I'm "classical," too, so I get all the criticism from purists, BUT we can learn a lot of useful info about Chopin through analyzing, exploring C's available options, trying add-ons and (thusly) appreciating all the more his choices. Secondly, ... why ever not? It's not "improving" upon Chopin, but going into the parallel universes he opened up through his own explorations of tonality. Thirdly, IT'S FUN! WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING FUN WITH MUSIC??!! And, WHAT A JOY TO GET AWAY FROM THE SCORE! THANK YOU! It made my day!
Studying choral and classic jazz voicing has actually helped my chord voicings tremendously, by helping my ear "find" interesting voice leading between chords.
It’s never too late to learn! I read through The Jazz Piano Book by Mark Levine and it really kickstarted my jazz learning journey. While jazz is really a different beast, learning other genres and how to improvise will bring new life to all your playing
When you start your journey from classical to jazz, the mark levin book is a tough read to start with I’d suggest you first learn to play with grids using apps such as ireal
The love the way Jeremy is able to add warmth to the melody in his right hand, while pushing the "rest of the band" in his left hand back from the "mic", just enough. Fantastic pianist.
I LOL'd at the Boogey Woogey (?) version and I very much prefer the swing waltz. I would not add extensions for every single chord to keep some of the beautiful simplicity from Chopin.. Every chord with #11 and b13 gets pretty boring too. Better use some add9, simple sus(4) chords more often. They are around much longer. Less extensios but more spread out voicings help, too. Well all should walk the bridge between the genres because that's music, too.
I've found that a lot of the better jazz pianists have classical sensibilities in their playing that make it sound more mature. Nothing over the top-- just subtle aesthetic choices that add some interest to the sound.
Good video- i know there are Chopin jazz groups i must say for me in Chopin's music there is such mastery of emotion and technique (Ballades ex.) it is the pinnacle of art. The depth of feeling i experience is one of the joys of my life. And the 2nd Nocturne isn't just a melody, it's a young man expressing yearning and he hears the crickets and then the clock. It's a half dream before sleep. If you don’t have the rubato and dynamics, it loses the reason it's great. The thing I love about jazz is it's its own place. Look what jazz did to showtunes - in a movie, i forget which one, they sing All The Things You Are, and it's a sentimental waltz- Charlie Parker comes along and changes it to a 4/4 swinger with a still modern intro- the ENTIRE feel of the song has been changed- and the feeling of jazz is more motion, the emotional response is different, because it moves different, the emotion is more modern as it should be. When I play Moose the Mooch- I'm astonished at its beauty it's as great as any melody could be. But that feel to me has nothing to do with Chopin. I think that's the reason Bill Evans didn’t go there. Chopin just means too much to me. But if you wanna mess with it, go for it- just never lose the appreciation and feel of his 3 am dream
YESSS!! And THIS is why I’m a Tonebase subscribing member. Jeremy plus Ben Laude, Daniel Lelchuk, all of ‘em! Best value in online instruction. Hands down. And most stimulating. 🤯 ❤ 👏🏻
I'm a classically trained pianist turned jazz pianist, and improvising on Chopin's nocturne Op.9 No.2 is one of my favorite jazz exercises... You gave me some great pointers 😊
If you like this approach, then definitely check out Eugene Cicero, his renditions of the classical cannon in a jazz trio setting is second to none imo.
Hey Jeremy, make an album of jazz Chopin please. Chopin is one of my favorites and I don't hear a lot of re-interpretations of him that satisfy my love of him. Your video is great, please record an album of Chopin tunes. Either a variety of his tunes or even just the same tune over and over but played in different styles. I normally don't like or comment on any videos but I did for this one. Good video man.
I love both classical and jazz very much (I’m currently a beginner-intermediate pianist being classically trained) so it was really fascinating to watch Chopin’s Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 get jazzified! They’re both great music genres so my eyes lit up and I started giggling when you started playing a Bossa Nova type Nocturne. I thought to myself..that’s actually possible?! haha.
and i think chopin wouldnt enjoy this transgender situation either because he was in 19th century what point are you actually trying to make? his environment would absolutely make him despise modernist music including jazz
I find this a very useful exercise. Taking a melody/harmony and varying on it. Sure, its not like the original, but it is developing your ear and style, and you can drift of in a new composition of your own eventualy 😊
I love to hear jazz pianists playing around with classical themes. You get the best of both worlds what's not to like? I particularly liked your short version in stride piano. I recently uploaded a stride piano version of Elgar's Salut d'Amour - no-one listened/watched it but I had great fun doing it. Really enjoyed your video.
As a jazz musician I prefer to play classical music as it was written. Jazzing it up just sounds like pastiche. Each to their own. What's the point when you can write a new tune or play altered dominants to your heart content on standards or create your own compositions.
Interesting of course, but ultimately wouldn’t say doing this improves on Chopin’s original work by any means. I’m biased as a classical musician and not being a jazzer - so my ear prefers the classical sense more than the 9th, 11th s, etc to jazzify the piece. FYI this is not a slight at this gifted man’s piano playing or being a very gifted jazz pianist, merely as my own opinion that this jazz interpretation of his work wasn’t as good as the original work. I’d like to see some other examples at some point! 🎹🎼🎶👍😎👍
This is utterly amazing, wonderful and totally enjoyable! I think the whole world should hear this and your other stuff too! I hope somehow Chopin is able to look down and dig this. I imagine that he, and all the greats, would appreciate the innovative ideas of yourself and others as we all move forward. Recently I've become familiar with Penny Johnson and her Bach. You have to check that out! She swings #14 two part invention in a delightful way, and she has lots of other stuff too. I loved this video! Keep up the good work! Flint Long
Great video. I was lucky to click on it especially considering that they informally title it "5 Steps to Jazzify your Classical Piece" within the video. Not sure who your target audience, but as a pianist, Iʻd have clicked on it quicker with the informal title.
It's very easy to connect with it and you do it amazingly, but when you call a Chopin boring, it's making fun of yourself and there's no need to apologize, the value of the one note in the Chopin context is immeasurably greater than anything you've played,
Super, I love the original (Nocturne 9. 2) but I like to play around and make variations. Yours are really very good. And excellent explanations! Excellent cannel! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I don't know why but hearing this totally puts my imagination in mind of Schroeder playing this on his piano in a Peanuts Christmas Special. It just feels like it would be so fitting for that.
These individuals owe much of their success to Chopin. Think about it: Debussy once declared, "Chopin is the greatest of all," highlighting how Chopin's groundbreaking piano work influenced him. While Chopin was indeed a genius in inversions, there's more to his brilliance. Upon analyzing his compositions, I've unearthed numerous unique elements that set him apart-such as his use of 9th, 11th, and 13th chords, along with other special chords frequently employed by Debussy. Some pieces contain unconventional yet beautiful harmonic progressions deviate from traditional classical harmony, extending beyond the usual I-V shifts in root notes. Furthermore, Chopin's incorporation of unusual phrasing, rhythms, polyrhythms, and song structures was far from commonplace before him, and these elements resonate throughout jazz music today.
@@jonathan130 Don’t think anyone can dispute the genius of Chopin. But he said play Mozart in memory of me. That’s how much he was greatly influenced by his works, in turn Mozart was strongly influenced by Bach. Debussy, though certainly not better and had great respect for previous composers, did come up with his own set of rules, taking harmony to a whole different level. Even by Jazz standards his harmony is more complex, constant unusual transpositions, inversions of compound intervals, and something he did ventured into which previous composers never did was the abandonment of melody, placing greater importance on floating ambiguous harmonies drifting into nothing. Not afraid to let the silence do the work. I don’t think modern music would we where it is without his contribution.
@@slapmyfunkybass Everything we have in music owes a lot to Bach. It's like a chain reaction of brilliance passing from one genius to another. As you mentioned, Mozart greatly influenced Chopin. Now, when you listen to some parts of Chopin's music, especially certain harmonies, they almost sound like jazz. And if it weren't for Chopin, Debussy might not have become famous. In Debussy's compositions, you can detect the influence of Chopin in the style and harmony, even though Debussy has his own unique style. Chopin also did some work with no melodies, just harmonies, like the 4th movement in his Sonata No. 2. Yes, Debussy harmonies are complex, and his methods are ingenious, but all of this builds on the foundation laid by Bach, Mozart, and especially Chopin, who dared to explore beyond traditional music theory. Chopin's innovative work with inversions, root notes, larger chords, and harmonies outside the norm was truly revolutionary, and Debussy admired and drew inspiration from it. Harmonies aside, I also stated that Chopin used odd phrasing, polyrhythms, rhythms and structure in some parts of many of his pieces, something that was never seen before, and again Debussy used this heavily in his music.I’m not saying that Debussy didn’t have an impact on jazz, I’m simply stating that without Chopin and others he wouldn’t be able to.
I love both of classical music and jazz. But it is truly sad that it is rarer to find jazz musicians admire "pure" classical music than vice versa. It makes jazz musicians look arrogant and even musically immature, and I don't appreciate that. Whether jazz musicians approve or not, "BORING" Chopin's music or other classical music has deeply touched and revived innumerable people's hearts and lives over centuries.
Thanks for watching, everyone! I hope these tips help inspire something new for your creative journey!
Thank you for giving us this video!
I would like one day to be able to do all this that you have done! 🙌👏👏
Very tastefully done!
this is fantastic and made my day.
That's so nice Jeremy.............cheers
You're awesome jeremy! Thanks for the video
I'm "classical," too, so I get all the criticism from purists, BUT we can learn a lot of useful info about Chopin through analyzing, exploring C's available options, trying add-ons and (thusly) appreciating all the more his choices. Secondly, ... why ever not? It's not "improving" upon Chopin, but going into the parallel universes he opened up through his own explorations of tonality. Thirdly, IT'S FUN! WHAT'S WRONG WITH HAVING FUN WITH MUSIC??!! And, WHAT A JOY TO GET AWAY FROM THE SCORE! THANK YOU! It made my day!
As a classical musician, I am thoroughly impressed!
Studying choral and classic jazz voicing has actually helped my chord voicings tremendously, by helping my ear "find" interesting voice leading between chords.
Cantábile.
I love classical.
I love jazz.
I love piano and I love Chopin, especially the Nocturnes.
This is amazing!
I am a classical pianist, and I would give anything to do what you do. Fantastic!
you are superir to this man
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@@00ffjkjkjk And just about anyone's spelling is SUPERIOR to yours.
It’s never too late to learn! I read through The Jazz Piano Book by Mark Levine and it really kickstarted my jazz learning journey. While jazz is really a different beast, learning other genres and how to improvise will bring new life to all your playing
When you start your journey from classical to jazz, the mark levin book is a tough read to start with
I’d suggest you first learn to play with grids using apps such as ireal
The love the way Jeremy is able to add warmth to the melody in his right hand, while pushing the "rest of the band" in his left hand back from the "mic", just enough. Fantastic pianist.
I could not suppress a grin at the rhythmic changes. The bossa-nova-but-still-recognizably-nocturne was very fun.
I LOL'd at the Boogey Woogey (?) version and I very much prefer the swing waltz. I would not add extensions for every single chord to keep some of the beautiful simplicity from Chopin.. Every chord with #11 and b13 gets pretty boring too. Better use some add9, simple sus(4) chords more often. They are around much longer.
Less extensios but more spread out voicings help, too.
Well all should walk the bridge between the genres because that's music, too.
Jeremy is just awesome, wonderful pianist and educator
hes a geezer sen him to the pits
I've found that a lot of the better jazz pianists have classical sensibilities in their playing that make it sound more mature. Nothing over the top-- just subtle aesthetic choices that add some interest to the sound.
classical pianist here the nocturne's the first piece I learned and this guy just gave me the key to jazz with this video!
Good video- i know there are Chopin jazz groups i must say for me in Chopin's music there is such mastery of emotion and technique (Ballades ex.) it is the pinnacle of art. The depth of feeling i experience is one of the joys of my life. And the 2nd Nocturne isn't just a melody, it's a young man expressing yearning and he hears the crickets and then the clock. It's a half dream before sleep. If you don’t have the rubato and dynamics, it loses the reason it's great.
The thing I love about jazz is it's its own place. Look what jazz did to showtunes - in a movie, i forget which one, they sing All The Things You Are, and it's a sentimental waltz- Charlie Parker comes along and changes it to a 4/4 swinger with a still modern intro- the ENTIRE feel of the song has been changed- and the feeling of jazz is more motion, the emotional response is different, because it moves different, the emotion is more modern as it should be. When I play Moose the Mooch- I'm astonished at its beauty it's as great as any melody could be. But that feel to me has nothing to do with Chopin. I think that's the reason Bill Evans didn’t go there. Chopin just means too much to me. But if you wanna mess with it, go for it- just never lose the appreciation and feel of his 3 am dream
As a classical composer, I'm loving this. I would trying slowing back the tempos, to give the melody more breath
Agreed
Oh and dont forget step 6 , years of hard work to reach this level of skill !!
Dont forget to ask a comment for the algorythm. I enjoyed the video, thanks. You exude experience.
YESSS!! And THIS is why I’m a Tonebase subscribing member. Jeremy plus Ben Laude, Daniel Lelchuk, all of ‘em! Best value in online instruction. Hands down. And most stimulating. 🤯 ❤ 👏🏻
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When you played the waltz the first time, it felt like a Bill Evans’ variation ❤
Man, this format is so dope!
I'm a classically trained pianist turned jazz pianist, and improvising on Chopin's nocturne Op.9 No.2 is one of my favorite jazz exercises... You gave me some great pointers 😊
I loved the stride rendition. The left hand jumps commonly found in Chopin are perfect for stride piano
So happy to watch and listen to your video, sir!
If you like this approach, then definitely check out Eugene Cicero, his renditions of the classical cannon in a jazz trio setting is second to none imo.
thanks! had never heard of em.
Hey Jeremy, make an album of jazz Chopin please. Chopin is one of my favorites and I don't hear a lot of re-interpretations of him that satisfy my love of him. Your video is great, please record an album of Chopin tunes. Either a variety of his tunes or even just the same tune over and over but played in different styles.
I normally don't like or comment on any videos but I did for this one.
Good video man.
@jeremy - this a lot of fun to watch. Thanks for producing.
I love both classical and jazz very much (I’m currently a beginner-intermediate pianist being classically trained) so it was really fascinating to watch Chopin’s Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2 get jazzified!
They’re both great music genres so my eyes lit up and I started giggling when you started playing a Bossa Nova type Nocturne. I thought to myself..that’s actually possible?! haha.
Да, джаз - это талант яркими красками по своему настроению , свободно создавать новое
Love it Jeremy!
I don't think Chopin would enjoy these variations, but I imagine Liszt would find it very interesting, indeed.
Important is only what YOU enjoy...😂
and i think chopin wouldnt enjoy this transgender situation either because he was in 19th century what point are you actually trying to make? his environment would absolutely make him despise modernist music including jazz
We don’t play music for the composer to enjoy!!!
I think he would've gotten a kick out of it, probably even inspired as he's a saloon musician and jazz would be right up his alley
dont diss liszt
Excellent and gorgeous lesson, causing huge passion to learn playing piano. Thanks
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Awesome video! I'd love to see more of these
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This is the best of both worlds!! It cannot get better than this!
If you want to skip a few of these steps, pick up the Classical Fake Book. It’s loaded with excerpts from many of the best pieces.
YESYESYES tonebase jazz is sexy
being a classical and jazz musician this content is fantastic to see
NONONO
Chopin be bopin'
I find this a very useful exercise. Taking a melody/harmony and varying on it. Sure, its not like the original, but it is developing your ear and style, and you can drift of in a new composition of your own eventualy 😊
All credit to Jacques Loussier
I love to hear jazz pianists playing around with classical themes. You get the best of both worlds what's not to like? I particularly liked your short version in stride piano. I recently uploaded a stride piano version of Elgar's Salut d'Amour - no-one listened/watched it but I had great fun doing it. Really enjoyed your video.
you get popoo
More videos with Jeremy Siskind please!
As a jazz musician I prefer to play classical music as it was written. Jazzing it up just sounds like pastiche. Each to their own. What's the point when you can write a new tune or play altered dominants to your heart content on standards or create your own compositions.
Good thing Chopin did exactly that to the music that was around at his time. He added complexity to what was there and made something beautiful.
Wow really impressive
Interesting of course, but ultimately wouldn’t say doing this improves on Chopin’s original work by any means. I’m biased as a classical musician and not being a jazzer - so my ear prefers the classical sense more than the 9th, 11th s, etc to jazzify the piece.
FYI this is not a slight at this gifted man’s piano playing or being a very gifted jazz pianist, merely as my own opinion that this jazz interpretation of his work wasn’t as good as the original work.
I’d like to see some other examples at some point! 🎹🎼🎶👍😎👍
dont aplgogise youre superior to this geezer m8
Oooof this channel is perfect…
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3:36 The Chopinooga Choo Choo?
This guy is so awesome!
You're so funny! What gave you the idea to do this? BTW, you sound great!
It’s just amazing.🔥🔥🔥
Thanks, man!
This might just be what I need to jazz
Food for thought .... and a lot of fun. Thanks!
This is utterly amazing, wonderful and totally enjoyable! I think the whole world should hear this and your other stuff too! I hope somehow Chopin is able to look down and dig this. I imagine that he, and all the greats, would appreciate the innovative ideas of yourself and others as we all move forward. Recently I've become familiar with Penny Johnson and her Bach. You have to check that out! She swings #14 two part invention in a delightful way, and she has lots of other stuff too. I loved this video! Keep up the good work! Flint Long
Brilliant as always!
bro u look lik edave huwizt lol
Fascinating!
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Beats original easy! 😃
👏🏆👏🏆👏
I can’t begin to imagine how chopin would react to this work
Really nice. I’m a classical guy that likes jazz, and I expected to hate this. But I thought it was great! Nice work!
youre wrong
@@00ffjkjkjk I’m wrong that I thought it was great? Wow. Thanks. I stand corrected thanks to your superior rhetoric.
Clear and digestible instructions! I’m inspired, thank you sir 🙌
Wow! So refreshing! 😯
Not sure if Jeremy is a better teacher or player, thanks a ton
Great video. I was lucky to click on it especially considering that they informally title it "5 Steps to Jazzify your Classical Piece" within the video. Not sure who your target audience, but as a pianist, Iʻd have clicked on it quicker with the informal title.
Great education!😎😎😎😎😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Thank you!
I like Sir Thomas Beecham's comment on Jazz way back then.
I think its funny how you try to play the actual piece in the beginning and one can instantly hear that your'e a jazz pianist 😂 great stuff!
Thank you,ToneBase. Longtime Jeremy Siskind Subbie. Go,Maestro.😎🌹😎
Very nice. It boils down to musical taste. You were reasonably successful with this one.
hi :) just excellent ! thx amigo !
cool I transformed this into jazz standard first time when I was 16 :))) really cool!
Great video. Wish the volume was louder.
3:50 Hey! You're nuts, I want more lol
My teacher used to scold me for talking back while playing, but I was only trying 1 Step to Sassify my Classical Piece.
Amazing video!!!
Please make more videos like this
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It's very easy to connect with it and you do it amazingly, but when you call a Chopin boring, it's making fun of yourself and there's no need to apologize, the value of the one note in the Chopin context is immeasurably greater than anything you've played,
Cool version as a Jazz Waltz, can you share the PDF leadsheet?
he dotn read sheet music m8 he jaaz
i play this piece, this clip is super interesting!
Victor Feldman did an entire jazz album of Chopin called “To Chopin With Love”.
I LOVE IT
You’re awesome, Jeremy!!! Thank you and keep the great instruction and playing coming! ❤️🎶👏🏼🎉
BIG YES
This would be Chopin had he been raised in New Orleans 😊
Lovely!
Super, I love the original (Nocturne 9. 2) but I like to play around and make variations.
Yours are really very good.
And excellent explanations!
Excellent cannel! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Please publish the sheet music. I beg of you🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I wish I could hit the like button more times.
Beautiful, great and interesting video😍😍😍😍
I usually thought of the 2 chords as a Abm6
Thanks a lot for this video. You have great skill and talent. Amazing !!!
Great content!
Love this!!
Chopin’s chord progressions is sweet, play it like a Jazz is like diabetes.
Lovely 😍
Masterful!!
Brilliant! Made my day🎶
I don't know why but hearing this totally puts my imagination in mind of Schroeder playing this on his piano in a Peanuts Christmas Special. It just feels like it would be so fitting for that.
Same here!
I've now added 5 Comments on 5 Steps to Jazzify your Classical Piece. Mission accomplished.
pathetic i have left more
Actually most modern jazz chords go back to Chopin. He just didn't compose it in blocks, rather intertwined cadence, melody, arpeggios etc.
Think you’d have to give Ravel and Debussy credit for that, Chopin did use advanced harmony, incorporating the 7th, but mostly inversions.
These individuals owe much of their success to Chopin. Think about it: Debussy once declared, "Chopin is the greatest of all," highlighting how Chopin's groundbreaking piano work influenced him. While Chopin was indeed a genius in inversions, there's more to his brilliance. Upon analyzing his compositions, I've unearthed numerous unique elements that set him apart-such as his use of 9th, 11th, and 13th chords, along with other special chords frequently employed by Debussy. Some pieces contain unconventional yet beautiful harmonic progressions deviate from traditional classical harmony, extending beyond the usual I-V shifts in root notes. Furthermore, Chopin's incorporation of unusual phrasing, rhythms, polyrhythms, and song structures was far from commonplace before him, and these elements resonate throughout jazz music today.
@@jonathan130 Don’t think anyone can dispute the genius of Chopin. But he said play Mozart in memory of me. That’s how much he was greatly influenced by his works, in turn Mozart was strongly influenced by Bach. Debussy, though certainly not better and had great respect for previous composers, did come up with his own set of rules, taking harmony to a whole different level. Even by Jazz standards his harmony is more complex, constant unusual transpositions, inversions of compound intervals, and something he did ventured into which previous composers never did was the abandonment of melody, placing greater importance on floating ambiguous harmonies drifting into nothing. Not afraid to let the silence do the work. I don’t think modern music would we where it is without his contribution.
@@slapmyfunkybass Everything we have in music owes a lot to Bach. It's like a chain reaction of brilliance passing from one genius to another. As you mentioned, Mozart greatly influenced Chopin. Now, when you listen to some parts of Chopin's music, especially certain harmonies, they almost sound like jazz. And if it weren't for Chopin, Debussy might not have become famous. In Debussy's compositions, you can detect the influence of Chopin in the style and harmony, even though Debussy has his own unique style. Chopin also did some work with no melodies, just harmonies, like the 4th movement in his Sonata No. 2. Yes, Debussy harmonies are complex, and his methods are ingenious, but all of this builds on the foundation laid by Bach, Mozart, and especially Chopin, who dared to explore beyond traditional music theory. Chopin's innovative work with inversions, root notes, larger chords, and harmonies outside the norm was truly revolutionary, and Debussy admired and drew inspiration from it.
Harmonies aside, I also stated that Chopin used odd phrasing, polyrhythms, rhythms and structure in some parts of many of his pieces, something that was never seen before, and again Debussy used this heavily in his music.I’m not saying that Debussy didn’t have an impact on jazz, I’m simply stating that without Chopin and others he wouldn’t be able to.
2:52 una corda spotted
Do you have a lead sheet for this? Would love it!
Look up Jacques Loussier
the first 1 min and a half is how you should study every single academic piece
I love both of classical music and jazz. But it is truly sad that it is rarer to find jazz musicians admire "pure" classical music than vice versa. It makes jazz musicians look arrogant and even musically immature, and I don't appreciate that.
Whether jazz musicians approve or not, "BORING" Chopin's music or other classical music has deeply touched and revived innumerable people's hearts and lives over centuries.