Drinking Water from Thin Air | Future House | Ask This Old House
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2017
- Ask This Old House smart technology expert Ross Trethewey finds a solar panel that can generate clean drinking water out of thin air.
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Time: 2 hours
Cost: $5000
Skill Level: Advanced
Tools List for Installing a Solar Panel to Get Drinking Water from Thin Air:
Drill
Wrench
Shopping List:
Solar panel array
2x4 redwood
Lag bolts
3⁄8” water line
Steps:
• Mount the redwood boards to structure in the roof with lag bolts.
• Connect the mounting bracket to the redwood boards using lag bolts.
• Connect the solar panel array to the mounting bracket.
• Connect the 3⁄8” water line to the water reservoir and the water reservoir to the house.
• From the inside, connect the waterline to the refrigerator or a dedicated faucet.
Resources:
Ross saw the SOURCE solar panel array, manufactured by Zero Mass Water (www.zeromasswater.com).
The materials required to install these panels come included with the array.
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Now my goal of becoming a moisture farmer can be a reality! I'll just needs some droids to help around the farm. Just kidding.
Jay Wanders Out Hahahahaha! Best comment.
He’s showing off all that tech all I see an expensive repair bill when it breaks
Wow this water tastes great after its been mineralised and sweetened, Its Fantastic.
Kevin have you ever tried the water out of the tap in Arizona? I tested it with a Pool clorine test kit & the clorine level was perfect. I don't want to drink that
What about in northern climates? Freezing pipes etc.
but great for pure water. Our supplier acknowledged issues in our drinking water. A carbon filter can take care of it and would be cheaper anyway. But give it time. A great emergency system if they can get the price down
I bought a whole house water softener plus a reverse osmosis filter for drinking water. (Includes multiple activated carbon filters) This will clean up even the worst city or well water anywhere in the USA. Combined cost about $1200. Typical city water even in a desert community is about a penny per gallon.
Why would anyone install one of these? Maybe somewhere in Africa? Somewhere that the water supply is toxic due to a chemical spill?
Interesting technology but so few piratical applications.
Da javu! I have had this idea in my mind for days.
$2000? 2 gallons a day? filtered water costs .20 a gallon in AZ. payback: $2000 divided by $.40 = 13 years payback. and that's if you buy filtered water.
13 year payback on a system designed for 10 years lifespan. At price parity, this produces water 30% more expensive.
Bill Gates didn't fund this thing to make losses you know.😉
Cool dehumidifier re-purpose but you can buy tens of thousands of bottles of water for that price.
and add tens of thousands of plastic bottles to our landfills...if Nestle "access to free water is not a human right" corners the market, this option might make more sense in the future.
I was just putting a cost benefit on it. For regular folk this system is BS.
Or just gallons of water straight from the faucet.
...Or re-landscape your property for drought resistant plants.
Check out the cost of buying land and then supplying it with water before you can start to build anything...
I'd like to hear a little bit more about the magic that increases dew point by heating the air.
Hell, show me how to increase the dew point in any given volume of air. Reporter just snoozed right through that.
Great for developing world,.... But that cost is going to increase relative to those areas. What is $2000 for a Middle class Western civilization family, might as well be $2,000,000 for a family with dirt for floors and a tin roof.
Gmon3y 142 there's a way to make a diy system people have been doing it for awhile
So... These are moisture vaporators. You're a moisture farmer. You're Uncle Owen.
A black man invented this method, so I think we should give credit where credit is due.
In reality, Atmospheric Water Generators (Humidifiers with a filtering system) have been around for decades.
Got it? Got it.
I think it would be much cheaper to harvest rain water than fool with this thing.
What if you live in a desert? from your name I see you are paid agent
$1k per glass. Great idea, upscaled
This is just a solar powered dehumidifier.
Legionella? Add UV!
Thats cool, but how do i diy one? I have two 100watt panels sitting in storage and I want to do something with them
japrogramer find a dehumidifier that uses less then 200 watts
Please tell me what is the paper like material you used
Silica
Very cool for the right market, but this has absolutely no value for the average house. Water is typically clean, safe, and incredible inexpensive. Volumes of drinking water is literally insignificant in cost. They would be better served by putting in a 5 stage reverse osmosis system for about $200~ instead of $5,000.
briancnc well not really clean. water is full of nasty things u cant see all medic woman pill make u no breeding
All drinking water should and can be easily filtered without spending much money.
I totally agree with the reverse osmosis system but the point of this product is to produce water... Like In a place of drought where the supply to get water to the reverse osmosis is low... Totally agree with you if you live where water is readily available.
The part that they will never address, for obvious reasons, is the fact that even in arid climates, it is still way cheaper, more efficient and more reliable to just dig a bloody well to the aquifer...
briancnc This is invaluable if the grid goes down or in places with no access to power! Our Texas water tastes like sand/dust so we buy filtered water for drinking! Drilling a well is often not a good option... we hit bed rock about 15 feet down, long before you get water! I'd like to know what kind of maintenance this requires
at 3:06 he missed the joist lol
Can you tell by the sound?
Joseph Thompson The sound and by visually seeing it, there was resistance drilling into the redwood but after the red wood it plunged down without any effort which means he went through plywood into nothing. And the lag bolt washer did not get crushed which means that there's nothing behind that redwood except plywood.
Oh and you can also tell by when he lifts his foot the red wood moves up slightly which means thats 100% not in a ceiling joist and just in plywood. He knew he missed the joist and was hesitant in removing his foot lolol
what plywood are you talking about ? It looks like he driving the lag bolt into an anchor that was put beforehand
Would it be cool to do this in your town if your town allows it
I am sure your town won't allow it. Towns throughout the US utilize the Anglo Saxon administration of Justice, which makes perpetrating a scam a Felony.
Otherwise known as a dehumidifier.
If only there was an energy free technology to get water off the roof of your house? Some day, someday maybe!
I hear they actually trying to come up with something like that, very very high tech and extremely expensive.
I mean it takes a lot to buy some gutters, a food grade barrel and a filter.
I hear it can cost as much as 200$ in some cases.
@@chaosking911 - Ha ha. This was in the hot desert that is Phoenix, AZ where I live. We get maybe 7 inches of rain per year, over a total of ten days. The rest of the 355 days a year - zip, nada, nothing. The majority of the houses don't even bother with a rain gutter - no need. All those trees in the picture? They'd be dead without underground sprinklers, drip lines and bubblers. We all have them at every house and we have programmable timers to put the right amount of water where we need it.
My cost of water per month to pay for watering the lawn and trees (a 10,600 sf lot), supply my swimming pool with replacement water after evaporation, and for my normal household uses = $190.00 - $250.00 per month depending on the time of year. Caveat: this also includes a trash pickup and sewer charge which are fixed, regardless. If this unit could pay for enough water to keep my pool full and my lawn and trees watered, that would be awesome.
I wonder what the units cost and how much each produces? Anyone know?
Less rain
This was fascinating, a glimpse of the future! Thank you.
ua-cam.com/video/LVsqIjAeeXw/v-deo.html
Look and learn.
So the future is a ludicrous scam?
A couple of gallons a day regardless of the humidity level? It wouldn’t make more in Tennessee than it does in Phoenix? That technology has a ways to go before the cost/benefit value makes it worthwhile. Until then I think filtration has this beat by a significant margin.
So far all those snake oil companies rely on the fact everyone is excited about anything solar, no matter how many times real scientists will prove how inefficient the current products are and how mathematically impossible most of their claims are as well.
ChaosKing I think you’re using data from the past. Solar and battery efficiencies have drastically increased in the last few years. Depending on application, they are already cost effective. Certainly not for everything, but the advances in the tech sector are closing the gap at a much faster rate than before.
"Yeah you got it." "Got it." @02:50
GOT IT
FISH ON lol
mantıklı bir sistem
This video is very moist..
I forgot fish sticks existed. Thanks for reminding me. Now I'm going to buy some.
Well, I got some. Now I remember why I never buy them. They're not very good.
You didn't like putting fish sticks in your mouth then :(
No, not really. Maybe the ones I got were just low quality, but the fish was mushy and bland. I smothered them in cocktail sauce, so that helped.
$3 for 2.5-gallons at Walmart
0.5-gallons per day per person.
Average house has about 3-people.
1.5-gallons drinking water per house per day.
10.5-gallons per week.
This is about four 2.5-gallon water containers.
This is $12 per week per house for drinking water.
This $624 per year per house for drinking water.
This thing pays for itself in less than four years for a $2,000 unit.
That is a good ROI.
Plus it saves me from buying, lugging, and throwing all the water containers.
I want one for my RV 😎.
that it may but it is heavily climate dependent it has to be humid where you are and this specific one needs solar power
Flat roof needed?
Just a flat head, and a think wallet. It's a scam.
Pay a few grand to make some bottles of water 😂
Great!! But I will wait until it's cheaper and can do the whole house :D
This is not new, Luke Skywalker was working with moisture collectors in 1977
The desert cool nights warm mornings the dewpoint wisest succulent plants it's time to think about the climate which plants to plant play on your garden educate the landscaper. We are living in the 21st century where population is becoming larger in areas where it was less people. We better start thinking ahead because we are running out of water places like California Arizona New Mexico Texas Louisiana Alabama Georgia Florida these places been in a severe drought for over 17th year's. The population growth since 2000.
navtomás gardener it’ll never work, it’s just a off the shelf de-humidifier
Why not just dig a well or build a reservoir to collect rain water ?
Collecting rain water is illegal ملوك الترجمة
Everything is contaminated with PFAS PFOA PFOS , Like FOOD, WATER, SOIL , LOOK IT UP it causes all types of diseases 💀
$2000 for a couple of gallons a day? just go to the dollar store and get a couple of gallons for $2...
That would have to be the most inefficient air conditioning system ever
Exactly. And they are power inefficient.
Thunderfoot!
Mold issues?
Scams don't grow mold. Mold is a growing organism in the real world, while this is a scam.
Anyone have the thought of how that device would hold up during a hurricane? Looks like the first thing to be blown off and land right into a car or someone’s house. The reason I ask is because I can see some practical application in a place like Florida where there’s a ton of moist in the air and a nasty storm always looming around the corner.
I'd like to know how they ensure it's safe to drink (from a bacteria perspective).
They never addressed how this unit deals with smog and other pollutions that would be in the moisture you’re pulling out of the atmosphere. Remember acid rain?
they said they had a filtration system and a mineral block attached near the end of the video.
If you guys can watch my video on soil building you understand why you must plant what is native to the land. Stop wasting water the population is growing.
Are those OSHA approved sandals up on that roof? 😉
Are these units backed up by battery? What happens at night?
Cold Waffles the solar panel powers the unit
This would be good in Puerto Rico
NOPE. Puerto Rico has enough scams, doesn't need another.
Dream comes true, God bless you alls , Jesus always been cares abouts us & Love you alls with concerns abouts betters achievements access.
juicero 2.0
drinking tasty chemtrails
Thunderf00t did this
Exactly, fell for it hook and sinker
Link, please
I know!
LINK: ua-cam.com/video/aPvXnmBIO7o/v-deo.html
there are between 5-10 videos regarding "taking water from the atmosphere"; look up "thunderf00t waterseer".
you linked to the water bottle vid that only debunked a system that was the size of a bottle cap...funny thing is he used math from an area where it was going to work the best in and it created 1 liter in 120 hours i say that is a success from a system only the size of a quarter.
That’s kinda dumb since all the water is giving is for the fridge 😒 would be nice if it worked for the shower or bathroom
Need of the hour is sustainable development, this is the best way to lead life in future. Thank you.
Mn Appaji Gowda it’s an overpriced dehumidifier
Am I under the wrong assumption that this is distilled water? I guess if you're just going to drink this from time to time it's not so bad but drinking it as your main source of water I think you'd get sick pretty quick.
Pendemic The video mentions that they add minerals back into the water.
How does it handle freezing temperatures? How much water can one unit collect in a dry climate... does it get more in humid?
Considering it heats the air, it should handle cold temperatures pretty well...
Otherwise, it should follow similar rules as other atmospheric generators. So volume of air and humidity level will effect output. Just minus the huge energy bill...
But, in particular cold regions that doesn't get much sun you may need to add a heater to help heat the air, as this system is limited to where solar thermal will work...
This technology is rubbish for very hot or very cold places.
All you need is look at the cells they are using and realize their inability to produce electricity at non optimal mild climate.
Uh, no... Doesn't work like that... This isn't a solar electric system, it only has a solar PV panel for running the electronics that control the system and monitors its performance.
Solar thermal with heat pumps is a different technology from solar PV... It's channeling both ambient and heat from the sun for heating the air and that means it can work in a very wide range of climates as it's conditioning the air to always be in the optimal range to draw moisture from it...
The actual limit of the system is places where it may not get enough sun to provide enough heat but heat pumps means any other heat source can be used or you can simply scale it larger as with enough surface area even very little sun can still provide enough heat.
While the electronics monitor the temperature and control the heat to keep it at the optimal range.
It's a scam, then answer is, 'tell me what you want to hear', and "It does that!"
Ни фига не понимаю, но разве это не дистилят?))
Te fso pravelno ponal. eto prosto ochen daragoi distilat.
No, this is not a scam. However, this is EXTREMELY niche. In MOST situations, this makes zero sense. Certain specific parts of airzona are where it MIGHT make sense, but it is still a bit of a crap shoot. This is much better than the solar water generators you see on kickstarters, but even much better doesn't make it economically feasible if a better/cheaper source of water is nearby.
Um...wait till the power grid fails and water doesn't flow cause no pumps are moving...
It is a scam
Add the cost of hooking up water to your house initially, plus monthly water bills, plus the (mostly unseen) costs of the added neurological poison (fluoride), plus the other poisons in municipal water, plus filthy water mains, plus chances of water supply interruption by natural disasters, etc. Supply your own, eliminate the questionable profit oriented middleman. People seem to forget that their water comes from the SEWER DEPARTMENT.
signalfire6 you are delusional. Simple physics explains why this is a complete scam.
If it really works this type of tech should be open source for Earths sake. With that said a huge Grant to make it possible to move this tech around the world to people that need it the most. Yeah I know.
Curiosity it’s an overpriced dehumidifier
Incessant Grammarly is annoying; drop the monetization.
this looks to hold some promise, i'll be sure to show this to my environmental science classes
Why do you want to flunk a class?
This makes absolutely zero sense in a on grid home in the US.
Would be nice on boats instead of watermakers today.
Superrrrrrr
Scam, it’s just a dehumidifier
Amazing, truly amazing. Great post.
JD Williams it’s an overpriced dehumidifier
SCAM please look up videos debunking this
Uploader, please consult someone with scientific knowledge, like a high schooler, before promoting scams like this.
this would be nice, but according to there website a pair of these panels make an avg of 5-8l per day of water in most of the united states (production based on climate)in the avg home each person uses 380l per day of water, and the avg household uses 900l per day of water that means that to supply a standard household with a normal amount of water you would need you would need aprox 225 panels- each panel costs $2000 (not including install) that works out to $45000 VS the $5-7000 cost of a well, plus in poor nations where wells are to expensive how is this going to help, per l of water this is far more expensive in almost any climate.
Hmm, they quoted me twice that price in California. And I am pretty sure I could make one that works better for under $1000, and I'd rather just use a $200 RO water filter with a $70 pressure pump on the condensate pouring out of my house heat pump most of the year.
As you told us multiple times. Thanks, we get the point.
yes, It would be much more efficient to use an already produced byproduct from lets say your hvac system than installing this panel Also much cheaper.
Shh! no one here want to hear about this "cheap and very efficient well digging technology", we want to hear about snake oil pseudoscience crap! he has solar in it, therefore any critics calling for accountability for any other parameters beside "we used a solar panel here" are considered heretics and neoconservative oil drinking monsters.
"Yeah you got it". "Got it".
Ozzie Sheppard coooooooooo
Oh great! Now we can keep drinking BPA!
You talk and I'll repeat everything you said. Then we both get paychecks.
No way this is a rooftop unit in Flint Michigan without an insulated and or indoor tank to protect from freezing temps.
Justin Angerstein it’s an overpriced dehumidifier
Scams don't have freezing temps.
I'm not paying thousands of dollars for something my air conditioner does for free!
That company is full of @#$%.
So they are trying to sell people overpriced dehumidifiers.
2 gallons a day it holds 8 gallons. 4 days to fill system I just flushed my toilet and all gone dammmmmmmnitttttttt!!!
Bring this idea to life in Africa!
Please never bring this idea to life in Africa!
Please bring proper solutions to Africa instead of this scam!
They already know how to scam gullible Americans in Africa, Mugu.
Are you making people fool
That's American for you, idiots. 90% of Americans would think this actually works.
Only fools can be fooled. Period!!! Sorry about that. This is a working principle. The million dollar question is, how commercially viable this can be? This is highschool physics - dew point condensation.
Are they in africa? This seems like an overly expensive resolution to a problem we don't have...
Ffs
I came here with the wrong attitude, I was just ‘interested’. I should have been ‘super interested’.
Mmmm....plastic.
Israeli Technology.
This is such a scam.
Brian Bouchard why?
Costs a ton and gives very little and is dangerous as hell.
There are places on this planet where they already use it and they need daily care to keep the water safe to drink.
ua-cam.com/video/bqZw1MqISvM/v-deo.html
I'm not going to go so far as to claim it's a scam just yet but I do have my doubts about desert air being able to produce drinking water in enough quantity to be useful.
Also I don't think the water is going to be very clean when you are taking it unfiltered from an atmosphere that has dust, pollen, mold, mildew, and other stuff in the air.
No, this is a different system, it costs to install but the solar thermal and solar PV means it powers itself and it works throughout the whole day for continuous output as long as the sun is out. So the only long term costs on this one is maintenance.
Output is still limited but it's a lot more than fog catchers can output.
While the only danger is if you're in an area where there is pollution in the air but you can easily just add a water filter to the system. Just like any other water catchment system, like from rain, rivers, etc.
Systems can also be scaled if you need more, but the point is to be able to get water where you otherwise can't. Even a little can be the difference between living and death...
It's just not intended to replace regular sources of water where they exist, just places where you can't easily have access to water and alternatives like rain catchment won't suffice and there's no option to dig a well, etc...
Besides, you should be careful of any water source and not assume any one is safer than the other...
Examples like Flint Michigan with their lead issue and the chemicals and drugs that find their way into our tap water in many parts of the country... Even bottle water isn't always as safe as it should be all the time...
So good to consider filtering just about everything you are going to drink...
Brian Bouchard .It is a scam to put a surcharge on water we get for free in town
seems like a nightmare overtime. changing filters minerals bricks flushing tubes bugs. hooking it directly to the fridge how long till water and ice is down for repairs every 3 months. good idea but not long term.
What a crock. If you're that short of water consider trucking in water or treating existing sources including rainwater, they're both far, far better, more sustainable solutions to water shortages than this scam.
secondo
Would be cool if it made beer or something.. kidding.... if anyone is looking for a new UA-cam channel, we’re posting new videos every week of our renovation..
You could never use that in China!!! their air pollution is putrid
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