Friend of mine worked in a military submarine. They used to play this game they named "Danger Nut." They'd get a good sized nut and put it over a thin section of pipe, then spin it up like you did with the chain in this video. But since it's solid and has a distinct hexagonal shape it spun up to thousands of RPMs. Then once it was screaming they'd fling it into the occupied living quarters and it would bounce around like a superball, given that everything in a sub is metal. Inevitably they'd hear "OW, FUCK!!" as it smashed into someone at Mach 3.
At low speeds it acts like a looping string having a wave from external forces travel through it making the funny squiggling shape. At higher RPMs centrifugal forces are now more prevalent and the tension is so high, the wave has way too high of a frequency for the chain to resolve, so it succumbs to being a circle.
@@TheLiverX I forgot about the tension part influencing wave frequencies. Though I originally thought that the reason the waves formed in the first place was that as the chain went around a bend, there was friction between the plates causing them to resist changing their relative angle to adjacent plates (ie a circle want's to stay a circle). But I can see how these bends may also induce a backward propagating wave that end's up standing near the opposite boundaries. I have an idea how to test the friction theory, but no idea how I might test the wave theory.
@@FreedomOfDegree Yeah, it's not friction, it's inertia. Once the centripetal force exceeds the tension and friction forces, a circle is all it can be.
@@kindlinagreed, I believe that there probably other factors but you are mostly right and possible completely correct, been decades since my schooling and not exactly what I deal with daily
@@OldManBOMBIN You need not wait for the impending apocalypse to engage in post-apocalypse behavior. (Just don't post-apocalypse behavior on other people ❤️)
@@dittilio on the one hand, I do have spare chainsaw chains lying around. On the other, I don't think my compressor is strong enough, and I've never shortened a chainsaw chain before.
@@jamesmarks8099 She put in a good effort for sure. Doesn't have the hp to do it constantly but has the tank to store enough of a charge. Started spewing water by the end of it.
I recommend looking up string throwers if you havent already, the effects you got with the large chain with the funky shapes are very similar to what those devices produce
@@iPeaked One of them might be. And it might be this one. I usually get the acetone based one, but I picked up the wrong one. I didn't see that particular warning on this can though but 🤷♀️.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Uuuuuhhh... I just checked my can. It's the tetrachloroethelene one. I'll see you boys on the other side 🫡. But in all seriousness, I looked it up. While it is designated as a *possible* carcinogen, it also requires long term exposure, and the study was a little suspect as most the people were also smokers and drinkers. (Citing Wikipedia). The page also suggests it's relatively safe. I personally don't like it because it hangs around whereas the acetone one evaporates quickly. *Edit: designated not designed
@@clickityclackity7096 I'm very ashamed to say. Amazon. Made in China 😢. If I could have found a pair that was made in America, I would've bought those, but apparently the Chinese are more patriotic than we are.
You might want to drain your compressor tank their is either a lot of oil or water in that thing. Interesting experiment, I think a large part of your problem initially was the size of the pipe and the soft drive wheel made it a lot easier for the silver chain to spin up ...had you done the same with the heavy chain it would have worked but gunked up your felt wheel
I had the same thought of the size of the pipe. If you look at the size of the round block relative to the silver chain compared to the size of the full sized chain to the pipe you are using, I think the pipe you are using is vastly undersized. I would probably try a pipe that is at least 4 inches/10cm across, possibly 8in/20cm and enough excess chain to be able to fit anything from a ping-pong ball to a tennis ball through the gap in the chain. That and possibly try using a burnishing wheel you really do not care about chewing up in about fifteen seconds. Still, random & interesting.
One of the reasons I went for the air compressor is that I could get much faster speeds, mach 1 about. That and the steel chain could mess up the felt wheels which are set up for jewelry at the moment.
I did considering a larger diameter pipe, but seeing as the bracelet spun up on the smallest pipe, I figured it didn't make that much of a difference. Though I do concede that I ended up matching the chain size to the pipe anyway.
@@FreedomOfDegree definitely is ;) Also Julian doesn't have a brother, thought I'd clarify. You would definitely be a candidate if they wanted that plot put in the show tho lol
@@FreedomOfDegree np lol hell I'm starting to know what that feels like now, all these kiddos saying ohio and watching things on streaming services. Jk lmao but you should DEFFO check out "trailer park boys" the series, starts slow but DAMN do you get hooked. The acting is actually unreal. First time I watched it I was genuinely was wondering if half the shit was actually just going down in some trailer park in Canada 😂😂
@@FreedomOfDegree Steve has done a video on the chain falling out of a container effect, where the chain lifts up and forms funny squiggles, and it seems very relevant to the chain squiggles you get in this video.
@@kindlin I think in that case, the squiggles are from the chaotic initial position of the chain. As they are laid there in the container, they are kinda all over the place. And when they pick up, they have to be pulled in line with the chain, imparting a force in the direction that the chain was in.
@@FreedomOfDegree I think you are right, but you're not giving enough consideration to the chains inertia. As it tries to whip around it will have to work against its own inertia as it accelerates in the curve, and when the curve 'ends' then it still has that angular momentum, causing it to whip one way, then the other, etc., etc.
Its the direction of the airflow. It changes where the squiggle is in relation to the rod. Airflow from top puts moment of squiggle at the unmoving rod which cancels it out allowing it to glide over top of rod.
I have no idea how I got here, but this is exactly the kinda shit that original UA-cam was made of. "Hey, I found some neat shit, so I played with it. Here's the video"
you can see at 1:40 that the same problem that the big chain has occurs in the small chain when it loses speed, all you need is alot more speed and power for the big chain to spin like a circle
I think the downward angle of the air is contributing to the success. It's pulling the chain around the pipe rather upward air pushing the chain around the pipe
Thanks man, looks like the effect may also be from the angle of the air, when it's pointed down the bouncing of the chain could be dampened further. Vs being lifted up.
You just needed a larger input for a bigger chain, that is why with the compressed air the small one spun super easy and the same goes with air from further away it gives more pressure try to blow directly into a trash bag like it is a balloon, and it'll take forever but open it up get about a foot back and blow in, and you just filled it with one breath
Fun video for sure! Don't forget boys and girls, always drain your compressors after every use so they don't accumulate condensation inside and rust out! It'll turn an air compressor to a pressure washer as well, lol.
2:54 so at first.. mate... please wear body armor and thick protective glasses. if the chain breaks, u have to deal with an exploding grenade. additional: this looks exactly like what i would do, when i have to do an important task but my brain trys EVERYTHING to procrastinate :D
for safety that chain looks like a motorcycle chain, my chain whitstand some pretty epic forces.... (by epic i mean the strenght is epic for whitstanding those forces of a wheelie, 90% throttle pulls ect)
@@isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676 If I had to guess, there is friction between the plates of the chain (the sticky grease increases this effect), so the angle between 2 links is resistant to change. This can be best seen as the chain snakes over the rod. Instead of dropping straight down, it continues to follow the circular shape of rod. But now the chain has gone past its resting position and it swings back like a pendulum. The same behavior can be seen on the upswing.
@@ezmatt I guess I forgot to show it. I did put multi-purpose oil on it, but I don't think it was the make or break of it. A good clean chain should work just as well considering the bracelet is unlubricated.
@@FreedomOfDegree true, maybe you should’ve tried putting oil on the bracelet to see if it made it better or worse. Also, you should make a little sprocket and connect it to a motor to spin the big chain faster (or maybe something using friction like the polishing wheel, but faster/variable speed). It might be something to do the mass to velocity ratio of each link, and since compressed air velocity is constant the ratio is much greater for the bigger chain.
This feels related to the Mould effect to me. Have you seen that one? When people pull a chain out of a jar until the weight of the chain can continue pulling itself from the jar? It arcs in a really interesting way.
When it comes to rollers and ball-bearings, _never_ exceed the rotational speed they're designed to operate at, especially without sufficient protection. Whether it's from centripetal force, friction, or shear, spinning objects used outside of their safe RPM range can fail in a sudden, dangerous manner. Fragments from the failing object can act like shrapnel and the damage they can do scales with the amount of speed the object is carrying at the point of failure.
@@legoferrari14 I agree. I don't know what tension the chain is rated for, nor do I know how fast it was going. That being said, as an adult I evaluated the risks and determined it was safe enough. I made sure to keep as much of my body outside of the potential failure zone as well as wore gloves and eye protection. I also did not try to push the chain to a faster speed without proper protection. I would want to build some sort of shield that would allow me to spin up the chain without risking my body, my property, other people's bodies and other people's properties before I go for a faster speed.
The dampening caused by the rod allows the chain to relax. The smaller chain probably becomes circular because the buffing wheel acts as a dampener. Or perhapse the chain itself had some dampening.
all i can think of, is where is all that water comming from that's comming out when you shoot that compressed air. when was the last time you drained the tank?
@@renevile I was running it for a long time. It's a smallish portable one, so I make sure to drain it after each use. I live in a god forsaken swamp where it's 110% humidity every day, so after running for so long it condensed a lot of water out of the air. It was dry when I started.
Good luck picking the shrapnel out of your face! I survived a bearing explosion in the 80s and kept my fingertip. So many rules when using compressed air.
This video felt like one of those summer days where I would be out with the boys and figured out some dumb trick we would all repeat until the lights are out
@@a_guy8795 That's cuz up until now you'd never even considered the possibility. I hadn't either until it happened with the bracelet on the buffing wheel.
Steve Mould has some cool videos on the golfball paradox and bouncing a ball under a table that might give you some insight into what happened inside the cinderblock.
I think what makes the difference is the fact that if you angle the compressor nozzle down across the top/side quarter(say the 1 o'clock position) of the chain, as you move air across the chain, it is being pulled, rather than pushed by going across the 11 or 12 o'clock position, where it is being pushed. I am saying push vs pull, because if you look at the pipe from the side view(like the camera angle in the video), there is an "uphill" and a "downhill" on the pipe. At 1, the air was "pulling" the chain downhill, and at 11 or 12, the chain was being "pushed" uphill. That is my theory as to why you had the s-curve occurring at the bottom half of the chain. I could be wrong, and would love to hear other theories.
@@gordonfurness6253 I've heard a couple so far *throughout the comments section. The one I think is the most plausible is that there is friction between the plates. This friction makes the chain want to stay in whatever shape it's in. If the chain is in a circle or a circle segment (like when it travels around the tube), as it transitions to the straight segment on the falling side, the friction tries to make it remain a circle. This makes it overshoot the path that it should take and gravity as well as the pulling force from the rest of the chain ahead of it give it some inertia to swing back like a pendulum. But like a pendulum it overshoots again so it kinda follows a zigzag path on the way down. The friction dampens the movement and the chain eventually straightens out. The same applies to the bottom.
@@FreedomOfDegree Ah, yes, good ol' friction. I hadn't thought about that when I was typing my thesis above. I was too focused on the placement of air.
You should be eliminating friction. Mount a small sprocket that matches the chain's pattern to an axle with ball bearings and clips to keep it in place and hang the chain over it and try spinning it.
@@greensheen8759 I do. It's a portable and I store it after each use. I also live in a swamp where every day is 110% humidity. I once almost drowned when I walked outside.
as advertised and even better great stuff, would love to see more. have you tried a longer chain with the technique that ended up working? how did that go?
@@Kozzado This was the biggest chain I could get spinning. My air compressor nozzle combination didn't have enough power behind it to get the others past snaking. It might be easier to get one to spin with a buffing wheel, but the tradeoff there is a lower (theoretical) top speed, unless you build a machine specifically for this. For a hobbyist, I'd go for a better air compressor first. Maybe a slightly smaller gauge chain also.
@@mr.daydreamer5123 I've seen it done with a screwdriver, though a spheroid would definitely make it easier. When I tried to shoot the chain from the bottom, it tended to flop around instead of staying a nice circle.
There is a drain plug at the bottom of your air compressor. Seems like its time to drain the water sitting in the bottom of your tank? Or is that something else im seeing? P.s. - im definitely subscribing as spraying random objects with compressed air is my favorite pass time, 2nd only to cat 🐱 videos
@@Iron_Condorr It's probably water. I was running it a long time and in this humidity, it's more of a condenser than a compressor. It's a small portable one so I drain it every time I put it away. Glad you enjoyed 😁
I would think if the chain were longer instead of shorter the physics would take over given enough propulsion I think the smaller version the structure is doing much of the work. If you’re going to scale it up, scale it up.
@@FirstnameLastname-rc8yd That is a good idea. I've never ran a car on jacks though. But even if I got the car going 100 mph, I still think the compressed air would make the chain spin faster (if it has the strength to spin it at all).
Well you just got a subscription outta me. Good job at trying all the possible outcomes. After you figured out how to get it to loop did you ever try it again with a larger length?
kinda cathartic that the "problem" you were facing during this experiment probably had to do with the degree of freedom of the chain itself, but this video is picking up steam with the algo 😁😁
@@crionidel One of the reasons I named the channel such is because I threw away the burden of "Thats just how things are." Why? No one makes sauce from beverages. Why not? Could I make friends with the local groundhogs? I'm not sure if I'm making this point particularly well. But basically, free your mind/body to seek the answers to whatever you might think of. Don't worry about if other people don't think your ideas/questions aren't very good. Chances are they don't know the answer either.
@@724x4acchevy I'll see how big a bearing my local hardware store stocks 😉 *Edit: Wait... I specifically the ball bearing in the ball bearing, but I think you might mean the ball bearing, if you know what I mean.
@@kristyandesouza5980 In some cases that can make it harder to spin. A thick lube while very good at protecting the metal can add a lot of drag. I did try some 3 in 1 oil on the bigger chains but it didn't make too big of a difference. I think in this case either a very light oil, or dry, gives the chain the best chance.
@@RatoCavernaBR That's probably accurate, as the contact point on the pipe is the only point relative to the pipe that doesn't change. IE the sides of the chain round out, the bottom is pulled up, but the top stays in roughly the same spot and orientation. Good catch.
@@DemsW One of the first things I did when I got it (after fixing it) was to blow air into the dirt. You're right. It might be one of the most tempting to misuse.
Chain drag,along with wieght and diameter and circumstances and rpm all factors, kinda like the weights in old distributors and the springs that attempt to hold them in , little chain was longer but lighter and larger circumference,
@@RelativelyQualifiedEngineer Hey, aren't you working on a spinning piece of metal? Actually! I'm rocking that 95.8% dude fest. Special thanks to my 3.8% ladies 😘
Seems like the kind of thing that would occupy WAY too much of my time, if I discovered it.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 *(snap)* Yes!
Fr 😂
I would be far too enthralled to think of capturing it on video...or stopping for dinner...or sleep 😄
There is a certain temptation to fire up my air compressor and try this...
@@joedingo7022 If you've got a bigger one, post the results!
Friend of mine worked in a military submarine. They used to play this game they named "Danger Nut." They'd get a good sized nut and put it over a thin section of pipe, then spin it up like you did with the chain in this video. But since it's solid and has a distinct hexagonal shape it spun up to thousands of RPMs. Then once it was screaming they'd fling it into the occupied living quarters and it would bounce around like a superball, given that everything in a sub is metal. Inevitably they'd hear "OW, FUCK!!" as it smashed into someone at Mach 3.
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 I can only imagine the horrifying sound of a 1" nut spinning up to mach speed in the dark of "night."
"did you lose your eye in combat"
"No it's far worse.."
Just thinking about a 3/16 nut bouncing around at mach fuck has me giggling like a madman
@@jwalster9412 "I lost my balls."
@@LACdoggys "but what happened to your eye, dude?"
At low speeds it acts like a looping string having a wave from external forces travel through it making the funny squiggling shape.
At higher RPMs centrifugal forces are now more prevalent and the tension is so high, the wave has way too high of a frequency for the chain to resolve, so it succumbs to being a circle.
@@TheLiverX I forgot about the tension part influencing wave frequencies.
Though I originally thought that the reason the waves formed in the first place was that as the chain went around a bend, there was friction between the plates causing them to resist changing their relative angle to adjacent plates (ie a circle want's to stay a circle).
But I can see how these bends may also induce a backward propagating wave that end's up standing near the opposite boundaries.
I have an idea how to test the friction theory, but no idea how I might test the wave theory.
physics loves it's circles and spheres.
@@xander4218 They are very nice. I like them too.
@@FreedomOfDegree Yeah, it's not friction, it's inertia. Once the centripetal force exceeds the tension and friction forces, a circle is all it can be.
@@kindlinagreed, I believe that there probably other factors but you are mostly right and possible completely correct, been decades since my schooling and not exactly what I deal with daily
This feels like Fallout universe UA-cam. Like, this is post-apocalypse activity.
@@OldManBOMBIN You need not wait for the impending apocalypse to engage in post-apocalypse behavior. (Just don't post-apocalypse behavior on other people ❤️)
@@FreedomOfDegree oh, uhhh..
*feeds liver to dog under table*
Yeah, not on others, that's bad 👍🏻
@@OldManBOMBIN Good man!
@@OldManBOMBINyou realize that tables made of glass, right?
@@schizophreniagaming4058 what table? I don't know what you're talking about. Table? What liver?
Next up, a toothed chain! Like from a chainsaw or similar.
Beyblade Beyblade let it rip (me to pieces)
honestly seems like something a certain Australian would do.
@@dittilio on the one hand, I do have spare chainsaw chains lying around. On the other, I don't think my compressor is strong enough, and I've never shortened a chainsaw chain before.
@@FreedomOfDegree After the cainsaw chain you might not have the other hand.
@@lossdriver Ha!
On one hand, a cool idea
On the other, no hand.
1:41 Telling by how the small chain made that same squiggly pattern after it started slowing down, speed is your problem.
The air compressor is the real vip of this video.
@@jamesmarks8099 She put in a good effort for sure. Doesn't have the hp to do it constantly but has the tank to store enough of a charge. Started spewing water by the end of it.
As one of the cool kids these days. I have no idea what we are doing anymore.
Welcome to the new normal. Try to get comfortable and enjoy 😊
I think we're not subscribing to anything and just letting our algorithms adopt channels
Skateboard
I recommend looking up string throwers if you havent already, the effects you got with the large chain with the funky shapes are very similar to what those devices produce
@@chevanc They are pretty neat. One thing the chain has going for it is how heavy it is. Once you start it, it wants to keep going.
"So i did it many more times." We truly all share the same braincell
Brake cleaner is incredibly carcinogenic. Seen a dude in his early 30s die in less than a year getting it on his hands daily.
@@iPeaked One of them might be. And it might be this one. I usually get the acetone based one, but I picked up the wrong one. I didn't see that particular warning on this can though but 🤷♀️.
@@FreedomOfDegree you really did just 🤷♀️ carcinogenic materials, what a madlad. Also this is the type of content I come to UA-cam for, well done.
@@GodofWeird very happy to have the God of Weird's blessing. Thank you 🙏
It's acetone, not tetrachloroethylene. I haven't seen that in years.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC Uuuuuhhh... I just checked my can. It's the tetrachloroethelene one. I'll see you boys on the other side 🫡.
But in all seriousness, I looked it up. While it is designated as a *possible* carcinogen, it also requires long term exposure, and the study was a little suspect as most the people were also smokers and drinkers. (Citing Wikipedia). The page also suggests it's relatively safe. I personally don't like it because it hangs around whereas the acetone one evaporates quickly.
*Edit: designated not designed
I think the problem is the orange and white stripped pants. I think this is an American voice over from an eastern European video.
@@richardlamm4826 I guess I didn't show off my star spangled leg well enough in this one. Will definitely try to more in the future.
Speaking of, where’d you get those!! I’m diggin em 😂
@@clickityclackity7096 I'm very ashamed to say. Amazon. Made in China 😢. If I could have found a pair that was made in America, I would've bought those, but apparently the Chinese are more patriotic than we are.
@@FreedomOfDegreeI don’t even think many of em can read and write I’m patriotic for America lol
"an introduction to spinning chains: the physic of the rotary motion" a book I would surely buy
You might want to drain your compressor tank their is either a lot of oil or water in that thing.
Interesting experiment, I think a large part of your problem initially was the size of the pipe and the soft drive wheel made it a lot easier for the silver chain to spin up ...had you done the same with the heavy chain it would have worked but gunked up your felt wheel
I had the same thought of the size of the pipe. If you look at the size of the round block relative to the silver chain compared to the size of the full sized chain to the pipe you are using, I think the pipe you are using is vastly undersized. I would probably try a pipe that is at least 4 inches/10cm across, possibly 8in/20cm and enough excess chain to be able to fit anything from a ping-pong ball to a tennis ball through the gap in the chain.
That and possibly try using a burnishing wheel you really do not care about chewing up in about fifteen seconds.
Still, random & interesting.
One of the reasons I went for the air compressor is that I could get much faster speeds, mach 1 about. That and the steel chain could mess up the felt wheels which are set up for jewelry at the moment.
I did considering a larger diameter pipe, but seeing as the bracelet spun up on the smallest pipe, I figured it didn't make that much of a difference. Though I do concede that I ended up matching the chain size to the pipe anyway.
0:27 hey just found this channel and i have to say, you look like Julian's little brother from trailer park boys 😂 (deffo a complimemt btw)
@@SaltyAsTheSea He must be some handsome fellow.
@@FreedomOfDegree definitely is ;)
Also Julian doesn't have a brother, thought I'd clarify. You would definitely be a candidate if they wanted that plot put in the show tho lol
@@SaltyAsTheSea Yeah 😅 I'm a little "out of the loop" when it comes to pop culture.
@@FreedomOfDegree np lol hell I'm starting to know what that feels like now, all these kiddos saying ohio and watching things on streaming services. Jk lmao but you should DEFFO check out "trailer park boys" the series, starts slow but DAMN do you get hooked. The acting is actually unreal. First time I watched it I was genuinely was wondering if half the shit was actually just going down in some trailer park in Canada 😂😂
That is dangerously addictive 😂
You need to get this to Steve Mould
@@unciePaul I'd be honored. I'd appreciate his take on specifically the squiggles, and the transition condition from squiggles to circle.
@@FreedomOfDegree Steve has done a video on the chain falling out of a container effect, where the chain lifts up and forms funny squiggles, and it seems very relevant to the chain squiggles you get in this video.
@@kindlin I think in that case, the squiggles are from the chaotic initial position of the chain. As they are laid there in the container, they are kinda all over the place. And when they pick up, they have to be pulled in line with the chain, imparting a force in the direction that the chain was in.
@@FreedomOfDegree I think you are right, but you're not giving enough consideration to the chains inertia. As it tries to whip around it will have to work against its own inertia as it accelerates in the curve, and when the curve 'ends' then it still has that angular momentum, causing it to whip one way, then the other, etc., etc.
Its the direction of the airflow. It changes where the squiggle is in relation to the rod. Airflow from top puts moment of squiggle at the unmoving rod which cancels it out allowing it to glide over top of rod.
Such a perfect ‘old youtube’ kind of video. Thank you for posting.
"I thought this was interesting, so I did it many more times"
this is the type of shit id get invested in while my friends just sitting there head in his hands just waiting for his bike chain back.
ladies and gentlemen, a lovely example of the scientific process at work outside of laboratories.
this is something i discovered when i was like 9! very happy to see someone else discover it.
I have no idea how I got here, but this is exactly the kinda shit that original UA-cam was made of. "Hey, I found some neat shit, so I played with it. Here's the video"
Wife: where have you been for the last 2 days?
Me:.... Errrm..
"DOING SCIENCE!!!" 😂😂
"And then I got to thinking." Is what everyone thought before discovering something.
Now this right here is what I call good content
@@matthewkendrick8280 Thanks mate 😘
you can see at 1:40 that the same problem that the big chain has occurs in the small chain when it loses speed, all you need is alot more speed and power for the big chain to spin like a circle
Bouncy chain tickled my dopamine receptors, thank you!
I think the downward angle of the air is contributing to the success. It's pulling the chain around the pipe rather upward air pushing the chain around the pipe
Something about this makes me think Steve Mould would be interested in this.
reminds me of those toys that spin a loop of string really fast and it does something similar
Thanks man, looks like the effect may also be from the angle of the air, when it's pointed down the bouncing of the chain could be dampened further. Vs being lifted up.
@@907npak I agree. Most notably, I tried pointing it upwards and it would catch and flop around.
You just needed a larger input for a bigger chain, that is why with the compressed air the small one spun super easy and the same goes with air from further away it gives more pressure try to blow directly into a trash bag like it is a balloon, and it'll take forever but open it up get about a foot back and blow in, and you just filled it with one breath
@@Hohepunkt That's some of them Bernoulli's Principals. I agree. My nozzle is too small and my air compressor too weak. But it's what I got for now.
This is some of the most important science I've ever seen.
@@lexo632 Glad to be a part of it!
Fun video for sure! Don't forget boys and girls, always drain your compressors after every use so they don't accumulate condensation inside and rust out!
It'll turn an air compressor to a pressure washer as well, lol.
@@Unemployedbahavior I am Mr. Freedom and I approve this message.
2:54 so at first.. mate... please wear body armor and thick protective glasses.
if the chain breaks, u have to deal with an exploding grenade.
additional: this looks exactly like what i would do, when i have to do an important task but my brain trys EVERYTHING to procrastinate :D
@@Lemmiwinks_The_Gerbil_King I put on gloves.
*Edit: eventually.
Dude needs to drain his compressor tank 😂
Steven Mould needs this footage so we can have more of that chain fountain drama
for safety that chain looks like a motorcycle chain, my chain whitstand some pretty epic forces.... (by epic i mean the strenght is epic for whitstanding those forces of a wheelie, 90% throttle pulls ect)
I wonder if the weird bending is due to the connections in the links or the change in speed along the chain?
@@isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676 If I had to guess, there is friction between the plates of the chain (the sticky grease increases this effect), so the angle between 2 links is resistant to change. This can be best seen as the chain snakes over the rod. Instead of dropping straight down, it continues to follow the circular shape of rod. But now the chain has gone past its resting position and it swings back like a pendulum. The same behavior can be seen on the upswing.
@@FreedomOfDegree so maybe if you put some lubricant it will work better!
@@ezmatt I guess I forgot to show it. I did put multi-purpose oil on it, but I don't think it was the make or break of it. A good clean chain should work just as well considering the bracelet is unlubricated.
Reminds me of the chain fountain effect.
@@FreedomOfDegree true, maybe you should’ve tried putting oil on the bracelet to see if it made it better or worse.
Also, you should make a little sprocket and connect it to a motor to spin the big chain faster (or maybe something using friction like the polishing wheel, but faster/variable speed). It might be something to do the mass to velocity ratio of each link, and since compressed air velocity is constant the ratio is much greater for the bigger chain.
This feels related to the Mould effect to me. Have you seen that one? When people pull a chain out of a jar until the weight of the chain can continue pulling itself from the jar? It arcs in a really interesting way.
Now that is a beautiful bracelett
When it comes to rollers and ball-bearings, _never_ exceed the rotational speed they're designed to operate at, especially without sufficient protection. Whether it's from centripetal force, friction, or shear, spinning objects used outside of their safe RPM range can fail in a sudden, dangerous manner. Fragments from the failing object can act like shrapnel and the damage they can do scales with the amount of speed the object is carrying at the point of failure.
@@legoferrari14 I agree. I don't know what tension the chain is rated for, nor do I know how fast it was going. That being said, as an adult I evaluated the risks and determined it was safe enough. I made sure to keep as much of my body outside of the potential failure zone as well as wore gloves and eye protection. I also did not try to push the chain to a faster speed without proper protection.
I would want to build some sort of shield that would allow me to spin up the chain without risking my body, my property, other people's bodies and other people's properties before I go for a faster speed.
Send this video to one of the science UA-camrs so they can figure out what’s up.
Now i want to see a longer chain
I think a longer chain should do the trick. You have way less chackles compared to the small chain.
@@maxzzzie I wanted to, but the longer one had too much inertia for my compressor to overcome.
The dampening caused by the rod allows the chain to relax.
The smaller chain probably becomes circular because the buffing wheel acts as a dampener. Or perhapse the chain itself had some dampening.
@@5hape5hift3r That is a good point, the buffer would definitely gently straighten out the chain. Probably why it was so easy using the buffer.
all i can think of, is where is all that water comming from that's comming out when you shoot that compressed air. when was the last time you drained the tank?
@@renevile I was running it for a long time. It's a smallish portable one, so I make sure to drain it after each use. I live in a god forsaken swamp where it's 110% humidity every day, so after running for so long it condensed a lot of water out of the air. It was dry when I started.
@@FreedomOfDegree i'm impressed at how much it actually was able to collect...
@@renevile I guess I should put a drying agent on the intake.
Good luck picking the shrapnel out of your face! I survived a bearing explosion in the 80s and kept my fingertip. So many rules when using compressed air.
This video felt like one of those summer days where I would be out with the boys and figured out some dumb trick we would all repeat until the lights are out
@@xartemis2147 bring back #ThoseSummerDays
Some day I may use this new found knowledge.
never thought i would be interested by spinning chains yet here i am
@@a_guy8795 That's cuz up until now you'd never even considered the possibility. I hadn't either until it happened with the bracelet on the buffing wheel.
Steve Mould has some cool videos on the golfball paradox and bouncing a ball under a table that might give you some insight into what happened inside the cinderblock.
Very Nice. thank you for share!
I think what makes the difference is the fact that if you angle the compressor nozzle down across the top/side quarter(say the 1 o'clock position) of the chain, as you move air across the chain, it is being pulled, rather than pushed by going across the 11 or 12 o'clock position, where it is being pushed. I am saying push vs pull, because if you look at the pipe from the side view(like the camera angle in the video), there is an "uphill" and a "downhill" on the pipe. At 1, the air was "pulling" the chain downhill, and at 11 or 12, the chain was being "pushed" uphill. That is my theory as to why you had the s-curve occurring at the bottom half of the chain. I could be wrong, and would love to hear other theories.
@@gordonfurness6253 I've heard a couple so far *throughout the comments section. The one I think is the most plausible is that there is friction between the plates. This friction makes the chain want to stay in whatever shape it's in. If the chain is in a circle or a circle segment (like when it travels around the tube), as it transitions to the straight segment on the falling side, the friction tries to make it remain a circle. This makes it overshoot the path that it should take and gravity as well as the pulling force from the rest of the chain ahead of it give it some inertia to swing back like a pendulum. But like a pendulum it overshoots again so it kinda follows a zigzag path on the way down. The friction dampens the movement and the chain eventually straightens out. The same applies to the bottom.
@@FreedomOfDegree Ah, yes, good ol' friction. I hadn't thought about that when I was typing my thesis above. I was too focused on the placement of air.
The right angle according to distance produce pleasant rhythm.
You should be eliminating friction. Mount a small sprocket that matches the chain's pattern to an axle with ball bearings and clips to keep it in place and hang the chain over it and try spinning it.
@@glashoppah That could help. Unfortunately I don't have the hardware in hand right now.
interesting, wonder how it would look if you scaled it up even more
@@bbtbnwjdfotsyk4 I want to sooooo bad. I don't have the resources right now ☹️
how interesting!!! very cool :3
i love this type of tangent experimentation!! ^w^
That unemployed friend on Monday
ohh, someone tried with bearings... kinda dangerous.
hehe spinny thing go brrrrrr
Her: He’s probably thinking about other women
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@@CRANKTHEGROM Women?
Did you do a video on how you did the bracelet? Looks amazing at just the right size! Love it
@@Punisher97 I did not. Maybe if there's enough interest.
This is almost a representation of nuclear magnetic forces as muons and gluons spin. Explain the insane resilence of the system maybe?
You can flew a screwdriver like that.
Bro just reinvented Beywheels
@@pyrojack8230 Flywheels were so sick! They could jump an airplane and drive on water!
Wait what the hell, this youtuber doesnt have 20k subscribers?
You've gotta hella water in your compressed air. Drain your tank, there's probably a ton of water in there
@@greensheen8759 I do. It's a portable and I store it after each use. I also live in a swamp where every day is 110% humidity. I once almost drowned when I walked outside.
Men have simple goals i also want to make big chain spin today
as advertised and even better
great stuff, would love to see more.
have you tried a longer chain with the technique that ended up working? how did that go?
@@Kozzado This was the biggest chain I could get spinning. My air compressor nozzle combination didn't have enough power behind it to get the others past snaking. It might be easier to get one to spin with a buffing wheel, but the tradeoff there is a lower (theoretical) top speed, unless you build a machine specifically for this. For a hobbyist, I'd go for a better air compressor first. Maybe a slightly smaller gauge chain also.
looks like the magic string toy, loved the video ❤
@@hubble5703 Glad you enjoyed!
New land speed record tires here we come!
Shoot the bottom of the chain/tape with the airstream to get it to float. It might have to be a sphere though
@@mr.daydreamer5123 I've seen it done with a screwdriver, though a spheroid would definitely make it easier.
When I tried to shoot the chain from the bottom, it tended to flop around instead of staying a nice circle.
“I thought maybe the problem is the compressed air..”
Cuts chain shorter and uses compressed air…
@@dvig3261 Well it worked didn't it?
There is a drain plug at the bottom of your air compressor. Seems like its time to drain the water sitting in the bottom of your tank? Or is that something else im seeing?
P.s. - im definitely subscribing as spraying random objects with compressed air is my favorite pass time, 2nd only to cat 🐱 videos
@@Iron_Condorr It's probably water. I was running it a long time and in this humidity, it's more of a condenser than a compressor. It's a small portable one so I drain it every time I put it away. Glad you enjoyed 😁
I would think if the chain were longer instead of shorter the physics would take over given enough propulsion I think the smaller version the structure is doing much of the work. If you’re going to scale it up, scale it up.
@@FirstnameLastname-rc8yd I want to but my air compressor doesn't blow hard enough. Definitely will if I get the chance.
@@FreedomOfDegree maybe like a spinning tire?
@@FirstnameLastname-rc8yd That is a good idea. I've never ran a car on jacks though. But even if I got the car going 100 mph, I still think the compressed air would make the chain spin faster (if it has the strength to spin it at all).
@@FreedomOfDegree well car on jacks probably isn’t the safest. Idk just trying to think outside the box.
Well you just got a subscription outta me. Good job at trying all the possible outcomes. After you figured out how to get it to loop did you ever try it again with a larger length?
@@1badombre82 I did with the medium size, I guess I cut that part out 😅. It didn't want to spin. I think my air compressor is not strong enough.
Pure youtube. 10/10
Where in Waldoville did you find those pants?
kinda cathartic that the "problem" you were facing during this experiment probably had to do with the degree of freedom of the chain itself, but this video is picking up steam with the algo 😁😁
@@crionidel One of the reasons I named the channel such is because I threw away the burden of "Thats just how things are." Why? No one makes sauce from beverages. Why not? Could I make friends with the local groundhogs?
I'm not sure if I'm making this point particularly well.
But basically, free your mind/body to seek the answers to whatever you might think of. Don't worry about if other people don't think your ideas/questions aren't very good. Chances are they don't know the answer either.
Where did you get the scale model of the chain???
Calling Steve Mould
This is fun with ball bearings. Spin them up and watch them throw sparks across the floor.
@@724x4acchevy I'll see how big a bearing my local hardware store stocks 😉
*Edit: Wait... I specifically the ball bearing in the ball bearing, but I think you might mean the ball bearing, if you know what I mean.
You should try dousing it on some strong lube to see if the lessened friction allows you to spin a bigger chain
@@kristyandesouza5980 In some cases that can make it harder to spin. A thick lube while very good at protecting the metal can add a lot of drag.
I did try some 3 in 1 oil on the bigger chains but it didn't make too big of a difference. I think in this case either a very light oil, or dry, gives the chain the best chance.
@@FreedomOfDegree how peculiar
The point of propulsion must be close to the point of contact with the pipe.
@@RatoCavernaBR That's probably accurate, as the contact point on the pipe is the only point relative to the pipe that doesn't change. IE the sides of the chain round out, the bottom is pulled up, but the top stays in roughly the same spot and orientation. Good catch.
@@FreedomOfDegree Also it was the only position that worked.
how did you make the small chain bracelet?
How'd you make a scale model like that?
The new fidget spinner .
@@Otis884 Roller chain is a pretty fun fidget toy. I liked it enough to make a bracelet out of it.
It's all about RPM
Thank you so much all of that! I love it all lol I love seemingly pointless things like this (: great just to mess around sometimes because you can
Did the big chain ever hit your fingers when you were spinning it?
Give a guy an air compressor and he'll probably end up hurting himself.
Anyways great video, love the spirit..
@@DemsW I think that applies to any tool.
@@FreedomOfDegree True, but it's particularly tempting to mess around with it.
@@DemsW One of the first things I did when I got it (after fixing it) was to blow air into the dirt. You're right. It might be one of the most tempting to misuse.
Chain drag,along with wieght and diameter and circumstances and rpm all factors, kinda like the weights in old distributors and the springs that attempt to hold them in , little chain was longer but lighter and larger circumference,
Awsome stuff.
fenomenal content
@@MrPomajdor 😘
I didn't know I could be this interested in a spinning piece of metal XD
Let me guess... 98.5% male audience?
@@RelativelyQualifiedEngineer Hey, aren't you working on a spinning piece of metal?
Actually! I'm rocking that 95.8% dude fest. Special thanks to my 3.8% ladies 😘
@@FreedomOfDegree Yeah, but mine isn't as fast unfortunately :(
Looking to change that in the near future ;)
Ok now the chainsaw blade.....
@@Shep01 I'll check my chainsaw blades. If they are easy to resize, definitely.
@@FreedomOfDegree lol don't do this if you value your hand.
@@Shep01 but think of the funny noise it might make when it hits the wood.
You have too much friction. Lubrication will make it go much faster.