That awkward moment when late medieval German authorities did more to punish those abusive creeps than many modern jurisdictions do today to similar pimps and abusers.
Modern authorities focus on rehabilitation, not so much punishment. What's the quote? You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its criminals. Something like that. Violent/humiliating retributive justice isn't an effective deterrent anyway. Throwing rotten cabbages at criminals in the stocks, or cutting their hearts out and rubbing it in their faces as they died, had a negligible effect on crime rates. Violent crime was common during the medieval era. Youre much safer in the modern Western world than people were in the 1400's. In almost every way imaginable.
@@answerman9933 Because allegedly women were seen as second class citizens and had no rights then, and yet today’s supposedly forward thinking societies fail to protect them from the most obvious abuse
Monkey pox is just syphilis. It has all the same symptoms both the hideous visuals and the internal necrotizing. It is absolutely been analyzed and found to be nearly identical uuhuuuhpuuuhuu
Unfortunately, as horrendous as it already is, STDs still harm babies. I knew a girl in high school in the late aughts who wore the thickest coke bottle glasses I’ve still ever seen. They were so thick and magnified it made her eyes appear smaller. Well one day in class, bc no one dared to ask, she admitted that her father caught gonorrhea while her mother was already pregnant with her. The mother had no idea & during birth gonorrhea got all in her eyes. I felt privileged she trusted us but it really pissed me off how others would treat her. It had before but knowing the truth added another layer of unfairness. She unfortunately had to live with the sins of her father literally affecting her life every single day.
@@Garbeaux. if there were not any buyers then they would not be selling. There were very few jobs for women yet they were supposed to survive. If the clergy had been so Christian then they would have made sure women that had no men or family had a way to provide for themselves without having to sell their bodies.
Amazing that prostitutes were “deceitful” when it was obvious what they were selling, in a time when marriages were arranged, yet wives were to “love” an unknown, often brutal spouse.
Man life sucked back then. But if you were a single woman with few options to survive in a cruel world, life extra sucked. I really can’t fathom how men and women back then were able to get through their daily lives. I know I wouldn’t last very long.
I often question how I’m here because of the past and how generations before me had to survive but then in 500 years time people might be saying the same about this generation.
My heart breaks for these women. Being forced to sell yourself (kidnapped, sold by your own family, on threat of torture and death), being forced to go through the agony of abortion, being forced to continue being raped directly after almost dying, being beaten because the men who couldn't control themselves complained that the woman who was forced wasn't "lively"... Times really haven't changed in this regard. And it's infuriating that so many men still make excuses and blame us for their evil actions. Just take a look at this comment section to see this attitude. The fact that marital rape has been acknowledged and criminalized only in the past couple decades (in western countries)... we need to do much better at treating women as human beings worthy of basic decency and respect.
@crazytrain216 Where do you think your safe life comes from? Men. Men protect your life and your rights as soldiers, law enforcement etc. Even your right to vote was because Men made it so. Don't ever think women did that. They did not. Also the right to vote for men still comes withe the legal REQUIREMENT to register for selective service for the draft. Women have zero requirements to vote.
They still are. Sex trafficking is a huge problem. Nothing has changed. Women are exploited, used, abused and often killed bey men for men. It is all so sad how much we are still the prey to men's lust and the victims of their violence at the same time. All our lives we have to be on the lookout for men who want us harm. Fortunately there are good men out there.
@@dingo1666 I agree with you in some aspects (third world countries women are still treated badly, certain religions still see women as second class citizens if a citizen at all, I remember last year when Afghanistan was taken over by the Taliban again and seeing videos of women crying because they were going to lose all of their rights again, sex trafficking, in Africa women's bodies being purposely deformed because rape is so prevalent, prostitutes still being treated like the scum of the earth, societal pressure to get married have kids always look beautiful and be kind, etc) but not in others- for the most part us women have it a million times better nowadays then women used to have it like we're not even in the same universe as Els, the other women who worked in that brothel or women period over the last 600+ years, we have rights our women ancestors couldn't even dream of (and women who dared to go against that in history have always been called "She Wolves" or "Whores" despite men at the time doing the same exact thing) and some bad men don't make that null and void 🤷🏻♀️ We still have issues no doubt it ain't perfect but saying nothing has changed and that we still have it as bad as our women ancestors did is disrespectful to them IMO.
So female prostitutes were seen as incredibly sinful but men’s “sexual urges” that were the reason the prostitutes had business/purpose in the first place was completely forgiven. 🎶Tale as Old as Time…🎶
In medieval times they had this sort of “hydraulic” theory of men’s sexual desire. Prostitution was thought to be a necessity to prevent widespread sexual abuse of girls and women , and homosexual sex. Of course, prostitution does that very thing-it systematizes abuse of girls, women and young boys. Really wrong headed thinking
found your channel about two days ago, i’ve been binge watching all of the videos now. these videos provide such detail on very basic topics. i love it. instead of just going from one main point to another it gives real experiences.
You made an interesting statement; that most of the girls were sold to brothels by their own families. In any age, among any people, a strong family is paramount. Without it----- May God help you.
In Germany prostitution is legal. That means (amongst other things) that the workers can go to the police if they are attacked. It is treated as any other assault case. The moment prostitution is legalised, the workers are far more protected and have legal rights. My opinion is it should be legalised all over the world for the sake of the workers.
@@juneroberts5305 So you are now using poor workers as an excuse for your own sin and "goodbeing"? Even a 5 yrs old could easily spot your true tendencies.
It’s crazy to me how this investigation of the medieval ages feels more through and respectable than what I think I would get today provided that I found myself in this situation…🥺
These horrific descriptions of Human ignorance, greed, depravity and violence through the ages points to the fact that Human's evolution is yet fragmentary and PROTOTYPICAL at best!
Gotta love how downplayed all the dirty things archeologists find all over. I love that you dont have any aversion to these great (and exceedingly human) pasts
Very sad how people spent their short lives on this Earth. Sadder still that many continue down the same path or worse even today. May God have mercy on them all.
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I love this channel. I love learning about this time and history. You should start another channel about colonial life in the 13 colonies- but other places too. You could call it “colonial chaos”
Very interesting topic. Nothing you said surprises me. And we thought it was still a man’s world today. I can’t imagine how brutal their lives must have been.
"Money is evil, give it to us!" "Let us practice evil, so that our brethren may be spared of it!" "god loves you unconditionally, unless you break these 10 random rules, in which case you will rot in hell for all of eternity" - the church
What I've learned from research and many sources from around the internet is how surprisingly progressive the treatment of women was by the establishment in medieval societies. Going back as far as pre-rome, women were afforded modern rights. Whether that be possession of their children or even pregnancy leave on the odd occasion a woman was in work. Great video by the way, I'm unsure why you haven't as many subscribers as one would think you deserve. Best of luck concerning the future of your channel.
@@jigsawchan5364 We've progressed so much that we can now whine about the past as if it were present day context. The complaint is so dumb at this point. But...everyone needs a hobby :|
@@woociferaww I'm so sorry, you're right, us women should stop complaining, we have so much already... I'm so so sorry sir. 😞 a woman like me should know to be eternally grateful for whatever crumbs men give us
Sad and disturbing to see how little has changed for women and sex workers. As lately as the 1800s in the New York City prostitution was almost as big a business as ship building. The women saw little of that money. Today the element of shame allows pimps to take the money but it does something else. In the past and today the customers walk away, having done exactly what the woman did, yet face no shame and no penalty. This is no accident. Women have to be one down so they will never reveal and never be believed if they do, the identities of the men and what acts have been perpetrated. Most of Epstein's pals will never be charged, let alone punished. No progress in hundreds of years... medicine, science, agriculture, transportation, housing...everything has changed, except this.
Old piss is sterile, so unlike many things that wasn't really that bad to clean with it. They used to use it for a variety of reasons, and the Romans used it for washing clothes. (Its great for getting grease out.) And vinegar is a good anti-septic. So to wash your areas with it is actually not a bad idea.
Sadly this still happens in the world. Women are trafficked and treated just like this… as well as in countries like India they have brothels which keep the women in perpetual debt that they can never pay off. Yes there are sex workers who choose that work and who live very well off lives in the western world and who are kept safe from disease and pregnancy by access to birth control and modern medicine… but sadly this isn’t the case for many women even today.
@@lemongrabloids3103 Even in the western world, the "choice" of prostitutation and the sefety that goes with it is clearly not the majority. Ans it's way worse for these women in so many parts of the world... I offen wonder what I can actually do about it. I am privileged to never have lived that but I talked to many surviors of prositution and it's even worse when you can see the other person's emotions. I just wanted to hug them and tell them it was going to be okay. But it was not, most are traumatised for life.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So subsistence farming would not be considered a profession. So I would say trader is likely to be an older profession than farming. But prostitution is probably older.
Why have prostitutes always been treated so very badly ? It just seems to me that the treatment is simply one more example of once again the abuse and scourage of the body because of the fear and conflict in the mind, - and the completely perplexing behavior of the human which always results from this. People sure punish the hell out of both themselves and each- other because of the 'why' of things. It's the 'mind's' reaction and response of the 'what-do-I-do' to their body's 'this-is-what-I-want' It is really both very sad and just that simple in my opinion. 'Prostitution' has always been - and it will always be. Just admit it and stop making life any harder than it 'needs'😐 to be. I swear, if I were back in school, - I would rather do a thousand-and-one papers on anything under (and including) the sun - rather than a single-one on 'why-do-people-behave-the way-they-do'.
girl what do you think a prostituted woman's job even is? does "being raped by random men" sound like nice treatment to you? their "job" has always been disrespect and torture in itself. no shit they were badly treated, it was literally their job description.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So if these hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners, and so on didn't sell their goods for profit, then they would not be considered professions. If you feel that just being a hunter is a profession, then I would say that being a wife is the same as being a prostitute. And that still makes prostitution the oldest profession.
Decades ago I knew a woman who knew a woman who was one, who told her that some clients fell in love with her and her other prosi friends. The men would reportedly do much for them. Free decorating, plumbing, shopping, drive them around. Apparently the one she knew wasn't even pretty, either. I guess there are some very lonely men out there.
@Boston Anthony No point other than there must be a lot of lonely men out there. Few would choose to fall in love with a prostitute. As for not deserving to be loved, don't try to ascribe words to me that I never said nor implied. A lot of prostitutes are forced and many are reportedly underage.
You have to be a female there's no way your male. The ratio of lonely, depressed, utterly hopeless men in comparison to women Who are without or unable to get a partner is like another world there is none. There are countless men who feel so thoroughly, brutally rejected sexually by women. That ANY women will do if they can experience sex and the touch of a woman willingly. Even a dirty street prostitute and can fall in love. As it might even be their first real sexual experience.Or they may see this walkers as more human than the rest of society. It's sad and disgusting falling in love with such a woman. But women who aren't lonely and have options often choose worse.
Clergy back then completely missed the point of the original sin. It wasn't all because of Eve a woman. It is about how Adam and Eve refused to take responsibility for their disobediance and instead blamed another. So God equally punished all parties: The Snake The Devil that poessesed the Snake Eve Adam So by quickly shifting the blame on women they are repeating the same sin that got Humanity in this mess in the first place. Plus their outright refusal to condem real Mortal Sins and just picking and choosing whatever suits them.
Thank you for showing so much respect to sex workers. Park Avenue or park bench, people are people are people. Edit: I don't think it was empowering ffs. I'm just grateful that MM didn't giggle and snicker about them. He spoke about them as people deserving of dignity and respect, and I deeply appreciate that.
What? Have you actually seen the video? "Sex workers"?? Either you didn't understand anything or you think being raped on a daily basis is "empowering".
@Stravaig thank you. Certainly it was not empowering. I'm just glad he didn't giggle and snicker about their station and their reality. He treated them like people, and I deeply appreciate that.
I suppose their reasoning was a husband discreetly visiting a lady of the night spent his pent-up energy and prevented him from lusting over his next door neighbour, something along those lines.
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@@bellj753 I guess at that time, the church (who were after all the authority on the matter) said that going to a prostitute was NOT adultery. Maybe because of the idea that a prostitute "belonged to all men". Anyway, I found it more interesting that they advocated prostitution in order to prevent masturbation. It is after all important to choose the lesser of two evils.
I can't imagine how disgusting it must have been for them seeing as how most only washed a couple times a year if that, I don't even want to imagine the smell they must've had to endure.
So would periwinkle carrot cloves and wine work in modern day? Or was the miscarriage likely a coincidence and actually due to a natural cause like malnutrition or something? It just seems wild to me that a pretty simple and accessible (at least today) concoction could simulate an abortion when in modern day we pay doctors for expensive synthetic drugs.
During the Roman times, there was a herb from the Levant called Silphium that was so popular as an abortifacient that it was actually driven extinct. The only "disadvantage" with it, was that it could easily cause massive bleeding, death, and sterilization. There are many herbs that have been used as abortifacients. And in the 1800s, I believe strychnine was very popular. The reason why these are not so common anymore, is because modern medicine is less likely to kill you.
Back in 76/77, I came across an excellent history of Halifax, NS, an all season seawater port with many brothels. One chapter focused on the subject with a focus on one establishmens 'Out-Houses'. Among the finds were many bottles, coins etc . . . and the remains of (?) new-born babes. Seems business was business in those days . . .
I remember reading about a city(?) where there was a monastery for monks, and a monastery for nuns just next to each other. And a secret corridor had been excavated between them. And under the floor of that corridor, archaeologists had found many remains of new-born babies.
That awkward moment when late medieval German authorities did more to punish those abusive creeps than many modern jurisdictions do today to similar pimps and abusers.
Modern authorities focus on rehabilitation, not so much punishment. What's the quote? You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its criminals. Something like that. Violent/humiliating retributive justice isn't an effective deterrent anyway. Throwing rotten cabbages at criminals in the stocks, or cutting their hearts out and rubbing it in their faces as they died, had a negligible effect on crime rates. Violent crime was common during the medieval era. Youre much safer in the modern Western world than people were in the 1400's. In almost every way imaginable.
Lol so they say I bet it’s always been terrible
Why is the moment awkward?
@@answerman9933 Because allegedly women were seen as second class citizens and had no rights then, and yet today’s supposedly forward thinking societies fail to protect them from the most obvious abuse
Lol, wait until you hear about Kentler experiment in 1960's Germany...
There was a saying about syphilis in England: One night with Venus, a lifetime with Mercury.
That a quote from “the Alienist”
Monkey pox is just syphilis. It has all the same symptoms both the hideous visuals and the internal necrotizing. It is absolutely been analyzed and found to be nearly identical uuhuuuhpuuuhuu
The very first case of a person infected with an STD was transmitted from a monkey. Oh wait...What? Wait...huh? Never mind.
Yes. The "English disease".
Unfortunately, as horrendous as it already is, STDs still harm babies. I knew a girl in high school in the late aughts who wore the thickest coke bottle glasses I’ve still ever seen. They were so thick and magnified it made her eyes appear smaller. Well one day in class, bc no one dared to ask, she admitted that her father caught gonorrhea while her mother was already pregnant with her. The mother had no idea & during birth gonorrhea got all in her eyes. I felt privileged she trusted us but it really pissed me off how others would treat her. It had before but knowing the truth added another layer of unfairness. She unfortunately had to live with the sins of her father literally affecting her life every single day.
On our school, in a parallel class, there was a girl who was blind in one eye. That was because her mother had contracted rubella during pregnancy.
STDs of the eyes lolz that’s funny, she got it in her eye!!! Father story is bs.
@@WhiteSeaLeviathan You are clueless
@@KingdomDumb no I’m cluemore
no child gets to choose her PARENTS!
Strange how the clergy always blamed the women not the men and I can guarantee many of the clergy were customers.
Yup
The clergy made consumption of prostitution into a competitive sport
They were equally blame though. They were up in them bawdy houses selling their jellies after all.
@@Garbeaux. if there were not any buyers then they would not be selling. There were very few jobs for women yet they were supposed to survive. If the clergy had been so Christian then they would have made sure women that had no men or family had a way to provide for themselves without having to sell their bodies.
@@Garbeaux. also did you forget the fact that most of them were sold to brothels by their families?
Amazing that prostitutes were “deceitful” when it was obvious what they were selling, in a time when marriages were arranged, yet wives were to “love” an unknown, often brutal spouse.
In the name of Christ.
It’s all Fd up 🤢😔.
That’s a man’s evil not God.
everything ever happened is happened in the name of this fckng god i just hate these thiests supidity who believe in somethin like that@@rekkoha-dk1nh
I mean it's like OF meatbags.
They're abusing men's desire for female interaction.
Kinda scummy if you ask me.
Oh well
Man life sucked back then. But if you were a single woman with few options to survive in a cruel world, life extra sucked. I really can’t fathom how men and women back then were able to get through their daily lives. I know I wouldn’t last very long.
I’d still go back and visit if I had a Time Machine tbh jus to see what it was like
I often question how I’m here because of the past and how generations before me had to survive but then in 500 years time people might be saying the same about this generation.
Those two had essentially enslaved those women. They deserve their punishments
My heart breaks for these women. Being forced to sell yourself (kidnapped, sold by your own family, on threat of torture and death), being forced to go through the agony of abortion, being forced to continue being raped directly after almost dying, being beaten because the men who couldn't control themselves complained that the woman who was forced wasn't "lively"...
Times really haven't changed in this regard. And it's infuriating that so many men still make excuses and blame us for their evil actions. Just take a look at this comment section to see this attitude. The fact that marital rape has been acknowledged and criminalized only in the past couple decades (in western countries)... we need to do much better at treating women as human beings worthy of basic decency and respect.
kek yeah instead of beeing beaten and tortured into prostitution women now have to deal with the monstrosities of mansplaining and the things alike 😂😂
Still happens around the world every single day. Men and indeed the world hasn’t changed in that regard
It still goes on today, Russian mafia kidnap women for the sex trade. Its just hidden from everyday sight.
Please don't blame All of us... there are men that truly love, adore and cherish and respect women
@crazytrain216 Where do you think your safe life comes from? Men. Men protect your life and your rights as soldiers, law enforcement etc. Even your right to vote was because Men made it so. Don't ever think women did that. They did not. Also the right to vote for men still comes withe the legal REQUIREMENT to register for selective service for the draft. Women have zero requirements to vote.
The anti syphilis hammer to the groin might at least reduce the spread
What a tragic story. Poor Els and other women who were so horribly abused. Informative video but a tough listen😢
They still are. Sex trafficking is a huge problem. Nothing has changed. Women are exploited, used, abused and often killed bey men for men. It is all so sad how much we are still the prey to men's lust and the victims of their violence at the same time. All our lives we have to be on the lookout for men who want us harm. Fortunately there are good men out there.
Just like the USA Today. Takes away women’s rights. 😤
@@dingo1666 I agree with you in some aspects (third world countries women are still treated badly, certain religions still see women as second class citizens if a citizen at all, I remember last year when Afghanistan was taken over by the Taliban again and seeing videos of women crying because they were going to lose all of their rights again, sex trafficking, in Africa women's bodies being purposely deformed because rape is so prevalent, prostitutes still being treated like the scum of the earth, societal pressure to get married have kids always look beautiful and be kind, etc) but not in others- for the most part us women have it a million times better nowadays then women used to have it like we're not even in the same universe as Els, the other women who worked in that brothel or women period over the last 600+ years, we have rights our women ancestors couldn't even dream of (and women who dared to go against that in history have always been called "She Wolves" or "Whores" despite men at the time doing the same exact thing) and some bad men don't make that null and void 🤷🏻♀️ We still have issues no doubt it ain't perfect but saying nothing has changed and that we still have it as bad as our women ancestors did is disrespectful to them IMO.
@@dingo1666 sex trafficking doesn’t only happen to women.
@@noblestsavage1742 Context. See video, read my reply with the video in mind.
So female prostitutes were seen as incredibly sinful but men’s “sexual urges” that were the reason the prostitutes had business/purpose in the first place was completely forgiven. 🎶Tale as Old as Time…🎶
Yuppp
And nothing has changed, so very sad.
Every chick writing this same dumb comment
ah yes the ol' "boys will be boys" claus
In medieval times they had this sort of “hydraulic” theory of men’s sexual desire. Prostitution was thought to be a necessity to prevent widespread sexual abuse of girls and women , and homosexual sex. Of course, prostitution does that very thing-it systematizes abuse of girls, women and young boys. Really wrong headed thinking
found your channel about two days ago, i’ve been binge watching all of the videos now. these videos provide such detail on very basic topics. i love it. instead of just going from one main point to another it gives real experiences.
I just found this too! I'm learning a lot, like when it burns to pee, smash it with a hammer 🤣🤣
Same
Ditto. No idea why it popped up or how I found it, but it's the only thing I've listened to this weekend.
You made an interesting statement; that most of the girls were sold to brothels by their own families. In any age, among any people, a strong family is paramount. Without it----- May God help you.
It is also easy to imagine what the future profession for the daughters of prostitutes would be.
As usual, your presentation and dry British wit both inform and amuse us about a niche of history not usually spoken of. Thank you.
Poor Els. I can only imagine how crushed she must have been, as well as sick from the drink she had to take. May her memory be a blessing.
I don’t think being a sex worker has ever been a safe occupation ever/
In Germany prostitution is legal. That means (amongst other things) that the workers can go to the police if they are attacked. It is treated as any other assault case. The moment prostitution is legalised, the workers are far more protected and have legal rights. My opinion is it should be legalised all over the world for the sake of the workers.
@@juneroberts5305 So you are now using poor workers as an excuse for your own sin and "goodbeing"? Even a 5 yrs old could easily spot your true tendencies.
Sweety, its not only dangerous its extremely immoral too.
@@_Minos Troll. 🤦🏻♀️.
@@juneroberts5305 But ofcourse, whenever someone speaks truth its labeled as a troll 🙄
It’s crazy to me how this investigation of the medieval ages feels more through and respectable than what I think I would get today provided that I found myself in this situation…🥺
These horrific descriptions of Human ignorance, greed, depravity and violence through the ages points to the fact that Human's evolution is yet fragmentary and PROTOTYPICAL at best!
Your videos just keep getting better and more polished. I'm so excited to watch your channel grow and see what other topics you're going to tackle :)
Your research if "off the hook" , I totally appreciate your effort and work!
Gotta love how downplayed all the dirty things archeologists find all over. I love that you dont have any aversion to these great (and exceedingly human) pasts
Oldest profession is electrician, read the bible, it starts with: AND THERE WAS LIGHT...
Love your channel, great job as always
D
Bible I fictionally troubled
Amen and based. 🙏
Lol
what 💀
Sun doesn’t run on electricity dipshit, nice try tho lol
Another well put together history. It does really suck women have to this type of work to make ends meet. Being along time ago to now.
Very sad how people spent their short lives on this Earth. Sadder still that many continue down the same path or worse even today. May God have mercy on them all.
Who are you to judge..
You are not god. You don't get to judge women that were sold against their will. You are a false prophet and false prophets do not go to heaven.
Are you going to do a "Halloween" episode during the medieval times? Love your videos!!
Sounds like a good video
Sex Workers are still people - I dig that you were respectful to these poor ladies.
Says the one who calls herself FatTitsFatStacks😂😂😂😂😂
Noone should ever have to be a prostitute....and still to this day....in Europe....it's still considered a Viable career.....
I agree...I respect Sex Workers as human beings, but to sell sex is not empowering or safe.
And most continue to view it as a necessary evil that one doesn't discuss - just like our forebears.
@@sakkra93 It's not a necessary evil, it's an abomination.
@@TristanWintleSays who? Oh, the Bible? Ok then, so it's just the irrelevant opinions of random humans who lived thousands of years ago. Got it.
And it's not a viable career in this country
WHAT!!!
A hammer to the boys does NOT work!???!!?
My doctor has been lying to me!
Look how many subscribers you got already!!! So proud of you! I LOVE 💕 this channel!
Great video, thank you. Can you imagine how much those brothels would’ve stank. Omg 😳
Right gross wtf
Another belter👌🏻 I've been subbed about a month now and I must admit, you never fail to impress, entertain and above all, educate me 🙂 So thank YOU, catch you on Friday✌🏻
Excellent and well put together as always! I look forward to this every week.
Absolutely fascinating. More of these videos please!
Amazing video, good sir. Thank you for all of the historically accurate and lesser-known content. Likes and subscribes all around!
Love the music when talking about the brothels
I got scared away, having heard this song way too many times. Renaissance Festival worker.
I found it to be titillating
Great work! Really enjoying how these are put together.
well done as always! thanks for all the time and effort you put in :)
Wow, what a horrible life and horrible brothel owners.
I love this channel. I love learning about this time and history. You should start another channel about colonial life in the 13 colonies- but other places too. You could call it “colonial chaos”
9:28 great shelf pieces for the office!
Very interesting topic. Nothing you said surprises me. And we thought it was still a man’s world today. I can’t imagine how brutal their lives must have been.
The problem with it is that so much of it was and reportedly is by force 😭😖
"Money is evil, give it to us!"
"Let us practice evil, so that our brethren may be spared of it!"
"god loves you unconditionally, unless you break these 10 random rules, in which case you will rot in hell for all of eternity"
- the church
I love your channel. This video is great.
The men under the covers in that one illustration were most certainly running a train under those covers.
Fr fr
The last part of your video was especially great, a lot of people wouldn't have pointed out that their lives mattered.
What I've learned from research and many sources from around the internet is how surprisingly progressive the treatment of women was by the establishment in medieval societies. Going back as far as pre-rome, women were afforded modern rights. Whether that be possession of their children or even pregnancy leave on the odd occasion a woman was in work. Great video by the way, I'm unsure why you haven't as many subscribers as one would think you deserve. Best of luck concerning the future of your channel.
yeah, what a life, everything a gal can dream of!
Being sexually exploited is not progressive.
@@jigsawchan5364 We've progressed so much that we can now whine about the past as if it were present day context. The complaint is so dumb at this point. But...everyone needs a hobby :|
@@jigsawchan5364 😂
@@woociferaww I'm so sorry, you're right, us women should stop complaining, we have so much already... I'm so so sorry sir. 😞 a woman like me should know to be eternally grateful for whatever crumbs men give us
Sad and disturbing to see how little has changed for women and sex workers. As lately as the 1800s in the New York City prostitution was almost as big a business as ship building. The women saw little of that money. Today the element of shame allows pimps to take the money but it does something else. In the past and today the customers walk away, having done exactly what the woman did, yet face no shame and no penalty. This is no accident. Women have to be one down so they will never reveal and never be believed if they do, the identities of the men and what acts have been perpetrated. Most of Epstein's pals will never be charged, let alone punished. No progress in hundreds of years... medicine, science, agriculture, transportation, housing...everything has changed, except this.
Sure it’s changed. Now the whores can have an Only Fans account. No pimps and plenty of simps to send them $.
Lol
Tup
Lots has changed for women .. in western democracies anyway
No shame and no penalty? Really? Do you honestly think men who use prostitutes feel no shame and pay no penalty? Really think about that.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!
Hey, I think I saw my best friend's great-great-great-grandmother in there.
You answer the questions I always wondered about!
Could you cover some stories of medieval serial killers like Peter niers and such ?
I would recommend "Well I never" for great historical true crime stories!
You did a good job on this. Thank you.
Horrifying. Why is it so often that the people who are needed the most are the ones who are the most marginalized, abused, and left to suffer and die?
"needed"😂
Never heard someone say "Is anyone in the room a hooker?"😂
@shaka994 because prostitution is abusive and cruel in it's core? Because nobody would agree to be raped 20 times a day by strangers?
@@vladaburlakova1529
It's not rape if you choose to do it with your consent
Thank you for making these! I enjoy watching then everyday on my way to work
God syphilis must've been a nightmare back then
It’s still a nightmare 😱
not with antibiotics.@@ImSavedByGracetoo
Interesting tale and well told! Thank you.
Old piss is sterile, so unlike many things that wasn't really that bad to clean with it. They used to use it for a variety of reasons, and the Romans used it for washing clothes. (Its great for getting grease out.) And vinegar is a good anti-septic. So to wash your areas with it is actually not a bad idea.
OLD piss is most certainly NOT sterile.
FRESH piss is sterile.
Very interesting. Thanks for the video
Do a video on Gilles De Rais
(Also I’ll help you out with some of the research if you want it)
The album on De Rais from Cradle of Filth is amazing!! That guy was crazy!
Fantastic episode ❤
This was a difficult video to watch. We've come a long way
Sadly this still happens in the world. Women are trafficked and treated just like this… as well as in countries like India they have brothels which keep the women in perpetual debt that they can never pay off. Yes there are sex workers who choose that work and who live very well off lives in the western world and who are kept safe from disease and pregnancy by access to birth control and modern medicine… but sadly this isn’t the case for many women even today.
@@lemongrabloids3103 Even in the western world, the "choice" of prostitutation and the sefety that goes with it is clearly not the majority. Ans it's way worse for these women in so many parts of the world...
I offen wonder what I can actually do about it. I am privileged to never have lived that but I talked to many surviors of prositution and it's even worse when you can see the other person's emotions. I just wanted to hug them and tell them it was going to be okay. But it was not, most are traumatised for life.
Great video. Informative and entertaining!
In England syphilis was called the Spanish disease.
It is always called after the country that at that time, was most hated. So you have the French Disease, the Italian Disease, etc. 😅
Now it’s called Brexit
Love your videos. There all so interesting. Keep them coming. ❤👍❤
As the Les Nessman character observed on the U.S. TV series, "WKRP in Cincinnati," the world's oldest profession is farming. 😄
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit". So subsistence farming would not be considered a profession.
So I would say trader is likely to be an older profession than farming. But prostitution is probably older.
Antibiotics are awesome. Can’t help but think about that while listening.
Lionheart enslaved these women in horrid conditions. If anyone deserves eternal hellfire, it's him.
MedievalMadness: VERY INTERESTING & INFORMATIVE video!
Why have prostitutes always been treated so very badly ? It just seems to me that the treatment is simply one more example of once again the abuse and scourage of the body because of the fear and conflict in the mind, - and the completely perplexing behavior of the human which always results from this. People sure punish the hell out of both themselves and each- other because of the 'why' of things. It's the 'mind's' reaction and response of the 'what-do-I-do' to their body's 'this-is-what-I-want' It is really both very sad and just that simple in my opinion.
'Prostitution' has always been - and it will always be. Just admit it and stop making life any harder than it 'needs'😐 to be.
I swear, if I were back in school, - I would rather do a thousand-and-one papers on anything under (and including) the sun - rather than a single-one on 'why-do-people-behave-the
way-they-do'.
girl what do you think a prostituted woman's job even is? does "being raped by random men" sound like nice treatment to you? their "job" has always been disrespect and torture in itself. no shit they were badly treated, it was literally their job description.
Enjoyed this very much. Thank you :)
I thought the oldest profession was gardening?
Outstanding work subscribed
"The oldest profession"... what about the hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners?
Yeah.. technically almost every profession has existed since the beginning of time.
people call it "the oldest profession" in order to defend the existence of an industry that profits from rape.
I think something is only considered a "profession" if you sell something for money. After all, the word "profession" obviously comes from the same root as "profit".
So if these hunters, fishermen, farmers, tanners, and so on didn't sell their goods for profit, then they would not be considered professions.
If you feel that just being a hunter is a profession, then I would say that being a wife is the same as being a prostitute. And that still makes prostitution the oldest profession.
Very informative! Thank you!
This sure triggered the “sex work is work” crowd huh?
Awesome outtro.. thumbs up...love this channell
‘Get thee to a nunnery’
Hamlet, by Wm. Shakespeare
My new favorite page ❤️
Decades ago I knew a woman who knew a woman who was one, who told her that some clients fell in love with her and her other prosi friends. The men would reportedly do much for them. Free decorating, plumbing, shopping, drive them around. Apparently the one she knew wasn't even pretty, either. I guess there are some very lonely men out there.
@Boston Anthony No point other than there must be a lot of lonely men out there. Few would choose to fall in love with a prostitute.
As for not deserving to be loved, don't try to ascribe words to me that I never said nor implied. A lot of prostitutes are forced and many are reportedly underage.
You have to be a female there's no way your male. The ratio of lonely, depressed, utterly hopeless men in comparison to women Who are without or unable to get a partner is like another world there is none. There are countless men who feel so thoroughly, brutally rejected sexually by women. That ANY women will do if they can experience sex and the touch of a woman willingly. Even a dirty street prostitute and can fall in love. As it might even be their first real sexual experience.Or they may see this walkers as more human than the rest of society. It's sad and disgusting falling in love with such a woman. But women who aren't lonely and have options often choose worse.
I get your point...most of us will show sympathy for them but hardly do anything...society still hasn't changed and I agree
@Boston Anthony they deserve to be loved no doubt...but we would show sympathy rather than emotion
@Boston Anthony loved by many men gives them a choice. A man that would take care of them and love them. Makes them ugly on the inside and outside.
Love your attitude ❣️
Your work needs way more views!
I would love a video about the Babylonia records of prostitution
Loved your sign off
I just love all this horny old artwork my Victorian culture thought I shouldn't see. Thanks, keep it up!
I think I saw an ankle there.omg so sexy.👍👍👍
This was great!
Excellent video.
Clergy back then completely missed the point of the original sin.
It wasn't all because of Eve a woman.
It is about how Adam and Eve refused to take responsibility for their disobediance and instead blamed another. So God equally punished all parties:
The Snake
The Devil that poessesed the Snake
Eve
Adam
So by quickly shifting the blame on women they are repeating the same sin that got Humanity in this mess in the first place.
Plus their outright refusal to condem real Mortal Sins and just picking and choosing whatever suits them.
Thanks again
Thank you for showing so much respect to sex workers. Park Avenue or park bench, people are people are people.
Edit: I don't think it was empowering ffs. I'm just grateful that MM didn't giggle and snicker about them. He spoke about them as people deserving of dignity and respect, and I deeply appreciate that.
What? Have you actually seen the video? "Sex workers"?? Either you didn't understand anything or you think being raped on a daily basis is "empowering".
@@ripluigi 24/7 victim
@Stravaig sex work doesn't exist. Sexual exploitation is not a fucking job.
@Stravaig thank you. Certainly it was not empowering. I'm just glad he didn't giggle and snicker about their station and their reality. He treated them like people, and I deeply appreciate that.
@@ripluigi Errm, you do know that there are many consenting SWs, right..
great channel!
I suppose the brothel keepers went to heaven and the prostitutes went to hell.
I think the idea would have been that the prostitutes went to hell, and the "procurers" laughed all the way to the bank.
sick world how the hell did humanity survive into the 20th century
Our kids will ask the same frok us😅
2:30 The church believed prostitution prevented adultery. WTAF....
I suppose their reasoning was a husband discreetly visiting a lady of the night spent his pent-up energy and prevented him from lusting over his next door neighbour, something along those lines.
@@sakkra93 Right... but you realize going to a prostitute while you're married, is a ADULTERY?
They condone what they were trying to avoid.
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@@bellj753 I guess at that time, the church (who were after all the authority on the matter) said that going to a prostitute was NOT adultery. Maybe because of the idea that a prostitute "belonged to all men".
Anyway, I found it more interesting that they advocated prostitution in order to prevent masturbation.
It is after all important to choose the lesser of two evils.
@@Tjalve70
Exactly that's the idea or belief
I can't imagine how disgusting it must have been for them seeing as how most only washed a couple times a year if that, I don't even want to imagine the smell they must've had to endure.
So would periwinkle carrot cloves and wine work in modern day? Or was the miscarriage likely a coincidence and actually due to a natural cause like malnutrition or something? It just seems wild to me that a pretty simple and accessible (at least today) concoction could simulate an abortion when in modern day we pay doctors for expensive synthetic drugs.
* wild carrot
During the Roman times, there was a herb from the Levant called Silphium that was so popular as an abortifacient that it was actually driven extinct.
The only "disadvantage" with it, was that it could easily cause massive bleeding, death, and sterilization.
There are many herbs that have been used as abortifacients. And in the 1800s, I believe strychnine was very popular.
The reason why these are not so common anymore, is because modern medicine is less likely to kill you.
Back in 76/77, I came across an excellent history of Halifax, NS, an all season seawater port with many brothels. One chapter focused on the subject with a focus on one establishmens 'Out-Houses'.
Among the finds were many bottles, coins etc . . . and the remains of (?) new-born babes.
Seems business was business in those days . . .
I remember reading about a city(?) where there was a monastery for monks, and a monastery for nuns just next to each other.
And a secret corridor had been excavated between them. And under the floor of that corridor, archaeologists had found many remains of new-born babies.
Butchery & prostitution the two oldest jobs.
They branded her on her forehead?! Love that for her. 💖
The poor, poor children that were created through these evil acts!!!