DIY Outdoor Projector Screen - Made of Flex Seal
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- I made a 165" outdoor projector screen using FlexSeal and an old motorized insect screen. Stick around to the end to see me compare my DIY screen to a professional screen. Thank you to Zemismart for sponsoring this video, check out their new window coverings:
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Man, it's so nice to have someone on YT be so real. You're great and I always appreciate your stuff.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
I like this style of video, where you go through a project that maybe wasn't all you hoped it would be and/or that could be considered a failure in some respects, but that still ended up usable.
Thanks! Things definitely didn't go the way I planned, but hopefully it was at least entertaining :)
I love failure driven development. Sometimes I feel like that's how I run my life 😆
Dude! I think you're me, but from a parallel universe that's two years ahead of this one. It's getting freaky-weird how many times I start thinking about a project and literally your NEXT VIDEO is all about how you already did it. 🤣
I picked up a 70 inch motorised screen, with all additional cable, plastic conduit and fittings, even the screws, for just £60/$75 last week. The seller was upgrading his screen and was looking for a quick sale. It is in perfect condition as the seller really takes care of his equipment. At that price, why would I even consider spending megabucks on a touch-and-go DIY job like this?
I think that's everyone's dream having an outdoor projector 📽️
Nah night to short when warm, weather to cold when night is long
Awesome vid
The 4 screen mario kart looks awesome I want to do the same omg
It is a blast. That one night basically made the whole thing worth it. I can't wait to do it again.
Wow that's a lot of work!
Can't wait to see the media center video!
Not sure if mentioned below but what you can also try is the white plastidip spray if the matte clear comes off eventually. Since the plastidip is naturally matte and it sticks this may actually work out well for covering the screen im a matter surface
Love the failures, and the persistence.
I can’t believe that worked!
As soon as you started sanding I thought "Nooooo they sell matte-ifying spray at Home Depot!"
I would try spray painting the white Flex Seal a darker grey color. All good projector screens aren't solid white, but some form of grey, as the darkest an image can get is the screen itself. I've dealt with projection systems in a number of churches, it's a more fleshed-out market than you might think. But at scales smaller than theatrical-size, there really is no substitute for an actual television screen.
Spends 1200 bucks on flex seal DIY screen, and then buys an 1800 dollar screen just so he can compare it……. And then he gets to keep them both…… I’m doing something wrong with my life.
Tell me about it.
It's a rough life! Haha. I was covered in flex seal for almost 3 days though... it's a give and take.
Technically 800 of that 1200 was the actual projector, but yeah your point is still valid.
@@jimmaul it's sad when u spend more on the screen than the projector
Certainly a interesting idea and I appreciate your persistence but I'm going to have to 100% agree with your "and why you probably shouldn't do it" statement up front.
For everyone else, checking Avsforum would be a good place to start to see what other folks have done/are doing for outside rollable screens.
That is a massive screen! Nice 👍
You cant put a price on lessons learned. Thanks for the help!
If @rust-oleum doesn’t sponsor you they’d be fools because I just loaded up my cart with this product!!!
Good content. I like the journey of trying to go DIY on the "cheap." Thanks for sharing.
For the cost it may have been a good option to replace the mesh with screen material from Carl’s Place… unless you get a FlexSeal sponsorship out of this. 😅
Haha, no flex seal sponsorship. I hadn't heard of Carl's Place, but WOW, why are their prices so cheap? I priced out two different suppliers and they both wanted over $1000+shipping for a 144"x100" ALR screen. Carl's says $300.
@@TheHookUp I can’t remember exactly how I found them but I was looking for a big out door screen. I emailed them with some questions and the were very helpful. While asking questions about outdoor theaters on AVSforum.com I found someone who had a screen from them and he seemed happy. I haven’t purchased one yet as it hasn’t hit the top of my to do list. Their commercial business may be what keeps the cost down?
Great video, love seeing what not teaching opens your schedule up to haha
That's the truth.
The best screen I built was a black foam core white PVC coated board.
I was able to buy a 5'x10' for $63 it was a very pure white designed for printing on.
I'm glad I'm not the only adult who still likes to run around bare foot lol
'Round here we call those "Florida Shoes".
Awesome Video!! I love your perseverance!
Thanks Rob. Looks pretty good at night. 😁
I believe that Vivid Storm screen is for an ultra-short throw projector that projects UP from the ground, not down from where your projector was. Also, the Elite 150" manual pulldown screen goes for $225 (that is what I use for my outdoor pool screen).
The screen I use is a contrast based ALR, not an optical/serriform ALR screen. It works with any projector.
Probably one of my favorite videos that you have made. Very cool!!!
I would have covered the front in cheap clear packing tape and then flex seal the back. That way you get a smooth finish in the front and painting the back side won't push it trough
sick vid mr.T
Excellent review! I love your tenacity & exceptional ideas!
I bought a 30 $ screen for outside, works great, lol . Love your videos😀
you have a link?
Paint the back of the screen with black flexseal to increase the contrast. Also, you could have used something like cheesecloth or other fine mesh fabric as an absorption layer.
If you wanted to do it over from scratch you could have started flat on the garage floor and used less of the FlexSeal. Then sand it smooth for the spray paint. Also i think there are paints out there to paint walls to make a screen that are formulated for projectors that would give you even better performance than flat paint does. This one popped up in my exhaustive 2 minute search: www.projectorscreen.com/projector-screen-paint-on-screen. I suppose at this point it's time to move on to other things. I would be interested in projects to use a stepper motor. I bought a beefy one recently to play with but I don't really have an application. I don't want to build a CNC machine because they are cheap enough to just buy better and things like curtains can use regular motors and switches. Around the house there's not much to do but open and close doors, cabinets, and shades. My biggest issue is how would I physically attach a motor to a thing like a door from scratch. And not look extremely tacky.
Duck tape for the backside while painting and then matte spray paint instead of sanding forever
You could try using a gray matte finish on the screen to try to reject ambient light and darken blacks?
I do have a small piece of screen that I cut off of the original one that I have been using to test out different materials. The issue with going with any colored finish is that if it doesn't stick well to the flex seal then the spots where it scrapes away are really obvious. With the clear matte you don't really notice if a part flakes off and you can just give it a quick spray if it becomes an issue with glare.
@@TheHookUp is the flex seal tintable?
@@jimmaul Unlikely, its more like rubber than paint, it would need a LOT of stirring to get a uniform tint.
Thankyou !
I love the grassroots, upcycle, diy mentality of this channel…..*SPITS COFFEE* $2,100 screen?!
Haha, you talking about the VividStorm screen? That's definitely an extra step that I get to take as "UA-cam Expense", as you can see it didn't go to waste inside :P
This was awesome nice job!
Yes, I agree on the why you should not do this. It can go bad in so many ways, most of which is a heck of a mess!
And the sewing machine in the driveway gave me a good laugh. :D
Where's your sense of adventure! Also, operating the foot pedal of a sewing machine with your knee is harder than it looks.
@@TheHookUp I can imagine about the sewing machine.
It seems you left quite a bit of "adventure" behind on your garage floor, which is exactly why I would never attempt this - that and overspray from part 3. :D
But seriously, it's a good job really, and I wouldnt add the price of the projector in - you are just talking about a motorized screen that size, and you are no so bad into it compared to if you buy it. So you really did good on that!
The garage floor is like a history lesson of all of my projects. I like it that way :D
@@TheHookUp Ok - I'm glad you have an understanding wife! That would not go over so well for me - not that I care enought to let that stop me. :D
Funny story, it's actually her fault... She cast the first stone when we had just moved into the house and she was out there staining some furniture I had built. Everything was on a drop cloth and she tripped and spilled an entire quart of polyurethane on the floor. We cleaned up most of it but we still find splashes on the walls occasionally.
Elastomeric roofing paint would have done the same thing as flexseal at 1/3 the cost... good video though.
Yeah, but does Elastomeric roofing paint have memes?
lol this is DEDICATION!
Did you check on the cost of movie screen fabric to replace the old screen material? Just wondering if that would have been cheaper. I'm sure it would have been less trouble.
Yes, it seems that up to 120” is relatively inexpensive. 144”x100” was $1100+shipping.
In the video you haven't tried to roll the DIY screen, and I hope that the paint doesn't crushes when you roll it.
It rolls up and down without any issue. Thats the advantage of flex seal over paint.
Great video!
Use a roller brush and get a buddy on the other side with one too. And double team it
I did some experimentation with a roller. The texture and stickiness of the flex seal causes it to fling off the roller much more than paint does. You have to go extremely slow to avoid covering your surroundings in flex seal splatter.
The other issue would be convincing a buddy to come over and subject themselves to hours of flex seal painting. I've got some good friends, but maybe not that good :)
@@TheHookUp lol 😆 oh man sounds like you went through he1¹ with that thing. Do you of a home automation device that can sense motion or light that can open/trigger/ run a specific application on a pc ?
@@cppctek Haha, the good kind of hell though. Outside, being active, making stuff.
We have an ultra short throw, but this summer the heat and humidity has been ridiculous.
Yep, this is definitely only summer appropriate when there is a pool nearby to cool off.
I was thinking this would be a collaboration with Phil Swift, the spokesperson for the FlexSeal commercials and the crazy things he demonstrates 😆
Surprised you didn’t just try an ambient light rejecting (ALR) fabric from the onset. It’s paintable, but Flexseal wd have been pointless. Probably cheaper to use the ALR fabric. Lots of videos on UA-cam for mixing your own ALR grayish w/ metallic paint (black grey white) undertones that gives nice reflectivity for vibrancy without any glare. And such ALR screens are watchable during some daylight periods. The ALR screens (even home made) really are many times better than an all white screen of any type. And ALR paint mix 3/4-1 gal can be made for $65-90. I made a 72in ALS painted screen for $125 and it performs as well as a $500 pre made screen.
I appreciate the effort, but you should of done a thin pre stretched canvas. Could of saved a grand.
Huh? I only spent $400. Would someone have paid me for the canvas so I could save a grand?
I wonder if something like washed tyvek would work better. Or, easier/cheaper at any rate.
Awesome! I love DIY. Now that you have a serious theater screen, next videos going to be Dayton DIY 18" subs? lol
My neighbors are very understanding… but probably not that understanding.
I love the idea of doing that simply because you can! Especially off salvaged free parts, nothing to lose really if it doesn't work out! I am curious though, you mentioned that the clear matte paint doesn't necessarily stick to the screen. Does this cause problems when the screen gets rolled up?
It sticks, but if you scratch it with a fingernail it comes off. From what I can tell it doesn't come off from rolling.
Oh hell yes, the stealth indoor home theatre is exactly the project I've been looking to do but am a bit too daunted to get started. Can't wait to see your video!
The biggest issue to me is that the finish isn't flat. How would spraypainting it on work, do you think?
"I've spent more on dumber things!" yup. I'll definitely add that to my file of rationalizations. Or as I tell my wife on occasion, "It could be worse, we could own a boat!". Those things consume money just sitting there..
Haha. I have a boat :(
It does burn money, but also makes great memories.
@@TheHookUp My wife has horses, so almost the same thing :-)
@@lmamakos True, except "The boat died" is a lot less permanent than "The horse died".
I’m in Home theater Installations, brother you could’ve gone about this so many different ways custom size screen for Your roller for about the same price
What about a plastidip version instead of flex seal?
I will say my experience with the flex tape it doesn’t hold up well against uv light ends up yellowing and becoming very brittle after a few years
Shouldn't you have mounted the ALR screen to the ceiling for you comparison? ALR screens are directional and with the projector being ceiling mounted the ALR ridges would be inverted making the flex seal screen look way better than it is.
Edit: Sorry, thought this comment was on a different video. The Vividstorm screen in this video is a contrast based ALR screen, not lenticular/optical, so orientation is not important.
Why didn't use just order ALR material and hang it on your motors? Why all the hassle with trying to make a screen a projection material when you can just change the material?
Could I do this with a projector screen? I seen one online but the reviews say it wrinkles so I was wondering if I could do what you did on, but on the screen make it stay stretched out?
Do you think Matte Clear Oil-Based Interior Fast Drying Polyurethane would also worry on acreen?
Don't they make paint that creates a projector screen? Wouldn't it be easier to paint it on top of the flex seal?
What do you think about the BenQ TH690ST and the Optoma GT2000HDR ?
I see that video by Linus in your recommendations
Yeah, but can you identify the other 3 channels?
Harbor Freight sells mesh tarps with grommets all around the outside, and the gaps are not as uniform and overlap some, which might help the blow out on the other side. I might give that a try since I don't have the mountable area for a roller. If the plasti-dip worked well for the border, they make gray and clear smoke colors and they're much more matte. Could you sand the flex seal and just spray some of that?
The issue with going with any colored finish is that if it doesn't stick perfectly to the flex seal then the spots where it scrapes away are really obvious. With the clear matte you don't really notice if a part flakes off and you can just give it a quick spray if it becomes an issue with glare.
I’m doing this for a new pool build. But Jesus. I’ll just spend 5K on a new one. I wish I had you patience and work ethic. Or was dating someone with it. I’ve just got too many projects
Does flex seal pain on dried flex seal ? If yes than a black flex seal would have worked as the border.
Yep, that was going to be my plan if the plastidip didn't work. Flex seal spray is pretty messy.
Why didn't you just use the matte white plastidip on the flex seal?
I was worried that plastidip would peel too easily.
The hook up , bro please do a video on ceiling cloud led game rooms , please! please! , I am having a problem with it , details on how to keep bugs out of the cotton , for it will not be a nesting hub for bugs , ways about going about to make it non flammable and make it safe , and on how to make a good lighting pattern ! Bro you the man at explaining things much better then others!!!!! I love some your videos and this would give you views like a mfer !!!!!!
I used a blend ofhome depot behr silverscreen for my wall and the picture is awesome
Curious why not use black flex seal?
You mean for the top and bottom bars? It was harder to work with than the plastidip.
@@TheHookUp I mean for the screen. Is black a bad color for a screen? Looked like the screen you bought was a very dark grey color.
hey have your brother send me one of those panels :) i'll give it a go with a bit of a different tack :)
I need an UST projector for church. Around 2500. I’m looking at the epson LS500. I need the image to be around 16 feet wide 9feet tall and I need the projector sitting on the Floor. I know the projector says up to 130 inches. But I’m moving it out further from wall. The LS500 is 4000 lumens.
My question: Is their a better UST projector around 3K dollars that you would suggest. Or is this the best? The Awol 2500 has less lumens but would it be better? Any suggestions please.
Also if I do a paint on screen does it really matter if it’s a projection paint or not?
Can’t wait to hear from you!
I would not recommend the LS500, it will not be able to properly focus a 150" screen. LTV2500 does have the ability to focus at 150", but may be too dim if you have ambient light (especially if you are using a paint on screen).
My recommendation would be Epson LS800 which is $3200 for 4000 lumens and can focus a 150" screen, only downside is the black levels aren't great: amzn.to/3KyNUMa
@@TheHookUp wouldn’t I just set it for 130 and move it further from the wall? thanks for responding btw
@@pj3_pastorj3 No, the reason they list the maximum screen size is that the focusing lens has limited travel distance. If it is listed for 130" the maximum it will be able to focus is 130", it will project 150", but it will be out focus.
@@TheHookUp thanks for answering I won’t keep bothering you after this. last question. With either projector… How bad does image get when you move the projector to a bigger size. Let’s say to 200 inches? And is there a short throw you would suggest that could go bigger for same price
I'm not aware of any UST that can handle a 200" screen, the focus will be fuzzy for sure. With the LS800 you might be able to get away with 160" before it gets too blurry.
A short throw projector for the same or similar price doesn't really exist ($3000 is a strange price for non UST projectors, most are under $2000 or over $4000). But the Optoma 4K400STx would fit the bill. It's a bulb projector though, so expect to need to replace the bulb ever 3000 hours or so.
Great video detailing your outdoor theater project! I'm glad you decided to compare it to a 'real' ALR screen as a control.
Looks like you and your sponsor both know your audience! I have legitimate questions on the shades, though, as we're thinking about purchasing them. Our new home is almost done being built, so we're looking at smart blinds for the whole house. I'm glad you pointed that these can integrate with HA, they're a great fit for this channel. Can these Zemismart blinds be flashed with Tasmota or ESPHome firmware for local control? Are the motors reasonably quiet? Are they acceptably fast to open and close?
Thanks!
1) Can these be flashed with Tasmota/ESPHome? No, they use the Tuya WBR3 chip, which is not ESP based. Tuya is working with home assistant to make a local integration but its not set in stone yet. BUT, that's not how I would control them anyways. If I were doing a whole home installation of these blinds I would use a broadlink RMPro (local polling HA integration) or Sonoff RF Bridge with Tasmota (Local MQTT) to learn the RF commands, that way you wouldn't need 10 different WiFi devices.
2) At 2:10 I left the sound of both blinds in and didn't speed up the footage. The roller shade is quieter and faster than the cellular blinds.
@@TheHookUp Awesome! Thanks for the prompt reply and great advice! I'll keep these in mind as we're shopping around. Of course, I'll use your affiliate link if we choose them. Thanks!
What do you use for audio speakers in the outside setup?
I've had these: amzn.to/3lWEHRF for a little over 5 years. I didn't think they would last, but they have!
You can see them at 2:33
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“I’ve spent more on dumber things”
lol. What a very bougie way of self justification.
😳🥺🤓
Thank you for spending your money so I don’t have too because #singlemombudget
/r/DiWHY
::crying::
wrinkles in the screen... no thanks. not for people with OCD. I am not even a video/audiophile and I wouldn't do this.
It's definitely not the same quality as an indoor screen. However, if you look around online at outdoor screens I think this is a better result than even some of the $4000-5000 ones.
You would be surprised what your mind can ignore, we use to enjoy outdoor movies on the side of our shed, which had siding. The horizontal lines eventually "disappear". For proper view, yes the indoor setup is preferred, but outdoors is fun, and usually affords a larger audience! We find movies that are "so bad they are good" are the best to show outdoors!
The truth...this was an incredibly horrible and janky idea. Except, it made that moderately entertaining UA-cam content and of course the ohh so valuable Title/Thumbnail. It was diy but it certainly wasn’t economical. There’s plenty of more logical diy options.
No doubt. I think I said that in the first 20 seconds of the video.
waste of money just go to Karl's place and buy a screen
I actually did that shortly after posting this video. I got pro gray, I’ll post a comparison when it arrives.
Total waste of time and materials. Spend 20,000 on a video system and project it on crap. Too little brains and too much money.
20,000?
@george 777 this must be the 1st video you’ve watched. The channel has a ton of really useful and smart content. Plenty of brains and pretty savvy on how to save money!
what a waste of time....
Eh. Think I'll just get a custom screen made out of proper material. Nice try though.