The term for that is, I believe, hyperparasite. There are wasps that do it, too! They lay their eggs in bug host 1, hoping that it gets also parasitized by a different wasp 2 so that their larva can feed on that parasite. It can't develop on bug host 1 alone. Nature is crazy. ^_^
I think wasps get a bad rap. Most wasp species (even the annoying caste ones) prey on common garden pests. Hell, farmers have been using a specific species of parasitic wasp as pest control for years. Then there are pollinator species like the fig wasp which spread pollen much like bees do.
@@BinaryHedgehog1 I don't think very many people are talking about those specific wasps. The wasps that most people complain about are the wasps that are constantly making nests on and around their homes, that are do aggressive and many that they can't go outside without getting stung. Or the wasps/hornets that are attacking and wiping out their honey bee colonies. That chew up their homes and fences to make their paper nests. When people talk negatively about wasps and hornets, it is usually the kind that are not as beneficial to us as they are pests. Although I love wasps and love to see them as they keep my farm animals from getting over run with flies for the most part. However, in my garden, they scare away nearly all my pollinators and don't do much pollination themselves as they are simply there to look for proteins to take back to their larvae. And don't get me started on their aggressive behavior even when you're no where near their nests. They are resource guarding and will sting you for daring to go water your veggies if they are occupying the garden beds. Anyway, I believe those who truly know of the benefits of many wasp species, are not in any way simply giving wasps a bad rap, and definitely are not talking about the really beneficial wasps. The people you hear talk about their hatred of wasps in general, are people who don't know much about them, or the balance of nature and just see a stinging bug in their mind when they think of ot see a wasp. I want to add an apology for any grammar/spelling errors. I am still working on my English.
@@katalinacastanares4602 The caste wasps, which are the aggressive nesting ones, are indeed pests, but they are a small part of a larger family. Not all wasps are caste wasps, but to most people when they think "wasp" they think of those. Also, caste wasps still feed on garden pests so if they're not bothering you, they're actually kind of helpful.
Cassytha Filiformis is such a cool name for a plant that attacks both plants and animals in such a way. Definitely going to insert that name into my fantasy novel xD
sometimes I make things up for my stories and they seem too far-fetched. Then I hear about these things actually existing in nature and I resolve never to doubt myself again.
What a smart vine, able to measure the size of the galls before committing to rooting in them, or trick the tree into producing bigger galls, whichever it's doing.
Those vines are something else the 1st time I saw it was in Barbados a mate of mine tore off a long piece of vine threw it into a bush a week later , no more bush only vines and no insects at all , I thought all plants need soil to make roots but this plant uses host plants to make roots , amazing
I guess that just about puts an end to the "All things bright and beautiful, All creatures great and small" Sunday School point of view. Life is a heartless struggle for survival, nasty, brutish and short.
@@Stratelier Yes, as long as you can step back and see how it all balances. From the POV of any one organism, be it a top predator or a single drone in a beehive, it's pretty nasty. The Victorians got that wrong too.
@@RMoribayashi nastiness is a human conception. We are the only species lucky enough to think about it and express it. Life isn't nasty. It is just empty. Pain and suffering are devoid of meaning outside the human context, the context of the "I" - which we don't know whether animals even have. The bee feels pain because it has pain receptor, but it has no way of knowing who is feeling pain.
@@pramitbanerjee Of course. I just use negative emotional wording as a contrast to the "All things bright and beautiful" Victorian attitude. Neither has any bearing on reality but the way a wasp's larvae feeds off a host to keep it alive as long as possible is still nightmare fuel.
I think they came to this conclusion because the dead parasitic wasps were allowed to reach adulthood. If the love vine had just been starving out the wasps, at least some of the galls should have contained dead larvae as well as adult wasps. Finding mostly adult wasps suggests that the love vine may have been letting them 'ripen' until they were more nutritious and tasty, before targeting them. But you are right, it definitely deserves greater scrutiny and additional research.
I'm about 90% sure I've seen this vine growing in New England, but it all seems to have died off as soon as the weather started turning colder, while the host plants were still green.
"This vine's thirst for flesh" ok that legit made me curious: does insects (like the wasp) counts as "having flesh"? If there's a video about this or something similar already someone let me know
I can't imagine a less dignified way to die than getting eaten by a plant. Edit: well actually, there's autoerotic asphyxiation. But I can't think of 2.
Could you guys maybe make a video about the Gates foundation's reinvent-the-toilet-challenge winners? they seem so interesting and important and I would love to understand how they work :)
so that what was growing in the ipil ipil tree..the Love vine. here in our island people dont know what its called or function...now i can use it for aprodixiac
So, a parasite that eats parasites?
That’s rad
Aaron Walls and its host tooo
And makes ya horny ;)
The term for that is, I believe, hyperparasite. There are wasps that do it, too! They lay their eggs in bug host 1, hoping that it gets also parasitized by a different wasp 2 so that their larva can feed on that parasite. It can't develop on bug host 1 alone. Nature is crazy. ^_^
Do trust anyone that even yourself
@@tanyahandley3466 it loves to creep too!
Nature even freaks me out.
Jesus Christ you sir are everywhere
@@abe9818
Duh he's god.. or the son of god? Idk i don't understand it
Tryna be relavent like.
@@abe9818 and every when. You forget he is omni present
ur not real
Plant 1: Hey, you've got a vine growing on you.
Plant 2: I know, but it's killing these parasitic wasps, so it's... vine with me.
Sienfield theme
Not one of your better ones Therion.
Considering that the only native bovine in America is bison, why hasn't anyone brought cape buffalo to America for food, and is it even legal?😕
Not this time Therion... Not this time...
I thought this wasp a good one...
It’s called the love vine because anything that kills wasps deserves our admiration.
I think wasps get a bad rap. Most wasp species (even the annoying caste ones) prey on common garden pests. Hell, farmers have been using a specific species of parasitic wasp as pest control for years. Then there are pollinator species like the fig wasp which spread pollen much like bees do.
Amen
@@BinaryHedgehog1 exactly they are population control and have amazing ways of reproduction
@@BinaryHedgehog1 I don't think very many people are talking about those specific wasps. The wasps that most people complain about are the wasps that are constantly making nests on and around their homes, that are do aggressive and many that they can't go outside without getting stung. Or the wasps/hornets that are attacking and wiping out their honey bee colonies. That chew up their homes and fences to make their paper nests. When people talk negatively about wasps and hornets, it is usually the kind that are not as beneficial to us as they are pests. Although I love wasps and love to see them as they keep my farm animals from getting over run with flies for the most part. However, in my garden, they scare away nearly all my pollinators and don't do much pollination themselves as they are simply there to look for proteins to take back to their larvae. And don't get me started on their aggressive behavior even when you're no where near their nests. They are resource guarding and will sting you for daring to go water your veggies if they are occupying the garden beds. Anyway, I believe those who truly know of the benefits of many wasp species, are not in any way simply giving wasps a bad rap, and definitely are not talking about the really beneficial wasps. The people you hear talk about their hatred of wasps in general, are people who don't know much about them, or the balance of nature and just see a stinging bug in their mind when they think of ot see a wasp.
I want to add an apology for any grammar/spelling errors. I am still working on my English.
@@katalinacastanares4602 The caste wasps, which are the aggressive nesting ones, are indeed pests, but they are a small part of a larger family. Not all wasps are caste wasps, but to most people when they think "wasp" they think of those. Also, caste wasps still feed on garden pests so if they're not bothering you, they're actually kind of helpful.
Ya thought your oversized tree balls bugged you until the love vine came down to ball town and really rooted the problem.
*STOOOOOOOOOP*
"Nom On The Wasps" is the name of my new Punk band.
Hmm no wonder why people affected with love potion are so "clingy"
This plant has a lot of gall.
Dont suck on galls or you'll regret in the future
A carnivorous plant that eats the parasites of other plants? We've got a Dexter vine here.
The vine is basically that one kid who would bully a normal kid but also bully a bully and nothing stops him
i love how casually hank mingles in scientific vocabulary with words like nom. keeps my gen z brain hydrated
Wasp: oh sweet, this parasitic lifestyle ro-
Vine: *THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!*
I've suddenly developed a phobia of vines. Thanks SciShow
Cassytha Filiformis is such a cool name for a plant that attacks both plants and animals in such a way. Definitely going to insert that name into my fantasy novel xD
I am dyslexic, I read parasite as plastic 🤦♀. I came excited thinking about plastic eating plants 😂
phys.org/news/2016-03-newly-bacteria-plastic-bottles.html What about this?
@@chrisforsyth8323 Thanks this is cool too🙂.
HANK HANK HANK. ONLY HANK PLEASE. GREAT VOICE
🎶 The love vine is a little ol' place where we can die together... love vine, baby... 🎶
Now this is interesting!! A plant that uses both its prey plant and the parasites of its prey!!
"Juicy starchy Cancer" - I seriously lost it after this !
Vine : You may have outsmarted me, but I outsmarted your outsmarting
I petition for it to be changed to "Succubus Vine"!
In southern California they call it "Witches hair". Probably due to the clammy thick orangey mats.
Succondis Vine?
sometimes I make things up for my stories and they seem too far-fetched.
Then I hear about these things actually existing in nature and I resolve never to doubt myself again.
Same!!!!!
This has to be the creepiest thing I've learned all year. Thanks for sharing.
What a smart vine, able to measure the size of the galls before committing to rooting in them, or trick the tree into producing bigger galls, whichever it's doing.
A parasite parasite. I love when we discover meta things
Scott Egan is my PI 🤩😍 it was super thrilling to see you citing him 🥳🥳
Right there is your next horror movie plot. "Parasitic Plant Mutates Because Of Pollution And Goes On Rampage".
Those vines are something else the 1st time I saw it was in Barbados a mate of mine tore off a long piece of vine threw it into a bush a week later , no more bush only vines and no insects at all , I thought all plants need soil to make roots but this plant uses host plants to make roots , amazing
I guess that just about puts an end to the "All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small" Sunday School point of view. Life is a heartless struggle for survival, nasty, brutish and short.
There's still a certain beauty to the system, but ... not the kid-friendly kind.
@@Stratelier Yes, as long as you can step back and see how it all balances. From the POV of any one organism, be it a top predator or a single drone in a beehive, it's pretty nasty. The Victorians got that wrong too.
@@RMoribayashi nastiness is a human conception. We are the only species lucky enough to think about it and express it. Life isn't nasty. It is just empty. Pain and suffering are devoid of meaning outside the human context, the context of the "I" - which we don't know whether animals even have. The bee feels pain because it has pain receptor, but it has no way of knowing who is feeling pain.
@@pramitbanerjee Of course. I just use negative emotional wording as a contrast to the "All things bright and beautiful" Victorian attitude. Neither has any bearing on reality but the way a wasp's larvae feeds off a host to keep it alive as long as possible is still nightmare fuel.
@@RMoribayashi We do a lot worst for way less.
Guess we have another carnivorous plant to list alongside fly traps, butterworts, pitcher plants, and sundews.
This just goes to show you that plant parasites are just as fascinatingly creepy as any other parasite.
Just when I thought I’d seen & heard it all! Thanks Hank and the SciShow team 😅
How do we know the vine killed/ate the bugs, as opposed to just starving them as it ate the nutrients from the galls?
I think they came to this conclusion because the dead parasitic wasps were allowed to reach adulthood. If the love vine had just been starving out the wasps, at least some of the galls should have contained dead larvae as well as adult wasps. Finding mostly adult wasps suggests that the love vine may have been letting them 'ripen' until they were more nutritious and tasty, before targeting them. But you are right, it definitely deserves greater scrutiny and additional research.
Cuz those bugs wouldn't be able to grow to adulthood
Oh, Science. You always manage to make me smile.
There's a vine that catches sheep and kills them by thirst and hunger then the decomposing body acts as nourishment to the plant.
Ah the vine succs them dry! No wonder it's called the Love Vine
I used to hate vines, but they grew on me.
I guess if you can't run away, eventually plants will find a way to eat you.
Single favorite thing ever learned watching youtube right here
Thank you sci show Bob
Caterpillar:o no
The love vine:I got u
Parasitic wasps: *_O no_*
I'm about 90% sure I've seen this vine growing in New England, but it all seems to have died off as soon as the weather started turning colder, while the host plants were still green.
Parasitism and depredation can be as complex as international espionage :o mind blown!
Man that tree really had balls
LOVE VINE used LEECH SEED!
GALL was seeded!
I think its a good time to say, "Damn nature, you scary"
Why is this vine so gross, weird, and disturbing at the same time? Well, I did not know anything about this Love Vine but now I do!
You can see these vines on the few remaining dunes in Juno, Florida.
FEED ME SEYMOUR!
That may be the best fast fact I have ever heard!
Those vines had the gall to eat them both!
The love vine.... Hangin out cupping the balls...
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
A parasite parasitic on parasites… a HYPERparasite
Hmm, but what if *I* eat the gall first?
wow that's actually pretty cool
COOL!!!!!! I LOVE SCI SCHOO
"This vine's thirst for flesh" ok that legit made me curious: does insects (like the wasp) counts as "having flesh"? If there's a video about this or something similar already someone let me know
Always nice to see another predatory plant.
The only way to botanics to become interesting
I can't imagine a less dignified way to die than getting eaten by a plant.
Edit: well actually, there's autoerotic asphyxiation. But I can't think of 2.
The Love Vine -- Thug Life of Plants
This could mean for a new speculative science fiction idea of sort.
It’s like... a succubus plant or something
What is love? Baby don't kill me..
Ok. Try replacing the "G" in Galls with "B" and replay. It will make much more sense
"Carnivory" - great new word! :)
You know, a competitor to your favourite supplement (called Phloe) is advertising before this video.
poor wasps :c
Hank is the best
Wow that was horrifying. Thanks.
In my city... We call this plant "Chain of Love"
Could you guys maybe make a video about the Gates foundation's reinvent-the-toilet-challenge winners? they seem so interesting and important and I would love to understand how they work :)
I read the title as "the vine that loves PLASTIC WRAPS" and only realized I was wrong when the video was over and I re-read the title 🤦🏻♂️
Bugs forcing you to grow tumors to house their young? That's pretty galling.
The _love_ vine: it has a lot of... _gall._ 😄
the enemy of my enemy, wait ..who is the enemy?
Well, it took us long enough to work out that a lot of traditional herbivores will munch down on cadavers or baby birds if given the chance XD
So simply:
Wasp: Uehehe... I'll suck all the life out of you til there's nothing left.
Plant: *hold my beer*
nature is amazing
IT MUST GO TO THE GRAVE
*Yay, Hank!!!*
I've seen what looks like this at Cervantes in wa, which is a mediterranean climate but fairly far from tropical.
I suppose it good enough when it hardly ever freezes or something
ah yes, the yandere plant
Counter intuitive name? Seems spot on to me
Convergent evolution with Cuscuta!!!!!
Thanks for making wonderful Video. Please make video on Plants or Vines which eat Mosquitoes (if such plant exists)
It’s like that movie The Ruins!
so that what was growing in the ipil ipil tree..the Love vine. here in our island people dont know what its called or function...now i can use it for aprodixiac
Okay, I'm never going outside.
So say your lost in the woods would these gulls be a safe/effective form or nutrition?
Ministry of love vine
The parasite of my host is my host.
Why did the insect stunt into the gall? He did it for the vine.
(Please bring back vine)
So a plant that eats plants, is a Carnivore. My whole life is a lie.
THE WASPS GO😖😞😟😩😬😠🤕😢😭THE VINE GOES🐝😀😂😋🤣😃😘😎🤗😋
The Love Vine...or V.D. The vine that dines.
Damn nature, you scary!!!
Not what I imagined getting turned on by choking to mean
A parasite that attacks another parasite of the same host, so it's like, symbiosis?
Epibiosis?
@@lexvegers242 TIL! If the vines aren't hurting the plants more than the wasps would, this sounds like the proper term indeed!