thanks i was fighting and i thought i was doing a ground pound by just hitting him in the face as i wondered after the fight why i was so tired my friend told me why i was doing it wrong and showed me this vid so thanks for the effective ass kicking energy conservation
Great video! Not too long, gets concept across. It's an idea for self defense. Even if everyone doesn't train BJJ or MMA they atleast watch it. And everyone always talk fighting of one kind or another.
@brytonlaw Remember WC puts a huge emphasis on structure for its strength, when your on your back or knees or any position other than the specific WC stance, your not likely to get that power from the trad. WC CP. I had the same idea, tried it on a partner, it failed as anything other than an annoyance. Maybe it could be modified to work better, but really you want to maximise your biomechanical advantage in such a position, i.e. summation of forces, I'm talking torque, swing for the fences :)
You have to also keep in mind that MMA is a sport, not combatives. In a real-world scenario, what you mentioned is perfectly fine because you are fighting, potentially, for your life. In MMA, they're trying to eliminate potentially lethal or "unsporting" injuries. It's just a matter of context.
No. I was referring to the George Zimmerman case in which ''John'' claimed that Trayvon was using MMA on Zim. Why couldn't Zim cheat and poke Trayvons eyes out?
Sry, dont really get your point. You might have forgotten that the grappler would a) be aware of the threat and thus eliminating e.g. most of the eye-poking threats, b) in case of the biting- which cant be fully prevented- would work through the pain and just finish the submission. [speaking of really "open" rules: the winner could then be allowed to break each and every bone of the submitted guy and piss in his face for biting/trying to eyepoke] c) use all the mentioned techniques by HIMSELF.
Unrealistic, the guy under could easily grab the neck of his opponent with his free hand, so he can block the next strike with his shin, grabbing his arm and going for a triangle choke...
prob gonna get flamed for this..... but for some reason i can't stop thinking about the wing chun chain punch in this situation >< but he would probably block them all and kick me off if he was half smart.......
For the same reason the top guy can't poke the bottom guys eyes out. Would you rather be the top guy who is poking an eye out or the bottom guy poking an eye out? Why do all you dungeon masters....er I mean self-defense guys think only you can eye poke?
And let's remember the words of our Lord and Saviour. Sport is sport. NEVER use techniques like this outside a Ring except in some (God forbid, Lord have Mercy) potential cases to protect the weak and defenseless. ALWAYS walk away if there are no innocents present. And / Or preferably call First Response if someone needs a bracelet party, assuming you're in, idk, a place of Good Will. Even if you don't care about others, these techniques in (God forbid) the street can get you an easy 10-20 years if shit goes sideways. Peace.
The MMA rules are pretty pro-grappler. All the effective techniques for escaping/causing critical damage against that form of assault are illegal; like elbows to top of skull, attacks to soft spots (eyes, ears, nose, mouth, groin, small joints), and biting/pinching.
Real-world fights and sports are WAY different. I'm not taking anything away from those in MMA, they're tough as hell. But regardless, it IS a sport. Therefore, there are rules. Why are there rules? Because certain things used to escape certain situations are potentially lethal or could cause permanent injury. Yes what they do is also potentially lethal and can cause permanent injury, but it's not like a knife or digging your thumbs as deep into your opponent's eyes as possible. It's context.
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no empty words, only content, awesome job!
good advice man, keep posting things like this, it´s gold for many purpose,,,
I practice this everyday. Also works great as a cardio workout
good points! these principles would work within and outside the sport. keep it real!
thanks i was fighting and i thought i was doing a ground pound by just hitting him in the face as i wondered after the fight why i was so tired my friend told me why i was doing it wrong and showed me this vid so thanks for the effective ass kicking energy conservation
Good vid! I beleive i've seen fights won with that body elbow, body elbow, big looping elbow to the head combo.
Great video! Not too long, gets concept across. It's an idea for self defense. Even if everyone doesn't train BJJ or MMA they atleast watch it. And everyone always talk fighting of one kind or another.
@brytonlaw Remember WC puts a huge emphasis on structure for its strength, when your on your back or knees or any position other than the specific WC stance, your not likely to get that power from the trad. WC CP. I had the same idea, tried it on a partner, it failed as anything other than an annoyance. Maybe it could be modified to work better, but really you want to maximise your biomechanical advantage in such a position, i.e. summation of forces, I'm talking torque, swing for the fences :)
Great tips. Thanks Denis & Stephan (& uki)!
nice instruction. not a ground and pound fan myself because there are just so many other things id rather do but this vid is helpful advice.
Your grandma didn't stand a chance didn't she?
Great instruction guys
thank u so much for posting it one love
good video, thx a lot for posting
Good work!
Great vid brah you know your stuff
love the vid man
nice stuff for sure.
he loks exactly like gsp
Haha love the awkward leg at the end.
Thank you
Am here, sent by Zimmerman case
I couldn't have said that better.
You have to also keep in mind that MMA is a sport, not combatives. In a real-world scenario, what you mentioned is perfectly fine because you are fighting, potentially, for your life. In MMA, they're trying to eliminate potentially lethal or "unsporting" injuries. It's just a matter of context.
Because the guy on top has a far better chance of poking the bottom guy's out, while having an easier defense as he can more his head far more.
No. I was referring to the George Zimmerman case in which ''John'' claimed that Trayvon was using MMA on Zim. Why couldn't Zim cheat and poke Trayvons eyes out?
Make more bro
Sry, dont really get your point. You might have forgotten that the grappler would a) be aware of the threat and thus eliminating e.g. most of the eye-poking threats, b) in case of the biting- which cant be fully prevented- would work through the pain and just finish the submission. [speaking of really "open" rules: the winner could then be allowed to break each and every bone of the submitted guy and piss in his face for biting/trying to eyepoke] c) use all the mentioned techniques by HIMSELF.
dem rules man dem rules
Great !
Ouch.. you gotta love The Kang =)
I was just asking why the guy on the bottom would be so helpless as to not be able to defend himself in some way.
I like it
Gotta say I burst out laughing when I saw this...
@pimpmstr89 The downward strike is illegal in most mma.
Unrealistic, the guy under could easily grab the neck of his opponent with his free hand, so he can block the next strike with his shin, grabbing his arm and going for a triangle choke...
This works great in self denfense; espeially if your agresor doesn't know what a guard is .
LOL
Have you ever managed to do that? Because it is close to impossible to break someone's arms with punches
great
How come the guy on the bottom can't poke the guy on the tops eyes out.
I do a lot of ground and pound in my fights
prob gonna get flamed for this..... but for some reason i can't stop thinking about the wing chun chain punch in this situation ><
but he would probably block them all and kick me off if he was half smart.......
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/ But, no awesome video, made me think and see a lil on Tap Dance. Lord have mercy right ? / Hey, it is what is is. PEACE.
It will get you DQ'd mate.
I am NOT gonna say what they look like to me...
What if this was two persons fighting and there were no rules?
jfsfrnd headbut
Then it's not MMA
how come the guy on the top can't do the same -.-
For the same reason the top guy can't poke the bottom guys eyes out. Would you rather be the top guy who is poking an eye out or the bottom guy poking an eye out? Why do all you dungeon masters....er I mean self-defense guys think only you can eye poke?
There no way ur getting them body elbows when they got u held down
Um maybe if the guy on top was a trained MMA fighter. The opposite is true if the guy on the bottom was trained in MMA and the guy on the top wasn't.
Who else was sent here by the Zimmerman case?
And let's remember the words of our Lord and Saviour. Sport is sport. NEVER use techniques like this outside a Ring except in some (God forbid, Lord have Mercy) potential cases to protect the weak and defenseless. ALWAYS walk away if there are no innocents present. And / Or preferably call First Response if someone needs a bracelet party, assuming you're in, idk, a place of Good Will. Even if you don't care about others, these techniques in (God forbid) the street can get you an easy 10-20 years if shit goes sideways.
Peace.
Expecting Ground Pound from Mario series? Too bad, this is just a fight move :(
Yeah. Self defense.
wow this guy is scary
Because the George Zimmerman supporters are claiming that Trayvon Martin knew this technique and was using it on George.
The MMA rules are pretty pro-grappler. All the effective techniques for escaping/causing critical damage against that form of assault are illegal; like elbows to top of skull, attacks to soft spots (eyes, ears, nose, mouth, groin, small joints), and biting/pinching.
*****
My spirit is winded by the gay?
Real-world fights and sports are WAY different. I'm not taking anything away from those in MMA, they're tough as hell. But regardless, it IS a sport. Therefore, there are rules. Why are there rules? Because certain things used to escape certain situations are potentially lethal or could cause permanent injury. Yes what they do is also potentially lethal and can cause permanent injury, but it's not like a knife or digging your thumbs as deep into your opponent's eyes as possible. It's context.
Zimmerman
Get off him or i am calling the cops.
will not work with a half decent mma fighter.
yup. pretty gay there dudes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but hey why hide behind fighting? make love not war ..ha ha