Great video Kyle! Your most important "bonus" tip imo I ALWAYS pull the OEM plastics first thing and put an aftermarket set on, then when I sell the bike I put the OEM brand new plastics back on. Helps sell bikes infinitely easier. Stock bikes sell easier and faster than bikes loaded with custom graphics and parts etc.. Can't wait to see some riding of that 300 TPI. Praying for better than expected recovery of your knee injury. Something I noticed with older 2 strokes at this point they are not depreciating much if any. Some mint condition 250s from the early 2000s are actually appreciating in value from where they were 5 years ago. Once a bike gets to a certain age it tends to stay somewhat stagnant in price, or the depreciation slows drastically. New bikes are the ones that get crushed quickly in value. One more thing.. I don't like to think of it as losing money on my bike when it depreciates. A car, yes. But a dirt bike, I see it as I am paying for fun. It is strictly an object used for fun, unlike a vehicle which is designed to transport you. Of course you don't get all of the money back you spent on the bike, but, you get to keep all of the memories. People spend money on gym memberships every month, could buy a dirt bike and offset some of that money as a workout expense and have fun while doing it. So many positive ways to think of it instead of just being worried about losing money.
You are on to something about older 2 strokes. I bought a 99 KTM 300, rode for 3 years, and sold it for $200 more than I paid for it. I am more willing to buy a older 2 stroke because of the easy and cheap rebuilds on them.
i do the same replace plastics day one , my old 016 -500exc looked brand new when i took it in for trade in last week, i also polish header pipe , removed all aftermarket parts and sold them made even more money back , as you say your paying for fun ,better you look after it the more you get back when its time to upgrade to new chassis ,
The last 2 bikes I've sold I've done everything you mentioned and actually made a couple hundred bucks on one bike & $1300 on the last one. Way I look at it if you get a good deal, take care of everything with attention to detail & have a paper trail/pics to back it all up you're getting paid to ride the bikes you want! It doesn't get any better than that! Keep it up! Looking forward to my Blue Dirt Bike Channel T-shirt! Maybe even that 300TPI lol
Another tip that can make things less of a loss is to put all the aftermarket parts you plan on installing on when you buy a new bike and save all the new stock parts. When you get ready to sell just put all the stock parts back on. That works really well if your staying with the same brand of bike. Unless there was some major redesign you can reuse your cache of aftermarket parts on the next bike. What doesn’t fit on the new bike can be sold on eBay to recoup some money.
It does not work today, but back in the 1980s my dad would bring a handgun with him when buying or selling a bike. He would pickup the guns for under $100 and then during the negotiation he would say, "If I threw in this gun would you knock $500 off the price?" Worked great.
Great video. going along with what you said. When i sell a bike i generally try and make sure it at least has a decent set of tires and that the sprockets are not warn and need replaced right away.
My issue with lots of aftermarket parts are 2 fold. 1) it means a person whom may not be mechanically savvy has worked on the bike. 2) it can be a pain tracking down the parts or more expensive replacing them. I despise aftermarket parts with no company or part number on them.
We get a set of plastic and seat cover with every new bike we buy. Save the stock plastics and seat cover to resell the bike. It is also a good idea to sale around Christmas time.
You're absolutely right. It kills me when I look at bikes for sale and somebody says it's got a new boyesen rad valve, new Wiseco piston, rental bars, new chain and sprocket. Whoopty Doo. All it means is things are worn out and they replaced it. Which happens. Good job on this video hopefully it will teach others to sell bikes correctly.
I wanted a KTM, but strayed to another brand after browsing for a couple months. The resale value is ridiculous. 5+ year old bikes that probably need complete overhauls listed for over 5k!
If the first words out of their mouth is, "What's the least?" their done, and that's probably 60% of the callers, and another 25% are low-ballers. I tried to sell a bike about 2 years ago, and within a couple days I said, I'm done, I'll keep it. And the next person came and looked at the bike and gave me my asking price, because it was cherry. All those other idiots missed out on a great bike for a reasonable price because people today have lost all sense of negotiation, and I refuse to deal with them.
Eagle One etching aluminum wheel cleaner will make aluminum frames look brand new again. Whether is gunk, rub marks from boots, anything. The frame will be spotless
Yes. Or sell them to the buyer of your bike at an extra cost if he wishes some of that stuff. Selling extras installed never works out to your advantage.
When I see brand new stock plastics and parts on a used bike for sale I know that bike has been Raced ! and therefore it has high hours at high RPM's and has beat to shitt at the track , STAY AWAY is what you should be thinking!!!
Tax season is your best friend if your selling but usually the worst time to buy used anyways ,good time to buy is around Xmas when people are not riding and can use the cash .
fredman1085 could not agree with you more!! My bike is and still looks like the day I bought it and will sell it with exactly how I bought it... also if for example if an oem sticker worn off or ripped off then yes I would only replace that sticker with oem stickers...
I would say, yes a clean dirt bike is way more apealing to the eye. But i found that people selling dirt bikes on sites that are 100% clean are scammers. They say stuff like ''New air filter on, oil and sparkplug, starts right up and goes fine'' THOSE people im worried about. Last time i bought a clean bike i got home and the next day the valves broke on me. I got scammed. Another dirt bike i bought was not cleaned, and it was owned by a grown man. About 50 years old. It was a yamaha yz426f from 2002. It looked used and he said it starts and goes. tahts it. I bought it and i have never had any problem with it whats so ever.
How do you feel about having strangers coming to your house and seeing all your other bikes in the garage?? It’s kind of the only way to do it because any time I’m buying a bike and they want to meet somewhere to show it to me I always think there is something shady going on.
I like to see a clean bike but if they are too clean it throws up a red flag for me, especially if they have been slathered in armor all. The biggest/best tip I can give for selling a bike or any motorized vehicle really, is to actually maintain it regularly and take good care of it from day one. This will give you the best pay off when you are ready to sell.
I have a 2001 Yamaha TTR 90 that has been stuck in a garage and never been ridden for about 10 years! Something I was left with after a bad divorce. What is the best way to get rid of it? It will likely need a lot of work :(
The aftermarket thing is something most people really do not understand. I am 20 and have sold a lot of bikes including mine/dads/brothers bikes. I usually list a short to the point description then “most” of the big aftermarket stuff that you can obviously see in the pictures. In my area people want something for nothing which sucks because you get offered stupid prices and trades (even though you put no bs offers or trades). Just a question, what do you think a 10’ yz250 fully rebuilt with 20 hours on it worth? Ive dumped loads into it but expect to lose some on it... looking to switch to ktm 250xc next year...
What about letting people test ride bike on street. Any idea how to get around that. Nearest place to ride will be 1:30 min drive. Not that I am trying to hide something, my bike runs like a clock. And had problems before, when people go around block.
I have sold a lot of bikes and bought some. Couple facts regarding selling. Many sellers are lazy and want something for nothing. The second you take a new bike off the showroom floor it immediately has lost value, even without riding it once. Sellers who take poor photos, in poor areas with poor angles immediately get a red flag. 9 times out of 10 I can already predict how a bike has been maintained when I see how their photos are. Proper English and complete sentences show me they at least have grade level education. If you are writing in slang and cannot form a sentence I will immediately not take you seriously. When viewing a bike I can immediately tell what kind of owner the bike had. So many bikes I have looked at are dirty, falling apart, broken plastics, broken levers, broken lights, broken plates, broken everything. If you cannot be bothered to even attempt to wash your bike for a sale I will probably either pass or knock of a grand or more on an offer. It shows how someone has treated their bike. If they didn't even clean and maintain it for a sale I doubt they ever did it for themselves. Air filter; this puppy is a tell tale giveaway. If it's shot to hell I am pretty sure the more important stuff has not been done. I believe some aftermarket stuff retains the value in a bike but does not increase its value much. Such as a pipe; there are some expensive pipes and if there is documentation I will pay for a good upgrade if everything else checks out. More complicated upgrades I am wary about. Anything inside the engine or forks I question who performed the service. If it was them, you have to figure out if they know what they are doing and you have to know there is a significantly bigger chance of failure on the bike. Trust photos and documentation. Do not trust someone's word.
Dead on about the aftermarket mods. I cannot stand when people think their $X amount of mods automatically increases the bikes value by the same amount. Lots of people are not realistic about the price of their dirt bike. Its a dirt bike we all know how they get ridden and abused. Good tip - When you buy it new take off the new stock plastics and buy a kit and ride with that.
people are so bad with pictures and only have a few go out mid day after a wash and take 20 pics and list everything about the bike. i sold my XR in less than 2 hours after posting lol.
I'm selling my 1988 xr80r for 2500 dollars because I've out grown it and I'm trying to save up for a crf 100 because its bigger more powerful and its time for me to upgrade (if anyone wants to buy it)
I do all of these things, however if you have a bike that is worth say over 3k I find it extremely difficult to sell. All day is people offering their 1992 Toyota Corollas with 215000 miles or ridiculous low balls from ghetto dwellers spending their last welfare pittance on a motorcycle.
Good tips except for one I completely disagree with. I have a policy to not sell vehicles to anyone I know. There is no faster way to sour a friendship than a friend getting into an accident in a car or motorcycle they bought from you and the resultant, lingering doubt if the accident was due to something you failed to disclose. Nope, nope, nope. I've seen many people burned by this.
Yes, but no one will pay for the new tires when they are installed on the bike. Just clean the old tires and make them black with a wax. Works wonders.
Whatever wax ur using on ur head, i want for cleaning my bike
That's Maxima SC1 100% 👨🦲
Great video Kyle! Your most important "bonus" tip imo I ALWAYS pull the OEM plastics first thing and put an aftermarket set on, then when I sell the bike I put the OEM brand new plastics back on. Helps sell bikes infinitely easier. Stock bikes sell easier and faster than bikes loaded with custom graphics and parts etc.. Can't wait to see some riding of that 300 TPI. Praying for better than expected recovery of your knee injury.
Something I noticed with older 2 strokes at this point they are not depreciating much if any. Some mint condition 250s from the early 2000s are actually appreciating in value from where they were 5 years ago. Once a bike gets to a certain age it tends to stay somewhat stagnant in price, or the depreciation slows drastically. New bikes are the ones that get crushed quickly in value.
One more thing.. I don't like to think of it as losing money on my bike when it depreciates. A car, yes. But a dirt bike, I see it as I am paying for fun. It is strictly an object used for fun, unlike a vehicle which is designed to transport you. Of course you don't get all of the money back you spent on the bike, but, you get to keep all of the memories. People spend money on gym memberships every month, could buy a dirt bike and offset some of that money as a workout expense and have fun while doing it. So many positive ways to think of it instead of just being worried about losing money.
You are on to something about older 2 strokes. I bought a 99 KTM 300, rode for 3 years, and sold it for $200 more than I paid for it. I am more willing to buy a older 2 stroke because of the easy and cheap rebuilds on them.
Yep thats the way to do it!
i do the same replace plastics day one , my old 016 -500exc looked brand new when i took it in for trade in last week, i also polish header pipe , removed all aftermarket parts and sold them made even more money back , as you say your paying for fun ,better you look after it the more you get back when its time to upgrade to new chassis ,
SkinnySkinch my bike is a 09 yz250 I’ve noticed that other similar yz250 s are going up in price. The value of 2 strokes are going up
The last 2 bikes I've sold I've done everything you mentioned and actually made a couple hundred bucks on one bike & $1300 on the last one. Way I look at it if you get a good deal, take care of everything with attention to detail & have a paper trail/pics to back it all up you're getting paid to ride the bikes you want! It doesn't get any better than that! Keep it up! Looking forward to my Blue Dirt Bike Channel T-shirt! Maybe even that 300TPI lol
Another tip that can make things less of a loss is to put all the aftermarket parts you plan on installing on when you buy a new bike and save all the new stock parts. When you get ready to sell just put all the stock parts back on. That works really well if your staying with the same brand of bike. Unless there was some major redesign you can reuse your cache of aftermarket parts on the next bike. What doesn’t fit on the new bike can be sold on eBay to recoup some money.
It does not work today, but back in the 1980s my dad would bring a handgun with him when buying or selling a bike. He would pickup the guns for under $100 and then during the negotiation he would say, "If I threw in this gun would you knock $500 off the price?" Worked great.
Mark Gunnison I do the same
lol that is so American
I didn't even notice the sun being reflected until you posted the disclaimer
#5 is something I am constantly telling people. Nobody cares about your aftermarket parts.
Great video. going along with what you said. When i sell a bike i generally try and make sure it at least has a decent set of tires and that the sprockets are not warn and need replaced right away.
Tip #2 is often so overlooked, it’s amazing what a shop broom and taking the pics on a sunny day at noon can do to help your price
My issue with lots of aftermarket parts are 2 fold. 1) it means a person whom may not be mechanically savvy has worked on the bike. 2) it can be a pain tracking down the parts or more expensive replacing them. I despise aftermarket parts with no company or part number on them.
We get a set of plastic and seat cover with every new bike we buy. Save the stock plastics and seat cover to resell the bike. It is also a good idea to sale around Christmas time.
You're absolutely right. It kills me when I look at bikes for sale and somebody says it's got a new boyesen rad valve, new Wiseco piston, rental bars, new chain and sprocket. Whoopty Doo. All it means is things are worn out and they replaced it. Which happens. Good job on this video hopefully it will teach others to sell bikes correctly.
Rented bars?! XD
Cool. Got a vid for the buyers, too?
Thanks for the tips Kyle. I’ve been trying to sell my Honda crf230f because I’m ready to move up to a Yz125
Solid advice. Can't wait to see some videos on that TPI 300.
I love the dirt bikes you have
I wanted a KTM, but strayed to another brand after browsing for a couple months. The resale value is ridiculous. 5+ year old bikes that probably need complete overhauls listed for over 5k!
Yeah and Ktm's to me aren't great bikes. I personally feel like Yamaha is way better. Their is so many reasons why I feel Ktm isn't the best brand. 👍
I can't tell you how many times I have to tell people over text that I won't accept offers unless it's in person. It's a pet peeve of mine for sure!
If the first words out of their mouth is, "What's the least?" their done, and that's probably 60% of the callers, and another 25% are low-ballers.
I tried to sell a bike about 2 years ago, and within a couple days I said, I'm done, I'll keep it. And the next person came and looked at the bike and gave me my asking price, because it was cherry.
All those other idiots missed out on a great bike for a reasonable price because people today have lost all sense of negotiation, and I refuse to deal with them.
Eagle One etching aluminum wheel cleaner will make aluminum frames look brand new again. Whether is gunk, rub marks from boots, anything. The frame will be spotless
Ppl who know me and my riding style will never buy a bike from me ;)
Lmao me either specially with UA-cam now a days they have proof
To many panic revs?
Thanks man! this is some really good info for me.
Perfect timing I put mine for sale yesterday
Do you think its worth putting the stock stuff back on and selling the aftermarket parts on ebay?
Yes. Or sell them to the buyer of your bike at an extra cost if he wishes some of that stuff. Selling extras installed never works out to your advantage.
When I see brand new stock plastics and parts on a used bike for sale I know that bike has been Raced ! and therefore it has high hours at high RPM's and has beat to shitt at the track , STAY AWAY is what you should be thinking!!!
You can mess the plastics up in one hour. And you don't have to race for that.
Look at that bike with stickers still on it! Yeeowzers! nice!
Tax season is your best friend if your selling but usually the worst time to buy used anyways ,good time to buy is around Xmas when people are not riding and can use the cash .
Tip 11: dont polish anything, dont put 18 pounds of Geico stickers on it, Stock look is your best friend
cadwarrior but the added stickers add horsepower.
fredman1085 could not agree with you more!! My bike is and still looks like the day I bought it and will sell it with exactly how I bought it... also if for example if an oem sticker worn off or ripped off then yes I would only replace that sticker with oem stickers...
I would say, yes a clean dirt bike is way more apealing to the eye. But i found that people selling dirt bikes on sites that are 100% clean are scammers. They say stuff like ''New air filter on, oil and sparkplug, starts right up and goes fine''
THOSE people im worried about. Last time i bought a clean bike i got home and the next day the valves broke on me. I got scammed.
Another dirt bike i bought was not cleaned, and it was owned by a grown man. About 50 years old. It was a yamaha yz426f from 2002. It looked used and he said it starts and goes. tahts it.
I bought it and i have never had any problem with it whats so ever.
I know most poeple would never do it but once bike gets down to 1500 to 2000 dollar range seemsike they stop depreciating
What about selling a 20 + year old bike that you have rebuilt from the frame up?
Armor original all on your seat makes it look new
How do you feel about having strangers coming to your house and seeing all your other bikes in the garage?? It’s kind of the only way to do it because any time I’m buying a bike and they want to meet somewhere to show it to me I always think there is something shady going on.
Utah is funny when it comes to overvaluing used motorcycles, I've never seen anything like it.
I cleaned my bike, changed the plastics, repaired all the brocken parts...it looks like new. Oh i don't wanna sell it anymore....
Nice video
Should I put a new 2 stroke pipe on my 200 exc as mine is pretty bashed up and I’m not going to blow it out
Totally spot on!
Can you make a vid on tips for new dirtbike riders??
In finland we can ride year around because frozen lakes
jep
I'm twelve and I'm sitting with a damn 90cc apollo dirt bike and I've grown out of it and I'm looking for a cheap chopper under 250
Hey Kyle great video! Just a question. Why don't you run the carbon fibre front pipe guard and what is your opinion on this. Thanks!
Hey Kyle can you do a review on a 2020 350 KTM 4 stroke, six days preferably. Please 😁
Great Video....!
I like to see a clean bike but if they are too clean it throws up a red flag for me, especially if they have been slathered in armor all.
The biggest/best tip I can give for selling a bike or any motorized vehicle really, is to actually maintain it regularly and take good care of it from day one. This will give you the best pay off when you are ready to sell.
I have a 2001 Yamaha TTR 90 that has been stuck in a garage and never been ridden for about 10 years! Something I was left with after a bad divorce. What is the best way to get rid of it? It will likely need a lot of work :(
The aftermarket thing is something most people really do not understand. I am 20 and have sold a lot of bikes including mine/dads/brothers bikes. I usually list a short to the point description then “most” of the big aftermarket stuff that you can obviously see in the pictures. In my area people want something for nothing which sucks because you get offered stupid prices and trades (even though you put no bs offers or trades).
Just a question, what do you think a 10’ yz250 fully rebuilt with 20 hours on it worth? Ive dumped loads into it but expect to lose some on it... looking to switch to ktm 250xc next year...
Good video!
pleaaase tell me where u buy 10 dollar levers
I sold a bike to a guy and he said the dmv needs my address, that a name only(on the bill of sale) isn't good enough. Is he telling the truth?
Solid advice . = )
Is a 2015 KTM 500 EXC still a good bike in 2021
What about letting people test ride bike on street. Any idea how to get around that. Nearest place to ride will be 1:30 min drive. Not that I am trying to hide something, my bike runs like a clock. And had problems before, when people go around block.
Ivan M take the money and if they don’t like it give it back
2019 TPI! 300? Curious to hear your thoughts on that one
I have sold a lot of bikes and bought some. Couple facts regarding selling. Many sellers are lazy and want something for nothing. The second you take a new bike off the showroom floor it immediately has lost value, even without riding it once. Sellers who take poor photos, in poor areas with poor angles immediately get a red flag. 9 times out of 10 I can already predict how a bike has been maintained when I see how their photos are. Proper English and complete sentences show me they at least have grade level education. If you are writing in slang and cannot form a sentence I will immediately not take you seriously. When viewing a bike I can immediately tell what kind of owner the bike had. So many bikes I have looked at are dirty, falling apart, broken plastics, broken levers, broken lights, broken plates, broken everything. If you cannot be bothered to even attempt to wash your bike for a sale I will probably either pass or knock of a grand or more on an offer. It shows how someone has treated their bike. If they didn't even clean and maintain it for a sale I doubt they ever did it for themselves. Air filter; this puppy is a tell tale giveaway. If it's shot to hell I am pretty sure the more important stuff has not been done. I believe some aftermarket stuff retains the value in a bike but does not increase its value much. Such as a pipe; there are some expensive pipes and if there is documentation I will pay for a good upgrade if everything else checks out. More complicated upgrades I am wary about. Anything inside the engine or forks I question who performed the service. If it was them, you have to figure out if they know what they are doing and you have to know there is a significantly bigger chance of failure on the bike. Trust photos and documentation. Do not trust someone's word.
Bro, you don't actually buy them used anymore, do you?
great vid
Dead on about the aftermarket mods. I cannot stand when people think their $X amount of mods automatically increases the bikes value by the same amount. Lots of people are not realistic about the price of their dirt bike. Its a dirt bike we all know how they get ridden and abused.
Good tip - When you buy it new take off the new stock plastics and buy a kit and ride with that.
thanks bro
people are so bad with pictures and only have a few go out mid day after a wash and take 20 pics and list everything about the bike. i sold my XR in less than 2 hours after posting lol.
Another good thing to do is let the buyer know whether or not the bike has been raced.
If it's a competition bike it has been raced for sure. Why would anyone buy a competition bike otherwise? Of course it has been raced.
Aleks Nestserau some people that just ride motocross do it for fun and take it easy
Anyone know what bike he is standing in front of
First from ph
People should always Blue book the value of the bike
nice vid
I wish you would have also included that the tax,license and dealer fees have nothing to do with the real value of the bike you are selling.
I'm selling my 1988 xr80r for 2500 dollars because I've out grown it and I'm trying to save up for a crf 100 because its bigger more powerful and its time for me to upgrade (if anyone wants to buy it)
whoa whoa whoa waaayyy to high you want 600😂
Not all places have "riding seasons" hahaha
I do all of these things, however if you have a bike that is worth say over 3k I find it extremely difficult to sell. All day is people offering their 1992 Toyota Corollas with 215000 miles or ridiculous low balls from ghetto dwellers spending their last welfare pittance on a motorcycle.
Making a bike super clean, buyer could think that ur trying to hide somethink... oil leak etc
Nick er stupid way to think about it
Good tips except for one I completely disagree with. I have a policy to not sell vehicles to anyone I know. There is no faster way to sour a friendship than a friend getting into an accident in a car or motorcycle they bought from you and the resultant, lingering doubt if the accident was due to something you failed to disclose. Nope, nope, nope. I've seen many people burned by this.
I did what u said a dude bought my dirt bike in 3 minutes
Hour meter!
A guy was so bad at taking pictures one was upside down
sell aftermarket parts seperate!!
New tires make any bike look better.
Yes, but no one will pay for the new tires when they are installed on the bike. Just clean the old tires and make them black with a wax. Works wonders.
my bike is 12 years old💀
Unless it’s 300 2 stroke it can be 20 years old and still be worth 6k all day long 😂
2009 crf 450x, street legal! In Reno Nv. Lots of extra parts, bike runs great and looks good! Hit me up if interested. 4400 bucks
This is how I have been selling bikes. People who don't do these things are just plain lazy.
Make sure to have the title and a notary
6:39, Realistic. small typo...happens to the best of us.
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