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16:00 when doing the timeline sync method, is there a way to quickly delete all the extra audio that’s not part of a video clip? Rather than manually trimming all the excess audio? Useful when there are lots of video clips and gaps between those
Yay! Delivery as promised. Thank you for covering this Chadwick! Many of us are heavily invested in Tentacle and anything that teaches me about DR and Tentacle is genuinely appreciated. Now - 1 request and 1 question. I think I know the answer to the question already, but here goes - why don't you talk about Tentacle Studio? (My guess is you are trying to do everything from DR and maybe you don't use it in your workflow?). Now my request - can you please do another video with the same timecode tips and Black Magic TC tips - but.... do it from the Multicam perspective! I love your multicam tips and tricks!
Hey there, am enjoying this video. You can now monitor the audio if you download the app. It has a small delay and you need to be within Bluetooth range. Have to say the Track E is a great little recorder. Keep up the good work!
@@CreativeVideoTips I can confirm that monitoring audio from the Track-E is possible, even with bluetooth headphones. (European Track-E). The Tentacle settings app must be active on the Track-E details page and monitor function active. As soon as that app page is not in focus on the Android device, Track-E monitor audio is turned off. The monitor audio has some time delay, but gives at least an idea of what the mic hears and the Track-E records in almost real time. 🙂
Great video. Do you like these better than the newer Deity PR-2 ? Also Could you please do a video on how to sync time code with a DJI Osmo Action 4 or 5 cam?
Thank you, I haven't tried that new deity recorder so I can't say. I will say these track e's continue to get used several times each month. It's the only way I've gotten great recordings with people in yelling environments all mic'd up.
Thank you so much! Do you recommend the tentacle track e? I need a timecode solution. I am a solo, shooter and shoot weddings, interviews, and Talking Heads.
Thank you. Absolutely. Hands down, still today - this is the one I would buy. Note - you still need a tentacle sync e for your camera if it's not an iPhone. Together they save so much time in post.
Thanks for the clearly explained video. Its dissapointing that there is still a correction needed despite doing all the timecode stuff correctly and buying all the gear. Perhaps Resolve should ask what camera the video footage came from and auto correct the 2 frame offset based on the camera make and model and its known offset delay? For example I know with the Tentacle TIMEBAR app there is an offset setting for GoPros(already set in the app) and I had no complaints for a Track E and GoPro series I worked on recently. Most cameras must have a known delay that could be programmed into the workflow as soon as possible, that delay could be defined even in prep workflow tests and then on the ingest phase in post before audio sync up. On a different note - I wonder about the AAF hand off from picture department to post sound - can teh quality of the AAF and if it works or not depend on the chosen method of sync and link between audio recorder and camera files? Does how you sync and marry audio to video before the picture edit matter about metadata thoughput at the AAF hand off stage at the end when the picture edit is locked off? Is there an ideal method of audio and video sync between camera rushes and sound rushes so that all the metadata from the sound files gets through the AAF export and that it shows up in ProTools? Like that option of creating a subclip or other options in whatever video editing software is being used?
Huge thanks Chadwick. I've been waiting for this Tutorial since I got my new iPhone 15! Now the very powerfull Combo Track E + iPhone 15 makes much more sense. Appreciate much your Effort especially in frozen Terrace :)
Huge thank you back at you! You need to let me know what you think of the new iPhone. I've seen some great things with the new apple log format and really think its such a great combo when you can pair good sound with tools like the track e.
@@CreativeVideoTips my pleasure to learn from you. iPhone 15 Pro helps me make more BTS stuff in high quality. Surprisingly it's front camera works great. Anywhere I can make a content with desired quality. Appreciate usbc to transfer data or direct record to ssd. Log profile saves a lot in shadows. Track E for amazing sound and synchronization. Both together extremely useful and lightweight combo in your pocket.
As always a great video with great presentation, I have sync E’s and Hollyland Lark Max wireless Mics with onboard recording so no timecode to them but I can get close enough and eyeball / waveform align the sync the most important part for me is keeping multiple cameras in sync with the tentacles.
Great tips, thanks. I use the Track E method as well for my BMPCC 6k Pro. The only thing I haven't done is spring for the mics you are using. After having synced the audio, editing is a pleasure.
Thanks for sharing! I think having a locking plug is the most important for my documentary stuff that I would use this for. You can always eq later if the mic stays in position.
Very nice video. I currently have the DJI Mic 1, how would you compare this solution to the Rode Wireless Pro or DJI Mic 2? Both have internal audio with 32 bit float, Rode Wireless has timecode. I can't really wrap my head around whether its better to record the audio to the track wirelessly or sync later, or use the internal recording as a backup. I'm also not 100% certain how timecode works, and the difference between the Track E and the Sync E. Great explainer of this workflow, does it also work with multicam clips, do you sync the audio first and then create the multi cam clip? Sorry, I know I have a ton of questions.
@@CreativeVideoTips I’ve done that but have only successfully jammed the track e from deity, once. Couldn’t do it again. Just can’t seem to get the steps right. Even then, I think I’d prefer to figure out how to go in the other direction. Output the timecode from the track e to the deity tc-1. The wirelessly sync the other deity’s to that jammed one…
@@arielreyes001 to go from track e out, just make sure the diety is set to Line In to receive the TC. I should make a video, I like both systems a lot and do use them both at the same time.
@@CreativeVideoTips just tried and couldn’t get it figured out lol. I can go from the deity to the track e now but not from the track e out to the deity. To be clear I do not own a sync e, just the track e. I look fw to the video
I love my TrackE recorders. Use them all the time, and I appreciate the iPhone overview. I’ve not had a reason to test this out. Just the same there’s one caveat to 32-bit recording. If the mic capsule can’t handle the sound pressure in an environment there’s no recovering the distortion in post. For most forms of dialog recording the talent has to literally scream for problems to occur, but on a subway platform it might not work out. Gain staging still matters as does using quality lavs which can handle the peak sound loads.
One wonders why at 12:40 you don't use Insert Selected Clips To Timeline Using Timecode? That way you would have achieved the desired effect straight away.
Really good point. Honestly it was an oversight. You are right! I recently showed someone the audio waveform sync and that was stuck in my head. I don’t typically sync on the timeline but you’re right. It can be simpler like you mention. Thank you!
Hi. Excellent tutorial, as always. Quick question though: do I just need the Track-E or do i need the Sync-E too And can it sync multiple iPhones? My grandsons often like to film at the same time with their phones!
Thank you! For this setup, you only need the track-e for syncing with a phone. I haven't tested with 2 phones yet but if I get a chance to snag my wife's for moment, I'll see if that works with 1 track e and 2 phones. Not sure - that would be great if it does.
@@CreativeVideoTips Thanks for the update. Am planning to get a track-e at the end of February. Will then have a chance to test whether it can work with several phones at once. If you haven't tried by then I'll post a note saying what I find at the time.
@@CreativeVideoTips Hi. Very belated reply! Was just showing a friend the BlackMagic Camera app on his android phone. Realised I could test the tentacle track-e with 2 devices, and both my iPhone and his Android phone picked up the same timecode. Multicam messing around here I come! :)
Quick question, were looking to add a iphone 15 into a multicam op with TC, and using Deity TC1s, would you plug a usb C > TRS into the phone / deity and then sync and leave it there like we would with our LTC other timecode units? Or can you send it through bluetooth as you did there, just wary of any drift associated with wirelessly sending TC.
The Track E has a 5v power output , the plugin power of the rode lav is 2.7v doesnt the mean it would be fried from the extra power? And I thought the sanken didnt have a Tentacle transmitter option ? Or do all 3.5 trs work with all 3.5 trs transmitters/recivecerz
Even your last 'problem' is easily solved. Connect the Tentacle via a 3.5 inch cable to a Rode Wireless Pro II. The Rode receiver on your camera will allow live monitoring via the camera.
If you’re adding a Rode Wireless Pro into the mix, doesn’t this defeat the need for the Tentacle Sync? 1) it supposedly does time-code gen sync (if it is the time source) and 2) it has 32-bit audio recording built into the transmitter. Can see a use case for one or the other perhaps?
Here is a quick tip :-) when inserting clips to timeline based on timecode, you can do the same thing with the tentacle audio tracks. Just select them and append to timeline. You don't need to manually select the video and audio tracks, and link them on the timeline. This method of linking multiple tracks is VERY usefull, especially when you have loads of different cameras and clips. You just need to route them to their destination tracks before appending
@@CreativeVideoTips I think this could be worth a seperate video ;-) everybody does the linking with cam-tags in the meta properties and multicam timelines. Thats very complicated, because you also have to deal with the merged audio channels this way. This method is so much easier. Avid can do the same thing btw
I think one of the issues that you are having with audio still being out of sync is not an issue with the Tentacle Track e but its a limitation of the iPhone reciording Varible Frame Rate. Meaning 30FPS is actually anywhere between 28.5 to 31 FPS. This is not a Davincicamera app issue either its all on Apple. Its super frustrating as its almost the perfect workflow......
The Track E looks nice, but is something that I will sadly never invest in. Here in Canada they go for over $500 *each* which is quite frankly highway robbery. For me someone that makes a few videos a month and syncs the audio by wave form, I have a couple of way cheaper methods that I use and give me great results and I sync manually and it just works. This is for someone with disposable income or a professional, not your average YourTube creator. :)
Yes there certainly is a cost. I don’t fully understand why they are as much as they are but what I’ve been told by a Panasonic rep for why they can’t put them in cameras is that those temperature compensating crystal oscillators are the expensive part. And they would have a hard time competing on price. Maybe we will get lucky in the future if those prices come down.
@@CreativeVideoTips Well to be fair its a 32-bit floating recorder and time encoder, but still they are asking a high premium for those that care to shave a few steps out of their post processing. :)
If ALL Recording Devices Cameras/Audio Recorders/Wireless Mics/Video Recorders. Anything that records an Electronic signal had an atomic clock with REAL TIME Then all recordings would be easily Synced By REAL TIME and no need for Expensive add on TIME CODE Devices.
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Lavalier Microphones ➡ geni.us/cheaperlav and geni.us/betterlav
Desk Microphone ➡ geni.us/ethosmic
Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.
I've done this many times before, but I still learned 3 cool things! Thanks
Thanks so much!!
16:00 when doing the timeline sync method, is there a way to quickly delete all the extra audio that’s not part of a video clip? Rather than manually trimming all the excess audio? Useful when there are lots of video clips and gaps between those
18:51 looks like I found my answer, using the Media Pool method here. Amazing thanks.
The Man always delivers - so grateful for your videos
My pleasure! I'm grateful there are other people that care about resolve workflow stuff like me :)
I love your videos. So thorough. There's never any point where I feel like I'm missing context or an important detail. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Yay! Delivery as promised. Thank you for covering this Chadwick! Many of us are heavily invested in Tentacle and anything that teaches me about DR and Tentacle is genuinely appreciated. Now - 1 request and 1 question. I think I know the answer to the question already, but here goes - why don't you talk about Tentacle Studio? (My guess is you are trying to do everything from DR and maybe you don't use it in your workflow?). Now my request - can you please do another video with the same timecode tips and Black Magic TC tips - but.... do it from the Multicam perspective! I love your multicam tips and tricks!
Dude thanks o much for doing this video! Answered so many of my questions. I’m buying all my tentacle gear from your affiliate links. Thanks again!
Hey there, am enjoying this video. You can now monitor the audio if you download the app. It has a small delay and you need to be within Bluetooth range. Have to say the Track E is a great little recorder. Keep up the good work!
I need to try that monitor feature. Thanks for letting me know and the kind words.
@@CreativeVideoTips I can confirm that monitoring audio from the Track-E is possible, even with bluetooth headphones. (European Track-E). The Tentacle settings app must be active on the Track-E details page and monitor function active. As soon as that app page is not in focus on the Android device, Track-E monitor audio is turned off. The monitor audio has some time delay, but gives at least an idea of what the mic hears and the Track-E records in almost real time.
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Awesome video! This was really educational. You just took away a lot of head-scratching in regards to timecode! THANK YOU from Denmark.
Thanks so much. Glad it was helpful.
Great video. Do you like these better than the newer Deity PR-2 ? Also Could you please do a video on how to sync time code with a DJI Osmo Action 4 or 5 cam?
Thank you, I haven't tried that new deity recorder so I can't say. I will say these track e's continue to get used several times each month. It's the only way I've gotten great recordings with people in yelling environments all mic'd up.
Thank you so much!
Do you recommend the tentacle track e? I need a timecode solution. I am a solo, shooter and shoot weddings, interviews, and Talking Heads.
Thank you. Absolutely. Hands down, still today - this is the one I would buy. Note - you still need a tentacle sync e for your camera if it's not an iPhone. Together they save so much time in post.
@@CreativeVideoTips thanks, i have read a lot about them and there had to be a reason they are so widely adopted.
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I was just wondering about this and then you made this video. Thanks!
AMAZING unique update, great going. wishing you many more subscribers
what do you think about Deity tc1?
Great video. Thank you, Chad. I know this is a LOT of work. I appreciate it. I’m filming for a reality TV series and this has got me thinking.
Thanks for the clearly explained video.
Its dissapointing that there is still a correction needed despite doing all the timecode stuff correctly and buying all the gear.
Perhaps Resolve should ask what camera the video footage came from and auto correct the 2 frame offset based on the camera make and model and its known offset delay?
For example I know with the Tentacle TIMEBAR app there is an offset setting for GoPros(already set in the app) and I had no complaints for a Track E and GoPro series I worked on recently. Most cameras must have a known delay that could be programmed into the workflow as soon as possible, that delay could be defined even in prep workflow tests and then on the ingest phase in post before audio sync up.
On a different note - I wonder about the AAF hand off from picture department to post sound - can teh quality of the AAF and if it works or not depend on the chosen method of sync and link between audio recorder and camera files?
Does how you sync and marry audio to video before the picture edit matter about metadata thoughput at the AAF hand off stage at the end when the picture edit is locked off?
Is there an ideal method of audio and video sync between camera rushes and sound rushes so that all the metadata from the sound files gets through the AAF export and that it shows up in ProTools? Like that option of creating a subclip or other options in whatever video editing software is being used?
Huge thanks Chadwick. I've been waiting for this Tutorial since I got my new iPhone 15!
Now the very powerfull Combo Track E + iPhone 15 makes much more sense.
Appreciate much your Effort especially in frozen Terrace :)
Huge thank you back at you! You need to let me know what you think of the new iPhone. I've seen some great things with the new apple log format and really think its such a great combo when you can pair good sound with tools like the track e.
@@CreativeVideoTips my pleasure to learn from you.
iPhone 15 Pro helps me make more BTS stuff in high quality. Surprisingly it's front camera works great. Anywhere I can make a content with desired quality.
Appreciate usbc to transfer data or direct record to ssd.
Log profile saves a lot in shadows.
Track E for amazing sound and synchronization.
Both together extremely useful and lightweight combo in your pocket.
Thanks for sharing, this was very informative!!!
As always a great video with great presentation, I have sync E’s and Hollyland Lark Max wireless Mics with onboard recording so no timecode to them but I can get close enough and eyeball / waveform align the sync the most important part for me is keeping multiple cameras in sync with the tentacles.
Brilliant. 10/10 this channel 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🎬🇮🇹🎥
Great tips, thanks. I use the Track E method as well for my BMPCC 6k Pro. The only thing I haven't done is spring for the mics you are using. After having synced the audio, editing is a pleasure.
Thanks for sharing! I think having a locking plug is the most important for my documentary stuff that I would use this for. You can always eq later if the mic stays in position.
Very nice video. I currently have the DJI Mic 1, how would you compare this solution to the Rode Wireless Pro or DJI Mic 2? Both have internal audio with 32 bit float, Rode Wireless has timecode. I can't really wrap my head around whether its better to record the audio to the track wirelessly or sync later, or use the internal recording as a backup. I'm also not 100% certain how timecode works, and the difference between the Track E and the Sync E.
Great explainer of this workflow, does it also work with multicam clips, do you sync the audio first and then create the multi cam clip? Sorry, I know I have a ton of questions.
Same questions here. What did you go with?
always thing sot learn form your videos. the airdrop tip will save a ton of time. thannks
Do you have a tutorial on how to jam deity tc 1 with tentacle track e? In either direction, whichever you recommend…
I don't, but this is a good suggestion. You use the audio cable and directly plug one into the other.
@@CreativeVideoTips I’ve done that but have only successfully jammed the track e from deity, once. Couldn’t do it again. Just can’t seem to get the steps right. Even then, I think I’d prefer to figure out how to go in the other direction. Output the timecode from the track e to the deity tc-1. The wirelessly sync the other deity’s to that jammed one…
@@arielreyes001 to go from track e out, just make sure the diety is set to Line In to receive the TC. I should make a video, I like both systems a lot and do use them both at the same time.
@@CreativeVideoTips just tried and couldn’t get it figured out lol. I can go from the deity to the track e now but not from the track e out to the deity. To be clear I do not own a sync e, just the track e. I look fw to the video
Hey Chad! Is it possible to do timecode sync and everything you covered in this video also with the Rode Wireless Pro? Thank you:)
Some time later, are you satisfied with the iphone + tentacle sync workflow? Does it work even though iphone records variable framerate?
Great video. Thanks.
can you go out of blue tooth range and will it resync when you move closer?
I love my TrackE recorders. Use them all the time, and I appreciate the iPhone overview. I’ve not had a reason to test this out. Just the same there’s one caveat to 32-bit recording. If the mic capsule can’t handle the sound pressure in an environment there’s no recovering the distortion in post. For most forms of dialog recording the talent has to literally scream for problems to occur, but on a subway platform it might not work out. Gain staging still matters as does using quality lavs which can handle the peak sound loads.
Thank you!
One wonders why at 12:40 you don't use Insert Selected Clips To Timeline Using Timecode? That way you would have achieved the desired effect straight away.
Really good point. Honestly it was an oversight. You are right! I recently showed someone the audio waveform sync and that was stuck in my head.
I don’t typically sync on the timeline but you’re right. It can be simpler like you mention. Thank you!
Could you give a link to those lav covers please 4:45
For sure - this is them - bhpho.to/3HKrXr7
For the Rode Lav II actually put it in this Sennheiser concealer - bhpho.to/3S3EHxB
Hi. Excellent tutorial, as always. Quick question though: do I just need the Track-E or do i need the Sync-E too And can it sync multiple iPhones? My grandsons often like to film at the same time with their phones!
Thank you! For this setup, you only need the track-e for syncing with a phone. I haven't tested with 2 phones yet but if I get a chance to snag my wife's for moment, I'll see if that works with 1 track e and 2 phones. Not sure - that would be great if it does.
@@CreativeVideoTips Thanks for the update. Am planning to get a track-e at the end of February. Will then have a chance to test whether it can work with several phones at once. If you haven't tried by then I'll post a note saying what I find at the time.
@@CreativeVideoTips Hi. Very belated reply! Was just showing a friend the BlackMagic Camera app on his android phone. Realised I could test the tentacle track-e with 2 devices, and both my iPhone and his Android phone picked up the same timecode. Multicam messing around here I come! :)
Quick question, were looking to add a iphone 15 into a multicam op with TC, and using Deity TC1s, would you plug a usb C > TRS into the phone / deity and then sync and leave it there like we would with our LTC other timecode units? Or can you send it through bluetooth as you did there, just wary of any drift associated with wirelessly sending TC.
The Bluetooth only works with tentacle right now.
I haven’t tried running with audio tc into phone but that might work well.
The Track E has a 5v power output , the plugin power of the rode lav is 2.7v doesnt the mean it would be fried from the extra power? And I thought the sanken didnt have a Tentacle transmitter option ? Or do all 3.5 trs work with all 3.5 trs transmitters/recivecerz
Even your last 'problem' is easily solved. Connect the Tentacle via a 3.5 inch cable to a Rode Wireless Pro II. The Rode receiver on your camera will allow live monitoring via the camera.
If you’re adding a Rode Wireless Pro into the mix, doesn’t this defeat the need for the Tentacle Sync? 1) it supposedly does time-code gen sync (if it is the time source) and 2) it has 32-bit audio recording built into the transmitter.
Can see a use case for one or the other perhaps?
@@benny78boi you don’t add the Rode to the mix, but you can monitor the sound your Tentacle is recording live.
Here is a quick tip :-) when inserting clips to timeline based on timecode, you can do the same thing with the tentacle audio tracks. Just select them and append to timeline. You don't need to manually select the video and audio tracks, and link them on the timeline. This method of linking multiple tracks is VERY usefull, especially when you have loads of different cameras and clips. You just need to route them to their destination tracks before appending
Whoa! I had no clue about this. This is what I love about UA-cam. Thanks so much for sharing.
@@CreativeVideoTips I think this could be worth a seperate video ;-) everybody does the linking with cam-tags in the meta properties and multicam timelines. Thats very complicated, because you also have to deal with the merged audio channels this way. This method is so much easier. Avid can do the same thing btw
I think one of the issues that you are having with audio still being out of sync is not an issue with the Tentacle Track e but its a limitation of the iPhone reciording Varible Frame Rate. Meaning 30FPS is actually anywhere between 28.5 to 31 FPS. This is not a Davincicamera app issue either its all on Apple. Its super frustrating as its almost the perfect workflow......
The Track E looks nice, but is something that I will sadly never invest in. Here in Canada they go for over $500 *each* which is quite frankly highway robbery. For me someone that makes a few videos a month and syncs the audio by wave form, I have a couple of way cheaper methods that I use and give me great results and I sync manually and it just works. This is for someone with disposable income or a professional, not your average YourTube creator. :)
Yes there certainly is a cost. I don’t fully understand why they are as much as they are but what I’ve been told by a Panasonic rep for why they can’t put them in cameras is that those temperature compensating crystal oscillators are the expensive part. And they would have a hard time competing on price.
Maybe we will get lucky in the future if those prices come down.
@@CreativeVideoTips Well to be fair its a 32-bit floating recorder and time encoder, but still they are asking a high premium for those that care to shave a few steps out of their post processing. :)
0:22 😋 But you are still awesome!
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If ALL Recording Devices Cameras/Audio Recorders/Wireless Mics/Video Recorders. Anything that records an Electronic signal had an atomic clock with REAL TIME Then all recordings would be easily Synced By REAL TIME and no need for Expensive add on TIME CODE Devices.
very true, but we would all have to pay more for something the general public wouldn't be using.