This was my thinking also. He's just ASSUMING that she would use it and love it to the point he took 10,000 in debt. The was NEVER a guarantee she would have good things to say.
Robert sent me this way; I don’t tan, I didn’t have a clue about tanninggate… I don’t know either of these 2 people but MATE!!! This video was awesome, and so so entertaining - thank you!!
When are people and going to wake up and realize Makayla is an entertainment business, not a friend. I don’t say that with malice. It is how it is. If she did a post for Bondi Sands, it took more than 4 days for the contract to be worked out and content made so I don’t think they stole her from him.
💯 content creation is a JOB. When brands approach content creators, they typically already have a number in mind that they are prepared to offer AND dates they want the finished product. Even IF Bondi "stole" her, they did so with contracts in hand, which HE didn't have.
Right? I'm 7m late but where does this: "she supports small businesses" come from? Mikayla supports the business that pays her, she never struck me as a samaritan!
I actually think he created the “fight” on purpose - he had no hope of actually getting Makayla but he COULD cause enough drama for her to look bad and since she has such little goodwill already people are ready to jump. I don’t think he wanted her endorsement. I think he wanted people to hate buy, if any of this rambling makes sense. 😂
To sum up his entire beef: I’m a bad a business and made a horrible financial decision and it’s all her fault. I cannot imagine the interest on that loan.
It’s not often that I get to side with Mikayla but this man strikes me as someone who is creating this drama to send people to his product and Mikayla fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. He knew that if she reviewed it, it would make him a bunch of money but he also knew if she didn’t and he did THIS, it would drive people to him anyway since everyone loves to hate Mikayla. This man has the audacity to blame Mikayla for his own financial decisions? As if she made him spend money he didn’t have and it was her duty to sell his product for him? For FREE? Out of the kindness of her heart!? As if he’s the only small business contacting her a million times a day??? And then on top of it to be so sure that she wasn’t wearing his tan when how would he know? How would they know?? He’s THAT confident that his tan won’t cling to dry skin on the hand or appear orange?? Sorry bruh, you made yourself look like a damn fool. I’m thinking his mommy gave him everything he ever wanted growing up.
I was introduced to you by Jen but have seen Peter, Robert, and James all shout you out. It brings me joy to see you getting the recognition you deserve!
LIIIISTEN!!! Robert Welsh linked your video and I'm so glad he did because my sheltered-ashy-TC-slash-past-beauty reviews fan self is enjoying the commentary! The entitlement on this dude is out of this world! I never liked her, but I don't like him more now 😏😂
Totally agree with your opinion, he jumped the gun. What if she said it's crap? Should have sent to 20 smaller creators and seen what buzz that generated. Your business is not solely rely on Mikayla. The entitlement! BTW, I loved Audra at home nd thought you stopped creating, good to find you. Xxx
The brand owner buying so much stock before the demand was even there is absolutely idiotic to me. How does he even know how much he needs of each shade? He doesn't! It's so stupid! He should have just done a preorder. He could have used the loan to pay influencers while the preorder would cover the cost of producing the actual products. Wait.... hold up.... this isn't even a new brand? What is he doing? What is he thinking? I'm so confused. How has he been doing this for years and still not have a marketing budget??? Also, if his business was truly so successful for so many years, why was the loan necessary? The business is successful but not successful enough to grow without a loan?
I came into this wanting to be on his side because I have a weird accountability issue around when someone says they will do something and then don’t, so even though she didn’t owe him anything and it was free work I do not like that. But the entitlement and privilege rolling off of this man is nuts. He made a bad business decision so he had to make it her fault and then capitalize off of it. That is gross behavior.
I bought my niece a candle from that small brand you were talking about and it was the most beautiful strawberry desert looking thing in the world and it smells so good she knew what it was through the wrapping paper.
You just made me laugh so hard I started coughing!😂 just sitting here waiting for the power to stay on and I come upon you and this comment. Thank you!
I'm just wondering if they really even "stole" the idea because like... there's different undertones of tanners already for decades, that's not new. And having questionnaires to help people choose theor colour isn't new either. So like... is it really a stolen idea? Or is Bondi Sands just doing a better job in being represented because they are an existing well known go-to brand. Bondi Sands isn't personally mixing like this guy, like that's HIS sale point, he's "personalising" per client. Very different in my opinion
I wouldn't be surprised if they nabbed the concept from him, but they simplified it and sold it and had the financial backing to mass produce it at a rate he can't match.
He says in a clip later in this video that he stole the idea himself - that it’s what brands did for celebrities he worked with. I guess making it for us pleebs is an idea, but not his own fully original idea.
@@268anita that's what I mean, it's nothing new. I don't even think having that many shades is necessary because depth is created with layers and processing time. Sounds like a big hype up
It's so awesome to hear your perspective on this! I've been seeing a lot of people defending Matthew just because they hate Makayla. I do not like Makayla at all, but she is not at all responsible for this man's choices. You said it so well! 👏
Thank you for this breakdown! Your examples of him behaving like a disappointed date and how the situation should have been treated as if it were a mechanic friend favor helped frame this in such a clear perspective
When you said you were about to be 44 my mouth dropped open! You look incredible ETA: my husband is a letter carrier too. When you said you’re not home enough to go buy things and when you are you’re too tired, I said “oh yeah she definitely works for the post office” 😂
@@AudraReinsOfficial nope, been a regular for 5 years! His office is super strict about everyone wearing the postal issued shoes though. They got rid of CCCAs up here too (NH) they’re all PTFs now but basically glorified CCAs lol. I gather you’re in Texas? Idk if it’s different there
Please do more commentary videos. I think your channel would blow up. You’re so funny and easy to listen to. As an AUDHD human, even this 2 hr live kept me interested.
Robert Welsh’s post sent me here. LOVE your whole attitude and vibe…absolute 🔥 why not ask his followers to tag their most beloved content creators to look for upcoming people to contact 🙄 I tried to be on his side but no!
here 4 months late haha, got recommended by Robert Welsh! I am so glad I watched this I loved your commentary. I do not like Mikayla but I also don’t like people giving this guy all the pity just because they hate her. A person can be wrong in some situations and right in others. Thank you for your nuanced take!
Rich Lux did a video about this guy and apparently he destroyed all his Jeffree Star stuff and now he’s apologizing for it because he did it for her during the mascara thing and now he’s sorry because he’s mad at her.
“..the bottom half of my legs is yellow.“ 😂😂i died. I scared my dog while i was dying. He's ok now. Im still dead. New sub. Here for you for life now. ❤❤❤
It makes me boil that people especially men feel entitled to women’s attention/time/free labor etc. she literally owed him nothing. None of what he did on his own is her problem. Should’ve paid for sponsorship!! Then you could’ve controlled her content like he clearly feels he deserves.
I use Tan-Lux Express that works the same way… I’ve accidentally fallen asleep and the ONLY thing that happens is that it’s too dark… it’s not THAT! Has even ever said how many he’s sold? If he’s sold 20 and got 10 pictures that is not enough to say it’s not going to affect anyone differently! He acts like he had a CONTRACT with her?!!!!! It’s ridiculous.
That's been my MAIN issue. He's after her like there was a legally binding contract. Let me tell you, any time anyone tells me they're going to do something for me in this business, even my friends, I don't worry about it unless it actually happens. 🤷🏾♀️ why get bent out of shape about it. Contracts, on the other hand...different story
Correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like he didn’t even provide her with the product! In the text messages he was recounting it sounded like she said something about ordering her product! Also how did he possibly think this whole thing would make him look good?!
His entitlement is really hard to watch. A self tanner video is a big commitment and time consuming, people want to know how it applied, how was the smell, did it transfer, how long did it last, how did it fade. So multiple recordings over at least week for a true review. It's unfortunate he's gotten so much attention and benefit from dragging her.
Another comment from somebody sent over by The Welsh boys 🤣 Love your video! When you said 'why am I like this?" I FELT that in my soul. I am here to stay, keep being you!
I thought the same thing! I thought he seemed like he was having a tantrum like "mine is NOT orange" but he can't possibly know the exact reaction it's gonna have on every single skin tone with different hormones, oils, temperature, pH etc..
Honestly, the first time I encountered this situation, I didn’t like how she behaved. You really showed me how frustrating he is in the situation. Sigh, I just don’t like any of this. Not a fan of her, definitely not a fan of him. Mainly glad I got a long video from you 😂
Same! I was kind of feeling sorry for him, but other channel recaps didn't include all the vids of him going beserk. I'm surprised Mikayla had such a measured response.
When I first got wind of this, my initial reaction was, what did she do now😮, but then I got the details and was just...wow. there's a lot she does wrong, but this situation, imo, wasn't one of them. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch her content now, but I can admit when she is in the right.
loving the little singing interludes cos that is how my adhd brain works as well 💖you have a gorgey gorgeous voice!! Also, so sorry I found your channel so late, but grateful i'm here! Came from Theresa :)
Oh no im sorry about your autoimmune diagnosis I hope it's nothing serious. Also I hope you're staying warm Audra. Also I just saw we have a conservation alert for tomorrow from 6am to 10am ughhh
Googled and it says "Practically all currently available self-tanning products have as their active ingredient dihydroxyacetone (DHA)" so his stuff at twice the price of other self tanners is NOT unique. Your hair color and eye color are likely NOT even taken into consideration. It is JUST the pale/fair/medium/olive/brown part. If anything, he probably uses the SAME parameters of other tan companies and you get pale/fair/light OR medium OR olive/brown/black. I don't mean to dump on a new and tiny company but this is my read of his somewhat unneeded product. Some content creator can spend the money, buy a bunch and see if there is really a difference if they say they are a blue eyed blonde or a brown eyed redhead.
I laughed out loud at your Mikayla impression 😆 Another great video Audra! I love your take on these kinds of subjects, you are always thoughtful, fair, and hilarious!
1:11:07 Girlfriend actually had a very professional and measured response to the situation. Yeah, it’a shitty that she said she would and didn’t, but yeah, GF wasn’t getting paid. She wasn’t under a contract, she had no professional obligation to do anything.
This is giving “you’re successful, so you owe me”. My parents are immigrants, worked their A$$ off their whole lives and relatives are always demanding a hand out bc they feel entitled to someone else’s hard work.
Mikayla's content was not for me even before I heard of the shady situations but now I feel kinda bad for her. I mean this guy... what to do to laugh, to cry, to go make myself orange 🤯 Saw you video on Robert and James Welsh channels and I need I love it, now I need to acomodate binging the rest of them and looking forward to the next ❤
I think the confusing part for me is that he wants Mikayla to review the product but he doesnt seem to have a tan in any of these posts. Isn’t that the quickest way to sell your product to be in a tank or something complain that she didn’t review it for karma points and then show how well it works on you?
This is basically the Jacklyn Hill/Makeup Geek debacle all over again. Why you ordering product before you have a contract/video????? Why do so many influencers learn nothing from beauty community drama. Very glad to have channels like yours and The Welsh Twins that are drama free
First of all this guy reminds me of Steven Mango, Second of all he sent her PR and she didn’t use it then he guilted her into reviewing it and when she didn’t do it fast enough for free he attacked. I probably would have not been as nice as her. I might have given it a shitty review and said I don’t like it it’s a bad product don’t buy this crap.
I watched his live when this went really viral. He said in the live to go to her page and give her shit. He even said that her and body looks completely different compared to a few years ago. He was just so rude and nasty, clearly looking for clout
2023 was the first time I bought tan, and it was Bondi Sands multicolour system because ONE they are a trusted company that Angelica Nyqvist uses and I trust her and TWO it's a light system, not heavy, and I could specifically choose emerald for my olive skin. Easy access in my local drug store that I can get discounted coz my mum works there and it works and looks good and comes off nicely (I use to be a beauty therapist and fully trained in spray tans). IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT, there should be people comparing these brands now. Anyway, the only reason I bought a tanner is coz for the past 5 years or more I've been a super goth hiding from the sun, pastey as fuck coz working night shifts and getting tattoos, it's been YEARS since I naturally tanned and I missed my deeper olive tone. Then summer hit and I haven't worn sunscreen the whole time to see how dark I can get.... I'm definitely darker than the tanner lmao. Don't attack me!!! I know it's naughty, I did cover my face and tattoos in sunscreen though. I've gone from fair-light olive to medium olive foundation tone lmao.
Hi! I am so glad i found your channel through James Walsh's recommendation. You forgetting to turn your mic back on between clips is SOOOO relatable and endearing! Still watching but just wanted to comment ❤
Just commenting on the “it comes down to that big businesses can pay individuals to promote their stuff” whereas small businesses cannot or at least cannot do so as easily. It is true and I agree with that but in this situation, if I was someone who’s worked with this tik tok guy to promote his stuff. Then one day a huge company comes asking me to promote their stuff which at that point I know it’s a rip off, then it comes down to my integrity. It is my choice if I wanna promote it or not. So yea big companies can do that but if the influencers refused, then the company can’t do anything.
Yes, both things are definitely true. I know it can get tricky if this is a full time job. Like, I can afford to say no bc this isn't my job... I'm just losing out on being able to quit my 9-5. But yeah, I feel you!
I saw your comments on Jen Luv’s video about the horrible blackface foundation offering from yourhforia. So watched this and I love your vibe. I just have two words for Matthew… Boy Bye! 😂😂 New subscriber to your channel though 😊
This whole situation comes back to the same skits we see on social media within the working environment: poor decisions on your end do not constitute an emergency or priority on my end :)
Men really can’t admit to making a mistake 💀 Guy would rather do mental gymnastics to keep the blame on the woman who he clearly has a very strange, parasocial relationship with 🤡 I caaaaaaaan’t
I don't know who Mikayla is, but the audacity of this man! I'm fully invested into this drama, he is so ridiculous, he's giving extreme main character syndrome!
I am sure we all know she did not respond on lashgate because L’Oreal would have brought the wrath of the gods down in her and sued her homeless. I agree with everything regarding this self oranger oh I mean tanner issue. He did this as a publicity stunt.
The entitlement is horrendous, I've never used tann, since I'm fully mexican and 30% native American, so all I need is to go outside lol, but I dont want to wrinkle so I'm a pale as$
@@AudraReinsOfficial yes, Bondi is a beach suburb, very over hyped beach near Syndey. Honestly, most of the top rated beaches in Australia, and the world, are on the West Aussie coast. We don't get as much love on the west because we are the most isolated city in the world with low population, but it adds to the natural untouched beauty.
What if she didn’t like it or it made her break out or something? He went and ordered a bunch of product not knowing if she would even like it or give a good review. He wasn’t very smart.
Robert Welsh recommended this video and I am so glad. I like the way you present information, plus you had me at Tickety Tok.
I’m here from Robert too!
Awesome! Thank you!🖤 I've been told I have a way with words. 😂
@@AudraReinsOfficial you certainly do. All the good vibes!!!
i’m here due to Robert too and i’m going to watch the backlog now
Same I came here from Robert too amazing stream thx 🫰
Your urgency is not her emergency SIR
My coworker says this all the time and I love her so much!
Did it ever occur to him she hated his tanner and was doing him a huge favor by just saying nothing. 😂
This was my thinking also. He's just ASSUMING that she would use it and love it to the point he took 10,000 in debt. The was NEVER a guarantee she would have good things to say.
@@keleighmay94 exactly. The arrogance and ego is epic. I hate that I have to be on her side too. Lol
Robert sent me this way; I don’t tan, I didn’t have a clue about tanninggate… I don’t know either of these 2 people but MATE!!! This video was awesome, and so so entertaining - thank you!!
Welcome aboard! And THANK YOU!🖤🥰🖤
When are people and going to wake up and realize Makayla is an entertainment business, not a friend. I don’t say that with malice. It is how it is. If she did a post for Bondi Sands, it took more than 4 days for the contract to be worked out and content made so I don’t think they stole her from him.
💯 content creation is a JOB. When brands approach content creators, they typically already have a number in mind that they are prepared to offer AND dates they want the finished product. Even IF Bondi "stole" her, they did so with contracts in hand, which HE didn't have.
Right? I'm 7m late but where does this: "she supports small businesses" come from? Mikayla supports the business that pays her, she never struck me as a samaritan!
I actually think he created the “fight” on purpose - he had no hope of actually getting Makayla but he COULD cause enough drama for her to look bad and since she has such little goodwill already people are ready to jump. I don’t think he wanted her endorsement. I think he wanted people to hate buy, if any of this rambling makes sense. 😂
It makes complete sense. I think he was hoping she was going to review, but had hate buying in his back pocket just in case😂
Ooooh I forgot to add that I’m here because of Robert Welsh AND Theresa and I’m so excited! Can’t wait to watch more of you!! ❤️❤️❤️
@@AudraReinsOfficial Win-win? Ugh. What a tool.
To sum up his entire beef: I’m a bad a business and made a horrible financial decision and it’s all her fault.
I cannot imagine the interest on that loan.
he has Main Character Syndrome
It’s not often that I get to side with Mikayla but this man strikes me as someone who is creating this drama to send people to his product and Mikayla fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. He knew that if she reviewed it, it would make him a bunch of money but he also knew if she didn’t and he did THIS, it would drive people to him anyway since everyone loves to hate Mikayla. This man has the audacity to blame Mikayla for his own financial decisions? As if she made him spend money he didn’t have and it was her duty to sell his product for him? For FREE? Out of the kindness of her heart!? As if he’s the only small business contacting her a million times a day??? And then on top of it to be so sure that she wasn’t wearing his tan when how would he know? How would they know?? He’s THAT confident that his tan won’t cling to dry skin on the hand or appear orange?? Sorry bruh, you made yourself look like a damn fool. I’m thinking his mommy gave him everything he ever wanted growing up.
I was introduced to you by Jen but have seen Peter, Robert, and James all shout you out. It brings me joy to see you getting the recognition you deserve!
Thank you so much! 🖤🖤🖤
Omg halfway through I almost had to turn it off bc so cringe what was he thinking texting her all this????😶🌫️
Listen...I would've been SO uncomfortable receiving these messages from a stranger! I've stopped watching a television show for less!
I came here after Robert Welsh recommended you
Me too!
Thank you! He's an absolute doll. I hope you had some fun🖤
It’s bordering on harassment. I bet she regretted reaching out to him 😂
“I had to call my mom” 😂 😂
LIIIISTEN!!! Robert Welsh linked your video and I'm so glad he did because my sheltered-ashy-TC-slash-past-beauty reviews fan self is enjoying the commentary! The entitlement on this dude is out of this world! I never liked her, but I don't like him more now 😏😂
😂 I love everything about this comment! Thank you!🖤
Robert Welsh recommended this video on his community tab & Im so glad I came to watch! New sub
Thanks for coming🖤🖤🖤
Totally agree with your opinion, he jumped the gun. What if she said it's crap? Should have sent to 20 smaller creators and seen what buzz that generated. Your business is not solely rely on Mikayla. The entitlement! BTW, I loved Audra at home nd thought you stopped creating, good to find you. Xxx
🖤 thank you! I just rebranded. I wanted everything to kind of be the same, especially now that I twitch stream.
Came here from Robert Welsh’s insta story and you have not disappointed! Just subscribed to you
🖤🥰🖤 thank you!!!
The brand owner buying so much stock before the demand was even there is absolutely idiotic to me. How does he even know how much he needs of each shade? He doesn't! It's so stupid! He should have just done a preorder. He could have used the loan to pay influencers while the preorder would cover the cost of producing the actual products.
Wait.... hold up.... this isn't even a new brand? What is he doing? What is he thinking? I'm so confused. How has he been doing this for years and still not have a marketing budget??? Also, if his business was truly so successful for so many years, why was the loan necessary? The business is successful but not successful enough to grow without a loan?
ALL👏🏾of👏🏾 this👏🏾
Wow. He’s so whiney….ungrateful to say the least.
I came into this wanting to be on his side because I have a weird accountability issue around when someone says they will do something and then don’t, so even though she didn’t owe him anything and it was free work I do not like that. But the entitlement and privilege rolling off of this man is nuts. He made a bad business decision so he had to make it her fault and then capitalize off of it. That is gross behavior.
Listen...same! I was so bothered by the way he seemed to think she OWED the review to him. If he wanted a guarantee, he should've paid for that🤷🏾♀️
I bought my niece a candle from that small brand you were talking about and it was the most beautiful strawberry desert looking thing in the world and it smells so good she knew what it was through the wrapping paper.
I’ve never used a self tanner because I’ve always thought orange was the only option. I still don’t believe it’s not.
You just made me laugh so hard I started coughing!😂 just sitting here waiting for the power to stay on and I come upon you and this comment. Thank you!
I'm just wondering if they really even "stole" the idea because like... there's different undertones of tanners already for decades, that's not new. And having questionnaires to help people choose theor colour isn't new either. So like... is it really a stolen idea? Or is Bondi Sands just doing a better job in being represented because they are an existing well known go-to brand. Bondi Sands isn't personally mixing like this guy, like that's HIS sale point, he's "personalising" per client. Very different in my opinion
I wouldn't be surprised if they nabbed the concept from him, but they simplified it and sold it and had the financial backing to mass produce it at a rate he can't match.
He says in a clip later in this video that he stole the idea himself - that it’s what brands did for celebrities he worked with. I guess making it for us pleebs is an idea, but not his own fully original idea.
@@268anita that's what I mean, it's nothing new. I don't even think having that many shades is necessary because depth is created with layers and processing time. Sounds like a big hype up
Omfg he DOES remind me of Steven Mango! I KNOW i wouldn't have been as nice. The fact that she even took the time to respond says a lot.
With the way he offered unsolicited advice on her orange tanner the first time, I would instantly block him everywhere 🤪
Period! Don't ask me for a favor then proceed to talk mess about me🥲
It's so awesome to hear your perspective on this! I've been seeing a lot of people defending Matthew just because they hate Makayla. I do not like Makayla at all, but she is not at all responsible for this man's choices. You said it so well! 👏
the mic is so beautiful and so are you!
Thank you for this breakdown! Your examples of him behaving like a disappointed date and how the situation should have been treated as if it were a mechanic friend favor helped frame this in such a clear perspective
When you said you were about to be 44 my mouth dropped open! You look incredible
ETA: my husband is a letter carrier too. When you said you’re not home enough to go buy things and when you are you’re too tired, I said “oh yeah she definitely works for the post office” 😂
Wow, thank you! Oh, your poor husband. I hope his found his holy grail of comfortable shoes🖤🖤🖤
@@AudraReinsOfficial he got a doctors note to wear Brooks sneakers instead of those awful postal ones thank god!
Ahhh... he's a CCA then? I'm an RCA. @Alicia-Rene
@@AudraReinsOfficial nope, been a regular for 5 years! His office is super strict about everyone wearing the postal issued shoes though. They got rid of CCCAs up here too (NH) they’re all PTFs now but basically glorified CCAs lol. I gather you’re in Texas? Idk if it’s different there
He sounds like the FUN guy of the group. Neeever any drama with him, noooo.
Please do more commentary videos. I think your channel would blow up. You’re so funny and easy to listen to. As an AUDHD human, even this 2 hr live kept me interested.
Thank you! Will do! I can usually only pop on 1-2 times a week due to my 9-5 job. 🖤🖤🖤
This very much feels like a case I would see on Judge Judy
😂not Judge Judy!
Such an interesting and engaging (& nuanced!). Thank you Audra for sharing this story & so glad that Robert linked this video.
Robert is such a kind person. Thank you for stopping by and I hope to see you in a chat sometime🖤
Homie shaking the pill bottles will never leave my brain . Thank you for this 😂
He got the attention he was looking for just not the attention he wanted!
Robert Welsh’s post sent me here. LOVE your whole attitude and vibe…absolute 🔥 why not ask his followers to tag their most beloved content creators to look for upcoming people to contact 🙄 I tried to be on his side but no!
oh. BTW, i don’t think he actually ordered $10k worth of product nor do i think he has $10k worth of product in his living room. 🙃🤷🏾♀️
here 4 months late haha, got recommended by Robert Welsh! I am so glad I watched this I loved your commentary. I do not like Mikayla but I also don’t like people giving this guy all the pity just because they hate her. A person can be wrong in some situations and right in others. Thank you for your nuanced take!
Replying 2 weeks late😭🤣 thank you!
The set up and execution of this story was pure brilliance. I was hooked from jump.
Rich Lux did a video about this guy and apparently he destroyed all his Jeffree Star stuff and now he’s apologizing for it because he did it for her during the mascara thing and now he’s sorry because he’s mad at her.
I am not at all surprised if that's true. 😹
“..the bottom half of my legs is yellow.“ 😂😂i died. I scared my dog while i was dying. He's ok now. Im still dead.
New sub. Here for you for life now. ❤❤❤
YOU ARE SERVING THE UMA FROM DESCENDENTS HAIRCOLOR OMGGG!! /pos
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This whole thing is just creepy. His entitlement is creepy. I feel harassed on her behalf.
Me too! Who does he think he is?
Drama sells and he knows it. He we totally did all this on purpose
I do think he used this drama to sell out his product. It's a shame he did it at her expense.
He needs to take that product he has sitting in his house and send out a ton of PR before it expires.
It's puts the lotion on the skin and it gets the orange...HAHAHAHA
It makes me boil that people especially men feel entitled to women’s attention/time/free labor etc. she literally owed him nothing. None of what he did on his own is her problem. Should’ve paid for sponsorship!! Then you could’ve controlled her content like he clearly feels he deserves.
I just watched a video by Manifestelle about a similar topic. Now let me watch this replay and see if I learned anything! Lol
💯 even if it wasn't her regular rate, just paying and having a contract would've avoided ALL of this.
I use Tan-Lux Express that works the same way… I’ve accidentally fallen asleep and the ONLY thing that happens is that it’s too dark… it’s not THAT! Has even ever said how many he’s sold? If he’s sold 20 and got 10 pictures that is not enough to say it’s not going to affect anyone differently!
He acts like he had a CONTRACT with her?!!!!! It’s ridiculous.
That's been my MAIN issue. He's after her like there was a legally binding contract. Let me tell you, any time anyone tells me they're going to do something for me in this business, even my friends, I don't worry about it unless it actually happens. 🤷🏾♀️ why get bent out of shape about it. Contracts, on the other hand...different story
When she said “color grading” i was like LOLLLL you mean saturation 😂
😂😂😂 it was quite the shock when she took that off!
Saturation is part of/under color grading.
Correct me if I’m wrong but it sounds like he didn’t even provide her with the product! In the text messages he was recounting it sounded like she said something about ordering her product! Also how did he possibly think this whole thing would make him look good?!
His entitlement is really hard to watch. A self tanner video is a big commitment and time consuming, people want to know how it applied, how was the smell, did it transfer, how long did it last, how did it fade. So multiple recordings over at least week for a true review. It's unfortunate he's gotten so much attention and benefit from dragging her.
I honestly believe he used the momentum of the Mikayla hate train to make himself famous
Another comment from somebody sent over by The Welsh boys 🤣
Love your video! When you said 'why am I like this?" I FELT that in my soul.
I am here to stay, keep being you!
Welcome!!🖤🖤🖤 James and Robert are absolute dears 🖤
I came and stayed for the shirt
Ohhh... hopefully you're into Scooby-Doo🖤
I've never liked Mikayla, long before any of her major controversies, but he's acting so entitled it's embarrassing and uncomfortable 😐
What if the orange color he was giving her grief about was his actual product?? And she didn’t do a video to slam it??
I thought the same thing! I thought he seemed like he was having a tantrum like "mine is NOT orange" but he can't possibly know the exact reaction it's gonna have on every single skin tone with different hormones, oils, temperature, pH etc..
Your facial expressions spilling all that tea even though we couldn't hear it lol!
😂 my face will ALWAYS betray me!
Honestly, the first time I encountered this situation, I didn’t like how she behaved. You really showed me how frustrating he is in the situation. Sigh, I just don’t like any of this. Not a fan of her, definitely not a fan of him. Mainly glad I got a long video from you 😂
Same! I was kind of feeling sorry for him, but other channel recaps didn't include all the vids of him going beserk. I'm surprised Mikayla had such a measured response.
When I first got wind of this, my initial reaction was, what did she do now😮, but then I got the details and was just...wow. there's a lot she does wrong, but this situation, imo, wasn't one of them. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch her content now, but I can admit when she is in the right.
loving the little singing interludes cos that is how my adhd brain works as well 💖you have a gorgey gorgeous voice!! Also, so sorry I found your channel so late, but grateful i'm here! Came from Theresa :)
This man is oscillating between entitlement and condescension 😅 lovely 😬
Oh no im sorry about your autoimmune diagnosis I hope it's nothing serious. Also I hope you're staying warm Audra. Also I just saw we have a conservation alert for tomorrow from 6am to 10am ughhh
Thank you! It's only serous for injury and surgery... other than that, I'm just sleepy a lot
@@AudraReinsOfficial I'm glad it's nothing too major at least! ❤️
From the beginning, it seemed like he was riding on Mikaylas advertisement to run his business, which is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he tried!
Googled and it says "Practically all currently available self-tanning products have as their active ingredient dihydroxyacetone (DHA)" so his stuff at twice the price of other self tanners is NOT unique. Your hair color and eye color are likely NOT even taken into consideration. It is JUST the pale/fair/medium/olive/brown part. If anything, he probably uses the SAME parameters of other tan companies and you get pale/fair/light OR medium OR olive/brown/black. I don't mean to dump on a new and tiny company but this is my read of his somewhat unneeded product. Some content creator can spend the money, buy a bunch and see if there is really a difference if they say they are a blue eyed blonde or a brown eyed redhead.
How have I never heard of this … Audra babe I hate that I missed your live but was totally captivated in the replay gang ❤
👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾 because I almost never schedule anything due to my work schedule😂
I laughed out loud at your Mikayla impression 😆 Another great video Audra! I love your take on these kinds of subjects, you are always thoughtful, fair, and hilarious!
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm usually good at impressions but hers is difficult to get right😂
Love the Beetlejuice reference. Couldn't get that Beetlejuice scene from my head once I saw that angle.
I just couldn't get past it! Change angles, it's making me nervous😂
The pill shake was crazyyyy😭
How was it his original idea if he saw people in hollywood doing custom for celebrities?
I must be the unambiguously white coalition 😂😂😂
Came here from Robert Welsh and happy I did this was really entertaining and I feel the same way.
1:11:07 Girlfriend actually had a very professional and measured response to the situation. Yeah, it’a shitty that she said she would and didn’t, but yeah, GF wasn’t getting paid. She wasn’t under a contract, she had no professional obligation to do anything.
This is giving “you’re successful, so you owe me”.
My parents are immigrants, worked their A$$ off their whole lives and relatives are always demanding a hand out bc they feel entitled to someone else’s hard work.
The best example ever of, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, is not always true. They can actually both be terrible people!
Mikayla's content was not for me even before I heard of the shady situations but now I feel kinda bad for her. I mean this guy... what to do to laugh, to cry, to go make myself orange 🤯 Saw you video on Robert and James Welsh channels and I need I love it, now I need to acomodate binging the rest of them and looking forward to the next ❤
I think the confusing part for me is that he wants Mikayla to review the product but he doesnt seem to have a tan in any of these posts. Isn’t that the quickest way to sell your product to be in a tank or something complain that she didn’t review it for karma points and then show how well it works on you?
Dang, no good deed goes unpunished 😬😬😬
The orange is why I will never self tan, I am way to white white with a yellow/golden undertone
"White people do a lot, it's getting out of hand" 😂😂😂😂
I'm almost wondering if all this drama is fabricated for sales & publicity.
When I'm quoted I scream laugh bc WHY AM I LIKE THIS😂
Seeing this 3 months late, saw a tag on Robert Welsh's page and just wanted to say - Nicely done :)
This is basically the Jacklyn Hill/Makeup Geek debacle all over again. Why you ordering product before you have a contract/video????? Why do so many influencers learn nothing from beauty community drama.
Very glad to have channels like yours and The Welsh Twins that are drama free
What I don’t understand is how he got product if they are mixed per order???
Listen...my THEORY, is that there are 125 shades and you get matched to one of them after the quiz.
First of all this guy reminds me of Steven Mango,
Second of all he sent her PR and she didn’t use it then he guilted her into reviewing it and when she didn’t do it fast enough for free he attacked. I probably would have not been as nice as her. I might have given it a shitty review and said I don’t like it it’s a bad product don’t buy this crap.
That quote even if I don't like you I am gonna like your body! THIS IS MEEE haha
I watched his live when this went really viral. He said in the live to go to her page and give her shit. He even said that her and body looks completely different compared to a few years ago. He was just so rude and nasty, clearly looking for clout
That's such gross behavior. I hate it when people resort to tearing down someone's appearance when they don't get what they want.
@@AudraReinsOfficial I think it says a lot about the person themselves! Great video, came from Robert Welsh and now subbed☺️
Did she pay for her order? Bc she mentioned placing an order?
2023 was the first time I bought tan, and it was Bondi Sands multicolour system because ONE they are a trusted company that Angelica Nyqvist uses and I trust her and TWO it's a light system, not heavy, and I could specifically choose emerald for my olive skin. Easy access in my local drug store that I can get discounted coz my mum works there and it works and looks good and comes off nicely (I use to be a beauty therapist and fully trained in spray tans). IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT, there should be people comparing these brands now. Anyway, the only reason I bought a tanner is coz for the past 5 years or more I've been a super goth hiding from the sun, pastey as fuck coz working night shifts and getting tattoos, it's been YEARS since I naturally tanned and I missed my deeper olive tone. Then summer hit and I haven't worn sunscreen the whole time to see how dark I can get.... I'm definitely darker than the tanner lmao. Don't attack me!!! I know it's naughty, I did cover my face and tattoos in sunscreen though. I've gone from fair-light olive to medium olive foundation tone lmao.
Hi! I am so glad i found your channel through James Walsh's recommendation. You forgetting to turn your mic back on between clips is SOOOO relatable and endearing! Still watching but just wanted to comment ❤
Beetlejuice didn't get the memo about Mikayla not being a non profit organization
😂😂😂 THAT PART
Just commenting on the “it comes down to that big businesses can pay individuals to promote their stuff” whereas small businesses cannot or at least cannot do so as easily. It is true and I agree with that but in this situation, if I was someone who’s worked with this tik tok guy to promote his stuff. Then one day a huge company comes asking me to promote their stuff which at that point I know it’s a rip off, then it comes down to my integrity. It is my choice if I wanna promote it or not. So yea big companies can do that but if the influencers refused, then the company can’t do anything.
Yes, both things are definitely true. I know it can get tricky if this is a full time job. Like, I can afford to say no bc this isn't my job... I'm just losing out on being able to quit my 9-5. But yeah, I feel you!
I saw your comments on Jen Luv’s video about the horrible blackface foundation offering from yourhforia. So watched this and I love your vibe. I just have two words for Matthew… Boy Bye! 😂😂 New subscriber to your channel though 😊
This whole situation comes back to the same skits we see on social media within the working environment: poor decisions on your end do not constitute an emergency or priority on my end :)
Men really can’t admit to making a mistake 💀 Guy would rather do mental gymnastics to keep the blame on the woman who he clearly has a very strange, parasocial relationship with 🤡 I caaaaaaaan’t
Ps you really make point after point after point 🔥 all facts, amazing
See... THIS is where parasocial relationships f@ck people up. His is unhealthy and it shows. Thank you for the love!🖤
🖤 for the researcher on the replay!
Appreciate it! They've felt the love🖤
I don't know who Mikayla is, but the audacity of this man! I'm fully invested into this drama, he is so ridiculous, he's giving extreme main character syndrome!
Dude wanted free advertising without having to pay for it gross
I am sure we all know she did not respond on lashgate because L’Oreal would have brought the wrath of the gods down in her and sued her homeless. I agree with everything regarding this self oranger oh I mean tanner issue. He did this as a publicity stunt.
The entitlement is horrendous, I've never used tann, since I'm fully mexican and 30% native American, so all I need is to go outside lol, but I dont want to wrinkle so I'm a pale as$
It’s not even about Free Work… it could be shit.
Australian Bondi Sands aka Bondi in NSW aka Bond-EYE like your eyeball.
Thank you! Isn't this a beach? I feel like I got that from some show😂
@@AudraReinsOfficial yes, Bondi is a beach suburb, very over hyped beach near Syndey. Honestly, most of the top rated beaches in Australia, and the world, are on the West Aussie coast. We don't get as much love on the west because we are the most isolated city in the world with low population, but it adds to the natural untouched beauty.
This did numbers! Ion know these folks but i stay for Audra
What if she didn’t like it or it made her break out or something? He went and ordered a bunch of product not knowing if she would even like it or give a good review. He wasn’t very smart.