Distinction between thoughts and thinking must be understood. When thoughts are unobserved, it becomes thinking. Thinking is mental action (karm). And thinking creates thinker (karta). The general understanding is that the thinker is the cause of thinking. But the truth is that thinking is the cause of thinker. This can be personally verified with Meditation. When you observe thoughts, it doesn't get a chance to become thinking. And as a result, thinker too disappears. Now, thinker is not just a lie. But it is also the source of suffering. It creates desires and as a result, fear and greed. Thinker interferes with thinking. It not just interferes with thinking, it interferes with observation itself. So it becomes important to get rid of thinker, which is not just an innocent lie, but a rather harmful lie. When thinking happens with this understanding (self-knowledge), it becomes thinker-less thinking. This is what being referred as "Nishkaam Karm" in Gita.
Abhishek ji you have make it easier to understand krisnamurty 99% people can not understand because of block of mind and too much repressed religious thought 😉. Well done Abhishek ji .keep on evolving. Namaste 🙏
True, the mechanism you are using is thought to observing thoughts , and when to see trees and not identify it as green or according to your conditioning and if you want to communicate you have to use language which is of past or knowledge and what is observing or attentive is thought about thought try to watch the or get the elimination of past conditions which is store in memory which is help to communicate or survival, Hunger and appetite, also of identification of eating meats or whatever presents or demand by the situation and taking pleasure of killing and eating for appetite and believe me all the saint and saviour doesn't got the hunger situation ask a army or person livingin snow area where definition of hunger goes beyond 10 days where every possibility of plant or leave or grass is not possible but begging and getting food you give or set as hunger which is eliminated 2 days or 1 day its up to you. Whether in science or spiritual there is always an assumption of point of reference to make things easy , people say don't forget your root , or be traditional or we are losing our culture i ask what culture before krishna or rama or shiv or other possible or books saying or thought , faith , believe so on so so
@@lifesimplifiedhindi bhaiya kripya iss sawaal ka aap jawaan zaroor dena ki kya Bina veragye ke hum adhyatm me aage badh sakte , dhyaan bhakti dono me ek hi chiz dikhti he ki jab tak humara dhyaan sansaar ke raag par rahega tab tak hum n dhyaan me gato kar paate he n bhakti me baaki jitne aatmgyani hue bhi unme ek jiz common thi ki vo raag se mukt the par hamare mann me sansaar pehle he baaki sab baate baad me bhaiya mai karib 3 se 4 osho , kabhi krishnmurthy ko kabhi acharya Prashant , Raman maharishi shankaracharya par inn sab ko sunne padhne ke baad bhi jivan me koyi rupantaran hi nhi he me Tass se mass nhi hua jivan vahi ka vahi he balki thodi aur pareshan ho gya abb mann me sawaal aata he ki jab vairag he hi nhi ichhao se to kya karunga inhe sunkar padh kar sunta hu jaroor ki jivan asaar he par anubhav me kaha isilye raag hi pehla he abhi mere andar aur bina verag ke adhaytan ki sidhhi nhi Chad sakte kya ye meri soch adhyaatm ko lekar kya sankirn he kya Bina verag bhi adhyatm he iss par thodi baat kahe please
Best process is chanting Hare Krishna 🙏🏻 it’s the quickest process and results are permanent and auspicious. god realization and self realization goes hand in hand. Lord Vishnu is the source of everything is a knowledge. It’s the easiest process.
Maine kitne saal khoj ki kabhi kisi ko suna kabhi kisi ko pr aj tk kisi ka gyaan mera curiosity ka answer nahi kr paya !!!!!!!!!! Mai sochti hu yeh jo bhi new old spiritual philosopher hai yeh itna mushkil words mein kyo lecture dete hai kyo simple words mein kyo nahi likhte bolte???
Mero ko energy pareshan krti h (just like bhut pret) usi ke baad jb meine spirituality ki oor bda to kuch alg anubhav huye ab mein inko kabu kr sakta hu yeh mere body ke andar ek jgh baithe jate hai.,..... Yeh mere liye life khi problems create kr rhe h , Naa to mein iss duniya sath badh paa rha hu na hi spiritual path pr..... Haaa. Mere pass kuch energy hai jinse mein kuch future part dekh sakta hu kabhi kabhi. Mera question yeh hai ki is problem ka solution hai?
Ek question puchana hai. Isks answer aaj tak kisi ne nhi diya. Question hai - mere dekhe huye sapne exact pure ho jate hai. Iska kya matlab hai. Mujhe lagta hai mujhe ishwar ki kripa prapt hai. Apko kya lagta hai
Ishwar ki kripa toh sab par hai.. aur jahan tak sapno ki baat hai toh aisa ho hi sakta hai.. but itne kam information se koi kisi nishkarsha par nahi jasakta kyunki apke sath exactly kya horaha hai ye jaan ne ke liye kisi ko aapse baat karna aur apke perspective ko samajhna jaruri hai.
Bhaiya kya hum bina verag kahi pahuch bhi sakte he jab mann me ashha saari raag me he to n dhyaan sambhav he n bhakti jitne mukt purush rahe sabhi raag se mukt the unme koyi ichha nhi thi 3 saal se me osho , krishnmurthy, raman maharishi, adi shankar aur acharya prashant sabhi ko padh sunn raha hu par jivan me koyi rupantaran nahi he jaha tha vahi hu abhi aur thong karna shuru kar deta hu dekho mujhe kitna aata he ye mere ahnkaar ko hi pusht karta he isiliye mujhe yahi anubhav hota he ki bina vairagye adhyatm sambhav hi nhi lagta kyoki jab tak sansaar se raag he tab tak jaagunga kese , jab dikha hi nhi ki dukh hi sukh ke kapde pehn aaya he to kaha se me yatra karunga bhaiya mere sawaal ka jawaab zaroor de me haar haara sa anubhav kar raha hu dekh raha hu mann bin pende ka ghada he fir bhi raag hi raag he veraag jab tak n ho adhyatm kese falega ??
Isme harne wali koi baat nahi hai.. ye sab ke sath hota hai.. aapko aage badhne ke liye bhi in sab anubhavon ka hona jaruri hai. Aap zen yoga padhiye sahi rasta mil jayega 🙏🏼
Sir apne kabhi U.G krishnamurti ko suna hai ????? Jiddu krishnamurti le sath U. G krishnamurti ko sun k plz video jroor bnanan im pretty sure you won’t regret it
this will happen only bcz krishnamurti is very tough to understand for common people like us so first i wouldd recommend u ki aap zen yoga practice kro fir jab aap critical certain stage tak phonchjaoge to aapki awareness itni gehri hojayegi ki aap unke baato ko smjhna shuru hoojayega ya tak ki unki baato ki bhi zrurat nhi pdhegi aap khud hi discover krloge
Sir me çoppiterion ki taiyarri kar raha hu sir class me lecture dekhte time me pata nahi kis thought ke sath chala jaat hu or mera focus lecture pe nahi rehta ,fir baapas aata hu fir bhatak jaat hu pleas sir,or koi mujhse baat kar raha hai to mera man dusre thoughts me ulaj jaat hai fir baad me vo inshaan kehta hai tum meri baat sun to rahe ho na dhyaan se sir me kya karu pleas😢
Everything is fine but you are wrong a couple of points. You said thinker makes individual. This is wrong. Thinker makes a personality. In meditation this personality, this mask is dropped and you become an individual. Individual means indivisible. The truth or reality is non-dual and indivisible. It is neither singular nor plural. You are also wrong on the observer effect and double slit experiment. Observer effect is an idea that observing a system or phenomenon changes it. In observation the wave function collapses. The coherence is broken. It is a measurement problem. In science the observer need not be a person. It can be a detector also. So the definition of observer is not settled in science. This situation is different in spirituality. Observation is for outer objects and witnessing is for inner objects (emotions and thoughts). So in spirituality the observer becomes a witness (a sakshi). In a society there is a watchman, who is watching people coming and going. He doesn't become a witness. You can also see the CCTV later for any lapses of the watchman. In witnessing the thoughts cease and you attain to no-mind and can see the reality as it is. This Buddha calls Tathata or Suchness. In this state you see the reality as it is. Patanjali calls it chitta vritti nirodha. This state gives Kaivalya Samadhi. This is that Enlightenment. Otherwise, the mind creates Maya or an illusion 😂🤣 #Observer #Witness #Sakshi #Samadhi #Enlightenment
Kio kya hua....aap apna lifestyle change kro...body fitness pe dhyan do...sabki help kro jitni ho ske....yhi life ka maksad ha...khud ko jaanne ko koshish kro
@@shwetajain4476 गलत ये है कि कृष्णमूर्ति बोलते हैं कि यह उनका खुद का दर्शन है, उन्होंने इस दर्शन को बनाया है। जबकि कृष्ण भगवान पहले ही बोल चुके हैं कि "हे पार्थ, मैं ही दृष्टा हूँ, और मैं ही दृश्य हूँ" ।
@@rohit--------5656 wo kisi ko enlighten nhi karna chahta the, unki teaching humans life aur uske problem ke solution pe based thi Please go and watch as I can't explain about him here
Distinction between thoughts and thinking must be understood.
When thoughts are unobserved, it becomes thinking. Thinking is mental action (karm). And thinking creates thinker (karta).
The general understanding is that the thinker is the cause of thinking. But the truth is that thinking is the cause of thinker.
This can be personally verified with Meditation. When you observe thoughts, it doesn't get a chance to become thinking. And as a result, thinker too disappears.
Now, thinker is not just a lie. But it is also the source of suffering. It creates desires and as a result, fear and greed. Thinker interferes with thinking. It not just interferes with thinking, it interferes with observation itself.
So it becomes important to get rid of thinker, which is not just an innocent lie, but a rather harmful lie.
When thinking happens with this understanding (self-knowledge), it becomes thinker-less thinking. This is what being referred as "Nishkaam Karm" in Gita.
Thanks Abhishek Bhai...it's been 2 months I started reading j krishnamurti books...this video is very much helpful....
@@rakeshsahoo675 I am happy that it helped you Rakesh.. stay blessed 😇
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Abhishek ji you have make it easier to understand krisnamurty 99% people can not understand because of block of mind and too much repressed religious thought 😉. Well done Abhishek ji .keep on evolving. Namaste 🙏
@@official_gcs thank you Nirmal ji 🙏🏼
विचार को देखने का विचार भी एक विचार ही है और एक समय पर एक ही विचार होता है
True, the mechanism you are using is thought to observing thoughts , and when to see trees and not identify it as green or according to your conditioning and if you want to communicate you have to use language which is of past or knowledge and what is observing or attentive is thought about thought try to watch the or get the elimination of past conditions which is store in memory which is help to communicate or survival, Hunger and appetite, also of identification of eating meats or whatever presents or demand by the situation and taking pleasure of killing and eating for appetite and believe me all the saint and saviour doesn't got the hunger situation ask a army or person livingin snow area where definition of hunger goes beyond 10 days where every possibility of plant or leave or grass is not possible but begging and getting food you give or set as hunger which is eliminated 2 days or 1 day its up to you. Whether in science or spiritual there is always an assumption of point of reference to make things easy , people say don't forget your root , or be traditional or we are losing our culture i ask what culture before krishna or rama or shiv or other possible or books saying or thought , faith , believe so on so so
1st time i realy understand what Krishnamurthy wants to say since we are not that develped spiritually 👏🏻
@@ankitk1234-i5 🙏🏼
नायमात्मा प्रवचनेन लभ्यः ।
thanks nd god bless u ji
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Lots of gratitude sir Pranam
आपके समझाने का तरीका बहुत ही बढ़िया है
Very informative thank you so much ❤
Glad it was helpful!
great 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Thnkuuuuuu Thnkuuuuuu soooooo muchhhh for sharing this Great video Sir🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍
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Thanku ❤
Beyond is in the beginning of time psychologically
Nice explanation ❤
Good explanation 🙏
Thank you🙏
@@ChandaSingh-wb6eb 🙏🏼
Gratitude ❤
Dhanyewaad bhaiya j Krishnamurthy ji ko itne aasaani se samjha Diya
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@@lifesimplifiedhindi bhaiya kripya iss sawaal ka aap jawaan zaroor dena ki kya Bina veragye ke hum adhyatm me aage badh sakte , dhyaan bhakti dono me ek hi chiz dikhti he ki jab tak humara dhyaan sansaar ke raag par rahega tab tak hum n dhyaan me gato kar paate he n bhakti me baaki jitne aatmgyani hue bhi unme ek jiz common thi ki vo raag se mukt the par hamare mann me sansaar pehle he baaki sab baate baad me bhaiya mai karib 3 se 4 osho , kabhi krishnmurthy ko kabhi acharya Prashant , Raman maharishi shankaracharya par inn sab ko sunne padhne ke baad bhi jivan me koyi rupantaran hi nhi he me Tass se mass nhi hua jivan vahi ka vahi he balki thodi aur pareshan ho gya abb mann me sawaal aata he ki jab vairag he hi nhi ichhao se to kya karunga inhe sunkar padh kar sunta hu jaroor ki jivan asaar he par anubhav me kaha isilye raag hi pehla he abhi mere andar aur bina verag ke adhaytan ki sidhhi nhi Chad sakte kya ye meri soch adhyaatm ko lekar kya sankirn he kya Bina verag bhi adhyatm he iss par thodi baat kahe please
Very good!
Simply you are not the experiencer you are the whole experience
Bhai ji aap jesa bole ego death isko toh me har meditation me anubhav kerta hun but kabhi dar nhi laga . 😊 apne aap se kya darna .
Thanks sir...aap ne bhut achi informataion di...u r great person
@@sherrygarg9557 Most welcome 🙏🏼
I like your video very much 🎉
@@mahendrasingh3280 🙏🏼
Vary nicely explained ❤
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Best process is chanting Hare Krishna 🙏🏻 it’s the quickest process and results are permanent and auspicious. god realization and self realization goes hand in hand. Lord Vishnu is the source of everything is a knowledge. It’s the easiest process.
Good sir ji
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Sir can you make video on total attention by j Krishnamurti plse
Excellent bro 👍
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@@RajKumar-fr8io 🙏🏼
Maine kitne saal khoj ki kabhi kisi ko suna kabhi kisi ko pr aj tk kisi ka gyaan mera curiosity ka answer nahi kr paya !!!!!!!!!!
Mai sochti hu yeh jo bhi new old spiritual philosopher hai yeh itna mushkil words mein kyo lecture dete hai kyo simple words mein kyo nahi likhte bolte???
Please make video on brahma kumari ?
श्रद्धेय ए नागराज जी, प्रणेता :मध्यस्थ दर्शन सह- अस्तित्व अस्तित्ववाद के बारे में भी कुछ जानकारी दे। 😊
Mero ko energy pareshan krti h (just like bhut pret) usi ke baad jb meine spirituality ki oor bda to kuch alg anubhav huye ab mein inko kabu kr sakta hu yeh mere body ke andar ek jgh baithe jate hai.,.....
Yeh mere liye life khi problems create kr rhe h , Naa to mein iss duniya sath badh paa rha hu na hi spiritual path pr.....
Haaa. Mere pass kuch energy hai jinse mein kuch future part dekh sakta hu kabhi kabhi.
Mera question yeh hai ki is problem ka solution hai?
Iske bhi beyond jana hai
Bhoot pret nhi hote dost apne healthper focuskero 😊
@@godpinakyt how you know that
Ek question puchana hai. Isks answer aaj tak kisi ne nhi diya. Question hai - mere dekhe huye sapne exact pure ho jate hai. Iska kya matlab hai. Mujhe lagta hai mujhe ishwar ki kripa prapt hai. Apko kya lagta hai
Ishwar ki kripa toh sab par hai.. aur jahan tak sapno ki baat hai toh aisa ho hi sakta hai.. but itne kam information se koi kisi nishkarsha par nahi jasakta kyunki apke sath exactly kya horaha hai ye jaan ne ke liye kisi ko aapse baat karna aur apke perspective ko samajhna jaruri hai.
यही है Aurobindo का supramental.
त्याला साक्षीभाव म्हणतात...
Bhaiya kya hum bina verag kahi pahuch bhi sakte he jab mann me ashha saari raag me he to n dhyaan sambhav he n bhakti jitne mukt purush rahe sabhi raag se mukt the unme koyi ichha nhi thi 3 saal se me osho , krishnmurthy, raman maharishi, adi shankar aur acharya prashant sabhi ko padh sunn raha hu par jivan me koyi rupantaran nahi he jaha tha vahi hu abhi aur thong karna shuru kar deta hu dekho mujhe kitna aata he ye mere ahnkaar ko hi pusht karta he isiliye mujhe yahi anubhav hota he ki bina vairagye adhyatm sambhav hi nhi lagta kyoki jab tak sansaar se raag he tab tak jaagunga kese , jab dikha hi nhi ki dukh hi sukh ke kapde pehn aaya he to kaha se me yatra karunga bhaiya mere sawaal ka jawaab zaroor de me haar haara sa anubhav kar raha hu dekh raha hu mann bin pende ka ghada he fir bhi raag hi raag he veraag jab tak n ho adhyatm kese falega ??
Isme harne wali koi baat nahi hai.. ye sab ke sath hota hai.. aapko aage badhne ke liye bhi in sab anubhavon ka hona jaruri hai. Aap zen yoga padhiye sahi rasta mil jayega 🙏🏼
@@lifesimplifiedhindi dheek he bhaiya
JK is neither logic nor maths.
He plays mind tricks with his followers for money😂
@Kunal-yn9xs No sir, he is beyond that and very profound.
Sir apne kabhi U.G krishnamurti ko suna hai ????? Jiddu krishnamurti le sath U. G krishnamurti ko sun k plz video jroor bnanan im pretty sure you won’t regret it
I think so I am.
when ego disappear then who experience fear tell me
No, fear comes before ego disappears not after it.
ok@@lifesimplifiedhindi
ohh ok @@lifesimplifiedhindi
@@lifesimplifiedhindi sir even in thoughtless state i see my consciousness as individual ? so means even thoughtlessness there is ego?
Dimag ka dahi palak kardiya,
@@chandramohansharma4684 Apologies 🙏🏼
this will happen only bcz krishnamurti is very tough to understand for common people like us so first i wouldd recommend u ki aap zen yoga practice kro fir jab aap critical certain stage tak phonchjaoge to aapki awareness itni gehri hojayegi ki aap unke baato ko smjhna shuru hoojayega ya tak ki unki baato ki bhi zrurat nhi pdhegi aap khud hi discover krloge
Make a vlog on the great thinker UG Krishnamurti
Ek blank स्टेट ka anubhav hota hai .to ye kya hai ek silence jo bdti ja rhi hai . Jaisa ki deep sleep main hota hai
@@status_bawa513 meditation
@@lifesimplifiedhindi ager ye meditation hai to . Ise aa gye kaise bda jaye .
Sir me çoppiterion ki taiyarri kar raha hu sir class me lecture dekhte time me pata nahi kis thought ke sath chala jaat hu or mera focus lecture pe nahi rehta ,fir baapas aata hu fir bhatak jaat hu pleas sir,or koi mujhse baat kar raha hai to mera man dusre thoughts me ulaj jaat hai fir baad me vo inshaan kehta hai tum meri baat sun to rahe ho na dhyaan se sir me kya karu pleas😢
Same bro
@@AnuragShakya-pj2uh start with om chanting and meditation for 5 min
Sir or bhi practice bataiye me saari karunga bas mujhe focus ,jabardast Karna Hai pleas❤
Bhai j krishnamurti enlightenment hokar bhi rebirth ko nahi mante they to unka purpose kya tha woh kya kehna chahte they
UG Krishnamurti..please make a video on Natural state.
Sir Krishnamurti ji pe or video bnao plz
Sure 👍
Kya bol rahe hai... Mujhe kuch samajh me ni aaya😢 .. 10x clarity aur example hota to kuch samajh me aata..
@@Rohit-ik2qv apologies 🙏🏼
Everything is fine but you are wrong a couple of points. You said thinker makes individual. This is wrong. Thinker makes a personality. In meditation this personality, this mask is dropped and you become an individual. Individual means indivisible. The truth or reality is non-dual and indivisible. It is neither singular nor plural. You are also wrong on the observer effect and double slit experiment. Observer effect is an idea that observing a system or phenomenon changes it. In observation the wave function collapses. The coherence is broken. It is a measurement problem. In science the observer need not be a person. It can be a detector also. So the definition of observer is not settled in science. This situation is different in spirituality. Observation is for outer objects and witnessing is for inner objects (emotions and thoughts). So in spirituality the observer becomes a witness (a sakshi). In a society there is a watchman, who is watching people coming and going. He doesn't become a witness. You can also see the CCTV later for any lapses of the watchman. In witnessing the thoughts cease and you attain to no-mind and can see the reality as it is. This Buddha calls Tathata or Suchness. In this state you see the reality as it is. Patanjali calls it chitta vritti nirodha. This state gives Kaivalya Samadhi. This is that Enlightenment. Otherwise, the mind creates Maya or an illusion 😂🤣 #Observer #Witness #Sakshi #Samadhi #Enlightenment
I agree.. I just tried to put it out in a simple way so that even an average person can understand 🙏🏼
Sir kya bina spirituality k zindgi bkvaas hai kya hum adani ambani ki trh busy nhi rh skte life m
@@shinedoll9692 ye toh aapki choice hai..
@@lifesimplifiedhindi Sir m confuse ho chuki hu m kya kru life ka apni
Kio kya hua....aap apna lifestyle change kro...body fitness pe dhyan do...sabki help kro jitni ho ske....yhi life ka maksad ha...khud ko jaanne ko koshish kro
@@sherrygarg9557 meri sochne smjne ki cspicty khtm ho chuki hai ghr k ldai jghdo se
@@sherrygarg9557 kese fitness pr kese khud ko kese jaane
Wrong interpretation
Please pin
भाई ये बात पहले से ही भागवत गीता में कृष्ण भगवान ने बता रखी है। Copy कर रखा है कृष्णमूर्ति ने 😡😡
To kya glt h... Kisi ki btao hui achi baato ko fir s samne lana... Jese books m sb likha huaa h to kya koi pda, smjha nhi skta ...
@@shwetajain4476 गलत ये है कि कृष्णमूर्ति बोलते हैं कि यह उनका खुद का दर्शन है, उन्होंने इस दर्शन को बनाया है। जबकि कृष्ण भगवान पहले ही बोल चुके हैं कि "हे पार्थ, मैं ही दृष्टा हूँ, और मैं ही दृश्य हूँ" ।
Kisne kya bola is vivad me na pad ke baat ko samjhe🙏🏼
@@sajanoberoi krishna ki baten krishna ko hi samjh aayi bas, kuch nhi hua Desh ka🤣🤣 drishta sapera madari bane ghumate the
Lagta h aapne serial vali kishn leela dekhi hogi . 😊.
Bhai j krishnamurti enlightenment hokar bhi rebirth ko nahi mante they to unka purpose kya tha woh kya kehna chahte they
Wo koi guru bhagwan banke hagnA nhi chata tha
@@rohit--------5656 complete bakwas the
Rebirth ek romantic spirituality hai . Film industry fallow karunga mai esi CHIZ dekhne ke liye
@@mksap144 to fir j krishnamurti baki ke logon ko enlightened karna kyun chahte they
@@rohit--------5656 wo kisi ko enlighten nhi karna chahta the, unki teaching humans life aur uske problem ke solution pe based thi
Please go and watch as I can't explain about him here
I have already explained this in my previous videos 👇🏽
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