Really nice job in explaining this subject matter which can be somewhat complex if over-though. Nice to see someone took the iniative of thoroughly investigating and resolving all the multitude of steps involved in such an effort. Way to go Gord!
Gordon Enjoyed the video very much. I too am not a math genius but the way you put the math into it the way you did helped me see what your doing. I will keep this and use it as soon as I reach that capability. Stay safe and keep up the good work. Thanks again.
Hi Gord great video and tips, I bought the book you recommended by Mr. Allen. Great book and I am making one similar to the one you made here. Cheers Mark
Came across this perusing through your many videos (albeit a little late!) Your teaching skills are absolutely tremendous, and totally concur with jerryhillls post. You explain everything in such a way that makes us feel that you are willing us to succede and that in itself shows sincerety. Brilliant! now for the other eight 👍👍kind regards, Tony(UK)
I'm just getting into turning, it's a winter hobby and winter is coming soon so I'll get back to it. I don't have access to really great local wood of any great size so segmented turning is what I'm most interested in. So far I've only made 5 bowls, they're getting better. I haven't done anything with feature rings yet but I definitely want to have a go at it. So I'm looking forward to the rest of this series. As to the math part, I use an segment calculator on my smart phone, I know not everyone has one but it's an option and the app I use was free.
traog Thanks for the tip! I didn't know there was a segment calculator available. I'll have to see if I can find it. Would you mind telling me what it is called? Thanks for the good word!!!
It is called "Segment Calculator" it is by Byroid Apps. The icon for it is a brown trapezoid with SC on it. It is easy to use, just enter inner radius, outer radius and the number of segments. it gives you cut angle,length and width. Do you have any forums or other sights you'd recommend? So far I'm just on Woodturner's Resource.
traog Unfortunately it looks like this is for Android phones and I'm using an iPhone so I'll have to look elsewhere. As to other websites check out:@I get a lot of inspiration and motivation just by looking at the Gallery.
Trude Jackson Sorry, no website and no books. I'm just a hobbyist and like to share some of the things I've learned in woodworking and woodturning. I'm glad your husband has enjoyed the videos. I hope to put some more up in the near future as time allows. He may want to subscribe to make sure he doesn't miss the next videos. Thanks!!
Gord, I love your videos. This is probably the best explanation of segmented turning I have seen. I really appreciate your work. Your way of explaining things is very down to earth and clear. Some craftsmen like leaving out the “secret ingredient”, but you are great about sharing your wisdom. Keep up the good work. I am still not sure I understand the “floating disc”, but Maybe it will become clear later.
Thank you very much, Jerry. I’m so glad you liked it. I published a video called “Floating Disc Explained” that might be clearer. Check it out if you like. Thanks for watching, Jerry. I appreciate the support! 😃😃😃🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 Happy turning, .....Gord
No apology necessary, Jerry. I’m happy to help! If I wasn’t I wouldn’t be doing the videos. I like to share the little bit that I have learned over the years. Take care, .....Gord
Hello Gordon, Please can you clarify an issue on your scale drawing for the diamond pattern, does the overall segment length of 2.014 (2 inches) INCLUDE the three 1/8th strips? If it does I seem to end up with different dimensions than shown on your sketch. Please keep your videos coming they are a great inspiration. Chris.
Chris Burton Chris, I'm really sorry but I can't remember!! That was so long ago that even looking at the video again doesn't help me. I hope that you use the video as a guide to making the vessel but don't get too caught up in trying to duplicate it. I don't think it's important to make one exactly the same as the one I made but, rather, that you are able to use the techniques to make one of your own. I'm sorry I'm not being more help. I do hope yours turns out as good as you want it to. Thanks for the support; I appreciate it. Take care,.....Gord
Hi Gord, I have yet to find an explanation for the term "dot to dot" I used Ray Allens book for a few designs but cannot find this explained. It doesn't seem to enter into my work but I see you mentioned it in drawing up your project.so I have to ask. Thanks Alan
Jean MacHardy Hi Alan! I use the term for the same reason you would. I saw it in the book of Ray Allen's work. I assume that the term is used because some of the Southwest pottery that he based his work on has actual round dots around the rim. But that's just an assumption and I've been warned what happens when you assume. ;-) Have a good day, Alan.
I am a serious hobbyist woodworker and mainly build furniture in the Art Deco style. I have been doing turning off an on for years but have never really done any serious segmented turnings. I have now decided to do so. I watched this series of 9 episodes a few times. I find them very informative and helpful and really appreciate you taking the time to film them and post the videos here. I considered taking a wood turning course but seeing these has answered the majority of my questions and has helped me to organize my thoughts on what I want to do as my first serious project. Thank you again for taking the time to do this series. Kory www.zussmanfurniture.com
KM Z Hi Kory! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos and really hope they are helpful to you when you do your projects. Thank you for watching and for commenting!!All the best in your turning,.....Gord
Gordon Rock Hi Gord, I do have several questions regarding my planned turning and would love your input. Is it best to ask them here in the public forum or through email? Kory
I wouldn’t call it a magic number. For most segmented projects it just looks best to my eye. You can choose to use almost any number you want. There are times when you might want to use a smaller or larger number for effect on a feature ring, for instance. It’s all a matter of your own preference.
Being in our extremely late 20s isn’t as much fun as we might have thought it would be is it Jean!! I’m too polite to tell you what I think of the “Golden Years”!!! As I tell my kids, getting old beats the alternative. The alternative is not getting older! 😳😳🤔🤔
I have a issue with your math. When you divide the circumference by 16 and say the segmented length should be 1.37445 you are incorrect. The problem is the segment does not follow the circumference but is a series of straight lines. The correct segment length should be 14062., although not a lot you are off about 1/32 per piece. Making the to your dimensions the diameter would be closer to 6.5".
Scott Mellen First of all, you may want to check your decimal place. I can't imagine making a vessel that large! Secondly, I don't claim to be a mathematician but my system has always worked for me and that's all I really care about. We will have to agree to disagree. I'll be happy to see your vessels any time you want to post them. Thanks for watching!!
Really nice job in explaining this subject matter which can be somewhat complex if over-though. Nice to see someone took the iniative of thoroughly investigating and resolving all the multitude of steps involved in such an effort. Way to go Gord!
+goguy19
Thank you very much. I hope you'll enjoy the whole series.
.....Gord
I'm so thankful I took geometry. When I get a lathe I hope to advance to your level some day.
Judith, I’m sure you will get there one day. I imagine geometry will be a big help in segmented turning. Thanks for watching!
Gordon
Enjoyed the video very much. I too am not a math genius but the way you put the math into it the way you did helped me see what your doing. I will keep this and use it as soon as I reach that capability. Stay safe and keep up the good work. Thanks again.
Coyleyman I'm glad you liked it, Coyleyman. Thanks for watching & commenting. I appreciate the support!!
you do great work. glad to see someone else who loves drawing their work out by hand. keep it up.
Matthew Stansberry Thank you Matthew. I'm definitely old-school that way. Thanks for watching.
Hi Gord great video and tips, I bought the book you recommended by Mr. Allen. Great book and I am making one similar to the one you made here.
Cheers Mark
I look forward to seeing it, Mark. I’m sure it will be awesome!
Came across this perusing through your many videos (albeit a little late!) Your teaching skills are absolutely tremendous, and totally concur with jerryhillls post. You explain everything in such a way that makes us feel that you are willing us to succede and that in itself shows sincerety. Brilliant! now for the other eight 👍👍kind regards, Tony(UK)
Wow, thank you, Tony! That's very nice of you. I hope 2022 will be a wonderful year for you! Thank you for watching!
Happy turning,
.....Gord
Yes, I believe I could. Thanks Gord. Watch all of your videos. Thanks for doing them.
I'm glad you enjoy them, Gary. Thanks for watching.
A trick : watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Draven Tate Yup, I've been watching on flixzone for since december myself :D
@Draven Tate Definitely, I've been using Flixzone for since december myself :D
@Draven Tate yea, I have been watching on flixzone for since december myself :)
Brilliant!!! I am looking forward to watching the full series.
Thank you, John! I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for watching.
Take care,
.....Gord
thank you always learning. enjoy your videos
Thank you very much, Garry. I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Happy turning,
.....Gord
I'm just getting into turning, it's a winter hobby and winter is coming soon so I'll get back to it. I don't have access to really great local wood of any great size so segmented turning is what I'm most interested in. So far I've only made 5 bowls, they're getting better. I haven't done anything with feature rings yet but I definitely want to have a go at it. So I'm looking forward to the rest of this series.
As to the math part, I use an segment calculator on my smart phone, I know not everyone has one but it's an option and the app I use was free.
traog Thanks for the tip! I didn't know there was a segment calculator available. I'll have to see if I can find it. Would you mind telling me what it is called? Thanks for the good word!!!
It is called "Segment Calculator" it is by Byroid Apps. The icon for it is a brown trapezoid with SC on it. It is easy to use, just enter inner radius, outer radius and the number of segments. it gives you cut angle,length and width.
Do you have any forums or other sights you'd recommend? So far I'm just on Woodturner's Resource.
traog Unfortunately it looks like this is for Android phones and I'm using an iPhone so I'll have to look elsewhere. As to other websites check out:@I get a lot of inspiration and motivation just by looking at the Gallery.
Gordon Rock Okay, UA-cam won't let me copy the address so try this:segmentedwoodturners dot orgHope it won't mess with that!
Trude Jackson
Sorry, no website and no books. I'm just a hobbyist and like to share some of the things I've learned in woodworking and woodturning. I'm glad your husband has enjoyed the videos. I hope to put some more up in the near future as time allows. He may want to subscribe to make sure he doesn't miss the next videos. Thanks!!
Gord, I love your videos. This is probably the best explanation of segmented turning I have seen. I really appreciate your work. Your way of explaining things is very down to earth and clear. Some craftsmen like leaving out the “secret ingredient”, but you are great about sharing your wisdom. Keep up the good work. I am still not sure I understand the “floating disc”, but Maybe it will become clear later.
Thank you very much, Jerry. I’m so glad you liked it. I published a video called “Floating Disc Explained” that might be clearer. Check it out if you like. Thanks for watching, Jerry. I appreciate the support! 😃😃😃🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Happy turning,
.....Gord
Gord Rock My apologies Gord. I should have looked first.
No apology necessary, Jerry. I’m happy to help! If I wasn’t I wouldn’t be doing the videos. I like to share the little bit that I have learned over the years.
Take care,
.....Gord
Buena presentación, gracias por su tiempo y por habilitar subtítulos.
+Javier García de Cuerva Usted es bienvenido! Gracias por su atención! .....Gord
Hello Gordon, Please can you clarify an issue on your scale drawing for the diamond pattern, does the overall segment length of 2.014 (2 inches) INCLUDE the three 1/8th strips? If it does I seem to end up with different dimensions than shown on your sketch. Please keep your videos coming they are a great inspiration.
Chris.
Chris Burton Chris, I'm really sorry but I can't remember!! That was so long ago that even looking at the video again doesn't help me. I hope that you use the video as a guide to making the vessel but don't get too caught up in trying to duplicate it. I don't think it's important to make one exactly the same as the one I made but, rather, that you are able to use the techniques to make one of your own. I'm sorry I'm not being more help. I do hope yours turns out as good as you want it to. Thanks for the support; I appreciate it. Take care,.....Gord
Hi Gord, I have yet to find an explanation for the term "dot to dot" I used Ray Allens book for a few designs but cannot find this explained. It doesn't seem to enter into my work but I see you mentioned it in drawing up your project.so I have to ask.
Thanks Alan
Jean MacHardy Hi Alan! I use the term for the same reason you would. I saw it in the book of Ray Allen's work. I assume that the term is used because some of the Southwest pottery that he based his work on has actual round dots around the rim. But that's just an assumption and I've been warned what happens when you assume. ;-) Have a good day, Alan.
excellent tutorial, thanks
Thanks very much!
I am a serious hobbyist woodworker and mainly build furniture in the Art Deco style. I have been doing turning off an on for years but have never really done any serious segmented turnings. I have now decided to do so. I watched this series of 9 episodes a few times. I find them very informative and helpful and really appreciate you taking the time to film them and post the videos here. I considered taking a wood turning course but seeing these has answered the majority of my questions and has helped me to organize my thoughts on what I want to do as my first serious project. Thank you again for taking the time to do this series.
Kory
www.zussmanfurniture.com
KM Z Hi Kory! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos and really hope they are helpful to you when you do your projects. Thank you for watching and for commenting!!All the best in your turning,.....Gord
Gordon Rock Thanks Gord! I will send along a picture of what I come up with and post a few on my web site when I have completed it.
Kory
KM Z I look forward to seeing it, Kory. Enjoy the journey!!!
Gordon Rock Hi Gord, I do have several questions regarding my planned turning and would love your input. Is it best to ask them here in the public forum or through email?
Kory
KM Z I've replied through the discussion tab on your channel.
Gord, would it be possible for you to either put your chart up so it could be printed out, or send me an e-mail of the chart?
Sorry, Gary, I didn't keep it. Could you do a screen capture?
Why is a 16 segment ring the magic number?
I wouldn’t call it a magic number. For most segmented projects it just looks best to my eye. You can choose to use almost any number you want. There are times when you might want to use a smaller or larger number for effect on a feature ring, for instance. It’s all a matter of your own preference.
Actually using some of the math we learned 55 or maybe closer to 60 years ago. Oh no, I'm getting old.
Being in our extremely late 20s isn’t as much fun as we might have thought it would be is it Jean!! I’m too polite to tell you what I think of the “Golden Years”!!! As I tell my kids, getting old beats the alternative. The alternative is not getting older! 😳😳🤔🤔
I have a issue with your math. When you divide the circumference by 16 and say the segmented length should be 1.37445 you are incorrect. The problem is the segment does not follow the circumference but is a series of straight lines. The correct segment length should be 14062., although not a lot you are off about 1/32 per piece. Making the to your dimensions the diameter would be closer to 6.5".
Scott Mellen First of all, you may want to check your decimal place. I can't imagine making a vessel that large! Secondly, I don't claim to be a mathematician but my system has always worked for me and that's all I really care about. We will have to agree to disagree. I'll be happy to see your vessels any time you want to post them. Thanks for watching!!