I agree. They already had a reunion of the classic lineup in the ‘90’s. Just leave it alone if they’re not all going to be in or if any of them have health concerns.
I totally agree, thank God I was fortunate to have seen the original band on the reunion tour. Bill with the band rounds out the sabbath classic sound. That should never be overlooked.
Over the years Sabbath ALL treated Bill like crap and he never really got the credit he was due for the success of the band. I've recently read Geezer's book 'Into The Void' and he confirms my contention by writing that Bill was always the fall guy, but I would ask him, did anyone ever ask Bill how HE felt about it?😖
John Bonham and Bill Ward are my favorite drummers of all time. I was heartbroken when I heard "Black Sabbath" rejected him. Not only is Bill an awesome drummer but he's also a great guy. But Dio wasn't treated fairly either. It's a shame they gave Dio the boot too. But Black Sabbath isn't Ozzy Osbourne. Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler. Bill Ward laid the perfect foundation and Ozzy was the icing on the cake.
Just a few shows with the original 4 would be great. I understand where Bill's coming from... 1 show barely shakes the rust off, rehearsals notwithstanding......ideally, they could set a goal ( a month of rehearsal, then fine tune it a bit, pull out a few deep tracks etc. ) then play 4-5-6 shows & really get it right. I could see them pulling this off. And it would be glorious, both for the fans and the band.
I just BARELY missed their "The End" tour and it would be just incredible if Geezer would agree to do one last tour series so I could have a chance to see those legends perform
@@brianmayroam I would like to see them play songs off of Vol. 4 ,Bloody Sabbath,Sabotage,Technical Ecstacy , I guess Master of Reality. Sick of 1st two albums.
In February 2017 I was at Black Sabbath’s LAST EVER GIG In Birmingham. I paid a lot of money for the ticket and turned down TEN TIMES that amount from people wanting to buy my ticket from me. But NO, some things are worth more than money. If Sabbath do another gig now, that will be the biggest kick to the plums I could ever have. As another great English musical quartet once sang: Let it be!
Bill had said a few years ago that he would like to record again with the original 4. He didn’t feel like a tour was a possibility considering the health of everyone involved. He wasn’t involved in the last tour because Sharon decided that he should be paid the same as a cheap hired gun and not as a band member. There was no mention of Sharon in this video but that is a big part of the equation too.
@@csnide6702Sharon is involved in anything and everything that Ozzy is involved with. She calls the shots way more than Ozzy at this stage of the game.
@@csnide6702she doesn’t speak for them but If Ozzy is part of this then her demands will be met or it won’t happen. The band management will have to negotiate with her for Ozzy to be involved.
Ward and Geezer have the special bond of a drummer 🥁 and a 🎸 bass player.. That relationship is strong and tight in any band and beyond discussion in the regular sense of a vocalist or a guitarist. I believe that unspoken bond transcends band complications or earthly terms. I believe the music itself has already decided and the desire and action is concived already.
So many saying no for no reasons good enough. It's one more time with, hopefully, all four of the original members. There isn't going to be any negative Sharon influence with this !.
Before "kicking the bucket" they should get together and give it one more last push ........... in the name of "heavy metal" and the Gods of rock and roll ............. let it be peaceful between all of you and ignite the fire that once belonged to you.
Hopefully when this reunion with the original members of Black Sabbath go back on stage, Bill Ward should play drums from the songs from Black Sabbath’s final album 13 and Geezer Butler should definitely play bass on the songs from Ozzy Osbourne’s album Patient Number 9, Degradation Rules and No Escape from Now with Tony Iommi on guitar and Bill Ward on drums and make a new live album
It might be best if the 4 of them went into a big room and played ......No cameras , no fans , Nobody except Black Sabbath .........They would come out Better than ever
I've seen Sabbath twice live, but never with either Ozzie or Bill Ward. On the Born Again tour in Salt Lake City, I remember that it was clear a second encore was coming up, but couldn't imagine what they'd play because they had done all the major Sabbath hits. Then it dawned on me--"Smoke on the Water". What a great memory. One last show with the original members would be great, but a full tour is certainly out of the question because of health and age issues. But like the Celebration Day Zeppelin final show, the chances of most of us seeing them are realistically less than zero.
Seen them twice, once with Dio the other with Ozzie, so glad to have seen the original. Buycwhen theyvreleased the album without Ward, i refused to listen to it. I heardcit once but notcagain because itcwasnt the whole band. However, if theyvdo another album with all original members, im all in and hope it does happen! We need a nother fonal album that is as good as the first 4 albums!
I saw the Black Sabbath The End tour. Eight years ago ? Ozzy barely could get thru it Tony and Geezer were basically stone statues. The only one with any energy was the drummer Listen to your top 15 sabbath songs you would want to hear live one last time and tell me Bill Ward could play them, with any energy . Bill Ward was a powerhouse drummer in the same style of Keith Moon and Ginger Baker there is no way an almost 80 year old who isn’t in the best physical shape could do it with any conviction. I would guess he would struggle with one song like War Pigs or Hand of Doom let alone a second song without a break some hydration and oxygen.
Saw Sabbath in early (?) 70’s Yes opened the show(excellent) .. I’m not positive but I believe it was one of Sabbath’s initial U.S. concerts.. Great bands
1972 Yes opened up for Black Sabbath in 1973 Rick Wakeman played keyboards on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath track Sabra Cadabra and Wakeman's son Adam Wakeman played keyboards for them on the End Tour.
I hope the great Black Sabbath can get back together and perform once again, even if on a limited level. Please gentlemen, the world needs a performing BS, if even only a few gigs.
I think ozzy should do a solo finale and bring out the Sabs for a few songs near the end, honoring them and acknowledging his time in the band but not making it a full last concert which would screw those who were lucky enough to be at The End
What about a 6-8 week residency in Vegas? That seems to be the norm now. No traveling. No setup. Plush & comfy. That’s a no brainer as far as I’m concerned.
They would know whether or not they could pull this off the moment they begin rehearsals. IMHO I don't think they will do this. That all 4 are still alive and kicking is the real news. As much as I would like to see this happen, I also don't want them to embarrass themselves or their legacy with a subpar performance. Ozzy's heart is in the right place, though. Sabbath forever!
Ozzy, and especially Sharon are not trustworthy. Don't do it, Sharon will screw them over as usual and Sharon will make sure Ozzy and she will get the lionshare of the money
@@mr.brenman2132Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne are 50/50 co- owners of the Black Sabbath name and franchise anyone else is a paid employee for Black Sabbath including Geezer Butler who sold his share of the Black Sabbath name in 1985 to Tony Iommi until the settlement out of court in 2010 between Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne.
So Bill Ward isn't likely to sign any contract for another gig and isn't healthy enough to play in Black Sabbath any more unless his demands for money are met and probably a second drummer is on stage since he's had two heart attacks already. Ozzy Osborne has Parkinson disease and hasn't played live without audio playback and a metal brace holding him up like at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham England and the halftime show at Irvine Stadium in California that's what. @@mr.brenman2132
Re Ozzy .....Black Sabbath is not 'his' band any more than it is Tony Martin's or Dio.Neither is Sabbath a 'puzzle' , its just four working class blokes who should be able to get their own shit together and fk the lawyers and hangers on. Call themselves "White Xmas" and just go out and play if you want to, otherwise shut TFU.
Tony "What, you want to gather smoke a spliff and jam in a barn", Ozzy (sharron) "No, I want to make another few million dollars, I have no interest in playing for free and fun". He's a zombie, this could be elder abuse. I don't know why they don't just make a Album, no Tour, they are in their late 70's early 80's, it's a joke. A new Original Album might not be.
Ozzy could pull this off.. borrow the famous chair from Foo fighters..Axl rose did it..Let Ozzy song from a chair... fk it..he can still sing his ass off..
Doubt Ozzy is in good enough shape, even for a one off. But this 'news" put them in the limelight and might uptick album sales. Would love to see the other 3 perform an instrumental tour though, if you have listened to the remasters of Black Sabbath (the song) and Electric Funeral with no vocal, they sound amazing, Bill's drums are brilliant and the other 2 are magnificent together
There's always a war between the members of Black Sabbath that will screw up the original lineup of the final show and they are all very fortunate to be alive.
So Ozzy was against the idea of Bill joining them on the farewell tour and really doubled down on the insults slung at Bill prior to the tour but now wants it? You couldn’t make it up could you!
I really hope that they can patch it up for one show that has all four original members....For me it just isn't a Sabbath reunion without Bill Ward.... The guys are all getting up there in age.....some or all have health issues of various degrees......they need to let bygones be bygones and do a show together....and give Bill what he deserves for payment..... Hell....do the show for a 4 way even split..... Black Sabbath deserves a REAL finale....while all four members can still do it.
Sabbath is done. Ozzy is physically unable to tour and can barely stand, let alone sing. We'll, he can always mouth to a vocal track and people will pay for it. I don't understand that, but hey, you do you.
For them to reform for A Farewell Tour would be on the same page as Elton John's endless Goodbye Yellow Brick one. Why not? Judas Priest keep going at it with half of their original members, as does both The Who & The Stones. Why not? Sure, I'd rather hear Them them than Guns &, Slaughter, Dokken, Ratt or any of the later bands that fffaaded away after the '80's. Stuff out now is as Townsend had said.. "shit that's been played over for generations. Agree with Him. Let's hear them back...
saw the original reunion in 1997.. with all original members..it was great, that was long ago..I don't believe it would be possible now, the guys are getting old..
I’m guessing some of the members of Sabbath are reluctant to participate due to the legendary reputation Sharron has of not treating musicians fairly when it comes to money issues.
Well, they can’t just do one show! If they’re healthy enough to pull it together, I got at least 15 shows and one of them damn well better be in Albuquerque, New Mexico! Lol
some things must end.we ve got their discography.their legacy.in general i dont like to see such old guys to perform.even metallica or gnr are too old to pay money to see them.i wouldnt go
If they can deliver a performance that is worthy of the ticket prices they will charge then I say go for it. If not, stay at home and play with your grandchildren.
I just don't think Ozzy can do it at all now. In their last tour, he was singing as much as TWO steps below the key of the songs he was singing. Just awful. I'd love to see it happen, but I think they'd all end up embarrassed. That's no way to go out.
Bill Ward is 76 years old Mike he stated on Eddie Trunk 2 years ago he doesn't have the power to drive Sabbath live any longer that he would have to be in his early sixties to do that . Hair is not the problem his health is a big problem. Take care 😊
If it wasn't for Tommy Clufeto they wouldn't have been able for The End ! shows which ended in Birmingham England 2017 . I attended the Last Supper shows in Charlotte and Raleigh NC and he was great not in 2005 when he and Ozzy were terrible it was Tony that carried them through those shows. 😊
Judas Priest played a 2 hour set and Sabbath played less than an hour had tickets on the 4th row in Raleigh and saw his decline back then sadly 😢 would not want them to tarnish their legacy because of Ozzy wanted to play a final show once again . Take care Mike
Completely ridiculous, Ozzy is and will never again be fit enough to do this , very sad to say , seen him a number of times over the years but it’s over as it will be for all of us at some point
Bill Ward is the greatest drummer in history. He deserves massively more credit that got.
Ward's unique drum sound was a vital component to the early Sabbath albums. It was a sin that he was not included on the final tour.
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Ward said he was physically unable to play the songs anymore, it was nothing personal.
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I miss the 70's.
I want to go back
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I don't.
So do we all want to go back to the 70 my friend.
Don't fear the Reaper.🤘🤣
@@jonncockrell3606 you can stay here in the 2020s and we will go back to the 70s take care my friend.
Only with the great Bill Ward otherwise I couldn’t care less
I agree. They already had a reunion of the classic lineup in the ‘90’s. Just leave it alone if they’re not all going to be in or if any of them have health concerns.
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Bill Ward doesn’t get enough credit for being one of the icons he is he was as influential as Bonham and Moon
I totally agree, thank God I was fortunate to have seen the original band on the reunion tour. Bill with the band rounds out the sabbath classic sound. That should never be overlooked.
I'm thankful to have seen the Never Say Die tour on their original run in '78 with Van Halen. Couldn't have dreamed up a better first concert.
Bill Ward got a major screwing from Sharon Osbourne. I would say no.
Over the years Sabbath ALL treated Bill like crap and he never really got the credit he was due for the success of the band. I've recently read Geezer's book 'Into The Void' and he confirms my contention by writing that Bill was always the fall guy, but I would ask him, did anyone ever ask Bill how HE felt about it?😖
I bet Ozzy and Sharon are planning on reaping the rewards of a last show and only pay the others as hired hands.
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 Pretty safe bet!😥
@@alexgolovchenko3791They never treated him like crap. The only issue was the the End tour. Bill has been in poor health for many years.
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 as they should
For it all to come full circle , would be awesome for all !
Ozzy is in no condition for a reunion show. they would only be a shadow of their former selves. let it rest.
Nothing will ever be put to rest if there’s money to be made.
John Bonham and Bill Ward are my favorite drummers of all time.
I was heartbroken when I heard "Black Sabbath" rejected him. Not only is Bill an awesome drummer but he's also a great guy. But Dio wasn't treated fairly either. It's a shame they gave Dio the boot too. But Black Sabbath isn't Ozzy Osbourne. Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler. Bill Ward laid the perfect foundation and Ozzy was the icing on the cake.
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Sabbath should do one last tour. They could call it the "One foot in the grave tour".😁
Bill and geezer best rythym section of all hard rock genres...1
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Absolutely
Just a few shows with the original 4 would be great. I understand where Bill's coming from... 1 show barely shakes the rust off, rehearsals notwithstanding......ideally, they could set a goal ( a month of rehearsal, then fine tune it a bit, pull out a few deep tracks etc. ) then play 4-5-6 shows & really get it right. I could see them pulling this off. And it would be glorious, both for the fans and the band.
I would also like to see a full album to go with that shows
What a blessing in my life to have come up on their music. Still my GOATS. Please work it out and reunite.
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pleasesssssssssssss this has to happen best sound ever recorded
I just BARELY missed their "The End" tour and it would be just incredible if Geezer would agree to do one last tour series so I could have a chance to see those legends perform
Their music got me through high school… I’m all for this but…
Didn’t they already do “one last performance” 47 times now?
Yes! Unless they are going to do something different than the same dozen songs
@@brianmayroam I would like to see them play songs off of Vol. 4 ,Bloody Sabbath,Sabotage,Technical Ecstacy , I guess Master of Reality. Sick of 1st two albums.
In February 2017 I was at Black Sabbath’s LAST EVER GIG In Birmingham. I paid a lot of money for the ticket and turned down TEN TIMES that amount from people wanting to buy my ticket from me. But NO, some things are worth more than money. If Sabbath do another gig now, that will be the biggest kick to the plums I could ever have. As another great English musical quartet once sang: Let it be!
Lol what a selfish reason for being against a reunion
@@johnLennon255Give him some money than since you are so benevolent
Was Bill Ward there? No? Then, it wasn’t Black Sabbath.
@@Fakename70 Totally agree.A semi-reunion, i guess.
You’re a fake fan if you count that clown tommy klufetos as part of sabbath
Imagine as a 17 year old going to see sabbath at the Glasgow Apollo in 78 and Van Halen are the opening act. Both in their original line ups too.
Sheffield for me.. 16..
southport with van halen and liverpool empire on that tour for me.
Bill had said a few years ago that he would like to record again with the original 4. He didn’t feel like a tour was a possibility considering the health of everyone involved. He wasn’t involved in the last tour because Sharon decided that he should be paid the same as a cheap hired gun and not as a band member. There was no mention of Sharon in this video but that is a big part of the equation too.
She has absolutely nothing to do with managing Sabbath.
@@csnide6702Sharon is involved in anything and everything that Ozzy is involved with. She calls the shots way more than Ozzy at this stage of the game.
@@johnrosier1686 yes... OZZY ... but she does NOT speak for Tony or Geezer..... she has NOTHING to do with sabbath's management.
@@csnide6702she doesn’t speak for them but If Ozzy is part of this then her demands will be met or it won’t happen. The band management will have to negotiate with her for Ozzy to be involved.
@@johnrosier1686 and that's fine ... I'm saying She has absolutely NO influence over Tony and Geezer .
Ward and Geezer have the special bond of a drummer 🥁 and a 🎸 bass player..
That relationship is strong and tight in any band and beyond discussion in the regular sense of a vocalist or a guitarist.
I believe that unspoken bond transcends band complications or earthly terms.
I believe the music itself has already decided and the desire and action is concived already.
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So many saying no for no reasons good enough. It's one more time with, hopefully, all four of the original members. There isn't going to be any negative Sharon influence with this !.
That would be great". But as you know her ass will be in the mix somewhere!!!
They were the first concert I ever saw in 1972.
Let’s do this!!
Before "kicking the bucket" they should get together and give it one more last push ........... in the name of "heavy metal" and the Gods of rock and roll ............. let it be peaceful between all of you and ignite the fire that once belonged to you.
a Final performance with all 4 original members,A final album with all 4 them would be awesome,they dont have to tour,just new music would be cool
shoundnt happen ,but a small tour with tony martin on vocals would be cool
LET'S DO IT!!!! Drive up to Ozzy's mansion and BEG HIM
Hopefully when this reunion with the original members of Black Sabbath go back on stage, Bill Ward should play drums from the songs from Black Sabbath’s final album 13 and Geezer Butler should definitely play bass on the songs from Ozzy Osbourne’s album Patient Number 9, Degradation Rules and No Escape from Now with Tony Iommi on guitar and Bill Ward on drums and make a new live album
That sounds interesting Sharons probably thought of it already.
It might be best if the 4 of them went into a big room and played ......No cameras , no fans , Nobody except Black Sabbath .........They would come out Better than ever
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I've seen Sabbath twice live, but never with either Ozzie or Bill Ward. On the Born Again tour in Salt Lake City, I remember that it was clear a second encore was coming up, but couldn't imagine what they'd play because they had done all the major Sabbath hits. Then it dawned on me--"Smoke on the Water". What a great memory. One last show with the original members would be great, but a full tour is certainly out of the question because of health and age issues. But like the Celebration Day Zeppelin final show, the chances of most of us seeing them are realistically less than zero.
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Seen them twice, once with Dio the other with Ozzie, so glad to have seen the original. Buycwhen theyvreleased the album without Ward, i refused to listen to it. I heardcit once but notcagain because itcwasnt the whole band. However, if theyvdo another album with all original members, im all in and hope it does happen! We need a nother fonal album that is as good as the first 4 albums!
Saw them 6 times in my life but with Bill only 1999 ... if Bill is not there this time and they do tour , I'M NOT GOING...
A lot of people feel the same way. If there are a ( one off show) that should include the mighty BILL WARD...
I saw the Black Sabbath The End tour. Eight years ago ? Ozzy barely could get thru it Tony and Geezer were basically stone statues. The only one with any energy was the drummer
Listen to your top 15 sabbath songs you would want to hear live one last time and tell me Bill Ward could play them, with any energy . Bill Ward was a powerhouse drummer in the same style of Keith Moon and Ginger Baker there is no way an almost 80 year old who isn’t in the best physical shape could do it with any conviction. I would guess he would struggle with one song like War
Pigs or Hand of Doom let alone a second song without a break some hydration and oxygen.
Love Sabbath to bits but I think The End should remain the end & Ozzy to be happy with his own solo finale.
Saw Sabbath in early (?) 70’s
Yes opened the show(excellent) .. I’m not positive but I believe it was one of Sabbath’s initial U.S. concerts.. Great bands
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1972 Yes opened up for Black Sabbath in 1973 Rick Wakeman played keyboards on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath track Sabra Cadabra and Wakeman's son Adam Wakeman played keyboards for them on the End Tour.
I hope the great Black Sabbath can get back together and perform once again, even if on a limited level. Please gentlemen, the world needs a performing BS, if even only a few gigs.
I think ozzy should do a solo finale and bring out the Sabs for a few songs near the end, honoring them and acknowledging his time in the band but not making it a full last concert which would screw those who were lucky enough to be at The End
a concert is cool and all . but its a one time thing....what they need is another album ( or 2 ) those are forever !!
I don't care what anyone says thay are Metal.... period....
What about a 6-8 week residency in Vegas? That seems to be the norm now. No traveling. No setup. Plush & comfy. That’s a no brainer as far as I’m concerned.
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Tony Iommi goes into the Birmingham England Hospital for cancer check ups every 6 weeks. He is in recovery from lymphoma surgery.
Sabbath at The Sphere… he’ll ya
Ozzy kept me waiting 3 years with a ticket to see him and Judas Priest at O2 cancelling 3 times. Don't count on him making any more gigs!
Please dont. Just retire and enjoy the next ten years + .
They would know whether or not they could pull this off the moment they begin rehearsals. IMHO I don't think they will do this. That all 4 are still alive and kicking is the real news. As much as I would like to see this happen, I also don't want them to embarrass themselves or their legacy with a subpar performance. Ozzy's heart is in the right place, though. Sabbath forever!
Black Sabbath is the kings of heavy metal
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Ozzy, and especially Sharon are not trustworthy. Don't do it, Sharon will screw them over as usual and Sharon will make sure Ozzy and she will get the lionshare of the money
They want to do one show. Ozzy, Tony, and Geezer got equal money for the final tour. This is for Bill.
Don Arden taught his daughter that!
@@mr.brenman2132Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne are 50/50 co- owners of the Black Sabbath name and franchise anyone else is a paid employee for Black Sabbath including Geezer Butler who sold his share of the Black Sabbath name in 1985 to Tony Iommi until the settlement out of court in 2010 between Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne.
@@richardhincemon So?
So Bill Ward isn't likely to sign any contract for another gig and isn't healthy enough to play in Black Sabbath any more unless his demands for money are met and probably a second drummer is on stage since he's had two heart attacks already. Ozzy Osborne has Parkinson disease and hasn't played live without audio playback and a metal brace holding him up like at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham England and the halftime show at Irvine Stadium in California that's what. @@mr.brenman2132
I’ve already witnessed shitty reunion shows by KISS and Van Halen. I refuse to do the same for Sabbath.
The Kiss reunion in 96 was great. It was a dream come true .The last 20 years wasn't a reunion and not my dream.
Sabbath reunion was in 97 and the Last Supper tour was in 99.
Monkees recent reunion was a bit flat....only Dolenz showed up
Probably my all time favorite band, and Ward was a Phenom, but they had decades to make this happen with Bill, let it go guys…
Re Ozzy .....Black Sabbath is not 'his' band any more than it is Tony Martin's or Dio.Neither is Sabbath a 'puzzle' , its just four working class blokes who should be able to get their own shit together and fk the lawyers and hangers on. Call themselves "White Xmas" and just go out and play if you want to, otherwise shut TFU.
How far do you want Tony to tune down so Ozzy doesn’t destroy everything? The End tour was a nitemare with Ozzy’s vocals. Just call it quits already.
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They should have worked it out when they did 13, we would have at least got another album with Ward even if he didn't tour
If I we tommi I would tell Ozzy to pound dust...
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The background music of this video is awful.
lol 😝 it is
Tony "What, you want to gather smoke a spliff and jam in a barn",
Ozzy (sharron) "No, I want to make another few million dollars, I have no interest in playing for free and fun".
He's a zombie, this could be elder abuse.
I don't know why they don't just make a Album, no Tour, they are in their late 70's early 80's, it's a joke. A new Original Album might not be.
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Ozzy could pull this off.. borrow the famous chair from Foo fighters..Axl rose did it..Let Ozzy song from a chair... fk it..he can still sing his ass off..
The End is The End !!
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Doubt Ozzy is in good enough shape, even for a one off. But this 'news" put them in the limelight and might uptick album sales.
Would love to see the other 3 perform an instrumental tour though, if you have listened to the remasters of Black Sabbath (the song) and Electric Funeral with no vocal, they sound amazing, Bill's drums are brilliant and the other 2 are magnificent together
Interesting video
please !!!!!
There's always a war between the members of Black Sabbath that will screw up the original lineup of the final show and they are all very fortunate to be alive.
Yeah and the one that's behind all of it is Sharon
Everyone put on your big boy pants & play the show!
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They REAL problem is finding a nursing home with a large enough cafeteria to support the show.
One show you can do it.
So Ozzy was against the idea of Bill joining them on the farewell tour and really doubled down on the insults slung at Bill prior to the tour but now wants it? You couldn’t make it up could you!
If Bill Ward is not included, it’s not worth it.
Don’t agree to anything until the lawyers study it hard first. You certainly can’t trust Sharon!
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@@plus1entertainment - You trust her? She has a documented history of fucking over musicians.
Just do it while you still can im sure tickets will sell fast
What is this that stands before me, figure in Black which points at me?😢
I really hope that they can patch it up for one show that has all four original members....For me it just isn't a Sabbath reunion without Bill Ward.... The guys are all getting up there in age.....some or all have health issues of various degrees......they need to let bygones be bygones and do a show together....and give Bill what he deserves for payment..... Hell....do the show for a 4 way even split..... Black Sabbath deserves a REAL finale....while all four members can still do it.
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Sabbath is done. Ozzy is physically unable to tour and can barely stand, let alone sing. We'll, he can always mouth to a vocal track and people will pay for it. I don't understand that, but hey, you do you.
It'd be one show. Not a tour. Ozzy can do one show. As long as somebody shoves Sharon in a trunk and locks it to stop her from fucking it up.
Aren't all of these guys rolling in money? What difference would one or a couple of shows do financially for them?
They aren't in it for the money it's saying farewell in their hometown of Birmingham England
Will they do it ,a gesture to the Sabbath fans or wouldn't they because of the money?
Let it go. The time is passed.
They are opening for led Zeppelin to set the attendance record once and for all taylor
Split the money.
He's talking about one show that's not a tour.
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Black Sabbath without Ward is like Zep without Bonham. They should do a handful of shows and keep Sharon’s grubby mitts off of it
Yeah the last final show for fans 🤟
For them to reform for A Farewell Tour would be on the same page as Elton John's endless Goodbye Yellow Brick one. Why not? Judas Priest keep going at it with half of their original members, as does both The Who & The Stones. Why not? Sure, I'd rather hear Them them than Guns &, Slaughter, Dokken, Ratt or any of the later bands that fffaaded away after the '80's. Stuff out now is as Townsend had said.. "shit that's been played over for generations. Agree with Him. Let's hear them back...
Bill should be there it's not really Black Sabbath without him...
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saw the original reunion in 1997.. with all original members..it was great, that was long ago..I don't believe it would be possible now, the guys are getting old..
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I’m guessing some of the members of Sabbath are reluctant to participate due to the legendary reputation Sharron has of not treating musicians fairly when it comes to money issues.
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Well, they can’t just do one show!
If they’re healthy enough to pull it together, I got at least 15 shows and one of them damn well better be in Albuquerque, New Mexico! Lol
some things must end.we ve got their discography.their legacy.in general i dont like to see such old guys to perform.even metallica or gnr are too old to pay money to see them.i wouldnt go
Damn ozzy must really need money
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Sharon is the reason Bill Ward was not involved last time.
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Sharon and Bills wife had a fall out many years ago, thats the problem.
If they can deliver a performance that is worthy of the ticket prices they will charge then I say go for it. If not, stay at home and play with your grandchildren.
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you only live once--DO IT______
Yeah, can not wait for it. 🤟
I think Ozzys condition is the main factor here
Don’t do it. Let the Band Rest in Peace.
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I feel lucky to have seen the original four. I had no interest in the final shows with just three of them.
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,,,,, time will tell
Bill Ward is Black Sabbath,there is no Black Sabbath with out Bill Ward.
Gotta be the Original 4 (or plain-and-simple) = "It's NOT Black Sabbath" C'mon at this age, put your ego's to rest and give The FANS what they want.
Only if auto tune is involved!
Don't do it Ozzy go home
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I highly doubt Ozzy could pull it off physically
I just don't think Ozzy can do it at all now. In their last tour, he was singing as much as TWO steps below the key of the songs he was singing. Just awful. I'd love to see it happen, but I think they'd all end up embarrassed. That's no way to go out.
If they do a few dates bill needs to grow his hair out long one last time
Bill Ward is 76 years old Mike he stated on Eddie Trunk 2 years ago he doesn't have the power to drive Sabbath live any longer that he would have to be in his early sixties to do that . Hair is not the problem his health is a big problem. Take care 😊
If it wasn't for Tommy Clufeto they wouldn't have been able for The End ! shows which ended in Birmingham England 2017 . I attended the Last Supper shows in Charlotte and Raleigh NC and he was great not in 2005 when he and Ozzy were terrible it was Tony that carried them through those shows. 😊
Judas Priest played a 2 hour set and Sabbath played less than an hour had tickets on the 4th row in Raleigh and saw his decline back then sadly 😢 would not want them to tarnish their legacy because of Ozzy wanted to play a final show once again . Take care Mike
@@richardhincemon yeah I know Bill Ward add said that a couple of years ago
@@richardhincemon yeah I know that Bill Ward had said that I just don't see them doing any shows
Completely ridiculous, Ozzy is and will never again be fit enough to do this , very sad to say , seen him a number of times over the years but it’s over as it will be for all of us at some point
Sharon ruins everything