This film was depressing and dark. There's a feeling of dread, sadness, hopelessness and horror throughout. if you take the film by face value its actually pretty great and is actually a great sequel to the original Ridley Scott film. The problem it had was it was never going to live up to the pace and thrills of james Camerons aliens. killing off the surviving characters may of set the tone of this film, but alienated (pun!) the fan audience of Aliens. I have rewatched aliens dozens of times, but i find alien 3 to be difficult to sit through. It doesn't make it a bad film at all, in fact its brilliant just very dark and a bit of a downer you kinda have to be in the right mood to watch something like this.
It is a bad film but this is my humble opinion only, I do not like the film but I am aware it has a cult following and many fans who would argue otherwise. I completely agree with your points raised about the feeling of the movie and how it would feel more at home following on from the original Alien rather than Aliens, and nothing was going to live up to James Camerons previous work which is easily one of the best films of the 1980s and is widely considered the best movie in the franchise, although the original Alien is my all time favourite because for me it manages to simultaneously be both one of the best sci-fi and horror films combined into one masterpiece, there just isn't anything else like it out there which is comparable. If there is, please let me know as I would love to check it out. My main problem with Alien 3 is the pacing, it could of been so much better if they turned up the terror and pacing when it was really needed, it could of been a roller coaster of a movie like the film before it, unfortunately it just doesn't happen. I know they are completely different films but there is a moment in Aliens where it gets "turned up to 11" so to speak and it is relentless, I wish this film did the same when it was needed. Instead Alien 3 plods along at the same mundane pace throughout the entire picture, yes deaths happen and there are moments of excitement, but afterwards it recedes back into it's own sedateness. If I could describe Alien 3 in one word it would be stale. I still commend it for being David Finchers directorial debut and risking taking the franchise in another experimental direction, I am still amazed at the fact they even managed to make a movie out of it at all, given all the script re writes and so on. Quite an achievement really, even if the end result is somewhat lukewarm compared to the previous instalments.
I love Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 each for their own things. Aliens is my personal favourite but I always disagreed with the criticism of Alien 3 being that Newt and Hicks died. I feel that this film has a finality to it for all the characters. Newt and Hicks dying was essential to Ripley’s story in this film. She loses everything just based on her life being tied to the xenomorph. And the xenomorph is just built to survive. It doesn’t care what it does as long as it’s race lives.
If talking about the assembly cut, it's a well engineered film. But it's just a terrible story. Just an Alien chasing Ripley in a penal colony, that's the freaking plot. Zero interest. A huge downgrade from what Aliens (1986) built.
If alien 3 had been the William Gibson screenplay, he probably would have been. Hicks was the lead in that. With the right director, I think it could have been better than what they went for. Interestingly, no Ripley in that screenplay. Originally Sigouney Weaver didn't want to be in a third film... until, well, she did.
I liked it, but I was also sorely disappointed. Aliens, man. How do you fuck that up? Many directors and screenplays later... jeez. It showed. It was also very sad and a big fuxk you to the Aliens fanbase. It was a sequel to Alien, not Aliens. This is why Blomkamp had every right to ignore Alien 3 and do a sequel to the film of HIS choosing, like Fincher.
@@christianzilla I was always bothered by the stark difference in atmosphere of Aliens. It lacked the feel which I think it should have aimed to continue. Alien³, brought HR Giger aboard again and that's how I learned about him and realised aha that's what was missing. HR Giger was very keen to be involved with Aliens but was turned down by James Cameron. That was a mistake I feel, unless it resulted in creative clashes.
@@torquetheprisoner yes, I heard it was a complete disaster of a production and not Fincher's fault at all. There were so many good ideas and leaks happening during the making of the film and none of them came to be in the film. I suspect it was a hot potato because of Aliens' success. I like Fincher for Fight Club the most. He is obviously a great director.
The films outdoor locations were shot in the North East of England - specifically an Old Power Station and local beach in Dawdon ( Seaham ) The area was known for its bleakness and bad weather, - I lived in Peterlee nearby and was studying media studies at the time. luckily got to watch some of the filming at the beach and was invited to the closed set at the power station. The scrap yard scenes were filmed there saw the massive EEV on the crane and the scrapped Model of Bishop. Unfortunately, no really famous actors were there only extras
I’m from Seaham and remember them filming down the blast, it took quite a few takes as the locals used to collect sea coal from there and sell it you’d see them pushing multiple bags on push bikes in the distance
@@RationalRage9 Nope he's dead. But the Dark Horse comics followed a different path, and it's really cool, Newt grows out of her trauma to join an old Hicks in a brutal new generation of Colonial Marines designed only to kill Xenos
@@fakirpoo I like the vibe in the intro and I personally like 3 because it goes back to its claustrophobic horror roots and the soundtrack is also amazing. That is all.
This film got some mixed reviews, but if anyone who worked on the film is reading this, thank you making this brilliant film. This was the last great Alien film, it got stupid after this.
Well luckily people have different opinions and I personally thought this was what killed the series I thought this movie was utter trash and all the movie since then have not been the best although I will say covenant was really good and I enjoyed that a lot.
@Clark Kent alien 3 was nothing but artsy garbage and it was rewrotein 20 times with 15 different cuts and none of them are any good at least covenant had one decent cut and it wasn't a horrible movie.
@@bigdoinks69 "Well luckily people have a different opinion"? Why luckily? Because it aligns with your view point? Not that many people do, they just see the good in Alien 3.
What they did to Newt not only undid everything we went through in Alien 2 but to also show that she died in pain and horror not sure if this was an insult to alien 2 or a brilliant choice.
In Aliens Colonial Marines "Stasis Interrupted", Dwayne Hicks was still alive. His dead body was got replaced by someone during the hyper sleep, but in the end of the game story Hicks remained too late to Save Ripley by watching her death scene in the ending of Alien 3... 😥😥
@sakunysz Nope. It wasn't effective at being emotional or a gut-punch. It turned out to not bear sharp enough teeth; far too concerned with rehashing the elements of the original.
@sakunysz And yet still, ultimately, it wasn't all for nothing. It found itself ending on a note of optimism, after all... albeit a shakily awkward one. Ripley stepping into the whole trite "Christ figure sacrifice" gag had us feeling as if she at least WON and got revenge for all those she cared about that died along the way... along with the satisfaction of knowing that this species was FINALLY rid from the universe.
looked like Newt was awake, as she was drowning. don't know if that is how they did it in the movie or if it was an effect for this video. if that is how it was in the movie, then I can understand even more the distaste of killing off Newt and Hicks. would have been better if she never woke up and just died in her sleep. here it looked like she was screaming and clawing at the glass.
Alien is a horror movie, the universe is dark, unforgiving and cruel. It's sad that both died, but the trauma ripely experiences as a result of newts death is central to her persona throughout the movie.
@@SolarDragon1000yes alien is a horror movie and the world is dark and depressing, but if the cat manages to live in the first movie (and not die in the second), and the second movie manages to end on a sort of hopeful tone, that sort of proves that good things can happen right?
Not really, because doesn't the Face Hugger die off after it impregnates its host? What's it doing running around forever face hugging and planting eggs in everything? I don't think that's how the canon goes.
@@jrag1000 actually it was suppose to be a queen face hugger, it lays a queen embryo in one host, and lays a drone in another, to prepare a hive for the queen.
Basically - because they had to do it themselves. With progress of Technology ― it becomes increasingly more expensive(mostly with relation to Time) to not just use a low quality Effect(CGI etc). The same is true for everything else ― everything becomes low quality. It's the Low Equilibrium - docs.google.com/document/d/1GCJlCn844x62IaP4ce2ADSu1M7cfMjLyrcZ0QqwdHAo/edit?usp=sharing
@VV no kidding and it's always wannabe film guru's. The film tried to be artsy it tried to include a religious antidote and it failed miserably on all levels,I will say Charles S. Dutton's performance and Charles Dances performances were fantastic, although Charles dance should have been given more screen time, as far as the rest of the movie it was quite forgetable and pretty bad. They never really knew where they wanted to take the direction of the movie they couldn't even decide what the facehugger was going to burst out of, it's different in multiple versions of the movie that's how you know that the movie had no continuity.
When Neil Blomkamp wanted to direct a sequel to Aliens that ignored the Alien 3 film and still featured Hicks and Newt, he got as far as the screenplay and nearly got a deal... then nothing. They'd have probably been fighting xenomorphs back on earth. The franchise has been cursed since Alien 3, I swear.
@@TheNowhereMan0 the rot started a few decades before that. Alien Isolation has a better story than most sequels to Alien. The part where they go back to the space jockey ship for instance. Amazing! But you have to play a game to see it. Big cinema has eaten itself.
Ridley became jealous of the traction Neil’s film was getting and demanded covenant be filmed instead. Neil was so disappointed and angry since Ridley has basically supported the vision he abandoned the project completely. The premise was hicks and ripley return to earth and confront the WY corporation and discover their harboring and experimenting on the xenos. It sounded great but Neil is still so bitter over the experience he’s stated several times that ship has sailed. What a lost opportunity 😢
Very nicely done! I like your edit blending the two versions. Agreed the Assembly Cut is far superior and absolutely should have been what they put in theaters in 1992. Agreed the score by Elliot Goldenthal is bloody fantastic. Considering the hell this production was put through from story & script rewrites, director hirings/ firings, unyielding pressure, interference and meddling from outside, it's almost miraculous a film like the Assembly Cut came out of all that.
@@AugustoV8Cesar The prison idea is a good idea. There was some alternative script about a wooden planet which just sounds ridiculous. The problem with Alien 3 was not explaining how the Alien got on board in the first place, which I'm astonished no one seems to point out.
@@JAWS-dn8fm I would assume (and from what i've heard with theories) is that at the end of Aliens the queen snuck an egg onto the ship because Ripley destroyed the hive. I think the queen did this to save the hive and keep the species alive which is why the alien inside Ripley in this film was a queen alien instead of a normal chestburster.
since Bishop was essentially an emergency pilot for the Sulacco maybe there was a second android onboard, with a mission to retrieve an egg & bring it back to the ship. since the marines didn't wake up until they reached LV426 maybe the actual Bishop went down there & got an egg. if theinstruction self deleted after completing the task Bishop wouldn't even know he'd been there. most likely when Bishop was crawling through the pipe to get to an uplink tower he had time to find an egg & stash it. they showed Ash got instructions from WY so Bishop could be receiving new instructions when he re-established a link with the Sulacco & Wayland Corp. or. most likely.the queen laid an egg before Ripley killed it. the Royal Facehugger could create a starter colony - since there's a Queen & drone egg in one cute little hugger
It may not have been the Alien movie people wanted (especially at the time - I was as gutted as anyone that Newt and Hicks were written out...) but I think it's actually very good for other reasons despite it, and has stood the test of time very well. The movie is absolutely dripping with atmosphere, has a wonderful score and tells a great redemption story for many characters you initially write off as nothing more than pure scum (Dillon especially). It's positively a work of art compared to Resurrection and most of the tat released today.
I'm on both sides of this issue. I won't say Alien 3 doesn't have merit because it does and frankly the film has no right to be as good as it is given the hell the production went through and the assembly cut is closer to Fincher's original vision but on the other side, Aliens was about Ripley having a family again, a theme that resonates throughout from when she sees her daughter died of old age while she was in hypersleep, to the idea of Hicks and Newt being a tether in a world she no longer knows. Then comes Alien 3 to kick you in the balls and says "Yeah but that's not how the story goes." The movie feels like one long tragedy for Ripley as once again, the aliens have taken everything she cared about then finds out she has one gestating inside her. There is no happy ending for her and her ending is dying and taking the queen chestburster with her to spite the company.
David Fincher is a great director I remember he was getting a heap of flack when this film was released and Sigourney Weaver came out swinging for him basically saying he had a lot of studio interference and to mark her words some day the world is going to see how good he really is.
That was such an absolute shit way to start the movie with newt and hicks dead like wtf. Like two of these amazing characters just killed off screen and the rest of the movie we never get close to how good those characters were from alien 2 especially bishop.
Excellent job! I've always wanted to see an edited version of the assembly cut which still has the inclusion of the super/royal facehugger (since I think it's a great addition to the lore which helps resolve the one egg and two embryos issue) but sticks with the alien coming out of the dog because to me, given the size and appearance of the creature and how it moves, it makes a lot more sense for it to have come from a dog. I also wish the assembly cut kept the part with the queen chestburster coming out of Ripley at the end since, in my opinion, that made her death scene much more dramatic and impactful.
Agreed. I think the reshoots gives a more effective and dramatic touch to the EEV scenes were you get a proper view of what happened to everyone inside the EEV. And the assembly footage also provides a good view from outside. You dont want to miss either of those.
if you guys watch the workprint version there is an extended scene where Ripley plugs Bishop back to life and he confesses her he took the egg back to the Sulaco for further research. Since he was a Weyland Yutani android he had a secondary objective programmed in him to retrieve specimens unbeknownst to the rest of the crew. It's a shame they took that scene out of both cuts, it would finally answered how the egg ended up in the ship which had everyone debating about it for years.
Alien 3 is one of the great works in the history of cinema, but the film Aliens impressed me ten times more than the third part. This film could have won an Oscar, and I think it deserves it.
@@ShadowSonic2 maybe, maybe not. The xenomorph threat is tough for multiple people to deal with let alone one. I suppose it depends on what route you wanna go, action or horror.
Killing off Hicks was the worst mistake in movie making. Michael Biehn was a good actor and should have been in this movie all the way through and survived.
I think one of the worst things they did with this franchise was kill off Newt, Bishop, and Hicks. Off screen, especially. You had 4 characters, a little found family, that survived against impossible odds. Destroyed. Gone. It's just a downer. A major downer. I'm not against isolating, sad tones. Or major character deaths. But to take them out off screen? Nah.
I remember feeling underwhelmed when I first watched this movie all those years ago. After watching it again recently nearly 30 years later it is truly phenomenal!!
Best in the franchise and my top 5 sci-fi films of all time. Much like the prequels and many other films like them, it was destined for what it became due to the majority audience and what they want out of a movie. Shame really.
Interesting… I love the Snyder cut. I also like both versions of Alien 3. I feel they both have good and bad points. At least the theatrical cut didn’t destroy the movie or turn it into a silly joke like they did with JL though. I like the chest bursts ray the end of the theatrical and the dog scene too. I always feel fincher is too critical of the movie.
Ahhh...... Alien 3.....the beginning of the end of a movie franchise. They begin with an instant classic with Alien. They follow up with a solid action movie with Aliens. Then the bed shitting begins.... And they've never been able to stop it.
Both openings still do not make sense, because In the AC, Ripley's pod is next to Hick's Destroyed Cryotube (The one with all the blood) but In the TC we see that Ripley is next to the hatch of the EEV and that Newt was in-between Hicks and Ripley, unless there is something I'm missing I think I'm overall right.
Its not clear since they dont show the entire row of cryotubes in either version. Hicks and Bishop are in the same place. Since Ripley is alive in the theatrical cut I removed that part to keep it similar. Newt should be closest to the door if I remember Aliens correctly and Ripley after that and then Hicks and Bishop.
@@daveruda yes but everybody forgets that the cryo-tubes were evacuated to the escape pod and they may have not ended up in the same position as they were in the spaceship.
Still holding out hope that we see Alien 5 sometime in the future. I don't hate 3 per se, but killing Newt and Hicks just makes it hard for me to like it. And don't even talk to me about Resurrection.
Killing off Hicks & Newt was just wrong, also if the face hugger was still active in the escape pod after the crash landing, how did it impregnate Ripley ?.
@@usgpillarofark3980 Disney might bring that back since they own the franchise now. Never say never. They saw how Covenant underperformed and Star Wars is pretty much on hiatus right now so they need something to make some $$$ now. Would be a good way for Disney to earn some good will if they decided to actually give the fans what they want ie a good Alien film for once that actually is on the same level of Alien and Aliens.
@@usgpillarofark3980 I'm kinda glad that didn't happen considering Blomkamp has made District 9, 3 times now. That film would have just been another District 9 wrapped in aliens nostalgia. I have my issue's with this film, a lot of decisions where dumb but I've gotten over it and started to appreciate the good parts of film. If they do make an Alien 5 I'd rather they just move on with new characters instead of digging up dead ones and giving us a "how it should have ended" ending for them. Those types of films just feel like fan films with a budget.
@@topknot01 Fair point. I didnt like Districy 9 honestly plus Alien 3 has its fanbase. Though the movie has been rewritten so many times its easy to imagine a different product. And with the current state of modern cinema...It will never be good...
Where did the Alien egg on the Sulaco come from? Queen had no egg sack and no time to lay an egg anyway. The egg is shown not to be in the dropship landing gear well. The only place the Queen might have had time to deposit an egg. The cryo pods on the Sulaco are the ones from the first Alien movie (Nostromo) not the ones they used on the Sulaco. The Sulaco just happens to be within the gravity well of a habitable planet when it ejects the EEV. Facehuggers can now impregnate a second time before dying. Goes against established lore. Weyland Yutani arrive in the same class of spaceship as the Sulaco. Ok so maybe WY make them? But now it's capable of planetary landings. It's established in Aliens that dropships are necessary to get to and from the Sulaco to a planetary surface. How did WY arrive so quickly to Fiorina 161? Seems like only a few days after Ripley arrived. Even if they had a ship nearby human Bishop just happened to be on it? If WY wanted an Alien sample just go back to LV-426 to the space jockeys ship. Should still be there. The nuke explosion that destroyed the colony couldn't vaporize a ship that was so far away the colonists never found it for 20 years before Burke told them where to look.
I could never understand why they killed off Hicks and Newt at the start of Alien 3. All that Ripley went through at the end of Aliens too rescue Newt.
Like if newt got taken off world in a escape vessel mid way and Ripley says “I was here when it all started I’m not leaving till it’s done “ then shuts the ship door on newt and says something like “it’s see you soon baby” and obviously hicks says something like “I’m right here beside you” and like dies at the end I would have been fine with that but no just chop liver off the top of the movie.
Imagine going through the hell of the Nostromo. Going back to LV-426 and go through another hell and then when you think you are safe you crash land in Australia. Poor Ripley.
To this very day, I still believe Alien 3 was almost one of the most brilliant sci-fi movies ever made. It feels like a final edit away from perfection. I'd love Fincher to revisit the film.
Newt's death was such a heartbreaker. everything she went through, getting saved at the last second by Ripley from the nest and the battle with the queen only to drown in her tube
The Assembly Cut is fantastic, completely different from the butchered theatrical version. And Dillion is a more ultimate badass than Hudson. Truly iconic character.
If it makes anyone feel better, in a DLC level of Aliens: Colonial Marines, it's revealed that Hicks actually escaped from the cyro pod from the help of two mercenaries, but unfortunately, one of the mercenaries ended up taking Hicks' place in the pod.
For now that's actually canon too until Disney (yep, Disney is now in charge of this franchise since they bought 20th Century Fox) says otherwise. Apparently they have plans for both Alien and Predator with new films in the works but nothing concrete right now. Hopefully they forego any more prequels with Ridley Scott and do something else with Alien since Covenant was meh.
If you think about it…Newt, Hicks, 157 colonists on LV426, and all the Colonial Marines that went to LV426 would have been better off if Ripley had been killed in the first film or if her ship had never been found. If Ripley had died in the first film then she wouldn’t be there to tell Burke about the Alien ship/eggs and Burke never tells colonists to look for it so Newt’s dad doesn’t get infected so the colony doesn’t get wiped out by Xenomorphs and the Colonial Marines are not sent to investigate. So Hicks and Newt never meet Ripley and don’t die in Cryotubes. Alien 3 makes Alien 2 pointless. Every single character on the Solaco and on LV426 in Aliens ends up getting killed.
True, but my guess would be that eventually it would happen because another ship would get the distress signal from LV-426 and the same thing would probably happen if she died.
If I ever get my hands on a screenplay for Aliens I’m writing in that Newt briefly woke up but then was snap frozen in the pod. Doctor falsified the report and the company picked her up after the events of 3. I’d use a doctored version of this shot specific.
Believe me, you WON'T want to know. When I saw that part on 2:34, as I was getting ready to go to bed, I had to look away, because it nearly gave me nightmares.
Best Alien film ever & this is coming from someone that was obsessed with Aliens since the mid 90's as a 8 yr old boy yet this is my favorite of all three especially as I got older , I never found it as depressing when I first saw it back in 96 as much as I saw it disturbing, It is just as unique as the first two films except this one is far more realistic with basically everything except for the rod puppet scenes of the Alien running (no that's not CGI) & it also his the best & most iconic Xenomorph scenes of all the films in the entire series & it's the most graphic by far like literally it's more graphic than all the other 6 film all put together but it's all extremely realistic made of nothing except practical make up effects , no CGI when it comes to any of the violence whatsoever!!!! This film is the most brutally unapologetic Sci-fi horror thriller of all time hands down 💯
@@OGboxing...it has NO cgi of whatsoever! What r u on about? Watch the "making of" Alien3,and you'll find that there's only 1 cgi scene in all the film,and that is the ending shot where alien jumps out of the lead,and into the sprinkled water,and his head "en-crusts" then explodes! That is it. Now therest of the scenes where alien looks crappy (it really does) is not cgi,but composing separate shots of rod-operated creature blended into film.
@mattlawrence1932 hello there anyway The Thing (1982) is my number 1 favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien (1979) is my second favorite sci-fi horror movie and Aliens (1986) is my favorite third sci-fi action and horror movie and Alien 3 (1992) is my 4th favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien Resurrection (1997) my 5th favorite sci-fi horror movie as well:).
That movie started out okay, but if the last 1/3 of that movie wasn't a pile of schlock I dunno what is. I remember thinking around like the 70 minute mark, "OMG WOULD YOU JUST END ALREADY!?" Like it just kept going and going and going... and I'm assuming the studio execs at some point or Ridley was like, "Oh, you have to include references and callouts to Aliens, Alien: Resurrection, Prometheus and Covenant btw... so if you could just get on that..." You can actually see the color tone around the last 1/3 of the film switch from the early on red hue to like a blue/Aliens like hue. I have to imagine it was reshot.
The beginning scene where the ship crashes into the sea is in my hometown Seaham Harbour Co Durham known locally as the blast as the beach was black from the dumping of coal slurry from the mines, it looks a lot nicer now
So the alien queen brought some face huggers or eggs with her onto the shuttle they escaped on. Makes sense, survival instinct. Stupid for the crew to sleep without checking.
This movie was an insult to the two classics before it. No wonder Michael Biehn and Carrie Henn wanted nothing to do with this production. That's why Hicks and Newt were killed off. David Fincher has even said there is no way to salvage this train wreck.
Everybody is hating on the death of Newt and Hicks - which i can understand - but after Ripley was drifting in space's emptyness for 57 years, this movie showed again just how scary space can be. Not to mention this sets up Ripley's sacrafice and the movie's tone perfectly.
@@my2randomcents the entire point of those characters surviving at the end of the second film was to bring them back in later sequels, and this completely defeats that and rubs it in your face.
@@Supasmartguy that wasn't the"point"tho there was no plan for future sequels, nor was it meant to become a"marvelish"franchise, alien 3 happened after they wanted to move back to the dreary and realistic traits of the universe
@@my2randomcents they absolutely had plans for future sequels. Alien 3 was in development hell since almost immediately after Aliens released. It went through so many script changes and rewrites that basically none of its original plot remained. This is proven by the fact that the film's first poster promised that the film would be set on Earth.
Hated what they decided to do with Hicks and Newt. Blomkamp had the right idea with his Alien 5, too bad Ridley can't just retire and let us have our true Aliens sequel.
Yeah. Alien 3 and Resurrection shouldve been nothing more than bad dreams. Heck, you could even throw in a few actors from those movies that Ripley sees in her day to day life... like Ron Perlman. Take the whole dream concept really seriously
I love alien3, both theatrical and cut, much more than aliens. The problem was the fanbase; they just wanted more pulse rifles and goofy lines while shooting space ants.
Call me crazy, but I always dreamed of a (proper) video game based on Alien 3. Maybe it could be similar to Alien Isolation since there's only one beast. But also I'd love the game could have an adventure game quality and had very different endings, apart from the one in the movie. What if Newt or Hicks weren't dead, what if Ellen considered being operated and the queen's embryo would have been extracted from her, what if Ripley wasn't the impregnated one...
The 3rd and Final Act alone with the Dog Alien hunting the prisoners as they tried to set the trap was intricate, gripping and terrifying. Running upside down, tthe camera panning in a circle and chasing on the ground like we're the alien was pulse pounding amazing! David Fincher had a unique style.
Alien 3 was supposed to be a planet filled with monks that were outcast of Weyland Yutani and anti technology, and wooden structures. Production of these structures were already made halfway when they pulled the plug on that story, and went with this story. They use back the same structures and repainted it.
Poor Hicks…he was impaled so bad that you can’t make out his face. Rest easy Marine.
Hicks is alive according to the video game, and thank god.
@@GOKU_32 Yeah, but the canonicity of the game is very ambiguous....
tuat was newt
@@GOKU_32 A video game isn't cannon.
@@JAWS-dn8fm A video game very well is when the owners of the franchise say so.
This film was depressing and dark. There's a feeling of dread, sadness, hopelessness and horror throughout. if you take the film by face value its actually pretty great and is actually a great sequel to the original Ridley Scott film. The problem it had was it was never going to live up to the pace and thrills of james Camerons aliens. killing off the surviving characters may of set the tone of this film, but alienated (pun!) the fan audience of Aliens. I have rewatched aliens dozens of times, but i find alien 3 to be difficult to sit through. It doesn't make it a bad film at all, in fact its brilliant just very dark and a bit of a downer you kinda have to be in the right mood to watch something like this.
It is a bad film but this is my humble opinion only, I do not like the film but I am aware it has a cult following and many fans who would argue otherwise.
I completely agree with your points raised about the feeling of the movie and how it would feel more at home following on from the original Alien rather than Aliens, and nothing was going to live up to James Camerons previous work which is easily one of the best films of the 1980s and is widely considered the best movie in the franchise, although the original Alien is my all time favourite because for me it manages to simultaneously be both one of the best sci-fi and horror films combined into one masterpiece, there just isn't anything else like it out there which is comparable. If there is, please let me know as I would love to check it out.
My main problem with Alien 3 is the pacing, it could of been so much better if they turned up the terror and pacing when it was really needed, it could of been a roller coaster of a movie like the film before it, unfortunately it just doesn't happen. I know they are completely different films but there is a moment in Aliens where it gets "turned up to 11" so to speak and it is relentless, I wish this film did the same when it was needed. Instead Alien 3 plods along at the same mundane pace throughout the entire picture, yes deaths happen and there are moments of excitement, but afterwards it recedes back into it's own sedateness. If I could describe Alien 3 in one word it would be stale.
I still commend it for being David Finchers directorial debut and risking taking the franchise in another experimental direction, I am still amazed at the fact they even managed to make a movie out of it at all, given all the script re writes and so on. Quite an achievement really, even if the end result is somewhat lukewarm compared to the previous instalments.
I love Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 each for their own things. Aliens is my personal favourite but I always disagreed with the criticism of Alien 3 being that Newt and Hicks died. I feel that this film has a finality to it for all the characters. Newt and Hicks dying was essential to Ripley’s story in this film. She loses everything just based on her life being tied to the xenomorph. And the xenomorph is just built to survive. It doesn’t care what it does as long as it’s race lives.
If talking about the assembly cut, it's a well engineered film. But it's just a terrible story.
Just an Alien chasing Ripley in a penal colony, that's the freaking plot. Zero interest. A huge downgrade from what Aliens (1986) built.
Agreed underrated film
Agree completely.
Michael Biehn should have became a household name , such an underrated actor who’s star never had the ability to fully shine.
Even though he never became a household name, the roles he did have (Terminator, Aliens, Tombstone, The Rock) were all very memorable.
Booze got him.
It sucks, and it’s common.
@@benjaminperez7328 He had a stroke as well. But he's still doin fine. Sometimes pops into Doug Stanhope's podcast.
If worse comes to worst he can always get a job flipping burgers
If alien 3 had been the William Gibson screenplay, he probably would have been. Hicks was the lead in that. With the right director, I think it could have been better than what they went for. Interestingly, no Ripley in that screenplay. Originally Sigouney Weaver didn't want to be in a third film... until, well, she did.
The shot of Newt's face frozen in a silent scream ☹️
The last loudmouth scream
its even more disturbing in the on set photo 😬😱💀
no shit the public didn't like it . who ever wrote that part , is an utter jerk
@@torquetheprisoner deym.
It's so brutal
Watching this in the cinema in 1992 was an experience. Loved that the xenomorph got the smooth head back.
I liked it, but I was also sorely disappointed. Aliens, man. How do you fuck that up? Many directors and screenplays later... jeez. It showed.
It was also very sad and a big fuxk you to the Aliens fanbase. It was a sequel to Alien, not Aliens. This is why Blomkamp had every right to ignore Alien 3 and do a sequel to the film of HIS choosing, like Fincher.
@@christianzilla I was always bothered by the stark difference in atmosphere of Aliens. It lacked the feel which I think it should have aimed to continue. Alien³, brought HR Giger aboard again and that's how I learned about him and realised aha that's what was missing.
HR Giger was very keen to be involved with Aliens but was turned down by James Cameron. That was a mistake I feel, unless it resulted in creative clashes.
@@christianzillafincher had next to no script time or money and had the studio breathing down his neck when he was making this movie.
@@torquetheprisoner yes, I heard it was a complete disaster of a production and not Fincher's fault at all. There were so many good ideas and leaks happening during the making of the film and none of them came to be in the film. I suspect it was a hot potato because of Aliens' success. I like Fincher for Fight Club the most. He is obviously a great director.
But the CGI was a bad idea. CGI Alien just looked off, way too smooth and shiny.
I love Charles Dance in this film. This is the first time I saw him act and I immediately loved him.
“Do you still
Trust me me with a needle ?”
Dutton
A Lannister always pays his debts
You never saw The Golden Child?
@@susieq360 if a man needs to say he is the king, then he isn't the king.
I definitely love the atmosphere of this movie! Very gritty and dark!
The assembly cut is the far superior version
The films outdoor locations were shot in the North East of England - specifically an Old Power Station and local beach in Dawdon ( Seaham ) The area was known for its bleakness and bad weather, - I lived in Peterlee nearby and was studying media studies at the time. luckily got to watch some of the filming at the beach and was invited to the closed set at the power station. The scrap yard scenes were filmed there saw the massive EEV on the crane and the scrapped Model of Bishop. Unfortunately, no really famous actors were there only extras
Interesting story!
I’m from Seaham and remember them filming down the blast, it took quite a few takes as the locals used to collect sea coal from there and sell it you’d see them pushing multiple bags on push bikes in the distance
Epic!!
Hicks' broken face was an instant trauma for me as a kid.
@@RationalRage9 Nope he's dead. But the Dark Horse comics followed a different path, and it's really cool, Newt grows out of her trauma to join an old Hicks in a brutal new generation of Colonial Marines designed only to kill Xenos
@@RationalRage9No true Alien fan considers that game to be canon. Hicks being alive is just cheap fan service.
I forgot you decide what fans should and shouldn't like@@joe-nz4xz
@@joe-nz4xzyou're an automation fan liking whatever you're told.
The music it's what made this movie good
And the cinematography
@@MrJohnybirchall They're a perfect combo.
Just like flatliners
@@RDXO17 Definitely.
The ost of alien 3 is definitely a character of the movie.
They don't make sci-fi movies like they used to. This intro alone really sets you in a mood.
What, they don't make crappy sci-fi movies anymore? What rock are you living under?
@@fakirpoo Do I have to explain to you what I was conveying by how the intro makes me feel?
@@parkmallbaby you're the one who made the statement that they don't make sci-fi movies like this anymore.
@@fakirpoo I like the vibe in the intro and I personally like 3 because it goes back to its claustrophobic horror roots and the soundtrack is also amazing. That is all.
@@fakirpooyeah,ok,calm down, we get it = YOU HATE A3 ! Chill down
This film got some mixed reviews, but if anyone who worked on the film is reading this, thank you making this brilliant film.
This was the last great Alien film, it got stupid after this.
Well luckily people have different opinions and I personally thought this was what killed the series I thought this movie was utter trash and all the movie since then have not been the best although I will say covenant was really good and I enjoyed that a lot.
@Clark Kent alien 3 was nothing but artsy garbage and it was rewrotein 20 times with 15 different cuts and none of them are any good at least covenant had one decent cut and it wasn't a horrible movie.
The problem with Covenant & Prometheus besides the plot is the CGI. It's just not as real of a film as Aliens and Alien.
@@bigdoinks69"artsy garbage"? Ok,everybody has their opinion...
But Covenant good???? Now that must be a joke...
@@bigdoinks69 "Well luckily people have a different opinion"? Why luckily? Because it aligns with your view point? Not that many people do, they just see the good in Alien 3.
Several of the lead works scenes were shot in san old power plant where I live, now demolished.
What they did to Newt not only undid everything we went through in Alien 2 but to also show that she died in pain and horror not sure if this was an insult to alien 2 or a brilliant choice.
Aliens is an insult to alien, but you don’t hear anybody ever bring that up. People need to get over newt and hicks dying. Alien3 is a great movie.
Not really@@borbafatt
@@themonologuer do tell
Alien 3 is an insult to the franchise and should be removed from existence.
@@usmanakhtar1845 alien3 is the third best film in the franchise. Other than your feelings, use evidence to provide why it should be removed.
In Aliens Colonial Marines "Stasis Interrupted", Dwayne Hicks was still alive. His dead body was got replaced by someone during the hyper sleep, but in the end of the game story Hicks remained too late to Save Ripley by watching her death scene in the ending of Alien 3... 😥😥
I absolutely love the sense of desolation and hopelesness that all Alien films convey.
I think the 2nd ended with a note of optimism
A cold and cruel universe
@@francinocasieri5073 It did; what makes Alien 3 such an effective emotional gut-punch is how it turned out to be all for nothing.
@sakunysz Nope. It wasn't effective at being emotional or a gut-punch. It turned out to not bear sharp enough teeth; far too concerned with rehashing the elements of the original.
@sakunysz And yet still, ultimately, it wasn't all for nothing. It found itself ending on a note of optimism, after all... albeit a shakily awkward one. Ripley stepping into the whole trite "Christ figure sacrifice" gag had us feeling as if she at least WON and got revenge for all those she cared about that died along the way... along with the satisfaction of knowing that this species was FINALLY rid from the universe.
looked like Newt was awake, as she was drowning. don't know if that is how they did it in the movie or if it was an effect for this video. if that is how it was in the movie, then I can understand even more the distaste of killing off Newt and Hicks. would have been better if she never woke up and just died in her sleep. here it looked like she was screaming and clawing at the glass.
Alien is a horror movie, the universe is dark, unforgiving and cruel. It's sad that both died, but the trauma ripely experiences as a result of newts death is central to her persona throughout the movie.
Just look at Hicks…he was impaled so bad that you couldn’t make out his face.
That shot of her face frozen in terror is horrifying 😱
@@SolarDragon1000well said I think it fits the the world and Ripleys trauma
@@SolarDragon1000yes alien is a horror movie and the world is dark and depressing, but if the cat manages to live in the first movie (and not die in the second), and the second movie manages to end on a sort of hopeful tone, that sort of proves that good things can happen right?
Whenever i feel sad, i watch Alien 3 to cheer me up.
The scene with the dog and the face hugger - masterpiece!
Time ?
@@1994glg 3:13
Not really, because doesn't the Face Hugger die off after it impregnates its host?
What's it doing running around forever face hugging and planting eggs in everything?
I don't think that's how the canon goes.
@@1994glgthey replaced it with a cow later on
@@jrag1000 actually it was suppose to be a queen face hugger, it lays a queen embryo in one host, and lays a drone in another, to prepare a hive for the queen.
These old space movies were so cool, so realistic.
Basically - because they had to do it themselves. With progress of Technology ― it becomes increasingly more expensive(mostly with relation to Time) to not just use a low quality Effect(CGI etc).
The same is true for everything else ― everything becomes low quality.
It's the Low Equilibrium - docs.google.com/document/d/1GCJlCn844x62IaP4ce2ADSu1M7cfMjLyrcZ0QqwdHAo/edit?usp=sharing
Realistic lmao what an idiotic thing to say
"old"... give me a break.
@@conatcha🙂👍👍👍
Oh please 😅
Dang Alien 3 really was a dark film. It deserves more credit than it got.
Absolutely!! People love to hate on this film because it's not Aliens 2.5 but the dark and depressing vibes are incredible.
David Fincher doesn’t disappoint with the dark themes.
I didn't really care for it, it was trying to be something that wasn't which was dark pretentious garbage.
@VV no kidding and it's always wannabe film guru's. The film tried to be artsy it tried to include a religious antidote and it failed miserably on all levels,I will say Charles S. Dutton's performance and Charles Dances performances were fantastic, although Charles dance should have been given more screen time, as far as the rest of the movie it was quite forgetable and pretty bad. They never really knew where they wanted to take the direction of the movie they couldn't even decide what the facehugger was going to burst out of, it's different in multiple versions of the movie that's how you know that the movie had no continuity.
I loved this movie the first time I watched it.
Alien3 is a piece of ART.
When Neil Blomkamp wanted to direct a sequel to Aliens that ignored the Alien 3 film and still featured Hicks and Newt, he got as far as the screenplay and nearly got a deal... then nothing. They'd have probably been fighting xenomorphs back on earth. The franchise has been cursed since Alien 3, I swear.
Blame Ridley Scott and his shity Covenant.
@@TheNowhereMan0 the rot started a few decades before that.
Alien Isolation has a better story than most sequels to Alien. The part where they go back to the space jockey ship for instance. Amazing! But you have to play a game to see it. Big cinema has eaten itself.
@@christianzilla Ridley kills Blomkamp's Alien 5
Ridley Scott is an arrogant dick that has never acknowledged Cameron's achievements, instead, he has been producing terrible prequels.
Ridley became jealous of the traction Neil’s film was getting and demanded covenant be filmed instead. Neil was so disappointed and angry since Ridley has basically supported the vision he abandoned the project completely. The premise was hicks and ripley return to earth and confront the WY corporation and discover their harboring and experimenting on the xenos. It sounded great but Neil is still so bitter over the experience he’s stated several times that ship has sailed. What a lost opportunity 😢
Very nicely done! I like your edit blending the two versions. Agreed the Assembly Cut is far superior and absolutely should have been what they put in theaters in 1992. Agreed the score by Elliot Goldenthal is bloody fantastic. Considering the hell this production was put through from story & script rewrites, director hirings/ firings, unyielding pressure, interference and meddling from outside, it's almost miraculous a film like the Assembly Cut came out of all that.
As an Alien film fan, I think Alien 3 is certainly not a bad film. It's certainly better than waiting for new Alien content.
the couldive make a better movie, you know that. but they made this presion movie instead.
I'd rather have Alien 3 than that Prometheus/Covenant crap, that's for sure.
@@AugustoV8Cesar The prison idea is a good idea.
There was some alternative script about a wooden planet which just sounds ridiculous.
The problem with Alien 3 was not explaining how the Alien got on board in the first place, which I'm astonished no one seems to point out.
@@JAWS-dn8fm I would assume (and from what i've heard with theories) is that at the end of Aliens the queen snuck an egg onto the ship because Ripley destroyed the hive. I think the queen did this to save the hive and keep the species alive which is why the alien inside Ripley in this film was a queen alien instead of a normal chestburster.
since Bishop was essentially an emergency pilot for the Sulacco maybe there was a second android onboard, with a mission to retrieve an egg & bring it back to the ship. since the marines didn't wake up until they reached LV426 maybe the actual Bishop went down there & got an egg. if theinstruction self deleted after completing the task Bishop wouldn't even know he'd been there. most likely when Bishop was crawling through the pipe to get to an uplink tower he had time to find an egg & stash it. they showed Ash got instructions from WY so Bishop could be receiving new instructions when he re-established a link with the Sulacco & Wayland Corp.
or. most likely.the queen laid an egg before Ripley killed it. the Royal Facehugger could create a starter colony - since there's a Queen & drone egg in one cute little hugger
It may not have been the Alien movie people wanted (especially at the time - I was as gutted as anyone that Newt and Hicks were written out...) but I think it's actually very good for other reasons despite it, and has stood the test of time very well. The movie is absolutely dripping with atmosphere, has a wonderful score and tells a great redemption story for many characters you initially write off as nothing more than pure scum (Dillon especially). It's positively a work of art compared to Resurrection and most of the tat released today.
I'm on both sides of this issue. I won't say Alien 3 doesn't have merit because it does and frankly the film has no right to be as good as it is given the hell the production went through and the assembly cut is closer to Fincher's original vision but on the other side, Aliens was about Ripley having a family again, a theme that resonates throughout from when she sees her daughter died of old age while she was in hypersleep, to the idea of Hicks and Newt being a tether in a world she no longer knows.
Then comes Alien 3 to kick you in the balls and says "Yeah but that's not how the story goes." The movie feels like one long tragedy for Ripley as once again, the aliens have taken everything she cared about then finds out she has one gestating inside her. There is no happy ending for her and her ending is dying and taking the queen chestburster with her to spite the company.
It's a decent movie.
A little depressesing but that doesn't make it bad.
I just don't think it is a very good sequel.
David Fincher is a great director I remember he was getting a heap of flack when this film was released and Sigourney Weaver came out swinging for him basically saying he had a lot of studio interference and to mark her words some day the world is going to see how good he really is.
Still don’t get it how facehugger showed up
A good movie still comes out every once in a while.
Sehe mir Alien 3 gerade auf DVD an. Alien 3 ist düster, aber sehr spannend. Einer der besten aus der Alien/Reihe. Grüße aus der Schweiz. Oktober 2024.
That was such an absolute shit way to start the movie with newt and hicks dead like wtf. Like two of these amazing characters just killed off screen and the rest of the movie we never get close to how good those characters were from alien 2 especially bishop.
Excellent job! I've always wanted to see an edited version of the assembly cut which still has the inclusion of the super/royal facehugger (since I think it's a great addition to the lore which helps resolve the one egg and two embryos issue) but sticks with the alien coming out of the dog because to me, given the size and appearance of the creature and how it moves, it makes a lot more sense for it to have come from a dog. I also wish the assembly cut kept the part with the queen chestburster coming out of Ripley at the end since, in my opinion, that made her death scene much more dramatic and impactful.
Agreed. I think the reshoots gives a more effective and dramatic touch to the EEV scenes were you get a proper view of what happened to everyone inside the EEV. And the assembly footage also provides a good view from outside. You dont want to miss either of those.
if you guys watch the workprint version there is an extended scene where Ripley plugs Bishop back to life and he confesses her he took the egg back to the Sulaco for further research. Since he was a Weyland Yutani android he had a secondary objective programmed in him to retrieve specimens unbeknownst to the rest of the crew. It's a shame they took that scene out of both cuts, it would finally answered how the egg ended up in the ship which had everyone debating about it for years.
@@acfan8253 fuck me. I did not know that
@@acfan8253 where can I find this?
Yes agreed.
I met Charles Dutton once and told him Alien 3 is one my favorite sci fi films, he seemed happy about that.
Dylan had one of the most badass death scenes in sci-fi history.
Charles Dance
The music that plays at 1:57 gives me chills.
Alien 3 is one of the great works in the history of cinema, but the film Aliens impressed me ten times more than the third part. This film could have won an Oscar, and I think it deserves it.
Too much controversy with Alien 3, killing Hicks and Newt was one of the biggest mistakes in cinema history and everyone for the most part agrees.
@@HellRaider19 Getting rid of dead weight is a mistake?
@@ShadowSonic2 I can't say Hicks or Newt would be considered dead weight, as they gave Ripley that nuclear family feel.
@@HellRaider19She didn't need that.
@@ShadowSonic2 maybe, maybe not. The xenomorph threat is tough for multiple people to deal with let alone one. I suppose it depends on what route you wanna go, action or horror.
Killing off Hicks was the worst mistake in movie making. Michael Biehn was a good actor and should have been in this movie all the way through and survived.
@@RationalRage9 Correct. Thats why the third movie makes no sense.
I think one of the worst things they did with this franchise was kill off Newt, Bishop, and Hicks. Off screen, especially. You had 4 characters, a little found family, that survived against impossible odds. Destroyed. Gone. It's just a downer. A major downer.
I'm not against isolating, sad tones. Or major character deaths. But to take them out off screen? Nah.
The opening 10 minutes destroys the ending of the previous and much more popular film. Heck, they even kill Ripley by the end of the thing.
And the only reason they did this is because they couldn't get Hicks & Newt's actors in this film (srs).
Idk, Newt was saved from a horrific death. Only to be placed into a less horrific death
@@milkman9560 she was a loudmouthed brat anyhoo
@@tsitracommunications2884 how tf? Her screaming a the sight of a horrific alien = loudmouth
@@milkman9560 yup. It's a wonder she didn't shred her voice cords
The dark and hopeless atmosphere of this movie still catches me today. Yes, Alien 3 is a bit underrated!
I remember feeling underwhelmed when I first watched this movie all those years ago. After watching it again recently nearly 30 years later it is truly phenomenal!!
Best in the franchise and my top 5 sci-fi films of all time. Much like the prequels and many other films like them, it was destined for what it became due to the majority audience and what they want out of a movie. Shame really.
@hazchem1 "Best" in the franchise? 😂😂😂🤣
@@hazchem1it’s poo …. A dark cold dusty big poo
The real Alien 3 is so much better than the theatrical version. It's like if half of the four hour Snyder thing was missing!
Interesting… I love the Snyder cut. I also like both versions of Alien 3. I feel they both have good and bad points. At least the theatrical cut didn’t destroy the movie or turn it into a silly joke like they did with JL though. I like the chest bursts ray the end of the theatrical and the dog scene too. I always feel fincher is too critical of the movie.
Ahhh......
Alien 3.....the beginning of the end of a movie franchise.
They begin with an instant classic with Alien.
They follow up with a solid action movie with Aliens.
Then the bed shitting begins....
And they've never been able to stop it.
What the hell is that thing at 2.36? Is that Hick’s face? Or what’s left of it?
Both openings still do not make sense, because In the AC, Ripley's pod is next to Hick's Destroyed Cryotube (The one with all the blood) but In the TC we see that Ripley is next to the hatch of the EEV and that Newt was in-between Hicks and Ripley, unless there is something I'm missing I think I'm overall right.
Its not clear since they dont show the entire row of cryotubes in either version. Hicks and Bishop are in the same place. Since Ripley is alive in the theatrical cut I removed that part to keep it similar. Newt should be closest to the door if I remember Aliens correctly and Ripley after that and then Hicks and Bishop.
@@daveruda yes but everybody forgets that the cryo-tubes were evacuated to the escape pod and they may have not ended up in the same position as they were in the spaceship.
Great edit. I've always wanted to take the time and do a "best of both worlds" kind of thing between the theatrical and special edition cuts.
Still holding out hope that we see Alien 5 sometime in the future. I don't hate 3 per se, but killing Newt and Hicks just makes it hard for me to like it. And don't even talk to me about Resurrection.
This is fantastically done... thank you!
I hope that one day Alien 5 will resume production and Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection will be confined to cryosleep nightmares
Why did the face hugger not come out and get anyone? The guys were all over that ship?
One of many plotholes
Aliens definitely a hard act to follow
This intro is better than the assembly cuts.
Brilliantly done my friend!
2:34 is brutal af
Killing off Hicks & Newt was just wrong, also if the face hugger was still active in the escape pod after the crash landing, how did it impregnate Ripley ?.
Newt sucked
It was a Superfacehugger, they can implant more than 1 alien in different hosts
EEV = Emergency Escape Vehicle
Emergency Execution Vehicle
I hated when they killed Hicks and newt in this movie Ripley's hard work didn't pay off.
Hicks ain't dead 👊🤛✊
Lets stay frosty! Yeah i wish that Alien 5 version where he was back was still under development
@@usgpillarofark3980 Disney might bring that back since they own the franchise now. Never say never. They saw how Covenant underperformed and Star Wars is pretty much on hiatus right now so they need something to make some $$$ now. Would be a good way for Disney to earn some good will if they decided to actually give the fans what they want ie a good Alien film for once that actually is on the same level of Alien and Aliens.
@@alucard624 With the right people involved that could be great. Though ill never trust Disney for such a projekt lol
@@usgpillarofark3980 I'm kinda glad that didn't happen considering Blomkamp has made District 9, 3 times now. That film would have just been another District 9 wrapped in aliens nostalgia. I have my issue's with this film, a lot of decisions where dumb but I've gotten over it and started to appreciate the good parts of film. If they do make an Alien 5 I'd rather they just move on with new characters instead of digging up dead ones and giving us a "how it should have ended" ending for them. Those types of films just feel like fan films with a budget.
@@topknot01 Fair point. I didnt like Districy 9 honestly plus Alien 3 has its fanbase. Though the movie has been rewritten so many times its easy to imagine a different product. And with the current state of modern cinema...It will never be good...
This movie was such an F U to the franchise
Where did the Alien egg on the Sulaco come from? Queen had no egg sack and no time to lay an egg anyway. The egg is shown not to be in the dropship landing gear well. The only place the Queen might have had time to deposit an egg.
The cryo pods on the Sulaco are the ones from the first Alien movie (Nostromo) not the ones they used on the Sulaco.
The Sulaco just happens to be within the gravity well of a habitable planet when it ejects the EEV.
Facehuggers can now impregnate a second time before dying. Goes against established lore.
Weyland Yutani arrive in the same class of spaceship as the Sulaco. Ok so maybe WY make them? But now it's capable of planetary landings. It's established in Aliens that dropships are necessary to get to and from the Sulaco to a planetary surface.
How did WY arrive so quickly to Fiorina 161? Seems like only a few days after Ripley arrived. Even if they had a ship nearby human Bishop just happened to be on it?
If WY wanted an Alien sample just go back to LV-426 to the space jockeys ship. Should still be there. The nuke explosion that destroyed the colony couldn't vaporize a ship that was so far away the colonists never found it for 20 years before Burke told them where to look.
All true my friend
Aliens ended in a good ending but there goes Alien3 that really kills everything
I could never understand why they killed off Hicks and Newt at the start of Alien 3. All that Ripley went through at the end of Aliens too rescue Newt.
Exactly also with hicks and Ridley building a duo and then newt to tag along just for it to all be trashed off the bat of the start
Like if newt got taken off world in a escape vessel mid way and Ripley says “I was here when it all started I’m not leaving till it’s done “ then shuts the ship door on newt and says something like “it’s see you soon baby” and obviously hicks says something like “I’m right here beside you” and like dies at the end I would have been fine with that but no just chop liver off the top of the movie.
Sadly that’s life sometimes. Things can catastrophically go wrong.
Newt was a useless loudmouthed brat that was deadweight for ripley
Because they weren't real characters, they were just plot devices
Imagine going through the hell of the Nostromo. Going back to LV-426 and go through another hell and then when you think you are safe you crash land in Australia. Poor Ripley.
Hicks got a horrible death
It was not Hicks. If you play the game Aliens: Colonial Marines
Hot Trash Alien 3 doesn't exist. Hicks is alive
To this very day, I still believe Alien 3 was almost one of the most brilliant sci-fi movies ever made. It feels like a final edit away from perfection. I'd love Fincher to revisit the film.
all they need is to put the alien coming out of her chest in to the assembly cut that would of made the film perfect
Newt's death was such a heartbreaker. everything she went through, getting saved at the last second by Ripley from the nest and the battle with the queen only to drown in her tube
When did Ripley get promoted?
The Assembly Cut is fantastic, completely different from the butchered theatrical version.
And Dillion is a more ultimate badass than Hudson. Truly iconic character.
3:11 This re edit seems to imply that the dog is on the crane with the men as it barks at the face hugger in the EEV. And that’s just silly
That's not Dwayne Hicks as proven in the Game Aliens: Colonial Marines DLC that it was some colonist that took his place in that pod. 1:59
I think I have never seen aliens 3. I need to watch it.
If it makes anyone feel better, in a DLC level of Aliens: Colonial Marines, it's revealed that Hicks actually escaped from the cyro pod from the help of two mercenaries, but unfortunately, one of the mercenaries ended up taking Hicks' place in the pod.
For now that's actually canon too until Disney (yep, Disney is now in charge of this franchise since they bought 20th Century Fox) says otherwise. Apparently they have plans for both Alien and Predator with new films in the works but nothing concrete right now. Hopefully they forego any more prequels with Ridley Scott and do something else with Alien since Covenant was meh.
@@alucard624 Covenant was so meh I’m not sure they will make more Alien movies. I heard there was an Aliens TV show that might happen.
@@Nflguy4949 really wish it’s a sci fi horror like the original Alien movie, instead of talking about creators those things
@@alucard624 Disney? They'll fuck it up.
That game isn't canon and it was trash so who cares
Nice cut mate. I hadn't seem some of that beach scene before.
If you think about it…Newt, Hicks, 157 colonists on LV426, and all the Colonial Marines that went to LV426 would have been better off if Ripley had been killed in the first film or if her ship had never been found. If Ripley had died in the first film then she wouldn’t be there to tell Burke about the Alien ship/eggs and Burke never tells colonists to look for it so Newt’s dad doesn’t get infected so the colony doesn’t get wiped out by Xenomorphs and the Colonial Marines are not sent to investigate. So Hicks and Newt never meet Ripley and don’t die in Cryotubes. Alien 3 makes Alien 2 pointless. Every single character on the Solaco and on LV426 in Aliens ends up getting killed.
Such is life.
-Ned Kelly
True, but my guess would be that eventually it would happen because another ship would get the distress signal from LV-426 and the same thing would probably happen if she died.
It was only a matter of time Ripley or not
Hicks an newt the brat died so ripley could live
How about there shouldnt be an alien 3 and Newt, Ripley and Hicks survived and reach planet Earth.
Ther are only 2 alien movies 1&2. This was a wreck. Could have been sooooo much better. Hicks needed to be in this.
If I ever get my hands on a screenplay for Aliens I’m writing in that Newt briefly woke up but then was snap frozen in the pod. Doctor falsified the report and the company picked her up after the events of 3. I’d use a doctored version of this shot specific.
Wow those escape pods sure did the trick didn’t they? 😂
I don't even know what Hicks turned into. Looks like inside out.
Believe me, you WON'T want to know. When I saw that part on 2:34, as I was getting ready to go to bed, I had to look away, because it nearly gave me nightmares.
he was impaled through his head & chest by a support beam.. :/
The last great Alien film. It beats Prometheous and Covenant hands down.
Two very bad movies, average acting and stupid characters.
Best Alien film ever & this is coming from someone that was obsessed with Aliens since the mid 90's as a 8 yr old boy yet this is my favorite of all three especially as I got older , I never found it as depressing when I first saw it back in 96 as much as I saw it disturbing, It is just as unique as the first two films except this one is far more realistic with basically everything except for the rod puppet scenes of the Alien running (no that's not CGI) & it also his the best & most iconic Xenomorph scenes of all the films in the entire series & it's the most graphic by far like literally it's more graphic than all the other 6 film all put together but it's all extremely realistic made of nothing except practical make up effects , no CGI when it comes to any of the violence whatsoever!!!! This film is the most brutally unapologetic Sci-fi horror thriller of all time hands down 💯
it's got some of the worst cgi ever.
@@OGboxing...it has NO cgi of whatsoever! What r u on about?
Watch the "making of" Alien3,and you'll find that there's only 1 cgi scene in all the film,and that is the ending shot where alien jumps out of the lead,and into the sprinkled water,and his head "en-crusts" then explodes! That is it.
Now therest of the scenes where alien looks crappy (it really does) is not cgi,but composing separate shots of rod-operated creature blended into film.
look harder @@leonefurlan137
@mattlawrence1932 hello there anyway The Thing (1982) is my number 1 favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien (1979) is my second favorite sci-fi horror movie and Aliens (1986) is my favorite third sci-fi action and horror movie and Alien 3 (1992) is my 4th favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien Resurrection (1997) my 5th favorite sci-fi horror movie as well:).
After watching Romulus Alien3 is Masterpiece
That movie started out okay, but if the last 1/3 of that movie wasn't a pile of schlock I dunno what is. I remember thinking around like the 70 minute mark, "OMG WOULD YOU JUST END ALREADY!?" Like it just kept going and going and going... and I'm assuming the studio execs at some point or Ridley was like, "Oh, you have to include references and callouts to Aliens, Alien: Resurrection, Prometheus and Covenant btw... so if you could just get on that..."
You can actually see the color tone around the last 1/3 of the film switch from the early on red hue to like a blue/Aliens like hue. I have to imagine it was reshot.
1:43
Clemence:
she drowned in her cryotube, I don't think she was
conscious when it happened...
Me :
i don't know Rick....
The beginning scene where the ship crashes into the sea is in my hometown Seaham Harbour Co Durham known locally as the blast as the beach was black from the dumping of coal slurry from the mines, it looks a lot nicer now
I think youd best close the comment section its getting out of hand and not all of the posts is my doing
So the alien queen brought some face huggers or eggs with her onto the shuttle they escaped on. Makes sense, survival instinct. Stupid for the crew to sleep without checking.
This movie was an insult to the two classics before it. No wonder Michael Biehn and Carrie Henn wanted nothing to do with this production. That's why Hicks and Newt were killed off. David Fincher has even said there is no way to salvage this train wreck.
athosphere is super APPOCALYPTIC
This is stupid, in this version it shows you there is an ox and a dog, no version has them both in it, it's either one or the other.
Everybody is hating on the death of Newt and Hicks - which i can understand - but after Ripley was drifting in space's emptyness for 57 years, this movie showed again just how scary space can be. Not to mention this sets up Ripley's sacrafice and the movie's tone perfectly.
One of the most insulting scenes in movie history.
It's not a happy franchise, never was, get over it
@@my2randomcents the entire point of those characters surviving at the end of the second film was to bring them back in later sequels, and this completely defeats that and rubs it in your face.
@@Supasmartguy that wasn't the"point"tho
there was no plan for future sequels, nor was it meant to become a"marvelish"franchise, alien 3 happened after they wanted to move back to the dreary and realistic traits of the universe
@@my2randomcents they absolutely had plans for future sequels. Alien 3 was in development hell since almost immediately after Aliens released. It went through so many script changes and rewrites that basically none of its original plot remained. This is proven by the fact that the film's first poster promised that the film would be set on Earth.
Regardless. I still love this movie and don’t mind the darkness of this sequence.
Fuck this movie for killing Newt.
And Bishop, Hicks and Ripley
Hated what they decided to do with Hicks and Newt. Blomkamp had the right idea with his Alien 5, too bad Ridley can't just retire and let us have our true Aliens sequel.
Yeah. Alien 3 and Resurrection shouldve been nothing more than bad dreams. Heck, you could even throw in a few actors from those movies that Ripley sees in her day to day life... like Ron Perlman. Take the whole dream concept really seriously
Newt is a brat anyhoo
@@LukeLovesRose No, that's lazy
@@ShadowSonic2 No. Its called replacing whats broken
@@tsitracommunications2884 This guy is literally going into any comment thread that mentions Newt and makes the comment he just made. Get a life dude.
1:24 - At first, I thought that's the facehugger hiding, but it's Hick's hand.
This all just felt so mean spirited to me that it soured me on the rest of the movie.
I never got exactly what happened to Hicks. The shot is a mess (and it's perfect). He has no head anymore, right ? Which part fell on him ?
A safety beam ironically crushed his head
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc Thanks !
I love alien3, both theatrical and cut, much more than aliens. The problem was the fanbase; they just wanted more pulse rifles and goofy lines while shooting space ants.
The music... is creepy.
Call me crazy, but I always dreamed of a (proper) video game based on Alien 3. Maybe it could be similar to Alien Isolation since there's only one beast. But also I'd love the game could have an adventure game quality and had very different endings, apart from the one in the movie. What if Newt or Hicks weren't dead, what if Ellen considered being operated and the queen's embryo would have been extracted from her, what if Ripley wasn't the impregnated one...
Why did they cut those scenes?
Not a very good escape pod.
Slams into the ground, no chutes.
Alien³ is brilliant, but it should have ended there.
The 3rd and Final Act alone with the Dog Alien hunting the prisoners as they tried to set the trap was intricate, gripping and terrifying. Running upside down, tthe camera panning in a circle and chasing on the ground like we're the alien was pulse pounding amazing! David Fincher had a unique style.
Alien 3 was supposed to be a planet filled with monks that were outcast of Weyland Yutani and anti technology, and wooden structures. Production of these structures were already made halfway when they pulled the plug on that story, and went with this story. They use back the same structures and repainted it.
Thé girl are rip off in thé ship no?? Later in thé movie her body are clean. ( Sorry for mistaks im frensh)