Counter-Strike's Cheating Phenomenon
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
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Uncover the Forgotten History of Counter-Strike Cheats! From its humble beginnings in 1999 to the notorious CS:GO hacking scene, we explore the evolution of cheating in this iconic game. Join us on a journey through time as we delve into the weird hacks, cheating accusations, and the hacker vs. hacker phenomenon. Discover why Counter-Strike's cheating problem remains a persistent challenge and what we can expect in the future.
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Intro: 00:00
The Beginning: 01:02
The First Hacks: 02:11
The First Real Hacks: 02:39
VAC1: 03:10
Source: 04:48
LAN: 05:41
CSGO: 06:24
Pro Scene: 07:12
The Cheating Problem: 07:45
HvH: 08:34
The Future: 09:35
Conclusion: 10:03
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For everyone commenting about other games having cheating problems (you tf2 fans in particular) should realize that i’m not talking about current situations. I meant counter-strikes cheating problem goes way back and has “continued” to be a problem, as I said in the intro.
imagine having to re-iterate that you were talking about cs cheats when the video is titled "counter strike's cheating phenomenon"
@@RealJiren he didnt have to re state that he was talking about csgo in particular, he just said that csgo's cheating problem goes way back to 2000
roblox is by far the worst interms of cheating
tf2 has had a cheating problem for as long as csgo has if not longer. In new cs2 i hardly see cheaters, but in tf2 i still see at least one cheater in every casual queue.
@@user-mr4sl7vp9p tf2 is not as old as counter-strike
I remember talking to a few people in the HvH community back in 2018. Super chill guys, all pretty much telling me that they have no interest in ruining peoples fun with cheats, they rather ruin another cheaters fun by just cheating "better". But still, the fact that CSGO has a Hacker VS Hacker scene, or had, is just proof of how bad of a problem cheating in CS is.
this is what makes you guys literally insane because I've played for 10+ years and compete at the Global level. Yall are garbage WITH hacks. Guarantee you guys think I cheat because of my pure skill. Yes you guys ruin the game because you're psychotic and assume people who are genuinely good are cheating, just utter garbage. Dog water with hacks, you can play for 3 years and then download hacks and STILL SUCK. It takes 5+ years to get as good as us, who have 10+ years on our belts WITH NO HACKS. Get good kids. It takes YEARS.
Lies, HvH is the most toxic of the toxic
I hop into a HvH every few months (without cheats mind you, just to kill them and call them slurs) and they are all bottom of the barrel scum
Now a days theres still a bunch of us that are chill but a lot of us are gone and been replaced with kids and teens that try to be as toxic as possible
@@Bliss_Hop its always been kids and teens, when i was doing it from 2016-2018 most of us were 15-18, the older you get the less appealing the environment is. Its always been super toxic and egotistical
Im pretty sure you can disable vac on custom servers so thats how it works
"CS is full of cheaters"
TF2: we gotta pump those numbers up, those a rookie numbers
tf2 players love to remind us they exist. tf2 has around 65k player compared to 1.4m. why would valve care. they hardly care about counter-strike.
Gee. I wonder why the player counts have dropped so low. Cs has always been more popular because valve actually cared@@ByeBaybe
@@ByeBaybe nobody is even talking about that, mf just made a joke lol.
@@ByeBaybe 1. This is one of the most popular games on Steam, any dev would murder for such numbers. 2. If there were no cheaters, there would be more players. 3. TF2 makes absurd amounts of money from community crates etc. 4. If Valve wanted to, they could introduce battle royale in TF2 and turn it into fortnite. 5. Valve is not developing TF2 because it is not innovative project for them. That's all.
@@kvassinc drugs
"back in 1999 most people just wanted to have fun" wish we could turn back time
It all depends on what you find fun. I find it fun to play the game as competitively as possible.
wish i could be back 2000911
Wish we could turn back to 3000 BC, I miss hunting with Grank and Lorg 😔
@@Evandrusgay
You completely forgot VACnet which, being AI based, seams like a really important part of CS:GOs anticheat
and is also trash
You really trust vacnet. Come to reality my friend, cheaters have already bypassed it.
@@sirruffalot lmao, why so salty, butthurt?
It's also barely even doing much, VACnet. You'd think if it was AI whatever then you'd get a lot more bans.
@@sirruffalotpretty bad bait comment lmao
The thing I hate most is how paranoid this whole situation has made everyone. So many factors get overlooked and just get lumped into "he's cheating." It's always satisfying to have a good round/match and be on the receiving end of a hackusation, not so much in reverse.
You can't trust anyone. I've never cheated but I was also accused for using hacks. I played professional in CS 1.6 and even then I was accused to have manipulated recoil.
But I've seen a lot of 100 % cheaters (+Overwatch was a mess, >90 % were tri-factors) and I know that there is a dark digit. People with skill and experience can hide some hacks very well.
I used to think it wasn't so bad, if the game wasn't very popular.
Recently, a dead game came out and said they banned ~130 players. The average player count is ~500.
Online pvp is dead. @@exoroxx
@@exoroxx That’s the most annoying shit, people are decent at the game but still feel the need to cheat because they can’t get any better
Your comment makes no sense. You claim you "hate" how paranoid everyone is but follow it up with its satisfying to be accused lmfao.
@@lolsamftw Getting accused of cheating happens most on office
Meanwhile TF2
CS' cheating scene is wild. People seriously don't understand how many cheaters there are in the community. Any time I ask people they think 5% or less of players cheat. I'd venture to say it's more than 25%
Dude please never stop with the LBP sound effects and music. I genuinely love it and it brings me back ❤
Love the dude at 2:45 complaining that there are no old school players left... in 2001
I played CS tournaments in 1999-2000 and I remember we had to install Punkbuster, witch was an 3thrd party anticheat. Cheating in 1.0 1.1. 1.3 and 1.5 was tiny compared to the cheating in 1.6.
Was looking for this comment, thanks! I also had Punkbuster because it was needed to join a few servers
3thrd? The threthrd?
That damn application is near impossible to remove from your PC :(
Was at Dreamhack last month, and this kid a row in front of my squad was cheating his ass off with aimbot, wallhacks, util previews and skin changer, was really sad to see.
if anyone deserved doxxing it would have been that kid
Cheating is really raging in open qualifiers. And usually it's too late when organisers found out about it, sometimes only when players get the VAC.
@@vadnegru luckily in this case he wasn't competing in the LAN tournaments, instead he was just playing mm. Otherwise, trust me, we would've reported him to the staff at DH and gotten him banned from there 😁
@@Wavpro it's kinda dumb to cheat on lan. Last time i was on lan there were no free places and some people there just watched movies/anime, full screen.
@@themostfowlnah i think a ban is enough doxxing is just too far
I love silly kitties
Tf2: are you a joke to me?
I never played any CS game a day in my life, but watching the history of these games through these videos has been incredibly interesting. Awesome job my guy!
for god's sake, don't waste your time playing cs, is fucking hell
Sir, your music taste is absolutely excellent. The LittleBigPlanet OSTs & sound effects, the Bully OST, using Dave Drubeck's Take Five... Do not think it all went unnoticed. Top notch quality music taste, editing makes for a top notch quality video!
Hey you wouldn’t happen to know the song in the credits is? I swear it’s a video game ost or something
@@thatguy8617 I got you. It's the Palmtree Panic "P" mix from the Sonic The Hedgehog OST. ua-cam.com/video/b0L79dHcdH0/v-deo.html
@@lustYofficial sweet thanks man your a chad
SO REAL
dude when i was like "YO THAT'S TAKE 5"
This was incredibly interesting, I'd love to see a HvH video too like others have said, I don't know much about it and it seems like it'd be very interesting. I also love your editing style, it looks great and I'm excited to see more! (Also thumbs up to that madlad that joined the channel with the name "I have a foot fetish", wasn't expecting that)
lol do you not know how to search in the youtube bar? Literally search Brainless HvH cs:go matches and wallah, lol no wonder kids cheat....
has a retired hvh player
let me tell you, it's the most boring circlejerk you can participate in
part of the magic of it just boils down to custom cheats, that are easily detectable but very agressive
but after that, there's nothing exciting or new
@djungelskog2654 not wrong. I mainly still play to chill out and shoot the shit with people that I've been talking with for a while. Only interesting thing to happen now a days is when a new cheat or exploit comes out
if you think csgo is toxic, oh boy let me tell you about hvh.
It's fun to learn about the cheats and what they do and how they work but the community itself isn't worth a second to get into really, most popular hvh UA-camrs either stopped or just don't upload anymore
I actually spent about a year or two playing hvh from 2019-2021 and honestly it was the most toxic gameplay experience ive ever had. People were insanely egotistical and toxic and would ddos and dox people over really petty things. There were dozens of scandals and malicious things going on with malwares and cheat developers that made it super undesirable to be apart of. The core gameplay of hvh was super fun and intriguing but the community was horribly rotten
this is defenitely a youtube video
thank you for confirming
Yes.
Or is it?
hi how did u kno this??
there have been a lot of youtube videos, and this is one of them
the quality of these videos is something cs content has needed for awhile
hackers vs hackers is cool but the kids who act like they dont wanna ruin the gameplay for others just wanna have fun cheating is total bs kids who cheat just cant keep up with the skill margin and i like the bully music brought me back to good ole days
CSGO has so many anticheat measures: VAC, VACNet, Overwatch, Untrusted Bans, Prime and Trust Factor yet the game has to deal with cheaters in a constant basis.
This will still happening because the Source engine is so old now that literally the most newbie alive can code a simple cheat and roll with it.
Source 2 will cut down cheaters if Valve implement new things and new interesting measures, just like they did with VAC Live.
if they didnt turn off overwatch in september 2020 and fixed the working vac bypass that was made around same time and working till now, maybe it would look different. not talking about the fact that if you manage to get detected by the system somehow, you get red trust factor week-month before you get banned, and since this is the only way to get red trust it is basically valve saying "hey, you should sell/trade your skins and sell the account before it gets banned"
honestly would be better if they just installed a rootkit like balorant but who knows maybe that may also get bypassed some time in the future
@@negimox
Valorant cheats alredy got bypassed quickly... This is why rootkits are pointless...
there are already known cheats for cs2 and it didn't take long of course they try to figure out new ways of implementing antiaim fakeduck desync double tap etc but the basics like aimbot and wallhacks are today possible and i wouldnt be surprised if other stuff is also possible. Also a new engine mean new problems and exploits so new never been seen kind of cheat will be possible in the future
@@negimoxabsolutely not, rootkit AC will be a reason why i would not play a game.
Imagine a company release a massive online player FPS or action game with a way to entirely block hackers that would be the game of a generation.
games like valorant is close to achieving that, but it comes at a cost.
@@zelven6109you can literally scroll on tiktok lives for 20 mins and find someone streaming cheating in valorant and selling the cheats
as long as there’s interest, there will always be cheaters, let’s just hope our favorite games manage to make them a minority of the player base
@@zelven6109 what are you talking about, valorant is trying but its not even close, whole kernel based anticheat is just massive mistake, only hope are ai anticheats that are able to ban based on playstyle and performance and then save cheater playstyle profile as well as all hardware information so its impossible to create new account without new pc and vpn, sure some will be able to bypass it but it will require money and knowledge beyond most cheater capabilities
@@zelven6109 They are not even close to be cheater free.... It already got kernel access and still isnt perfect.. If Valve would make vac also a kernel anticheat, I assume it would be far superior to valorants
CSGO cheaters are either meme lords who use cheats to handicap themselves (found one who made it so they couldn't turn right for some reason), then the generic ones who just get Vacced hopefully
you deserve so much more subs, the effort put into these videos and top tier topics is elite!
pringlemuncher?!?!?! the muncher of crim
TRUE
pringlemuncher spotted
0:07 Team Fortress 2 be like 👁👄👁
Man this video is banging, the editing and all, keep it up man
PLEASE make a video on the history of HvH, it would be really cool
hes not deep enough in to the comm. I highly doubt he would with how rich and deep the history goes.
@somealtusername1331 with some help he could do some good but he will miss a few things. It's hard to cover everything
Isn't everyone in hvh insane
@@mlalbaiteronah it’s nothing but ego n circle jerking ones codin
@mlalbaitero not really but majority of the community are a bunch of edge lord teens that care waaaaaayyyy too much about hvh
No way, a fantastic, informative, and well edited video that ALSO uses sound effects and music from my childhood game series?? Instant sub
The less sweaty nature and not having to deal with as many cheaters made the 2000s and early 2010s gaming a lot of fun despite being more limited.
What? Early 2000s had EXACTLY the same problem...
The difference is back then there was waaay less ppl playing than nowadays...
crazy how cool the little cats are and how they make the video better
babe wake up, new goldec video
silly cats are the best
I'm surprised you didn't highlight the tracking data on recent vac bans issued. It has been trending downward for the last 6 months and has only been about 5-10 vac bans a day for over a month now. Pretty much all time lows. They clearly have shifted focus or something is seriously broken.
Only vac bans though? Bans from trust factordont count as a vac thry count as a game ban
they turned on the real VAC
Valve
Allows
Cheats
I would lean towards something is seriously broken. Most games I play in have obvious cheaters.
brilliantly made, you captured the whole thing pretty dead on, from the old cheating in 1.6 up to hvh in csgo. I agree that there should be a separate video on hvh entirely, there's quite a lot of things to cover actually. always love seeing goldec cover some cool topics like this, with some great editing
Cs2 will hopefully make it harder for hackers and cheaters to exist. Well this aged like milk
We need more video like this to give more pressure to valve to do a better job in their VAC. Thanks for your effort bro, really good job and if possible, it would be a great to list out all the cheat that VAC unable to detect now
Doing a better job is complicated, since Valve doesn't want to do the treadmill thing. One idea is unironically lure hackers in and make them rats and inside people, pay them off by giving them their own servers etc. However, that's never gonna happen because it's more profitable to make players give up a blood sample so they can play without cheaters
Fire vids as always ! The editing on the cats always makes me smile
this channel is awsome , too bad it dosent get the recognition it deserves
he has almost 50k subs
One change that came with csgo was the addition of official matchmaking so unlike plaing on community servers or doing manual matches there is no way to get whoever controls the server to ban a blatant cheater if valve doesn't - also one reason why many people play competitive on third party services (though not the only reason).
My friend were banned regularly in CSS servers. I actually also had a few false bans for aimbot and wallhack. I had A4tech X7 like office mouse and shot glock at the speed of the light. Some people got banned for anti recoil macros, but in some cases it's clear that it were just skill.
@@vadnegru yup, the risk was ofc overzelous admins
tbh i met more cheaters on faceit than on mm, because you can play faceit without buying csgo
ive been playing and watching csgo vids for 10+ years and easily you have become my favorite keep up the amazing stuff
Goldec going back to his roots i see
probably the only time ill actually watch patreon members
Another Goldec banger. LBP music and sound effects hit everytime.
Too good of a video to be true! Good job man! Keep working as hard as ever
I unironicly love the editing.
In CS source there were texture hacks that would just make all the textures on the map transparent, so if the server you were playing on allowed custom skins, these were completely undetectable by VAC and would only be picked up by server admins if they were blatant.
For competitive play you had to use compressed version with UCP(Ultra Core Protector), 8.1 was the latest i played with.
@@vadnegru Yeah I am sure it did not work for most servers. But apparently there were servers that didn't stop someone from using different textures. A mate of mine just mentioned it that it was usable on most combat surf servers and the more casual Dust 2 servers.
@@anoobplays386 i remember CW/MIX servers that doesn`t allow to go without UCP, good old Clan Wars days..
Very cool video. Love editing style. Keep making videos. Liam loves them.
i can say that tf2's bot problem is soooo bad joining a casual game is a coin flip that you get a lobby with no bots or welcome to bot city population you'r dead
The Little Big Planet various sounds effect and musics are a pretty good touch. Keep up the good work ! :)
The old little big planet sounds and music absolutely slaps
Dude, ur really underrated. Your video quality is awesome. Keep it up
A big part of the cheating story in CS is the design of the game itself. Compared to Quake or HLDM there is a huge pressure put on precise aim and position knowledge. Plus there's the punishment phase of being out for the rest of the round, making it frustrating if you don't have a baseline of skill. There's just a higher skill ceiling over all too - to the inexperienced player, high level play looks like cheating. It all comes together to incentivize cheating much more than any game that came out prior.
naaa the game was fun between 2000-2010, cheaters were found in 1 of every 100 matches and most of them were running basic wallhack to avoid moderators kick them, also Day of defeat was not a mess, i remember be in the middle, and in top 1-5 in 10-20% of the matches, the game is designed to move you with point a-b bombing with 2-3 main pathways, and 6-5 sub pathways, with more cheaters in the game they know where are you moving, so the pathways broke and become killzones instead, i lived those time and avoid play CS since then, now to populate the game it become a gabbling machine with the skins.
The urge of making a throwaway steam account just to cheat when CSGO became free is pretty hard to beat for 15 yo me.
Don’t do it bro
I used to do like sportscaster shit to entertain my buddies on HvH servers.
I vividly remember "Bobby Shmurda downfield with the AWP! he's dead.'
The HVH community kinda died down due to (from what im assuming) lack of free cheats being avaliable, and drama. Some big servers for HVH are pretty vacant now, and don't have as many people playing on them.
Ive also been told that due to fake-angle Antiaim being patched and being replaced with desync antiaim, as well as doubletap-teleporting and Axing (anti exploiting with lag compensation) its just got boring
Not really... it died down because of fake angle anti-aim being patched then being replaced with desync based anti-aims and very annoying to play against exploits such as Doubletap etc
@@wtfkayo thats true yeah, ill update my comment
Another banger of a video. Editing is on point. Looking forward to the next
The sheer number of cheaters is incredible. Casual can often be unplayable. Kinda sad.
your video quality is insane man love the vids, keep it up!
One thing I never understood is if a business like Faceit can figure out how to pretty much remove 90% of the cheaters in matches, how has valve never figured it out or even so just copied what faceit did. Crazy to think the solution is already in place or do Valve make money of faceit somehow and want people to buy that service 🤔
Edit: Just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the content, please keep making videos like this :)
As far as I understand it, Valve deliberately didn't want to go the Faceit (or the Valorant) route and employ an intrusive anti-cheat
Reason why they didnt go Faceit route is because Faceit is using intrusive kernel level Anti Cheat like Valorant did. It would kill the Linux csgo community, and people just didnt like intrusive kernel anti cheat because privacy reasons
Funny to see that people think that the anti cheat on faceit is harder to bypass. So many cheats out there bypassing the anti cheat on faceit without any issues.
@@risu7587 Well it works for Valo and linux users are a very small amount of people in comparison to Windows
@@bondv7 Ye that didnt happen tho, cheating issue is huge
Another Goldec video! you're videos are the greatest keep it up man
hacker vs hacker sounds like it'd be fun to watch ngl
Fantastic content here and even more smoother editing! Though I have a quick question, could you update the description of your video with all the music you used in it?
the quality of vids you made, man im a fan
You should make a video on movement cheating and the community, I think it will be interesting.
The editing on this video is so good. Be sure not to burn yourself out lol
there is one very notorious person on steam who has multiple accounts and cheats in all of them (semi-rage btw), mainly in casual hostage mode, 4000+ hours and still not banned
Man, I’ve played dozens of games now and can wholeheartedly say that CS2 indeed has plenty of cheaters
Great video! As a player from the Latin American servers is very often to see many sort of cheaters just doing their thing and it's frustrating, especially knowing they are -most definitely- not getting banned, but hey, that's the way it goes, I guess.
BTW, loved the "Little Big Planet" sound effects and songs, they really took my back to easier times! ❤
Brazil o Argentina?
You should try looking into earlier games like Delta-Force, Quake & RainbowSix if you want to dig into the cheating scene earlier.
I like the way you portray characters, where’d you learn to animate like this, and what application did you make it on?
I remember recently after they messed with the ranking system a little I started climbing fast, and after I hit lem its just hackers on hackers. Watching someone hit shots on me and globals with a scout like how I do in gold nova with no hacks is seared into my brain. It's soooo defeating to finally be able to climb just to realize most of the games at the top will just be hackers anyways.
I was playing daily to rank up and after hitting le/lem, I don't even want to play anymore because I feel like it's just hackers in every lobby. The sad part is that it's the hackers who go out of their way to pretend like they're actually that good. Pretty depressing.
Like some lf yall think mg is bad for hackers, just wait till you hit those high tier ranks where expensive hacks that hide it well come into play.
Good stuff man Keep it up!!
PLEASE make a video on hvh and the exploits it brings
Holy shit. This video is so underrated. I thought this had at least over 500k views. I wish the algorithms gifts you with fame.
Whenever I lose, the other team is cheating. Whenever I win, my teammates who were “spin botting” are actually just good at 360 no scopes.
I've been playing since the original cs version, it was so fun back in the day. Yeah hacking was horrible, it was fun being an admin on our clans server and was nice cause we could ban cheaters and an admin was always in the server. It was also nice having unlimited weapons and slapping people around who seemed to be cheating.
ohnepixel had 11 pauses on this video
i recognized the kero valve apology instantly lmao
man, ive been subbed for a bit, but your animation with everything is super unique and i love it, what software do you use
Sony Vegas and After Effects
goldec did you play little big planet cause hearing the noises and songs bring back nostalgia
LBP was my childhood
Hackers is a very wrong term for anything relating to the topic in question. A person using modified code or a bundle of exploits is a “cheater”. A developer of such software is a exploiter as they find issues in the games code and exploit them. A hacker on the other hand breaks into software and network systems to gain access to something and take control or steal sensitive data.
The lbp songs fit SO GOOD and the edit is really good Nice video brozeur
It’s really nice to see a progress bar on the sponsorship segment I wish I saw this more
Tf2 would like a word sir
cs:go's cheating problem will never go away, valve doesn't care anymore :(
"Cheating is a universally despised thing in most games"
this is the first video I'm watching of you and I'm really digging the usage of lbp ost and sfx
Csgo has a huge cheating problem. I remember having only 30 hours of playtime and encountering 5 hackers. They should get teamed up with riot to make a anti cheat.
Unpopular opinion, tf2 has a worse cheating scene than any other valve game. I mean they don’t even do ban waves
music choice is on point. I hear those nostaligic tunes and my adhd brain was hyper focused of the vid, nice work man. Good stuff. (Little big planet and sonic cd AYOOO)
This is an ACTUAL good documentary type video, it actually has humor and isn't just a sunny v2 copy and paste that is extremely overedited and overdramatic.
cats n csgo are a match
We let him cook. He cooked a 5 star vid. (Fun fact flusha isn't cheating, he had to predict where enemies would be since he used to play on a bad pc and since a lot of ppl started accusing flusha he decided to play with it and started doing sus stuff on purpose)
Dave Brubeck take five?!?! Bro not only makes good videos but also has good taste!
"Hopefully CS2 will make it harder for cheaters and hackers to exist"
who's gonna tell him
im surprised for a video about cheating in CS you literally didn't go over most of the big important waves of cheating throughout it's history:
-Cheat trolling w/ myg0t during the CSS days (from 2006 - 2011 they were a group of people trying to make trolling videos, and their backstory is interesting to say the least)
-people bypassing early ESEA anticheat during CSS days as well in 2006 - 2011 (despite having an "invasive" anticheat back in the day that would check your files, many people got around them easily lol.)
- movement cheating throughout 2018 to now (millionware, clarity, etc, its so prevalent that you could search up cheated bhop clips and you'll easily find it, whole servers are built around cheating for clips like it's a mw2 modded trickshot lobby)
there's so much more to go on about but this video could've had a lot more packed in that would've left the viewer more interested as to WHY cheating has become so prevalent and more about how people have been finding ways to get around VAC that led to valve finally revamping VAC properly for CS2.
It was meant to be a balanced history of cheating leading up to CSGO. I mainly wanted to get to where we are now without spending hours talking about the games before.
I just covered the basics if it wasn’t obvious and videos like this are already a ton of work. Keeping up with editing and scripting as just me usually only leads to about a 10 minute video. I don’t want to be a boring video essay youtuber that just uses stills of gameplay in the background for an hour. Sorry you were disappointed
@@goldecc the video was great, I wasn't disappointed at all, I just think that a follow up video about stuff like hvh, myg0t could definitely go well and I think giving some info before hand could motivate you to research it and make cool videos about it :D
gta 5 is worse my man
true
TF2 has more cheaters
man you’re editing is amazing
Absolutely laying the nostalgia on me not with the cs history but with the littlebigplanet soundtrack and sound effects. big fan