Thank you! Musical analyses are done for each Booster Course, and there's a link to the playlist for my music analysis series, Melodies of Gaming, in the description, too.
There's a bit more to those dash panels in 8 Deluxe's version of Moonview Highway. I believe it's already said, but those dash panels are much larger than Tour and the original Wii version and take up an entire width. Oh, also, no trucks in 8 Deluxe follow any Bob Omb cars and because of that, they are seen on their own and only drive on the right side of the road alongside the Cars. All Trucks and Surfboard Trucks drive exclusively on the left.
Ah, you're right! I seem to have mentioned the size difference in All Changes in Athens Dash, but not this analysis. And I didn't realise trucks stayed on the left side! Nice catch!
*Other gameplay details not mentioned:* -The wallride section visible at 2:02 was removed along with the trickable slope that elevated the grass patch -All item boxes in the first section were removed except for the two standard sets and the extra boxes at the dash panel ramp. Those standard sets also no longer have gaps where the traffic would drive through -The guard rail was also extended to cover both sides of the bridge -All dash panels that spanned the entire width of the road are now removed, but the ones that remain are now the width of one entire lane -Dash panels are now eligible to appear much closer to the finish line than before -Vehicles in the left lane now travel 50% faster than vehicles in the right lane (before it was the same), and the spacing between all vehicles is now less consistent -The exact number of vehicles on the map is now 16 compared to 28, with 3 being surfboard trucks that help the racer more than harm them -Bomb cars are no longer absent from Time Trial mode. Additionally, they now have much larger hitboxes and can roam on their own without being accompanied by a truck -Bomb cars are now exclusive to the right lane, and trucks are exclusive to the left lane Overall, one would be surprised how different this course is compared to its Wii iteration... in ways that mostly undermine the course design established in the original. Awesome analysis though! *EDIT:* Additionally, vehicles in the left lane drive unusually wide when taking the right U-turn before the bridge, and vehicles in the right lane drive just as wide when taking the left turn right before the bridge. No idea why this would be the case.
- Oh shoot; you're totally right regarding the bank at 2:02 and everything in the geometry there. For some reason, this was passed up, probably because of my prior research already done for the Tour video, but that was a Biggest Changes video, so relying too much on that was bound to have something fall through the cracks, even when scanning the course again. - Item boxes many times aren't mentioned unless they're of particular interest--same for coins. - Not sure what you mean by the guardrail. Was this change made in Tour or 8 Deluxe? One extended guardrail is mentioned at 1:57. - I may have tried to include the long Dash Panels as part of an umbrella change than calling to them specifically, but I noticed them during research. Sorry about that. - I think the Dash Panels closer to the finish line are the result of the track compression made in Tour. Am I mistaken here? - Those are some really interesting additional vehicle details. It would've been interesting to have kicked back and just watched all the traffic and asked many questions about how they interact, beyond what was done. You did a great job checking out all of this. - See above. - See above. - See above. Hopefully errors made here won't be repeated in a future analysis. It really goes to show that even 30 videos like this and some sort of significant mistake can be made in judgment. Thank you for taking the time to check all of this.
@@PeachToadstool -Usually, I agree that item box placements are rather unremarkable, though in this case I considered the placements to be relevant to the risk/reward course design present in the original track. -In the original Wii version, you are able to fall off the sides of the bridge because there is no guard rail anywhere along it. That was changed in the Tour and 8 versions. -I have not examined the course geometry of the second half enough to know whether this is intentional or just a side effect of the compression that went untouched (I am personally inclined to believe the former), but yeah, the last dash panel can now appear right by the last set of tollbooths rather than a good distance away from it. But hey, do not worry about anything here that may have been missed. Your analysis videos nonetheless always maintain such a great standard of quality even in areas I know nothing about such as music, I am very appreciative of your effort! Meanwhile, I'm just some guy who really wanted Moonview Highway to return, got infuriated by how bad the gameplay of its remake is, and have been studying the course since to back up my claims.
- Fair enough! I do mention special items or coin setups, and risk vs. reward would be a good reason to mention. - Ah, yes; I see now! It's part of the bridge's redesign, so I used an umbrella coverage there, but where I erred is that it affects the gameplay, so at least that part should have been isolated as a gameplay change. It seems this is one of the sloppier jobs I've made from trying to take certain analysis shortcuts (an older video I created combined with just moving on too quickly). I'd like to say that I'll try to be more careful next time, but it's a lot of trial and error in balancing time spent assessing and create an overall interesting product. I come from the 'accuracy' side of things, so I screw up a lot when it comes to time, and so certain decisions can cause accuracy to plummet, like with Wave 1's general assessment last year. I'll see what I can do going forward. - There are some models you can check out to see what is happening from a different perspective. I use both direct footage that I take and models for a different view, and no one else is involved in these projects other than Tom with the thumbnails and Tris with Tour footage. So it's mostly a one-person project each analysis. Thank you again for your time.
I was so happy this course has been so much more love in recent months. It had not been remade until Mario Kart Tour announced it in the Night Tour, and just only a couple weeks later, it got brought into Wave 5 of Deluxe! And the Switch version may not have the same chaos it did like in the Wii (since there’s not too many crazy drivers lol) but I’m just so happy this amazing highway course has been shown a lot of love.
@ 6:39 Some highways use X and down-arrow signs for lanes that are only open during certain hours, or that change direction at different times of the day (e.g., inbound when people are commuting into a city in the morning and outbound when commuting out in the evening).
What I like about the MK8D version of Moonview Highway is that it's actually fun to play! The reduced traffic and random dash panels definitely help...
Oddly I still prefer the Wii version aesthetically and I don't know why. Maybe it's because it better captures the aesthetic and mood of driving through a city at night that I used to do back in the day. The later versions feel too polished, if that makes sense. Either way this is some wonderful coverage about the differences that helped me better compare.
Quite a few seem to feel that way, and I definitely understand why here. Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad the analysis helped you with your own assessment.
Randomized dash panels! Why?! Oh, but then again, the track does bring back memories. Every time I hear a siren go off, I always think I’m being chased by the police. But like…I’m racing here!
Moonview Highway is still great in 8 Deluxe, but it's a shame we lost charming little details like the sirens in the city and the Blooper caution sign.
Those are the more percussive synth stabs (mentioned in the video) that are similar to what a DJ might have in the arsenal. Such samples can have a mixture of elements, like heavily modified vocals. If these stabs have vocals, they're nowhere near as apparent as the Shy Guys in DK Summit, which do say "1, 2, 3, GO!"
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's Moonview highway is good but in my opinion Mario Kart Wii Moonview Highway is still more beautiful. That video was good Gamexplain. 🌃🛣
I still don’t like they removed the other trucks 🚚 that was in the Wii version and Tour like the Moo Moo milk🥛🐮 and Burning DK 🔥 🥤and Even MK8D Remake has been Nerfed making it less chaotic besides the Car Bomb 💣.
@@ChiefMedicPururu The TL;DR version is that it has less than 50% the amount of traffic if you don't count the surfboard trucks, and the new vehicle behavior ends up ruining both halves, since the first no longer has any vehicle density and the second no longer has vehicles that are fast or dynamic enough to be difficult to dodge
This track definitely stands out visually for sure. And the random boosts does spice things up.
whoa, wasn't expecting a musical breakdown of moonview highway! amazing job describing everything!!
Thank you! Musical analyses are done for each Booster Course, and there's a link to the playlist for my music analysis series, Melodies of Gaming, in the description, too.
There's a bit more to those dash panels in 8 Deluxe's version of Moonview Highway. I believe it's already said, but those dash panels are much larger than Tour and the original Wii version and take up an entire width. Oh, also, no trucks in 8 Deluxe follow any Bob Omb cars and because of that, they are seen on their own and only drive on the right side of the road alongside the Cars. All Trucks and Surfboard Trucks drive exclusively on the left.
Ah, you're right! I seem to have mentioned the size difference in All Changes in Athens Dash, but not this analysis. And I didn't realise trucks stayed on the left side! Nice catch!
*Other gameplay details not mentioned:*
-The wallride section visible at 2:02 was removed along with the trickable slope that elevated the grass patch
-All item boxes in the first section were removed except for the two standard sets and the extra boxes at the dash panel ramp. Those standard sets also no longer have gaps where the traffic would drive through
-The guard rail was also extended to cover both sides of the bridge
-All dash panels that spanned the entire width of the road are now removed, but the ones that remain are now the width of one entire lane
-Dash panels are now eligible to appear much closer to the finish line than before
-Vehicles in the left lane now travel 50% faster than vehicles in the right lane (before it was the same), and the spacing between all vehicles is now less consistent
-The exact number of vehicles on the map is now 16 compared to 28, with 3 being surfboard trucks that help the racer more than harm them
-Bomb cars are no longer absent from Time Trial mode. Additionally, they now have much larger hitboxes and can roam on their own without being accompanied by a truck
-Bomb cars are now exclusive to the right lane, and trucks are exclusive to the left lane
Overall, one would be surprised how different this course is compared to its Wii iteration... in ways that mostly undermine the course design established in the original. Awesome analysis though!
*EDIT:* Additionally, vehicles in the left lane drive unusually wide when taking the right U-turn before the bridge, and vehicles in the right lane drive just as wide when taking the left turn right before the bridge. No idea why this would be the case.
- Oh shoot; you're totally right regarding the bank at 2:02 and everything in the geometry there. For some reason, this was passed up, probably because of my prior research already done for the Tour video, but that was a Biggest Changes video, so relying too much on that was bound to have something fall through the cracks, even when scanning the course again.
- Item boxes many times aren't mentioned unless they're of particular interest--same for coins.
- Not sure what you mean by the guardrail. Was this change made in Tour or 8 Deluxe? One extended guardrail is mentioned at 1:57.
- I may have tried to include the long Dash Panels as part of an umbrella change than calling to them specifically, but I noticed them during research. Sorry about that.
- I think the Dash Panels closer to the finish line are the result of the track compression made in Tour. Am I mistaken here?
- Those are some really interesting additional vehicle details. It would've been interesting to have kicked back and just watched all the traffic and asked many questions about how they interact, beyond what was done. You did a great job checking out all of this.
- See above.
- See above.
- See above.
Hopefully errors made here won't be repeated in a future analysis. It really goes to show that even 30 videos like this and some sort of significant mistake can be made in judgment. Thank you for taking the time to check all of this.
@@PeachToadstool -Usually, I agree that item box placements are rather unremarkable, though in this case I considered the placements to be relevant to the risk/reward course design present in the original track.
-In the original Wii version, you are able to fall off the sides of the bridge because there is no guard rail anywhere along it. That was changed in the Tour and 8 versions.
-I have not examined the course geometry of the second half enough to know whether this is intentional or just a side effect of the compression that went untouched (I am personally inclined to believe the former), but yeah, the last dash panel can now appear right by the last set of tollbooths rather than a good distance away from it.
But hey, do not worry about anything here that may have been missed. Your analysis videos nonetheless always maintain such a great standard of quality even in areas I know nothing about such as music, I am very appreciative of your effort! Meanwhile, I'm just some guy who really wanted Moonview Highway to return, got infuriated by how bad the gameplay of its remake is, and have been studying the course since to back up my claims.
- Fair enough! I do mention special items or coin setups, and risk vs. reward would be a good reason to mention.
- Ah, yes; I see now! It's part of the bridge's redesign, so I used an umbrella coverage there, but where I erred is that it affects the gameplay, so at least that part should have been isolated as a gameplay change. It seems this is one of the sloppier jobs I've made from trying to take certain analysis shortcuts (an older video I created combined with just moving on too quickly). I'd like to say that I'll try to be more careful next time, but it's a lot of trial and error in balancing time spent assessing and create an overall interesting product. I come from the 'accuracy' side of things, so I screw up a lot when it comes to time, and so certain decisions can cause accuracy to plummet, like with Wave 1's general assessment last year. I'll see what I can do going forward.
- There are some models you can check out to see what is happening from a different perspective. I use both direct footage that I take and models for a different view, and no one else is involved in these projects other than Tom with the thumbnails and Tris with Tour footage. So it's mostly a one-person project each analysis.
Thank you again for your time.
I was so happy this course has been so much more love in recent months. It had not been remade until Mario Kart Tour announced it in the Night Tour, and just only a couple weeks later, it got brought into Wave 5 of Deluxe! And the Switch version may not have the same chaos it did like in the Wii (since there’s not too many crazy drivers lol) but I’m just so happy this amazing highway course has been shown a lot of love.
@ 6:39 Some highways use X and down-arrow signs for lanes that are only open during certain hours, or that change direction at different times of the day (e.g., inbound when people are commuting into a city in the morning and outbound when commuting out in the evening).
Oh, that's an interesting bit of trivia! Didn't know this; thanks!
I can easily say the Moonview is my favorite for Wave 5. I can easily see why so many people wanted this course back!
Vocals were also added in the Switch's techno variation. Just before the loop, "Go! Go! Go!" can be heard.
Those are the more percussive synth stabs that are similar to what a DJ might have in the arsenal.
@@PeachToadstool- Oh, really? That's crazy!
I could listen to that city portion of moonview highway for hours.🎶😏
What I like about the MK8D version of Moonview Highway is that it's actually fun to play! The reduced traffic and random dash panels definitely help...
Wii Moonview Highway is my favorite too🌃
Same dude. It is my fav of wave 5 for sure.
@@digitalgamer457 on the Mario Kart Wii the background Siren sounds like from Looney Tunes 🚨
Been waiting for this! 😃
Moonview Highway is my favorite retro track in the BCP, with 3DS Rainbow Road being a close second.
The one thing I've noticed about the ending to the Switch's City version is that it sounds way too similar to something that might be found in Cuphead
I didn’t know the boost panels were randomized.
Moonview highway got the best music in deluxe,Hands down
Oddly I still prefer the Wii version aesthetically and I don't know why. Maybe it's because it better captures the aesthetic and mood of driving through a city at night that I used to do back in the day. The later versions feel too polished, if that makes sense. Either way this is some wonderful coverage about the differences that helped me better compare.
Quite a few seem to feel that way, and I definitely understand why here. Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad the analysis helped you with your own assessment.
7:21 HOO wouldve guessed
You caught it! Nice work.
I see what he did there. I get it because I heard an owl
Am i the only one who wanted and predicted thus course for the Booster Course Pass?
Nope
Wooh, glad this returns!
It's been years since I played Mario Kart Wii and I almost forgot
how pretty Moonview Highway was.
Randomized dash panels! Why?!
Oh, but then again, the track does bring back memories. Every time I hear a siren go off, I always think I’m being chased by the police. But like…I’m racing here!
I like the peach poster in both variations of the track
The beats are slappin’ hardddd
Moonview Highway is still great in 8 Deluxe, but it's a shame we lost charming little details like the sirens in the city and the Blooper caution sign.
11:26 if you listen closely you can hear "Go! Go! Go!" Which is a new effect which was not in wii
Those are the more percussive synth stabs (mentioned in the video) that are similar to what a DJ might have in the arsenal. Such samples can have a mixture of elements, like heavily modified vocals. If these stabs have vocals, they're nowhere near as apparent as the Shy Guys in DK Summit, which do say "1, 2, 3, GO!"
When are you going to do “All Changes in Squeaky Clean Sprint?”
Already done! We're determining a good time when to release it.
I really wish they made those walls into anti-grav
Finally after 3 weeks 👏🏼
Sorry for the wait! We had some delays with the constant news!
@@PeachToadstool no I didn’t mean it bad ! It’s ok😊
Also ever since Tour, the trees have a new style compared to the original. (Aesthetic Change)
Also, the cliffs on the lakeside are rugged.
(Aesthetic Change)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's Moonview highway is good but in my opinion Mario Kart Wii Moonview Highway is still more beautiful. That video was good Gamexplain. 🌃🛣
Thank you!
The music is better on Deluxe's version
7:20 Ba-dum, Crash!
I still don’t like they removed the other trucks 🚚 that was in the Wii version and Tour like the Moo Moo milk🥛🐮 and Burning DK 🔥 🥤and Even MK8D Remake has been Nerfed making it less chaotic besides the Car Bomb 💣.
It's kinda sad how much of a downgrade Moonview got compared to the original version
It would've been great if it was hard
@@ChiefMedicPururuplus no chaotic traffic/ fast traffic on the boost panel section until like MKW
@@ChiefMedicPururu The TL;DR version is that it has less than 50% the amount of traffic if you don't count the surfboard trucks, and the new vehicle behavior ends up ruining both halves, since the first no longer has any vehicle density and the second no longer has vehicles that are fast or dynamic enough to be difficult to dodge
@@ChiefMedicPururuWay more than that, the dash panels are bigger, there's less cars, they're slower, AND they don't change lanes on top of that