Couldn't ask for more, I will give the christmas tree formation a try along with another as sub-tactic. This video is perfect for me since I love playing possession (because it's so annoying). Thanks man for putting so much effort on this one, it should've taken you so many hours of trying to put this guide together. Cheers!!!!
@@KNICKSBUZZ Man mark the wingers. Try finding LMFs and RMFs with tight marking if they're using 523 and man mark their fullbacks. May want to ideally be QC in this instant for a higher press but possession has a decent high press too
Love it! My sub tactic is christmas tree when i want to cantrol game after i score goal i do it! And love it u play with 2 build up in CB's, my friends were trying to convince me that is not good for defence. Now that i saw u playing to i never giving up on 2 cb's build up in possesion game. TY for video and keep up with good work 💪
@@aleksandarobradovic6943 Thank you my bro!! Yes two build ups is the way to go! Anything else in a 2 CB partnership is easy to get past as a top tier player!
You know honestly i might consider this video permanently part of my way of playing efootball because i get bored using the same formation sometimes, so thanks for changing my way of playing the game.
I don't see even a single non epic player even in league events where i live 😅 it's sweat and blod This would help me a lot, i never tried xmas tree before
@@dm3je Brooo, I feel so honoured that you're still subscribed. I went many months with low content creation (PC issues still rife which I hope to have resolved with new pc in new year). Thank youuuu bro
Great video spoony I can you put a lot of work into this this going to change the way I play this game as I can’t get any higher than div 3 thank you so much. 👍👏
I always go with the same main and sub formation. lately its not going good but after few matches after this video its going more better using counter formations. thanks a lot brother and i hope you made a part 2 of it for other formations if you can . thanks again im always learning a lot from you 🥰
The biggest issue still is that we are heavily relying on first time passing, with opponent Viera, Edgar running at you like dogs and a little bit of delay its still is pretty difficult to pull this off.
@@cykal9578 I hear you bro, but this definitely helps. So many times I face 3200+ squads. It is getting a bit silly tbh but yeah, epics will generally always beat GP/POTW builds. It is P2W for sure
Incredible, what a video thanks so much. The 23 man squad guide was the icing on the cake - your explanation regarding destroyer DMF makes sense. Curious as to your thoughts on Anchor man? Too static for what you’re aiming for? Gilberto and the recent coin pass Tchouameni are my best DMF’s defensively and i usually either start one sitting deep in front of my defence or I bring one on for extra stability towards the end.
@@SpoonyPizzas Thanks mate for replying - on second watch (while making notes like a uni student studying for an exam!) I realised you did mention that. For some reason first time round I only heard the discussion of destroyer.
I play a 343 with double SS formation generally and have tight marking on 2CFs or 2Wingers depending upon the opponent. Up top i play two Deep lying forwards behind a goal poacher. easy and quick transitions.
@@flyingraijinnxb great formation, used it in my "Xabi ball" video, but all players were hole players except for the CF. Created nice vacuum of space for my midfielders to enter. It's fun
Good vid, Spoony. Something I'd definitely use OL. Especially against those pesky 4213 narrow that plagues OL play like Covid in 2020 (too soon?). Anyway, what's your counter for 442 diamond? I didn't see one. I was thinking 3241 w/ defensive instructions on both DMs. Putting def instructions on DMs definitely changed a lot. Thanks, Spoony!
@@drprabaj Thanks dude! Sounds like a good idea with the 3241! They'll be right down the middle... they might have out wide which may favour a Xmas tree formation...keep that in your back pocket and see what they're doing on the pitch
@@mypsphasaweirdrelationship1881 yes, check out "my build" for fullbacks or defence (I forget)...should be there... but yeah heavy into defence. He's fine as Lb/rb but idk about middle of defence. Not the most sure of defenders. Sometimes stats don't determine how well a player actually plays.
One more thing bro. I'm struggling with outwide playstyle and I'm really interested in knowing and mastering it. Any help would be appreciated. Tactics,player playstyles and everything please. I have subscribed already
@@Whisperthefunnybro cheers dude, out wide is difficult to master. QC, LBC, Possession are generally the way to go but QC/LBC more suited sadly to this games ping pong approach. I will come up with something though, so stay tuned
@@ronsanity I'd use him as an attacking force. Good for lesser opponents but with all the terrible way people play this game.... The attacking fullback can be exposed and countered when going forward
@@Sigun25550 I wouldn't. Build up is the best style for 2 CBs and a third could be a destroyer. Still....I've not tested it against extra frontman to see which is better.
I've just played about 12 hours of this while I wait for PES 2018 to arrive in the post. At first it was decent but I just can't play it anymore. The passing is awful. The AI seem like prime Milan on anything Professional or above, and the responsiveness and touch of players is horrendous. Am I doing something wrong?
@@ExpectedBoy hmmm, try levelling your players like I suggested in my levelling video (recent). Low input lag monitor might help too! Check make model lag input into google
@SpoonyPizzas I've already levelled most of my players. I've nearly used up all the levelling things you get. I'm Man Utd, bought all their players plus Osihmen who I levelled to 92 with 90 jumping and 88 heading and he can't bloody score from headers and hardly beats anyone in the air. Input lag? Yeah I'm aware. I have an old Panasonic TV but would it really make that much difference? I feel it's the game engine/mechanic. Why are my players doing some kind of trap/stutter whenever they receive the ball? Passes are woefully inaccurate, meaning simple ones to feet can be wayward even with your best midfielder and the prospect of quick breaks is pointless. I've just watched partway through your Man Utd MyLeague and you also seem to have similar issues, albeit playing better than I. Haha Cheers for your reply as always, Spoony.
@@FiifiBarnes yesss ofc it does, I been working on this for months. Tested against different teams players online, legend offline. I refer to this all the time.
@@giuseppecattaneo2491 Division 1 - as for rank .. I really don't have the time anymore to create content and do that with a son to look after. He's priority since he was born
This Christmas tree formation is just beautiful to watch. How you played with it and controlled the game. Is it a custom build or just the normal Christmas tree formation? First time viewer though.
@@Whisperthefunnybro custom build, I just threw players in the middle of the field when I realised I needed to control the middle and block his wingers (my first ever encounter - then built on it with different playstyles until I perfected it). Welcome to the channel and I hope you return, always respond to comments and try my best to bring high quality content. Check out my attacking tutorial and top 3 skills video for some of my better content too.
It's almost Impossible to overcome or to go up against Scripting Algorithm / Dynamics Difficulty when it gets involved during the gameplay, no matter the Tactic you try to apply, unfortunately. 🤷🏻♂️
@@DavidLucian disagree, yes it's in there but usually when goal up, kickoff glitch, the boosters like fortress kicking in etc. The better players (see Van Basten how he reaches that behind my defender) but yeah. It makes it more difficult for sure but tactics play a huge part in getting wins
Guardiola: “This is the video I needed to switch things up”
@@SkillMastersArena 🤣🤣
Bro the image on there really makes it seem like he's observing quite closely and taking tips 😂
@@Antisocial_2701 The guy was running out of ideas, this is pure gold.
Couldn't ask for more, I will give the christmas tree formation a try along with another as sub-tactic. This video is perfect for me since I love playing possession (because it's so annoying). Thanks man for putting so much effort on this one, it should've taken you so many hours of trying to put this guide together. Cheers!!!!
@@SkillMastersArena months haha, testing and trialling...noting everything down in a journal. So yeah it's been work in progress.
@ Respect!
Can you do a video on countering cross spamming for target men, buller headers, Koller types?
@@KNICKSBUZZ Man mark the wingers. Try finding LMFs and RMFs with tight marking if they're using 523 and man mark their fullbacks. May want to ideally be QC in this instant for a higher press but possession has a decent high press too
@@SpoonyPizzas
Danke!
Danke digga!
Amazing video give a lot of solutions 👍
@@ahmadjayy9792 thank you my friend! Let me know how you get on
Love it! My sub tactic is christmas tree when i want to cantrol game after i score goal i do it!
And love it u play with 2 build up in CB's, my friends were trying to convince me that is not good for defence.
Now that i saw u playing to i never giving up on 2 cb's build up in possesion game. TY for video and keep up with good work 💪
@@aleksandarobradovic6943 Thank you my bro!! Yes two build ups is the way to go! Anything else in a 2 CB partnership is easy to get past as a top tier player!
I enjoy possession style too. But online play is lagging and simple football with LBC could be more viable than possession when lagging happens.
You know honestly i might consider this video permanently part of my way of playing efootball because i get bored using the same formation sometimes, so thanks for changing my way of playing the game.
@@bandanaaddict7845 awesome dude, let me know how you get on! Try and improve the solution
I don't see even a single non epic player even in league events where i live 😅 it's sweat and blod
This would help me a lot, i never tried xmas tree before
great video spoons, plenty of interesting ideas to fine tune the setup based on the opponent’s 👏🏻🍀🍻
@@dm3je Brooo, I feel so honoured that you're still subscribed. I went many months with low content creation (PC issues still rife which I hope to have resolved with new pc in new year). Thank youuuu bro
@ it’s great to have you back
Great video spoony I can you put a lot of work into this this going to change the way I play this game as I can’t get any higher than div 3 thank you so much. 👍👏
@@MrGolfnut71 awesome comment and good luck my friend!
I learned so much from this
I suck at tactics, and this opened my eyes to a lot of
I always go with the same main and sub formation. lately its not going good but after few matches after this video its going more better using counter formations. thanks a lot brother and i hope you made a part 2 of it for other formations if you can . thanks again im always learning a lot from you 🥰
@@frajh1 cheers dude, is there any formations I've missed that you come up against??
@@SpoonyPizzas the classic 442 / the 4312 diamond
The biggest issue still is that we are heavily relying on first time passing, with opponent Viera, Edgar running at you like dogs and a little bit of delay its still is pretty difficult to pull this off.
@@cykal9578 I hear you bro, but this definitely helps. So many times I face 3200+ squads. It is getting a bit silly tbh but yeah, epics will generally always beat GP/POTW builds. It is P2W for sure
@@cykal9578 but...getting the tactics right...will definitely close that gap and make things difficult for your opponent.
Tried in first 2 games, instant result!! Great vid, although how do you counter 4132 narrow formation?
@@priyankjoshi24 Good question! I would think the Xmas tree formation with triple DMFs. Maybe 1 anchor and defensive on two orcs
Incredible, what a video thanks so much. The 23 man squad guide was the icing on the cake - your explanation regarding destroyer DMF makes sense. Curious as to your thoughts on Anchor man? Too static for what you’re aiming for? Gilberto and the recent coin pass Tchouameni are my best DMF’s defensively and i usually either start one sitting deep in front of my defence or I bring one on for extra stability towards the end.
@@richard8601anchors just lack offensiveness to join attacks. So I feel like orcs get up and back quicker without going too far.
@@SpoonyPizzas Thanks mate for replying - on second watch (while making notes like a uni student studying for an exam!) I realised you did mention that. For some reason first time round I only heard the discussion of destroyer.
Great video Spoony, like how you build up.
I play a 343 with double SS formation generally and have tight marking on 2CFs or 2Wingers depending upon the opponent.
Up top i play two Deep lying forwards behind a goal poacher. easy and quick transitions.
@@flyingraijinnxb great formation, used it in my "Xabi ball" video, but all players were hole players except for the CF. Created nice vacuum of space for my midfielders to enter. It's fun
This is amazing, Spoony!
Excelent video, thanks alot for this christmas gift
@@ctrshadow no worries my dude and thanks for your comment and appreciation
Amazing quality work, thank you
@@ilovediecphi this will definitely help. Good luck bro and keep practicing
Holy Moly, what a Christmas Present! Thanks for this amazing deep dive lad🍻🎁🎄
@@ze_german_kraut_alfda cheers dude, yeah it's been a while in the making. I got lucky with the 343 popping up.
Good vid, Spoony. Something I'd definitely use OL. Especially against those pesky 4213 narrow that plagues OL play like Covid in 2020 (too soon?).
Anyway, what's your counter for 442 diamond? I didn't see one. I was thinking 3241 w/ defensive instructions on both DMs. Putting def instructions on DMs definitely changed a lot. Thanks, Spoony!
@@drprabaj Thanks dude! Sounds like a good idea with the 3241! They'll be right down the middle... they might have out wide which may favour a Xmas tree formation...keep that in your back pocket and see what they're doing on the pitch
thanks a ot for your kind job !!!!!! what is the best plan for you ?
@@mutantmass5334 the best plan is the counter formation. That's why I assemble my team the way I do!
Your previous video about leveling players was helpful, could you do a part 2 of that? Based on every position players.
@@febinsunilthomas1179 Sounds good! Thank you! Do you want specific builds and what to focus on?
@SpoonyPizzas well since the levelling has changed overall, then why not for every position. That will be helpful for everyone.
Thank you
nice, can you try the new fl25 I heard it's a very good game
Nice to see you posting again Spoony. The original and best content creator, you paved the way for the other guys.
@@tweazeytweazey6462 cheers brooo
Have you shared your build of costacurta? Did you build him to a more cb type of player?
@@mypsphasaweirdrelationship1881 yes, check out "my build" for fullbacks or defence (I forget)...should be there... but yeah heavy into defence. He's fine as Lb/rb but idk about middle of defence. Not the most sure of defenders. Sometimes stats don't determine how well a player actually plays.
One more thing bro. I'm struggling with outwide playstyle and I'm really interested in knowing and mastering it. Any help would be appreciated. Tactics,player playstyles and everything please. I have subscribed already
@@Whisperthefunnybro cheers dude, out wide is difficult to master. QC, LBC, Possession are generally the way to go but QC/LBC more suited sadly to this games ping pong approach. I will come up with something though, so stay tuned
Great video !!!
If I face 4312 diamond, which formation to counter that, pls ?
4222 /LMF RMF
@@phattruong6445 Xmas tree
We need that Arne slot tactics spoony❤!!
@@javgaming9831 sounds good! I've not watched a lot of LFC tbh, but clearly doing something right!
@@SpoonyPizzasok bro I think that tactics would’ve been a game changer.
God bless u bro.u are my hero
@@lordbelldavis5871 God bless you too bro!
Because tomorrow I will have to take the test, I will like your video and will watch it later :))
Have a nice day, bro!
Good luck with the test my dude!
@@SpoonyPizzas Thank you broooo :))
Any idea on how to train the new Trent?
@@ronsanity I'd use him as an attacking force. Good for lesser opponents but with all the terrible way people play this game.... The attacking fullback can be exposed and countered when going forward
is there a link for the squad builder
@@MannyOye-n3n I'm gonna drop it in my discord when I'm back!
What camera do you use?
@ilyasoulabchir-r1g it's difficult to use but live broadcast
Long Ball Counter ♥️
Can I use Anchor man as a CB?
@@Sigun25550 I wouldn't. Build up is the best style for 2 CBs and a third could be a destroyer. Still....I've not tested it against extra frontman to see which is better.
Ty
Finesse dribble, online gameplay tutorial, efootball 25, Where is it?
Thank you so much spoony you’re a real GOAT. Btw can I get ur free Mbappe training guide please? 🙏
@@Harambe-kun-n8y will do! The GP version?
@ no the free France one
Also thanks
He's already done so some t8me ago in fcact. Try searching his channel mate.
@@Harambe-kun-n8y ohhh yeah he's on my channel somewhere
@@Harambe-kun-n8y ua-cam.com/video/qKHPLZU_RJY/v-deo.htmlsi=jwIFR26H1nvH5fPH here
Please counter formation for 4-2-2-2. 2 anfs, 2 dmfs, 2 CFS
@@GodsT_Yt Xmas tree. I want to face this so I can show everyone what to do.
Nice!
can you share your Adrino build for me pls.
@@elnino9536 yesss check "my build' series in the CF category! He's unreal now!!
i just play a diamond 343 with 2 dmfs. with quick counter 👍
I've just played about 12 hours of this while I wait for PES 2018 to arrive in the post. At first it was decent but I just can't play it anymore. The passing is awful. The AI seem like prime Milan on anything Professional or above, and the responsiveness and touch of players is horrendous.
Am I doing something wrong?
@@ExpectedBoy hmmm, try levelling your players like I suggested in my levelling video (recent). Low input lag monitor might help too! Check make model lag input into google
@SpoonyPizzas I've already levelled most of my players. I've nearly used up all the levelling things you get. I'm Man Utd, bought all their players plus Osihmen who I levelled to 92 with 90 jumping and 88 heading and he can't bloody score from headers and hardly beats anyone in the air.
Input lag? Yeah I'm aware. I have an old Panasonic TV but would it really make that much difference? I feel it's the game engine/mechanic. Why are my players doing some kind of trap/stutter whenever they receive the ball? Passes are woefully inaccurate, meaning simple ones to feet can be wayward even with your best midfielder and the prospect of quick breaks is pointless.
I've just watched partway through your Man Utd MyLeague and you also seem to have similar issues, albeit playing better than I. Haha
Cheers for your reply as always, Spoony.
What about 4222 /AMF ?this is used by top ranks player
@@whyareyourunning2768 same as 442 in video. Pretty sure I mention it
@SpoonyPizzas oh thnks
Adriano golazooo!
Spoony is it possible for me to beat English legends with formations 4 2 2 2
@@JohnChristopherStamier Yes! I did a whole video on it. Pretty sure I used 451 (but check video for more detail!
@SpoonyPizzas I did and that formation works well for me with two AMFs and two CFs
Bro it works
@@FiifiBarnes yesss ofc it does, I been working on this for months. Tested against different teams players online, legend offline. I refer to this all the time.
@SpoonyPizzas all your tips super subs and others worked
can i use this on efootball mobile too?
@@AdolfVladimir-m9e it should work, same philosophy. Would be interesting to see how well it performs on mobile.
@@SpoonyPizzas okayy then I'll try and let u know how well it worked. Btw Thanks
@@AdolfVladimir-m9e cheers bro!
how to beat a 4132 formation - 4 at the back , 1 dmf, 1 LMF , 1 AMF or CMF, 1 RMF, 2 CFs
@@airdroidakr2121 Thanks for this!! I'll come up with a solution in video two. These formations are rare so hard to experiment against
@@SpoonyPizzas YES, would be helpful if you could cover the rest of the formations.
Your max rank?
@@giuseppecattaneo2491 Division 1 - as for rank .. I really don't have the time anymore to create content and do that with a son to look after. He's priority since he was born
See the problem with this is that my opponent is watching this video too😭🙏
@@Darknesh05 🤣🤣🤣
Why don't you like Anchor mans as your dms
Don't offer enough offensively
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This Christmas tree formation is just beautiful to watch. How you played with it and controlled the game. Is it a custom build or just the normal Christmas tree formation?
First time viewer though.
@@Whisperthefunnybro custom build, I just threw players in the middle of the field when I realised I needed to control the middle and block his wingers (my first ever encounter - then built on it with different playstyles until I perfected it). Welcome to the channel and I hope you return, always respond to comments and try my best to bring high quality content. Check out my attacking tutorial and top 3 skills video for some of my better content too.
@SpoonyPizzas the first 433 formation. Can you please explain the player playstyles like you did to this one and also can I use it with QC or pg
I mean the 433 with lbc Arteta rather
It's almost Impossible to overcome or to go up against Scripting Algorithm / Dynamics Difficulty when it gets involved during the gameplay, no matter the Tactic you try to apply, unfortunately. 🤷🏻♂️
@@DavidLucian disagree, yes it's in there but usually when goal up, kickoff glitch, the boosters like fortress kicking in etc. The better players (see Van Basten how he reaches that behind my defender) but yeah. It makes it more difficult for sure but tactics play a huge part in getting wins
The biggest quesion is still how can you play with that camera XD
@@noahbernstein5536 haha practice
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Wow, unreal haha
Didnt work at all immediately got destroyed 6-0 🙄
@@6TheButcher what formation/playstyles/team playstyle and what did your opponent use? Team strengths?
@SpoonyPizzas 3-6-1 With Possession Game
Saliba (Build Up)
Stones (Destroyer)
De Ligt (Build Up)
LMF denis irwin
RMF Edged Cross Trent
Nico Barella BTB
Kimmich (Bluelock) Orchestrator
AMF creative olise
AMF Ødegaard .10
And CF Ruud Van Nistelrooij
@@6TheButcher what did your opponent play/use? I assume narrow 433?