Hi Avian, Oh, no, that 37mm cannon does not "saw". It's rate of fire is actually slow. If it was any faster then it would destabilize the plane (heck of a lot of kick on that gun). So the trick is to aim. Also, that cannon round is relatively slow (again, they kept the powder charge low in order to reduce recoil), and so pilots have to learn a different drop and lead for the cannon. American pilots did not like it, because they wanted to fire machine gun and cannon at the same time, and were disappointed when they went in two different directions. So, yes, with the P-39 you had to make up your mind whether you were going to do a machine gun pass or a squint and aim cannon pass. The advantage of the cannon is that in most cases, just landing one round would be enough to blow a plane out of the air.
Hi Stitch2k1, Yeah, oftentimes I know that people are speaking figuratively and not in a precisely literal way, but, well, I love to hear myself talk, and if I see an occasion for knocking out a paragraph or two concerning something that I had thought about before, I take it. Gamers game. Writers write.
It's a reference to the stupid flex seal commercial lol. Also the M4 37mm muzzle velocity wasn't too bad, it was still 610 m/s, not far off from the German 20mm MG151/20 muzzle velocity of ~690 m/s
Ooooh, that was satisfying to watch, specially on ultrawide, I had to see it again. Wonderful watching a marksman shooting that elephant gun. Thought the music fit like a glove... oh yeah. Thanks.
Most pilots that flew the P-39 back in the day liked it. I certainly like it from a simulator point of view, with a unique, well laid out cockpit, lively handling, and equal performance with enemy fighters down low to medium altitudes. The cannon helps as well.
Hi Kolbpilot, Well, there was one squirrelly thing about the P-39, and I don't know whether the Sim Software factors it in, but the plane was built with a center of gravity that factored in a full load of ammunition, and those cannon rounds are heavy. If a pilot would empty his guns, both machine guns and cannon, well, the front of the plane would get very light. Remember, the P-39 was a mid engine configuration to begin with (engine behind the pilot) and so the center of gravity would slip back behind the center of lift, and so in any sharp maneuver, there was a likelihood that the plane would go sideways and start flat spinning. So basically, in a combat situation and you fired yourself dry, well, you were kind of stuck with running away in a straight line. Maybe slipping forward in your seat would help...
@@scottweiss9618 : Maybe the best idea would be to use the 37mm cannon only when intercepting enemy bombers or ground strafing. So in a dogfight against enemy fighters, you'd always have a full load of cannon ammunition to help balance the aircraft.
@@timonsolus Good Morning Tim, this is what you said: "Maybe the best idea would be to use the 37mm cannon only when intercepting enemy bombers or ground strafing. So in a dogfight against enemy fighters, you'd always have a full load of cannon ammunition to help balance the aircraft." Look at Military Doctrines, and I was in the military myself once. The Priority is not Personal Survival but to accomplish the mission. Now, what that means is that the only times a fighter pilot is to engage with other Fighter Planes is either during Pursuit Missions when escorting Bombers or Transports, and lone wolves often do seek and destroy, because it is easy for single planes to sneak up on other planes, since until they are right up in gun range, they're just tiny dots in the sky. When Fighters are assigned to intercept Bombers, no, they are not supposed to allow themselves to be drawn off into dogfights with their escorts. The enemy has already won when you are expending ammo on fighters and not Bombers. I heard the Herman Goring, Commander of the German Luffwaffa, instead of assigning KILLS to German Fighter Pilots downing Allied Fighter Planes, proposed it would be better to discipline such pilots for cowardice in not facing up to the Bombers which was their mission. But if the mission is to destroy fighters, then, well, the 37mm Cannon is a great weapon. There is a UA-cam Channel, Arianne Scharfi, a German Girl, who a few years back was flying a P-39 and doing a wonderful job with it. That Girl knows how to use her quadrant sight, and often she would not use her machine gun fire but simply wait until the sights were just right and push that cannon button once. The P-39's other armament is just a few 30 caliber machine guns. But, yeah, it still is a big problem, if you expend your entire cannon magazine and THEN decide to get into a Dog Fight where you are pulling high G turns. So you might have to bail out when the plane goes into a flat spin. But I really doubt whether the Games are really programming in the true aerodynamic characteristics of these planes. It seems like that would be a lot of programming for the sake of Perfection, but these Predatory Private For Profit Companies only have to fool kids most the time. My guess is that many of these programmed planes fly almost exactly the same. But you might know more about that than I do.
@@scottweiss9618 : A couple of points: 1. You can’t accomplish your mission if you’re dead. So personal survival is important. 2. While a fighter may have the mission of intercepting bombers, that doesn’t mean it can just ignore an enemy fighter that gets into a firing position on it. Evasive action is necessary at that point. And if you can’t easily shake the enemy off with one manoeuvre, and your wingman can’t resolve the situation, then your personal survival becomes the top priority, as ignoring the enemy will get you shot down. 3. Scoring hits with the P-39 37 mm cannon with deflection shooting on a turning target was extremely difficult because of the M4 cannon’s low muzzle velocity and the slow rate of fire (only 5 rounds in a 2 second burst). So against fighter targets, only a surprise attack on a target flying straight would be likely to hit.
@@timonsolus Good Afternoon Tim, this is what you said this time: "A couple of points: 1. You can’t accomplish your mission if you’re dead. So personal survival is important. 2. While a fighter may have the mission of intercepting bombers, that doesn’t mean it can just ignore an enemy fighter that gets into a firing position on it. Evasive action is necessary at that point. And if you can’t easily shake the enemy off with one manoeuvre, and your wingman can’t resolve the situation, then your personal survival becomes the top priority, as ignoring the enemy will get you shot down. 3. Scoring hits with the P-39 37 mm cannon with deflection shooting on a turning target was extremely difficult because of the M4 cannon’s low muzzle velocity and the slow rate of fire (only 5 rounds in a 2 second burst). So against fighter targets, only a surprise attack on a target flying straight would be likely to hit." Excuse me, but allow me to ask, what branch of the military were you in? Concerns for Personal Safety are actually traits of Cowardice. Yeah, I understand Cowardice. Who isn't a Coward, right? But the Mission is always First! Also, although the rate of fire from those cannons is an astonishing 150 rounds per minute (5 every two seconds) well, can you guess what a BURST would be doing to your Flight Characteristics. Pilots would just be squeezing off a shot at a time. I was wondering how you were thinking that it would be so common to run out of Cannon Ammo... you were thinking of it like another BIG Machine Gun. It's not! I heard American Pilots HATED the 39, and probably for the reasons that you mentioned, that American Pilots were too stupid to calculate lead for a slower Projectile ... yeah, I was talking about being able to use a Quadrant Sight... Tim, you only have to count the Circles to establish your Lead. Stupid Americans needed high velocity rounds like the 50 Caliber so they could "shoot straight"... otherwise they'd miss. Russians had not problem... the Soviets taught Geometry in School. But, yeah, for a Gamer I guess your thinking isn't bad. I was just thinking Real World.
Freaking realistic.. I love the way your dad keeps track of the target and your airframe roles around the view Awesome effects on the exhaust.. perfect .
Great flying and shooting with this plane. I have never played the last IL2 version btw but in the versions before the P39 was really difficult to fly with.
Great video, sharp shooting, cloud surfing water fx to die for.. I'm still flying Flying Steppes BOS campaign, cannot wait to get into BOK. Happy hunting o7
There's no doubt the P39 has the firepower it was nice to see it as a interceptor, thanks for the idea but i'm happy the 39 had a frontal attack on a 109 because there's no Way!!!! Thanks for keeping it real, besides a 39 was mainly a ground support platform. Good vid.
"besides a 39 was mainly a ground support platform." Well considering the Soviets were the ones who used it the most and they primarily used it as an air superiority fighter/interceptor I'm not sure that's true. The Soviets had the armored IL-2 Sturmovik for ground attack.
@@cambium0 dunno how it was with cobras but acording to pokryshkin memories they used fighter to ground attack. Migs, I-15, I-16, with yaks and laggs im not sure
Yeah, that cannon would be certain death, if you could land a round. A lot of pilots never got used to the slow curved trajectory of the 37mm cannon rounds which required the pilot to factor in a lot more drop and lead then with the higher velocity machine guns.
Yep, not a good idea to go in close to the He-111 H16 as that HMG up top is a fighter killer in one or two hits. The P-39 may have been notorious as one of the worst dogfighters of WW2 but here it is excelling at the role it was specifically designed for, killing bombers. A typical Wings of Liberty server Axis bomber sortie..... no fighter protection!!
Oh, yeah, everybody, it seems that the P-39 with its mid-engine design already had a problem where its center of gravity was only inches away from going behind its center of lift, but that it was okay as long as it was carrying fuel and full load of ammo, but after being in the air for a while, and if the pilot actually shot a lot at anything, then the center of gravity would sneak back behind the center of lift so that in a high speed stall (trying too hard to out turn another fighter) which in any other plane would just be an 'oops' moment, well, in the P-39 it would throw the plane into a wild flat spin that few people survived to talk about. Mostly it was just witnessed. They wanted test pilots to study the phenomena, but they all said 'phuque that!'.
Russia received a bunch of these in lend lease. The pilots loved them because they were good for close ground support against the Nazis. It had a low air ceiling which made them poor fighters against other planes, so the Soviets played to the strengths of the aircraft..
Still new to the game, I had my first "beautiful kill" in a P-39 just two days ago (meaning - a kill that looks like the pilot knows what he is doing). It's rather difficult not to get lit up by the He111 gunners. I loved flying P-39 in the original Il2-Sturmovik game, but man it's years ago and I am quite rusty. In the original game, the cannon would make a BOOM and the recoil would actually slow your plane, quite a difference to the BoX version, it goes more "ZAP" than "BOOM" and it doesn't seem to shake the cockpit nearly as much - but man ... is this game wonderful or what? Thanks for the awesome vid! ua-cam.com/video/3qvCuKD9vWs/v-deo.html
which is exactly why Russians loved it so much ... it was set up the same as theyr own planes + that 37mm cannon did short work of any bombers and i can imagine how Stuka looked after getting hit by one of those shells ...
Rediculous. Your own canon is so accurate and effective it seems to shoot guided missiles but when you get hit yourself you just fly home. It might look realsitic but it surely isn't.
p-39 is a pretty neat plane design
well until you wanna bail
TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF M4, I SAWED THIS PLANE IN HALF!!!!
AvianAviator NOW THATS ALOTTA DAMAGE
Hi Avian, Oh, no, that 37mm cannon does not "saw". It's rate of fire is actually slow. If it was any faster then it would destabilize the plane (heck of a lot of kick on that gun). So the trick is to aim. Also, that cannon round is relatively slow (again, they kept the powder charge low in order to reduce recoil), and so pilots have to learn a different drop and lead for the cannon. American pilots did not like it, because they wanted to fire machine gun and cannon at the same time, and were disappointed when they went in two different directions. So, yes, with the P-39 you had to make up your mind whether you were going to do a machine gun pass or a squint and aim cannon pass. The advantage of the cannon is that in most cases, just landing one round would be enough to blow a plane out of the air.
Scott Weiss I appreciate the accuracy of this post, but uh, this was just a joke.
Hi Stitch2k1, Yeah, oftentimes I know that people are speaking figuratively and not in a precisely literal way, but, well, I love to hear myself talk, and if I see an occasion for knocking out a paragraph or two concerning something that I had thought about before, I take it. Gamers game. Writers write.
It's a reference to the stupid flex seal commercial lol. Also the M4 37mm muzzle velocity wasn't too bad, it was still 610 m/s, not far off from the German 20mm MG151/20 muzzle velocity of ~690 m/s
Ooooh, that was satisfying to watch, specially on ultrawide, I had to see it again. Wonderful watching a marksman shooting that elephant gun. Thought the music fit like a glove... oh yeah. Thanks.
For early 40's plane, the design is pretty streamlined and "modern"
wenaldy looks like a Cirrus
Most pilots that flew the P-39 back in the day liked it. I certainly like it from a simulator point of view, with a unique, well laid out cockpit, lively handling, and equal performance with enemy fighters down low to medium altitudes. The cannon helps as well.
Hi Kolbpilot, Well, there was one squirrelly thing about the P-39, and I don't know whether the Sim Software factors it in, but the plane was built with a center of gravity that factored in a full load of ammunition, and those cannon rounds are heavy. If a pilot would empty his guns, both machine guns and cannon, well, the front of the plane would get very light. Remember, the P-39 was a mid engine configuration to begin with (engine behind the pilot) and so the center of gravity would slip back behind the center of lift, and so in any sharp maneuver, there was a likelihood that the plane would go sideways and start flat spinning. So basically, in a combat situation and you fired yourself dry, well, you were kind of stuck with running away in a straight line. Maybe slipping forward in your seat would help...
@@scottweiss9618 : Maybe the best idea would be to use the 37mm cannon only when intercepting enemy bombers or ground strafing. So in a dogfight against enemy fighters, you'd always have a full load of cannon ammunition to help balance the aircraft.
@@timonsolus Good Morning Tim, this is what you said: "Maybe the best idea would be to use the 37mm cannon only when intercepting enemy bombers or ground strafing. So in a dogfight against enemy fighters, you'd always have a full load of cannon ammunition to help balance the aircraft." Look at Military Doctrines, and I was in the military myself once. The Priority is not Personal Survival but to accomplish the mission. Now, what that means is that the only times a fighter pilot is to engage with other Fighter Planes is either during Pursuit Missions when escorting Bombers or Transports, and lone wolves often do seek and destroy, because it is easy for single planes to sneak up on other planes, since until they are right up in gun range, they're just tiny dots in the sky. When Fighters are assigned to intercept Bombers, no, they are not supposed to allow themselves to be drawn off into dogfights with their escorts. The enemy has already won when you are expending ammo on fighters and not Bombers. I heard the Herman Goring, Commander of the German Luffwaffa, instead of assigning KILLS to German Fighter Pilots downing Allied Fighter Planes, proposed it would be better to discipline such pilots for cowardice in not facing up to the Bombers which was their mission. But if the mission is to destroy fighters, then, well, the 37mm Cannon is a great weapon. There is a UA-cam Channel, Arianne Scharfi, a German Girl, who a few years back was flying a P-39 and doing a wonderful job with it. That Girl knows how to use her quadrant sight, and often she would not use her machine gun fire but simply wait until the sights were just right and push that cannon button once. The P-39's other armament is just a few 30 caliber machine guns. But, yeah, it still is a big problem, if you expend your entire cannon magazine and THEN decide to get into a Dog Fight where you are pulling high G turns. So you might have to bail out when the plane goes into a flat spin. But I really doubt whether the Games are really programming in the true aerodynamic characteristics of these planes. It seems like that would be a lot of programming for the sake of Perfection, but these Predatory Private For Profit Companies only have to fool kids most the time. My guess is that many of these programmed planes fly almost exactly the same. But you might know more about that than I do.
@@scottweiss9618 : A couple of points:
1. You can’t accomplish your mission if you’re dead. So personal survival is important.
2. While a fighter may have the mission of intercepting bombers, that doesn’t mean it can just ignore an enemy fighter that gets into a firing position on it. Evasive action is necessary at that point. And if you can’t easily shake the enemy off with one manoeuvre, and your wingman can’t resolve the situation, then your personal survival becomes the top priority, as ignoring the enemy will get you shot down.
3. Scoring hits with the P-39 37 mm cannon with deflection shooting on a turning target was extremely difficult because of the M4 cannon’s low muzzle velocity and the slow rate of fire (only 5 rounds in a 2 second burst). So against fighter targets, only a surprise attack on a target flying straight would be likely to hit.
@@timonsolus Good Afternoon Tim, this is what you said this time: "A couple of points:
1. You can’t accomplish your mission if you’re dead. So personal survival is important.
2. While a fighter may have the mission of intercepting bombers, that doesn’t mean it can just ignore an enemy fighter that gets into a firing position on it. Evasive action is necessary at that point. And if you can’t easily shake the enemy off with one manoeuvre, and your wingman can’t resolve the situation, then your personal survival becomes the top priority, as ignoring the enemy will get you shot down.
3. Scoring hits with the P-39 37 mm cannon with deflection shooting on a turning target was extremely difficult because of the M4 cannon’s low muzzle velocity and the slow rate of fire (only 5 rounds in a 2 second burst). So against fighter targets, only a surprise attack on a target flying straight would be likely to hit."
Excuse me, but allow me to ask, what branch of the military were you in? Concerns for Personal Safety are actually traits of Cowardice. Yeah, I understand Cowardice. Who isn't a Coward, right? But the Mission is always First! Also, although the rate of fire from those cannons is an astonishing 150 rounds per minute (5 every two seconds) well, can you guess what a BURST would be doing to your Flight Characteristics. Pilots would just be squeezing off a shot at a time. I was wondering how you were thinking that it would be so common to run out of Cannon Ammo... you were thinking of it like another BIG Machine Gun. It's not!
I heard American Pilots HATED the 39, and probably for the reasons that you mentioned, that American Pilots were too stupid to calculate lead for a slower Projectile ... yeah, I was talking about being able to use a Quadrant Sight... Tim, you only have to count the Circles to establish your Lead. Stupid Americans needed high velocity rounds like the 50 Caliber so they could "shoot straight"... otherwise they'd miss. Russians had not problem... the Soviets taught Geometry in School.
But, yeah, for a Gamer I guess your thinking isn't bad. I was just thinking Real World.
You shot the whole tail clean.
Freaking realistic.. I love the way your dad keeps track of the target and your airframe roles around the view
Awesome effects on the exhaust.. perfect .
Aircobra looks beautiful !
Great video mate! Nice shooting with the 37mm.
Great flying and shooting with this plane. I have never played the last IL2 version btw but in the versions before the P39 was really difficult to fly with.
Great video, sharp shooting, cloud surfing water fx to die for.. I'm still flying Flying Steppes BOS campaign, cannot wait to get into BOK. Happy hunting o7
3:12 beautiful shot !
Great video AND music choice.
That was incredible
Quality stuff man!
Absolutely Impressing
two machine guns on the wings in gondols and two in the hood of the engine ,this how P-39 was
Very nice engine sounds
You've made the Airacobra great again! Nice mashup!
Thanks! :)
MAGA
great sniping at 3:08
There's no doubt the P39 has the firepower it was nice to see it as a interceptor, thanks for the idea but i'm happy the 39 had a frontal attack on a 109 because there's no Way!!!! Thanks for keeping it real, besides a 39 was mainly a ground support platform. Good vid.
"besides a 39 was mainly a ground support platform." Well considering the Soviets were the ones who used it the most and they primarily used it as an air superiority fighter/interceptor I'm not sure that's true. The Soviets had the armored IL-2 Sturmovik for ground attack.
@@cambium0 dunno how it was with cobras but acording to pokryshkin memories they used fighter to ground attack. Migs, I-15, I-16, with yaks and laggs im not sure
awesome
Hi from Kuban)
I would have laughed if you got smacked by that tail part HAH shows you for using a M4 Canon on me!
Also does the introduction of the p39 mean that the usn and usaf and usmc going to be introduced in the kuban campagn?
After watching this, I think the P39 is gotta be my ww2 favourite. Surely this was the true A10 of ww2. Absolutely Brutal
The Thunderbolt comes to mind, though it never had such a devastating gun as this 37mm.
p39 is a very beautiful plane
I see "the grass is too tall and so are the trees" still applies. I don't think they ever corrected that.
That cannon is certain death!
Yeah, that cannon would be certain death, if you could land a round. A lot of pilots never got used to the slow curved trajectory of the 37mm cannon rounds which required the pilot to factor in a lot more drop and lead then with the higher velocity machine guns.
how do you create such cinematic shots?
How I get the enemy view?
7/10 Not enough Cannons
The me 109 is missing the tail struts
Yep, not a good idea to go in close to the He-111 H16 as that HMG up top is a fighter killer in one or two hits.
The P-39 may have been notorious as one of the worst dogfighters of WW2 but here it is excelling at the role it was specifically designed for, killing bombers.
A typical Wings of Liberty server Axis bomber sortie..... no fighter protection!!
I never heard of it being bad in a dogfight, I do know it had bad high altitude performance though, and that did not favor it over Western Europe
It was not a bad dogfighter.
Oh, yeah, everybody, it seems that the P-39 with its mid-engine design already had a problem where its center of gravity was only inches away from going behind its center of lift, but that it was okay as long as it was carrying fuel and full load of ammo, but after being in the air for a while, and if the pilot actually shot a lot at anything, then the center of gravity would sneak back behind the center of lift so that in a high speed stall (trying too hard to out turn another fighter) which in any other plane would just be an 'oops' moment, well, in the P-39 it would throw the plane into a wild flat spin that few people survived to talk about. Mostly it was just witnessed. They wanted test pilots to study the phenomena, but they all said 'phuque that!'.
Scott Weiss This is why you don't make mid-engine planes. The CG is totally fucked.
It was loved by the Soviets as a lot of low altitude fighting was common.
3:10 😱😂😂😂
Witch screen resolution is it ? 2560x1080 ?
It's 1920 x 1080. :)
В небе Покрышкин ).
Why didn't the pilot bail ?
37mm, those shells are over 1 inch in diameter, no wonder all it takes is one to knock the tail off a bomber....
achtung! achtung! pokryshkin in der luft!!! keban 43. кубань 43, Покрышкин & Речкалов
круто, фотореализм. если б ещё шлем дополненной реальности и центрифугу
Russia received a bunch of these in lend lease. The pilots loved them because they were good for close ground support against the Nazis. It had a low air ceiling which made them poor fighters against other planes, so the Soviets played to the strengths of the aircraft..
this game would be perfect if their sound design had some thought to it.
whats missing?
Best system is make the work , well, fast..and go home
Still new to the game, I had my first "beautiful kill" in a P-39 just two days ago (meaning - a kill that looks like the pilot knows what he is doing). It's rather difficult not to get lit up by the He111 gunners. I loved flying P-39 in the original Il2-Sturmovik game, but man it's years ago and I am quite rusty. In the original game, the cannon would make a BOOM and the recoil would actually slow your plane, quite a difference to the BoX version, it goes more "ZAP" than "BOOM" and it doesn't seem to shake the cockpit nearly as much - but man ... is this game wonderful or what?
Thanks for the awesome vid!
ua-cam.com/video/3qvCuKD9vWs/v-deo.html
Aircobra had no turbo so they where good below 15k feet above that..nope
which is exactly why Russians loved it so much ... it was set up the same as theyr own planes + that 37mm cannon did short work of any bombers and i can imagine how Stuka looked after getting hit by one of those shells ...
I thought 40mm was suppose to jam after 1 shot ? :D
That's why it's a 37mm
It’s not even a 40mm...
Rediculous. Your own canon is so accurate and effective it seems to shoot guided missiles but when you get hit yourself you just fly home. It might look realsitic but it surely isn't.
3:10 Das Plane ist gefuckt
To bad the AI can only fly in a straight line
Why those Baboon sounds?
Like I always 37mm ONe shoot connects .GAME OVER. what ever it hits you aint got no more ie Tail
Thumbs down for that song at the end, but the rest was pretty nice.
maybe its not song just sound of burning plane
yes airdrop effect is wonderfull but war thunder would allow you to look a bit above the dashboard so ....... Also 4 free. Bye, good byeeeeee
video was superb by the way !! 👍
weird music not needed
Understood! :)
That was music?
you're not needed
I don't typically like that kind of music, but I thought it was a fine addition at the end.
What a waste of beautiful young lives,all because of 4 monsters, Mussolini , hitler , hirayoto and stalin
Pfffft CGI, go away....!
Musique débile
NICE VIDEO! BUT THE HIP HOP RAP SHIT, RUINED THE ATMOSPHERE...
What's with the stupid music?