Rosalinde Haas was always known for "rushing like a Tornado" through pieces.The first example is so much more musical and clearer! Incredible! This is like a revelation to me!
„Catastrophic” truly is the right word for the performance by RH. Listening to her playing either makes you sea-sick, or makes you laugh uncontrollably. This is not meant as an attack on RH. However, it is simply incomprehensible that, as a seasoned performer and teacher who must have been possessed of some degree of musicality, she either was not able or not willing to hear the cacophonic mess that wallowed up from under her fingers. RH was 13 at the end of WWII. As much as I dislike cheap psychology, in her case there must have been some personal trauma to intentionally play at such a perverted speed.
Something very interesting I found: have you heard Sviatoslav Richter's recording of Schubert's 18th piano sonata, the same one on the fritz pianoforte recording? He takes a very slow, metrical-sounding tempo (which also works excellently) reminiscent of Gould's slow Beethovens.
Andy, you must search and search, this is really interesting... what a moment now in bar 10....and with Richter, suddenly the comments are... positive ! Great, thanks for sharing, make a list of this, we'll talk about indexing further, it is too interesting not too !
Actually I uploaded one of Richter's D894 Sonata on my channel(ua-cam.com/video/pJAMZEt8FmY/v-deo.htmlm40s), although apparently not a Fritz one. This live video of legendary Schubert concert was shared by others on the Internet and I just carried it in whole to YT with the original resolution. I checked the comments beneath an earlier upload on YT of the mere D894 from the same performance. There were complaints such as: it was 50% slower than the real speed; the speed choice for the first movement broke the flow of the music; etc. As I can see from the Richter's performance archive, he started very late in his career to perform this sonata publicly, and this video in 1977 was his first time. I thought that he was then truly touched only with that specific tempo. And after so much experience, he chose this piece and this interpretation largely to express the feeling deep inside himself. But now I find that his practice from heart has a somewhat connection to the metrical tempo theory. Doubt still exists whether Richter ever thought in this way. Maybe great minds thinks alike, who knows if he met with Schubert in the dream.
Hello. I am a current doctoral organ graduate student at the Jacobs School of Music studying the organ works of Reger. Rosalinde Haas's performances of Max Reger's organ music are distinguished by her meticulous adherence to the composer's tempo indications and a deep understanding of his stylistic intentions, setting her apart from many contemporaries who often interpret Reger's complex harmonic progressions with excessive rubato, thereby diluting the music's intended vitality. Through precise measurements of Haas' recordings against Reger's metronome markings, one observes a remarkable fidelity to the prescribed tempi, a feat that demonstrates her technical prowess. I admit, there are at times a wash of wrong notes by Haas, however that is NOT the point of music making at all. There is a distinct energy and power in Reger's music, and at times, speed and a lack of rubato is necessary... unlike many performers today who succumb to a safe and sluggish interpretation under the guise of expressiveness. Not everything needs to be 'expressive,' which is a word that will forever mystify me. What does expressive mean?? Speed can also be expressive. Haas' adherence is not merely a personal preference but is supported by musicological research and the positive reception from critics and scholars, who often cite her performances as exemplars of how Reger's organ music should be executed. There is a reason that organists like Rosalinde Haas, Ken Cowan, Karl Richter, are well-known... because they made music that resonated with an audience, as opposed to scholars who write about the music well, but perform absolutely blandly. Was all of this subjective? Of course it is! Music in general falls into subjectivity no matter the perspective, and I appreciate how every individual organist can interpret the music of one of the greatest composers in human history!
Great videos. really helpful. I am writing a paper for the university about the Reger' Kanons book for piano in all keys. I should explain why he wrote those books. I had been looking for information about it, but i can not find much material about it. Can anyone guide me in this matter? Thnx
Rosalinde Haas was always known for "rushing like a Tornado" through pieces.The first example is so much more musical and clearer!
Incredible!
This is like a revelation to me!
„Catastrophic” truly is the right word for the performance by RH. Listening to her playing either makes you sea-sick, or makes you laugh uncontrollably. This is not meant as an attack on RH. However, it is simply incomprehensible that, as a seasoned performer and teacher who must have been possessed of some degree of musicality, she either was not able or not willing to hear the cacophonic mess that wallowed up from under her fingers. RH was 13 at the end of WWII. As much as I dislike cheap psychology, in her case there must have been some personal trauma to intentionally play at such a perverted speed.
Something very interesting I found: have you heard Sviatoslav Richter's recording of Schubert's 18th piano sonata, the same one on the fritz pianoforte recording? He takes a very slow, metrical-sounding tempo (which also works excellently) reminiscent of Gould's slow Beethovens.
Andy, you must search and search, this is really interesting... what a moment now in bar 10....and with Richter, suddenly the comments are... positive ! Great, thanks for sharing, make a list of this, we'll talk about indexing further, it is too interesting not too !
Actually I uploaded one of Richter's D894 Sonata on my channel(ua-cam.com/video/pJAMZEt8FmY/v-deo.htmlm40s), although apparently not a Fritz one. This live video of legendary Schubert concert was shared by others on the Internet and I just carried it in whole to YT with the original resolution.
I checked the comments beneath an earlier upload on YT of the mere D894 from the same performance. There were complaints such as: it was 50% slower than the real speed; the speed choice for the first movement broke the flow of the music; etc.
As I can see from the Richter's performance archive, he started very late in his career to perform this sonata publicly, and this video in 1977 was his first time. I thought that he was then truly touched only with that specific tempo. And after so much experience, he chose this piece and this interpretation largely to express the feeling deep inside himself. But now I find that his practice from heart has a somewhat connection to the metrical tempo theory. Doubt still exists whether Richter ever thought in this way. Maybe great minds thinks alike, who knows if he met with Schubert in the dream.
Hello. I am a current doctoral organ graduate student at the Jacobs School of Music studying the organ works of Reger.
Rosalinde Haas's performances of Max Reger's organ music are distinguished by her meticulous adherence to the composer's tempo indications and a deep understanding of his stylistic intentions, setting her apart from many contemporaries who often interpret Reger's complex harmonic progressions with excessive rubato, thereby diluting the music's intended vitality. Through precise measurements of Haas' recordings against Reger's metronome markings, one observes a remarkable fidelity to the prescribed tempi, a feat that demonstrates her technical prowess. I admit, there are at times a wash of wrong notes by Haas, however that is NOT the point of music making at all. There is a distinct energy and power in Reger's music, and at times, speed and a lack of rubato is necessary... unlike many performers today who succumb to a safe and sluggish interpretation under the guise of expressiveness. Not everything needs to be 'expressive,' which is a word that will forever mystify me. What does expressive mean?? Speed can also be expressive. Haas' adherence is not merely a personal preference but is supported by musicological research and the positive reception from critics and scholars, who often cite her performances as exemplars of how Reger's organ music should be executed. There is a reason that organists like Rosalinde Haas, Ken Cowan, Karl Richter, are well-known... because they made music that resonated with an audience, as opposed to scholars who write about the music well, but perform absolutely blandly.
Was all of this subjective? Of course it is! Music in general falls into subjectivity no matter the perspective, and I appreciate how every individual organist can interpret the music of one of the greatest composers in human history!
I think you’ve missed the point…
This is very interesting! I am looking for the book to buy it, but I don't find it anywhere,
interesting and enjoyable video!
Great videos. really helpful. I am writing a paper for the university about the Reger' Kanons book for piano in all keys. I should explain why he wrote those books. I had been looking for information about it, but i can not find much material about it. Can anyone guide me in this matter? Thnx