Chris Hansen Dismantles Claims Of Entrapment on 'To Catch A Predator'
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Chris Hansen is an American television journalist known for his work on Dateline NBC, particularly the well-known program To Catch A Predator. Just this year, Hansen has continued his fight against predators with his new UA-cam channel titled Have A Seat with Chris Hansen where he’s been digging deep into the recent conversely surrounding UA-cam-er Onision.
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Entrapment : the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution
Legally that can only happen in the position of law enforcement, the decoys of PJ were never officers. So legally, it doesn't count as the definition of entrapment.
@Stephen Hawking Well the guys are ADULTS. They should have stopped the advances and reported em. The kids are kids man, regardless of what they say they should've stayed away.
@Stephen Hawking Okay but we both can agree that they caught some repeat offenders who thought they could get away with it. Who did this to real underaged children and are dangers to society, I can gladly list off the guys so you can get an idea of where I'm coming from. Lorne which is the BIGGEST idiot of them all chatted with underaged girls around Kasie's age or whatever the decoys name was. He contacted 2 other decoys and wanted to kidnap her from her family to live in maine. Thomas wiles aka hambubger molested his kids, John Kennelly went for ANOTHER kid after getting caught the first time and didn't get arrested. He got arrested after the second sting and let him free and he EXPOSED himself to 2 underaged girls in a park.
@Stephen Hawking I think that last bit is a tad bit cruel. And they do explain the charges, some predators barely get anything except community service and probation. They explain that most of them will be charged for criminal intent for child molestation which is a felony in most parts. They have mandatory rape classes and some on the RSO for a while or in people like lorne, on the sex offender registry for life. The show enforces some predators to actually realize it and go to consuling for this urge.
@@DJtheMJ law enforcement is involved because they're there when sting is arranged.
People ask what this show accomplishes. Catching guys like John Kennelly, he did it TWICE. After being caught the first day. He had no prior convictions and did it twice.
Siebert too, he was another two-timer. Also, a couple of the guys busted in the Flagler sting had hit on the Ohio sting decoys but weren’t willing to make the drive, yet when a sting was closer, there they were, still online trolling for kids.
Chris Henson BUSTED people who possessed kiddie pornograhy and who admitted to having inappropriate behavior with children.
Two legends
So if given the option, the people who say it’s entrapment would let them go? These people are actively searching for children, if it wasn’t Hansen they ended up seeing, it would’ve been an actual child.
That is not the point. Its the methods they are using to get these people off the streets. Either the law applies to all or it applies to none. The police were entramping these dudes no matter how look at it.
Personally, I wouldn't entrap them in the first place, but yes I would let them go unless they're actually found to have committed (or planned) crimes outside of the one they were tricked into. The legal system, and prisons, need to be for actual criminals.
not the pedo sympathizers in the comments
So many nonces in these comments
@@hahahaha147 All that is necessary to establish guilt in most states is intent. The fact that a decoy is being used is irrelevant. The fact that you're actually standing up for these creeps is nothing short of reprehensible.
In order for the entrapment defense to work, there has to be use of coercive or overbearing tactics to commit a crime. As far as I can tell the To Catch a Predator team did not force people online to give explicit responses to someone online saying they were minors, nor did they force the person to come to a house for sexual acts with a minor. It’s not entrapment.
You mean they weren't tricked?
@@xx_1dreamstanlegend_xx422 no they weren't tricked into saying lewd things and sending lewd pics to who they think is a minor. Not to mention, going to their house intending to do what tgey talked about.
@@siren499 you know it's against the law to have an inappropriate chat with someone who you believe is a minor.
And that's why nothing ever happened to Chris Henson and that's proof enough.
@@winning3329 it's against the law to speak with an actual minor...not an agent posing as a minor..cause no law agency is going to actually have a minor speak with these individuals..so it's a grey area
Entrapment is generally not viable when it comes to crimes like rape. Since this is statutory rape we are talking about, entrapment is not valid here
Entrapment can take various forms. Here it doesn't technically seem like entrapment but there's an issue.If you ever have to explain that your actions don't technically constitute entrapment you're already in a legal grey area.A basic rule when you have to give an explanation as to why you're not technically guilty of something you're still close to that something. To catch a predator was always about the ratings and its quite obvious in retrospect that some of their methods are probably not gonna be viewed positively by historians. Some of their methods will be criticised as evidence of how much the press was willing to bend the rules in the early XXI century.
How about we focus on educating our kids to be cautious of who they talk to vs criminalizing every adult they happen to encounter on whatever platform requires a person to be 18+ to utilize said platform. GFYS!!!
Entrapment or not, TCaP took a lot of people off the street that had fully intended to victimize children.
That is fair enough at least. It made some social impact in deterring predatory behaviors.
Then why so many of them released then.
@@User-sb6er Because a lot of police departments are lazy and simply don't want to pursue further action.
@@User-sb6er because abusers will always stick up for other abusers.
Also the one's caught with kiddie movies didn't make it out.
@Buck Billner I'm not gonna continue to entertain pedo apologists. How many of those 50,000 do you think actually had the cahones to show up? Probably not many. Even if they didn't get many convictions, they still serviced society no matter how small you feel the impact was. A good deed, no matter how insignificant, is till a good deed.
Yes, It is entrapment. But US laws give It a pass. It's ilegal anywhere.
It's only entrapment if law enforcement sets up the sting. Dateline and Perverted Justice are private ventures.
@@zekayman But that is vigilantism, which itself is illegal.
@@GodzillaGachaGPT What they're doing is not illegal. Private citizens are allowed to collect evidence. That doesn't all under vigilantism. You predator apologists are f*cking gross creeps.
3:48 love it when Chris starts talking about omegle lol
Entrapment isn't the issue, it's the gray area of the law, that classifies them showing up as "probable" intent. Even though the sexual act never happens.
That's why laws were put on the books to make the act of that gray area illegal, the argument being if this wasn't a sting, and that was in fact a 14 year old girl who invited this guy over a sexual act would actually happen. My two issues with this were
1) How honest are they are that the men are the ones who initiated it? I know Hansen says "there's a protocol" but unless both sides are keeping logs of the situation it is really easy for logs to be modified or deleted to make it look like the criminals were the ones who initiated it, plus the fact these are private individuals doing it not law enforcement means the level of scrutiny in what they do is lower, and most importantly
2) this was all done for entertainment, for ratings, to make NBC money, that puts a little more question into how legit the sting was because gotta pay the bills! But more importantly how many stings couldn't work, because people backed out thinking it was a Chris Hansen special? If the argument is to get mentally ill people willing to go after kids off the street then doing anything to potentially prevent it is going the opposite way of the mission and the fact the guys who notice a camera crew and start running shows they knew about it.
I don’t even care about the legal aspect I just love watching these creeps squirm
Don’t care what anyone says this was a great job, them men all deserve this.
There was always something about this show that ticked me off..of course I don’t agree with predatory measures of any kind.. but they went out looking for this
You don't agree with predatory measures, you just get hate measures that stop predators from harming kids
@@ananousous first of all why are these kids online talking to grown ass folks in a sexual manner.. this show went out there way looking for ppl and baiting them
@@raqui174 Read the chatlogs, especially Lorne's. When these predators talk to these children, it's not the child who instigates these sexual conversations, it's these sickos
They really didn't. They sat with profiles online when these creeps ask for their ASLs and within a few minutes these adults ask the child sexual questions. What's more, the adults go on to suggest sexual things they can do to the child when they come over
Regardless, these are grown men talking to who they believe to be a child. The public needs to know what they're willing to do to children, and they deserve to be RSOs. You trying to downplay these predators criminal behavior is downright appaling.
@Gengar Phantom If you found a child in an adult chatroom, would you do what these child predators did?
@@raqui174 You're fucking disgusting for defending those creeps. Intent is all that's required in most states for prosecution. Kids DO get victimized as a result of online chat rooms. This isn't a concept that TCaP invented.
Wait Chris Hanson was let out of Prison?
Yeah now you will have to stop hitting up under age children now.
@@winning3329 I don’t get the joke?
Must of saved so many young children.By scaring off peados who think they may be getting set up
One of these days someone is going to do one of these and not walk away with their life, they'll eventually get someone crazy that has a concealed firearm and everyone in that house will probably die. This kind of stuff is like playing with fire, eventually someone will get burned.
Imagine if Chris Hansen caught Jeffery Epstein?
Yeah don’t think a billionaire was Crusin chat rooms. He didn’t need to
That would have been awesome
epstein rabbit hole so big wouldn't be surprised if hansen is involved somehow
We need a new show called " To Catch A Robber" complete with decoys and fake businesses to rob.
Funny nowhere in his bio does it say he went to law school.
The fact that there isn’t a minor involved makes it a sham. Who is perverted justice. What makes them an authoritative figure. What rules do they go by. Meanwhile dateline is making millions of dollars off of ruining these guys lives when there’s no actual victim. You see where I’m going with this? With that said I think these johns are sick AF.
Entrapment, not entrapment. Just because it's the law (which they didn't break because again, they weren't police) doesn't make it moral. TCAP, HvsP and Have a Seat with Chris Hansen have done good. Sometimes they fuck up, but it was absolutely good people who were/are working on these shows.
They don't have to be cops to commit entrapment.
Thanks Chris for opening our eyes to the danger are children are in with these predictors out there it's a serious problem bring it back. School teachers rabis and doctors. Ridiculous.
Bring this show back! It's worse now!
For real
Interviewer admits to having 11-year-old daughter on all these platforms 😏😏🙄🙄
Seriously needs his dad card removed.
Fundamental flaw to convict someone on a fake system.
I am so sick when people say this show was intrapment f intrapment put these sickos in jail anyway you can , this was the best show ever they put so many scumbags in jail , this show should be on the air forever it does such good in the world. Who ever thinks its intrapment is sick. Great job to Hansen and everyone else for taking these people off the street
Educate yourself on what it means if you convince someone into doing something that they wouldn't have done otherwise that is horrible.
"Entrapment" 🤣🤣
Entrapment is very serious and it does nothing in getting pervs off the streets. If anything, it encourages them to continue, because they realize they will be let off the hook. Most of these cases never saw a courtroom and were dropped. That means the perv walks free and now has more confidence when he goes to do it again.
Entrapment is serious, because it can happen to me or you or anyone. All it takes is for the right temptation to come at the right time and you're ass is going to prison.
only predators complain about his show
This is the mentality of a witch hunt. "If you oppose this outrageous subversion of due legal processes then we're going to turn on you too."
Exactly! 🤢
@Ashton M Surely you can see the issue though? "Anyone who complains about the hunt must also be targeted by the hunt" creates a situation in which criticism is impossible.
3:24 the ol' video game argument LoL. My 4 year old plays gta with me and it's a great father son bonding time. I love it
I think they’re talking more about the games like Fortnite or CoD where you’re playing in teams with mics/headsets on against live opponents. My son plays plenty of Fortnite and he’s had creeps come on a handful of times. Not a lot, and I keep an ear out for it, but it DOES happen.
FATHER AND SON?
There’s one where a guy is contmeplaining coming in the house or not. The decoy is being coached by a police officer on what to say and they are begging him to come inside. If that’s not entrapment Idk what is. Don’t get me wrong they are doing good getting sick disgusting people off the streets but do it legally.
Hes already gonna get arrested either way, you need to quit being an idealist
@@kevinchow6263 Not if there was a opportunity in the first place. Its exactly the same with married couples, they will commit adultery or have sexual contact with other people if given the opportunity especially if they are sexually frustrated or bored with their partner. They don't necessarily actively seek for it.
@@boysteacher3818 how did they not seek for it, they went on the website to talk to young girls
@@kevinchow6263 no they're on dating websites more than likely intended for 18+ and think these 'young girls' are easy to talk to when in reality they're bait.
@@jusmaku But once the decoy says that he/she is underage then the other online person should quit the online conversation immediately but they continue and go with their disgusting, immoral sexual pursuit.
Have they ever caught a woman
Still entrapment 🤓
It most definitely is not
the so called do-gooders would threaten anyone asking for transparency
It seems entrapment is legal in most states. A wrongful practice though. We are all born from sin.
I totally support to catch a predator but let’s not kid ourselves, it’s 100% entrapment lol.
It’s not though. And I’m staggered by people who actually believe that
@@Dutch_man20 I don't believe you used the word 'staggered' correctly.
@@ValCronin uh…ok? I’m sure I used it in a way that makes sense, but you know. Call it whatever you like
@@Dutch_man20 You are right, I was wrong. I forgot that it has two completely different meanings and hadn't heard the one meaning 'astonish' in quite a long time. So pardon me. Goodbye
It is not entrapment, that would imply they were set up to commit a crime they never would have otherwise. They wanted to molest a kid, they pursued it
That's why one guy was found not guilty in court due to entrapment
I'm confused??? In most states you'd go to jail or even get a ticket for a dime bag on the first offense. 2nd and 3rd offense gets a little more challenging depending the state you reside in. On the other hand a person can talk to a 13 or 14 yr old, set up sex and actually show up to complete the act. WTF??? Some of these kats have been caught before for the same nasty shit. I mean these kats actually just get off. Foh
In California you will only go to jail for a dime bag only if you either have a warrant or commit crimes.
Nobody goes to jail for just owning a dime bag, this argument is getting old already.
Also we need tougher laws on people who prey on children.
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I'm pretty shure that the predator who he talks about that was not charged was Thomas Moffit, the library card guy, who knows what happened there... his clip shows clearly intent.
Chris Hansen should take a seat hmself since he is now a criminal too!
No he's not.
He's doing just fine.
Plus he doesn't touch children like you do.
@@winning3329 dude why u keep joking about that stuff? You don't know any of these people
No pity for kiddie fiddlers! Can entrap someone who isn’t looking to molest a kid. Cause the fact is, had that been a real little kid. Then a tragedy would have happened.
Still sounds the same
I love this guy 💓😍 please do more 💖 shows 🤠🤩
Lol he’s old now
But still very handsome.