Samurai Shodown III Comparison - Saturn vs. PlayStation
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2017
- Here is an updated comparison video of Samurai Shodown III, between the ports released for the Sega Saturn and PlayStation. I included extra features to better show the differences between the two ports, like the load times and the quality of animation. Enjoy!
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I didn't know this for the longest time, but the US version of the Playstation game is actually faster than the Japanese version. I remember reviewers reviewing the game and using the Japanese version which is really slowed down. This wasnt the case when I got my hands on the US version. Thinking it was the same I was surprised that reviewers of the time never mentioned this update. I remember playing the JP version for the longest time and then the Neo CD one, it was like the game was turbo!
Wow, I was not aware of that. I have to check out the Japanese PS1 port. Do you find the Japanese port easier than the US port? That was a big complaint I have about the US version.
Back in the day when it came out I played the Japanese Playstation version
It's a headache inducing version. Avoid at all cost. Didn't know about the US version being better, thanks.
I'll stick to the Saturn version
Love your videos! Keep up the awesome job bro :)
Thanks so much bro! I will continue to do my best.
Badass video as always dude!!! I'm always up for some Samurai Showdown.
Thanks TurBRO!!!! My go to characters are Shizumaru and Genjuro.
Hey Neo,
That's not a problem at all Neo. Sure, that would be cool bro. Were always glad to see and listen to what you have to say. You know where never disappointing on what you upload onto the channel and seeing you'll be doing this for the Neo-Geo threads 3rd anniversary would be excellent for sure.
Thank you as always Neo. Glad to hear from you.
Anthony...
Nice video NeoTurboManiac! It's always interesting to see what differences systems have for multiplatform games. Samurai Shodown is a great series too. :D That classic Playstation load times... :)
Thanks! It is fun comparing different ports of the same title. Yeah those load times are annoying.
Awesome comparison video man!
Thanks Mark! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video comparison!!! Nice work!! Love this game...It reminds me a lot of The Last Blade. Too bad it was never released in the US...
It would have been nice if they released The Last Blade compilation for the PS2 here. I heard the PS1 port of The Last Blade had its issues.
NeoTurboManiac I have the PS1 Japanese version, and it plays just fine in my opinion.
I've only ever played III since I got it for the Neo Geo, which I like it quite a lot. I've known of the Saturn and PlayStation ports of it for a good while, just never played either of those ports for various reasons. All I can say is I'm not surprised, seems like the typical result many of these have when ported to them, but I think I would go with the Saturn version if not just because I like playing fighting games on it with its controller. I don't know but to me that works, good one man.
Thanks a lot! The Saturn one is a very well done port and the controller is a plus. I also like that multi button commands are mapped to a single button.
This is a dope comparison. Thanks for this
You're welcome bro. The differences are a plenty. The PS1 port is bad in so many ways.
Yeah the ps1 is a 3D workhorse but Saturn is a powerful machine that does an incredible job of running 2d games. I luv the Saturn
Cool comparison video. Definitely the Saturn version is the better game overall, especially on the animation.
Thanks man! You're right. Having that extra RAM comes in handy.
Hey my next Q&A is in June so if you have a question then you got till June to think of one
This game looks just like any other fighters game
Another awesome comparison video. That PS1 port looked bad. Animations were missing, frames per second looked bad and it has some sound issues. PS1 was a 3D power house but could never run 2D games like the Saturn could.
You are right about that. The PS1 port moved too fast and it was way too easy. Having that extra RAM would have come in handy.
@@NeoTurboManiac78 yup, this is a ram issue more than anything.
Wow! I need to find the Saturn version!
If you already have the 1MB RAM cart, you can get this with the case and manual for around $15 or so.
Great comparison! As has been mentioned, somehow, the Japanese PS1 version is a completely different build to the PAL and US version. It even has different looking loading screens and options menu too. Might be worth a look depending on your curiosity levels, eh?
Forgot to mention... The JPN version, IIRC, keeps more animation frames but suffers terribly as a result. Terribly....
I would like to check out the Japanese PS1 version someday to see the differences. I don't own a Japanese or modded PlayStation at the moment. Thanks for watching.
@@NeoTurboManiac78
Yeah, it's definitely not mandatory (lol!) but interesting for comparisons sake. I only had the PAL PS1 version growing up, then got the Saturn import later and eventually the AES version. For whatever reason, I'm one of those individuals who enjoys and appreciates all manner of ports and versions of the same game! I think it's an unrecognised illness!!
I'm the same way. I enjoy buying ports of arcade titles, to see all the differences. I have every home port of Neo Geo games like KoF '95, Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury, World Heroes, & World Heroes 2, to go along with the AES carts :-D.
i own the sega saturn version and absolutely love this game. i used to play the hell out of the ps1 version as a kid (cause i didnt know better).
The Saturn port is excellent and I enjoy it as much its original counterpart. I never owned the PS1 version back in the days, but I did hear about how awful it was, so I bought it to see for myself and there are no redeeming qualities.
is this played on OG hardware ?, if yes what saturn model do you have
Yes this was done using original hardware. I used the white Japanese Saturn.
I think a more fair comparison would be the Saturn vs. PS2 port (via Samurai Shodown Anthology/Rokuban Shoubu). The PS1 cannot compare against the Saturn, let alone with the 1MB extended RAM cart. Later in PS1's life, I understand developers were able to get around the systems sprite limitations (using two dimension polygons) and we got to see some silky smooth animation in those fighting games (e.g. Gundam Battle Assault 2, Shaman King, Samurai Deeper Kyo, etc.). I believe the PS2 may not be a port but rather, emulated? It suffers from bad bilinear filtering (480i) but may be remedied with modern day scalers (i.e. Retro Tink 5x Pro). I've yet to try to real deal (i.e. MVS/AES) but hope to someday see how Saturn fares. I'd like to believe it can hold a candle against the original/arcade.
The point was to show the significant differences between 2D fighters on consoles from the same era. I own the Neo Geo MVS and AES versions of Samurai Shodown III and I can tell you that the Saturn port holds up fairly well. Most of the animations are there. Characters don't animate in the select screen. The sound effects and voices sound faded. Pace of play and difficulty is consistent, though the Saturn has buttons mapped to perform actions like the POW attacks, making it a little less difficult than the arcade.
Huge huge differences !
Saturn's port is great and the playstation one is a shame.
Great video man !
Thanks a lot! Huge difference indeed. The funny thing is that on the back cover of the PS1 port, it says a "near flawless translation" I'm not sure what they were referring to :-P
I think they talk about the title, not the game itself ;-)
That's most likely the case :-D Probably also the in game dialogue.
Hey Neo,
I have a special request and wondering if you would be interested on participating on doing so.
The Official NEO-GEO Thread on Atariage.com will be celebrating its 3rd anniversary on March 24, 2017. I'm asking my Neo-Geo and SNK contributors like yourself if you would like to get involved by doing a birthday special in regards to the Neo-Geo thread to celebrate the moment with anything for the unit and/or from SNK in general
I understand you have a busy schedule with personal life, work, and uploads on your channel. That's why I'm posting this request in a months advance.
Would you like to partake on doing an anniversary special for the thread bro?
Anthony...
is this w or wo the 4 meg ram cart
It normally runs on the 1MB cart. It works with the 4MB cart, but as far as I know, there are no added benefits to using that cart.
Wow. I never owned a Saturn, but other than the colors, the port seems significantly better than the PS1 (maybe the sound is a little better on the PS1 too). No wonder the dreamcast became the home of so many 2d fighters.
Shame they removed Jubei from SS3 - him, Galford and Haohmaru are my fave SS characters :-)
I got this on AES, MVS, NGCD, PS1, Saturn, and Wii Anthology - and imo all versions play ok but the NeoGeo cart hardware versions are where its at - followed by Anthology, Saturn, NeoCD then PS1:-)
*Even the backgrounds featured better scaling and the ground 'depth of field' NG effects on the Saturn that the PS1 ports lacked.
Nice. May favorite Samurai Shodown characters are Shizumaru and Genjuro. The only platform for which I am missing part III is the AES cart. I may get around to picking it up one day. I noticed that in the MVS and AES versions the fighters animate in the character select screen, but the Neo Geo CD, Saturn and PS1 versions don't
Yes - they do animate on the NeoCarts and not on the CD versions - yep that is true :-)
I find it unusual that the Neo Geo CD version lacked that animation.
Yes, like its also similar on Gangan /AoDK - with the character select screen simplified on NeoCD - it was introduced purely to help reduce the already super slow loading times
Art of Fighting 3 for the CD had that as well.
Hey Neo,
Glad to see the updated version of the SSIII comparison video bro. Looks good for sure.
I posted this on the Neo-Geo thread for you as usual bro.
Its on page 28, post #7087 for you to view.
atariage.com/forums/topic/223548-the-official-neo-geo-thread/page-284
Thank you anew Neo. Always a pleasure to see your works.
Anthony...
Thanks a lot Anthony, as always. I was much more satisfied with this one.
NeoTurboManiac
You're welcome Neo. Great to see you make a video even greater. Keep it up bro.
Anthony...
Gonna get a Saturn just to play SS3. Man I love this series.
Nice! I've gotten the hang of Samurai Shodown III myself and it's a worthy pickup for the Saturn.
NeoTurboManiac 👌
they released samurai shodown 3 for the ps4 and i thought it was a pretty good port
naquela época não percebia diferença alguma, mesmo pq ninguém ficava vendo o personagem parado para perceber esse lance de quadro de animação, era porrada rolando o tempo todo, só fui perceber isso quando começou esses comparativos pelo youtube, olhando agora pode ser q tenha algumas vantagens para o saturno, mas na época para mim e para a galera jogar essa versão do ps1 era como se tivéssemos jogando o arcade em casa, a única diferença q sentiamos era o loading, sem contar q esse jogo era 5 conto no camelô, saturno tinha q ter o cartucho de expansão, pra mim na época os dois divertiam da mesma forma, ponto para o ps1 por ser mais barato o jogo!!!!
Eu já percebia muito bem, mas é pq eu tinha um Neo Geo, aí era fácil pq a diferença sempre era grande quando eu colocava o mesmo jogo em um Playstation.
@@FelipeCarmineDallaTorre vc é exceção!!!
The Achilles heel of the PS 1. SNK ports. Saturn all the way:)
Word! I heard before about how lousy the PS1 port was, but I wanted to see it myself. Luckily it set me back only $8.
Capcom Vs games were the achilles heel for the PS1, it couldn't do them properly, no tag mode. Some of the SNK stuff wasn't too bad, people were just spoiled back then by the awesome Neo Geo games they could play in arcades. For example, KoF 98 on PS1 is actually pretty good, I own it, it plays quite nicely, but the Saturn wasn't around for KoF 98, though it did eventually land on the DC.
Ughhhhhh, I have the Japanese Ps1 port and it's god awful. The Playstation had a terrible time with SNK ports. I did hear that KoF '96 is decent, though.
Hey Sal,
Its been awhile bro. What's new with you? Are you thinking of doing any new uploads to your channel in the near future? We always love to see your content on the Neo-Geo thread for sure!
Anthony...
Charlie Cat Sup, Anthony.
I've taken a break from making videos on UA-cam. I still have videos to make, but I haven't been in the mood. Just know I haven't abandoned my channel.
Yeah it was the worst $8 I ever spend for an arcade port :-P. I found KoF 95 port to be solid, aside form the load times.
*****
Gotcha bro. Was wondering if everything was okay. But Its great to hear from ya and can't wait to see more content from you.
Anthony...
As you know I look forward to any future videos you put out Sal. Take care bro.
Watchin while on the Treadmill :)
Thanks. Glad once again to be a part of your workout.
NeoTurboManiac You on GNN FB Group right?
Yes I am.
NeoTurboManiac iam mathus there :)
Yes I am aware. I'm Joshua.
Yes the PS1 version was the worst port, but for years it was the only Sam Sho I owned. My friends and I had a ton of fun playing it. These days I still have my copy, a Japanese PS1 copy sent to me by mistake when I bought SS4 off ebay for the same system (ah well, I'll get 4 eventually), the Saturn version (also have 4 for it), and the PS2 SS Anthology.
While the PS1 is an inferior version, and the Japanese version on PS1 supposedly has more slowdown than the US version (haven't tested that yet), it's still fun. My Saturn version is pretty entertaining too, I enjoy it as well, and of course I love the hell out of my PS2 Sam Sho Anthology. One day I also hope to score the Samurai Spirits Fencing Pack for the PS1 with SS1 and SS2 on it. Has some heavy load times as well, but it would look nice as an oddity in the collection, though both games on it are quite fun to play too.
I too am a fan of collecting the different ports of this series. I got the Anthology for both PS2 and PSP. I also got the first one for the Genesis and Super NES. I would like to get Samurai Shodown V for the Xbox.
I have the SNES and Genesis SS game, the Sega CD one to me is not worth it, too much missing content for a CD based game. Have the first game for Gameboy too, and want the third one on Gameboy as well (oddly they skipped #2 on Gameboy for some reason). I only have the PS2 SSA, maybe one day will get the Wii one, but for now, this one will do, it has all that I want, except SSV Special, and SNK isn't porting that one due to keeping it as a love letter as the last MVS release from them.
Bloodreign1 i have the entire series on my Neo Geo CD and yet I still bought the anthology for PS2.
SSV Special is coming for PS4, and vita.
Saturn wins!
In a landslide :-D
La gallina 🐔 hace po vs saga
Sega muito superior!!!
Saturn se lleva las palmas. . . El de ps1 es un asco.