The Signs of a Doomed Relationship | Esther Perel

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  • @carriepriegel6477
    @carriepriegel6477 9 місяців тому +179

    Bored silly with 99% of the self help gurus/their repetitive pablum, Ms. Perel is so refreshing and wise; her guidance is practical and inspiring, her depth of knowledge is platinum & highest grade diamonds, in its rarity & priceless value.💖

  • @heathersohappy2833
    @heathersohappy2833 8 місяців тому +191

    45:45 addresses the issue of when to end the relationship

    • @rebeccajones8628
      @rebeccajones8628 8 місяців тому +9

      Thank you.

    • @helenaquin1797
      @helenaquin1797 8 місяців тому +24

      I didn't really hear the answer except for her to say her answers are dependent on the context of the person or people.

    • @kapler79
      @kapler79 8 місяців тому +18

      Neither of them actually address this.

    • @jamilahtigner9009
      @jamilahtigner9009 6 місяців тому +13

      @@helenaquin1797 From what I recall, the only concrete example she provided was a couple in which one person puts forth effort to improve the relationship while the other person does not. She suggests that that kind of relationship is certainly doomed, and that she has seen some of those in her office when it becomes clear that one partner is only participating in therapy in hopes of "fixing" the other person yet isn't willing to also look at themselves and take steps to repair the relationship.

    • @happiness4541
      @happiness4541 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you

  • @shellshelly5552
    @shellshelly5552 9 місяців тому +587

    I believe that this wonderful, beautiful, intelligent lady, is one of the most interesting people I’ve ever listened to.

    • @CrystalDatingCoach
      @CrystalDatingCoach 9 місяців тому +13

      Yes I agree!! 😊

    • @gigicochiante1305
      @gigicochiante1305 9 місяців тому +9

      Me too omg I love the way she explains things and uses her hands when talking

    • @antonroux6737
      @antonroux6737 9 місяців тому +1

      you need to get out more

    • @single_daddin_it
      @single_daddin_it 8 місяців тому

      @@antonroux6737no need to rain on someone else’s parade, friend. I try and just move along if I don’t agree. However, I fully agree that this woman’s insight is very valuable. A lot of people don’t have the knowledge and experience to navigate toxic relationship dynamics.

    • @Becoming_undone
      @Becoming_undone 8 місяців тому +8

      Same!!! she is the full embodiment of what a hero looks like to me. I’m consistently astounded by the brilliance that just naturally flows from her and the ease in which she translates human behaviors to root issues.

  • @Nature-w4k
    @Nature-w4k 9 місяців тому +67

    I love this lady!!! She is the most intelligent, insightful, “GET IT” woman. Thank you Esther!!

  • @CatCassandra
    @CatCassandra 8 місяців тому +21

    Esther is the Contessa of compassion and kindness. I would give anything to have her giving advice to senior couples. Specially when they start at 62-65

  • @dachater1
    @dachater1 6 місяців тому +19

    I love what she says about lying horizontal during an argument and humour! Humour is such an important salve in a relationship. The person who brings that brings a gift! Also not about arguing better but relating better.

  • @heathersohappy2833
    @heathersohappy2833 8 місяців тому +34

    Esther's closing comment is the introduction of a whole new conversation that I would love to listen to and engage in! "We talk about loneliness. We talk about suicide. We talk about breakdowns of institutions. We talk about how the burden of self has never been heavier. But when we talk about it like that it feels very abstract. When you look at the life of actual people, (especially younger people, as I do), it warrants attention."

  • @billpetersen298
    @billpetersen298 3 місяці тому +2

    The whole part about choosing to thrive, after horrendous trauma. Is so amazing.
    My wife is so scared to open herself, to joy, laughter, sex. It results in being sick, and unhappy.
    (Not fulfilled).
    The plastic wrapped couch.
    This talk is inspiring.
    ❤️
    Love you all.

  • @AlexFromToronto
    @AlexFromToronto 8 місяців тому +9

    Is there such thing as a bad podcast featuring Esther? She is brilliant. Too many bookmarked videos that have been immensely helpful. She has worked hard to get here - that itself is inspirational.

  • @znieszka
    @znieszka 9 місяців тому +21

    Jordan, Thank you for Clarifying about Polish citizens who were also persecuted and died in WW2. I really appreciate this, I am a Polish citizen, and Polish Jews suffered emancly at the hands of Germans. However, the war affected everyone and 3 million Polish citizens died in WW2 and 3 million Polish Jews were killed at the hands of Germany!

    • @kitgin4504
      @kitgin4504 9 місяців тому +8

      Blame the warmonger Churchill who betrayed you

    • @kapler79
      @kapler79 8 місяців тому +2

      The soviets drew the Polish blood.

    • @JordanHarbingerShow
      @JordanHarbingerShow  6 місяців тому

      you're welcome. thank you for listening and for this comment.

  • @martianmoongdds
    @martianmoongdds 7 місяців тому +7

    Wonderful. Finally someone asking Esther questions about herself and her background. Thank you so much.

    • @JordanHarbingerShow
      @JordanHarbingerShow  6 місяців тому +1

      thanks for noticing this! interesting people almost always have a very interesting past, yet most folks ignore this.

  • @munimuni1385
    @munimuni1385 9 місяців тому +25

    Thank you Esther! I never get tired of listening to you. You are wise and fun and very courageous. We need more of you!

  • @jasminegarcia1046
    @jasminegarcia1046 8 місяців тому +9

    I really loved the plastic couch metaphor. Such a beautiful way of understanding not only relationships but it’s relevant to how you view your life in general. What a great analogy from her personal life. Thank you for sharing!

  • @AmusedPineTrees-wh1ed
    @AmusedPineTrees-wh1ed 5 місяців тому +2

    It's a treasure to learn of Esther Perels childhood and circumstances of her parents. Thank you.

  • @rsaha1796
    @rsaha1796 8 місяців тому +7

    This amazing lady has a life of ger own .
    She is a great healer.
    A great inspiration to life.

  • @Bchristensen
    @Bchristensen 6 місяців тому +33

    Thumbs down because the click bait title. The conversation barely covers this.

    • @anineavenant375
      @anineavenant375 Місяць тому +1

      Not really. If you're not hearing the relation to the heading, then it makes sense you would need to listen to something like what's stated. She answers it in more than one way. Maybe just not what you want to hear. As she turns the responsibility back to you and makes one look at yourself.

  • @cupcake0480
    @cupcake0480 8 місяців тому +8

    Alan Robarge - a psychologist and couples therapist (he has videos on UA-cam) has some brilliant insights into how we fool ourselves into staying in destructive relationships. And on attachment styles and attachment wounds.

  • @conniekeyse
    @conniekeyse 5 місяців тому +1

    Esther is beautiful and brilliant. I always walk away from her talks with insights and a new perspective. Thank you for this amazing conversation. 💖

  • @Spiritfba
    @Spiritfba 8 місяців тому +41

    No mention of compulsive porn obsession that is ruining so many relationships. When is society going to start talking about this? It’s the elephant in the room and everyone is too brainwashed or ashamed to bring it up.

    • @jeanannedupratt7075
      @jeanannedupratt7075 8 місяців тому +3

      Not sure it is the elephant in the room. Besides, Esther is addressing couple problems, not individual ones.
      Masturbation or voyeurism does fit into a less mature level of adult life. Don't you think ? Many women (maybe even men) put up with this, reasoning immaturity on the part of their partner, maybe even shyness. When bringing it out into the open and discussing it together is healthier. Or suggesting therapy, for each partner as well as couple therapy. Or agreeing to whatever fits their individual needs.

    • @AdrianaCowick
      @AdrianaCowick 4 місяці тому +3

      @donaldjohnson-ow3kquh no 🤣

    • @AdrianaCowick
      @AdrianaCowick 4 місяці тому

      @donaldjohnson-ow3kq I don’t have to be a man to understand that using porn is only harming yourself. People watch porn because we live in a fallen world where we call good evil and evil good. Pornography is evil. It destroys peoples minds and that’s exactly where satan himself wants you. It’s a lust issue. A heart issue. Which can only be mended by Jesus Christ. If you put your faith in Jesus and believe He died for your sins and was resurrected defeating death, you have the promise of eternal salvation with God our Father in Heaven. All you have to do is believe and you’re sealed forever. And when we’re in Heaven, there will be no suffering and no pain and no pointing the finger at one another saying “we only put up with you because of sex!” That’s a heart that has grown cold and only Jesus can heal that 🤍 It’s no one genders fault it’s just our sin nature and the evidence of our flesh.

    • @ElleJeane_
      @ElleJeane_ 3 місяці тому

      Addiction to porn is an form of escapism, like alcohol, drugs, to avoid feeling, Dr K covers this in his channel, @healthygamerGG

  • @aegliv1589
    @aegliv1589 Місяць тому

    Incredible analysis.
    I want to add that in order to approach our partner first of all we must come with good will and they too. Is also known that we replicate our first family's learned behaviours, so we are basically doomed if we are not aware of that.

  • @penelopecarrington2337
    @penelopecarrington2337 9 місяців тому +24

    As interesting as this is, the title is misleading. We're not advised when relationships are doomed...

  • @Charity1277
    @Charity1277 9 місяців тому +33

    I hear men saying to their wives " clean up this house"!. But they never ask their wife if they can help or can they hire a maid to help her.many women are overwhelmed with the mess from the children and they need help.

    • @wyleecoyotee4252
      @wyleecoyotee4252 9 місяців тому +1

      Shouldn't be any surprise why women are choosing the single life

    • @johnfatorich3494
      @johnfatorich3494 9 місяців тому +3

      Shouldn't have to say it, you don't let it get to that point. Maintain cleanliness. Team effort.

    • @sunmoonstars3879
      @sunmoonstars3879 9 місяців тому +10

      Yeah if you’re a mother who can focus solely on the family (ie not working outside the home for an external source) then keeping everything running smoothly shouldn’t be an issue as long as she’s physically and emotionally fit, healthy and resilient; with a husband who’s providing security, kindness and generosity - women need to feel safe and secure to thrive. If she’s expected to behave like a man and earn money for an external entity, then how on earth is she going to have the mental and physical capacity to maintain the home? Men and women are very different species and right now that’s not being recognised and women are really struggling, and men aren’t happy either.

    • @jnwest2029
      @jnwest2029 8 місяців тому +2

      @@johnfatorich3494if you’re shouting at your wife to clean up this house. That’s a demand for her to comply. It’s not a team effort. Men need to clean up their own homes and stop expecting women who also work to do it all.

    • @Alnivol666
      @Alnivol666 8 місяців тому +3

      @@jnwest2029 Nobody is expecting them to do it all. In fact, women today...modern women do very little but expect a lot. We are not living in the 70's. Women have never been as lazy as they are today. Also, if you both are working, get a freaking maid once a week or two weeks.

  • @doviejames
    @doviejames 7 місяців тому +1

    "Protect the relationship" made it impossible for me to come to terms with my ex's covert selfishness and profound disinterest in my well being. When I finally stopped doing that it didn't very long for her to make everything clear. I can't blame her for being who she is, my only regret is I didn't stop protecting the relationship 15 years earlier.

  • @sarah4841
    @sarah4841 6 місяців тому +3

    Such a great conversation!
    Love love love her!!!
    Thank you🙏🙏❤️

  • @kacake
    @kacake 8 місяців тому +3

    Yes, this is true, when a husband hurts his wife, he is hurting himself, and vice versa. Your input determines your output. When you appreciate the strength first then suggest to improve on weakness and in the end close by saying, your relationship is better than you and I... If you have same belief, never break up, if you don't have the same belief, leave each other.

  • @anniemac7545
    @anniemac7545 Місяць тому

    I love that your husband chose an Australian accent on GPS Siri....I'm Australian and thought it sounded very broad and grating...so thank you!

  • @collective_tarot
    @collective_tarot 9 місяців тому +6

    I loooooove Esther Perel !!!!

  • @RyannCohn
    @RyannCohn 3 місяці тому

    This unbelievable inspiration is truly life-changing and ridiculously brave. She makes me want to be brave, or at least learn how to be.

  • @coutureleotards
    @coutureleotards 9 місяців тому +4

    Ester please come to the @Highly Initiated podcast. Your work has helped me tremendously in changing my opinions and views of the hurt of adultery. He claimed he was going through a midlife crisis so when you say its not about you its about him. It was so valid! I healed faster because I understood my part and his part in the divorce. I still cut his 🍑 off 😂 but I wasn't angry anymore about an adult making a choice that was contrary to my beliefs and values. I don't hold on to that pain anymore because true peace is so much better for my health. While all humans benefit from Esters explanation of relationships the black community as small as it is in the US is lacking any idea of the concepts of relationship, monogamy and the mindset needed to even consider marriage.

    • @Lindseyro
      @Lindseyro 9 місяців тому +3

      Sadly nowadays most of/ many of our cultures are lacking these concepts and relationship values etc etc. . . I totally understand where u are coming from. & We all deserve happiness, love, excitement, honesty, loyalty, genuineness, and the list goes on... I hope each and everyone of us who might be struggling or having issues in this department, I hope we all reach that good sweet spot one day, sooner than later. & As i/we grow older n more wise, more n more is starting to make sense n open my eyes n mind to an updated more mature perspective look on everything involving this complicated subject. The precious thing called "relationship life".

    • @coutureleotards
      @coutureleotards 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Lindseyro All of that 💯😆 I totally agree with you and yes wisdom and growth has truly changed my perspective on my relationship with me and then any over flow I can share with others. I care enough for myself and other humans to take the time to fill my own cup first. All over the internet toxic relationships are the most viewed. It's good to know there are people healing and seeking some rational in this crazy thing called Love 🤣💖

  • @angierucinski5694
    @angierucinski5694 Місяць тому

    That was absolutely fascinating
    Thank you Jordan, it was the most interesting thing I've listened to in ages.

  • @janeshelswell3313
    @janeshelswell3313 4 місяці тому +1

    What a fantastic and insightful interview!

  • @mullraerae299
    @mullraerae299 7 місяців тому

    No, we weren't meant to live like this, absolutely spot on, and yet we carry on living like this, don't live with your partner, end of, sadly most cannot afford to live like that.

  • @pino_de_vogel
    @pino_de_vogel 5 місяців тому +7

    A relatrionship is doomed when one of you don't want to fight and change/compromise anymore. It's not rocket science. Words don't matter actions do.
    Here saved you 80 minutes :) spend it doing something nice for your partner.

    • @karinesavard2016
      @karinesavard2016 4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks 👍🤗💯

    • @JillCox-mm9un
      @JillCox-mm9un 2 місяці тому +1

      Sometimes the words said to them, critical and mean words are the reason a person no longer wants to try anymore. The reason they check out.

    • @pino_de_vogel
      @pino_de_vogel 2 місяці тому

      @@JillCox-mm9un Then the person is not worthy as that's a single person issue. If you can't take critique you are not mature enough for a relationship.

  • @ambercozzinowak
    @ambercozzinowak 7 місяців тому +2

    Wonderful. Watched to the last minute.

  • @enarcadie1105
    @enarcadie1105 4 місяці тому

    She's brilliant and amazing in all she says and does.

  • @asset34
    @asset34 8 місяців тому +9

    Nothing about identifying a doomed relationship here…

  • @wendyhopkins4045
    @wendyhopkins4045 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes!! Simply ask what your wife truly wants … probably a break !

  • @CrystalDatingCoach
    @CrystalDatingCoach 9 місяців тому +7

    First Rule don't bring up things from Last month or last year. It's Irrelevant. Talk about NOW. Why your angry now.

    • @lesliewelch2890
      @lesliewelch2890 6 місяців тому +1

      I mean, if one does not make room to validate and hear what their partner was upset about, the issue does not go away. If it keeps coming up, you haven’t made space for them to feel heard.

    • @sussannekeith5676
      @sussannekeith5676 Місяць тому

      Yes, stop with the history…

  • @MitchL4yt
    @MitchL4yt 2 місяці тому

    This is such a brilliant learning topic .

  • @kapler79
    @kapler79 8 місяців тому +1

    Monogamy is the reason we enjoy a great standard of living.

  • @fredb2517
    @fredb2517 2 місяці тому

    This was such a rich conversation

  • @chereeburtner4659
    @chereeburtner4659 9 місяців тому +14

    I think Jordan needs to learn to do laundry and take some chores from his wife. Sounds like he won't do washing his washcloth for 3 months if she didn't do it. He's an adult, do adult tasks. Help with the kids,etc. He should ask her, how can I help?

    • @camellia8625
      @camellia8625 8 місяців тому +4

      Even better, just see what needs to be done and tackle some of it.

    • @Liesh_K
      @Liesh_K 4 місяці тому

      Jordan needs to learn a lot of things beyond himself.

  • @zztop8592
    @zztop8592 5 місяців тому

    I think we all live day to day knowing that tomorrow could be our last day on this planet.

  • @Inspiration_Connect
    @Inspiration_Connect 3 місяці тому +1

    EP is switched on

  • @oderatheartist1994
    @oderatheartist1994 5 місяців тому

    Hello Esther, i totally love your talks.

  • @kaylabryson1932
    @kaylabryson1932 8 місяців тому +6

    Jordan, take her advice!! Give wife alone time !! Time off! Many stay at home mothers don’t get much time off.

  • @catherinedao1592
    @catherinedao1592 8 місяців тому

    Very useful advices. She is great, vey intelligent lady.

  • @marcusmagnificus1984
    @marcusmagnificus1984 5 місяців тому +2

    Great explanation. Still, cheating is cheating.

  • @erinloo8921
    @erinloo8921 8 місяців тому +1

    He sats he doesnt want to talk then he cannot stop. Tedious

  • @xawki
    @xawki 7 місяців тому

    Thank you! You are inspiring.

  • @caringforall4454
    @caringforall4454 4 місяці тому

    The excuses of needing adventure, wanting a different life, unhappy with responsibilities or boredom are all superficial.
    You need to dig down to get to root of infidelity- usually attachment issues or sexual abuse from childhood

  • @Nexus2UAll
    @Nexus2UAll 3 місяці тому +2

    'Monogamy has been an imposition on women'. So I guess she's against monogamy, did I hear that correctly?

  • @sussannekeith5676
    @sussannekeith5676 Місяць тому

    Grass is not always greener … sometimes it can be full of pests…..

  • @quynhvu2381
    @quynhvu2381 6 місяців тому +1

    I am going on adventures with my current boyfriend. We will have fun together. I am not committed to him as a caretaker of his family and he is not going to be my daughter’s step father. We are in the relationship just for ourselves. We don’t live together yet so we have a lot of independent time to grow. I value “me” time

    • @reyoart1766
      @reyoart1766 4 місяці тому

      You waste each other time. Free one each other

    • @quynhvu2381
      @quynhvu2381 4 місяці тому

      I have grown so much as a single mom being there for my kid. I don’t believe in step families or blended families. I feel that my relationship with my boyfriend is irrelevant to her. As long as I am happy I choose to be in the relationship and if it’s not happy relationship, I can leave and that will not affect my kids he can do the same thing. I did big memorable trips with my kid without him. He is like a security place for me to do more for myself and to be the best version of myself. I travel with him and go on adventures with him separately and build memories for ourselves

    • @reyoart1766
      @reyoart1766 4 місяці тому

      @@quynhvu2381 It appears to me that you do not know the meaning of "grow". Soon as we have a child we HAVE to secure an emotional safe environment for our children. You just CUT the father figure from your child life and you think is good for NOT committing. How old are you? Happy sane relationships are based on emotional connections, strong values and true feelings, love etc. There is no more YOU, adventures as you put it. I hope that beautiful soul, your child to learn when the time will come the real commitment between women and men. You are NOT a good example for your child and your behavior will expose him to suffering.
      May God bless your child path and lead him to a good life.

    • @quynhvu2381
      @quynhvu2381 4 місяці тому

      The beauty of it is she has a great relationship with her biological dad. I encourage that relationship. My dating fun life is icing on the cake just for me. My kid is a secure individual A plus student and happy outgoing. I think it is because of the secure environment that she has growing up with the constant presence of her mother. She doesn’t move back and forth between 2 households like most kids after the parents divorce.

    • @reyoart1766
      @reyoart1766 4 місяці тому

      @@quynhvu2381 you refuse to see the reality. You have your eyes wide shut

  • @dsabey2274
    @dsabey2274 5 місяців тому

    It depends on what you consider growth

  • @JillCox-mm9un
    @JillCox-mm9un 2 місяці тому

    Self development used to come through self sanctification.

  • @margaritajohns7907
    @margaritajohns7907 4 місяці тому

    People get married for reasons and they need to fight and work for this reasons. Life is not generally easy so it makes us grow more successful when we are in it not looking for a greener grass that does not belong to us. Yea I am a naturally internal monogamist. We can become a new version of our selfs together and grow as Family ❤🎉

  • @KellyAlbright-tg9kz
    @KellyAlbright-tg9kz 4 місяці тому

    Happy to come back to one of the OG's of the modern podcast format. Jordan always brings logic and objectivity and looks at things like motivation, behavior, data and not new age occult "law of attr*ction" bah-loney like most of the others do these days.

  • @andreatorluemke4982
    @andreatorluemke4982 5 місяців тому

    Exactly. Giving the benefit of the doubt.

  • @lesliewelch2890
    @lesliewelch2890 6 місяців тому +1

    Ok this is all excellent, but can we just address the fact that she suggested mashed potatoes are -not- the good food? 😂

  • @wardeggerrobertmarius144
    @wardeggerrobertmarius144 9 місяців тому +3

    No butterflys?! Butterflys?!That's got nothing to do with love. That's tril seeking, like wanting to spend your life on a roller coaster.😂🤷

  • @kristinestep6507
    @kristinestep6507 8 місяців тому +1

    ❤ Amazing as always ❤️

  • @robinpiccard886
    @robinpiccard886 4 місяці тому +1

    Fo men often act irratible and angry when they are acting out

  • @jessica11381
    @jessica11381 2 місяці тому

    24:44 26:56 30:40 36:36 40:38 57:37

  • @tomkarnes69
    @tomkarnes69 8 місяців тому +1

    She was 38, never married, hanging with friends and co-workers the night we met, I was a little older, with zero entanglements. Thirteen years on, she is still living at home (her mortgage co-signed with parents) 95% social calendar full, nucular family first, friends network second, my place was dead last, which I was accepting. But, I'm not a monk sitting on a hot rock in the lotus position waiting my turn, giving me some free time to chit chat with other girls. My read of the situation is she wanted back to her "Safe Place" with her nuclear family, a toxic cancel culture including defriending inlaws on Facebook, purging my phone number, and when she didn't respond to the 24/7 family text stream for a two hour period, sent an email asking me if I knew her whereabouts Lol... took the high road and answered politely. Some people will never grow up and leave home.

    • @roses6564
      @roses6564 8 місяців тому

      Nucular? Satire or serious? :)

  • @ginam.4990
    @ginam.4990 7 місяців тому

    I think people, not all, will believe this cheating explanation of hers, the ones that are afraid. I do not believe you can get back to where you were before the cheating in terms of trust.

  • @jlied0368
    @jlied0368 4 місяці тому

    In my 25 year marriage, we had financial security, humour shared interests and personal interests, lots of personal freedom. A man who wants to cheat multiple times within a marriage like this, is as she said " it's all about him". Someone's need for admiration /adoration through sex with whoever shouts self insecurity and an empty soul that cant be filled. Why do sex addicts and compulsive liars marry at all??

  • @sussannekeith5676
    @sussannekeith5676 Місяць тому +1

    Women cheat in very different ways… it’s subtle, but deadly…. no one notices until it is too late. No it’s not about sex…. It’s very, very different and much more intense if it happens.

  • @juanitarichards1074
    @juanitarichards1074 10 місяців тому +1

    Lol, I have at least a dozen wash cloths so everybody has a clean one. I wash them all once a week and there re always clean spare ones.

  • @gerardpardeilhan7418
    @gerardpardeilhan7418 9 місяців тому +1

    Dear Esther, you need a better camera mount. The image was shaking as you moved or leaned on the desk. Merci pour votre travail! -Gérard en Californie

  • @sussannekeith5676
    @sussannekeith5676 Місяць тому

    She has to ask him to help her…… duuuuh… he has no clue😮

  • @darlaswann9500
    @darlaswann9500 8 місяців тому +3

    Yikes, the host looks young but seems to have a very trad marriage and does not get the burden his wife is under.

  • @tracyleighbasham
    @tracyleighbasham 3 місяці тому +2

    This host is a fn TOOL.

  • @vikingsailorboy
    @vikingsailorboy 2 місяці тому

    Why would you out your friend and mention his name for taking a session with Esther? Discretion, bro.

  • @charlesd3024
    @charlesd3024 8 місяців тому

    She said it “family pets in-laws are not our natural state “

  • @catsmith7084
    @catsmith7084 Місяць тому

    Have a fantastic time , while you ‘re not present with the kids and all you do is golf and drink . Yeah , have a great time ! This is not good advice . They have to establish if they want to be parents , providers , etc some men just want this . If they want to be free, free them up with a divorce

  • @ginam.4990
    @ginam.4990 7 місяців тому +1

    Feel bad for his wife, he's clueless

  • @christa526
    @christa526 Місяць тому

    I was SHOCKED that this person Jordan spent so much time talking when he could have been listening to the genius of Esther Perel. What a putz

    • @susancampbell5948
      @susancampbell5948 Місяць тому

      Listen to examples I think your being unreasonable in your opinion

  • @peacelove7706
    @peacelove7706 9 місяців тому +3

    VERY MUCH A BAIT TITLE! Ughhhhhh SMH… 5 seconds of signs you should leave…. And it was only 1 sign…..

  • @fruitdemer201
    @fruitdemer201 6 місяців тому

    there are people especially men with difficult personalities who do not suit any relationship because you are never good enough for them....them being quite immature or bossy please run away from this type

  • @atkeeler
    @atkeeler 9 місяців тому +360

    She takes an Anthropology approach to intimate relationships. She knows 9 languages & very European in cultural style. Americans need more therapists like her!!

    • @hedgedrisk
      @hedgedrisk 8 місяців тому +8

      when youre European, "knowing" multiple languages is like a NYer understanding somebody from Louisiana...thats not a flex

    • @coutureleotards
      @coutureleotards 8 місяців тому +5

      Very true, as much as Americans hate to say it our culture is a mix of many cultures. What's great about her research is we all seem to have the same relationship issues 😆

    • @jeanannedupratt7075
      @jeanannedupratt7075 8 місяців тому +2

      ​You are joking, aren't you ? Or just being cynical.

    • @dorothea_walland
      @dorothea_walland 8 місяців тому +7

      yet she is never condescending and cold. she always tries to use her wisdom to help. that is true love and compassion. ❤

    • @gabrielleaumont3971
      @gabrielleaumont3971 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@hedgedrisk
      Yes, it is. You obviously don't speak any. And parroting a few foreign phrases doesn't count.

  • @74777984
    @74777984 7 місяців тому +45

    The advice your guest gives is related to partners who are decent people. My partner of 11 years has turned out NOT to be decent. I treated him all along as if he was a decent person, e.g. giving him freedom to go & meet friends, take trips abroad alone, etc. because i believed that sort of freedom to be healthy in a relationship. He had at least one affair that I know of, over a 2 year period. He met the person during those hours of freedom. I realise now that it was a mistake to trust that he was capable of being faithful. Your advice does not relate to those who are not decent humans. Unfortunately these types are master con artists, making them difficult to spot. The situation is still raw & very difficult to cope with. I hope that i can get through it.

    • @expressdual1
      @expressdual1 3 місяці тому +4

      same situation here, gave partner all the freedom they needed, also for their work, I was always supportive and happy on his behalf. Only for me to find out about the multiple affairs , physical and emotional, years later. I am shattered

    • @varsha9094
      @varsha9094 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@expressdual1I'm sorry that you have to go through this and are you his OWNER to grant them the freedom? Was that ownership or partnership?

    • @tveleruusk
      @tveleruusk 2 місяці тому +2

      @@varsha9094 I think you are missing the point the person is making. You can only apply these lessons in an environment where there is trust. If you don’t have trust because your partner is effectively untruthful or has no empathy to hold you safe, then none of this really applies.

    • @Sparkrootwild2023
      @Sparkrootwild2023 Місяць тому +3

      It always applies. Without freedom there is no being chosen. The problem then, when respecting another persons freedom, is to know they may be selfish or irresponsible with it and betray you. I don’t choose to be caging men so they don’t hurt me. Freedom 100% and if a betrayal happens, it’s the pain of the necessary ending that comes with contempt and lack of respect for their character. This is the price of relationship. It comes with life: there are no guarantees.

    • @rossschcheese
      @rossschcheese Місяць тому +1

      Nah she talks about this if you keep watching

  • @jenreis3887
    @jenreis3887 9 місяців тому +70

    ‘The old ball and chain’ always was pure projection…. Historically it has been and oftentimes still is women who are completely tied down and expected to live a very different standard of life than men. I grew up Roman Catholic and lived it!!

    • @williamweb9782
      @williamweb9782 9 місяців тому

      Are religion and monogamy automatically entwined?

    • @Peem_pom
      @Peem_pom 8 місяців тому

      @@williamweb9782quite

    • @Puuws
      @Puuws 8 місяців тому +2

      yep men just have a way harder time giving up sleeping around and taking responsibility that comes with a family. They trow a fit if there is too much asked of them and accuse the other off wining when they are just asking for a fair devide. Church and other religions somehow reinforced that by almost suggesting women should serve their man, while that should be God

    • @jenreis3887
      @jenreis3887 8 місяців тому

      Religion and monogamy are absolutely entwined…except that monogamy applied ONLY to the female….Catholicism is rife with hypocrisy and double standard. Women are taught to ‘serve her man’ and expect nothing in return….she’s lucky if he’s a good provider. If he’s an alcoholic who doesn’t work too bad…divorce is NOT permitted. If he beats her, that’s his choice she can not leave. She can not take birth control, she can not have abortions and she can NOT say no to sex. She can not get an education or a job, have a bank account, etc….that was the life of my grandmothers!!! I’m born in 1975….so this is not very long ago. Men set the tone for relationships even still…due to the past legacy of heterosexual unions. If a woman was ‘lucky’ she got a decent husband…otherwise too bad. Patriarchy needs to be dismantled completely as it does not serve either gender. Blessings to all the men brave enough to tear down these walls…us women have been working at it for a long time and we need you to do your part. These red pill dudes are just trying to grasp onto threads of male toxicity and patriarchy….the brave ones take a stand against that mindset!

    • @freeman8759
      @freeman8759 7 місяців тому

      So what it to be said of the marriage/monogamy/exclusivity ultimatum, that is usually imposed by women? Its odd to hear these takes, but never see it. It would seem the remedy is simply a "No" to a proposal and guts to stand on the decision, in the Western world.

  • @ThuyHuynh-ue3yc
    @ThuyHuynh-ue3yc 9 місяців тому +125

    Thank you Esther, in one podcast, you’ve pinpointed and helped me see the reasons behind my marital fights. Esther = all fights are for power & control, respect & validation, and care & kindness.

  • @Joy-mm3cz
    @Joy-mm3cz 8 місяців тому +31

    I love Ester P. I have followed her and her work for 4 yrs now. I have her books, podcasts and game. She has transformed my relationships, both professionally and social.

  • @andreacravinhos9603
    @andreacravinhos9603 9 місяців тому +29

    Where have you been all my liffe⁉️ 😄❤
    On my 3rd marriage. It's finally the right one. We're not in trouble - we believe in relationship psychology and maintenance. And, no surprises here, as a woman who has struggled with some of the things you're talking about, and felt that I died in previous relationships, I'm especially interested in this conversation.
    "Humor and playfulness" - Yes‼️‼️‼️‼️❤

    • @kapler79
      @kapler79 8 місяців тому

      How much money did you make from the divorces?

    • @andreacravinhos9603
      @andreacravinhos9603 7 місяців тому +3

      @kapler79 None. Absolutely none. Got taken advantage of the first time, and the second time, I refused to ask for anything.

    • @sharonjoan9997
      @sharonjoan9997 4 місяці тому +1

      @@kapler79such a show of who you are. You did not deserve an answer

  • @kaylabryson1932
    @kaylabryson1932 8 місяців тому +28

    I can’t believe this, true love .. people are this far away from true love? If you need a side life (betrayal) you haven’t developed true love with partner. Yes, You should be fulfilling your own goals, etc, however if it involves betrayal… there’s not true love there. Just selfishness, self centeredness, immature, etc.

    • @ginam.4990
      @ginam.4990 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree. It's many excuses given here. Still she has some valid points.

    • @ggrace1133
      @ggrace1133 5 місяців тому +4

      Or maybe not getting reciprocal understanding and effort from your partner. Love is a living thing. It takes two to nourish it and help it grow. If only one of the two cares and does everything they can, the love eventually ends up on life support and then death. Both have to care and grow the love according to both partner’s needs. Both. Two. The one who betrays is wrong to betray. But remember, the one who does nothing to nourish their love and relationship has been betraying their vows long before. Both feed love, but it only takes one to starve it.

  • @galynwebb7587
    @galynwebb7587 9 місяців тому +30

    Esther Perel is the intelligent, knowledgeable, and interesting person to hear about personal reflection on relationships and how to look forward to better future relationships, within the current marriage.

  • @IndigoHazelnut
    @IndigoHazelnut 9 місяців тому +29

    Wonderful conversation. Thank you for this podcast.
    On the note of AI I will share an observation:
    When my sister was born my mother was in the same hospital ward as a woman who had just given birth but was under observation due to grade a drug addiction.
    I remember hearing her baby's cries & the nurses explained that basically the baby was crying so much as it was born with the drug addiction. It was one of the most terrifying cries I had ever heard.
    I had forgotten about this until a month ago when a woman came into my workplace with her 2 infants. At one point she took the phone off the hands of one of the infants and they started crying.. The same terrifying cry that baby with the addiction had..
    When experts state that technology has no impact on mental health issues.. I honestly think they have their blinders on.
    I'm glad Esther Perel is speaking so frankly about her concerns.. While it is not helpful to get all doom and gloom about technology (it does have its pluses..such as me listening to this podcast).. Its important to acknowledge what issues are arising

    • @Lifetimelearningisbrave
      @Lifetimelearningisbrave 7 місяців тому +2

      Tech in addition to our country being the ONLY developed one that doesn’t give paid year for 1-5 years for a mother to raise her infant. Times that fear by 80% of our infants at 6-12 weeks for 50 hours a week eeek. We have facilities raising our children and we pretend that is woman being equal instead of our babies growing into anxiously attached adults without a family identity as a home base.

  • @milenakisel2855
    @milenakisel2855 9 місяців тому +21

    Esther explains everything so perfectly!!!❤❤❤

  • @briannerk3373
    @briannerk3373 8 місяців тому +10

    Monogamy in the past and some present cultural circumstance, CAN be about buttressing a patriarchy; but that doesn't mean that it is in every society. Monagamy is there for a reason; cheating rips apart a holy bond of trust between two soul mates... to reduce it to "patriarchy" signals a contemptible turn toward a malignant paranoic type of identity politics. honestly this is pretty gross to listen to because she had valuable things to say about relationships in the past. You cant get everything in life, live with it. Limits aren't always bad.

    • @roses6564
      @roses6564 8 місяців тому

      Ha, ha. If they are soulmates, they don't cheat. If they cheated, they weren't soulmates. Most married people are NOT soulmates. The vast majority of marriages are transactional even if people don't think so this is their case. Sure it is.
      ua-cam.com/video/QF4xjfiesXY/v-deo.html

    • @kapler79
      @kapler79 8 місяців тому +3

      She has relevant insights but this reduction of monogamy to outdated social norms is wrong on a lot of levels. Non-monogamous relations have a dreadful track record of success, as do civilizations that allow them.

  • @lindawolfe2885
    @lindawolfe2885 9 місяців тому +15

    I disagree. With enough information regarding the biology of sex, passionate sex can be sustained in a long term relationship. A relationship where both people desire monogamy, has the greatest chance of happiness.

    • @roses6564
      @roses6564 8 місяців тому +7

      Two people can passionately desire monogamy and still have an un-salvageable relationships due to incompatibilities of interior. When they grow apart internally, no amount of hot sex is going to fix the problem.

    • @lindawolfe2885
      @lindawolfe2885 8 місяців тому

      @@roses6564Agreed. There are many ways a marriage can go off the rails. It’s just that something tells me, in a case where both parties desire monogamy, the chance of happiness together goes up.
      And having been an RD for 33 years, having 4 sisters who are RNs, I can tell you from a clinical standpoint, sex with someone other than one’s marriage partner poses a risk to both the physical and emotional health, safety and happiness of a married couple.

    • @swadey2.017
      @swadey2.017 6 місяців тому +2

      @@roses6564Find someone who you’re compatible with, monogamy can be achieved through compatibility

    • @roses6564
      @roses6564 6 місяців тому +2

      @@swadey2.017You do realize that ordering people to simply "find" someone compatible does not automatically imply agency. "Finding" is hardly within an individual's control, agency is not guaranteed; and even when two such people do find each other and reciprocate interest, structural impediments are often an issue.
      To manifest marriage, most people settle for a more or less opportunistic approach, committing to less-than-compatible partners - which explains the 70-80% rate of marital failure, whether divorces or simply intact but devitalized, expired marriages.
      We should quit pretending that marital fulfillment is all within individual control, especially in a context of calcified narratives about marriage.
      It isn't.

    • @swadey2.017
      @swadey2.017 6 місяців тому +1

      @@roses6564 You can’t do everything with one person, broaden your social circle, a healthy network of friends/family would be ideal. Being with your partner 24/7 would drive one to insanity. It’s important for couples to have time apart, it’s also important for couples to have date nights. People who decide to be poly should always communicate their deeds, honestly is respect. Esther Perel cucks her husband, good for her, but she giving cheaters a license to cheat and that’s f’d

  • @emmcn30
    @emmcn30 7 місяців тому +13

    The freedom piece and the security is huge. It has kept my 9 year relationship so solid and always growing. Spot on why its so important.

  • @LasshaLiou
    @LasshaLiou 9 місяців тому +19

    Esther is amazing and thank you Jordan

  • @Emy53
    @Emy53 6 місяців тому +33

    I love her advice. We do tend to not notice our own changes and then expect our significant other to remain the same.

  • @garyr1934
    @garyr1934 8 місяців тому +12

    This woman is about as wise as anyone can be
    Her responses to the highest quality of questions are so substantial that it’s hard to not be in awe
    And in gratitude
    Thank you both
    Beautiful souls

    • @garyr1934
      @garyr1934 7 місяців тому

      Thanks for your thumbs up whoever you are
      It caught my attention to my error
      Wide
      Wow
      Sorry Esther
      The word was supposed to be as it now reads
      “Wise”

  • @hilaryscott473
    @hilaryscott473 6 місяців тому +8

    Thank you Esther Perel for your AMAZING insights, and incredible family background and the fact you understand and speak 7 languages?!! My mind is officially blown!🤯

  • @monikawilliams6337
    @monikawilliams6337 8 місяців тому +8

    after 42 years of a challenging marriage I've discovered my husband is an undiagnosed Autistic and everything makes sense. So although I can understand and relate to all the tips, and have tried all the angles my husband does not understand even if explained, He actually says "I don't get it"

    • @SENSEF
      @SENSEF 6 місяців тому +2

      Me too! Can't find a therapist who understands. The last one just said we're too far gone, just get divorced, as if that magically solves everything, which is doesn't when you have school age children, you NEVER stop being co-parents and divorce can be just trading one set of problems for another. We were hoping the Autism diagnosis would help bring resources, but nope! Only research online and UA-cam about Autism helps, but a real adult Autism therapist would make a huge difference in uncovering what can be changed, what cant, and how we navigate that reality. Including how do we move forward despite all the hurt, damage, financial disasters, etc, especially now that we see how much the Autism contributed to his choices and behaviors.

    • @cjamis
      @cjamis 2 місяці тому

      @SENSEF I don't know where you are located, but don't give up. I'm a Psychiatrist and happen to see your post. I hope you don't mind but I wanted to help.There are resourses, even if you get help with remote video and online groups. If you see these resources and it feels impossible to navigate or leads no where, call the Autism Society to have an advocate help you lically. Also, your insurance has an obligation to your husbcwith his diagnosis to find therapists for him that are AutismSD experts.(don't mention couples therapy to insurance co. But you can get at it as individual for him). Sometimes Adult autism has ADHD symptoms as well, a therapist who is an expert in the therapy and life coaching in ADHD is also skilled in adult autism, especially at the PhD level and some psch social workers too at masters level.​
      These 2 links are to national resourses and rights:
      autismsociety.org
      :www.autismspeaks.org/resources-autistic-adults
      This link provides virtual sessions and takes insurance.www.prosperhealth.io/?ph_cam=PH_Web_PMax&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwp4m0BhBAEiwAsdc4aMmTWsKmkgQkVmU0x_x0Rt5NFJWX3AXNJcjpr3wFYKW--DCvTwaJXBoCY2cQAvD_BwE@SENSEF

  • @pamelawilson5975
    @pamelawilson5975 8 місяців тому +10

    She is fantastic.
    Hopefully, the host will see her to better understand how he can stop neglecting his wife.

    • @canadianhappyinitalytruest6556
      @canadianhappyinitalytruest6556 8 місяців тому +2

      i had the same thought. Big fan of ester, not a fan of Jordan. Good luck to his wife as he seemed to humble brag when relating what his mother in law was saying. Sheesh.

  • @dustunderourfeet1819
    @dustunderourfeet1819 8 місяців тому +7

    She’s so on point with the degradation of society (social atrophy at personal and larger levels) It causes me so much anxiety when I think about it. I hope it turns around soon!