Something I don't see people talk about is how toothless reacted to Astrid and Stoick. With Astrid, during the flight scene he was being rough up until Astrid said she's sorry. Instantly he starts flying calmly and actually showing her the beautiful of flying. With Stoick, Toothless was holding Hiccup in his wings safely while Stoick believed he was dead, but when Stoick said he was sorry then Toothless revealed Hiccup to him.
It was almost like Toothless saw his and Hiccup’s relationship as more important than anyone else’s. He genuinely believed he was the best option to protect Hiccup at any time and any disrespect to Hiccup was disrespect to him and vice versa. You gotta love the relationship those two had man, they were there for each other no matter why
I interpreted this as Hiccup likes fucking with anyone until they apologized to Hiccup 😭 Doesn't matter if bros dad falls into despair after thinking his son died, gotta say sorry first
I feel like this is because when Hiccup helped toothless he said sorry and built him his wings. That's when they started to really get along. So now in order for people who do wrong by either of them, they have to say sorry first.
i mean, hiccup has always been a real G, he first shot down a dragon during an attack,a helped and befriended one of the the most rumored to be dangerous dragons, then subsequently learned almost everything he needed to know about dragons by himself, through just observing toothless's behaviour, then taught everyone how to ride a dragon. If anything, he became a millionaire without a startup.
@@gloomygloomstalker3878 A way to see it is that Toothless was probably touched by the fact that there was finally a viking that didn't want to kill him and Hiccup realising the same about dragons. If Toothless was any less like Hiccup, Hiccup would have been dead the moment he freed Toothless. That's a nice way to know you're similar at least to an extent
Nobody talks about this, but I absolutely love how STRANGE Hiccups mother is. She has been immersed in the world of the dragons for so long that she is acting like one at some points, when she’s intrigued by something, the way she talks and her body language. One of my favorite characters for sure. Also, while being more open minded than Stoic in the particulars of the Viking culture, it is so interesting that she is just as close minded in her particular set of beliefes. They are polar opposites, and neither of them willing to find a way across the ideological devide between them.
Yeah it’s like they’re both extremes and Hiccup is somewhere in the middle. Like he’s the bridge for both of their ideologies and that’s why he’s the one that makes the most improvements
I don't know if anyone else has said this, but Grimmel is also a parallel to hiccup, and kind of represents what hiccup could've been if he had killed Toothless in the first film. Grimmel is smart, and technically savvy, and Hiccup easily could've fulfilled that role if he didn't realize his true self.
@@bobbobbo5278 I can’t hate all opinions, but I’m missing out on httyd, I never watched the first or third movie only the second and a few show episodes.
Lightfuries are the original Nightfuries. NFs are a subspecies where they evolved to live outside the hidden world while LFs stayed. That’s why they have camouflage to hide in the dark while LF are white to reflect light to become invisible, which is why it’s harder for Toothless because he already has camouflage and dark scales that can’t reflect light as well
The first two films are great, the third one can be either great or controversial depending on if you consider the Dreamwork Dragons tv series canon, in part because the tv series expanded on the personalities of the other vikings so much that when the third movie uses them more for comedy, it can be rather aggravating that they are used in such one-note manners. Regardless, HTTYD is still a series that I enjoy, with movies that I can look back on fondly.
The thing is that the third movie does make subtle nods to the show. These can be dismissed pretty easily if you’re keen on having the show be non-canon though.
My main issue is that the takeaway message kinda contradicts the other two? 1 said "challenge stereotypes about others and use your brain to be brave." 2 said "people can change but some choose not too and that doesn't mean you can't keep trying on others." Despite the happy ending, I feel like 3's moral is "if people don't accept those who are ostracized, hide them until it's acceptable"
The general message of parting ways with your friends in a healthy way is great but the implications from the metaphor with discrimination make it kinda weak to me
Idk, it’s kinda hard to make the shows cannon in the films when the films are being made at the same time. Also looking at them on a critical scale, the 1st ones the best, and the next two are still great but the same level
The show is canon but unfortunately there isn't enough time to give the side characters much attention. It's very much Hiccup and Toothless w a little bit of Astrid
not just the perfect trilogy but also the perfected animated series "school of dragons" and "race to the edge". They basically took more depth showing the adventures with almost half the dragons shown in the series and how hiccup and astrid relationship developed. heck, even the 2 games adapted from them is nice. one where you play with a specific character raising dragons, fighting, racing, doing events and farming and the other is basically a city building game with dragons.
How To Train Your Dragon is a trilogy about a boy begging for, getting, raising, owning, growing with, growing apart from, rejoining, and finally leaving a dog. Toothless is the pet that Hiccup wants (or needs) to grow as a person, and is forced at the end to deal with the mortality of. That's why the trilogy sticks with so many people. It reflects many peoples experiences with getting a pet, growing up with that pet, and then that pet passing on in their early adulthood
Mhmm, the best part is that it is also a parallel to the best friend you had in school. Toothless (and all the Dragons) are hinted at being sentient, intelligent creatures in the first movie, but the next two (especially the 3rd where it shows they truly have emotional intelligence and self-awareness) truly do nothing but amplify the themes and parallels to life and growing up.
The Red Death(Dragon from the first movie) is the “queen” of dragons much like a wasp queen or queen bee type character where as the Alpha from Httyd 2 is much more like the Wolf pack type leader of dragons and has much more control over the dragons in a more natural way.
there are quite a few queens throughout the franchise (eg. the fireworm queen, she's so cool) but they don't really exhibit the same behaviour. there's also the green death (red death's sister, i believe) in one of the mobile games who is pretty friendly from my understanding. i think the red death was just a nasty dragon lol
@@pogpogpog7507 perhaps. I just say “Queen” of dragons as a catch all for the bee like behavior she seems to cause dragons to exhibit. I doubt that was the natural way dragons were but due to her large size and tendency to kill those she deemed lesser I would think she’s the “Wicked Queen” of dragons in proper canon. Though that could be a weird way of looking at it
@@adynholden9546 oh yeah she's canonically a queen. every dragon nest has a queen, and are referred to as such throughout the shows. most queens are defensive but otherwise aren't evil by nature. the red death is a bit of an exception
The ending of the third movie legit made me cry, I love the whole series and it has a special place in my heart. I remember watching these films with my mom as a kid
i dont know if you know this already, but hiccups sword is actually a thin curved bar, its not a weapon in the assault sense its more for parrying swords and for self defence and tricking the enemy, which i think speaks volumes about hiccups character and the passion these people put into their movies
this series has brought me to tears several times. i'm not even referring to what happens during the second and third movies (no spoilers. if you know you know) i just mean the existence of something so beautiful. every now and then i still listen to the soundtrack in full, when i was younger it literally used to bring me to tears because of how mighty and 'epic' (word ruined by the internet) the songs sounded, they were so impactful, even when the violins became quiet and subtle it still touched my heart. this franchise is such a huge part of my childhood (even the third movie still feels nostalgic even though it only came out a couple years ago) and it always will be. it sparked my love for mystical, streamlined, and mighty creatures- it's a huge reason as to why i'm still very much interested in palaeontology. i want to give everyone involved in this franchise a huge kiss. except for whoever is responsible for the nine realms, fuck that dogshit show, it unravels bits of the lore so unnecessarily and it's not even done right.. side note: while the light fury is cute, it doesn't make sense to me that night furies and light furies are separate things yet are only one gender- it would be fine if their offspring would only be one or the other depending on gender, but the night lights have both colours? maybe i've got it wrong? would love if someone corrected me! sorry for the ramble i'm neurodivergent and obsessed with nostalgia.
I think the light fury thing could be similar to like zebras and quaggas. Like they are very similar species, can interbreed but look distinct. We see multiple light furies in the background so it seems like almost a subspecies of this type of dragon.
One of my favorite parts of HTTYD is that it rewards you for watching the shows, it’s not entirely necessary, but it rewards you with great moments and callbacks. Like watching the Race To The Edge Netflix series, was the time between the first and second movie, and the big reveal at the end when it all ties together was fantastic
I was going through some really difficult stuff when i discovered the first movie, but the idea of freedom through flying helped me through it; this fantastical world of dragons gave me an escape. Then, the second movie introduced the idea of identity to me; not having to be one specific person - « you have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon. »Then the third movie gave me permission to let go. I got through the hard stuff, I had my escape, now it’s time to move on and focus on myself and my life. I adore this franchise so much, it made such an incredible impact on my life. I’m so happy to see people acknowledging it’s greatness :)
this is one of the ONLY ANIMATED Trilogy's to EVER MAKE ME CRY WHILE WATCHING IT, HTTYD3 is honestly my favorite of the 3 just because how Emotional I felt while watching it knowing it's the finale of the Movies. I love Hiccup and Toothless, easily hands down the best Animated movie Duo ever. I truly loved all the films to the absolute fullest. I will recommend these movies to anyone because they all are just that good.
I always figured the difference between a nightfury and a lightfury was comparable to a Labrador and Golden Retriever. Similar breed with a few different qualities.
My goodness I won't forget the time my mom took me the cinemas to watch the second movie even though we were financially struggling, but she knew I loved the the movie since the first movie I ever got on a DVD was how to train your Dragon.
i will never shut up about these movies the soundtrack is gorgeous the animation is gorgeous the characters look human while still having that hint of cartoon in their face and i know i already mentioned it but the soundtrack is just so perfect and so nostalgic feeling even when you hear it for the first time
Dreamworks just never missed with their trilogies stemming from the 2000’s (which kind of only includes Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon, but my point still stands)
I honestly hope that you talk about the Kung Fu Panda trilogy someday as well, because honestly it might be on the same level of greatness that How to Train Your Dragon's trilogy is.
I just like that his leg didn't magically grow back, they allowed him to miss a leg, and they show him adapting to his missing limb instead of reveling in his misfortune, it sets a good example for children that they can still do what they want within their limitations. It reminds me of a farmer that lost both arms from a young age and started using his feet for everything even while he was in the hospital, he just lifted the blanket up with his foot because he was cold. There's videos of him even working on tractors with his feet.
(SPOILER AHEAD) I actually thought Hiccup broke his leg in the fall and resorted in losing it due to lack of medical training, but my girlfriend said what if toothless had to catch him by his leg with his teeth which makes so much more freaking sense 😭😭😭 fire ending 🔥🔥
I love this summary of the trilogy. Love your takes on what happens and love your tier list of the movies. The third is def 50/50. Villain is amazing, the progression of character between Hiccup and Toothless is great, but every "side" character kind of just pulls it down. The "Main character" building is amazing in this trilogy, from Stoic, Hiccup, Toothless, Astrid and Gobber. But the "lesser" characters were so one-dimensional it brought the series down a chunk. These are my top loved animated movies and it's so heartwarming to see others share the sentiment
A lot of the things that happen in the second film are seen in the Netflix series, HTTYD Race to the Edge. Throughout the seasons it shows the interesting adventures Hiccup and the crew go on, as well as showing the creation of the contraptions Hiccup uses in the second film. Biggest examples being the flight suit and fire blade. On top of other references, towards the end of either season 5 or 6 (I sorta forgot) but it shows a scene/flashback of Draco threatening that he’ll be back, ITS A SUPER COOL SHOW IM BEGGING OF YOU TO WATCH IT
Growing up watching the shows between movies and getting so connected to the characters and then watching the third movie made it the only movie to actually make me dirty cry. It was something else
It was assumed that the large powerhouse of a dragon in the first movie was seen as a queen dragon species, like in a beehive. While the one in the second movie was the alpha/king dragon species.
The expanding world and development of the cast was amazing. I love the worlds in movies and tv shows that already exist and have us the audience try to keep up so on rewatches the lingo and terminology makes sense How to train your dragon with the Viking mirrors of finding a better way was incredible to see as well as actually seeing the cast grow up by the end as most movies and shows just have the cast grow mentally not physically and especially giving the main character actually damage makes for an interesting rewatch.
Ironically, after missing out for years after seeing the first movie, I saw the second movie a couple of years ago and now I’m trying to work my way through the animated series. Man, why did it take me so long?!?!?
something I liked was that before making the device that allows toothless to fly by himself he mentioned that he had build one before. this happened either in one of the series or in a speciual i am not sure
there hasn't been a film or series of films that's made me cry as much as this one, especially the finale like even this video i am sobbing and i had it on in the background
A detail I don't see talked about at all is when in the third movie Hiccup is saying goodbye to Toothless, the last thing he does is remove his hand from Toothless's head while he looks away. A direct callback to the first one where he first puts his hand Toothless's head while looking away, marking the start of their bonding. In the first one it was done to symbolize their beginning while in the third one, when it was done in reverse, it marked their end.
Anyone else think it’s weird how much Hiccup’s mom shrunk between the first and second movie? There’s no way she could fit into the breastplate that Stoick made into a helmet.
One of my favorite Dream Works Trilogies! I have a movie that is made by Dream Works called Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron. It has good animation, soundtrack (which is composed by Hans Zimmer and Bryan Adams) is so amazing along with a good story about freedom.
I hold these movies close to my heart, HTTYD has been that franchise I can always come back to, I have nothing but love for it, the other one is Lord Of The Rings.
The tv show "Race to the edge" is definitely aimed at a younger audience, but it really flushes out some character development between 1 and 2. Great background easy watching tv
if anyone here hasn’t seen the two filler series that take place between the first and second movies, i cannot recommend them enough. they give so much more context to some of the emotional beats in the second movie that makes them hit 10x harder.
Toothless is one of my favourite dragons. DreamWorks did an awesome job making this movie,and the story is amazing so are the chemistry between a boy and his dragon. People think that DreamWorks don’t make any good animated films.
I’m so happy i got to watch the first movie in the cinema. It was amazing. I was like 8 years old. It was the first time i felt so invested in the world created in a movie. I felt the characters, the music. When the credits started to roll i felt that i was a diffrent person. It had a big part into making me into the person i am today. Also i had a friend that really reminded me of hiccup. We watched this movie so many times. Unfortunately he died in a car crash 2 years later and when i went to watch the sequel i felt like i could see him again. So this whole trilogy holds a special place in my heart.
The reason the second movie will always be my favorite, is it's the movie that relates the most to the books. It's based on a series that ended being a 12 book series. The series was meant for kids but was drastically different from the movie, like first page of the first book and you'll see the difference. In short basically they were already training dragons but they treated them likes slaves rather than allies/pets/friends. The main conflict was to train dragons the book of "How to Train your Dragon" already existed in the universe and it had 1 instruction: Yell at it. So having a villain who embodied that aspect from the books was a breathe of fresh air that really brought the series back to it's roots. For anyone wondering what other similarities the two have the answer is simple: NEXT TO NONE. To list a few differences for ppl who are interested: the dragon's spoke and only Hiccup knew how to speak their language, Toothless was a common and garden dragon (basically the same as the terrors, the really small ones), the whole series revolved around a chosen one and the end of the world kind of theme, Hiccup had a separate dragon specifically for riding, toothless and fishlegs were both social outcasts and friends, a lot of the characters were mixed around such as Astrid, Ruff and Tuff were different characters all together. I could go on
I think the reason why grimmel is more intimidating than drago is because a) grimmels accomplishments are more impressive, nearly wiping out an entire species of dragon especially night furies as powerful as they are is more impressive than abusing a bewilderbeast from birth to control through fear to control other dragons through the bewilderbeast and b) drago is the shouting big buff raw power villain, grimmel is the smart, confident, slender type villain and the smarter the villain the more intimidating they tend to be, especially considering grimmels intentions
i remember watching the second one in the theatres with my family (we’re all big fans of the franchise) my dad actually teared up a bit when stoic dyed. i’ve always felt that he probably relates to hiccup and his relationship with his father so it probably hit harder than expected.
i remember when i finally caught up to the third movie, i had almost cried when hiccup had to let go of toothless because throughout the movies, it was a huge part of my childhood and it was like letting go of your childhood. everyone started out young and bonding's were growing stronger as the years go by. so i understand how hard it was for hiccup to finally let go of a close friend like toothless because they've done so much together and basically changed each other's lives. it's beautiful but so painful.
I like the scene where Hiccup ACTUALLY flies Toothless because it's literally just "save yourself, but remember that I'm on your back, helping you do that" and it's weird but for me I kinda started to see that it changed from Toothless basically taking orders, to actually letting Hiccup have an input because they'll just crash into the rocks and die if they don't work together
What’s great to me is when you include in a watch through the tv shows and mini movies, it’s not only a good story and journey for the characters, it’s a world I became obsessed with as they came out, I watched the shows, studied the dragons, I wanted to immerse myself in the series, I even played School Of Dragons the kid focused MMO.
The second one was my favorite, even though it has timing issues. The story progression in it it phenomenal, it just has awkward pauses in it that I feel were only put in there because the voice acting didn't line up with the music, but they were so pressed for time that they couldn't fix it. Also they don't have the whole limited shots and noise confusion in the second and third movies. The show actually does that part far better.
To touch on what you said on a lot of filler-they actually cut the flying sequence with toothless and the lightfury-which sucks because it showed more of her personality and cute moments of them playing in the sky
Not to pull an "achtualleey 🤓" moment but toothless' love interest from the third film is actually an entirely different species. You can see others in the scene where they go to the hidden world. That's also why their offsprings are hybrids Also the alpha dragon lore is explored and explained in other media iirc. There's several shows, several comics, junior novels, there's games but they're half canon most of the time. So much lore I love dearly
The scene where stoic died scarred me. My dad is a bigger dude with a big red beard so all I could see was him. I literally cried in the theater and I still get watery.
Kung fu panda is pretty close ngl. A true banger of a series and I hope he talks about it. Just with the underlying tones throughout the series are just crazy.
I don't understand honestly why so many people don't really like these movies for the longest time these were my favorite movies like the first movie I watched every single night for a whole summer (my family didn't appreciate that as much as I did) not only is a good movie but it's a good movie that has really good disability rep like how they did hiccup losing a leg it wasn't like a huge over dramatic scene it was just a moment of realization just really well done and the latest movie him modifying his leg while just using to get something off the top shelf or joking about it just so well done
In the scene in number 3 where toothless and the other night fury are up on the big pillar of crystals, if you look in the background you can see the dragos alpha from number 2
It just makes me so happy when someone else talk about your favourite movie with the same excitement and love you have for the movie. When people actually appreciate the details. ❤
Discovering this video is bitter sweet. On one hand I'm bummed because this was going to be my next big video essay. On the other hand, I am glad you did it first, because its much better than what I would have put out. Needless to say, I love these movies. I totally consider them one of the greatest trilogies of all time. Well done sir.
There also 3 series between the first and second movie. There called defender's of berk and riders of berk im not sure what comes first. but then after those two come race to the edge probably the best of all.
They didn't just survive the Red Death because of how Toothless showed Hiccup that dragons aren't fireproof on the inside; it was a combination of other observations and things he was told. Like, Gobber says to destroy a dragon's wings, so Hiccup has Toothless shoot the Red Death's wings. Hiccup also learned from loosing the cheat sheet that dragons have a tough time "braking" when falling from a great height, so what does he do? Takes the Red Death up into the stratosphere. All these factors combine to act as failsafes for each other. If they couldn't get it to fly high enough, they made sure the wings were inoperable. If they had the height but the wings were fine, they caused the distraction of igniting the fire inside it, where it's not fire proof. It's actually brilliant that Hiccup wins that fight using a combination of what Gobber said (destroy the wings), what Toothless taught him (not fireproof on the inside) and his own observation (dragons can't brake well at certain speeds/heights). He's taking inspiration from both sides of the coin, the viking and the dragon... and throwing in a little Hiccup flair to take the win.
I didn’t love the third film but I rewatched it the other day and it was better than I remembered - it was my other halves favourite of the three. I love all of these films massively. They’re comforting. Relatable characters, great score, great voice acting (I personally love Jay Baruchel’s acting in general), great animation. Loved this video.
Honestly, the second and third movies were good, but the original How to Train Your Dragon is a true masterpiece. Unlike the second and third movies in the series (and the majority of films in the genre), the original How to Train Your Dragon is so good that it doesn’t need a villain to create artificial conflict. The film is a coming of age story of a boy who gains acceptance by his father and community by being boldly and unapologetically himself, saving both his people and the dragons by daring to see the kindness in a seemingly violent creature. The conflict is internal, within Hiccup himself and his relationship with his father and community, and that’s what makes it so powerful and empathetic. Add to this the unconventional bond that Hiccup and Toothless form throughout the movie, and stunning flight scenes with beautiful visuals and a soundtrack that makes you feel like you truly are soaring through the skies on the back of a dragon, and you have a perfect movie.
I've been waiting for this one. HTTYD is my favorite series of movies and I remember everytime my mom brought me to place to rent movies, everytime I got the first movie. And Still do this day after watching all the movies countless amount of times, it still doesn't feel like it's lost its vibrance and it's charm. Love these movies and relate to them so much
When I’m tired of listening to Miss Rachel and I need something to put on for my son to watch, it’s either The Last Airbender/Korra, or the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy. Have them all on crispy BluRay and he and I both love them all, great choice 🤌🏻
Bro I love you. Your genuine, not over excited or algorithmic. You just make stuff you find interesting and like. I just want to make sure you know ALOT of people enjoy these type of vids to sit back a escape with for a sec. Much love
I really appreciate your takes on things in general. This is a really good trilogy to review but I'm genuinely glad to see your take on it. Much love man have a great day 💯
Btw there’s a couple of tv series that happened in between the movies and it’s just mind blowing how good they are I mean wow just wow. Ik u mite not have the time but I still think it would be cool if u Sall those(I’m half way thru the vid rn so if you mention them later on I did not know)
dude not gonna lie i just watched your lorax vid and i completely agree and after that as i scroll down i read how to traind your dragon and i froze like oh dear did my mans just make a negative review on my 2nd favourite trilogy of all time glad i scrolled a little further in all seriousness dude you deserve more subs like eazily 6mil cuz damn ur content is just that good
I love how realistically they portrayed Hiccup losing a leg after his fight with the dragon. It makes him similar to Toothless now.
Are you 5?
@@DeviantDork Are you?
@@DeviantDork because bionic said this at the beginning of the video
@@DeviantDork i was when i first watched it lmao
Congratulations, you understood part of this extremely surface level children's movie. im so proud of you
Something I don't see people talk about is how toothless reacted to Astrid and Stoick.
With Astrid, during the flight scene he was being rough up until Astrid said she's sorry. Instantly he starts flying calmly and actually showing her the beautiful of flying.
With Stoick, Toothless was holding Hiccup in his wings safely while Stoick believed he was dead, but when Stoick said he was sorry then Toothless revealed Hiccup to him.
Yes! This is one of my favorite little details too! It really shows how protective Toothless is too!
It was almost like Toothless saw his and Hiccup’s relationship as more important than anyone else’s. He genuinely believed he was the best option to protect Hiccup at any time and any disrespect to Hiccup was disrespect to him and vice versa. You gotta love the relationship those two had man, they were there for each other no matter why
I interpreted this as Hiccup likes fucking with anyone until they apologized to Hiccup 😭
Doesn't matter if bros dad falls into despair after thinking his son died, gotta say sorry first
Toothless holding a grudge so bad he he made Stoick think his son was dead for a period of time. Iconic
I feel like this is because when Hiccup helped toothless he said sorry and built him his wings. That's when they started to really get along. So now in order for people who do wrong by either of them, they have to say sorry first.
i mean, hiccup has always been a real G, he first shot down a dragon during an attack,a helped and befriended one of the the most rumored to be dangerous dragons, then subsequently learned almost everything he needed to know about dragons by himself, through just observing toothless's behaviour, then taught everyone how to ride a dragon. If anything, he became a millionaire without a startup.
LOL pathetic
Wasn’t a “rumour” how dangerous they were
what's funny is the dragon he helps is the dragon he shot down, so did hiccup just neg toothless into being his friend?
@@gloomygloomstalker3878 A way to see it is that Toothless was probably touched by the fact that there was finally a viking that didn't want to kill him and Hiccup realising the same about dragons.
If Toothless was any less like Hiccup, Hiccup would have been dead the moment he freed Toothless. That's a nice way to know you're similar at least to an extent
Nobody talks about this, but I absolutely love how STRANGE Hiccups mother is. She has been immersed in the world of the dragons for so long that she is acting like one at some points, when she’s intrigued by something, the way she talks and her body language. One of my favorite characters for sure.
Also, while being more open minded than Stoic in the particulars of the Viking culture, it is so interesting that she is just as close minded in her particular set of beliefes. They are polar opposites, and neither of them willing to find a way across the ideological devide between them.
Yeah it’s like they’re both extremes and Hiccup is somewhere in the middle. Like he’s the bridge for both of their ideologies and that’s why he’s the one that makes the most improvements
Stoic was the most stubborn, he drove away his wife and almost drove away his son because he didn't listen.
Like when hiccup uses the flaming sword in HTTYD 2 she turns her head like the dragons do
I don't know if anyone else has said this, but Grimmel is also a parallel to hiccup, and kind of represents what hiccup could've been if he had killed Toothless in the first film. Grimmel is smart, and technically savvy, and Hiccup easily could've fulfilled that role if he didn't realize his true self.
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This is acc so true
True self is weird
It's a concept that doesn't accept the fact that your true self could be a horrific person but you're good
Easily my favorite DreamWorks trilogy. These 3 movies are just so perfect.
Your not wrong but would you say the same thing for Kung Fu Panda?
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@@soelo592 i love kung fu panda, but httyd is better trilogy wise in my opinion. I love both tho 😭
@@bobbobbo5278 I can’t hate all opinions, but I’m missing out on httyd, I never watched the first or third movie only the second and a few show episodes.
@Soelo I recommend the trilogy, at least the first two bc I don't really remember the third. I never watched the show tho
Lightfuries are the original Nightfuries. NFs are a subspecies where they evolved to live outside the hidden world while LFs stayed. That’s why they have camouflage to hide in the dark while LF are white to reflect light to become invisible, which is why it’s harder for Toothless because he already has camouflage and dark scales that can’t reflect light as well
Exactly and you can even see couples of Light Fury in the Hidden World but no actual Night Fury. Toothless is truely the last of his kind
What’s up with their baby dragons though
@@calebalva7073 Well since they're sub-species and not two completely different species of Dragon they can still produce offspring with each other.
Wait where is this lore from?
@@johnernest5843 Probably the original book series I'd wager a guess.
The first two films are great, the third one can be either great or controversial depending on if you consider the Dreamwork Dragons tv series canon, in part because the tv series expanded on the personalities of the other vikings so much that when the third movie uses them more for comedy, it can be rather aggravating that they are used in such one-note manners. Regardless, HTTYD is still a series that I enjoy, with movies that I can look back on fondly.
The thing is that the third movie does make subtle nods to the show. These can be dismissed pretty easily if you’re keen on having the show be non-canon though.
My main issue is that the takeaway message kinda contradicts the other two?
1 said "challenge stereotypes about others and use your brain to be brave." 2 said "people can change but some choose not too and that doesn't mean you can't keep trying on others."
Despite the happy ending, I feel like 3's moral is "if people don't accept those who are ostracized, hide them until it's acceptable"
The general message of parting ways with your friends in a healthy way is great but the implications from the metaphor with discrimination make it kinda weak to me
Idk, it’s kinda hard to make the shows cannon in the films when the films are being made at the same time. Also looking at them on a critical scale, the 1st ones the best, and the next two are still great but the same level
The show is canon but unfortunately there isn't enough time to give the side characters much attention. It's very much Hiccup and Toothless w a little bit of Astrid
not just the perfect trilogy but also the perfected animated series "school of dragons" and "race to the edge". They basically took more depth showing the adventures with almost half the dragons shown in the series and how hiccup and astrid relationship developed. heck, even the 2 games adapted from them is nice. one where you play with a specific character raising dragons, fighting, racing, doing events and farming and the other is basically a city building game with dragons.
Riders and Defenders of Berk r also rly good TV shows
we do not speak of nine realms though
@@pogpogpog7507 eww
No such thing as nine realms in ba sing se, that thing can only be compared to teen titans go, it doesn't belong to the glory of the original show
@@lxlYukilxl too true
How To Train Your Dragon is a trilogy about a boy begging for, getting, raising, owning, growing with, growing apart from, rejoining, and finally leaving a dog. Toothless is the pet that Hiccup wants (or needs) to grow as a person, and is forced at the end to deal with the mortality of. That's why the trilogy sticks with so many people. It reflects many peoples experiences with getting a pet, growing up with that pet, and then that pet passing on in their early adulthood
Mhmm, the best part is that it is also a parallel to the best friend you had in school. Toothless (and all the Dragons) are hinted at being sentient, intelligent creatures in the first movie, but the next two (especially the 3rd where it shows they truly have emotional intelligence and self-awareness) truly do nothing but amplify the themes and parallels to life and growing up.
The Red Death(Dragon from the first movie) is the “queen” of dragons much like a wasp queen or queen bee type character where as the Alpha from Httyd 2 is much more like the Wolf pack type leader of dragons and has much more control over the dragons in a more natural way.
there are quite a few queens throughout the franchise (eg. the fireworm queen, she's so cool) but they don't really exhibit the same behaviour. there's also the green death (red death's sister, i believe) in one of the mobile games who is pretty friendly from my understanding. i think the red death was just a nasty dragon lol
@@pogpogpog7507 perhaps. I just say “Queen” of dragons as a catch all for the bee like behavior she seems to cause dragons to exhibit. I doubt that was the natural way dragons were but due to her large size and tendency to kill those she deemed lesser I would think she’s the “Wicked Queen” of dragons in proper canon. Though that could be a weird way of looking at it
@@adynholden9546 oh yeah she's canonically a queen. every dragon nest has a queen, and are referred to as such throughout the shows. most queens are defensive but otherwise aren't evil by nature. the red death is a bit of an exception
The ending of the third movie legit made me cry, I love the whole series and it has a special place in my heart. I remember watching these films with my mom as a kid
Bro i still cry watching the third movie
i dont know if you know this already, but hiccups sword is actually a thin curved bar, its not a weapon in the assault sense its more for parrying swords and for self defence and tricking the enemy, which i think speaks volumes about hiccups character and the passion these people put into their movies
How about the fact that in the show it is clearl6 shown as a sharp sword
this series has brought me to tears several times. i'm not even referring to what happens during the second and third movies (no spoilers. if you know you know) i just mean the existence of something so beautiful. every now and then i still listen to the soundtrack in full, when i was younger it literally used to bring me to tears because of how mighty and 'epic' (word ruined by the internet) the songs sounded, they were so impactful, even when the violins became quiet and subtle it still touched my heart. this franchise is such a huge part of my childhood (even the third movie still feels nostalgic even though it only came out a couple years ago) and it always will be. it sparked my love for mystical, streamlined, and mighty creatures- it's a huge reason as to why i'm still very much interested in palaeontology. i want to give everyone involved in this franchise a huge kiss. except for whoever is responsible for the nine realms, fuck that dogshit show, it unravels bits of the lore so unnecessarily and it's not even done right..
side note: while the light fury is cute, it doesn't make sense to me that night furies and light furies are separate things yet are only one gender- it would be fine if their offspring would only be one or the other depending on gender, but the night lights have both colours? maybe i've got it wrong? would love if someone corrected me! sorry for the ramble i'm neurodivergent and obsessed with nostalgia.
I think the light fury thing could be similar to like zebras and quaggas. Like they are very similar species, can interbreed but look distinct. We see multiple light furies in the background so it seems like almost a subspecies of this type of dragon.
@@nixnox1962 so kinda like how dogs have breeds? cuz that makes more sense than how i was thinking
@@taxevasion117 yea that's a better analogy lol
@@nixnox1962 thanks for the explanation!
They're the type of movies that, no matter how long you spend without rewatching them, when you do it, they are ALWAYS as good as you remember them.
One of my favorite parts of HTTYD is that it rewards you for watching the shows, it’s not entirely necessary, but it rewards you with great moments and callbacks. Like watching the Race To The Edge Netflix series, was the time between the first and second movie, and the big reveal at the end when it all ties together was fantastic
I was going through some really difficult stuff when i discovered the first movie, but the idea of freedom through flying helped me through it; this fantastical world of dragons gave me an escape. Then, the second movie introduced the idea of identity to me; not having to be one specific person - « you have the heart of a chief and the soul of a dragon. »Then the third movie gave me permission to let go. I got through the hard stuff, I had my escape, now it’s time to move on and focus on myself and my life. I adore this franchise so much, it made such an incredible impact on my life. I’m so happy to see people acknowledging it’s greatness :)
this is one of the ONLY ANIMATED Trilogy's to EVER MAKE ME CRY WHILE WATCHING IT, HTTYD3 is honestly my favorite of the 3 just because how Emotional I felt while watching it knowing it's the finale of the Movies. I love Hiccup and Toothless, easily hands down the best Animated movie Duo ever. I truly loved all the films to the absolute fullest. I will recommend these movies to anyone because they all are just that good.
That's interesting since par-3 is my least favorite I actually hate it so much
@@mylittlebrony2130 omg same i think they made it way too comedic for a last movie
Imo 1>2>3
I always figured the difference between a nightfury and a lightfury was comparable to a Labrador and Golden Retriever. Similar breed with a few different qualities.
My goodness I won't forget the time my mom took me the cinemas to watch the second movie even though we were financially struggling, but she knew I loved the the movie since the first movie I ever got on a DVD was how to train your Dragon.
i will never shut up about these movies the soundtrack is gorgeous the animation is gorgeous the characters look human while still having that hint of cartoon in their face and i know i already mentioned it but the soundtrack is just so perfect and so nostalgic feeling even when you hear it for the first time
Ive been waiting for you to do a summary on this and you did not disappoint.
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Dreamworks just never missed with their trilogies stemming from the 2000’s
(which kind of only includes Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon, but my point still stands)
I honestly hope that you talk about the Kung Fu Panda trilogy someday as well, because honestly it might be on the same level of greatness that How to Train Your Dragon's trilogy is.
I slightly prefer the KFP trilogy. I like KFP 1 and 2 more than any of the HTTYD movies, but I do like The Hidden World more than KFP 3.
I just like that his leg didn't magically grow back, they allowed him to miss a leg, and they show him adapting to his missing limb instead of reveling in his misfortune, it sets a good example for children that they can still do what they want within their limitations. It reminds me of a farmer that lost both arms from a young age and started using his feet for everything even while he was in the hospital, he just lifted the blanket up with his foot because he was cold. There's videos of him even working on tractors with his feet.
Yea thank god they didnt do a disney lol
I rewatched this trilogy last week, it's a gem.
(SPOILER AHEAD) I actually thought Hiccup broke his leg in the fall and resorted in losing it due to lack of medical training, but my girlfriend said what if toothless had to catch him by his leg with his teeth which makes so much more freaking sense 😭😭😭 fire ending 🔥🔥
Hiccup confirms it in 2nd movie while talking to his mother in the dragon cavern .
Fun fact: Academy award-winning cinematographer Roger Deakins did all 3 of the How To Train Your Dragon films.
I love this summary of the trilogy.
Love your takes on what happens and love your tier list of the movies.
The third is def 50/50. Villain is amazing, the progression of character between Hiccup and Toothless is great, but every "side" character kind of just pulls it down.
The "Main character" building is amazing in this trilogy, from Stoic, Hiccup, Toothless, Astrid and Gobber. But the "lesser" characters were so one-dimensional it brought the series down a chunk.
These are my top loved animated movies and it's so heartwarming to see others share the sentiment
A lot of the things that happen in the second film are seen in the Netflix series, HTTYD Race to the Edge.
Throughout the seasons it shows the interesting adventures Hiccup and the crew go on, as well as showing the creation of the contraptions Hiccup uses in the second film.
Biggest examples being the flight suit and fire blade.
On top of other references, towards the end of either season 5 or 6 (I sorta forgot) but it shows a scene/flashback of Draco threatening that he’ll be back,
ITS A SUPER COOL SHOW IM BEGGING OF YOU TO WATCH IT
Growing up watching the shows between movies and getting so connected to the characters and then watching the third movie made it the only movie to actually make me dirty cry. It was something else
It was assumed that the large powerhouse of a dragon in the first movie was seen as a queen dragon species, like in a beehive. While the one in the second movie was the alpha/king dragon species.
Jay Baruchel as hiccup is Probably my favorite vocal performance ever.
Couldn't agree more these are some of my favorite animated flims of all time and it is the perfect trilogy
Its a subspecies called LightFuries.
They called their babies Nightlights.
Drago is a reflection of Stoick. How you cant train Change into others
The expanding world and development of the cast was amazing. I love the worlds in movies and tv shows that already exist and have us the audience try to keep up so on rewatches the lingo and terminology makes sense
How to train your dragon with the Viking mirrors of finding a better way was incredible to see as well as actually seeing the cast grow up by the end as most movies and shows just have the cast grow mentally not physically and especially giving the main character actually damage makes for an interesting rewatch.
Ironically, after missing out for years after seeing the first movie, I saw the second movie a couple of years ago and now I’m trying to work my way through the animated series. Man, why did it take me so long?!?!?
something I liked was that before making the device that allows toothless to fly by himself he mentioned that he had build one before. this happened either in one of the series or in a speciual i am not sure
there hasn't been a film or series of films that's made me cry as much as this one, especially the finale like even this video i am sobbing and i had it on in the background
A detail I don't see talked about at all is when in the third movie Hiccup is saying goodbye to Toothless, the last thing he does is remove his hand from Toothless's head while he looks away. A direct callback to the first one where he first puts his hand Toothless's head while looking away, marking the start of their bonding. In the first one it was done to symbolize their beginning while in the third one, when it was done in reverse, it marked their end.
Anyone else think it’s weird how much Hiccup’s mom shrunk between the first and second movie? There’s no way she could fit into the breastplate that Stoick made into a helmet.
One of my favorite Dream Works Trilogies! I have a movie that is made by Dream Works called Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron. It has good animation, soundtrack (which is composed by Hans Zimmer and Bryan Adams) is so amazing along with a good story about freedom.
YES PLEASE SPIRIT FANS RISE
I hold these movies close to my heart, HTTYD has been that franchise I can always come back to, I have nothing but love for it, the other one is Lord Of The Rings.
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I'm pretty sure he got angry specifically because Hiccup threw his helmet on the ground... which was something very sentimental to him
Jonsi's music present in all of these movies with the soundtracktrack is probably the best soundtrack I've ever listened to.
The tv show "Race to the edge" is definitely aimed at a younger audience, but it really flushes out some character development between 1 and 2. Great background easy watching tv
I wouldn’t say that bro...
There is ton’s of violence...adult jokes...and...s**ually tense moments between hiccup and astrid
if anyone here hasn’t seen the two filler series that take place between the first and second movies, i cannot recommend them enough. they give so much more context to some of the emotional beats in the second movie that makes them hit 10x harder.
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Toothless is one of my favourite dragons. DreamWorks did an awesome job making this movie,and the story is amazing so are the chemistry between a boy and his dragon. People think that DreamWorks don’t make any good animated films.
There is another perfect trilogy out there. It's the trunk monkey commercials.
I’m so happy i got to watch the first movie in the cinema. It was amazing. I was like 8 years old. It was the first time i felt so invested in the world created in a movie. I felt the characters, the music. When the credits started to roll i felt that i was a diffrent person. It had a big part into making me into the person i am today. Also i had a friend that really reminded me of hiccup. We watched this movie so many times. Unfortunately he died in a car crash 2 years later and when i went to watch the sequel i felt like i could see him again. So this whole trilogy holds a special place in my heart.
I’m so sorry for your loss 💜🙏
The reason the second movie will always be my favorite, is it's the movie that relates the most to the books. It's based on a series that ended being a 12 book series. The series was meant for kids but was drastically different from the movie, like first page of the first book and you'll see the difference. In short basically they were already training dragons but they treated them likes slaves rather than allies/pets/friends. The main conflict was to train dragons the book of "How to Train your Dragon" already existed in the universe and it had 1 instruction: Yell at it. So having a villain who embodied that aspect from the books was a breathe of fresh air that really brought the series back to it's roots. For anyone wondering what other similarities the two have the answer is simple: NEXT TO NONE.
To list a few differences for ppl who are interested: the dragon's spoke and only Hiccup knew how to speak their language, Toothless was a common and garden dragon (basically the same as the terrors, the really small ones), the whole series revolved around a chosen one and the end of the world kind of theme, Hiccup had a separate dragon specifically for riding, toothless and fishlegs were both social outcasts and friends, a lot of the characters were mixed around such as Astrid, Ruff and Tuff were different characters all together. I could go on
that's really you're reason? the second easily has the most problems out of all of the movie's
@@jessicapinkman-hd4bwNope it's the third one the second movie still does have some issues but isn't really gone worse
i clicked play while i KNEW you would make me cry
TRILOGY and don't you ever forget it.
I think the reason why grimmel is more intimidating than drago is because a) grimmels accomplishments are more impressive, nearly wiping out an entire species of dragon especially night furies as powerful as they are is more impressive than abusing a bewilderbeast from birth to control through fear to control other dragons through the bewilderbeast and b) drago is the shouting big buff raw power villain, grimmel is the smart, confident, slender type villain and the smarter the villain the more intimidating they tend to be, especially considering grimmels intentions
When Toothless hesitates to put his muzzle in Hiccup's hand was an animation error, but they kept it in for the emotional weight.
I highly recommend watching this trilogy along with its animated series in chronological order. Great for kids 10+, absolutely awesome
i remember watching the second one in the theatres with my family (we’re all big fans of the franchise) my dad actually teared up a bit when stoic dyed. i’ve always felt that he probably relates to hiccup and his relationship with his father so it probably hit harder than expected.
i remember when i finally caught up to the third movie, i had almost cried when hiccup had to let go of toothless because throughout the movies, it was a huge part of my childhood and it was like letting go of your childhood. everyone started out young and bonding's were growing stronger as the years go by. so i understand how hard it was for hiccup to finally let go of a close friend like toothless because they've done so much together and basically changed each other's lives. it's beautiful but so painful.
The full trilogy was so great!
"Hiccup was able to bring Toothless back to reality, ope, there goes gravity" killed me
I'm so in love with how to train your dragon for yeaaars. I'm so happy that Bionicpig made a video about it, SO HAPPPY
Your videos are therapy for me at this point
I like the scene where Hiccup ACTUALLY flies Toothless because it's literally just "save yourself, but remember that I'm on your back, helping you do that" and it's weird but for me I kinda started to see that it changed from Toothless basically taking orders, to actually letting Hiccup have an input because they'll just crash into the rocks and die if they don't work together
What’s great to me is when you include in a watch through the tv shows and mini movies, it’s not only a good story and journey for the characters, it’s a world I became obsessed with as they came out, I watched the shows, studied the dragons, I wanted to immerse myself in the series, I even played School Of Dragons the kid focused MMO.
You should watch the shows of How To Train Your Dragon. They take place between the first movie and the second movie
You even describing the films made me teary eyed, I love this trilogy **chef's kiss**
this is why i subscribed, i need to know about high quality movies I can watch during my break time
the music is also timeless in the movids
I was SO EXCITED to watch this
1. It by bionic pig
2. It about httyd
3. It 44 min long
Best combo ever
Grimmel is the Closest Villain in the Trilogy who came close to killing Hiccup, Dude took "You are going to hell with me" to a whole new level
The second one was my favorite, even though it has timing issues. The story progression in it it phenomenal, it just has awkward pauses in it that I feel were only put in there because the voice acting didn't line up with the music, but they were so pressed for time that they couldn't fix it.
Also they don't have the whole limited shots and noise confusion in the second and third movies. The show actually does that part far better.
To touch on what you said on a lot of filler-they actually cut the flying sequence with toothless and the lightfury-which sucks because it showed more of her personality and cute moments of them playing in the sky
Not to pull an "achtualleey 🤓" moment but toothless' love interest from the third film is actually an entirely different species. You can see others in the scene where they go to the hidden world. That's also why their offsprings are hybrids
Also the alpha dragon lore is explored and explained in other media iirc. There's several shows, several comics, junior novels, there's games but they're half canon most of the time. So much lore I love dearly
The scene where stoic died scarred me. My dad is a bigger dude with a big red beard so all I could see was him. I literally cried in the theater and I still get watery.
Only thing I'll say is that Light Fury is actually a subspecies :)
you should watch the tv show its really good and it gives some real good context while expanding on things we already know. i really recommend it
Kung fu panda is pretty close ngl. A true banger of a series and I hope he talks about it. Just with the underlying tones throughout the series are just crazy.
I don't understand honestly why so many people don't really like these movies for the longest time these were my favorite movies like the first movie I watched every single night for a whole summer (my family didn't appreciate that as much as I did) not only is a good movie but it's a good movie that has really good disability rep like how they did hiccup losing a leg it wasn't like a huge over dramatic scene it was just a moment of realization just really well done and the latest movie him modifying his leg while just using to get something off the top shelf or joking about it just so well done
In the scene in number 3 where toothless and the other night fury are up on the big pillar of crystals, if you look in the background you can see the dragos alpha from number 2
PERFECT TIMING I can't belive you made this video rn as I'm going through all of dreamworks movies lol
It just makes me so happy when someone else talk about your favourite movie with the same excitement and love you have for the movie. When people actually appreciate the details. ❤
Stoic is the GOAT, his character arc makes me cry every time I watch these movies.
Gerald Butler is Daddy.
Discovering this video is bitter sweet. On one hand I'm bummed because this was going to be my next big video essay. On the other hand, I am glad you did it first, because its much better than what I would have put out. Needless to say, I love these movies. I totally consider them one of the greatest trilogies of all time. Well done sir.
There also 3 series between the first and second movie.
There called defender's of berk and riders of berk im not sure what comes first. but then after those two come race to the edge probably the best of all.
They didn't just survive the Red Death because of how Toothless showed Hiccup that dragons aren't fireproof on the inside; it was a combination of other observations and things he was told. Like, Gobber says to destroy a dragon's wings, so Hiccup has Toothless shoot the Red Death's wings. Hiccup also learned from loosing the cheat sheet that dragons have a tough time "braking" when falling from a great height, so what does he do? Takes the Red Death up into the stratosphere. All these factors combine to act as failsafes for each other. If they couldn't get it to fly high enough, they made sure the wings were inoperable. If they had the height but the wings were fine, they caused the distraction of igniting the fire inside it, where it's not fire proof. It's actually brilliant that Hiccup wins that fight using a combination of what Gobber said (destroy the wings), what Toothless taught him (not fireproof on the inside) and his own observation (dragons can't brake well at certain speeds/heights). He's taking inspiration from both sides of the coin, the viking and the dragon... and throwing in a little Hiccup flair to take the win.
I didn’t love the third film but I rewatched it the other day and it was better than I remembered - it was my other halves favourite of the three.
I love all of these films massively. They’re comforting. Relatable characters, great score, great voice acting (I personally love Jay Baruchel’s acting in general), great animation. Loved this video.
This trilogy is so beloved to me
The third mobie had the same problem as Thor ragnarok: the villain didn’t feel important enough to the plot
Yoooo. I was LITERALLY watching the first one with my son, look at my notifs on my phone and you drop this right as it's ending. My mind is blown lol
Honestly, the second and third movies were good, but the original How to Train Your Dragon is a true masterpiece. Unlike the second and third movies in the series (and the majority of films in the genre), the original How to Train Your Dragon is so good that it doesn’t need a villain to create artificial conflict. The film is a coming of age story of a boy who gains acceptance by his father and community by being boldly and unapologetically himself, saving both his people and the dragons by daring to see the kindness in a seemingly violent creature. The conflict is internal, within Hiccup himself and his relationship with his father and community, and that’s what makes it so powerful and empathetic. Add to this the unconventional bond that Hiccup and Toothless form throughout the movie, and stunning flight scenes with beautiful visuals and a soundtrack that makes you feel like you truly are soaring through the skies on the back of a dragon, and you have a perfect movie.
I've been waiting for this one. HTTYD is my favorite series of movies and I remember everytime my mom brought me to place to rent movies, everytime I got the first movie. And Still do this day after watching all the movies countless amount of times, it still doesn't feel like it's lost its vibrance and it's charm. Love these movies and relate to them so much
When I’m tired of listening to Miss Rachel and I need something to put on for my son to watch, it’s either The Last Airbender/Korra, or the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy. Have them all on crispy BluRay and he and I both love them all, great choice 🤌🏻
Bro I love you. Your genuine, not over excited or algorithmic. You just make stuff you find interesting and like. I just want to make sure you know ALOT of people enjoy these type of vids to sit back a escape with for a sec. Much love
I really appreciate your takes on things in general. This is a really good trilogy to review but I'm genuinely glad to see your take on it. Much love man have a great day 💯
Btw there’s a couple of tv series that happened in between the movies and it’s just mind blowing how good they are I mean wow just wow. Ik u mite not have the time but I still think it would be cool if u Sall those(I’m half way thru the vid rn so if you mention them later on I did not know)
One of my favorite UA-camrs gushing about my favorite franchise ever?? Sign me the fuck up!
dude not gonna lie i just watched your lorax vid and i completely agree and after that as i scroll down i read how to traind your dragon and i froze like oh dear did my mans just make a negative review on my 2nd favourite trilogy of all time glad i scrolled a little further in all seriousness dude you deserve more subs like eazily 6mil cuz damn ur content is just that good
It’s really hard to believe a trilogy like this has been able to remain consistent in quality. I’m glad that it exists