The opening jam goes with the montage scene, where the hard-drinking detective starts getting himself back in shape, ready to take on the Big Boss, single-handed.
For some reason I’m still chortling at this comment. There’s a hard-drinking detective...and he’s getting himself back in shape...disclaimer: I’ve had a gin.
Just work it out by ear with trial and error. It might take you a while at first, but with practise it becomes easier. Start by finding the root notes, then fill out triads. Major and minor chords are pretty simple, but eventually you can learn to quickly recognise even complex jazzy chords.
The section on EQ and rolling off the bottom end is so spot on. This is why I love Reverend guitars and their bass contour knob allowing you to roll off bottom end directly from the guitar. The rarely used Fender TBX tone knob is also great for doing this. I don't know why more guitar makers don't switch to a bottom tone roll off instead of the standard treble reduction. I've almost never needed less treble in a live situation and it's always the low frequency that get in the way.
Yes, more backing tracks please! Your thoughts at the end about dispensing with “lead/rhythm” distinctions is spot on. Swervedriver from Oxford are masters at using two guitars and effects to create brilliant textural and dynamic guitar interplay. They have also been doing wet-dry for decades. If you were ever able to get Adam Franklin and/ or Jimmy Hartridge on the show it would blow my tiny mind. They are likely a major inspiration to many pedal-heads out there.
As a guy that plays primarily in a modern praise and worship context I think that learning different chord voicings and thinking about where I sit in the mix has opened new worlds up to me. Great episode !!!
Dan is full of useful methods to extract unique and sonically satisfying sound from the guitar. Mick is always there with a solid and complimentary sound that contributes to the magic of That Pedal Show. Cheers to both for the lovely content.
Great video...As a bassist I spend a lot of time trying to convince guitarists to lose their bottom end...it's just not needed...especially Les Paul players.....I have some lovely sounding OD's that I use with my strat ( when pretending to be a guitarist!) that sound awesome in the bedroom and not so good in the mix. My boss OS2 sounds less good in the bedroom but great in the mix...horses for courses and the use of backing tracks works so well demonstrating this.
bassmandudge you are SO right! There’s a world of difference between the home player and the gigging player......everything I do is aimed at gigging, but so much stuff on the inter web is aimed at the home player...........these two numpties, sorry, geniuses get it right for both! Love it 😊👍
When I first started getting my feet wet in mixing, I was told "cut to make things sound better; boost to make things sound different." The idea of listening while you are playing and understanding where you sit in the band cannot be overstated.
I agree, whoever said it, likewise with bass-the drums are the rock thrown into the water, the bass is the ripple and the guitar is the splash. That’s how I like it anyway.
Malcolm here. A couple of things, absolutely loved the underboost bit. Mick, fan noise and hum are rock and roll, they tell me the digital world is silent...who wants silent? Top episode 😎👍
And a final comment.........”stop thinking about it as rhythm and lead guitar, just guitar parts in the song” YES! Absolutely spot on.........this has been one of the most enjoyable videos you’ve done guys..........loved it, and got lots of ideas from it! 😎😎😎👍
Having "big ears" is so very important when playing in a band. Carlos Santana came to mind as I watched this. His rhythm guitar work from the early years of the group was simply perfect.
Honestly brings to mind Angus and Malcolm Young. Some of the rhythm layers they created were simply brilliant. Shoot to thrill, Have a Drink On me, For Those About to Rock, and many, many more. They all used that method. Makes the sound broader and fuller. Great tips lads. It's amazing what effective tidbits you always bring to light. Keep it up!
That "overdrive as pad" thing is more or less what I do with my slide playing when with a band, or even acoustically with a singer-songwriter folkie artist, which I've been lucky to do on stage a few times now. Just quietly fill out the chords with long, sustained slides. It's dead easy to do, which is perfect for someone of my limited ability, and sounds great.
From about 33 min. to around 40 min was pure bliss. Such awesome sounds and awesome playing guys. Big bravo to whoever made that backing track for you too.
I thought this subject was something that I was pretty good at. The reason why I watched was a.) I'm a huge fan of the show, and b.) I thought it would help me explain these concepts to my students better. Thank you for reminding me that I know nothing (which is always good). This whole thing was awesome, and I learned some cool new tricks. This is hands down my favorite episode. Much respect to both of you!
Dave Weckl once said you should be able to play in time and with consistency to a metronome,- then turn it down, not lose the beat, turn it back up and still be just as much in time as before. Being a metal rhythm guitar player is very much about that. Steady as a rock even in the midst of headbanging, windmilling, jumping from monitors etc.,- you shouldn´t lose a single sixteenth. If you do you´re just not good enough. Back to practice. With a metronome going mind you.
With reference to your first point - best piece of guitar tuition I ever had, was when I joined a previous incarnation of my current band. We had just finished rehearsing a pretty basic soul classic and I was feeling quite pleased with myself. I turned to receive the thumbs up from the others, at which point I noticed the drummer (a brick-layer in the local steelworks) glaring at me. "Just listen to the f*@^ing snare" he snarled, as he proceeded to count us in again. I have done ever since and we are regularly congratulated on how tight our rhythm section is!! Once again, thanks for some more great advice that (this time), doesn't cost a fortune!
Aces guys! As a veteran who's been gigging now 50 years (and the first 40 strictly rhythm) I still learn things from you. As in all types of musicianship, listening is the key. IMO As a rhythm player also pay attention to the snare as there is where the drummer may "laying back" in the beat. If you fight him there, you will lose.
I know I'm a bit late on this, but the walrus monument tremolo LFO can be reset by tapping once on the tempo switch. Helps to sync up with the band with just one tap 👍
As a sound engineer the comment about the 200Hz to 300Hz low midrange frequencies and room resonance is so important. These are frequencies that pile up very easily and muddy up a mix extremely fast, and in both live and studio mixes I will cut some of these from almost every track, often very drastically. A lot of microphones have a natural resonance around 300Hz which really doesn't help! Also, that backing track sounds killer and I had to go and buy it. It's gonna be a lot of fun improvising some stuff over it
As a TPS “newbie” (I’ve been watching about nine weeks), I can confirm that this show does wonders for a man’s marriage. Nine weeks ago, I’d never used a pedal. I now have more pedals than Imelda Marcos had shoes, and the glances of admiration from my wife when I engage with finding tone and texture from my playing have reinstated me as the guitar-playing-rock-god of my household. And my kids think I’m pretty cool, too. Many, many thanks!
This is one of the best episodes I've watched. Super useful! Many of the things you talk about, I found out myself through years of playing in bands and jams. Magic begins when you start to connect brain, ears and heart.
Great subject. I think most of us naturally go straight for that killer lead tone but rhythm is actually more import. If only my lunch break was 49 minutes long ;)
TPS has evolved to become so much more than a pedal show, which is awesome in my opinion, always something cool to watch and learn. Cheers guys, keep em coming.
Recently moved from Berlin to Kentucky - and got to bond with new friends over TPS. Thanks for bringing us together guys. Awesome playing - look forward to playing more here and putting this all into practice. :)
Wow - you guys are getting more & more creative. Great intro & playing together. Love how you both Leave Space for each other, to sit in the mix. Makes me want to purchase a Tech 21 Q-Strip.
1. Dan and Mick. Nerds, yes, which is great, but most of all two truly awesome musicians. 2. 36.30 Yeah! 36.40 YEAH! Harmonic tremolo. Moving the whole track, still solid and clean. Wow. 3. Not sure if you think its a good idea. But how interesting it would be to hear you have a go each on a backing track then listen, compare, discuss and take off on massive tangents.
We rhythm players really appreciate this episode. I've been experimenting more with modulation in recent months and it's fascinating and rewarding. The Walrus Monument V. 2 is a great pedal, but I'm even happier with my EQD Aqueduct vibrato.
Playing rhythm gets me more opportunity to play. A lot of the band leaders I play with want a tight band where much of the time we do runs and fancy parts together. Thanks for covering playing with two guitars and not doubling.
Why is after watching this episode, I feel like my IQ dropped 40pts..."remember what we said...forget it", "mindless rhythm", "i have a real nasally annoying voice...everyone loves it".... really loving the "making it fit" series. This is awesome. Really gives context to so many previous episodes that you guys have done over the years. Truly grateful. Thanks guys!
Honestly, this is what makes me smile the most. Just turn the gain way up, volume down, hit a chord and let it sustain as a pad. With a nice tone that fits well, it’s zero work to play, but really adds to a song.
This is great! Pete Townsend in a live setting with The Who is a master class on effective rhythm guitar. Especially with inversions and staying in the pocket.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! There is so much wisdom and advice in this video and I’m so glad you’re doing more of these videos on rhythm guitar. More please! One side note, I learned the lesson about not being in the singer’s frequency range when my band got rid of our singer, a guy, and got a new one, a woman. With her on the mic, there is so much more room for the guitar - it’s amazing how that works!
Brilliant! Sending this video combined with the other one about playing two guitars together is the most polite way to tell the other guitarist in your band “get your shit together and stop ruining my day, mate”.
My Boss ME-70 had this ‘Hum->Sing Coil’ setting that was a savior for fitting my Blues Jr into our band mix in smaller settings. Sure it’s just an EQ with light compression, but… Turned my Fuzz and TS into very usable tones behind singer.
I love the concept of there being no such thing as lead or rhythm guitar, there’s just parts. I’m not in a band right now, but I was a while back, and that’s exactly the mentality me and the other guitar player took. Neither of us considered ourselves the “lead guitar player” or “rhythm guitar player”. One of us would write a riff and the other would come up with something to complement and/or highlight it. Depending on the song either of us could have been considered the “lead player”. It made the song the important thing instead of our own egos.
Man, loved those swells with the delay!! That's going to make some really fun stuff to loop and jam over. Thanks so much for explaining that! You guys are great, thanks for all the love.
Totally agree with your initial point about there being no lead and no rhythm, just guitar parts. Always winds me up at a gig when the soundman asks “Which one of you is lead?” It’s a bit like the Matrix, “there is no lead, you will see it is not the string that bends, only yourself”
I think the important thing to remember with syncopated delay parts is that the spaces you leave between notes is almost as important as the ones you hit! Some great points in here 🔥 Great stuff team!
So many GREAT ideas and suggestions in this video! I will be watching and rewatching this one for years to come! You've really done us all a service with your channel but, you've outdone yourselves today! Thank you, mates!
Barely 2 minutes and already I know this is going to be an epic show. Fantastic. Please do more pedal show's with backing tracks. Let us hear how they sound in a mix.
I'm actually watching this one after watching the last q&a you did and it's great, this is something that comes with time unless both players have experience, a few things that I would like to point out is definitely communication like you said in the q&a is key, FEELING your playing and the others guitar to me this is a big part, learning the songs is another thing so that both know where to do their own things, another thing is get your own tone even if the other person don't like it, you be you.
the playing in this show was GILGAMESH!!! Mick your lead over Dans rythem took my breath dude...best episode ever...tons of great tips....love backing tracks...love D&M drive...going to buy one in fall.
Question: Do we, as guitarist, ever use Unity Volume or gain? Unity Gain - A condition in a sound system or component in which the output level is equal to the input level, there is no amplification or attenuation, or a gain of 0dB has been achieved. Operational amplifiers, operating at unity gain do the least amount of work and introduce the least amount of noise into the circuit; this situation is optimal for setting proper levels and setting proper gain staging. An example as a guitarist would be that I set my compressor pedal level control to unity gain so my guitar is the same volume through my amp whether the effect is on or off. I don't want the compressor to boost or decrease the volume.
I think you guys know this and it's probably been said many times. But we need more episodes like this putting everything into perspective with a track. Easier said than done I know.
VCQ?: First, we were right who said keep using backing tracks (just bought both of them)... not just good musically, but totally demonstrates the point of the video. Would you ever use wetness vs dryness as a rhythm tool... maybe like the overdrive pad idea, but instead of gain, wetting up those strums to put that guitar a little further away from the lead instruments or vocals? Would that get too messy? Always played in a three piece so didn't need to get out of the way! Great episode!
Bottom end roll off is why i wire EVERY one of my strats with a G&L style PTB circuit. Master vol, Master tone, and one meg reverse taper bass roll-off. it works wonders for what you describe, and as a bonus, makes certain fuzzes sound cool as all get-out.
pls consider getting some mics in and doing an ep on vocals and guitar.....boss ve500, acoustic mixes, talk box....lead vox/player format vs backing vox/player.
There are not enough videos on this topic, it is in all our interest as musicians and guitar players to sit in with the other rythyms in the band and compliment the sounds being produced. Thanks for the tips and tricks, can you do another to expand into recording or live playing?
Dan, Mick and Fraser: that was great (again!) this week. The tracks and the playing - especially at the trem and modulation parts - were so good. Could have listened to that for hours.
Ha! We’re too complex and long winded for most people. Most people just want answers, and we’re here week in week out saying there really aren’t any. :0)
@@ThatPedalShow This is true of so many things. There are no answers, just better questions. And nuance. And complexity. Very much appreciate the TPS formula.
Loved the tips, but putting them in context by playing together and using backing tracks made this one of your best shows. Fun. Useful. Inspiring. Also congrats to Frazier who has produced a bass riff that many of us will be humming to ourselves for years to come!
Great show! Made me think. Tip of the hat to Frasier for the awesome backing tracks. I hope you enjoyed making this video as much as I enjoyed watching it.
After less than ten minutes, I find this episode very inspiring! I struggle sometimes with my rhythm playing. Sometimes I find myself thinking "man, this is f*cking boring", and this will help me think a bit differently and do something else. Also, less notes per chord is a good idea, I don't have to play the whole chord, I remind myself of that sometimes.
Mic - thank you for always paying attention to the background noise and trying to minimize it. But I’ll bet it bothers you more than it bothers us. You’re doing an awesome job man. Keep it up.
Great topic and you may have incidently hit on another concept...while both using the D&M drive, twinsies, your parts were a bit lost within the same EQ. Once Mick switched to the Wart Hog the two guitars had their own spots to sit. Similar to your EQ point for the vocals.
I would love an extended version of the opening track. Fantastic show! Incidentally, I have been playing guitar for 40 years (technically) but with no inspiration until I discovered your channel several years ago. I credit you two for my move from “basement rocker dad” to “basement rocker dad in a much bigger basement.” Thank you for all you do! You bring a lot of joy to a lot of people!!
Awesome, cheers Todd! We’re sure that track will crop up in a Pick N Mic before too much longer. In fact we’re renaming PickNMix to Pedal Jams. See if that brings any more viewers, otherwise they’re in the bin. Cheers!
More, more, more! Once a player has a few pedals, then it’s about learning how to play nice with others... more tips and insights would be awesome!! Break it down even more for us newbie bedroom players 🙏
Loved this. I'm in a band where the singer alternates between playing guitar and not, so sometimes I'm "lead" and sometimes I'm the only guitar. Fitting into the mix versus lots of space to fill (or not). For swells I have a DD3 - Volume Pedal - Wampler Ethereal. So I get the DD3 making the notes go a bit nuts, swell them through with the volume pedal and then let the Ethereal add a little more delay, reverb and the repeats give me enough time to drop the volume pedal back and play in the next swell. Lots of fun but it took me ages to get it right. Since starting to watch Mick play I've started using tremolo so much more too, when before I never would have used it. So subtle but becoming essential. Cheers gents!
“Guitar players need to understand the role of bottom end”. Absolutely, It makes the rockin’ world go round.....
The opening jam goes with the montage scene, where the hard-drinking detective starts getting himself back in shape, ready to take on the Big Boss, single-handed.
Gerry James Edwards ah nice comment. Ah yeah.
For some reason I’m still chortling at this comment. There’s a hard-drinking detective...and he’s getting himself back in shape...disclaimer: I’ve had a gin.
@@stewmcleod7315 Agreed, when does the hard-drinking detective get back in shape xD He just stops drinking long enough to sober up aha.
Just did a 6 episode binge of the wire and can confirm this.
Matias Ärrälä ken-a ha.
Thumbs up .. Vote more TPS backing tracks here, just maybe suggest telling chord progression as well as key. 👍
jeff during spot on, if you go to the store it says the Key.. I wanna know the chords.. need all the help I can get! 😆
Just work it out by ear with trial and error. It might take you a while at first, but with practise it becomes easier. Start by finding the root notes, then fill out triads. Major and minor chords are pretty simple, but eventually you can learn to quickly recognise even complex jazzy chords.
Check out guitar George, he knows all the chords.
@@benbutterworth7584Mind, it's strictly rhythm he doesn't want to make it cry or sing.
When Dan gets into his zone, I could watch and listen for hours.
The section on EQ and rolling off the bottom end is so spot on. This is why I love Reverend guitars and their bass contour knob allowing you to roll off bottom end directly from the guitar. The rarely used Fender TBX tone knob is also great for doing this. I don't know why more guitar makers don't switch to a bottom tone roll off instead of the standard treble reduction. I've almost never needed less treble in a live situation and it's always the low frequency that get in the way.
Yes, more backing tracks please! Your thoughts at the end about dispensing with “lead/rhythm” distinctions is spot on. Swervedriver from Oxford are masters at using two guitars and effects to create brilliant textural and dynamic guitar interplay. They have also been doing wet-dry for decades. If you were ever able to get Adam Franklin and/ or Jimmy Hartridge on the show it would blow my tiny mind. They are likely a major inspiration to many pedal-heads out there.
At around 38:00 was possibly the best sounding bit (to my mind) ever on TPS.
"It's the parts baby!"
As a guy that plays primarily in a modern praise and worship context I think that learning different chord voicings and thinking about where I sit in the mix has opened new worlds up to me. Great episode !!!
Greatest show opener ever. Very creative and inspired. More “in context” content please. Much ❤️.
Dan is full of useful methods to extract unique and sonically satisfying sound from the guitar. Mick is always there with a solid and complimentary sound that contributes to the magic of That Pedal Show. Cheers to both for the lovely content.
Great video...As a bassist I spend a lot of time trying to convince guitarists to lose their bottom end...it's just not needed...especially Les Paul players.....I have some lovely sounding OD's that I use with my strat ( when pretending to be a guitarist!) that sound awesome in the bedroom and not so good in the mix. My boss OS2 sounds less good in the bedroom but great in the mix...horses for courses and the use of backing tracks works so well demonstrating this.
bassmandudge you are SO right! There’s a world of difference between the home player and the gigging player......everything I do is aimed at gigging, but so much stuff on the inter web is aimed at the home player...........these two numpties, sorry, geniuses get it right for both! Love it 😊👍
When I first started getting my feet wet in mixing, I was told "cut to make things sound better; boost to make things sound different." The idea of listening while you are playing and understanding where you sit in the band cannot be overstated.
As a sound engineer and a (usually rhythm) guitar player, I’ve been saying this kind of thing for years! Great work as usual
So awesome on many levels Chris. :0)
Who was it that said 'rythm guitar should sound like the drummer is playing chords' ? I like this!
I agree, whoever said it, likewise with bass-the drums are the rock thrown into the water, the bass is the ripple and the guitar is the splash. That’s how I like it anyway.
Malcolm here. A couple of things, absolutely loved the underboost bit. Mick, fan noise and hum are rock and roll, they tell me the digital world is silent...who wants silent? Top episode 😎👍
Cheers Malcolm! You look great in Lycra mate! :0)
And a final comment.........”stop thinking about it as rhythm and lead guitar, just guitar parts in the song” YES! Absolutely spot on.........this has been one of the most enjoyable videos you’ve done guys..........loved it, and got lots of ideas from it! 😎😎😎👍
Having "big ears" is so very important when playing in a band. Carlos Santana came to mind as I watched this. His rhythm guitar work from the early years of the group was simply perfect.
Honestly brings to mind Angus and Malcolm Young. Some of the rhythm layers they created were simply brilliant. Shoot to thrill, Have a Drink On me, For Those About to Rock, and many, many more. They all used that method. Makes the sound broader and fuller. Great tips lads. It's amazing what effective tidbits you always bring to light. Keep it up!
Cheers M :)
The backing tracks really helped clarify what you were wanting to convey.
That "overdrive as pad" thing is more or less what I do with my slide playing when with a band, or even acoustically with a singer-songwriter folkie artist, which I've been lucky to do on stage a few times now. Just quietly fill out the chords with long, sustained slides. It's dead easy to do, which is perfect for someone of my limited ability, and sounds great.
From about 33 min. to around 40 min was pure bliss. Such awesome sounds and awesome playing guys. Big bravo to whoever made that backing track for you too.
I thought this subject was something that I was pretty good at. The reason why I watched was a.) I'm a huge fan of the show, and b.) I thought it would help me explain these concepts to my students better.
Thank you for reminding me that I know nothing (which is always good). This whole thing was awesome, and I learned some cool new tricks. This is hands down my favorite episode.
Much respect to both of you!
The bass on the opening track is awesome
That’s Fraser. New boy. He made this. Very talented chap!
@@ThatPedalShow has he got any music out anywhere?
Coming from a metal background, locking in with the drummer and having a picking hand like a metronome has always been important!
Dave Weckl once said you should be able to play in time and with consistency to a metronome,- then turn it down, not lose the beat, turn it back up and still be just as much in time as before.
Being a metal rhythm guitar player is very much about that.
Steady as a rock even in the midst of headbanging, windmilling, jumping from monitors etc.,- you shouldn´t lose a single sixteenth.
If you do you´re just not good enough.
Back to practice.
With a metronome going mind you.
My favorite guitarists have metronomic right hands
Except for Jimi -- that was his left😉
You’ve hit gold with Fraser by the way, great backing track.
He’s a talented young man for sure. Has a Tonmeister degree. Serious.
With reference to your first point - best piece of guitar tuition I ever had, was when I joined a previous incarnation of my current band. We had just finished rehearsing a pretty basic soul classic and I was feeling quite pleased with myself. I turned to receive the thumbs up from the others, at which point I noticed the drummer (a brick-layer in the local steelworks) glaring at me.
"Just listen to the f*@^ing snare" he snarled, as he proceeded to count us in again.
I have done ever since and we are regularly congratulated on how tight our rhythm section is!!
Once again, thanks for some more great advice that (this time), doesn't cost a fortune!
YAY! The reason UA-cam exists! TPS!!!!!
Aces guys! As a veteran who's been gigging now 50 years (and the first 40 strictly rhythm) I still learn things from you. As in all types of musicianship, listening is the key. IMO As a rhythm player also pay attention to the snare as there is where the drummer may "laying back" in the beat. If you fight him there, you will lose.
LOVE that bass riff and all that it can lead to. I think that's in my head for a while now.
I know I'm a bit late on this, but the walrus monument tremolo LFO can be reset by tapping once on the tempo switch. Helps to sync up with the band with just one tap 👍
As a sound engineer the comment about the 200Hz to 300Hz low midrange frequencies and room resonance is so important. These are frequencies that pile up very easily and muddy up a mix extremely fast, and in both live and studio mixes I will cut some of these from almost every track, often very drastically. A lot of microphones have a natural resonance around 300Hz which really doesn't help!
Also, that backing track sounds killer and I had to go and buy it. It's gonna be a lot of fun improvising some stuff over it
Opening jam was my favorite thing I’ve ever heard you guys play. Awesome layering and listening, brilliant.
As a TPS “newbie” (I’ve been watching about nine weeks), I can confirm that this show does wonders for a man’s marriage. Nine weeks ago, I’d never used a pedal. I now have more pedals than Imelda Marcos had shoes, and the glances of admiration from my wife when I engage with finding tone and texture from my playing have reinstated me as the guitar-playing-rock-god of my household. And my kids think I’m pretty cool, too. Many, many thanks!
One quick thing for improving your rhythm playing: listen to Kirk Fletcher. And do what he does.
right on
This is one of the best episodes I've watched. Super useful! Many of the things you talk about, I found out myself through years of playing in bands and jams.
Magic begins when you start to connect brain, ears and heart.
Great subject. I think most of us naturally go straight for that killer lead tone but rhythm is actually more import. If only my lunch break was 49 minutes long ;)
KEEP USING MORE BACKING TRACKS! 💪🏼 It’s a really effective way to learn about tone techniques. Great job guys.
TPS has evolved to become so much more than a pedal show, which is awesome in my opinion, always something cool to watch and learn. Cheers guys, keep em coming.
Recently moved from Berlin to Kentucky - and got to bond with new friends over TPS. Thanks for bringing us together guys. Awesome playing - look forward to playing more here and putting this all into practice. :)
This was one of the best episodes. Very creative and it inspired me. Thank you!
They've evolved well beyond simply comparing pedals!
Wow - you guys are getting more & more creative. Great intro & playing together. Love how you both Leave Space for each other, to sit in the mix. Makes me want to purchase a Tech 21 Q-Strip.
1. Dan and Mick. Nerds, yes, which is great, but most of all two truly awesome musicians.
2. 36.30 Yeah! 36.40 YEAH! Harmonic tremolo. Moving the whole track, still solid and clean. Wow.
3. Not sure if you think its a good idea. But how interesting it would be to hear you have a go each on a backing track then listen, compare, discuss and take off on massive tangents.
We rhythm players really appreciate this episode. I've been experimenting more with modulation in recent months and it's fascinating and rewarding. The Walrus Monument V. 2 is a great pedal, but I'm even happier with my EQD Aqueduct vibrato.
2:20: “That was fun”, “Yeah I think so” - gents, that was bloody incredible!!
Playing rhythm gets me more opportunity to play. A lot of the band leaders I play with want a tight band where much of the time we do runs and fancy parts together. Thanks for covering playing with two guitars and not doubling.
So this is the episode you guys decide to bring in at under an hour? I could have watched that all day.👍
Guys, that intro jam was epic. More of that please!
Why is after watching this episode, I feel like my IQ dropped 40pts..."remember what we said...forget it", "mindless rhythm", "i have a real nasally annoying voice...everyone loves it".... really loving the "making it fit" series. This is awesome. Really gives context to so many previous episodes that you guys have done over the years. Truly grateful. Thanks guys!
Honestly, this is what makes me smile the most. Just turn the gain way up, volume down, hit a chord and let it sustain as a pad. With a nice tone that fits well, it’s zero work to play, but really adds to a song.
This is great! Pete Townsend in a live setting with The Who is a master class on effective rhythm guitar. Especially with inversions and staying in the pocket.
You boys make me want to play guitar!
Best comment ever :)
These guys made me want to learn guitar. It's now been a year and a half!
JYelton do it
Thank you! I love videos where you are teaching with an authoritative voice.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! There is so much wisdom and advice in this video and I’m so glad you’re doing more of these videos on rhythm guitar. More please! One side note, I learned the lesson about not being in the singer’s frequency range when my band got rid of our singer, a guy, and got a new one, a woman. With her on the mic, there is so much more room for the guitar - it’s amazing how that works!
Brilliant! Sending this video combined with the other one about playing two guitars together is the most polite way to tell the other guitarist in your band “get your shit together and stop ruining my day, mate”.
My Boss ME-70 had this ‘Hum->Sing Coil’ setting that was a savior for fitting my Blues Jr into our band mix in smaller settings. Sure it’s just an EQ with light compression, but…
Turned my Fuzz and TS into very usable tones behind singer.
I love the concept of there being no such thing as lead or rhythm guitar, there’s just parts. I’m not in a band right now, but I was a while back, and that’s exactly the mentality me and the other guitar player took. Neither of us considered ourselves the “lead guitar player” or “rhythm guitar player”. One of us would write a riff and the other would come up with something to complement and/or highlight it. Depending on the song either of us could have been considered the “lead player”. It made the song the important thing instead of our own egos.
Man, loved those swells with the delay!! That's going to make some really fun stuff to loop and jam over. Thanks so much for explaining that! You guys are great, thanks for all the love.
Totally agree with your initial point about there being no lead and no rhythm, just guitar parts. Always winds me up at a gig when the soundman asks “Which one of you is lead?” It’s a bit like the Matrix, “there is no lead, you will see it is not the string that bends, only yourself”
Also, secondary point; couple of beers and That Pedal Show on a Friday night is my idea of a good time. Love this channel, please never stop
Been watching and listening for about 4 months. All great. This one really hits home for me as a guitarist. Love it. Keep up the good work fellas!
Dan's grin when he stumbled into depeche mode=priceless. This fantastic!
I think the important thing to remember with syncopated delay parts is that the spaces you leave between notes is almost as important as the ones you hit! Some great points in here 🔥 Great stuff team!
So many GREAT ideas and suggestions in this video! I will be watching and rewatching this one for years to come! You've really done us all a service with your channel but, you've outdone yourselves today! Thank you, mates!
Barely 2 minutes and already I know this is going to be an epic show. Fantastic. Please do more pedal show's with backing tracks. Let us hear how they sound in a mix.
I'm actually watching this one after watching the last q&a you did and it's great, this is something that comes with time unless both players have experience, a few things that I would like to point out is definitely communication like you said in the q&a is key, FEELING your playing and the others guitar to me this is a big part, learning the songs is another thing so that both know where to do their own things, another thing is get your own tone even if the other person don't like it, you be you.
Mitch and Noel were so lucky they had that Jimi kid! Touted for lead but sweetest rhythm guitarist!!
Appreciation for Stone, Mike, Eddie of Pearl Jam. Absolute masters of accompaniment rhythm playing...
the playing in this show was GILGAMESH!!! Mick your lead over Dans rythem took my breath dude...best episode ever...tons of great tips....love backing tracks...love D&M drive...going to buy one in fall.
Question:
Do we, as guitarist, ever use Unity Volume or gain?
Unity Gain - A condition in a sound system or component in which the output level is equal to the input level, there is no amplification or attenuation, or a gain of 0dB has been achieved.
Operational amplifiers, operating at unity gain do the least amount of work and introduce the least amount of noise into the circuit; this situation is optimal for setting proper levels and setting proper gain staging.
An example as a guitarist would be that I set my compressor pedal level control to unity gain so my guitar is the same volume through my amp whether the effect is on or off. I don't want the compressor to boost or decrease the volume.
I think you guys know this and it's probably been said many times. But we need more episodes like this putting everything into perspective with a track. Easier said than done I know.
It’s a new thing William. Seems to be popular so we’ll keep doing it until people start moaning. :0)
Thanks for my new band name: The Mindless Rhythm
VCQ?: First, we were right who said keep using backing tracks (just bought both of them)... not just good musically, but totally demonstrates the point of the video. Would you ever use wetness vs dryness as a rhythm tool... maybe like the overdrive pad idea, but instead of gain, wetting up those strums to put that guitar a little further away from the lead instruments or vocals? Would that get too messy? Always played in a three piece so didn't need to get out of the way! Great episode!
Dan there! Loved the intro. Mick there too! Lovely complimentary playing.
Great show, guys! As usual! Nice idea with the backing track, well done!
Fantastic intro jam, well played! And a great episode all around. Keep up the backing tracks
Bottom end roll off is why i wire EVERY one of my strats with a G&L style PTB circuit. Master vol, Master tone, and one meg reverse taper bass roll-off. it works wonders for what you describe, and as a bonus, makes certain fuzzes sound cool as all get-out.
15:30 ... guys you are killing it! Every time I think this channel can’t get better it does!
Love the intro this week. Fantastic example of two-guitar playing. Beautiful stuff!
pls consider getting some mics in and doing an ep on vocals and guitar.....boss ve500, acoustic mixes, talk box....lead vox/player format vs backing vox/player.
There are not enough videos on this topic, it is in all our interest as musicians and guitar players to sit in with the other rythyms in the band and compliment the sounds being produced. Thanks for the tips and tricks, can you do another to expand into recording or live playing?
Bravo guys. Really enjoyed this. The opening jam was really cool. Lots of great advice.
Dan, Mick and Fraser: that was great (again!) this week. The tracks and the playing - especially at the trem and modulation parts - were so good. Could have listened to that for hours.
How you only have 200k subscribers is beyond me:) should be another 500k plus.
Ha! We’re too complex and long winded for most people. Most people just want answers, and we’re here week in week out saying there really aren’t any. :0)
@@ThatPedalShow This is true of so many things. There are no answers, just better questions. And nuance. And complexity. Very much appreciate the TPS formula.
This was not only the most informative episode you guys have done but you also quick easy techniques for achieving these rhythmic tones. Thanks
Loved the tips, but putting them in context by playing together and using backing tracks made this one of your best shows. Fun. Useful. Inspiring.
Also congrats to Frazier who has produced a bass riff that many of us will be humming to ourselves for years to come!
Enjoyed every moment of this show.
What a GREAT way to start the show!!
We get to hear the pedals and all the sounds in context! Could this be the way of the future?
Great show! Made me think. Tip of the hat to Frasier for the awesome backing tracks. I hope you enjoyed making this video as much as I enjoyed watching it.
Love episodes like this. I always greatly appreciate them.
After less than ten minutes, I find this episode very inspiring! I struggle sometimes with my rhythm playing. Sometimes I find myself thinking "man, this is f*cking boring", and this will help me think a bit differently and do something else. Also, less notes per chord is a good idea, I don't have to play the whole chord, I remind myself of that sometimes.
Mic - thank you for always paying attention to the background noise and trying to minimize it. But I’ll bet it bothers you more than it bothers us. You’re doing an awesome job man. Keep it up.
To be fair, since Fraser has gone nuts with Izotope RX7 on the voice mics (never on the amp mics) we don’t have to worry so much. It’s great!
Great topic and you may have incidently hit on another concept...while both using the D&M drive, twinsies, your parts were a bit lost within the same EQ. Once Mick switched to the Wart Hog the two guitars had their own spots to sit. Similar to your EQ point for the vocals.
Totally yes!
You guys have now taken it to the next level.
Backing track jam at the start of every episode!! Love it!
I would love an extended version of the opening track. Fantastic show! Incidentally, I have been playing guitar for 40 years (technically) but with no inspiration until I discovered your channel several years ago. I credit you two for my move from “basement rocker dad” to “basement rocker dad in a much bigger basement.” Thank you for all you do! You bring a lot of joy to a lot of people!!
Awesome, cheers Todd! We’re sure that track will crop up in a Pick N Mic before too much longer. In fact we’re renaming PickNMix to Pedal Jams. See if that brings any more viewers, otherwise they’re in the bin. Cheers!
Chaps, once again you knocked it out of the park. Great advice, great playing, great sounds, great fun.
Excited for this episode, and you did not disappoint. The heavy 90s feel when talking about point 8 was on point.
More, more, more! Once a player has a few pedals, then it’s about learning how to play nice with others... more tips and insights would be awesome!! Break it down even more for us newbie bedroom players 🙏
the Fender Engager Boost is a marvellous quick fix EQ/Boost, quite as a churchmouse and doesnt change your tone colour at all!!😎
Loved this. I'm in a band where the singer alternates between playing guitar and not, so sometimes I'm "lead" and sometimes I'm the only guitar. Fitting into the mix versus lots of space to fill (or not).
For swells I have a DD3 - Volume Pedal - Wampler Ethereal. So I get the DD3 making the notes go a bit nuts, swell them through with the volume pedal and then let the Ethereal add a little more delay, reverb and the repeats give me enough time to drop the volume pedal back and play in the next swell. Lots of fun but it took me ages to get it right.
Since starting to watch Mick play I've started using tremolo so much more too, when before I never would have used it. So subtle but becoming essential. Cheers gents!
As a singer/guitarist, trying to communicate this to band mates. This is an excellent resource. Thanks guys.