One of the best boot reviews I've ever watched. I really enjoyed the comparisons of the sole and frame stiffness. Plus the author's experience of both boots really gives you a thorough understanding.
I really love my otx for mostly plain terrain. Here are some marks. After about 250 km sole on one of my shoes began to glue off. Second: the canvas part (where OTX is written) is not so durable. Obviously it can hardly resist against icy snow cover when you trailblaze. My runs are up to 35 km, just perfect: relatively light, but has enough power to trailblaze through deep snow powder. Temperatures till -20 celsius.
How are the OTX on the turns? Do you telemark down? This is where I find they are not firm enough. Interesting to hear about the durability. My soles are still good, but the BCX that I use more frequently is starting to get worn on the inner side. At first I thought I was touching the boots when striding, but after more careful observation I am starting to think it's just wear at the flex of the shoe. It's still superficial for the time being, but keeping an eye out for it.
@@SwissFamily2000 I don't telemark on them as I don't have suitable slopes on my way. I make plow turns when needed and it is ok. But I agree that they are not stiff enough for it. Honorable backcountry youtuber Tom M says the same about OTX and even showed it in one of his videos. But again, in combination with my 210 cm fischer e99 crown they are making good job on flats. p.s. I reglued my boot in bootservice for cheap and it looks like new now:) +60km after regluing and going to add 25km tomorrow, looks solid. I watched your videos last year while choosing my first backcountry set. Thank you!
Very helpful, I especially like the view inside. I am interested in the insulation as my feet get cold easier now than they did when younger. I have an older version of the BCX 6 and the foot insert was very thin so my foot was on the bottom of the boot. When I added an insert the boot was too small with that insert. It looks like the new one is much better on the insulation. Thanks for showing that.
I use the older rossignol bcx11 which is like. Bcx675 but with a buckle cuff. I've tried the OCX boot and don't really see a place for it. I can walk grocery shop or drive even with a 75mm duck bill on the stiffer boot. I personally would lean towards a more scale race boot over the Ocx5 or go right to the bcx line the stiff sole is more hiking friendly
I'm in proces of choosing the right boots for otx spider 62 and your review is perfectly done and provoded me with a lot of i sights and things to consider. Tx👍 well done
careful to check your bindings because I think the Spider 62 comes by default with NIS. The boots in this video are both NNN BC. I believe the OTX comes in an NIS binding version.
They are not too stiff. I am teaching my 5-year old how to downhill ski, and using these boots on the groomed slopes. If anything I'd want them to be even stiffer. The more challenging part of groomed slopes is more the ski. If you're using the OTX line of Fischer skis they are really not meant for groomed slopes. Coming back to the boots, I nearly never use my OTX Boots anymore... only if I am doing a very chill outing with kids. Otherwise I find them too soft and not enough control on the downhill.
Swiss Family thanks for that info. I should have said groomed Nordic trails. Have you used either of these on groomed Nordic runs? How are they at striding? (Particularly the BCX6. I’m sure the OTX5 strides well)
@@ryanperham4486 Ha, sorry. So I use the BCX6 with the S-Bound 98 that don't fit in tracks. That said, I do pass a lot of cross country tracks and end up "striding" with the BCX6 quite a bit. It is perfectly fine for a couple of km and is flexible enough, but if you are going to be doing mostly groomed XC tracks then I'd go for a different combination. I recently bought the Fischer RC5 Combi. I am really happy with those, in terms of flex I think they fit somewhere between the OTX and the BCX. I've been working on a review for those, just not sure when I'll be able to post it. note that the RC5 Combi are for NNN NIS bindings... so not the right kind if you're going at all off track. I use the RC5 only when I know it will be 100% groomed tracks
I've never asked in the alaska bc, but I tried them on in the store and I am thinking of switching to them for my next pair. It seems like you can tighten the alaska better
@@calvinminer4365 the fact that the Fischer is difficult to tighten (maybe also because I have skinny ankles). I tried the alpina alaska in the store and it felt more secure around the foot. But again, I haven't tried skiing with the alpina s
One of the best boot reviews I've ever watched. I really enjoyed the comparisons of the sole and frame stiffness. Plus the author's experience of both boots really gives you a thorough understanding.
Thanks!
Mate, this is by far one of the best reviews I saw! Thanks for that
Thanks!
I really love my otx for mostly plain terrain. Here are some marks. After about 250 km sole on one of my shoes began to glue off. Second: the canvas part (where OTX is written) is not so durable. Obviously it can hardly resist against icy snow cover when you trailblaze. My runs are up to 35 km, just perfect: relatively light, but has enough power to trailblaze through deep snow powder. Temperatures till -20 celsius.
How are the OTX on the turns? Do you telemark down? This is where I find they are not firm enough.
Interesting to hear about the durability. My soles are still good, but the BCX that I use more frequently is starting to get worn on the inner side. At first I thought I was touching the boots when striding, but after more careful observation I am starting to think it's just wear at the flex of the shoe. It's still superficial for the time being, but keeping an eye out for it.
@@SwissFamily2000 I don't telemark on them as I don't have suitable slopes on my way. I make plow turns when needed and it is ok. But I agree that they are not stiff enough for it. Honorable backcountry youtuber Tom M says the same about OTX and even showed it in one of his videos. But again, in combination with my 210 cm fischer e99 crown they are making good job on flats. p.s. I reglued my boot in bootservice for cheap and it looks like new now:) +60km after regluing and going to add 25km tomorrow, looks solid. I watched your videos last year while choosing my first backcountry set. Thank you!
Very helpful, I especially like the view inside. I am interested in the insulation as my feet get cold easier now than they did when younger. I have an older version of the BCX 6 and the foot insert was very thin so my foot was on the bottom of the boot. When I added an insert the boot was too small with that insert. It looks like the new one is much better on the insulation. Thanks for showing that.
Thanks. I never used the old version so can't compare, but they are definitely warm!
I use the older rossignol bcx11 which is like. Bcx675 but with a buckle cuff. I've tried the OCX boot and don't really see a place for it. I can walk grocery shop or drive even with a 75mm duck bill on the stiffer boot. I personally would lean towards a more scale race boot over the Ocx5 or go right to the bcx line the stiff sole is more hiking friendly
I'm in proces of choosing the right boots for otx spider 62 and your review is perfectly done and provoded me with a lot of i sights and things to consider. Tx👍 well done
careful to check your bindings because I think the Spider 62 comes by default with NIS. The boots in this video are both NNN BC. I believe the OTX comes in an NIS binding version.
Very informative, thanks a lot for your effort.
Merci !
Many thanks! Good review.
Thank you!
Any idea where I can buy a replacement for the round plastic plug that anchors in the plastic heel strap? Thanks for the review.
Sorry, no idea :-( thanks for watching!
Are the BCX6 too stiff for mellow terrain? How would they be on groomers?
They are not too stiff. I am teaching my 5-year old how to downhill ski, and using these boots on the groomed slopes. If anything I'd want them to be even stiffer.
The more challenging part of groomed slopes is more the ski. If you're using the OTX line of Fischer skis they are really not meant for groomed slopes.
Coming back to the boots, I nearly never use my OTX Boots anymore... only if I am doing a very chill outing with kids. Otherwise I find them too soft and not enough control on the downhill.
Swiss Family thanks for that info. I should have said groomed Nordic trails. Have you used either of these on groomed Nordic runs? How are they at striding? (Particularly the BCX6. I’m sure the OTX5 strides well)
@@ryanperham4486 Ha, sorry. So I use the BCX6 with the S-Bound 98 that don't fit in tracks. That said, I do pass a lot of cross country tracks and end up "striding" with the BCX6 quite a bit. It is perfectly fine for a couple of km and is flexible enough, but if you are going to be doing mostly groomed XC tracks then I'd go for a different combination. I recently bought the Fischer RC5 Combi. I am really happy with those, in terms of flex I think they fit somewhere between the OTX and the BCX. I've been working on a review for those, just not sure when I'll be able to post it. note that the RC5 Combi are for NNN NIS bindings... so not the right kind if you're going at all off track. I use the RC5 only when I know it will be 100% groomed tracks
Hard time deciding between these and the Alpina Alaska BC.
I've never asked in the alaska bc, but I tried them on in the store and I am thinking of switching to them for my next pair. It seems like you can tighten the alaska better
@@SwissFamily2000 what makes you want to switch to the Alpina Alaska from the Fischer's?
@@calvinminer4365 the fact that the Fischer is difficult to tighten (maybe also because I have skinny ankles). I tried the alpina alaska in the store and it felt more secure around the foot. But again, I haven't tried skiing with the alpina s