CAN KEON COLEMAN GET SEPARATION!? (2024 NFL Draft Film Breakdown)

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  • Опубліковано 3 бер 2024
  • Keon Coleman, the talented junior out of Florida State, has been the most polarizing WR in this draft class.
    We cut through the crap and dive into the one thing that matters most... the film.
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  • @themindofsam
    @themindofsam 3 місяці тому +5

    If the team that drafts him, uses his strengths properly, he'll be a beast.

  • @consigsinside2825
    @consigsinside2825 3 місяці тому +3

    Nice breakdown, sticking with the FSU prospects would you do Jordan Travis? I feel like if it weren’t for the injury there would be a lot more buzz around him than there is

    • @bilalmallick8428
      @bilalmallick8428 Місяць тому

      Sorry, Jordan Travis was a terrible thrower of the football. Practice squad QB.

  • @Lavastar1115
    @Lavastar1115 3 місяці тому +1

    The round 2-3 tackles are what we wanna see more of

  • @vaughnnn
    @vaughnnn 3 місяці тому +3

    We need to go get bro he reminds me of bouldin big and physical also a lot of his passes he got was under thrown I think he should be our big guy with bate and Zay with the speed and mark/likely doing their thing

  • @cadjo581
    @cadjo581 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video! Would love to see breakdowns of the later-round tackles like Kiran Amegadjie and Blake Fisher

  • @chrismiller5875
    @chrismiller5875 20 днів тому

    I see him as a major red zone threat, as the field get shorter he will thrive

  • @GucciGil-KC
    @GucciGil-KC 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m gonna subscribe because the work you put in here is awesome. But you have got to start saying the word “route“ correctly. In football, there is a right way. And pronouncing it like the word root wrong lol. I’m kind of just joking, I appreciate the work you put in. You have a new subscriber in me?

  • @armymajic-up1ol
    @armymajic-up1ol 3 місяці тому +3

    Please examine WR Xavier Leggette.

  • @dragonmaster9577
    @dragonmaster9577 3 місяці тому +2

    Adonai Mitchell, Roman Wilson, Xavier Legette, Troy Franklin

    • @Deandre-gq6mg
      @Deandre-gq6mg 2 місяці тому

      Ladd mcconkey, ricky pearsall, brian thomas, these guys are all better than coleman

  • @victorvictori8137
    @victorvictori8137 Місяць тому +1

    Luka Nakua had similar 40 with the best gauntlet last year

  • @mrjonsey
    @mrjonsey 15 днів тому

    Oh Gonzalez locking this up 😭

  • @Ravens752003
    @Ravens752003 3 місяці тому +2

    He does have a great personality

    • @joeschmoe435
      @joeschmoe435 Місяць тому +2

      What are we women now?

    • @Ravens752003
      @Ravens752003 Місяць тому +2

      @@joeschmoe435 lol and now watching Coleman after the draft he turning into a star without even playing yet because of his outgoing personality

    • @joeschmoe435
      @joeschmoe435 Місяць тому

      @@Ravens752003 I care about winning. He could have the dullest personality on the planet and I would be fine as long as he's productive on this offense. Fuck his personality

  • @Deandre-gq6mg
    @Deandre-gq6mg 2 місяці тому +4

    Keon coleman is being drafted to be an x receiver, if he can't seperate on go routes, the he isn't a 1st rd pick. He's a 2nd round big slot

    • @whittle2k
      @whittle2k Місяць тому

      You don't need to separate at his size plus there are other options to win down the field. Your y or z can be that player. Some teams use their TEs.

    • @joeschmoe435
      @joeschmoe435 Місяць тому +1

      @@whittle2k Quarterbacks much prefer throwing to an open receiver vs a 50/50 ball every play

    • @cjnicholl8559
      @cjnicholl8559 Місяць тому

      @@joeschmoe435 love reading these "know it all" comments lol

    • @whittle2k
      @whittle2k Місяць тому

      @@joeschmoe435 but it's not a 50/50 every play. He very good with the ball in his hands

    • @TheOne-pq3gs
      @TheOne-pq3gs Місяць тому

      💯 Truth

  • @1nst_Classic
    @1nst_Classic 3 місяці тому

    I feel like on the 2nd example of him not getting separation, I've seen Lamar make that throw a ton.

  • @iambobbyray
    @iambobbyray 3 місяці тому +2

    Good breakdown, though I believe your breakdown fails to show how his game translates to the next level, with better corners.. personally don’t think he’s a round 1 guy.

    • @RoadGradersFB
      @RoadGradersFB  3 місяці тому +3

      Could very well be a trade-back guy. Or a trade up in R2 guy.
      Not sure he's a locked R1 guy. I just disagree he doesnt separate. It's very contextual.

  • @davidarthur9850
    @davidarthur9850 3 місяці тому

    Good Morning Cole

  • @JacobOlson1234
    @JacobOlson1234 3 місяці тому +1

    Do AD Mitchell

  • @gtaatmiami
    @gtaatmiami 2 місяці тому +6

    Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.63

    • @Masz0211
      @Masz0211 Місяць тому +2

      Larry fitzgerald ran routes

  • @silverknight876
    @silverknight876 Місяць тому +6

    I agree completely, he doesn’t have downfield deep separation speed. Neither does Amon-Ra St Brown, or Garrett Wilson, or Drake London. And at 6’3-6’4 you’re not gonna be a crisp route runner. You have to use your other strengths to make up for it, and I think Keon does that very well

  • @kapilagarwal9244
    @kapilagarwal9244 Місяць тому +1

    Sorry man but these are terrible examples of separation. One on one vs a deep middle safety who's backpedaling with the whole field of space...contested catch on a curl where he has to run past the defender in zone in his blind spot and them time it up with the throw....and then another play where he runs past the zone defender and makes a cut in his blind spot...
    I feel like your just looking at the results on college film and not really thinking about what will work in the nfl. That being said he's a big framed guy and if he works at it he can be a solid slot and sometimes outside guy like tee higgins and be a solid receiver. There's a number of guys this size and as athletic or more athletic every year in the draft, and a few of them will have enough movement skills to make cuts. It comes down to which ones are able to develop the nuances as a pro. Tee Higgins was terrible his first year in the league as a bengal but he was able to develop going into his second year.
    So if you take him in the first or second round it's gonna be because you think he's just processes better and has the mental makeup of a pro wr. I wouldn't expect him to be great his first year. Another thing that maybe works in his favor is because he can't separate on the boundary he's gonna be forced into learning the fundamentals.

  • @swiss954
    @swiss954 3 місяці тому

    He doesn’t separate. Commented before watching video is my analysis. Let’s see what u say

    • @RoadGradersFB
      @RoadGradersFB  3 місяці тому +2

      Spoiler: depends on the route type

  • @cannafarmer
    @cannafarmer Місяць тому

    I think 40 time is way overblown, especially for bigger receivers

  • @rickc9783
    @rickc9783 Місяць тому +2

    Number 1 qualities, volume catcher. Surround him with speed guys and you are all set

    • @hitorinolegend8373
      @hitorinolegend8373 Місяць тому +1

      Thats what we have at the bills, im watching as much content on him as possible to see if he will be good bc after looking at his FSU tape seems like a 50/50 ball guy sneakily good after the catch but seems to have some issues with drops

    • @vladostrov8676
      @vladostrov8676 Місяць тому

      @@hitorinolegend8373
      Colman will be a beast and the end zone target that Josh never had , also Josh’s INT’s will be cut in half

    • @nathans8572
      @nathans8572 Місяць тому

      @@hitorinolegend8373issues with drops? Did you even watch ‘the tape’ Keon had like 1 drop all year and it was a tough catch against UF. I’m an FSU fan and watched him all year and don’t recall him ever dropping a pass before that. Just saying anything lol

  • @drip6337
    @drip6337 3 місяці тому +4

    I just keep seeing Michael Thomas when i watch him

    • @cjnicholl8559
      @cjnicholl8559 Місяць тому

      MT looked more fluid in route running imo

  • @bilalmallick8428
    @bilalmallick8428 Місяць тому

    If he hooks up with Burrow, he will look a lot better

  • @Ravens752003
    @Ravens752003 3 місяці тому +2

    also if we drafting a guy to win in underneath area id rather have Ladd Mcconkey and he already knows Monken offense abd ran a 4.39

  • @najeew2352
    @najeew2352 3 місяці тому

    Xavier Legguete

  • @professorzoom4467
    @professorzoom4467 3 місяці тому

    Not A Great Route Runner Not A Yac Guy Like The Contest Catch But I'll Past 84 Put Of Georgia A Dawg

  • @briankeith9584
    @briankeith9584 3 місяці тому +3

    The film does lie. Had us thinking he was faster than he really is. Nevertheless, he will make an excellent tight end in the NFL.😏

  • @davet3659
    @davet3659 3 місяці тому +1

    Coleman and Flowers would be a good 1-2 punch

  • @OmaAlkebulan-grace
    @OmaAlkebulan-grace 3 місяці тому

    Steelers is getting him! Possibly move up

  • @bankhead832
    @bankhead832 2 місяці тому

    im a xavier legette guy hope bmore take keon coleman and texans take legette

  • @wilfredogonzales7394
    @wilfredogonzales7394 3 місяці тому

    Anyway he falls to us in the second round ?

  • @TheOne-pq3gs
    @TheOne-pq3gs Місяць тому +4

    To say Coleman is getting good separation of any kind that would translate to the NFL is next level cap. 💯

    • @benbaker4198
      @benbaker4198 29 днів тому

      We will wait and see I've watched a dB couch talk about colemen and he's says he's got great routes and the idiots that say it looks like he has two left feet are just that idiots that don't know good fundamentals of routes

  • @georgemedley1310
    @georgemedley1310 Місяць тому +1

    Raven’s stay away from him

  • @joelbailey1214
    @joelbailey1214 18 днів тому

    Maybe actually looking at the highlights before you speak!!!!

  • @seang9450
    @seang9450 3 місяці тому

    Nfl teams are gonna let Andy reid get this guy and they'll be pouting when they lift another Lombardi next year.

    • @cjboyer4355
      @cjboyer4355 3 місяці тому +1

      Dude doesn’t fit our scheme one bit. Andy doesn’t like 50/50 jump ball dudes especially ones that run a 4.67 40 yd dash. Adoni Mitchell, Brian Thomas Jr as X receivers, and Xavier Worthy, and Lad McConkey as Z & Y receivers are the most likely to go to KC.

    • @chefturbo4117
      @chefturbo4117 3 місяці тому +1

      If Chiefs take a wr in the first 2 rounds, they are taking Worthy, AD Mitchell, Mcconkey, Franklin, or Malik Washington. Coleman is the last guy I see Andy Reid wanting.

    • @chefturbo4117
      @chefturbo4117 3 місяці тому

      ​@@cjboyer4355I don't see BTJ or AD Mitchell falling to the Chiefs after their combine performances. I don't think BTJ makes it past the Colts, and I don't think AD makes it past the Texans. We will see though. AD or BTJ to the Chiefs would just be unfair.

    • @cjboyer4355
      @cjboyer4355 3 місяці тому

      @@chefturbo4117 yea idk why I even mentioned BTJ he will be out of reach but I could see a trade up in the early 20’s to get AD Mitchell. If not that you have to get Ladd or Worthy anyone other then that doesn’t fit our scheme or just isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

  • @joelbailey1214
    @joelbailey1214 18 днів тому

    Obviously you as a commenter you really don't don't what your saying!

  • @riccochettv8638
    @riccochettv8638 2 місяці тому +1

    He will go early to mid 2nd… pick 54 is the perfect spot for the Browns to take him off the board

  • @donbur1553
    @donbur1553 2 місяці тому

    DETROIT

  • @MrTadfortitude
    @MrTadfortitude 3 місяці тому +2

    People overlooking Johnny Wilson big time and whoever gets Him, they got a future multi time pro-bowler

    • @chefturbo4117
      @chefturbo4117 3 місяці тому +1

      I don't see it at all. He's huge, I get it. He was trash at the senior bowl though. That is why everyone is sleeping on him.

  • @tallflguy
    @tallflguy 2 місяці тому

    Bucs will draft Coleman at 26, case closed

  • @HeX04yXa
    @HeX04yXa 3 місяці тому

    So you are continuing to ignore his main problem with hands position when catching football. He catches football with his palms. It's just wrong! Needs to use fingers to accurately stop spinning football. And this is the reason why he dropped that first target in your video. Also this leads to body catching and cuts to YAC potential. And he will continue to drop balls in the NFL much more frequently with much more skilled corners defending him.
    Those one handed catches are inconsistent way to catch football. Better ignore them.
    Can't get vertical separation and can't catch football with proper technique that's a hard pass for me. We already have one such kind of flawed pass catcher on the roster in Mark Andrews. And he drops a lot in critical moments. That's enough.

    • @RoadGradersFB
      @RoadGradersFB  3 місяці тому +5

      He had 5 drops on 2 years lol.

    • @HeX04yXa
      @HeX04yXa 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RoadGradersFB Oh yeah? Really? On how many targets? Who charted them? Who decided which target was a drop and which one was catchable/uncatchable? Even you didn't notice that drop at a first glance while I was ROFLing about a full minute before you finally recognized it.
      I don't care your maded up stats LOL. I see the process. It's flawed. Bad results will eventually come with better opposition which is inevitable in the NFL. Better watch Quentin Johnston's lowlights as proper comparison for Coleman rather than highlights of Pickens.

    • @RoadGradersFB
      @RoadGradersFB  3 місяці тому +3

      You're the one making the argument. You're the one that is supposed to substantiate your claim. "Trust me they're gonna come". Yeah okay. @@HeX04yXa

    • @HeX04yXa
      @HeX04yXa 3 місяці тому +2

      @@RoadGradersFB Yes, I'm not scared to be alone with not popular opinion. Not the 1st time for me. Just remember our conversation and if/when Coleman is productive in NFL come and roast me. Or apologize if Coleman appears to be bust.

    • @marcusdarden1535
      @marcusdarden1535 2 місяці тому

      Wait... What? 🤔

  • @Ravens752003
    @Ravens752003 3 місяці тому +1

    so if ya argument is Coleman wins on slants and hitches and some of the underneath well so does Bateman? Yes flowers Quick and shifty but i dont see him as that true vertical threat thats what we need. get Brian Thomas or resign Hollywood

  • @adamwhitney8526
    @adamwhitney8526 3 місяці тому +2

    Coleman is a future bust. He's an awful route runner and yes, his separation is absolute trash.

    • @amariantiquity8543
      @amariantiquity8543 3 місяці тому +2

      Coleman will be the best WR in the draft. He has the best hands, best leaping ability, strength in traffic. And he's shifty as he returned punts. You're just a racist hater lol

    • @adamwhitney8526
      @adamwhitney8526 3 місяці тому +9

      @@amariantiquity8543 racist? You're calling me a racist for saying Coleman is a future bust. That's absolutely absurd. Nothing I stated is racist by any stretch. You know nothing about me, my personal life or my family lineage, which happens to be multi-racial. I'm black, white and American indian. Stop with the bs.

    • @amariantiquity8543
      @amariantiquity8543 3 місяці тому

      @@adamwhitney8526 You wanted a trolling post saying Coleman would be a bust with no evidence, I will make troll post and say you are a racist with no evidence, Isn't trolling is fun. 🤣 Don't be so lazy next time

    • @jeanpaul7223
      @jeanpaul7223 2 місяці тому

      No knows who going to be a gold jacket player a pro bowler or a bust. It depends on what situation a guy is drafted to.