kudos to that kid for being well-spoken and well-educated on the subject. It gives me hope that there are young adults out there who are able to see past the bullshit spun by the governments. This kid has a bright future. Stay uncorrupted and you could help lead Australia towards a better future than the one the Labor muppets want us in.
@@BatteryCommander Did we have a referendum about this? The average voter has no idea what the government is planning and both sides are bad as each other when it comes to energy, There is no climate emergency. We have a useless referendum coming which costs a mini fortune that money could have went into building a power plant.
@@forever_censored That's the problem - the average voter isn't interested in politics and doesn't do their research! That's why we wind up with this green energy policy nonsense and other problems. However, whether we go nuclear or not is not a referendum point, its a governance point. Let's vote in smarter Pollies that will at least consider nuclear. Educate ya mates, colleagues and family.
I am a retired electrical engineer. The problem is energy maths! Here is why: all electricity production is measured in megawatt hours (MWh's) produced over 365 days and 24 hours multiplied by the specific energy capacity factor (CC). Hence, Australian produced fossil fuel producing electricity is currently 183,820,200 MWh's per year. Therefore, solar energy of 185,820,200 MWh's divided by 365, 24, and .24 CC = 88,384.79 megawatts (MW). Cost per MW: $2,080,861 including battery backup, frequency control excluding land costs. Therefore, solar cost is $183.978 billion for a lifespan of 20-25 years. Wind energy of 185,820,200 MWh's requires 58,923.19 MW at .36 CC average X $1,978,620 per MW = $116.587 billion for a lifespan of 20-25 years, including batteries and frequency control, excluding land costs. With 50 per cent wind energy and 50 per cent solar energy the cost is $150.252 billion for 20-25 years plus land costs. Nuclear energy of 185,820,200 MWh's divided by 365, 24 and .94 CC = 22,566.33 MW X $350,000 per MW on site costs = $7.899 billion. The latest cost of one 390 MW Terrestrial Energy Molten Salt Reactor is $1.140 billion each, 390 MW X .94 = 366.6 MW divided into 22,566.33 = 61.55 MSR's, 62 MSR X $1.140 billion = $70.68 billion plus $7.899 billion = $78.579 billion. MSR reactor core will last 7-12 Years maintenance free, changing the core with a new core will take about 2 hours, MSR nuclear plants can be installed at existing power station sites safely and should last at least 70 years. MSR’s are not cooled with water; therefore they cannot produce hydrogen gas the source of nuclear meltdown and explosions. The thorium fuel is mixed with salts kept inside a sealed safe below the reactor when shut down, should it come into contact with atmosphere it would change from a fluid state into rock salts for safe clean up. MSR reactor graphite core would be changed every 7-12 years taking about 2 hours. MSR's do not produce long term nuclear wastes; the waste burner type also will burn nuclear waste as fuel supplements. It all flies in the face of ALP anti-nuclear policy of Clive Bowen, Anthony Albanese and the latest CSIRO report on MSR costs and technology, no doubt commissioned by the Albanese government?
This is a young man, obviously nervous about the "limelight" (ie he doesn't want to be there), passionately and articulately making common-sense, logical, reason-based statements and arguments and being belittled for being young. We (most Australians) put up with all the Greta bs and didn't march in the streets to make our position represented. This admirable young man has said some of the most intelligent and logical statements I've heard from anyone on TV (life for that matter) in a long time. He should run as an Independent. He'd have my vote. His honesty and logic is refreshing, in this day and age.
On ya, mate! That's the way! Encourage respectful debate....Hang on, that sort of thing is NO LONGER acceptable in this Once Great shit-hole of a country...@@oldbloke204
@@Prognosis__ Your opinion then? Seems so many of you sing from the same songbook on so many things eh? Sort of like sheeple? How's the release of contaminated water from the Japanese disaster going? Strange how often that taking the "cheap" or "easy" option ends up being neither eh?
He didn't have the logic you might expect. He may not be aware that solar energy, wind energy, and hydropower are even cleaner options compared to nuclear energy
@@thelionheart3562 Hydro is cleaner , but the amount of toxic waste we will have to deal with from broken down turbines and solar panels in the future will be enormous. He rightly pointed out that these are going into landfill and will occupy vast volumes compared to the highly energy dense nuclear alternative. Then comes the environmental effects of turbines and panels , huge land use , the clearing of forests , the destruction of birds ,bats and pollinating insects , the largely unknown effects on marine life , the desecration of once pristine vistas..... There is nothing environmentally friendly or clean about wind and large solar installations, which only produce power for about one third of the time , usually when we don't actually need it , and never when we need it most.
@thelionheart3562 Yeah, because clearing hundreds or even thousands of acres of land to make a power farm that produces unreliable energy is so good for the environment. Not to mention disposing of the used turbine blades and solar panels that can't be recycled🙄
We achieve net zero 20 times a year with trees… and then there’s the latest declaration from 1600 climate scientists who also say this is all bullshittery
And that leftist boomer grandma’s attempt at ‘humour’ (‘The sun is all the nuclear we need!’), and emotional appeals (‘Muh new grandson, think of muh new grandson!’) . . . 🙄
He let the cat out of the bag with his small modular nuclear reactors costing estimate. Even expensive nuclear reactors are much cheaper than renewable energy in its current form. Iran which did not sign up for Net Zero has the cheapest electricity of all major countries whilst Germany which invested heavily into renewables and closed its nuclear power plants has the most expensive electricity of all major countries. We continue to export millions of tons of coal each year to other countries which continue to build coal fired power plants for cheap reliable power.
Imagine if countries like austrilia, the us, and others had been investing in nuclear over the years instead of solar, wind, or other renewables. How much closer would we be to relatively clean, reasonably priced, low carbon emission energy?
It's easy to understand that when you realise that THEIR "renewable green energy" is a total SCAM. It is neither "green" nor "renewable". But remember, that someone is making a LOT of money from this scam.
You know that trees offset carbon. Medium sized trees alone offset Australia's carbon. That's not including any other plant life. Mangroves alone suck 50% more carbon than Medium sized trees. Its a climate scam!!!
Please God, Is there anyway that we can have an "electoral" recall of Politician's of the ilk of one Chris Bowen? Australians, we are well on the road to becoming "The Venezuela of Oceania", thanks to the UniParty that "rules" us. How can we hold our "elites" accountable for their "Managed Decline" of our once RICH country?
Very few people realize that there are nuclear power plants operating in the US. They don't like to talk about their success. Grandma has to put her emotions in the bin. This decision isn't about your single grandchild. This is about a nation's energy supply. Big difference.
I'm a Kiwi and used to live and work in the USA and had a nuclear plant not far from me, you never give it a thought. Obviously this old duck hasn't a clue what she's on about I've got over a dozen grandkids and 4 great grandkids and their future power needs to be efficient nuclear power
@@grannyannie2948exactly, this renewable garbage is going to leave her grandchild dirt poor with no chance of the same prosperity this demented grandma enjoyed, hypocrisy at its finest 😠
Coal power is cheap until you count the environmental costs. Ask old people from UK cities about the effects of smog on health and building deterioration from Acid rain.
@@ralphzoombeenie2330 yes but everything ran on coal houses where heated by it factory's ran on it trains ships power generation water pumping all ran in coal we burn nowhere the amount now the air is cleaner than it ever has been in the last 150 years since the industrial revolution Albo and bowlegs wants to get manufacturing going again who the hell would start making anything in this country with the price of electricity there's a reason company's are going to China and India and it's not all the cost of labour and red tape ohs cheap reliable power is one of the main reasons
Make sure you write the word, "No" as per the requirements stipulated in the AEC Referendum information booklet. Write with a pen you take yourself and write your choice based on an informed choice. And yes, he should run, even Federally. He's an amazing credit to his generation.
Doesn’t Bowen look stupid against a 17 year old 😂😂😂😂 great job kid, I hope you’ll be in parliament soon, you have more knowledge than the labor party put together. I will definitely vote for you 👍
Bowen was being flexible and devious with the truth by not pointing our that his $387Billion was to put a SMR into every existing power station in Australia. It would have been honest to say including nuclear power in our energy MIX of coal, gas, hydro, wind and solar generation would be around 15-20% of his estimate, and we'd have reliable, scalable base load power, generated from our own uranium. The 17 year old is right - cost isn't the problem, politics is the problem (IE the ALP - stuck in the past). Note to the ALP - when you banned nuclear energy at every stage of the cycle (in the mid 1980s), we were still using dial up phones and telex machines. Technology has moved on since then but your ideology hasn't.
SMRs are far lest efficient than a single nuclear plant, but have a niche when saving on large grid upgrades. A single nuclear plant over the full cost lifetime is marginally more expensive than coal, but far less than Solar, wind.
387 billion to replace every existing power station with SMR sounds a pretty good deal to me. As you've pointed out we don't even need to do it. And more importantly for 387 Billion we get a great electricity system. You can pump trillions into the renewable system and you still can't rely on it. All this money spent to create third world reliability issues. Put us back over 50 years .
I rarely watch Q&A, but did watch this one. I thought the 17 year old was more intelligent than the rest of the panel and moderator combined. And as both sides of politics were panel members my comment is not based on a political bias.
Theoretically we should be paying nothing for the power generated from wind or solar since it costs nothing the make it. The cost of installing/maintaining it is supposed to come from the poles and wires charge. With all the media criticism about electricity prices, I don't know why this is not being pointed out to the likes of the energy minister. BTW, the lower case title is deliberate, he doesn't deserve capitals.
Nicki Hutley must want her grand daughter to work a second job to pay her power bills and put up with the economic cost of regular power fails. Wind turbines require maintenance and replacement. Grid batteries will only last ten years then you have to replace them. The cost is ongoing.
Nicki Hutley more than likely wants her granddaughter to become a beaurocrat who continues to foist illogical, ill-thought, costly ongoing schemes upon the little people. Beaurocrats can delight in nothing better.
I work at a Texas nuclear plant during refuel and have worked several different plants. There is nothing like nuclear on the earth at this time. I couldn’t care less about so called green house gas and all that nonsense.
The elephant in the room that people like Bowen never talk about is how long wind turbines and solar panels last, not that long, and who will be responsible for their disposal ?
What about the child slavery in the Lithium mines in Africa used to produce the EV batteries. The Green movement is one big con job. We could talk about the rape of the environment the renewable energy push requires.
I want a future tribunal to try and convict the major perps of the fake global warming scam, and we will not accept the defence "I was only following orders"
its not just that but they say reactors take too long to build but they last 70 to 100 years!the time it takes to build one reactor , we are demolishing renewables for the second round of deployment and have a huge toxic waste problem to bury and a whole system to rebuild! infinite money for china and if they ever decide to not sell them to us any more , we are screwed!
thats what they all do, says u can comment but every single comment no matter who from gets deleted, it's their way of pretending not to censor, having said that u cant comment anything on it 7,9,10 do the same some times make sense?
Just got my ELECTRICITY BILL - up $200 from this time last year. Where is my rebate Albo? And so much for cheaper energy under Labor. Why would anyone in their right mind choose to only have one energy source in the future?
Go Will I’ve been speaking about nuclear for years. I’m 58 years old. That’s how long and dumb our Politicians have been. A soon as the minority protest they become dumb. Yeh Peter Garrett I’m looking at you!
I am 80+ expert in Uni physics and medicine, and have seen the baby boomers nonsense about the age of Aquarius and back to nature worship and anti-science, anti-nuclear superstition all my life. At last a generation free from the old nonsense
I work for a large company that is heavily involved in Energy sector and renewable's. I can say with all honesty that its a pipe dream. Very, very expensive. Very, very unreliable. Its got to the state that im looking for other employment because I'm selling something that I don't believe in, even worse the company I work for doesn't actually believe in. Government's State and federal are throwing 100's of millions of dollars towards something that can never produce enough energy for the current and future energy needs. Nuclear is really the only answer to ever produce enough energy with no emissions.
Ask Chris Bowen about his activities going to immigrant community centres that have aged people that don't speak english and coercing their leader's to get their members to vote for Labors favour such as the yes campaign, even though these aged members that dont speak english don't even know, or understand what they are voting for.
The same in a lot of aged care homes, a lot of them have dementia or have been locked away from this crazy world so as they wouldn't know what is up or down, Albosleazy knows this and sees this as an easy vote
@@debbiebrookes Yes, Labor lackie3s apparently fill out postal votes for these elderly Australians. Disgraceful behaviour by the people who claim they care.
@@michaelsteers4470 difference is the aged care people could speak english - the centres where Bowen is targeting are masses of people that cant speak english, and he targets the leaders they trust. Its deception on a large scale through use of propaganda and undue influence on the community leaders, through promising them potential "favours" which of course will never materialise once he gets what he wants. Sort of like this entire voice campaign. Nothing more than a ruse to get 24 activists in power that will help themselves, not the indigenous.
@@michaelsteers4470 both Liberal and Labor are wrong doing this and BOTH are on the very edge of illegal vote rigging thtough these actions when I attend for a religious ceremony, I don't want to see any politicians, or people spewing political propaganda.
@@michaelsteers4470Thank you for displaying your ignorance as most rural electorates are NOT contested by a LIBERAL candidate so just how do Liberal supporters go into those aged care centres telling residents they must vote for a NON-EXISTANT candidate. For your information most Rural electorates have a Nationals candidate and rarely if ever a Liberal. Just as Labor does not contest Rural seats but has Country Labor or some other left leaning party candidate they support. Nice try but you really need to educate yourself about politics before making silly and false accusations that are very easily disproved. As always if Lefties did not have double standards they would have NONE and you just demonstrated that simple fact.
Bowen constantly sprouts nuclear as the most expensive form of electricity generation, yet at the same time is plowing ahead with offshore wind. Of the dozens of cost comparisons I've seen on the various forms ALL place offshore wind as the most expensive, and not by just a small margin. Vastly more expensive. Coal always comes out the cheapest.
Clearly two cost comparisons you haven't seen are Lazards (unsubsidised LCOE: offshore wind US$70-131/MWh, nuclear $141-221) and CSIRO (for 2030: offshore wind LCOE AS$90-170, nuclear A$130-311, blended cost of wind and solar including firming and transmission A$83/MWh).
That kid spoke sense. WTF Grandma and her family arrangements is supposed to mean is anybody's guess. She should probably just go and knit something, get out of the way and let kid's like him speak.
Great kid go for it mate dont let the bullues run over you. Thanks for restoring my faith in the younger generation the likes of you keep Australia in sensible direction.
With all the technological advances today why can’t engineers design a safe nuclear power plant?? I’m sure they already have and it’s the only way to get away from coal.
Thorium, keep on saying it, the US started experiments back in the '60s.. China is testing now as well. They left thorium alone, because it's no good for the manufacture of nuclear weapons.. Which makes sense.
@@Poorlineforeva Riiiiight.... Listen to the experts.. Like the experts in the past 3yrs? I think your next booster is well overdue, mate... Experts will only tell you what they get told to say.. Wake the F* up, for once.. Ah, and they're expensive huh? How much are we paying for the 8 rust bucket subs which run on nuclear anyway?
@@PoorlineforevaWind turbines are ver costly and kill whales and birds. Solar needs batteries or some power storage to store energy. You have no idea.
@@merrelthorson2224 Not all unfortunately. I think pathos is used very regularly as it can be a very powerful tool to push towards people who can't be bothered with the facts. It's easier to argue emotionally. It is also a tool probably most women relate to very much and therefore are swayed by it when it comes to decisions.
Give the kid Bowens job. At least he knows what he’s talking about.
Facts don’t come with an IPA agenda
He's taller as well!
Bowen has failed in every appointment he ever held held, why is he being given any credibility now ?
wef stooge
This is what the referendum should have been about is it impacts everyone equally!
kudos to that kid for being well-spoken and well-educated on the subject. It gives me hope that there are young adults out there who are able to see past the bullshit spun by the governments. This kid has a bright future. Stay uncorrupted and you could help lead Australia towards a better future than the one the Labor muppets want us in.
Bowen and the granny better watch out because that 17 year old is smarter than the pair of them
By a mile
100%.
put together
If you think Pinocchio was smart 😂
Omg I just died with "Granny" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Australian people need to decide this question and not woke activists in the government
The Australian people did have a say- they voted those woke activists into power!
@@BatteryCommander , only 32% voted them in .
@@BatteryCommander Did we have a referendum about this? The average voter has no idea what the government is planning and both sides are bad as each other when it comes to energy, There is no climate emergency. We have a useless referendum coming which costs a mini fortune that money could have went into building a power plant.
@@indigocheetah4172 only 32%? That's unfortunately enough to do the damage though. And it's still a lot of morons voting in a lot of other morons.
@@forever_censored That's the problem - the average voter isn't interested in politics and doesn't do their research! That's why we wind up with this green energy policy nonsense and other problems. However, whether we go nuclear or not is not a referendum point, its a governance point. Let's vote in smarter Pollies that will at least consider nuclear. Educate ya mates, colleagues and family.
Will is a young man not a kid, we totally support his initiative!
its the kids future too!
NO , WE DO NOT !
@@sneakypressyour group might not, but the group the OP is referring to does.
I am a retired electrical engineer. The problem is energy maths! Here is why: all electricity production is measured in megawatt hours (MWh's) produced over 365 days and 24 hours multiplied by the specific energy capacity factor (CC). Hence, Australian produced fossil fuel producing electricity is currently 183,820,200 MWh's per year.
Therefore, solar energy of 185,820,200 MWh's divided by 365, 24, and .24 CC = 88,384.79 megawatts (MW). Cost per MW: $2,080,861 including battery backup, frequency control excluding land costs. Therefore, solar cost is $183.978 billion for a lifespan of 20-25 years.
Wind energy of 185,820,200 MWh's requires 58,923.19 MW at .36 CC average X $1,978,620 per MW = $116.587 billion for a lifespan of 20-25 years, including batteries and frequency control, excluding land costs.
With 50 per cent wind energy and 50 per cent solar energy the cost is $150.252 billion for 20-25 years plus land costs.
Nuclear energy of 185,820,200 MWh's divided by 365, 24 and .94 CC = 22,566.33 MW X $350,000 per MW on site costs = $7.899 billion. The latest cost of one 390 MW Terrestrial Energy Molten Salt Reactor is $1.140 billion each, 390 MW X .94 = 366.6 MW divided into 22,566.33 = 61.55 MSR's, 62 MSR X $1.140 billion = $70.68 billion plus $7.899 billion = $78.579 billion. MSR reactor core will last 7-12 Years maintenance free, changing the core with a new core will take about 2 hours, MSR nuclear plants can be installed at existing power station sites safely and should last at least 70 years.
MSR’s are not cooled with water; therefore they cannot produce hydrogen gas the source of nuclear meltdown and explosions. The thorium fuel is mixed with salts kept inside a sealed safe below the reactor when shut down, should it come into contact with atmosphere it would change from a fluid state into rock salts for safe clean up.
MSR reactor graphite core would be changed every 7-12 years taking about 2 hours. MSR's do not produce long term nuclear wastes; the waste burner type also will burn nuclear waste as fuel supplements. It all flies in the face of ALP anti-nuclear policy of Clive Bowen, Anthony Albanese and the latest CSIRO report on MSR costs and technology, no doubt commissioned by the Albanese government?
Nice to see a educated person on tv...Well done young man I would vote for U ...Smart, unlike the rest of them...
I've seen smarter rocks....
@@soup-nazi6824 of course U have, ...W⚓
This is a young man, obviously nervous about the "limelight" (ie he doesn't want to be there), passionately and articulately making common-sense, logical, reason-based statements and arguments and being belittled for being young. We (most Australians) put up with all the Greta bs and didn't march in the streets to make our position represented. This admirable young man has said some of the most intelligent and logical statements I've heard from anyone on TV (life for that matter) in a long time.
He should run as an Independent. He'd have my vote. His honesty and logic is refreshing, in this day and age.
Crisis Bowen is the Minister for Blackouts
Prepare for Blackouts.
And Vote No!
Cheers. And peace to you.
✌🤠👍
Especially at night when the sun is not out.
Future minister for energy right there good onya mate👍👍👍
Wonderful to listen to common sense, logic, and someone so young that can stick it to Bowen!
Because he agrees with what you think then?
What a surprise.
@@oldbloke204hey chinese troll, imagine Australia going nuclear and not buying your toxic materials that make solar panels and wind turbines
On ya, mate! That's the way! Encourage respectful debate....Hang on, that sort of thing is NO LONGER acceptable in this Once Great shit-hole of a country...@@oldbloke204
@@oldbloke204nothing wrong with nuclear. Most developed countries use them
@@Prognosis__ Your opinion then?
Seems so many of you sing from the same songbook on so many things eh?
Sort of like sheeple?
How's the release of contaminated water from the Japanese disaster going?
Strange how often that taking the "cheap" or "easy" option ends up being neither eh?
Thank you Paul Murray. We need you .
Smart kid...good on him. I vote for him. Throw the rest out.
Bowen looks the fool yet again!!
Not difficult for him on account of him being one, make that two.
Again.... when did he stop.
Because he IS.
This 17 year old was obviously the most mature , logical thinker on the entire panel.
He didn't have the logic you might expect. He may not be aware that solar energy, wind energy, and hydropower are even cleaner options compared to nuclear energy
@@thelionheart3562 Hydro is cleaner , but the amount of toxic waste we will have to deal with from broken down turbines and solar panels in the future will be enormous.
He rightly pointed out that these are going into landfill and will occupy vast volumes compared to the highly energy dense nuclear alternative.
Then comes the environmental effects of turbines and panels , huge land use , the clearing of forests , the destruction of birds ,bats and pollinating insects , the largely unknown effects on marine life , the desecration of once pristine vistas.....
There is nothing environmentally friendly or clean about wind and large solar installations, which only produce power for about one third of the time , usually when we don't actually need it , and never when we need it most.
Because he's not working for the WEF PLAYBOOK
@@thelionheart3562nuclear has lower emissions than both wind and solar.
@thelionheart3562 Yeah, because clearing hundreds or even thousands of acres of land to make a power farm that produces unreliable energy is so good for the environment.
Not to mention disposing of the used turbine blades and solar panels that can't be recycled🙄
Will Shakel's argument is clearly more compelling than Bowen's net zero zealotry.
He will never achieve Net Zero which is why him and Bowen are pushing this abbo activist group thing so hard.
We achieve net zero 20 times a year with trees… and then there’s the latest declaration from 1600 climate scientists who also say this is all bullshittery
Nothing wrong with net zero zealotry.
Its the exclusive focus on less efficient renewables thats the problem.
And that leftist boomer grandma’s attempt at ‘humour’ (‘The sun is all the nuclear we need!’), and emotional appeals (‘Muh new grandson, think of muh new grandson!’) . . . 🙄
@@ralphstern2845 yep!
I was blown away by this young man. So impressed.
Bowen is not the only one in the Labor party that is unhinged they all are and the last 15 months has been hell on earth for all Australians
He let the cat out of the bag with his small modular nuclear reactors costing estimate. Even expensive nuclear reactors are much cheaper than renewable energy in its current form.
Iran which did not sign up for Net Zero has the cheapest electricity of all major countries whilst Germany which invested heavily into renewables and closed its nuclear power plants has the most expensive electricity of all major countries.
We continue to export millions of tons of coal each year to other countries which continue to build coal fired power plants for cheap reliable power.
Poor little snowflake.
@@johngeier8692obrien couldn't come up with a single fact or statistic. Just looked a complete fool.
What did scomo do my ignorant little boy
Absolutley Brilliant...
Bowen MUST book a lesson from Will,besides BACK UP IS A MUST regardless
Imagine if countries like austrilia, the us, and others had been investing in nuclear over the years instead of solar, wind, or other renewables. How much closer would we be to relatively clean, reasonably priced, low carbon emission energy?
It's easy to understand that when you realise that THEIR "renewable green energy" is a total SCAM.
It is neither "green" nor "renewable".
But remember, that someone is making a LOT of money from this scam.
Is there a problem with carbon? If so, what is it? Is the 18.5% carbon in your own body a problem? If it is, what's the solution?
You know that trees offset carbon. Medium sized trees alone offset Australia's carbon. That's not including any other plant life. Mangroves alone suck 50% more carbon than Medium sized trees. Its a climate scam!!!
@@johnnichol9412 And yet the global temperature has only risen by 1c over the last 180 years.
Yeah the politicians regularly drop the ball here in Oz.
It could have been a 5 year old and Bowen would have still lost...
Pretty embarrassing. 17 year old has more intelligence than a federal minister.
You are grossly overestimating the intelligence of politicians… they are essentially just salesman … pleasing voters …
Bowen has zero qualifications in climate or energy and quite obvious the 17 year old outsmarts the clown Bowen hands down .
Exactly 🎯👍
Well done Will ,a huge B slap to bowen and his mum
Well done young man👏👏👏👏 bright mind, definitely run rings around the so called experts.
Wake Up Bowen listen and learn
17 year old common understanding is better than being ignorant.
That kid is a legend.
Keith Pitt and Matt Canavan would be soooo proud of this young man...👏👏👏👏👏👏
Please God, Is there anyway that we can have an "electoral" recall of Politician's of the ilk of one Chris Bowen?
Australians, we are well on the road to becoming "The Venezuela of Oceania", thanks to the UniParty that "rules" us.
How can we hold our "elites" accountable for their "Managed Decline" of our once RICH country?
His constituents can recall him at the next election, every democracy gets the government that it deserves.
Very few people realize that there are nuclear power plants operating in the US. They don't like to talk about their success. Grandma has to put her emotions in the bin. This decision isn't about your single grandchild. This is about a nation's energy supply. Big difference.
You are either incredibly stupid or a liar, or both.
If she really cared about her grandchilds future, she wouldn't be pushing the current climate policies.
I'm a Kiwi and used to live and work in the USA and had a nuclear plant not far from me, you never give it a thought. Obviously this old duck hasn't a clue what she's on about I've got over a dozen grandkids and 4 great grandkids and their future power needs to be efficient nuclear power
@@grannyannie2948exactly, this renewable garbage is going to leave her grandchild dirt poor with no chance of the same prosperity this demented grandma enjoyed, hypocrisy at its finest 😠
@@grannyannie2948 Boom Boom, 1000% correct.
Coal and gas is king regardless
Oil is also good.
Coal power is cheap until you count the environmental costs. Ask old people from UK cities about the effects of smog on health and building deterioration from Acid rain.
@@ralphzoombeenie2330 yes but everything ran on coal houses where heated by it factory's ran on it trains ships power generation water pumping all ran in coal we burn nowhere the amount now the air is cleaner than it ever has been in the last 150 years since the industrial revolution Albo and bowlegs wants to get manufacturing going again who the hell would start making anything in this country with the price of electricity there's a reason company's are going to China and India and it's not all the cost of labour and red tape ohs cheap reliable power is one of the main reasons
Three cheers for CO2 and greenhouse pollution. Hello global warming.
@@petersiekmann5175 yet ANOTHER DELUDED SIMPLETON🤮Somewhere a village is MISSING an IDIOT🤪
Let the people decide. While we are at it, add another line onto the ballot paper.
Make sure you write the word, "No" as per the requirements stipulated in the AEC Referendum information booklet. Write with a pen you take yourself and write your choice based on an informed choice.
And yes, he should run, even Federally. He's an amazing credit to his generation.
the most honest thing Chris Bowen said was "I can't think" after that it was all spin
🤔 wounder how her grand child will feel with out the basics in life and working their guts out
Thanks grandma for my generations misery
pity she was allowed to have kid/s.
Doesn’t Bowen look stupid against a 17 year old 😂😂😂😂 great job kid, I hope you’ll be in parliament soon, you have more knowledge than the labor party put together. I will definitely vote for you 👍
no he doesn't look he is...
@@gabriels32 💯
We need to get out of the UN and the WHO
Could we have a referendum to put young uncorrupted voices in parliament too...
😂
bowen cant hold a candle to this brilliant young man
Will is half Bowen's age and twice as smart.
Twice?????? No. Bowen's IQ is a negative number. - 20 x 2 = - 40. The 17 year old has an IQ above 160. So..... that is a 200 IQ point difference!
At least TWICE as Smart !!!!
That young man was absolutely spot on 👏
Bowen was being flexible and devious with the truth by not pointing our that his $387Billion was to put a SMR into every existing power station in Australia. It would have been honest to say including nuclear power in our energy MIX of coal, gas, hydro, wind and solar generation would be around 15-20% of his estimate, and we'd have reliable, scalable base load power, generated from our own uranium. The 17 year old is right - cost isn't the problem, politics is the problem (IE the ALP - stuck in the past). Note to the ALP - when you banned nuclear energy at every stage of the cycle (in the mid 1980s), we were still using dial up phones and telex machines. Technology has moved on since then but your ideology hasn't.
SMRs are far lest efficient than a single nuclear plant, but have a niche when saving on large grid upgrades. A single nuclear plant over the full cost lifetime is marginally more expensive than coal, but far less than Solar, wind.
387 billion to replace every existing power station with SMR sounds a pretty good deal to me. As you've pointed out we don't even need to do it. And more importantly for 387 Billion we get a great electricity system. You can pump trillions into the renewable system and you still can't rely on it.
All this money spent to create third world reliability issues. Put us back over 50 years .
@@Seaby41 Put us back 50 years. I'm scared of of seeing my grandchildren back 1000s of years.
Well said young man
The kid is laying out facts - the adults 'emotional puppets'. Thank goodness, kids like him are our future.
The young man is a sign that the future may be kept safe, though we do need more like him.
In intellectual terms it was not fair for Bowen to be put up against a 17 year old. (Perhaps a 3 or 4 year old may have evened the odds).
Well they are more at home hanging out with School aged children. Equal intellect.
INDEED 😀
Replace Bowen with Will.
I rarely watch Q&A, but did watch this one. I thought the 17 year old was more intelligent than the rest of the panel and moderator combined. And as both sides of politics were panel members my comment is not based on a political bias.
abc if a woke left stooge operation, sadly paid for by us
That kid is a legend
I went to sign the petition and guess what ?? Petition is now closed !!!
I am from Ontario , Canada 80. % of the hydro comes from. Nuclear
Just imagine a country with cheap power for all . Well it won't happen with black out Bowen !
Theoretically we should be paying nothing for the power generated from wind or solar since it costs nothing the make it. The cost of installing/maintaining it is supposed to come from the poles and wires charge. With all the media criticism about electricity prices, I don't know why this is not being pointed out to the likes of the energy minister. BTW, the lower case title is deliberate, he doesn't deserve capitals.
It’s not about the money. Stupid people.
Nicki Hutley must want her grand daughter to work a second job to pay her power bills and put up with the economic cost of regular power fails.
Wind turbines require maintenance and replacement. Grid batteries will only last ten years then you have to replace them.
The cost is ongoing.
I thought the same thing.
Nicki Hutley more than likely wants her granddaughter to become a beaurocrat who continues to foist illogical, ill-thought, costly ongoing schemes upon the little people.
Beaurocrats can delight in nothing better.
On top of the fact that the world keeps ending!
Name something that doesn't need maintenance and replacement.
@@indiathylane2158 Searl affect generator.
I work at a Texas nuclear plant during refuel and have worked several different plants. There is nothing like nuclear on the earth at this time. I couldn’t care less about so called green house gas and all that nonsense.
This KID Is RUINING their INVESTMENT PLANS. These are Out for THEMSELVES NOT the Australian People.
The elephant in the room that people like Bowen never talk about is how long wind turbines and solar panels last, not that long, and who will be responsible for their disposal ?
What about the child slavery in the Lithium mines in Africa used to produce the EV batteries. The Green movement is one big con job. We could talk about the rape of the environment the renewable energy push requires.
I want a future tribunal to try and convict the major perps of the fake global warming scam, and we will not accept the defence "I was only following orders"
its not just that but they say reactors take too long to build but they last 70 to 100 years!the time it takes to build one reactor , we are demolishing renewables for the second round of deployment and have a huge toxic waste problem to bury and a whole system to rebuild! infinite money for china and if they ever decide to not sell them to us any more , we are screwed!
They then become an even bigger environmental nightmare.
The ABC Had the comments open, no one had commented so i did. This boy has more brain's than the lot of you. Bingo comments deleted 😂
Typical lefty behavior...
thats what they all do, says u can comment but every single comment no matter who from gets deleted, it's their way of pretending not to censor, having said that u cant comment anything on it
7,9,10 do the same some times
make sense?
They only ever want to Project public opinion, not listen to or publish actual public opinion.
Our tax dollars hard at work, unbiased as always 🙄😂😕
👌
They love pulling the heart strings
That's all Women and Lefty tools do
This kid is a champion
I tried sharing the petition via email and guess what, Telstra has listed it as spam. I wonder why.
The same people slamming the 'kid' will be the same people wanting 16 year old's to have the vote.
Or gender changing surgery
Not in all cases
The same people slamming the 'kid' will be the same people that drool over every word of Greta Thunberg's scowl.
Too right.
He had Casanova completely stumped.
How many politicians actually know anything about the subject they are talking about. I presume it won't be very many.
So good to hear the 17yo
Just got my ELECTRICITY BILL - up $200 from this time last year. Where is my rebate Albo? And so much for cheaper energy under Labor. Why would anyone in their right mind choose to only have one energy source in the future?
Will is correct.
Having read in to what is currently available, I support his point of view at this stage.
Bowen is FOS.
Bringing a new industry to Australia would bring new jobs and new skills
Nuclear energy should be a subject of proper referendum in Australia.
Go Will I’ve been speaking about nuclear for years. I’m 58 years old. That’s how long and dumb our Politicians have been. A soon as the minority protest they become dumb. Yeh Peter Garrett I’m looking at you!
I am 80+ expert in Uni physics and medicine, and have seen the baby boomers nonsense about the age of Aquarius and back to nature worship and anti-science, anti-nuclear superstition all my life. At last a generation free from the old nonsense
I'd deadset be surprised if Chris Bowen could count to 25 without taking off his bloody socks mate.
This kid is smarter than Bowen
I work for a large company that is heavily involved in Energy sector and renewable's. I can say with all honesty that its a pipe dream. Very, very expensive. Very, very unreliable. Its got to the state that im looking for other employment because I'm selling something that I don't believe in, even worse the company I work for doesn't actually believe in. Government's State and federal are throwing 100's of millions of dollars towards something that can never produce enough energy for the current and future energy needs. Nuclear is really the only answer to ever produce enough energy with no emissions.
Not a fair fight as Bowen has the mental capacity of a 6yo...
INDEED !!!!!
The 17 year old has much more skin in the game than that old woman and BS Bowen. He is the future 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🥇
Ask Chris Bowen about his activities going to immigrant community centres that have aged people that don't speak english and coercing their leader's to get their members to vote for Labors favour such as the yes campaign, even though these aged members that dont speak english don't even know, or understand what they are voting for.
The same in a lot of aged care homes, a lot of them have dementia or have been locked away from this crazy world so as they wouldn't know what is up or down, Albosleazy knows this and sees this as an easy vote
@@debbiebrookes Yes, Labor lackie3s apparently fill out postal votes for these elderly Australians. Disgraceful behaviour by the people who claim they care.
@@michaelsteers4470 difference is the aged care people could speak english - the centres where Bowen is targeting are masses of people that cant speak english, and he targets the leaders they trust. Its deception on a large scale through use of propaganda and undue influence on the community leaders, through promising them potential "favours" which of course will never materialise once he gets what he wants. Sort of like this entire voice campaign. Nothing more than a ruse to get 24 activists in power that will help themselves, not the indigenous.
@@michaelsteers4470 both Liberal and Labor are wrong doing this and BOTH are on the very edge of illegal vote rigging thtough these actions when I attend for a religious ceremony, I don't want to see any politicians, or people spewing political propaganda.
@@michaelsteers4470Thank you for displaying your ignorance as most rural electorates are NOT contested by a LIBERAL candidate so just how do Liberal supporters go into those aged care centres telling residents they must vote for a NON-EXISTANT candidate.
For your information most Rural electorates have a Nationals candidate and rarely if ever a Liberal. Just as Labor does not contest Rural seats but has Country Labor or some other left leaning party candidate they support.
Nice try but you really need to educate yourself about politics before making silly and false accusations that are very easily disproved.
As always if Lefties did not have double standards they would have NONE and you just demonstrated that simple fact.
This young seventeen year old is going places Bowen has left like a fool that he is .
Bowen constantly sprouts nuclear as the most expensive form of electricity generation, yet at the same time is plowing ahead with offshore wind.
Of the dozens of cost comparisons I've seen on the various forms ALL place offshore wind as the most expensive, and not by just a small margin. Vastly more expensive. Coal always comes out the cheapest.
Clearly two cost comparisons you haven't seen are Lazards (unsubsidised LCOE: offshore wind US$70-131/MWh, nuclear $141-221) and CSIRO (for 2030: offshore wind LCOE AS$90-170, nuclear A$130-311, blended cost of wind and solar including firming and transmission A$83/MWh).
Me thinks someone is getting a Big Kickback here.
@@gibbonsdp Bollocks.
We don't have politicians with common sense.
Excellent, LTO Nuclear is the cheapest form of energy at around $US30 MWh.
Bowen was outclassed
That kid spoke sense. WTF Grandma and her family arrangements is supposed to mean is anybody's guess. She should probably just go and knit something, get out of the way and let kid's like him speak.
signed the petition
It's hilarious that Bowen got bested by a kid
Great kid go for it mate dont let the bullues run over you.
Thanks for restoring my faith in the younger generation the likes of you keep Australia in sensible direction.
Bowen's brain has been infected with green mold
I saw this brilliant boy..👏 👏 👌
If Labor say renewables will cost 1.9T, maybe add 50% to get somewhat closer to true cost.
Aren't we lucky to have journalists that know more about energy than engineers.
With all the technological advances today why can’t engineers design a safe nuclear power plant?? I’m sure they already have and it’s the only way to get away from coal.
Thorium, keep on saying it, the US started experiments back in the '60s.. China is testing now as well. They left thorium alone, because it's no good for the manufacture of nuclear weapons.. Which makes sense.
They can't make them as cheap, or as quickly as renewables . Listen to the experts not schoolboys and shock jocks.
@@Poorlineforeva Riiiiight.... Listen to the experts.. Like the experts in the past 3yrs? I think your next booster is well overdue, mate...
Experts will only tell you what they get told to say.. Wake the F* up, for once..
Ah, and they're expensive huh? How much are we paying for the 8 rust bucket subs which run on nuclear anyway?
@@PoorlineforevaWind turbines are ver costly and kill whales and birds. Solar needs batteries or some power storage to store energy. You have no idea.
@@Poorlineforeva Well, I guess you’ve solved the energy crisis!! Good job!!
Already have blackouts
between the ears of Bowen and Albosleasy
Irrational to ban an energy that has not killed a single person
Good on this young man challenging Bowen you know morevthan him ignorant minister. Go young man you have it correct.
Nuclear is expensive like Andrews Commonwealth games has suddenly become expensive. Funny that.
Go Green Go Nuclear WAKE UP
The 17 is of course more pragmatic. He'll be stuck with whatever bullocks they cock up for a lot longer than they will.
Bowen should be one day in prison for destroying Australian future...
Women and their fckn emotion, ffs
I quite agree, emotions should be put on hold when debating serious issues, emotions do cloud ones judgements.
@@merrelthorson2224 Not all unfortunately. I think pathos is used very regularly as it can be a very powerful tool to push towards people who can't be bothered with the facts. It's easier to argue emotionally. It is also a tool probably most women relate to very much and therefore are swayed by it when it comes to decisions.
What cowards at the ABC! They blocked comments on the Q&A session discussing nuclear power!