickzabala6020 its about seeing what God wants us to see, Baptism requires matter, form, and intention. John Baptism is the Baptism of repentance not of Salvation.
Jesus said you must be born from ABOVE or from Heaven. That's literally what the Greek says. This is not done by immersion in water its done by immersion IN CHRIST. Baptism is a ritual and is not required for salvation and is not how we are "born again." You are born from above through the Spirit by grace through faith when you believe and trust in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@po18guySo "anyone" = John, Paul, and Jesus.
I don't know what happened to my first response or why its not showing up but here it is again. Just like the devil trying to conceal truth...
John 3:3 NIV
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
ανωθεν (anōthen) - above; a higher place (in other words not from water below)
Colossians 2:12
Having been BURIED WITH HIM in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as were baptized INTO CHRIST have put on Christ.
Romans 6:3
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized INTO CHRIST Jesus were baptized into his death?
1 Cor. 6:11
11 And (A)such were some of you. But (B)you were washed, (C)you were sanctified, (D)you were justified IN THE NAME of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Ephesians 1:13
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
Ephesians 2:4-5
4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:8
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
Acts 10:47 Water does not save
Nothing to do with being baptized into the papal system. This scripture he mentions is not from western theology. How you know Nicodemus thought same as you
@po18guy love your neighbor AS YOURSELF. Is that egoistical.
Read in gospel of john chapter 9: 1-2. About the man born blind. Observe the disciples 2 questions, and jesus total rejection of original sin from Adam.
Question. "How do babies repent?" It says. "Repent and be baptized."
Baptism is spiritual too the holy spirit sanctified them. They don't need to repent anyway as they havent sinned
Question: Why do you think Jesus was baptized?
Mark 16:16-18
[16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall he condemned.
[17]And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues.
[18]They shall take up serpents: and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay their hand upon the sick: and they shall recover.
Mark 16:16-18
[16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall he condemned.
[17]And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils. They shall speak with new tongues.
[18]They shall take up serpents: and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay their hand upon the sick: and they shall recover.
1 Peter 3:21
[21]Whereunto baptism, being of the like form, now saveth you also: not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but, the examination of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You must be born again of water and spirit must go to a process called Baptism. The formula for Catholic church and Priest is baptism in the name of the father son holy spirit.
Biblical water is a word, knowledge, information. Immerse yourself in a new flow of information and come out of it as a renewed person = reborn
Jesus never insisted for his disciples to baptized his saints to repeat his command but to do it in Jesus. Name. Notice he said name not names or titles. Acts 4:12 Jesus is God father , son and h spirit he has a name one name Jesus christ
Nobody in the new testament was ever baptized repeating in name of father son h spirit. All ministers baptized them in the name of Jesus christ or lord Jesus. Acts 8:12-17. Acts 19:1-7. Col.3:17. The original matt. 28;19 was written in my name and not in the name of FSHG UNTIL 2 ND CENTURY WHEN IT GOT CHANGED BY RCC. SEE EUSEBUIS.
"Protestant Christian" is an oxymoron. "Catholic Christian" is a redundancy.
Have. You. Received. The. Holy. Ghost. Since you believed. ACTS 19: 1-7 .
Baptism. Unless you are born again of water and spirit. Baptism of first Christian's is immersion. Pouring like ananias baptizing paul pouring water. The three thousand converts were baptized by sprinkling
Submersion pouring and sprinkle were practices of first Christian's in Rome
Children have uncommitted sin but inherited sin from Adam and eve
Protestant will be a protestant forever
Again, 24th MAR 2023.
John 3:3 NIV
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
ανωθεν (anōthen) - above; a higher place (in other words not from water below)
Colossians 2:12
Having been BURIED WITH HIM in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as were baptized INTO CHRIST have put on Christ.
Romans 6:3
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized INTO CHRIST Jesus were baptized into his death?
1 Cor. 6:11
11 And (A)such were some of you. But (B)you were washed, (C)you were sanctified, (D)you were justified IN THE NAME of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Ephesians 1:13
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
Ephesians 2:4-5
4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:8
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
The Catholics are the true born again Christians the bible way by Steve Ray.
Any propaganda can regenerate the masses of the people, turning people into zombie boobies. Because the word in the Bible is water and the Holy Spirit, as well as spiritual weapons (the biblical sword is the word of God), the seed is the word of God.
Therefore, it is easy to sow any information into the minds of people. What you sow is what you reap.
You must be born again of water and baptism. You must go to a process of baptism. Being born again does not mean joining or registering as a born again denomination. Nicodemus did not understand how to be born again. The born again denominations still do not understand how to be born again. The Catholics are the true born again Christians because they are born again of water and baptism. Catholics are baptised in the Catholic Church baptism by the Catholic Church Priest a valid baptism. The Catholic baptism is done by submertion by pouring or sprinkling. Not just immersion as claimed by born again denominations
You must be born again of water and baptism you must go to a process called baptism.
The Bible itself is a source of knowledge and a river of wisdom. It is in this river that immerse minds in order to be reborn. Biblical water is knowledge, information. It is not for nothing that we have channels on our TV that carry streams of information, you can also immerse your mind in them and be reborn as a zombie :))
Baptism is required. It must be by immersion. Those who perform it must have authority from God. Only those age 8 and above qualify for baptism, because children under 8 have no need. The power of the atonement covers all children who die before the age of 8. Infant baptism is an abomination before the Lord. Peter states it should be done at age 8!
Can you tell me the verse
@@decunha75 The information in my post is from several sources and as the scriptures say...Line upon line and precept upon precept. Do you believe in Christ? I will assume so since your asking for scriptural verses. Baptism is stated in many verses so I will assume you believe it is required. (If not please say so and I will direct you to many verses for it. Age 8 is stated by Peter when talking about saved by baptism as in the days of Noah...8 were saved clearly defining age 8 for baptism. 1 Peter 3.
In order to learn as much truth as the Lord has revealed unto man, one must be willing to search and study and look for the restoration spoken of by Peter that was to come. Ask any questions but be precise in what you would wish to know.
@@decunha75 1 Peter 3:20-21..."Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ". Hope this helps my friend.
THEN. PETER. SAID. UNTO THEM. REPENT. AND. BE. BAPTIZED. EVERY ONE. OF. YOU. IN THE. NAME. OF. J E S U S. C H R I S T. FOR. THE. REMISSION. OF. SIN. AND. YOU SHALL RECEIVE. THE. GIFT. OF. THE. HOLY. GHOST. OBEY. ACTS. 2:38. FOR. THE. PROMISE IS UNTO. AND YOUR. CHILDREN. AND TO. ALL THAT. ARE AFAR OFF
Children and babies have inherited sin from parents and there are bible verses of children baptism. Acts 16 15 Paul and silas baptised Lydia and the whole household meaning all members of family including children and babies. Acts 18 8 Crispus and his whole family. 1 Corinthians baptism in the household of Stephanas. Hebrews 10 26 infant baptism. Matthew 18 14 it is not the will of God that children be same. Matthew 19 14 let the children come to me. Mark 10 14 let the children come for such is the kingdom of heaven. Luke 18 15 17 people were bringing infants to him. John 3 5 no one enters heaven without baptism of water and spirit. And the formula for is baptised them in the name of the father son holy spirit
It is not the will of God that children be damn Matthew 18 14.
Yes, we are a herd, we eat the grass of the field (information garbage) and look for a grain of truth in it. Everything as God ordered for the treatment of fallen sinners (Genesis 3: 18,21). The skins of the animal can only be removed through the tree of life (cross).
Not born again or born anew. Born from Above! Look into the meaning of the word. PS. Jesus was not a Jew
wasnt He?
11.03 I am a Catholic and believe in infant Baptism as taught by the Holy Catholic church, but to use the passage stating all his household to show infant baptism is not a good way to show infant baptism as his house hold could be many things, maybe he had no children, maybe all his children were grown etc etc.
I think we should leave people to believe what they want and pray for their salvation through Christ as it's hard to change a persons mind with arguements that are circular by nature. God bless
In Acts 2:38, Peter says to the multitude, “Repent and be baptized..” Protestants use this verse to prove one must be a believer (not an infant) to be baptized. But the Greek translation literally says, “If you repent, then each one who is a part of you and yours must each be baptized” (“Metanoesate kai bapistheto hekastos hymon.”). In Acts 16:15, Paul baptized Lydia and her entire household. The word “household” comes from the Greek word “oikos” which is a household that includes infants and children. We must read the NT in its original Greek to understand what is actually meant.
I was baptized when I was an infant but did not become reborn until I was 45. I was reborn not through Christ but through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guided me to Jesus Christ. All backwards
Please explain the term " born again " in the light of First John 5:1, not as you reading into and guessing as you do now.
This guy is so off. He said we need to understand it in Context, but then totaly ignores vs. 6 where Jesus makes it clear that the water birth is birth of the flesh, that is natural birth. And in Acts 2 peter speaks about baptism for the remission of sins, and the baptism he is talking about is the same baptism as in chapter 1 and that was the baptism of the Holy Spirit into Christ, and you will notice there was no water, just believers. Note, the word baptism, which is a greek word that simply means "Put Into" has nothing to do with water unless it notes it in the passage. For some reason every time in our english language we hear the word baptise we think of water, and yet it has nothing to do with it, in fact no where in greek literature outside the bible is the word Baptidzo {greek) ever used about water. Sure would love to debate this guy on an open forum, if he will agree.
I don't see where v. 6 makes your point clear. Sorry. I know you are stuck in your interpretation, but I don't find it compelling.
@@paulmiller3469 Thanks Paul. Notice he says born of the flesh, and look up that phrase in the Old and New testament, is is 100% of the time used to refer to natural birth. No where in the bible is there a salvation in the flesh. Your flesh is never redeemed till the church age is over (Romans 8), so it definately can not refer to the salvation of a person.
@@FBCTrona I think you are reading into the text with your assumptions, and haven't answered my basic question of how born of the flesh is connected to the previous verse. To say born of water means born of the flesh seems like a stretch, especially when talking about such a powerful Old Covenant sign and symbol as water.
@@paulmiller3469 The flow of the text is that when Jesus tells Nicodemus that He must be born again, that nicodemus is confused, and is thinking a second birth from the womb of his mother, so Christ says it twice more, once in vs. 5 and once in vs. 6. Vs. 5 and 6 say the same thing just with a clarification that for a man to be born again, he must first be born physically (Water / flesh) and then be born spiritualy. Now for someone to try to prove otherwise would have to show somewhere in the Bible where being born of the flesh (vs.6) has anything to do with salvation. A text can never stand on it's own, the scriptures are consistent to teach the same truth several times
@@FBCTrona Actually I believe Jesus said 'from above' and Nicodemus paraphrased that with 'again' in his follow-on question.
Peter said " You must be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ." Catholic " fathers " chose to do it their way. No name of Jesus, no Holy Spirit.
Peter said " Baptize in the name of Jesus Christ." The catholic church has chosen disobedience to Peter and God. Peter said first repent. No infant can repent.
The Bible nowhere says baptism is to be restricted to adults. The people whose baptisms we read about in the New Testament are adults, because they were converted as adults. This makes sense, because Christianity was just beginning-there were no “cradle Christians.”
We are born with a fallen nature, a nature that is separated from God as a result of Adam’s sin (original sin, not personal sin as when we reach the age of reason). We are not born in a state of holiness. We are born in a state of original sin. We have to be born again to become joined to God, to be in Christ, to become a member of the body of Christ, to be saved. We are born of Adam’s body into condemnation. We are born of Christ’s body unto salvation.
In the Gospel of John, Jesus says, “Unless one is born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). In verse 5 he repeats himself: “Unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.”
In other words, being born again is the same thing as being born of water and the Spirit, and it is a necessary condition for entering the kingdom of God. Jesus is saying that a man must be born of water and the Spirit-in other words, he must be baptized. The Bible tells us that you cannot enter the kingdom of God if you are not baptized.
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6). The Bible says that which is born of the flesh is flesh. Not only that, but “it is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail” (John 6:63).
Now, when a child is born, it is born into the flesh. But the Bible tells us that the flesh is of no avail because of the consequences of original sin. That’s why Jesus says we have to be born again. The first birth is birth of the flesh, but we need something more in order to have life.
When we are baptized we put on Christ (cf. Gal. 3:27). We are buried with him in baptism (Rom. 6:4). We become members of the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13). We receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38). We become a new creation in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17).
Adam is the representative of the flesh. Christ is the representative of the Spirit. When we are born physically, born into the flesh, we are in Adam. When we are baptized-when we are born again, when we are born of the Spirit-we are in Christ. Infants need to be baptized, just like anyone else, so that they can be “in Christ,” so that they can put on Christ, so that they can become children of God, so that they can become members of the body of Christ, so that they can be granted eternal life.
You say that infant baptism is not in the bible. That is true. So your church's infant baptism doctrine is ftom men not from God. You talk about an " age of reason" that is another doctrine of man not of God. There is no such thing as a certain age of reason. Baptism of the unrepentent is against the bible. Repentence is a requirement in the bible. You can sprinle or emmerse all day long and it accomplishes nothing if one is not repentent. John the baptist did not baptize the unrepentent.
Are you serious ?
Why did John baptize Jesus ? ( Matthew 3:11 )
Since Jesus was supposedly without sin , he had nothing to repent of .
Why John the baptist was not from the disciple of Jesus ?
Moulay Jalti Jesus wanted to be baptized so that he could “fulfill all righteousness” you have to remember he was setting the example for all of us to follow, fulfilling the entire will of His Father, & in Baptism the Holy Spirit comes upon Him.
The fact that he was baptized by John has always been an embarrassment to the church
The gospels offer no explanation for Jesus's baptism , apart for the meaningless explanation given in * Matthew 3:14-15 * ( to fulfill all righteousness )
Other passages , which indicate that Jesus did not consider himself sinless , are also an embarrassment to the church : Mark 10:18 , Luke 18:19
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That's protestant teaching where protestants concentrate solely on forgiveness of sins Jesus says to nicodemus that he need to be born of water and spirit John 3:5..He received the holy spirit when he exited the water Luke 3:22...baptism and to accept Jesus as your lord and savior is protestant teaching ,pastors teach you protestant teachings there's more to baptism than what they teach.. 1) to become a child of God 2) forgiveness of sins. 3) to receive inheritance 4) to receive the promise of the father ...the promise is also for children acts 2:39....children again(when the term used the whole household) acts 16:31.. The other topic is a different teaching about the word (good).? Jesus is God the second person of the holy trinity. But he does the fathers will. That's what he did to leave all the teachings for us.. Embarrassment where.. It's your imagination..
TO BE BORN : John 3:3
This famous phrase is also found in the book of the pseudo god KRISHNA ,
All we know that the Hinduism was before the Christianity 4-3000 years ago ,
The Ghanj river is used to be for those who want ** to be born **, is it an hazard or ......?
Peter said " be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ." The catholic church 300 years later made up " the trinity" and does not baptize in the name of Jesus Christ. Therefore not only is there no forgiveness , but there is no gift of the Holy Spirit. The catholic church chose to be disobedient to God.
Wow this guy is talking to people that don’t read scripture and trying to fool them too. Read your bibles but pray that God gives you understanding.
Pitre again changes the Word of God. He misquoted God. Jesus is The Word of God. Jesus said " You must be born again of water and the spirit." You must be born again of BOTH.