I watch a lot of ancient history content, so when this popped up I was like “Yeah, of course he couldn’t. Reading cuneiform was a highly specialized skill known only to the scribal class and an imperial ruler like Sargon would have had no need of reading.” Then I saw that this was my politics corner not my history corner.
@@littlemoth4956 I saw a comment from a cashier who worked at a grocery store who said she's stopped asking people to wear masks after a lady turned and said "I don't give a damn about your health". Fuck these people man
Fun thing him picking 50k. Either that means that “over 2000 in two weeks should bother him” because generalized out to the year it is over 52,000, or it means he finds a crime rate that includes at least 1.3 million hate crimes against migrants in the UK, a country with a foreign born population of about 8 million based and a muslim population of less than 4 million, based on numbers I was able to dig up. And that is literally just… reported hatecrimes. That is… fucking horrifying.
@@educprof2160 Well, no shit. Despite what the leftist propagnda says, dominance and penetration have always been linked with masculinity, while the opposite was always associated with femininity. Just look at the ancient Greeks. They didn't frame sex as "straight" or "gay" (mainly because such mindset is an invention of the 19th century), but rather as “giving" or “receiving”. Unless you were a woman, it was looked down upon to enjoy submissiveness. As such, those who enjoyed “receiving” were stigmatized within the Athenian society and were kinaidoi (men who allowed other men to penetrate them). This was a degrading word, suggesting ancient Athens (the so-called open-minded Greek city-state of antiquity by leftist morons) wasn’t gay-friendly at all. In fact, Athens had laws that strictly frobsde what we define as homosexuality today. As for the rest of the ancient Greek city-states, they would be classified as “macho” societies nowadays, with Sparta being especially disapproving of men who engaged in homosexual activities. It was a general characteristic of these macho societies that being dominant (or “giving”) was noble, while being submissive (“receiving”) was the opposite. For a Corinthian or a Spartan male to deliberately choose a submissive sexual role, he was seen as a type of traitor, one who willfully accepted being ignoble for sexual pleasure
I cannot BELIEVE that Sargon thinks the author is worried about the bots being harmed by the sexism rather than the bot users' behaviour being reinforced by the bots' responses
I honestly think that it doesn't even occur to him that it's a problem. Like considering that maybe the way people interact with these digital assistants normalizes the awful things they say to, y'know, real actual people, is so far outside his realm of consideration that he can't even be bothered to give it a passing thought.
I think part of what makes people like Sargon so disturbing is the avatars they choose for themselves. The picture he uses in front of his streams is a reflection of how he genuinely sees himself: a philosopher king sitting reclined and slightly bored on a throne of reason where he passes judgement on people who come to hear his wisdom. The level of ego and hubris is astonishing.
Which would be fine if he was smart and worthy of coming to for life advice but you know.... He's a fuckin dumb shit garbage person with compost for a soul and is the poser child for frog men sooo... It doesn't really work lol.
It reminds me of how Fred Fuchs of the Sons of Kojima fame used a Scarface avatar to make himself look like this "big guy that no one wants to mess with" when he would constantly "ghost" his way through social media and Skype conversations.
Unless he stated how he picked his avatar or you read his mind then... nice projection you got there. Not everyone picks hers/his avatar based on how (s)he identifies herself/himself. Based on my history of avatars I used to pick them based on my interests and usually they were nothing like how I see myself or who do I pick as my role model. What if he did the same? Picked something based on his interest years ago and it sticked. Just thing in analyzing other people is giving them benefit of the doubt if you dislike them (as people are biased against people they dislike). There is a number of legit points for which you can bash him. Making projections is not constructive but also makes you look bad if you look at it from the side lines.
Yeah, Sargon's whole philosophy is "fuck you, I got mine... I'm a liberal btw." Listening to him debate is even worse - his brain can't operate outside of stereotypes (feminists hate men, communists are evil, capitalism is good) so he has a fundamental inability to understand arguments that don't already align with his beliefs.
@@lilstevechan8427 You yourself dont even understand what "far right" means, so thats hilarious. But thinking everybody else is stupid without being able to explain how is part of being stupid. Congratulations.
I am half Indian and have never felt a need to feel this "representaition" in goveernment, or on TV. I don't understand this feeling some people seem to crave to see someone with their same skin color staring back at them on a screen. As long as I feel someone somewhere believes some of what I do. Even then I don't need to see or even really know of that person, because I know I got my line of thinking from somewhere.
@@GarlicGrinder9 i think the reason people want representation is also largely because it can be used normalize a certain view of said demographic, as well as combat others. It's even useful to just make people aware of their presence and to humanize them.
@@rolfs2165 But here's the thing: if assistants only had male voices, feminists would be complaining that female voices wouldn't be represented. So is it better to have only male voices and leave female ones out of it, or to only have female voices to make them seem subservient?
Capitalism is just a tool. Its not a system of oppressing women you white knight dimwits. As opposed to all other ideologies on the Left that quite literally almost oppresses everybody.
@@cl8804 Correct. Capitalism is just a tool that allows for freedom of choice. Some women don't like the choices other women make, and use the end results of their choices to argue for inequality to benefit themselves. Its pretty sneaky.
@suburben yobbo What about the rest of his video? That one story doesn't mean that the rest of the *commentary* is moot and thus shaun is all you say...
@suburben yobbo True, that was inferred on my part. As shaun is a commentator, I would expect there to be critics. I don't just understand how he is bigoted, or a classist?
@@AM-bo2ns very enlightening. Well as it is germany it seems, much like Britain, hate crime recording can be quite nebulous. Here is an example taken from germany's OSCE data: "2016-5 A Kingdom Hall was pelted with eggs" Now that isn't to say that there isn't a range of seriousness in the category hate crime with some dispicable acts. But as both Shaun and Carl are engaging in a political debate and are both British. I think Shaun was arguing in bad faith on this point.
@@SansAppellation Well. Here's my country's federal definition (Australia) "unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person, or of some or all of the people in the group." Hate crimes are another classification of crime. If someone punches me in a random fight, is that not different to someone punching me because of my race, religion, gender etc. A personal characteristic?
Thanks for the response, this was quite some time ago, but in response to you: Difficult to say, I've had a stranger (step out from a group of lads) throw a random swing at me in broad daylight as I was walking down the road in Manchester, UK. We were both white. I've seen what I assume was a group of Chinese friends in a comedy club in Sydney beat the shit out of another guy who was out with his girlfriend. Some people are just cunts unfortunately I'm not sure legislating for what I think their reasons were is a particularly useful step into the future. Is a group of white teenagers egging a church because they think it is funny and edgy, a hate crime? What if it's a mosque?
"researching" more like he finds an article with some buzzword in the headline or first couple sentences that he doesn't like, like "feminism," "patriarchy," "racist" etc, screenshots it, then starts filming himself screaming about how stupid the article is despite having taken some of it out of context
That is perhaps one way to interpret it (which is true; women (and men, although the market for women is larger) can be prostitutes), but I believe he's saying that women can get ahead in the workplace by exploiting the fact that men are constantly vying for their affection.
Kevin But if you follow that logic through to its conclusion, doesn't it suggest that the workplace is sexist anyway? Rather if women are able to get ahead in it by seducing men, that suggests that men have power and influence allready and the way women "get ahead" is by seeking their approval through sexual favours. I don't think this is actually the truth in most workplaces anymore, since thankfully women and men have far more equal footing than say, the 60s. But the argument of "women can get ahead by being sexy" only works when there are allready men in a position of power, and the act of doing sexual favours to gain approval only keeps this hierarchy in place. So if this is what Sargon genuinely thinks, that women have this tool of sexual attractiveness, then that thinking is deeply flawed.
TotallyCarbon of course men hold positions of power, but that doesn't mean that women can't also hold positions of power. By the same token, a man may be able to use his sexuality to get ahead in the workplace, but I doubt it would be as effective; especially with sexual harassment policies.
Dream Delirium in the case that you're suggesting I hold either of those anti-fem views, I do not. Those are rediculous strawmen. I would appreciate some criticism of ideas that I do hold, if you have some time to discuss.
Syrup Sandwiches I'm pretty sure it's this one. watch?v=rc24YtUslCU&feature=youtu.be&t=623 Didn't post the entire link because YT is weird with links and often deletes comments with them.
Isn't it funny that Sargon constantly made fun of the myth of the patriarchy, yet, everything slightly feminist is part of a global anti-men conspiracy? No wonder why he got ripped by the likes of Metokur and british media when he ran for office.
@FilthyDankWastemanFabuless We live inClown World. Him and Dankula did joined UKIP and postulated to represent their respective cities or whatever, Karl got chewed, spitted and then buried by media for being an edgelord, pretty much everything that Mister Metokur warned him that was gonna happen if he tried to do it, imagine wondering who this two goofs were and coming across a video of Dankula and Sargon saying _"Why did you made us do this Anita? We just want to play our games"_ I'm paraphrasing but they said something like that.
Both are somewhat true but his selectivity is not even remotely uncommon. Liberals ignore the prevalence of societal neglect, abuse, and exploitation of men as well as women receiving favor. However he laser focuses on these and forgets that there are places where women are treated the same as, or even less than a 7 year old boy. Weirdly enough opposing social claims are often both true if you account for more than 1 place exisitng
Really a false equivalence. Feminism talks about the harm that the patriarchy has to both men and women. Conservatives just use men’s pain in the patriarchy to hurt women - and everyone else too, but subjugating women is a goal.
22:34 Has Sargon never heard the story Whoopi Goldberg tells of seeing Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek as a child? "Mama! There's a black lady on television and she ain't no maid!" When you're not part of the majority, representation matters.
He's so distressed by one person being excited for being represented in media, he would go absolutely apeshit if he saw how excited Finns get collectively whenever Finland is mentioned in foreign media. Then again, most Finns are white, so I don't think he'd actually care at all :D
I'm a brown guy who has lived in a similar household to what Riz probably lived in. My mom and dad would always be happy seeing Indian/Pakistani actors on TV and movies because it showed that Hollywood and UK cinema as well as TV cared about them. I for one was pretty happy seeing Riz Ahmed in Rogue One because, as a Pakistani who has lived in Britain for most of his life, I felt proud seeing someone like me on the big screen
Wild Card Bitches Yeehaw That would involve the far-right understanding cultural differences among ethnic groups. Which they tend to fail at, revealing their simplistic world view.
Well obviously Carl is part of the majority so he has never not be represented in British media. But that would't be a problem if Carl wasn't so hellbent on refusing to ever put himself in someone else's shoes.
I can't believe I never noticed how he structured his arguments. No wonder the guy never sounded wrong, because he make his own question and answer it. I'm really glad I stopped watching and unsubscribed.
I found some of things he talked about useful and interesting but I kept fact checking him which means I never actually believed any of his opinions. The ANIFA video was at least somewhat education if you ignore every other sentence or so.
The way that Sargon reads an article is the same way Cinemasins watches a movie. They both pick out one small detail, come up with a criticism of that point, and include it even if that criticism is contradicted by the very thing they’re criticizing later on. Very funny
except at least cinemasins is mostly doing it for funsies and is not expected to be taken seriously and is AWARE he's not being taken seriously. Meanwhile this guys egos so high his avatar is literally Sargon of Akkad (probably)
@@littlemoth4956 actually, he frames his videos as counting the sins of a movie equally, so some "sins" are perceived continuity issues that aren't actually there because he didn't understand the movie, some are simply jokes making fun of the movie, and others are valid criticisms, all being treated like the same metric. You can argue all day that because its jokes it shouldn't matter but that doesnt mean its not a piece of shit channel
The whole compilation of "I don't see how that's an issue at all" "seems like a total non-issue to me" sums up 200 years of conservative thought perfectly.
I cannot STAND the sound of Sargon talking. I was like "this is a good video with a charming voice for me to play in the background" and then we finally get to the part where he is talking, and his voice is booming and dripping with self importance, god. How do so many people stand to watch his videos?
Do they need representation??? Why??? I mean that's life when you're a minority in a country dude... The progressive left once us to live under the tyranny of the minority now...fuck that and fuck you 😡
This video didn't age well, because you gave Sargon the benefit of the doubt that he was stupid and not just out right racist, and now we know it's both.
@@tomdoyle6030 Maybe if you weren't poisoning the well, I would, but it's obvious you're asking such a ludicrous question in such an absurd way because you don't care how the guy who thinks that black people are predisposed to criminal activity. Yeah, he's totally not a racist, he thinks everyone should be treated equally, even the bad kind of people.
There are countless of better nicknames for that big brained individual, such as the Stepfather, Quadroon of Akkad, Sargoy al Applebees, the Soyfather of Swindon or (my personal favorite) Sarg'n of Blackdad
Sargon: *reads an article about smart assistants and goes through the roof, tells people to go to the gas chambers, etc.* Shaun: *only raises his voice slightly after enduring half an hour of racist bullshit and still apologises for it* Seriously, how is this man so calm all the time?
@@shanekhan6492 Wow, sounds like your kind of man is…pretty weak. That’s kind of pathetic actually. I can’t think of a weaker kind of boy than someone who is so unable to handle anything negative that they freak out and lose control of their anger.
Please forgive my ignorance. I thought this was going to be a history video on how new discoveries imply that a famous historical figure was in fact illiterate...I feel less smart...
@@oatmealcoloured9950 Yeah it's not your fault, it's the fault of the dipshit who sought to make himself seem like an intellectual by picking a name off wikipedia.
I know this is a bit late, but Charlemagne was illiterate, for an interesting reason too. He hadn't learned to read in his youth because the quality of Frankish script was so illegible, that modern scholars who have studied it for years still have to trace their fingers around the path of each letter. It was that bad. One of the crowning achievements of Charlemagne's rule was the Carolingian Renaissance, a resurgence of art, literature, and theological study. Part of this brief Renaissance was the development and introduction of Carolingian Script, lettering that far more resembles the standardized Latin characters we use today. P. S. I didn't want to leave you without a famous illiterate historical figure, so here you are.
I'm going to be honest: I legit suspect that Sargon's accent is part of the reason anyone takes him seriously. I don't know where in the UK it originates, but Sargon has the specific type of regional English accent that's usually associated with intellectual characters in TV and film, and I think that leads some people to subconsciously assume he's "smart" despite the tenuous veracity of his statements. I have no hard evidence or anything, it's just a suspicion.
Sargon: Pounds his fist on his desk when his own child is sleeping in his house (he said he records all his videos at night). Shaun: Whispers so he dosen't wake up someone else's child. Shaun confirmed goodboy.
As a sane person, I feel the same about anyone who doesn't treat an article about AI assistants being "female servants" and responding to amusing "abuse" dismissively as hilarious feminist propaganda. But everyone is different. Some people are triggered by "offensive" words, some people are triggered by offensive ideas.
+SpamQGamers "it is purely about idealism, for sargon cause akkad is the ideal he cannot reach it." Given that we know almost nothing about the historical Sargon (we don't even know where Akkad was) beyond his having created an empire and being the subject of the first recorded historical parallel, I'm not sure what that 'ideal' could even be.
I have been subscribed to Sargon for around 2 years and have been something of a fan of his, but lately I've been growing increasingly disillusioned with him. Thank you for making this video.
Hey man, glad to hear it! I used to be pretty into him and some others during gamergate, and got kinda anti-feminist at that point. Since then I've read up on it and learned a lot more and it's all pretty reasonable and understandable, even things Sargon and others scoff at. Things like the patriarchy, you know? Keep questioning things and try to do your own research!. It sounds like you're doing well at that already though :)
@@davidhinkley Hey hey, don't discourage people like that. That's what sets people on the defence and makes them stop wanting to pay attention to the arguments the opposite side makes.
@@contentfreecornucopia499 True, Sargon lost his touch with reality the more he made videos. He went from someone complaining about people on social media to this paranoic conspiracy and constantly refering to this ominous "they". I still think the idea of the patriarchy is pretty dumb, tho. Care the elaborate why you think is true?
To be fair. The way Shaun describe it first, it sounded like the writter wanted that Cortana or Siri gave a lecture on why harassment is bad, which does sound kinda dumb, although, he clarifies later that it is more broader and intelligent than that.
@@spark154 The writer is smart in my opinion, he got his article to be read on multiple youtube channels. The first few lines and headlines got the job done.
@@MM-vs2et Even if you do read the article, it doesn't change the fact that the headline is intentionally and purposely contentious, and the introductory paragraph is plain inflammatory and misleading (Assistant bots are not women in any way, digital or otherwise. And ALL of them have a male version, a fact that is completely ignored). Shaun tries to chalk it up to the writer's attempt to engage more readers, which is a very lame excuse. By the same token we can call the worst of tabloids "good journalism". There are similar issues with the content of the article. To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying that Shaun is completely wrong. The article does have its merits. Still, it clearly has gaps a rabid antifeminist like Sargon can latch onto.
@@TinyShaman I think that's what outlined here though? Shaun and everyone here was pretty clear that it was interesting for the most part, not that it was world changing exactly just well done at grabbing people. It's no different from saying that Fox and The Sun are good at grabbing people's attention and fear-mongering, though I 100% you're take on the fact that the article*is* being praised to a higher extent than it's counterparts would. And not for good reason.
Honestly nothing he says at this point should surprise me, but I gasped when he said "There's one for the gas chambers." I think he revealed everything anyone needs to know about him right then. What a disgusting individual.
The moment you make reference to the holocaust in a positive way is the moment everyone knows what you're about and that is the point at which every audience member needs to lay their cards on the table. If you direct someone to him saying that and they still support him, there's no more room for the excuse that they might be misinformed and believe he is a legitimate figure.
@SpursFan214 joking about this sort of thing is actually a method to get people comfortable with the idea. There is a lot more too it, but if you find someone joking about the holocaust, you are probably not far from someone who denies it ever happened or was that bad or even a bad thing.
@@Michael_Paul585 No, denying it outright is worse, you can easily rewrite history to the point of non-existant, case in point current day Germany where Merkel who is trying to rewrite history that the Nazi's do not exist (There is no reason to accept 1 million refugees without any structure behind it except to say well we aren't Nazis.) . At least joking about it reinforces that the actual event actually happened, even it's in bad taste but then how many years do we need before we can joke about it? 1000 years? Wait till it's erased from history before we can joke about it until the event repeats itself? Yet it's ok to make fun of America and it's school shootings behind everyone's back and it's acceptable even though it's happening weekly? Hypocrisy happens everywhere. And your misreading what he said, the stance that Carl says he's centralist not right-leaning.
@@SireSquish. Haha, that's not what I meant, though. I more or less was meaning to say that Sargon is too much, so the video should just be it's own length of time, rather than being timed by Sargon. When I thought it in my head, it seemed funnier.
@@SireSquish I believe à sargon is 5 minutes long, as sargon one time complained that a counter video to one of his videos was too long when it didn't say everything in 5 minutes
41% spike in hate crimes is apparently insignificant and inconsequential.... imagine if someone said ANY other crime went up by 41%, how could that, by ANY measure be inconsequential. You cant just cast aside an increase that drastic because you dont view it as "proper crime".
If I remember correctly Sargon made a video on how Liberal controlled London had around a 10% rise in crime and that therefore the Liberals were allowing London to turn into a war zone. He’s also a few times said the UK should “rent out” the American police to deal with the increase in crime in some cities in the UK.
"Assault and harrassment up 41%" That headline would suddenly have folks listening. But the instant they think it's soley towards migrants and it's a different story...
+O. Kroeker What part isn't true? He set up a petition to get social justice courses removed from universities, did he not? It was a couple years ago so I may not be remembering correctly.
TheArchsage74 i looked up the petition, it was to suspend, not remove, social justice courses to have them evaluated for any openly bigoted, non-scientific, non-fact based lessons in the course and have that corrected. I'm not too sure how prevalent of an issue that is, but I don't disagree on that point, if there is actual bigotry and mis-information being taught to students I'd want that to be corrected, especially considering how much debt a student racks up attending college, they deserve to get the best education for their money.
Well, giving political views a platform is one thing, shoving them down students throats the other. Just like Sargon was comparing two different things with the refugee and migrant stuff, you are comparing too different things in your comment.
That's a false equivalency though, isn't it? Sargon is not saying university students being taught to analyze the universe through the lens of Nazism is fine.
My mom is like this. Shes anti mask and when I informed her there has been 200000 deaths from covid in America, she replied that's a small percentage as a hole
@@chrisf9377 The problem is not the deaths, it is the consequences of serious infections (about 20% of infections), where mental illness, reduced intelligence and worse lung capacity have been noted.
“It was obviously a joke. She’s not a real person! Where’s the harm?!” - Sargon, defending himself in court while on trial for sexual assault; circa 2023
I like how Carl is like: "If these were people in my community, I'd be calling them in." So, how many white nationalist terrorists who have cited him as a fan has Carl called in?
Those are lone wolfs, silly. Sure they have the same skin color, typically have the same religious affiliations, the same beliefs and the same motivations, but they’re all COMPLETELY unrelated to him and everything he stands for.... whatever that is.
@@aarishowton8037 And besides, he already criticized a bunch of them, but do you really expect him to do it for each new one that comes up? I mean, obviously he doesn't support it, why would you expect him to...wait hang on here
You may have just saved my sanity with this upload. You've managed to articulate perfectly all the issues I have with these sorts. Armoured Skeptic is bad enough but at least he isn't chucking out lines of Greek philosophy to mask what are basically taxi driver rants.
What really sucks about Armoured Skeptic is the fact that it seems like he could be won over and see the error of his ways, but he just refuses to step outside of his limited viewpoints.
Anti-sjw money is too good to pass up. When pro social justice leftist videos become the new "in" thing that I think it will be, then I can promise you that people like chris ray gun will change their tune.
I have to ask, what's wrong with Armoured Skeptic? I dislike Sargon as much as the next man, but I generally agree with what Greg has to say. He's slipped up a couple of times with a couple of poorly thought out videos but he's only human, as a whole I found his content quality to be fairly high. Also what anti-SJW money? It's not the anti-SJWs who are addressing the United Nations or anything. In the wider world anti-SJWs are usually written off, whether for better or for worse.
I followed Sargon for a while until I saw how mean-spirited he was, and how he didn't bother to research things properly. Thanks for taking the time to debunk him and his ilk.
I watched 2 videos of him initially and though, 'Hey! This guy is fresh.. didnt take long for me to figure him out.... shame it takes longer for people to figure out the likes of Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, and that lott.'
@@gediminaspuskorius1195 You don't have to be a killer to hurt people. And wanting to hurt people in general is a pretty shitty thing to do, if you ask me.
@@gediminaspuskorius1195 So just because some people might not die of a hate crime but get injured it is not that much of a problem? I mean with that logic rape is just stupid as it is not that normal for people to die in rapes
once again. injured by what? you get injured when someone tells you that you are delusional ? i mean by your logic if the doctor tells that patient has cancer he is commiting hate crime against patient? or simply stating the truth? its not what you like to hear but thats just how it is.
sargon's argument about how women can "take advantage of capitalism" by selling their bodies actually made me physically sick, and reminded me once again how sexist our current society is, without us even realizing it! Thanks, sargon!
Prostitution is one of the worlds oldest professions. He merely made that point, he did not encourage anyone to do so but that they are free to do so. But again the modern Leftists let their emotions and the act of offending themselves get in the way of a factual argument.
@@tovsteh its his failure to point out how sickening that is that's the problem. surely you can agree that we shouldn't live in a society that supports women so little that they must sell themselves online to make ends meet.
Sargon: I do not see a point to this. Sargon: Therefore there is no point to this, as I am the arbiter of all points. Sargon: I must therefore make a video about how there is no point, such that the evil feminists know they are not allowed to consider there a point to this. Sargon: Genius.
I'm so glad there's a UA-camr like Shaun. He's never angry or bombastic, always calm and just giving information or explaining. Never making personal quips to degrade a point and actually cares about statistics and also understands so well how essily statistics can be misleading. Got me out of the alt-right rabbit hole. Thank you.
So many people complain about him being too monotone but I prefer this to the usual loud screeches and unnecessary insults of the anti sjw and right wing UA-camrs
How do you hear that someone was exited to see a person like them on TV and not realise "Wow maybe representation has a positive effect on young people and even adults in minority demographics.". Like I remember reading about a similar thing, I think it was something Whoopi Goldberg said about when she first saw Uhura on Star Trek wen she was a wee girl, she was enthused that she was seeing a black woman on TV who had a job on a star ship. Like I can't imagine my reaction to that being "Oh how weird why would you do that? I didn't get exited about Nurse Chapel!" because OBVIOUSLY I wouldn't, because I'm white I see people who're white on TV all the time, the point is she reacted that way because it was something she wasn't used to and thus it was exciting. I was quite moved by the quote. It should remind you that something you may previously have taken for granted is not true for everyone, and hopefully reinforce that there's actually a real and identifiable problem here. Christ.
22:35 Yeah, Carl completely misses it, it's bizarre. But I mainly wanted to add this comment to say you are remembering correctly! Whoopi Goldberg is known for her response to seeing Nichelle Nichols as Uhura on Star Trek. > "When she was a little girl, Goldberg was a big Star Trek fan, because in the 1960s roles for African-Americans on television were scarce and often inconsequential - with Star Trek being an exception. On the U.S.S. Enterprise, the presence of Uhura on the Bridge crew connected with the young Goldberg, and her lifelong love of Star Trek had begun. "Well, when I was nine years old Star Trek came on," Goldberg says. "I looked at it and I went screaming through the house, 'Come here, mum, everybody, come quick, come quick, there's a black lady on television and she ain't no maid!' I knew right then and there I could be anything I wanted to be." *Link:* www.startrek.com/database_article/goldberg-whoopi AND Martin Luther King Jr. himself was a huge fan of Uhura! He famously convinced Nichols not to leave the show, when she was considering it. *Story:* > On Star Trek, Nichols was one of the first Black women featured in a major television series. Her prominent supporting role as a bridge officer was unprecedented. Nichols was once tempted to leave the series; however, a conversation with Martin Luther King Jr. changed her mind. Towards the end of the first season, Nichols was given the opportunity to take a role on Broadway. She preferred the stage to the television studio, so she decided to take the role. Nichols went to Roddenberry's office, told him that she planned to leave, and handed him her resignation letter. Roddenberry tried to convince Nichols to stay but to no avail, so he told her to take the weekend off and if she still felt that she should leave then he would give her his blessing. That weekend, Nichols attended a banquet that was being run by the NAACP, where she was informed that a fan really wanted to meet her. *Nichols quote:* > I thought it was a Trekkie, and so I said, 'Sure.' I looked across the room and whoever the fan was had to wait because there was Dr. Martin Luther King walking towards me with this big grin on his face. He reached out to me and said, 'Yes, Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan.' He said that Star Trek was the only show that he, and his wife Coretta, would allow their three little children to stay up and watch. [She told King about her plans to leave the series because she wanted to take a role that was tied to Broadway.] I never got to tell him why, because he said, 'you cannot, you cannot...for the first time on television, we will be seen as we should be seen every day, as intelligent, quality, beautiful, people who can sing dance, and can go to space, who are professors, lawyers." Dr. King Jr went further stating "If you leave, that door can be closed because your role is not a black role, and is not a female role; he can fill it with anybody even an alien." *Link:* en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichelle_Nichols *Link to video where Nichols tells the story herself:* ua-cam.com/video/pSq_UIuxba8/v-deo.html
My Ego is so low, my avatar on UA-cam is an ancient mythological man, supposedly lookalike with me, dressed in shiny golden robes, sitting in a shiny golden throne.
I argue the opposite. That he has a high opinion of himself. That he sees himself as a King amongst men. (I have no idea if the actual Sargon was a 'King')
+franco carrizo sparosvich Here’s the thing: We don’t know what the real Sargon of Akkad looked like. No surviving confirmed depiction of him exists. The bronze mask that Carl uses as his avatar is more likely a depiction of Sargon’s grandson: Naram-Sin. Where did I get this information from? Wikipedia... the same place Carl ripped his avatar from: The first image in the “Sargon of Akkad” Wikipedia article... that says the mask probably isn’t of Sargon of Akkad...
Why do people think it's "rational" to ignore context and supplementary information not immediately extant? Like, why on Earth would you think a headline is going to give you the full story? Why would we have articles at all if that were the case? That's literally the opposite of rational thinking. Context and explanation are necessary for critical thinking. Reacting immediately to something you don't understand is literally not rational thinking. And you know what, if that's how you behave, fine, I guess. React to things without thinking. Just don't call yourself rational at the same time. Oh dear, I need to calm down.
I always found it so confusing that someone as clearly bigoted as Carl would choose an Assyrian ruler as his online avatar? Although I do genuinly thank the guy for getting me interested in the historical figure, this was years ago during his earliest youtube schpeels!
@@zakbrown9256 Especially just a regular everyday English guy :sob: its kinda funny. Not claiming he is stealing the image of a race not his own, I know he can have a genuine interest in the figure, it just makes me giggle.
I'm sorry but I genuinely thought this was a 36 minute video of you roasting the actual historical King Sargon of Akaad, and I thought, "Ok, sounds interesting."
You deserve so much praise for standing up against all these gamerbros in a time when you guys were so intensely attacked and harassed for it. You have genuinely done so much to stop these young men from being manipulated and harmed, and been a great ally for our respective communities and I am very thankful for the work you’ve done.
@@john_smith_john Do you not remember what UA-cam in 2016/2017 was like? There were so many "anti-SJW" channels (e.g. Leafy) who would basically just attack and insult "SJWs" and encourage their fanbases to do the same
@@john_smith_johnNo. You downplay reality. Fake accusations, death threats and doxing are "just words" yet also criminal offenses. A lot of these loser magnets also flocked to other platforms after they were rightfully banned, so things are obviously different nowadays.
In regards to the "running down stairs to see an English man on tv" thing, the first time I saw an lgbt character on tv I stopped what I was doing and watched the whole episode with child like wonder. I had never seen someone like myself on tv and even though I'd never watched the show or even knew what show it was i sat through the entire episode, even turning off my phone, (something I pretty much never to while watching tv due to a really short attention span). It's almost like when you are constantly represented it becomes mundane and you no longer get excited to finally see yourself reflected well in media. But hey maybe I am just a stupid overly triggered sjw for wanting to see lgbt or diverse characters????
This is partly what the word privilege basically explains. It's how much for granted one takes some things which to others might be significant and rare. And when one is in the position of privilege one doesn't even take notice of it, so when others mention it you see them rolling their eyes and calling people snowflakes and triggered and hyperbolic. They think 'privilege' means that they're being accused of being like I don't know, wealthy, pampered people with no worries in life, which obviously if you assume that, then it sounds absurd. But they're just missing the point entirely. I mean I'm a straight white guy, I obviously haven't experienced what you're describing in terms of sexuality or race, but thinking about it, there is one aspect where it has happened. Seeing a legit atheist character on TV or film, who isn't just the usual "I don't know, I used to believe, I'm not sure", you know the usual portrayal of someone "lost" who's suffering and has lost faith, but in the end finds it again. You know, that crap. I mean a real atheist, and who isn't portrayed as a villain and/or psychopath. A rare one I can think of is Mcconaughey's character in True Detective. And even he was a depressed alcoholic or something. But you see it all the time, everyone is more or less religious, it's always the assumption, the default. And I found it interesting how surprising it felt to see one on screen. Now, this isn't the same, but I think there is a common ground there. In any case, with some empathy one could easily understand what it feels like and what that privilege is. But Sargon is completely void of empathy, so obviously he can't get it.
@@notquitemytempo1353 Rust from True Detective isn't that great of an example of atheist representation in media anyway. I mean, he *(spoiler alert)* is an edgelord supreme who became an insufferable nihilist after the death of his daughter. He then relearns the value of life after a having a quasi-religious epiphany following a near-death experience. *(end spoiler)* True Detective season 1 was great, but Rust's portrayal hardly flies in the face of the typical atheist stereotype, does it?
@@ScoopMeisterGeneral Well, more to my point of how rare or almost non-existent such characters are I guess. How rare for the character to be a normal person it is. But I was remembering that scene where he's mocking the dimwit religious people on that tent with the leader who's spewing the usual nonsense and they're giving their money. You know, you hardly ever see a character openly, un-apologetically mock religion like that on TV or movies. I vaguely remember an episode from like a black sitcom I think where someone's boyfriend is an atheist and they bring them for dinner or something and the conversation gets to religion. And he's painted horribly by the script. He might as well had said he was a pedophile, he'd get a better reaction from them. She actually ends up breaking up with him cause he doesn't believe in god. Just curious, can you mention any such atheist characters? I'd like to know which shows or movies feature them, maybe they're worth seeing. Thanks
@@notquitemytempo1353 I don't watch a whole lot of TV, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. But I will say that as with all forms of representation in media (gender, race, sexuality, whatever), the best way to write an atheist character is just to treat them like a normal person without making them into a stereotype. That doesn't mean you have to ignore or downplay the issues related to that person's identity, but you also shouldn't make it so their identity forms their _entire character._ It can be a pretty difficult line to walk. Brooklyn 99 comes to mind as a show that deals with minority representation really well, although not specifically atheism. Rust in True Detective wasn't a bad character or anything, and I could definitely appreciate his attitude towards religion a lot of the time, but his total disregard for absolutely everything did veer on the side of seeming a bit unrealistic and cringy at times (especially that scene with the two of them in the car). I agree that it would be interesting to see more atheist characters in other shows, though. It's definitely an issue that a lot of TV shows seem to avoid.
There's an interesting asterisk to notion of "English man on TV" being mundane, and that's when a White person successfully learns non-White languages and/or integrates into non-White cultures. There are UA-cam channels with hundreds of millions of views dedicated to "White guy shocks Asian people with his fluent [insert Asian language]!" Beyond UA-cam, it's a huge public selling point whenever a White person learns an Asian language, whether it's the former Prime Minister of Australia being fluent in Mandarin, or pro-wrestling superstar Kenny Omega being fluent in Japanese. And let us not forget the Last Samurai himself, Tom Cruise. On the other hand, it's not nearly as surprising or interesting when any non-White person speaks fluent English, French, etc. So in weird a way, White folks get the best of both worlds: they are so well-represented in popular culture that it's almost boring, and when they dip into cultures where they're not as well-represented, they are lavished with admiration.
I always seem to find that anti-Sargon videos have a whole heap of dislikes, but then when I go into the comments sections it's overwhelmingly positive. It's almost as if the Sargon fanboys downvote on instinct and then leave quickly before they're presented with a compelling argument against their lord and saviour...
To be fair (I'm not accusing Shaun of anything, it's more of a trend with the likes of Steve Shives) the comments by anti-SJWs get deleted and blacklisted so that comments sections appear uniformly in support of the video. That's why on massively unpopular videos that are huge anti-SJW talking points comments are often disabled entirely.
Eh, I'm ok with it. 99% of the comments are usually not enlightening either way. I'd rather see people agreeing, and what they say, than a complete debacle of an argument.
They're just going to complain that their freedom of speech is being taken away by "jewtube" beacuse they can't call someone the N word in the comment section
@@86Corvus i dont think OP meant that that little comment proved Shaun's point; theyre pointing out that they thought that point is funny. Calm it, lmao
@@Natalie-wr3iz what's even funnier, the londoner comment is about riz ahmed, not sargon. the apple doesn't fall far from the tree with these guys, it seems.
I disagree with the characterization of Sargon as ignorant rather than outright racist. He could have chosen to be ignorant about climate change, vaccines, the moon landing or any number of other topics. Instead he chose to be ignorant about people he doesn't understand.
@Aidan Collins Because as we all know, if you don't know 100% about everything then anything you do know is completely false and there's muh giant leftist conspiracy behind it all.
wait what trhe hell are you talking abut??? Sargon is ignorant about every single one of those topics as well as racism !! So i dont get your point at all
@@raidermaxx2324 Their point is that Sargon isn't ignorant, Sargon knows he's wrong and he knows the facts. He seems ignorant because he chooses not to acknowledge the facts, but he knows what's true and what isn't. He chooses not to care.
When he is complaining about Riz Ahmed, Sargon says he was born in Germany, and then complains about Riz being a coloniser, even though he was born in the UK. Is it just me who sees the irony there ?
I feel you. When people use European TotallyNotAtAllBiased(tm) entertainment tabloids as a proper source while screaming about fake news it's just a moment of cricket sounds for me.
Pumpkin Penguin *opens the box of sarcasm* What are you talking about? Bild is totally respectable and never sexist, racist or fake at all. Soll man jetzt weinen oder lachen?
Wow... Its crazy to think that... 3-4 years ago, I wouldn't have watched this vid, cuz I used to be a Sargon fan. I first thought he was a reasonable skeptic, until I saw his vid on Alexandria Cortez with Stalinist Communist imagery on the thumbnail, a clear attempt at hyperbolic fear mongering. I was already drifting away from his vids at that point, but that was the nail in the coffin.
maybe he was reasonable. i’m certainly not going to look through his back catalog of videos to find out, but it’s possible that he figured out what gets him the most views and ran with it.
For me it was the Trump videos that put me off. I really liked that he was showing the other side of stories that were trying to always put Trump in a negative light undeservingly. But then he became a true Trump supporter seemingly. Facepalm. Then the election fraud. It became obvious he has lost his integrity.
glad you were able to break away from that. my timeline is a little bit different but i would watch him pretty regularly as well in the 2014-2017 "UA-cam Skeptic" era...definitely not something i'm proud of. always made me very uncomfortable to see open white nationalists be the top commenters of his community and then the wider "bloodsports" community that popped up shortly thereafter... so glad i found better content to watch with a much more stable community.
lucca that is actually how you say that phrase. “Allahu akbar” it means god is great. The one thing in the video he got right and it was in the middle of a racist statement
The way Sargon smacks his lips, does that little chuckle, and finishes sentences with an emphatic finality makes me want to crush my own skull with a brick.
From now on, news should just be in video format, under five minutes long and delivered by an angry, British cartoon animal with weird views on race relations.
DDD033 trollololololol I live in an echo chamber it's lovely really helps me clear my own thoughts at least, you should come visit I need a good parrot to talk to I have birdseed and I'll make you a lovely perch to sit on ;) just lemme know
The irony of such an islamophobe using the ruler of an empire that today is part of several predominantly Muslim countries as their avatar is m a s s i v e
He manages to read the article for twenty minutes without actually reading it because he just reiterates the same point over and over again instead of being short and to the point. He'd be really frustrating to listen even if he weren't horribly wrong.
Kaja Miletic Zamalo da počnem da ga gledam kada mi ga je jedan, sada ekstremni desničar preporučio (još lik reče 'to ti je liberal'). Sada vidim koliku sam količinu sranja izbegao na svu sreću.
I can't believe I used to believe Sargon's rhetoric regarding the migrant crisis at the time. Back in high school I was so brainwashed that I would've avoided this video, and I sincerely envy the people who were able to leave the alt-right rabbit hole because of Shaun and managed to get out sooner. Thank you so much for making the stuff that you do, man. You have no idea how grateful I am.
the thing is, when you're young, you don't really have the life experience, or the know how to understand alot of this, I almost fell down the same rabbit hole, narrowly avoided it anyway good to see you got a better perspective on it now, anyway sorry for the 9 month late comment lol
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 Yep. The BILD is notoriously right-wing, anti-Immigrant and by far the least reliable mainstream newspaper in Germany. There's an official chart of how much fake news every newspaper prints, and the BILD leads it by a HUGE margin. The second most untrustworthy paper is from the same publisher as BILD, by the way.
"What offends Sargon is the suggestion that something needs to be done." That's the thing that I dislike most about the conservative ideology. They would rather keep everything the same, even when changes would not affect them at all but affect others positively.
they don't just not want others to have rights because theyre sadists, they're convinced that giving them rights or having to acknowledge their own privilege in even the most basic of ways would upset the simple, delicate balance that has supposedly kept the world going for generations and has been "working out fine for [straight white men] so far," so why try to change it up. they dont see or dont care about systematic inequality directed at outgroups, or the fact society has always, constantly been changing and the conservative utopia they dreamt of never actually existed. They want to shove their heads in the sand and pretend they can create the perfect world by outlawing LGBT people, abortion, etc. and sending all the minorities and "cultural marxists" back to some corner where they dont have to look at them, or worse, back to "wherever they came from" (and by this they mean where their ancestors came from, ignoring the irony white people in america are themselves immigrant colonizers of a now-minority race's home). It's as much a fantasy as the way they portray the left, except in this one they're closing their eyes and wishing away all the "weird people" they don't like or understand.
Robotnik898 Yeah, before they dislike, they should explain as to WHY they disagree, or try to refute the UA-camrs points in your comment, but if you just dislike and leave an Ad-Hominem comment, then you’re closed minded.
Oh my! I'm getting flashbacks to videos criticizing A-log (especially those from the user GeorgieBoyReturns) getting filled with comments calling the uploader a "Chris-Chan Sympathizer". Seriously, Sargon reminds me too much of A-log.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 A-log was a commentary channel that focused on geek culture. He became just as popular as Sargon in the late 2000s when he did his string of videos on Chris-Chan (the guy who created Sonichu). Many of his videos covering Chris-Chan were nothing but him nitpicking every single detail of Chris's vlogs and commenting on how he is so much better than Chris. He would constantly compare Chris's antics to Saddam Hussein's actions during the Gulf War and those of two teenaged boys who tortured and murdered a toddler. Many people found out that he was just as bad as Chris when a video of him going an anime convention in surfaced in 2008. He was acting very awkwardly and creepily around the cosplayers and booth owners. When that video got featured on many cringe compilations, the comments section would be filled with people defending everything A-log did and calling the uploader a "CWC sympathizer". When GeorgieBoyReturns mirrored A-log's videos, the comments section would be a battlefield between A-log's fans and the people who hated A-log. The term A-Logging is named after this user as he demonstrates a phenomenon called "Trollshielding", where someone would constantly hide behind an "anti-" movement in order to shield themselves from criticism. A-log made these Chris-Chan videos in order to mask his creepy behavior from the public. Sargon and many people within the Anti-SJW community fit this trollshielding definition like a glove as so many of them would deliberately take things out of context to be offended by, white-knight genuinely horrible people (like con artists and pedophiles) for giving their movement lip-service, get triggered over the slightest hint of criticism and have about as much attachment to reality as a five year old in a coma (just like the SJWs they complain about).
"Capitalism, it literally doesn't care" But you know what does care? Implementations of capitalism. Unregulated, it tends towards exponential power. Place that over a, say, a society that is historically sexist, and you get a system that exemplifies the biases of said system. It doesn't matter if the "capitalism" is unbiased, it clearly works to empower bias. It's a catalyst. It increases bias. It's just not the case that every business and entrepreneur starts fresh with clean-slate-capitalism, we all work off of currently established structures. Structures that already have their bias exemplified and encouraged.
Tbf though I’m a socialist I don’t understand how there can be anything inherently racist or sexist about capitalism. Obviously the systems are but only because of the country’s history
@@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 well think about it, doing the bare minimum while exploiting the lower class is the most effective means for money, capitalism will always tend toward this outcome because exploitation makes far more money like this, since they can reinforce shit laws and goad social infrastructure, while increasing the gap between the classes.
How to argue like Carl Benjamin Step 1: Skim the article without comprehension until you find one bit that offends your personal sensibilities. Step 2: EMPHATICALLY. CONTRADICT. WITHOUT. OFFERING. COUNTEREVIDENCE. Step 3: Repeat.
the capitalism sexism part was just peak sargon. not reading properly and then making one of the worst arguments ive ever heard against the original sentence
Nobody Lurker Good job brining political bias into here for no reason other to shit on the side you disagree with. To be real, a shit ton of people do this. Usually the stupid ones that get angrily triggered by the smallest shit, like Sargon for example. This isn't "mostly liberals." This goes for every side. The reason you think it is mostly liberals is because you watch a lot of videos depicting liberals as crazy and irrational, while only showing the crazy and irrational liberals. You never get shown the crazy and irrational people who's opinions are the same as your own with because that does not fit you and your group's narrative. But they exist. It's a fact. And there's a lot of them. So stop being ignorant and painting the groups you hate as irrational. You are likely as crazy and wrong as the people you think are crazy and wrong. Once you come to realize the hypocrisy, you can move on.
Shane Benjamson Mate, allow me to mansplain it. The sort heheheHAHAHAHAHA fake laughter you see with Sargon and his community is a characteristic trait. Sure you may find it other places, but it doesn't make up the majority like there. Just face it; the sceptic/liberalist community is the new atheism+
As a white New Zealander who grew up in the late eighties and nineties on UK and US TV (Because most New Zealand shows then were unwatchable) I can confirm that we absolutely noticed when New Zealand or a New Zealander was mentioned on TV. It’s just naturally exciting to see someone who looks or sounds like you on TV when 99.999% of people on TV don’t.
Canadians are exactly the same. (Canadians are on US TV all the time, but usually they are cosplaying Americans. A Canadian *character* on US or UK TV? Let's have a party!!) I'm also Jewish and I get unreasonably excited (and nitpicky) whenever I happen upon a storyline or character that is explicitly written as Jewish.
yeah, same as a white Irish person. i imagine it's the same anywhere foreign TV is more watched than local (as well as in cases where local populations are not represented on local TV, like that actor was talking about)
Kinda ironic that this Sargon dude names himself after a Middle Eastern personality, considering how he views Middle Easterners in general. Or does he think Sargon of Akkad was actually a European?
It's funny, since the real Sargon of Akkad was a ruthless authoritarian conqueror who razed city after city, laying waste to the land and carrying its people away into slavery.
Ok. New one... What's worse? Sargon or Nickelback and Saliva teaming up for one of the most annoying butt rock songs or all time for a spider man movie? I still go with Sargon. Butt rock is at least funny bad. Sargon is just... Bad...
@@GanguroKonata my god, must be a jewish producer making that video then forcing ous his feminazi values through those focking commies, THE GOVERMENT IS BEHIND IT!!!
As someone who likes many songs from Nickelback, I am deeply offended. But then again, everytime I see a joke on Nickelback it makes me laugh, just like this photograph.
Intellectual powerhouses like Sargon of Akkad won't watch more than one Sargon (five minutes) of a Leftist video as they'll be wasting time that could be spent on destroying the Left with supreme facts and ultimate knowledge.
I listen to the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters and used to listen to Sargon a lot, I did watch this whole video and Shaun is dead right. I have nothing to say in his defense in these cases. The "alt-right" media does have it's place, I really dislike I, Hypocrite but his documentary on grooming gangs in the UK was quite shocking and really showed how diversity politics can fuck people over, when cops turned a blind eye to predominately Middle Eastern/Asian grooming gangs in the UK and certain officers were literally told "go and find some white perpetrators" instead of investigating these gangs. Commentators like these guys are good for exposing things like that, or teachers trying to protect pedophiles, or people trying to push children into transition surgery. They lose me when they get into shit like this, or when they claim we need religion in our government, and certainly I have a massive fucking problem with talks of ethnostates and racial separation, which interestingly enough is an idea I hear from both far right and far left people now which scares me, because I think we really are better off together, many of the best people I know are first or second generation immigrants and my life would certainly be worse off without them around me.
I can't listen to this any more. You're absolutely right Shaun and Jen, but I just can't listen to Carl ranting about something he doesn't understand at all
For Sargon's thing at 26:55, some simple word replacement can go a long way there: "This is happening every day now. Somewhere in America a right-wing white guy commits a mass shooting. How long do you think people will put up with this, before deciding the problem is simply right-wing white dudes?"
I watch a lot of ancient history content, so when this popped up I was like “Yeah, of course he couldn’t. Reading cuneiform was a highly specialized skill known only to the scribal class and an imperial ruler like Sargon would have had no need of reading.” Then I saw that this was my politics corner not my history corner.
Irving Finkel fan? Me too!
I thought historical Sargon was a big deal intellectual in addition to his imperializing? Or am I confusing him with Cyrus the Great?
lol relatable
lol
@@TesterAnimal1 He's a hero
When Sargon called this video "This Week in Stupid" he was actually telling us what language he was translating into.
Man, do you have a link, I wanna see that
For such the translator he is, he doesn't make a good scribe.
"This Week, In Stupid"
Commas matter.
@@theshamanite What? He makes a great scribe for his native language of stupid, it's quite authentic really
@@fotnite_ he can be misleading, y'know, cause some weirdos out there think he's speaking in Smart
"It's 'You can't tell me what to do anymore, Mom,' but as a political position" remains one of the most prescient things I have ever heard.
Today, in the era of "you can't MAKE me stay home!" corona protesters, it proved to be downright prophetic.
@@Saibellus "Wear a mask to protect others" "But I don't WaNnA"
@@littlemoth4956 I saw a comment from a cashier who worked at a grocery store who said she's stopped asking people to wear masks after a lady turned and said "I don't give a damn about your health". Fuck these people man
Ah, you mean libertarian
@@noh-1386 poor cashier, she doesn't deserve that disrespect.
2,241 hate crimes in TWO WEEKS being considered "not really that many" was NOT a take I was expecting to see here, even from a guy like that
He wouldn't even get out of bed for less that 50k
He’d have been screaming at his camera for the police to do something if it was 2,241 crimes focused against whites or men.
@@funoff3207 I think we would all be more happy if he always just chose to stay in bed lol
And on top of that him pretending like he can decide what a hate crime is too 💀💀
Fun thing him picking 50k. Either that means that “over 2000 in two weeks should bother him” because generalized out to the year it is over 52,000, or it means he finds a crime rate that includes at least 1.3 million hate crimes against migrants in the UK, a country with a foreign born population of about 8 million based and a muslim population of less than 4 million, based on numbers I was able to dig up. And that is literally just… reported hatecrimes. That is… fucking horrifying.
“Capitalism isn’t sexist because of Pornography” is my new favourite right-wing argument.
It's very convincing.
@@notrod5341 If you don't think about the sexism.
@@alexsmith2910
Are you expecting sargon to?
@@educprof2160 Well, no shit. Despite what the leftist propagnda says, dominance and penetration have always been linked with masculinity, while the opposite was always associated with femininity. Just look at the ancient Greeks. They didn't frame sex as "straight" or "gay" (mainly because such mindset is an invention of the 19th century), but rather as “giving" or “receiving”. Unless you were a woman, it was looked down upon to enjoy submissiveness. As such, those who enjoyed “receiving” were stigmatized within the Athenian society and were kinaidoi (men who allowed other men to penetrate them). This was a degrading word, suggesting ancient Athens (the so-called open-minded Greek city-state of antiquity by leftist morons) wasn’t gay-friendly at all. In fact, Athens had laws that strictly frobsde what we define as homosexuality today. As for the rest of the ancient Greek city-states, they would be classified as “macho” societies nowadays, with Sparta being especially disapproving of men who engaged in homosexual activities. It was a general characteristic of these macho societies that being dominant (or “giving”) was noble, while being submissive (“receiving”) was the opposite. For a Corinthian or a Spartan male to deliberately choose a submissive sexual role, he was seen as a type of traitor, one who willfully accepted being ignoble for sexual pleasure
@@diaperdude6163 funny how you dont have proof that thats a leftwing argument.
I cannot BELIEVE that Sargon thinks the author is worried about the bots being harmed by the sexism rather than the bot users' behaviour being reinforced by the bots' responses
Moe Szyslak EXACTLY! Underrated comment
Moe Szyslak It's still concerning that we are starting to consider bots to be humans and think this to be acceptable.
Must control other's behaviour above all else after all is said and done. Reinforcing what exactly?
I honestly think that it doesn't even occur to him that it's a problem. Like considering that maybe the way people interact with these digital assistants normalizes the awful things they say to, y'know, real actual people, is so far outside his realm of consideration that he can't even be bothered to give it a passing thought.
@@BicycleSeatbelt That's correct, it takes a certain kind of control freak and moral busy body to think these issues are worth consideration.
I think part of what makes people like Sargon so disturbing is the avatars they choose for themselves. The picture he uses in front of his streams is a reflection of how he genuinely sees himself: a philosopher king sitting reclined and slightly bored on a throne of reason where he passes judgement on people who come to hear his wisdom. The level of ego and hubris is astonishing.
Which would be fine if he was smart and worthy of coming to for life advice but you know.... He's a fuckin dumb shit garbage person with compost for a soul and is the poser child for frog men sooo... It doesn't really work lol.
It reminds me of how Fred Fuchs of the Sons of Kojima fame used a Scarface avatar to make himself look like this "big guy that no one wants to mess with" when he would constantly "ghost" his way through social media and Skype conversations.
Unless he stated how he picked his avatar or you read his mind then... nice projection you got there. Not everyone picks hers/his avatar based on how (s)he identifies herself/himself. Based on my history of avatars I used to pick them based on my interests and usually they were nothing like how I see myself or who do I pick as my role model. What if he did the same? Picked something based on his interest years ago and it sticked. Just thing in analyzing other people is giving them benefit of the doubt if you dislike them (as people are biased against people they dislike). There is a number of legit points for which you can bash him. Making projections is not constructive but also makes you look bad if you look at it from the side lines.
*Starts a commune*
It disgusts me that a racist shit like carl uses the name of an ancient Mesopotamian (Iraqi) king as an alias
Sargon is the perfect embodiment of "this problem doesn't affect me personally so it's not really a problem"
While also ironically being "this non-problem doesn't affect me, so its absolutely a problem"
Yeah, Sargon's whole philosophy is "fuck you, I got mine... I'm a liberal btw." Listening to him debate is even worse - his brain can't operate outside of stereotypes (feminists hate men, communists are evil, capitalism is good) so he has a fundamental inability to understand arguments that don't already align with his beliefs.
@@lilstevechan8427 You yourself dont even understand what "far right" means, so thats hilarious. But thinking everybody else is stupid without being able to explain how is part of being stupid. Congratulations.
"I didn't run downstairs to see a British guy on TV" .......God, it's almost like you're..........represented
Austrumental EXACTLY! Underrated comment
Then whenever a group is represented it's "forced diversity"
Honestly I facepalmed when I heard that what an idiot
I am half Indian and have never felt a need to feel this "representaition" in goveernment, or on TV. I don't understand this feeling some people seem to crave to see someone with their same skin color staring back at them on a screen. As long as I feel someone somewhere believes some of what I do. Even then I don't need to see or even really know of that person, because I know I got my line of thinking from somewhere.
@@GarlicGrinder9 i think the reason people want representation is also largely because it can be used normalize a certain view of said demographic, as well as combat others. It's even useful to just make people aware of their presence and to humanize them.
“That’s not sexism, that’s just how things are.”
Aight, man. Whatever you say.
Moriah Miller “Segregation isn’t racist, it’s just how things are.”
😂😂👍🏻
@@kingrocky7519 "slavery? It's not racist. It's just how things are."
Also, "people using a female-sounding voice on these
@@rolfs2165 But here's the thing: if assistants only had male voices, feminists would be complaining that female voices wouldn't be represented. So is it better to have only male voices and leave female ones out of it, or to only have female voices to make them seem subservient?
"unlike you SJWs, ~I'm~ not offended at all and don't care: a novella"
Novella? More like a 700 page exhaustive essay that, in the end, says nothing.
2,200 hate crimes in a week is nothing to worry about. Any vaguely SJW news story definitely is.
Timothy McLean Only 6 a day? I don’t get out of bed for less than 100.
@@KmanB2525 lol there it is
@@KmanB2525 go back to the hole you crawled out of
Carl: "Capitalism isn't inherently sexist, here's an example of capitalism being inherently sexist to prove that."
Pretty much.
Capitalism is just a tool. Its not a system of oppressing women you white knight dimwits. As opposed to all other ideologies on the Left that quite literally almost oppresses everybody.
capitalism isn't inherently sexist, to be fair
@@cl8804 Correct. Capitalism is just a tool that allows for freedom of choice. Some women don't like the choices other women make, and use the end results of their choices to argue for inequality to benefit themselves. Its pretty sneaky.
@@tovsteh no, capitalism is an inherently oppressive system of power
shaun this video was the tipping point that rescued me from the anti-sjw spiral of hell and i just want to say thank you
suburben yobbo source?
@suburben yobbo What about the rest of his video? That one story doesn't mean that the rest of the *commentary* is moot and thus shaun is all you say...
@suburben yobbo True, that was inferred on my part. As shaun is a commentator, I would expect there to be critics. I don't just understand how he is bigoted, or a classist?
@suburben yobbo "Willing to throw the working class under the bus"
Such as...?
@suburben yobbo And he does this when exactly?
it's comforting to know that 2000 hate crimes is an insignificant number. Thanks, Sargon.
Define hate crime.
it's defined pretty well in your respective country's state, local or federal criminal code. try google.
@@AM-bo2ns very enlightening. Well as it is germany it seems, much like Britain, hate crime recording
can be quite nebulous. Here is an example taken from germany's OSCE data:
"2016-5 A Kingdom Hall was pelted with eggs"
Now that isn't to say that there isn't a range of seriousness in the category hate crime with some dispicable acts.
But as both Shaun and Carl are engaging in a political debate and are both British. I think Shaun was arguing in bad faith on this point.
@@SansAppellation Well. Here's my country's federal definition (Australia)
"unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person, or of some or all of the people in the group."
Hate crimes are another classification of crime. If someone punches me in a random fight, is that not different to someone punching me because of my race, religion, gender etc. A personal characteristic?
Thanks for the response, this was quite some time ago, but in response to you:
Difficult to say, I've had a stranger (step out from a group of lads) throw a random swing at me in broad daylight as I was walking down the road in Manchester, UK. We were both white.
I've seen what I assume was a group of Chinese friends in a comedy club in Sydney beat the shit out of another guy who was out with his girlfriend. Some people are just cunts unfortunately
I'm not sure legislating for what I think their reasons were is a particularly useful step into the future.
Is a group of white teenagers egging a church because they think it is funny and edgy, a hate crime?
What if it's a mosque?
"This is all so pointless!" - Sargon of Akkad
*wastes entire afternoon getting offended about said pointlessness* - Sargon of Akkad
Audrey K.
Criticising pointlessness doesn't make you pointless, because then you have a point.
At being pointless
The point is youtube revenue.
It wasn't pointless for him in a way... He was able to make a video to get views. Dude is a pile of shit lol.
Violet K. Getting offended? He usually just gets upset with the stupidity.
"I DON'T CARE," Sargon screams angrily while spending presumably hours recording, researching, and editing a video on said topic.
"Researching"
Sargon the kind of guy to send a $500 donation to a twitch streamer saying “show feet” and nothing else.
''N-nevermind... It's not like I care about you, b-baka article!!''
-Sargon, presumably
"researching" more like he finds an article with some buzzword in the headline or first couple sentences that he doesn't like, like "feminism," "patriarchy," "racist" etc, screenshots it, then starts filming himself screaming about how stupid the article is despite having taken some of it out of context
Generous of you to assume "research" was part of the process.
Did he seriously use prostitutes as an example of women's place in capitalism?
ignoring of course the history of male sexuality because what things weren't different in the past everything was like this always!
That is perhaps one way to interpret it (which is true; women (and men, although the market for women is larger) can be prostitutes), but I believe he's saying that women can get ahead in the workplace by exploiting the fact that men are constantly vying for their affection.
Kevin But if you follow that logic through to its conclusion, doesn't it suggest that the workplace is sexist anyway? Rather if women are able to get ahead in it by seducing men, that suggests that men have power and influence allready and the way women "get ahead" is by seeking their approval through sexual favours. I don't think this is actually the truth in most workplaces anymore, since thankfully women and men have far more equal footing than say, the 60s. But the argument of "women can get ahead by being sexy" only works when there are allready men in a position of power, and the act of doing sexual favours to gain approval only keeps this hierarchy in place. So if this is what Sargon genuinely thinks, that women have this tool of sexual attractiveness, then that thinking is deeply flawed.
TotallyCarbon of course men hold positions of power, but that doesn't mean that women can't also hold positions of power. By the same token, a man may be able to use his sexuality to get ahead in the workplace, but I doubt it would be as effective; especially with sexual harassment policies.
Dream Delirium in the case that you're suggesting I hold either of those anti-fem views, I do not. Those are rediculous strawmen. I would appreciate some criticism of ideas that I do hold, if you have some time to discuss.
I now fully understand why Richard Spencer said that Sargon was a "great entry point"
Yeah and now he obsessively talks about how sargon and liberals like him are stopping people from going alt-right
And with "great entry point" he means he's a real soft fuck toy
@@DrJReefer It means "god is greatest". In the car context I suppose it would be calling for protection from the accident.
William Gardner Thanking god for surviving. It’s used just as praise/thank god is in christian communities.
Actually muslims would more likely say alhamdulillah which is more akin to grateful to god if im right
Need to check
Sargon is that guy who writes a wall of text on a UA-cam video comment 15 seconds into the video.
He's literally done that. hbomberguy called him out on it in one of his videos.
hes just a typical neckbeard...worship logic but dont practice it
WobblyBits_X What video? I wanna see that lol
Syrup Sandwiches
I'm pretty sure it's this one. watch?v=rc24YtUslCU&feature=youtu.be&t=623
Didn't post the entire link because YT is weird with links and often deletes comments with them.
WobblyBits_X Whats the title? I can search it up since the link doesn't work.
Isn't it funny that Sargon constantly made fun of the myth of the patriarchy, yet, everything slightly feminist is part of a global anti-men conspiracy?
No wonder why he got ripped by the likes of Metokur and british media when he ran for office.
@FilthyDankWastemanFabuless We live inClown World. Him and Dankula did joined UKIP and postulated to represent their respective cities or whatever, Karl got chewed, spitted and then buried by media for being an edgelord, pretty much everything that Mister Metokur warned him that was gonna happen if he tried to do it, imagine wondering who this two goofs were and coming across a video of Dankula and Sargon saying _"Why did you made us do this Anita? We just want to play our games"_ I'm paraphrasing but they said something like that.
He did fucking what? 🤣
@@origrammar What you read. 😂 Indeed!
Both are somewhat true but his selectivity is not even remotely uncommon. Liberals ignore the prevalence of societal neglect, abuse, and exploitation of men as well as women receiving favor. However he laser focuses on these and forgets that there are places where women are treated the same as, or even less than a 7 year old boy. Weirdly enough opposing social claims are often both true if you account for more than 1 place exisitng
Really a false equivalence. Feminism talks about the harm that the patriarchy has to both men and women. Conservatives just use men’s pain in the patriarchy to hurt women - and everyone else too, but subjugating women is a goal.
22:34 Has Sargon never heard the story Whoopi Goldberg tells of seeing Nichelle Nichols on Star Trek as a child? "Mama! There's a black lady on television and she ain't no maid!" When you're not part of the majority, representation matters.
He's so distressed by one person being excited for being represented in media, he would go absolutely apeshit if he saw how excited Finns get collectively whenever Finland is mentioned in foreign media. Then again, most Finns are white, so I don't think he'd actually care at all :D
I'm a brown guy who has lived in a similar household to what Riz probably lived in. My mom and dad would always be happy seeing Indian/Pakistani actors on TV and movies because it showed that Hollywood and UK cinema as well as TV cared about them.
I for one was pretty happy seeing Riz Ahmed in Rogue One because, as a Pakistani who has lived in Britain for most of his life, I felt proud seeing someone like me on the big screen
Wild Card Bitches Yeehaw That would involve the far-right understanding cultural differences among ethnic groups. Which they tend to fail at, revealing their simplistic world view.
Well obviously Carl is part of the majority so he has never not be represented in British media. But that would't be a problem if Carl wasn't so hellbent on refusing to ever put himself in someone else's shoes.
I reckon he doesnt give a shit
"It doesn't matter you whiners!"
*proceeds to whine like a broken motor about it*
"It doesn't matter you whiners!" he whined in a whiny voice
Keep circle jerking guys
Brayden Mceneaney he says, not realizing that his beliefs are just as much of a circlejerk
He whined like a clapped out Cortina.
@@operator2855 oh don't worry we will just to make you seeth more
I can't believe I never noticed how he structured his arguments. No wonder the guy never sounded wrong, because he make his own question and answer it. I'm really glad I stopped watching and unsubscribed.
Me too
Congratulations, sincerely!
That's why he does poorly in actual debate with a real person. He tries to control conversation and panics when he cant.
I found some of things he talked about useful and interesting but I kept fact checking him which means I never actually believed any of his opinions. The ANIFA video was at least somewhat education if you ignore every other sentence or so.
Di Lung Move it Ya Fool!,
I believe Stefan Moleneux and Jordan Peterson work in this fashion too.
The way that Sargon reads an article is the same way Cinemasins watches a movie. They both pick out one small detail, come up with a criticism of that point, and include it even if that criticism is contradicted by the very thing they’re criticizing later on. Very funny
and his laugh is equally painful if not worse
Ha you're right
except at least cinemasins is mostly doing it for funsies and is not expected to be taken seriously and is AWARE he's not being taken seriously. Meanwhile this guys egos so high his avatar is literally Sargon of Akkad (probably)
It's almost as if CinemaSins isn't a movie critic, doesn't claim to be, and makes videos as a joke.
@@littlemoth4956 actually, he frames his videos as counting the sins of a movie equally, so some "sins" are perceived continuity issues that aren't actually there because he didn't understand the movie, some are simply jokes making fun of the movie, and others are valid criticisms, all being treated like the same metric. You can argue all day that because its jokes it shouldn't matter but that doesnt mean its not a piece of shit channel
The whole compilation of "I don't see how that's an issue at all" "seems like a total non-issue to me" sums up 200 years of conservative thought perfectly.
Perhaps a supercut of sargon claiming things are "pointless" and a "non-issue" is in order...
I cannot STAND the sound of Sargon talking. I was like "this is a good video with a charming voice for me to play in the background" and then we finally get to the part where he is talking, and his voice is booming and dripping with self importance, god. How do so many people stand to watch his videos?
Of all the many things I regret about being part of GamerGate, having to listen to Sargon's voice is possibly the thing I regret the most.
mstrblik 😂😂😂😂 you're definitely a sargoon
"How do so many people stand to watch his videos?"
Because they too are dripping with self importance.
Did you notice Sargon breathing and licking his lips? Its gross
Watch out mstrblik! Some SJW's are coming to oppress you. Better build a wall to hide behind!
Sargon: why do women and minorities need representation in media?
Also Sargon: how dare someone write an article that doesn't represent my interests!?
Do they need representation??? Why??? I mean that's life when you're a minority in a country dude... The progressive left once us to live under the tyranny of the minority now...fuck that and fuck you 😡
@@brandonbelongstocharlottef1798 Are you... arguing that minorities shouldn't be represented at all?
gosh, it's almost like sometimes the Right are the real snowflakes huh
@@brandonbelongstocharlottef1798 cry about it Hindu nationalist.
"Why do gay people want gay representation in shows and movies? Now there's no straight characters for me to relate to!"
This video didn't age well, because you gave Sargon the benefit of the doubt that he was stupid and not just out right racist, and now we know it's both.
i love Shauns videos but i think he’s a bit too nice to carlgon of swidge here
No he's not, leftist.
Please explain how sargon is racist ? To say everyone is the same and should be treated alike is racist ?
@@tomdoyle6030 Maybe if you weren't poisoning the well, I would, but it's obvious you're asking such a ludicrous question in such an absurd way because you don't care how the guy who thinks that black people are predisposed to criminal activity. Yeah, he's totally not a racist, he thinks everyone should be treated equally, even the bad kind of people.
Revisit these dark days with the new 106-minute documentary on Sargon, MRAs, and GamerGate: YT search for "Munted, Random"
My absolutely favorite thing is leftist youtubers casually calling Sargon ‘Carl’
I like the occasional "carlgon", its so stupid it almost properly represents him
@@leaffinite2001 Carlgon of Applebees
@@leaffinite2001 washing machines live longer with Carlgon.
There are countless of better nicknames for that big brained individual, such as the Stepfather, Quadroon of Akkad, Sargoy al Applebees, the Soyfather of Swindon or (my personal favorite) Sarg'n of Blackdad
Soygon of Cuckad
15:30 Did.....did he actually really just say that capitalism isn't sexist because it objectifies women??
Yep ...
I can't even-
not sexist mate, it's just what they do /s
"lol wdym capitalism is sexist? Women can just sell their bodies to men with money."
I think he was actually defending the _exploitation_ of women as a defense of capitalism (which is even worse).
You apologizing for getting so "worked up" is the most British thing I've ever heard and I love it.
Sargon: *reads an article about smart assistants and goes through the roof, tells people to go to the gas chambers, etc.*
Shaun: *only raises his voice slightly after enduring half an hour of racist bullshit and still apologises for it*
Seriously, how is this man so calm all the time?
Because is so full of soy he forgot how to be masculine
i bet he records this in a room with stuffed toys for sound suppression. Both great sound quality and a way to cope
@@levar6618 I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not
@@stubbwinkley4015 precisely
@@shanekhan6492 Wow, sounds like your kind of man is…pretty weak. That’s kind of pathetic actually. I can’t think of a weaker kind of boy than someone who is so unable to handle anything negative that they freak out and lose control of their anger.
Please forgive my ignorance. I thought this was going to be a history video on how new discoveries imply that a famous historical figure was in fact illiterate...I feel less smart...
blame the person claiming the name of a historical figure instead of yourself :)
Literally same
@@oatmealcoloured9950 Yeah it's not your fault, it's the fault of the dipshit who sought to make himself seem like an intellectual by picking a name off wikipedia.
I know this is a bit late, but Charlemagne was illiterate, for an interesting reason too. He hadn't learned to read in his youth because the quality of Frankish script was so illegible, that modern scholars who have studied it for years still have to trace their fingers around the path of each letter. It was that bad.
One of the crowning achievements of Charlemagne's rule was the Carolingian Renaissance, a resurgence of art, literature, and theological study. Part of this brief Renaissance was the development and introduction of Carolingian Script, lettering that far more resembles the standardized Latin characters we use today.
P. S. I didn't want to leave you without a famous illiterate historical figure, so here you are.
@@andrewmulhearn1234 Thank you, man
Sargon is proof that people with British accents don’t always sound smart.
Frieza Force true 🤣
@Frieza Force isn’t that.... racist?
@Frieza Force yes
I'm going to be honest: I legit suspect that Sargon's accent is part of the reason anyone takes him seriously. I don't know where in the UK it originates, but Sargon has the specific type of regional English accent that's usually associated with intellectual characters in TV and film, and I think that leads some people to subconsciously assume he's "smart" despite the tenuous veracity of his statements.
I have no hard evidence or anything, it's just a suspicion.
Stephen Fry sounds smart, Carl Benjamin doesn't, only smug and condescending.
Sargon: Pounds his fist on his desk when his own child is sleeping in his house (he said he records all his videos at night).
Shaun: Whispers so he dosen't wake up someone else's child.
Shaun confirmed goodboy.
That's very sweet about Shaun. Sargon sounds like a psychopath to me.
Sargon has a child?
@@MisterAppleEsq oh that poor child
+@@totiny3262 Right?
Carl has a child?... AS IN A WOMAN FOUND HIM ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH TO SLEEP WITH?! she must have used earplugs while they were fucking
Honestly, as a German, when someone says "there's someone for the gas chambers" you can skip all other arguments. That case is closed.
seriously that shit is sickening
Agreed m8
OH GOD I NEARLY MISREAD THAT AS "there's a case for the chambers" h bgmd gebgsgmhvbbvsgyv sytvsyt csuyfc s 😭😭😭😭😭
As a sane person, I feel the same about anyone who doesn't treat an article about AI assistants being "female servants" and responding to amusing "abuse" dismissively as hilarious feminist propaganda.
But everyone is different. Some people are triggered by "offensive" words, some people are triggered by offensive ideas.
@@heldinahtmlhell I would consider the words "here's one for the fucking gas chambers" to be beyond offensive, but maybe that's just me.
It‘s funny that Sargon took the name of a person he'd probably hate to see in the west nowadays.
PyroNexus22 lol i never thought about that
it is purely about idealism, for sargon cause akkad is the ideal he cannot reach it.
+SpamQGamers "it is purely about idealism, for sargon cause akkad is the ideal he cannot reach it."
Given that we know almost nothing about the historical Sargon (we don't even know where Akkad was) beyond his having created an empire and being the subject of the first recorded historical parallel, I'm not sure what that 'ideal' could even be.
Sargon was probably Aryan in his head canon.
That's kind of the point though, isn't it? As a blank slate, Carlgon can project any ideals he'd like on Sargon.
What's up I'm Carl Benjamin I'm 38 years old and I never fuckin learned how to read
I love this generation and it's literary memes.
Lmao imagine being 38 yrs old an complaining abt what some journalist thinks abt alexa
shaka when the walls fell
He's that old and he still sounds like a bitter 15 year old edgelord?
Well damn, Carl. DAMN.
I have been subscribed to Sargon for around 2 years and have been something of a fan of his, but lately I've been growing increasingly disillusioned with him. Thank you for making this video.
Hey man, glad to hear it! I used to be pretty into him and some others during gamergate, and got kinda anti-feminist at that point. Since then I've read up on it and learned a lot more and it's all pretty reasonable and understandable, even things Sargon and others scoff at. Things like the patriarchy, you know? Keep questioning things and try to do your own research!. It sounds like you're doing well at that already though :)
Always follow the words "but is this really the case? " by TIK. Always question everything even people like sargon, question everything
"lately"? Please provide a link to one of the well-done, rational videos from the good old days. I dare you.
@@davidhinkley Hey hey, don't discourage people like that. That's what sets people on the defence and makes them stop wanting to pay attention to the arguments the opposite side makes.
@@contentfreecornucopia499 True, Sargon lost his touch with reality the more he made videos. He went from someone complaining about people on social media to this paranoic conspiracy and constantly refering to this ominous "they".
I still think the idea of the patriarchy is pretty dumb, tho. Care the elaborate why you think is true?
The sexual harrassment article was thoughtfully written and an interesting topic. Of course Carl just brushes it off like a whiny little child.
To be fair. The way Shaun describe it first, it sounded like the writter wanted that Cortana or Siri gave a lecture on why harassment is bad, which does sound kinda dumb, although, he clarifies later that it is more broader and intelligent than that.
@@spark154 The writer is smart in my opinion, he got his article to be read on multiple youtube channels. The first few lines and headlines got the job done.
@@spark154 You know this information is accessible, _if you read the article_
@@MM-vs2et Even if you do read the article, it doesn't change the fact that the headline is intentionally and purposely contentious, and the introductory paragraph is plain inflammatory and misleading (Assistant bots are not women in any way, digital or otherwise. And ALL of them have a male version, a fact that is completely ignored). Shaun tries to chalk it up to the writer's attempt to engage more readers, which is a very lame excuse. By the same token we can call the worst of tabloids "good journalism". There are similar issues with the content of the article. To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying that Shaun is completely wrong. The article does have its merits. Still, it clearly has gaps a rabid antifeminist like Sargon can latch onto.
@@TinyShaman I think that's what outlined here though? Shaun and everyone here was pretty clear that it was interesting for the most part, not that it was world changing exactly just well done at grabbing people. It's no different from saying that Fox and The Sun are good at grabbing people's attention and fear-mongering, though I 100% you're take on the fact that the article*is* being praised to a higher extent than it's counterparts would. And not for good reason.
Honestly nothing he says at this point should surprise me, but I gasped when he said "There's one for the gas chambers." I think he revealed everything anyone needs to know about him right then. What a disgusting individual.
The moment you make reference to the holocaust in a positive way is the moment everyone knows what you're about and that is the point at which every audience member needs to lay their cards on the table. If you direct someone to him saying that and they still support him, there's no more room for the excuse that they might be misinformed and believe he is a legitimate figure.
And he's in politics now! YAAAaaaayyyy.......
@SpursFan214 joking about this sort of thing is actually a method to get people comfortable with the idea. There is a lot more too it, but if you find someone joking about the holocaust, you are probably not far from someone who denies it ever happened or was that bad or even a bad thing.
I just took it as a joke... But I guess I am in the minority finding offensive humor funny.
@@Michael_Paul585 No, denying it outright is worse, you can easily rewrite history to the point of non-existant, case in point current day Germany where Merkel who is trying to rewrite history that the Nazi's do not exist (There is no reason to accept 1 million refugees without any structure behind it except to say well we aren't Nazis.) . At least joking about it reinforces that the actual event actually happened, even it's in bad taste but then how many years do we need before we can joke about it? 1000 years? Wait till it's erased from history before we can joke about it until the event repeats itself? Yet it's ok to make fun of America and it's school shootings behind everyone's back and it's acceptable even though it's happening weekly? Hypocrisy happens everywhere.
And your misreading what he said, the stance that Carl says he's centralist not right-leaning.
Bloody hell, this video is at least 7 Sargons long
That's 7 Sargon's too many, lol
I'm not sure how long a Sargon is, but do you realise you basically said this video should be 0 units of Sargon in length?
@@SireSquish. Haha, that's not what I meant, though. I more or less was meaning to say that Sargon is too much, so the video should just be it's own length of time, rather than being timed by Sargon. When I thought it in my head, it seemed funnier.
@@SireSquish I believe à sargon is 5 minutes long, as sargon one time complained that a counter video to one of his videos was too long when it didn't say everything in 5 minutes
41% spike in hate crimes is apparently insignificant and inconsequential.... imagine if someone said ANY other crime went up by 41%, how could that, by ANY measure be inconsequential. You cant just cast aside an increase that drastic because you dont view it as "proper crime".
If I remember correctly Sargon made a video on how Liberal controlled London had around a 10% rise in crime and that therefore the Liberals were allowing London to turn into a war zone. He’s also a few times said the UK should “rent out” the American police to deal with the increase in crime in some cities in the UK.
"Assault and harrassment up 41%"
That headline would suddenly have folks listening. But the instant they think it's soley towards migrants and it's a different story...
Hate crimes are equal to playground insults, grow a pair
Imagine if crime among minorities had a significant increase. Every right winger would instantly have the biggest orgasm they've had in their life
+Random Some Guy I’m guessing you’re the type of person who thinks he is entitled to yell obscenities at minorities, for fun.
Shaun: 'He's British. He's a Londoner, which is a shame-"
Me, a northerner: 'I felt that."
Shaun himself is Northerner. Liverpool, specifically.
Liverpool is midlandŝ
Sargon "Nazis deserve a platform but Social Justice courses must be banned" of Akkad.
Natsume Natsume oh please, that one isn't true. He says the opposite a lot
+O. Kroeker What part isn't true? He set up a petition to get social justice courses removed from universities, did he not? It was a couple years ago so I may not be remembering correctly.
TheArchsage74 i looked up the petition, it was to suspend, not remove, social justice courses to have them evaluated for any openly bigoted, non-scientific, non-fact based lessons in the course and have that corrected. I'm not too sure how prevalent of an issue that is, but I don't disagree on that point, if there is actual bigotry and mis-information being taught to students I'd want that to be corrected, especially considering how much debt a student racks up attending college, they deserve to get the best education for their money.
Well, giving political views a platform is one thing, shoving them down students throats the other. Just like Sargon was comparing two different things with the refugee and migrant stuff, you are comparing too different things in your comment.
That's a false equivalency though, isn't it? Sargon is not saying university students being taught to analyze the universe through the lens of Nazism is fine.
20:26
He's a centrist only if you use the foot-in-the-door method; That is, he's the center between madness and utter madness.
Did i just heard... *CENTRIST?*
He is not centrist, by the way, the US have no left, this make you center be the non nazi right. You left is right center.
@@danielsantos-wh2op They exist they're just not represented for the reason you stated.
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2000 hate crimes is still 2000 too many. How can someone not understand that?
That's also only within 2 weeks, meaning that over a year that's 50,000 which is fucking massive
My mom is like this. Shes anti mask and when I informed her there has been 200000 deaths from covid in America, she replied that's a small percentage as a hole
@@rebeccatyler7404 It's actually 250K deaths which is only 700 deaths per million. So your mom is correct.
@@chrisf9377 The problem is not the deaths, it is the consequences of serious infections (about 20% of infections), where mental illness, reduced intelligence and worse lung capacity have been noted.
@@jamesoconnor8985 And the really minor inconvenience it is to wear a mask...
“It was obviously a joke. She’s not a real person! Where’s the harm?!”
- Sargon, defending himself in court while on trial for sexual assault; circa 2023
We’re here now, let’s wait and see 😂
I like how Carl is like: "If these were people in my community, I'd be calling them in."
So, how many white nationalist terrorists who have cited him as a fan has Carl called in?
Those are lone wolfs, silly. Sure they have the same skin color, typically have the same religious affiliations, the same beliefs and the same motivations, but they’re all COMPLETELY unrelated to him and everything he stands for.... whatever that is.
@@aarishowton8037 And besides, he already criticized a bunch of them, but do you really expect him to do it for each new one that comes up? I mean, obviously he doesn't support it, why would you expect him to...wait hang on here
What white nationalist terrorists?
@@yoyo-lf3ld the ones that kill people
@@literallyglados where?
You may have just saved my sanity with this upload. You've managed to articulate perfectly all the issues I have with these sorts. Armoured Skeptic is bad enough but at least he isn't chucking out lines of Greek philosophy to mask what are basically taxi driver rants.
What really sucks about Armoured Skeptic is the fact that it seems like he could be won over and see the error of his ways, but he just refuses to step outside of his limited viewpoints.
Sean Locke or its "shtick" for teh algorythms
Anti-sjw money is too good to pass up. When pro social justice leftist videos become the new "in" thing that I think it will be, then I can promise you that people like chris ray gun will change their tune.
Sean Locke I used to like his stuff, like his flat Earth vids.
I have to ask, what's wrong with Armoured Skeptic? I dislike Sargon as much as the next man, but I generally agree with what Greg has to say. He's slipped up a couple of times with a couple of poorly thought out videos but he's only human, as a whole I found his content quality to be fairly high.
Also what anti-SJW money? It's not the anti-SJWs who are addressing the United Nations or anything. In the wider world anti-SJWs are usually written off, whether for better or for worse.
Stalin once said ''a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic'', im sure sargon takes that to heart.
doomer That is true though.
@GG Allin no shit
He didn't say that, that's a fake quote
Sargon downplaying 2,000+ hate crimes in a couple weeks was fascinating.
He's confident it'll never happen to *him,* so it's fine in his world.
I followed Sargon for a while until I saw how mean-spirited he was, and how he didn't bother to research things properly.
Thanks for taking the time to debunk him and his ilk.
I watched 2 videos of him initially and though, 'Hey! This guy is fresh.. didnt take long for me to figure him out.... shame it takes longer for people to figure out the likes of Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, and that lott.'
"He's a Londoner, which, is a shame" classic.
That one got me too, brilliant banter
Your compass speaks for itself.
Is there some sort of inter british rivalry that i should know like irish vs welsh and etc?
I think Shaun has a Northern accent(I'm not great with accents), which is different from a London accent, and it's a general rivalry thing.
Apparently accent is everything
"2000 hate crimes? thats not even that many!" god i feel sick to my stomach
remind me how many people acctually died from "hate" attack ?
@@gediminaspuskorius1195 You don't have to be a killer to hurt people. And wanting to hurt people in general is a pretty shitty thing to do, if you ask me.
@@gediminaspuskorius1195 So just because some people might not die of a hate crime but get injured it is not that much of a problem? I mean with that logic rape is just stupid as it is not that normal for people to die in rapes
once again. injured by what? you get injured when someone tells you that you are delusional ? i mean by your logic if the doctor tells that patient has cancer he is commiting hate crime against patient? or simply stating the truth? its not what you like to hear but thats just how it is.
@@gediminaspuskorius1195 No where saying your patient has cancer can be considered a hate crime.
sargon's argument about how women can "take advantage of capitalism" by selling their bodies actually made me physically sick, and reminded me once again how sexist our current society is, without us even realizing it! Thanks, sargon!
Prostitution is one of the worlds oldest professions. He merely made that point, he did not encourage anyone to do so but that they are free to do so. But again the modern Leftists let their emotions and the act of offending themselves get in the way of a factual argument.
@@tovsteh its his failure to point out how sickening that is that's the problem. surely you can agree that we shouldn't live in a society that supports women so little that they must sell themselves online to make ends meet.
Sex workers are sickening? Or is it the suggestion of sex workers that is sickening?
@@dirtydeeds4free553 only to these moralists, who probably pay for sex themselves.
@@tovsteh why are you slinging adhoms?
'capitalism isnt sexist because of sexism' is basically what im hearing
Sargon: I do not see a point to this.
Sargon: Therefore there is no point to this, as I am the arbiter of all points.
Sargon: I must therefore make a video about how there is no point, such that the evil feminists know they are not allowed to consider there a point to this.
Sargon: Genius.
You forgot a "fuck off" somewhere.
Lmao
@adam riddle you think all leftists agree with each other? you must be new here...
This comment is criminally underrated
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I'm so glad there's a UA-camr like Shaun. He's never angry or bombastic, always calm and just giving information or explaining. Never making personal quips to degrade a point and actually cares about statistics and also understands so well how essily statistics can be misleading.
Got me out of the alt-right rabbit hole. Thank you.
And I still come back to these videos just for background noise to listen to while doing other stuff in general.
I'm glad that you got out. One shouldn't underestimate the temptation of the alt-right.
So many people complain about him being too monotone but I prefer this to the usual loud screeches and unnecessary insults of the anti sjw and right wing UA-camrs
Got you into the alt-left rabbit hole.
@@MrCmon113 I'll let you into my alt-left rabbit hole 😘
How do you hear that someone was exited to see a person like them on TV and not realise "Wow maybe representation has a positive effect on young people and even adults in minority demographics.". Like I remember reading about a similar thing, I think it was something Whoopi Goldberg said about when she first saw Uhura on Star Trek wen she was a wee girl, she was enthused that she was seeing a black woman on TV who had a job on a star ship. Like I can't imagine my reaction to that being "Oh how weird why would you do that? I didn't get exited about Nurse Chapel!" because OBVIOUSLY I wouldn't, because I'm white I see people who're white on TV all the time, the point is she reacted that way because it was something she wasn't used to and thus it was exciting. I was quite moved by the quote. It should remind you that something you may previously have taken for granted is not true for everyone, and hopefully reinforce that there's actually a real and identifiable problem here. Christ.
"Mama! There's a black lady on tv and she aint no maid!"
Still sticks with me to this day.
Easy. You do it by being a self-absorbed moron, as Carl handily demonstrates.
22:35 Yeah, Carl completely misses it, it's bizarre. But I mainly wanted to add this comment to say you are remembering correctly! Whoopi Goldberg is known for her response to seeing Nichelle Nichols as Uhura on Star Trek.
> "When she was a little girl, Goldberg was a big Star Trek fan, because in the 1960s roles for African-Americans on television were scarce and often inconsequential - with Star Trek being an exception. On the U.S.S. Enterprise, the presence of Uhura on the Bridge crew connected with the young Goldberg, and her lifelong love of Star Trek had begun. "Well, when I was nine years old Star Trek came on," Goldberg says. "I looked at it and I went screaming through the house, 'Come here, mum, everybody, come quick, come quick, there's a black lady on television and she ain't no maid!' I knew right then and there I could be anything I wanted to be."
*Link:* www.startrek.com/database_article/goldberg-whoopi
AND Martin Luther King Jr. himself was a huge fan of Uhura! He famously convinced Nichols not to leave the show, when she was considering it.
*Story:*
> On Star Trek, Nichols was one of the first Black women featured in a major television series. Her prominent supporting role as a bridge officer was unprecedented. Nichols was once tempted to leave the series; however, a conversation with Martin Luther King Jr. changed her mind. Towards the end of the first season, Nichols was given the opportunity to take a role on Broadway. She preferred the stage to the television studio, so she decided to take the role. Nichols went to Roddenberry's office, told him that she planned to leave, and handed him her resignation letter. Roddenberry tried to convince Nichols to stay but to no avail, so he told her to take the weekend off and if she still felt that she should leave then he would give her his blessing. That weekend, Nichols attended a banquet that was being run by the NAACP, where she was informed that a fan really wanted to meet her.
*Nichols quote:*
> I thought it was a Trekkie, and so I said, 'Sure.' I looked across the room and whoever the fan was had to wait because there was Dr. Martin Luther King walking towards me with this big grin on his face. He reached out to me and said, 'Yes, Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan.' He said that Star Trek was the only show that he, and his wife Coretta, would allow their three little children to stay up and watch. [She told King about her plans to leave the series because she wanted to take a role that was tied to Broadway.] I never got to tell him why, because he said, 'you cannot, you cannot...for the first time on television, we will be seen as we should be seen every day, as intelligent, quality, beautiful, people who can sing dance, and can go to space, who are professors, lawyers." Dr. King Jr went further stating "If you leave, that door can be closed because your role is not a black role, and is not a female role; he can fill it with anybody even an alien."
*Link:* en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichelle_Nichols
*Link to video where Nichols tells the story herself:* ua-cam.com/video/pSq_UIuxba8/v-deo.html
My Ego is so low, my avatar on UA-cam is an ancient mythological man, supposedly lookalike with me, dressed in shiny golden robes, sitting in a shiny golden throne.
I argue the opposite.
That he has a high opinion of himself. That he sees himself as a King amongst men.
(I have no idea if the actual Sargon was a 'King')
+franco carrizo sparosvich Here’s the thing: We don’t know what the real Sargon of Akkad looked like.
No surviving confirmed depiction of him exists. The bronze mask that Carl uses as his avatar is more likely a depiction of Sargon’s grandson: Naram-Sin.
Where did I get this information from? Wikipedia... the same place Carl ripped his avatar from: The first image in the “Sargon of Akkad” Wikipedia article... that says the mask probably isn’t of Sargon of Akkad...
@@cosmicjenny4508 he can't read he just saw a shiny mask
I like how the image he picked has no eyes. He inadvertently got his inability to read stuff actually put into the avatar he uses.
@@cosmicjenny4508 Akkad was in the middle east, modern day Iraq.
Why do people think it's "rational" to ignore context and supplementary information not immediately extant? Like, why on Earth would you think a headline is going to give you the full story? Why would we have articles at all if that were the case?
That's literally the opposite of rational thinking. Context and explanation are necessary for critical thinking. Reacting immediately to something you don't understand is literally not rational thinking. And you know what, if that's how you behave, fine, I guess. React to things without thinking. Just don't call yourself rational at the same time.
Oh dear, I need to calm down.
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As an ancient history nerd I blame this guy for ruining my google results
lmao. History major here, i can relate.
I always found it so confusing that someone as clearly bigoted as Carl would choose an Assyrian ruler as his online avatar?
Although I do genuinly thank the guy for getting me interested in the historical figure, this was years ago during his earliest youtube schpeels!
@@zakbrown9256 Especially just a regular everyday English guy :sob: its kinda funny. Not claiming he is stealing the image of a race not his own, I know he can have a genuine interest in the figure, it just makes me giggle.
You made me realise just how wrong Sargon is, thanks for making me realise how easy it is for him to twist an articles words.
I'm sorry but I genuinely thought this was a 36 minute video of you roasting the actual historical King Sargon of Akaad, and I thought, "Ok, sounds interesting."
The historical Sargon of Akkad was pretty lit though
The historical Archduke Franz Ferdinand was meh imo
You deserve so much praise for standing up against all these gamerbros in a time when you guys were so intensely attacked and harassed for it. You have genuinely done so much to stop these young men from being manipulated and harmed, and been a great ally for our respective communities and I am very thankful for the work you’ve done.
totally agree
you people in comments exaggerate so much. words on a comment section aren't "intense attacks"
@@john_smith_john
Doxing and death threats are
@@john_smith_john Do you not remember what UA-cam in 2016/2017 was like? There were so many "anti-SJW" channels (e.g. Leafy) who would basically just attack and insult "SJWs" and encourage their fanbases to do the same
@@john_smith_johnNo. You downplay reality. Fake accusations, death threats and doxing are "just words" yet also criminal offenses. A lot of these loser magnets also flocked to other platforms after they were rightfully banned, so things are obviously different nowadays.
In regards to the "running down stairs to see an English man on tv" thing, the first time I saw an lgbt character on tv I stopped what I was doing and watched the whole episode with child like wonder. I had never seen someone like myself on tv and even though I'd never watched the show or even knew what show it was i sat through the entire episode, even turning off my phone, (something I pretty much never to while watching tv due to a really short attention span). It's almost like when you are constantly represented it becomes mundane and you no longer get excited to finally see yourself reflected well in media. But hey maybe I am just a stupid overly triggered sjw for wanting to see lgbt or diverse characters????
This is partly what the word privilege basically explains. It's how much for granted one takes some things which to others might be significant and rare. And when one is in the position of privilege one doesn't even take notice of it, so when others mention it you see them rolling their eyes and calling people snowflakes and triggered and hyperbolic. They think 'privilege' means that they're being accused of being like I don't know, wealthy, pampered people with no worries in life, which obviously if you assume that, then it sounds absurd. But they're just missing the point entirely.
I mean I'm a straight white guy, I obviously haven't experienced what you're describing in terms of sexuality or race, but thinking about it, there is one aspect where it has happened. Seeing a legit atheist character on TV or film, who isn't just the usual "I don't know, I used to believe, I'm not sure", you know the usual portrayal of someone "lost" who's suffering and has lost faith, but in the end finds it again. You know, that crap. I mean a real atheist, and who isn't portrayed as a villain and/or psychopath. A rare one I can think of is Mcconaughey's character in True Detective. And even he was a depressed alcoholic or something.
But you see it all the time, everyone is more or less religious, it's always the assumption, the default.
And I found it interesting how surprising it felt to see one on screen. Now, this isn't the same, but I think there is a common ground there. In any case, with some empathy one could easily understand what it feels like and what that privilege is. But Sargon is completely void of empathy, so obviously he can't get it.
@@notquitemytempo1353 Rust from True Detective isn't that great of an example of atheist representation in media anyway. I mean, he *(spoiler alert)* is an edgelord supreme who became an insufferable nihilist after the death of his daughter. He then relearns the value of life after a having a quasi-religious epiphany following a near-death experience. *(end spoiler)*
True Detective season 1 was great, but Rust's portrayal hardly flies in the face of the typical atheist stereotype, does it?
@@ScoopMeisterGeneral Well, more to my point of how rare or almost non-existent such characters are I guess. How rare for the character to be a normal person it is. But I was remembering that scene where he's mocking the dimwit religious people on that tent with the leader who's spewing the usual nonsense and they're giving their money. You know, you hardly ever see a character openly, un-apologetically mock religion like that on TV or movies.
I vaguely remember an episode from like a black sitcom I think where someone's boyfriend is an atheist and they bring them for dinner or something and the conversation gets to religion. And he's painted horribly by the script. He might as well had said he was a pedophile, he'd get a better reaction from them. She actually ends up breaking up with him cause he doesn't believe in god.
Just curious, can you mention any such atheist characters? I'd like to know which shows or movies feature them, maybe they're worth seeing. Thanks
@@notquitemytempo1353 I don't watch a whole lot of TV, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. But I will say that as with all forms of representation in media (gender, race, sexuality, whatever), the best way to write an atheist character is just to treat them like a normal person without making them into a stereotype. That doesn't mean you have to ignore or downplay the issues related to that person's identity, but you also shouldn't make it so their identity forms their _entire character._ It can be a pretty difficult line to walk. Brooklyn 99 comes to mind as a show that deals with minority representation really well, although not specifically atheism.
Rust in True Detective wasn't a bad character or anything, and I could definitely appreciate his attitude towards religion a lot of the time, but his total disregard for absolutely everything did veer on the side of seeming a bit unrealistic and cringy at times (especially that scene with the two of them in the car).
I agree that it would be interesting to see more atheist characters in other shows, though. It's definitely an issue that a lot of TV shows seem to avoid.
There's an interesting asterisk to notion of "English man on TV" being mundane, and that's when a White person successfully learns non-White languages and/or integrates into non-White cultures. There are UA-cam channels with hundreds of millions of views dedicated to "White guy shocks Asian people with his fluent [insert Asian language]!" Beyond UA-cam, it's a huge public selling point whenever a White person learns an Asian language, whether it's the former Prime Minister of Australia being fluent in Mandarin, or pro-wrestling superstar Kenny Omega being fluent in Japanese. And let us not forget the Last Samurai himself, Tom Cruise.
On the other hand, it's not nearly as surprising or interesting when any non-White person speaks fluent English, French, etc. So in weird a way, White folks get the best of both worlds: they are so well-represented in popular culture that it's almost boring, and when they dip into cultures where they're not as well-represented, they are lavished with admiration.
I always seem to find that anti-Sargon videos have a whole heap of dislikes, but then when I go into the comments sections it's overwhelmingly positive. It's almost as if the Sargon fanboys downvote on instinct and then leave quickly before they're presented with a compelling argument against their lord and saviour...
If they _do_ comment, usually it's just to drop a few "cucks" and "SJWs" into the conversation.
To be fair (I'm not accusing Shaun of anything, it's more of a trend with the likes of Steve Shives) the comments by anti-SJWs get deleted and blacklisted so that comments sections appear uniformly in support of the video. That's why on massively unpopular videos that are huge anti-SJW talking points comments are often disabled entirely.
Eh, I'm ok with it. 99% of the comments are usually not enlightening either way. I'd rather see people agreeing, and what they say, than a complete debacle of an argument.
They're just going to complain that their freedom of speech is being taken away by "jewtube" beacuse they can't call someone the N word in the comment section
"He's a Londoner, which is a shame"
That made the video
Yea, cause invectives is what makes the argument, not the actual merit.
@@86Corvus did you watch the video or are you like sargon
@@86Corvus i dont think OP meant that that little comment proved Shaun's point; theyre pointing out that they thought that point is funny. Calm it, lmao
@@Natalie-wr3iz what's even funnier, the londoner comment is about riz ahmed, not sargon.
the apple doesn't fall far from the tree with these guys, it seems.
@@maivaiva1412 oh lol, even better!
I disagree with the characterization of Sargon as ignorant rather than outright racist. He could have chosen to be ignorant about climate change, vaccines, the moon landing or any number of other topics. Instead he chose to be ignorant about people he doesn't understand.
@Aidan Collins Sargon "I don't care about the science but am willing to dismiss the science behind climate change" Akkad.
@Aidan Collins Because as we all know, if you don't know 100% about everything then anything you do know is completely false and there's muh giant leftist conspiracy behind it all.
wait what trhe hell are you talking abut??? Sargon is ignorant about every single one of those topics as well as racism !! So i dont get your point at all
@@raidermaxx2324 Their point is that Sargon isn't ignorant, Sargon knows he's wrong and he knows the facts. He seems ignorant because he chooses not to acknowledge the facts, but he knows what's true and what isn't. He chooses not to care.
@@DragonOfVenezuela how do you know?
When he is complaining about Riz Ahmed, Sargon says he was born in Germany, and then complains about Riz being a coloniser, even though he was born in the UK. Is it just me who sees the irony there ?
also an english white person has no business calling someone else a colonizer lol
@@useroffline9999 yeah the lack of awareness is insane
"Ironic. Carl could call other people cucks, but not himself." -Sheeve Palpatine, 19 BBY
Sargon: *uses Bild as a source*
Me, a German: *slow facepalm*
I feel you. When people use European TotallyNotAtAllBiased(tm) entertainment tabloids as a proper source while screaming about fake news it's just a moment of cricket sounds for me.
Pumpkin Penguin *opens the box of sarcasm* What are you talking about? Bild is totally respectable and never sexist, racist or fake at all.
Soll man jetzt weinen oder lachen?
Just started learning German and followed Bild on Twitter. What's wrong with them?
loudrockacdc They are fake news
Yeah, I cringed at that too xD
Sargon is trapped in an echo chamber at this point. Any disagreement is dismissed as "the left". He's too far gone.
He's... Too fargon of Akkad?
Wow... Its crazy to think that... 3-4 years ago, I wouldn't have watched this vid, cuz I used to be a Sargon fan. I first thought he was a reasonable skeptic, until I saw his vid on Alexandria Cortez with Stalinist Communist imagery on the thumbnail, a clear attempt at hyperbolic fear mongering. I was already drifting away from his vids at that point, but that was the nail in the coffin.
maybe he was reasonable. i’m certainly not going to look through his back catalog of videos to find out, but it’s possible that he figured out what gets him the most views and ran with it.
For me it was the Trump videos that put me off. I really liked that he was showing the other side of stories that were trying to always put Trump in a negative light undeservingly. But then he became a true Trump supporter seemingly. Facepalm. Then the election fraud. It became obvious he has lost his integrity.
glad you were able to break away from that. my timeline is a little bit different but i would watch him pretty regularly as well in the 2014-2017 "UA-cam Skeptic" era...definitely not something i'm proud of. always made me very uncomfortable to see open white nationalists be the top commenters of his community and then the wider "bloodsports" community that popped up shortly thereafter... so glad i found better content to watch with a much more stable community.
"it's always Muslims doing this, yelling things like Allah akubar"
Well if I didn't think he's a prat before that just solidified my dismay
@Dylan Chouinard more like "it's always Christians doing this, yelling things like "I jove Lesus" because it's clearly not pronounced correctly.
He miss pronounced Allah as alloo
lucca- I spat out my coffee when I heard that.
lucca that is actually how you say that phrase. “Allahu akbar” it means god is great. The one thing in the video he got right and it was in the middle of a racist statement
@@Hannahgs it means god is greatest and Islam means submission.
The way Sargon smacks his lips, does that little chuckle, and finishes sentences with an emphatic finality makes me want to crush my own skull with a brick.
From now on, news should just be in video format, under five minutes long and delivered by an angry, British cartoon animal with weird views on race relations.
DDD033 trollololololol I live in an echo chamber it's lovely really helps me clear my own thoughts at least, you should come visit I need a good parrot to talk to I have birdseed and I'll make you a lovely perch to sit on ;) just lemme know
jblue1622 i like birdseed :)
Nick V. : I love your Battle Angel avatar! Always nice to see another fan 😊
DDD033 not sure if poes law or just joking.
+Nick V. I know you're referencing someone, and I have an idea who it is tickling the back of my brain, but can't get it. Who are you talking about?
The irony of such an islamophobe using the ruler of an empire that today is part of several predominantly Muslim countries as their avatar is m a s s i v e
Sargon was not Muslim, you dense twat.
@@Fr33zeBurn That isn't what they're saying
Not really…
Idk about that
He manages to read the article for twenty minutes without actually reading it because he just reiterates the same point over and over again instead of being short and to the point. He'd be really frustrating to listen even if he weren't horribly wrong.
You know he'd be a good politician though...
No, he'd be a popular politician, which isn't the same thing at all...
Richard Preston
I thought all politicians did was pretend to know how stuff works
Kaja Miletic Zamalo da počnem da ga gledam kada mi ga je jedan, sada ekstremni desničar preporučio (još lik reče 'to ti je liberal'). Sada vidim koliku sam količinu sranja izbegao na svu sreću.
But mate! It's the culture war mate! Gotta fight the culture war mate! -- Trashgon of Crappad
I can't believe I used to believe Sargon's rhetoric regarding the migrant crisis at the time. Back in high school I was so brainwashed that I would've avoided this video, and I sincerely envy the people who were able to leave the alt-right rabbit hole because of Shaun and managed to get out sooner.
Thank you so much for making the stuff that you do, man. You have no idea how grateful I am.
Glad u got out of there proud of you
the thing is, when you're young, you don't really have the life experience, or the know how to understand alot of this, I almost fell down the same rabbit hole, narrowly avoided it
anyway good to see you got a better perspective on it now, anyway sorry for the 9 month late comment lol
As a German, as soon as Carl said his source was BILD, he lost all credibility.
I'm guessing they're a very untrustworthy source over there? I'm American, by the way.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 Yep. The BILD is notoriously right-wing, anti-Immigrant and by far the least reliable mainstream newspaper in Germany. There's an official chart of how much fake news every newspaper prints, and the BILD leads it by a HUGE margin. The second most untrustworthy paper is from the same publisher as BILD, by the way.
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 Bild is basically German FOX News, if that makes any sense
@@octaviusroosevelt7355 I don't think Bild is a Murdoch publication, but it could easily be ...
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181that bad, huh? Wow. Seems like every country has its bad sources. Sucks they have to deal with that.
"What offends Sargon is the suggestion that something needs to be done."
That's the thing that I dislike most about the conservative ideology. They would rather keep everything the same, even when changes would not affect them at all but affect others positively.
they don't just not want others to have rights because theyre sadists, they're convinced that giving them rights or having to acknowledge their own privilege in even the most basic of ways would upset the simple, delicate balance that has supposedly kept the world going for generations and has been "working out fine for [straight white men] so far," so why try to change it up. they dont see or dont care about systematic inequality directed at outgroups, or the fact society has always, constantly been changing and the conservative utopia they dreamt of never actually existed. They want to shove their heads in the sand and pretend they can create the perfect world by outlawing LGBT people, abortion, etc. and sending all the minorities and "cultural marxists" back to some corner where they dont have to look at them, or worse, back to "wherever they came from" (and by this they mean where their ancestors came from, ignoring the irony white people in america are themselves immigrant colonizers of a now-minority race's home). It's as much a fantasy as the way they portray the left, except in this one they're closing their eyes and wishing away all the "weird people" they don't like or understand.
Well, some seem to perceive change itself to be negative to themself.
So you‘re saying „What I dislike most about the conservative ideology is that it‘s conservative“?
I like how every video criticizing Akkad gets disliked bombed.
Just goes to show how closed minded his fans are, eh?
Robotnik898 Yeah, before they dislike, they should explain as to WHY they disagree, or try to refute the UA-camrs points in your comment, but if you just dislike and leave an Ad-Hominem comment, then you’re closed minded.
Oh my! I'm getting flashbacks to videos criticizing A-log (especially those from the user GeorgieBoyReturns) getting filled with comments calling the uploader a "Chris-Chan Sympathizer".
Seriously, Sargon reminds me too much of A-log.
@@ahniandfriends123 who's A-log exactly?
@@BlueTyphoon2017 A-log was a commentary channel that focused on geek culture. He became just as popular as Sargon in the late 2000s when he did his string of videos on Chris-Chan (the guy who created Sonichu). Many of his videos covering Chris-Chan were nothing but him nitpicking every single detail of Chris's vlogs and commenting on how he is so much better than Chris. He would constantly compare Chris's antics to Saddam Hussein's actions during the Gulf War and those of two teenaged boys who tortured and murdered a toddler. Many people found out that he was just as bad as Chris when a video of him going an anime convention in surfaced in 2008. He was acting very awkwardly and creepily around the cosplayers and booth owners. When that video got featured on many cringe compilations, the comments section would be filled with people defending everything A-log did and calling the uploader a "CWC sympathizer". When GeorgieBoyReturns mirrored A-log's videos, the comments section would be a battlefield between A-log's fans and the people who hated A-log.
The term A-Logging is named after this user as he demonstrates a phenomenon called "Trollshielding", where someone would constantly hide behind an "anti-" movement in order to shield themselves from criticism. A-log made these Chris-Chan videos in order to mask his creepy behavior from the public. Sargon and many people within the Anti-SJW community fit this trollshielding definition like a glove as so many of them would deliberately take things out of context to be offended by, white-knight genuinely horrible people (like con artists and pedophiles) for giving their movement lip-service, get triggered over the slightest hint of criticism and have about as much attachment to reality as a five year old in a coma (just like the SJWs they complain about).
ironic for a statement rife with confirmation bias
I like how Sargon accuses others of being whiners whilst whining incessantly.
Around the 15 minute mark, I didn't believe when you said "the worst defense of capitalism I have ever heard"... You were right.
"Capitalism, it literally doesn't care"
But you know what does care? Implementations of capitalism. Unregulated, it tends towards exponential power. Place that over a, say, a society that is historically sexist, and you get a system that exemplifies the biases of said system. It doesn't matter if the "capitalism" is unbiased, it clearly works to empower bias. It's a catalyst. It increases bias.
It's just not the case that every business and entrepreneur starts fresh with clean-slate-capitalism, we all work off of currently established structures. Structures that already have their bias exemplified and encouraged.
Tbf though I’m a socialist I don’t understand how there can be anything inherently racist or sexist about capitalism. Obviously the systems are but only because of the country’s history
@@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 well think about it, doing the bare minimum while exploiting the lower class is the most effective means for money, capitalism will always tend toward this outcome because exploitation makes far more money like this, since they can reinforce shit laws and goad social infrastructure, while increasing the gap between the classes.
How to argue like Carl Benjamin
Step 1: Skim the article without comprehension until you find one bit that offends your personal sensibilities.
Step 2: EMPHATICALLY. CONTRADICT. WITHOUT. OFFERING. COUNTEREVIDENCE.
Step 3: Repeat.
the capitalism sexism part was just peak sargon. not reading properly and then making one of the worst arguments ive ever heard against the original sentence
Revisit these dark days with the new 106-minute documentary on Sargon, MRAs, and GamerGate: YT search for "Munted, Random"
I love how they mask their rage with the fakest sounding laughter.
Thought the same thing. Never heard a silent cry that loud
Nobody Lurker Good job brining political bias into here for no reason other to shit on the side you disagree with. To be real, a shit ton of people do this. Usually the stupid ones that get angrily triggered by the smallest shit, like Sargon for example. This isn't "mostly liberals." This goes for every side.
The reason you think it is mostly liberals is because you watch a lot of videos depicting liberals as crazy and irrational, while only showing the crazy and irrational liberals. You never get shown the crazy and irrational people who's opinions are the same as your own with because that does not fit you and your group's narrative. But they exist. It's a fact. And there's a lot of them.
So stop being ignorant and painting the groups you hate as irrational. You are likely as crazy and wrong as the people you think are crazy and wrong. Once you come to realize the hypocrisy, you can move on.
Nobody Lurker "no u"
nice one friendo ✔️
Aww Nobody Lurker deleted their comment, now I'll never get cancer :(
Shane Benjamson Mate, allow me to mansplain it. The sort heheheHAHAHAHAHA fake laughter you see with Sargon and his community is a characteristic trait.
Sure you may find it other places, but it doesn't make up the majority like there.
Just face it; the sceptic/liberalist community is the new atheism+
AAAAAAA I love when he says "They go around yelling Allahu Akbar" does he even know what that means??
As a white New Zealander who grew up in the late eighties and nineties on UK and US TV (Because most New Zealand shows then were unwatchable) I can confirm that we absolutely noticed when New Zealand or a New Zealander was mentioned on TV. It’s just naturally exciting to see someone who looks or sounds like you on TV when 99.999% of people on TV don’t.
Canadians are exactly the same. (Canadians are on US TV all the time, but usually they are cosplaying Americans. A Canadian *character* on US or UK TV? Let's have a party!!)
I'm also Jewish and I get unreasonably excited (and nitpicky) whenever I happen upon a storyline or character that is explicitly written as Jewish.
yeah, same as a white Irish person. i imagine it's the same anywhere foreign TV is more watched than local (as well as in cases where local populations are not represented on local TV, like that actor was talking about)
Kinda ironic that this Sargon dude names himself after a Middle Eastern personality, considering how he views Middle Easterners in general. Or does he think Sargon of Akkad was actually a European?
Brandon Pilcher it's not uncommon for white racists to appropriate pre-Islamic Middle Eastern culture...
So, do they think the Middle East was better off before Muhammad showed up or something?
It's funny, since the real Sargon of Akkad was a ruthless authoritarian conqueror who razed city after city, laying waste to the land and carrying its people away into slavery.
Right. Those were brutal times that produced him.
Also, Sargon was a migrant, part of a group that assimilated the sumerian culture and replaced the Elites. The Irony. Is. Just. Extraordinary.
"It's 'you can't tell me what to do Mum' as a political position." Brilliant.
Whats worse Sargon or Nickelback? Well at least Nickelback never tried to justify a rise in hate crimes.
Ok. New one...
What's worse? Sargon or Nickelback and Saliva teaming up for one of the most annoying butt rock songs or all time for a spider man movie?
I still go with Sargon. Butt rock is at least funny bad. Sargon is just... Bad...
Nickelback tried to force me to look at a picture
Fucking commies trying to take away my freedom
@@GanguroKonata I liked it when he showed me that graph
@@GanguroKonata my god, must be a jewish producer making that video then forcing ous his feminazi values through those focking commies, THE GOVERMENT IS BEHIND IT!!!
As someone who likes many songs from Nickelback, I am deeply offended.
But then again, everytime I see a joke on Nickelback it makes me laugh, just like this photograph.
Me: sees dislikes
Me: scrolls down to see the Sargon fanboys responses
Me: sees none
"Ah so they didnt actually watch the video. Makes sense."
Intellectual powerhouses like Sargon of Akkad won't watch more than one Sargon (five minutes) of a Leftist video as they'll be wasting time that could be spent on destroying the Left with supreme facts and ultimate knowledge.
I listen to the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters and used to listen to Sargon a lot, I did watch this whole video and Shaun is dead right. I have nothing to say in his defense in these cases. The "alt-right" media does have it's place, I really dislike I, Hypocrite but his documentary on grooming gangs in the UK was quite shocking and really showed how diversity politics can fuck people over, when cops turned a blind eye to predominately Middle Eastern/Asian grooming gangs in the UK and certain officers were literally told "go and find some white perpetrators" instead of investigating these gangs. Commentators like these guys are good for exposing things like that, or teachers trying to protect pedophiles, or people trying to push children into transition surgery. They lose me when they get into shit like this, or when they claim we need religion in our government, and certainly I have a massive fucking problem with talks of ethnostates and racial separation, which interestingly enough is an idea I hear from both far right and far left people now which scares me, because I think we really are better off together, many of the best people I know are first or second generation immigrants and my life would certainly be worse off without them around me.
Wow i didn't realize how delusional sargon was until now. The fact that he still has an audience is scary.
They're all just as mentally deficient as he is.
Not as bad as when he tried getting into real life politics, via UKIP.
@@retrogamelover2012 and he still claims he is centre left..
@@clairofan01 lol is this fr
unhinge the cringe yeah it’s to make him seem like a rational thinker but he’s just a far right tool
I can't listen to this any more. You're absolutely right Shaun and Jen, but I just can't listen to Carl ranting about something he doesn't understand at all
For Sargon's thing at 26:55, some simple word replacement can go a long way there:
"This is happening every day now. Somewhere in America a right-wing white guy commits a mass shooting. How long do you think people will put up with this, before deciding the problem is simply right-wing white dudes?"
the problem is that there's enough of such people too, sadly
who else saw the dislike ratio then immediately sorted by new in the comments to see if you could catch a live one?
Guilty 😂
A ratio like this doesn’t get built with a single raid. A new wave passes through each time the algorithm starts recommending it again.
Listening to Sargon is painful, but Shaun's ASMR voice at the end soothed the damage somewhat