BJJ black belt here who cross trains in judo. Judo is WAAAAAAAAY harder to learn than BJJ. The learning curve is STEEP and applying judo in a BJJ setting will take YEARS of practice and experimenting. The reactions you get from BJJ players and wrestlers are totally different than what you’d expect in a judo setting. Have fun and be safe! Chuck is awesome and I need to drop in the next time I am in San Jose to learn from him.
Agreed, im a BJJ purple Judo 2nd Dan and I even had to adapt my Judo a little at first to match the odd reactions I was getting in BJJ, also I generally avoid any throw that lands me in guard... Im looking at you ouchi gari lol
@@ryansmith9138 I'm a third degree BJJ black belt and still working on earning shodan in judo. Its hard as hell and the teenagers/college judokas that have been training since they were kids do not respect their elders! Its VERY humbling to get slammed by 14 year olds who you outweigh by 60 lbs. LOL
@@ryansmith9138I train both, too. BJJ guys sit so far back and are always that nanosecond away from just pulling guard. It makes throwing hard in my experience.
@@ryansmith9138 With BJJ, the reactions are either a lack of reaction ("Why didn't you try to dodge my Ko Uchi Gari or O Soto Gari") which leads to feints being ineffective. Otherwise, its pulling guard the moment they feel your grips. I also wrestle, so often times other wrestlers, particularly folkstyle wrestlers, don't see Ashi Waza coming. I feel that Freestyle guys are exposed to the Judo/Sambo flavored Russian style more readily - and most Greco guys did a stint in the freestyle world at some point, so they don't fall for it quite as easily.
Judo is fun as hell and has so much more naunce than it gets credit for. It may take you awhile to get a feel for how to implement what you learn to bjj, but keep at it! I'm a judo shodan and bjj purple belt practicing since 2013. Still love it. Your movement looks good for just starting!
@@joshbeambjj Much nicer than my dojo in Canada, but I think many of the USA clubs run on a fee model. So its a bit different. Cool to see though. I'd love to come down south and check it out. The Judo community online can be a bit pedantic so you don't see much content online, so thanks again for throwing some out there.
@@gajorg69hey this may sound stupid but i am 18 years old and thinking of trying judo too, but i have fear of forward rolling and falling (since childhood). How do the teachers often handle this?
@@TravellerTinker A good teacher will begin your first few sessions with training just on falling. You should also tell the instructor about the nerves beforehand. You will also practice falling safely every practice and appropriate techniques to keep you safe when falling and landing.
I'm a 28 years old ex bjj blue belt who decides to change bjj to judo 2 months ago and its beeing a humble pie each training. Its funny .. I'm doing martials arts since my early 20 's (Kick boxe, muay thai and bjj) and I always have a vision of judo beeing a easy thing .. well now at this stage I can comfortably say that nothing is tough as Judo. bjj you always have the option of pull guard and advoid takedowns and in striking if you have da dog in you with some technique you can stay safe also and train in your 20's 30's .. but judo bro ... at 28 on a Judo Dojo I know i'm on a rush to get that knowledge and I have not much time to fall with violence. Cheers from Portugal
@@cahallo5964 Thats a semi-true .. you can have a certain rank but if you don't train eventually in practice you don't have that rank anymore .. but that whats not the point with my first comment.. I was just saying that I move from bjj to judo and the the lifetime to practice judo is much shorter and the curve of getting knowlegde is not exponencial like bjj .. and it hurts on your body .. Conclusion Bjj is more recreative and a long term sport .. Judo its just for some years. cheers mate osssssssaaaa
As a 63 year old judoka who has practised off and on for 50 odd years I tried jujitsu last year which I enjoyed but found the transition not as easy as I thought it would be. My judo dan grade was respected and accepted. I guess judo is one of the many schools of jujitsu
Good randori session there. We have a standing joke in my club that in randori it's important to remember it's not about winning (but nobody said anything about the not losing..) BJJ guys are hard to fight standing-up once they get their heads around the gripping and posture - and almost impossible to get the better of on the ground :) Glad you enjoyed it.
Judo shodan and BJJ black belt here. I wanted to state how much respect I have for you to start judo at a later stage of your life. You're young enough to attain your shodan as I started judo at the age of 26. I am now 46 years young lol. Merba Dvalishvili, a black belt judoka and combat sambo world 2nd place medalist just schooled Henry Cejudo, who is a gold medalist in freestyle wrestling. Goes to show Khabib was correct about judo being of higher pedigree. Keep training,
Question, I train BJJ only and have never been in a Judo dojo before. Is the floor the same on both gyms? Is the Judo floor constructed differently or is it simply mats on the floor similar to what I'm used to seeing in my BJJ gym?
That’s so cool to hear. Thanks for your comment, really appreciate that! And much respect to you too for starting when you did and progressing all the way up there. I’m 31, so I’ll prob be pretty old by the time I get any black belt 😂
At the judo gym in the video, the mats are bouncy! It’s very different than a BJJ gym. I’m not clear though how many judo clubs use the really bouncy mats though. I’ve heard in Japan it’s much less common, for example. Maybe a real judoka can chime in here.
@@joshbeambjj I was thinking that it might be a raised floor similar to a WWE wrestling ring, for lack of better description. As in, raised plywood flooring with mats on top that allow for more of a "spring" effect when slammed into it, but lesser so when you're simply walking on it. But that's just me thinking out loud.
Btw, Sensei Chuck is no ordinary judo black belt. He actually is one of the elites and you would never know because of how humble and friendly he is. You did extremely well for a bjj blue belt, and it was impressive that you actually looked like a judoka with your movements and the flow of your randori rounds. Great stuff, great vid!
Every time I talk to him, I get a few more details about his judo story, and every time it’s more and more impressive 😂 Fascinating guy for sure… I was lucky to interview him recently, which I’ll be posting here too soon. And thanks, I can’t believe I managed to actually look like a judoka 😂 Gonna keep working! Thanks for watching 🤙🏻
Congratulations on starting your judo path. Once everything ‘clicks’ you’ll be throwing people with ease. Chuck Jefferson is a rare gem in our community. Had a great podcast for a while. Training seems to be the right balance of getting after it, but still respecting your partner.
Thanks for watching and for the comment! Chuck is fantastic, I actually just sat down and interviewed him, which I’ll be posting as well. And before that he was telling me about his podcast and how he ran the JudoFanatics pod for a while too! Pretty awesome. Do you do judo in the Bay Area too?
@@joshbeambjj no, I’m in Texas. But I’ve listened to every one of his podcasts. I met him once at a tournament. Have done Judo for 25 years, did BJJ up to blue belt, before taking a break due to some injuries. Judo is tough. There is nothing like it.
Awesome video. Cross training is awesome. I coach CSW, Catch Wrestling, BJJ, Sambo and MMA at my school in England. I used to play judo as do a lot of my students. Judo is amazing and extremely tough!
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment! That’s really awesome, so you have experience across all kinds of grappling arts. I really wanna try some more different ones like the ones you mentioned.
Great to see you moving a lot and taking loads of throws! That's what the number one goal should be for beginners in their randori. Seems like a great club.
Thanks! Yeah I think right now I’m really trying to learn how to fall properly so I can gain some confidence and hopefully not worry so much about hurting myself 😂 Thanks for dropping a comment and watching 🤙🏻
For being a BJJ guy, you're making some of the most entertaining Judo videos man, and just wanna say your video production quality is really good, keep it up, subscribed!
Great stuff. It's so important to use that upright posture, partly because this is shared development and you shouldn't be too defensive, but also if ever you are in a real fight you are highly likely to start standing up as someone grabs you or hits you. Your reaction in this upright position is hugely important. God I miss judo but after 30 years my body can't take the falls any more (so I climb, which is lovely).
Thank you! Wow 30 years of judo? That’s pretty awesome. Great point about the shared development, I guess you mean so partners have a chance to enter in for throws on me as well.
@@joshbeambjj yes, it's the standing equivalent of not trying to have an impossible closed guard in BJJ rolling. Both should be done in good natured flow. Good luck with it!
I wish I noticed, but I was so busy being thrown 😂 I need to go back and watch the section again. It’s actually absurd to me how fast he enters. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Kumi kata is an invisible battle for non judokas 😂 I’m into my third year of judo and haven’t even grasped the basics. Once my sensei showed old style judo kumi kata techniques that are banned now, that shows the depth of hidden knowledge in judo.
I would say to do both as you will regret not maintaining in progress when you are ready for BJJ again. If you can do so, train once or a couple of times a week in Judo and keep going to BJJ or reduce a day and go two times a week to BJJ and two times a week to Judo.
@@Thecelestial1 I understand, life is a always there. I just always try to recommend to people that love BJJ not to stop training, because they will always want to come back. However, the road back will be harder and longer than when they left. I would love to start studying Judo (green belt in Judo) again too, but as a Brown Belt (one stripe) in BJJ, I am too close to the goal to change my focus. To compensate, I study and incorporate Judo into my BJJ routines or whenever I teach class.
Lovely Dojo, insightful instructor, good vibe, nice mixture between intensity and flow in randori. 10/10! Would absolutely love to visit Cj Judo when im in the states ❤
I was doing judo at unjversity for over 3 years. Then I moved to another country and I did kick boxing, boxing and muay Thai. Man I still miss judo. I need to find time to get back to it.😢
I'm very lucky we focus on stand up throws in our Jiu Jitsu gym. I mostly train gi and our coach makes us even participate in Judo tournaments from time to time. Pulling off these throws can be quite difficult, more physically demanding than sweeps and submissions in my opinion, but super rewarding. Judo's great.
i remember when i was teen orange/green belt judo, i always tried to throw this black browns ;d... now im on other side, and im soo happy when i see good grips nice ,sweeps, foot work from lower belts and i fly for them so they can gain more confidence, :) i dont want too hurt them or show who is boss, im on the way with them and we all goin same direction
I started at a BJJ gym, which has Judo classes every Friday (not very good at either), and Judo is great fun. Even though during randori, I'm usually the one getting thrown, it has sort of an exhilarating feeling to it. It is a great workout! I have a couple of throws that I feel somewhat confident in, even though I have to practice them a lot more. I hope the sport grows more in the US
Well done mate, Judo is incredibly hard. I train Judo 3-4 days a week with an Olympian that runs an MMA gym and I also cross train jiu jitsu. I've experienced 2 kneecap dislocations doing Judo and have badly jarred 2 fingers and smashed a shoulder, or two. Keep at it, and I can attest you will see your BJJ improve drastically.
Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo. And BJJ ground techniques are far more involved and complex than judo Newaza is now. BJJ now isn’t even the same as BJJ 20 years ago the techniques have evolved so much. Also the majority of BJJ takedowns used now are wrestling based using leg attacks - again against the rules in judo. They’ve diverged.
@@Neutronb0mb "Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo." ... no, that's a load of crap, you must have it confused with jutaijutsu, and those are forbidden in ANY grappling sport, whether it be judo, bjj, sambo, wrestling, you name it
great video, i see more and more of judo and BJJ comparing the arts. I really enjoyed your video. I remember my first day at a judo school, it was absolutely cool. We had a grat training and randori, really hard workout. Today i had my first turnament, boy was it killer ! Judo is crazy ! I got a bronze medal in open weight class ! And i got a record for the day, 4.5 seconds for and ippon.. I hope you will take what you can from judo and add it to your training :D
I do both (1 stripe white belt and green belt) and I must say I really like stand up game as much as ground one. When we spar at BJJ class guys just fear to fight standing... Even in no-gi. I believe BJJ should train more stand up game. I think old judo it is a system now broken into to. Olympic judo and BJJ. Sport aspect took away some of the practical application but still very useful and complementary arts.
Congratulations :) hope you really liked it . And this is just a glimpse of judo eheh . USA judo isn’t very developed , I’d happily bring you with me in my travels in strong countries like Japan France etc if you want to :)
Hey, you went to a place not too far from me! And I've seen Chuck at tournaments where his students compete. Nice video and respect for going out to try judo. Also at 7:30 No one should EVER do that. If Josh would have sat down on the knee of that kid's posted leg, it could have been a severe injury to the knee. Do a Tani Otoshi or a Ko Soto Gake; not something in between.
Oh nice! What school if you don’t mind me asking? Thanks for watching and for the comment! Oh Tori’s far leg? I’m too much of a noob to have noticed that myself, but now that you point it out, it does look precarious…
You know a lot of throws for someone claiming to train pure BJJ :D This club seems like it has a really positive vibe. The way the black belts were just going with the throws, that is how you are actually supposed to do randori, but many clubs randori is basically no different than comp.
Lol thanks, it comes from self-study plus a handful of BJJ training partners who have helped me with judo before. I’ve always loved judo but never started classes until now. Yeah the vibe at CJ Judo is fantastic, and the black belts were really letting me work, it was great. Sucks that some clubs out there aren’t like that!
@@joshbeambjjankle, shoulder, knee rugby injuries compounded and basically I was too fat and kept rolling my ankles 😂 I've since lost weight and started goju ryu karate - it's a bit more controlled. The thing that frightens me about grappling sports is that you could pop your knee or shoulder in a training session. I can't risk my job for that.
I've done newaza at our local judo club (I"m also a BJJ blue belt but have a old youth judo experience) and I give their black belts problems on the ground. Doesn't go quite as well standing up! Throwing people who don't want to be thrown and know how to resist it, is really bloody hard. I really like and respect judo but I'm too for it. It hurts even though the club has an amazing mat - canvas over thick specialist judo foam over a custom built sprung wooden floor. I just cannot take being repeated dropped onto the floor.
I’m about to turn 50. Crash mats are key to practice throws. Sprung floor is ideal for randori but not many places have that. My gym is mats on cement.
Nuce. I sure wish I could do this.I should have done it many years ago, but I was a karate guy. Now I am 60 and studying BJJ, but I have a replaced knee and another one with arthritis and I am too broken up to do this. Sad!
When they go for those hip throws and your arm is pulled across your body, simple drop your elbow down to the small of their back as its pulled and it will check the throw (if they are fast, they will then just flip around into ouchi or kouchi_
How long you been doing judo now? You look awesome in randori - you're wearing a white belt but from your throws look like you could be green or even blue!
Oh wow thanks! Hmmmm I think I’ve done like maybe 4 or 5 official judo classes? My count could be off. Most of what little I know from before comes from self-study as a part of my BJJ training, and asking some judo friends for help.
Awesome video. Thank you for trying to expose Judo to people. I teach Judo at a BJJ/MMA gym and its quite hard to grow the program. I have around 20 people that come to my classes only for Judo (my students) but non of the academy students that do BJJ or MMA don't come at all. Like 0 respect for the art and sport. Imagine you have a chance to fully learn stand up and ground and you don't take advantage of that. I don't get it.
Thanks for watching! Of course, judo is phenomenal. Ah man - with it being so convenient to access at the same school, I would think more BJJ/MMA people who take advantage of that for their game.
It looks like the instructor, Professor Chuck Jefferson, is left handed? Or at least competes as a lefty? I only notice because I am right handed, but like to grip left foot forward, left hand on collar, and every time i do my training partner will mostly be caught off guard and takes a while to figure out how to drill.
I'm learning judo but it scaaares me. I'm genuinely terrified of being thrown. Has anyone got any recommendations on how to get over this? I'm guessing you'll suggest, 'keep getting thrown'? Aha.
The first thing everyone learns is probably how to fall safely. Tuck your chin, slap the mats with your arm, land on the back, don't cross your legs, all that. You're probably train breakfalls on your first day a lot to prevent any injuries and have these moves in your muscle memory. Most of the moves in Judo can be done lightly, and when training, it's encouraged to support your partners on their way down, not to drop 'em like a sack of potatoes. Just try to enjoy getting thrown in the beginning. It's gonna be pretty light at first, and when it gets harder later, you'll be used to it.
clapping the mat real hard is the key, you may not clap the right way and get hurt but it will boost your morale and confident sky rock that you forget about your pain and your fear and slowly makes you a stronger person and trust me by just doing that in 1 or 2 months, falling wont scare you anymore. But if it's hurt so much, here is no shame to take a break , but remember NEVER give up, come back when you feel well and keep doing what you doing until you got what you want.
A lot of places wouldn't be happy to see white belts doing ura nage (or wouldn't allow it) as it's such a big throw (definitely one of the more dangerous ones) - chance of nasty screw up with white belt much higher. At many UK (I'm British) clubs the "done thing" is to just pick someone up with ura nage to show that you had it but not to complete the slam. Throw is otherwise trained on crash mats. Maybe different in the US given the number of people who have wrestled? Anyway, great video showing a really healthy give-and-take randori atmosphere with the emphasis on attacking lots and not acting like it's shiai. All the best for your Judo journey!
for all the what a fun session compliments being given to the instructor here i wondered the same thing. in fact, i’d have made sure white belts work only with the higher skilled players. it’s hard to learn from someone who knows little to nothing about something, yet quite easy to develop bad and dangerous habits. that ounce of prevention is worth more than any pound of cure. learn the hard way or learn the easy way, but there will be plenty of mistakes to learn from with such pairings.
Much respect but imo (and Steve Scott freestyle Judo) there is Newaza in Judo and if that is not trained they are only trading 1/2 the art, the original idea of Ippon would be a throw that ends the fight(KO) if it’s not a big impact throw then the fight/spar should continue on the ground (at least for 20 seconds) for a submission attempt… Yardin Gerbi for example had one of the coolest submissions in Judo competition… too cool for Judo so they made it illegal
@@joshbeambjj i get thrown ones and my shoulder or joints pop out of place of i get big ass bumps in my arms is just better for me to stay away from judo ngl😭
Curious why doesn’t the Randori include at least 20 - 30 seconds of ground time after hitting the mat( at least on a non ippon takedown?) … see Gerbi Choke in other comments
not entirely sure! After taking a few more classes at CJ Judo, we have done some newaza, but I haven't been to enough sessions yet to know how it's typically formatted. I'm gonna ask Chuck next time! I assume he formats every session a certain way for a reason.
@@joshbeambjj cool I did post links of Newwaza submission in Judo comp, Gerbi the most famous of all . curious if yo show them Gerbi winning the world championship , what they think of it?
because it is dangerous for several people practicing tachi-waza while there are others in newaza.... tripping over those on the ground, throwing people into other people who are lying down, etc...
@@ricardokerscher ok but if the rules allow (20 seconds or whatever for a submission) and your not practicing it , then wouldn't you be at a disadvantage to those who do .... like Gerbi, her transition to the submission was brilliant and flawless, bet she practiced that over and over ... ok you'll probably y favorite was a outlier but sill one of my favorite subs of all time (Judo, BJJ or MMA, MMA would be Bert Johns Calf Slicer that was a thing of beauty , the way he counted the single leg with a calf slicer)
Hey Josh, on one of your shorts you were getting thrown left right and center by a few of the girls in your class. Could you upload the whole video of those? Unless you were co-operating they must have manoevered you in a good position for them, easily allowing them to break your balance and then throw you without using much force. I wanted to see how those girls did that because I suspect it was through kumi kata but you didn't realise. Or you were co-operating in which case then mystery solved and no need to see
Hey! Which video was it? I think you may have been talking about a giant open mat with a lot of people, at an event center (not CJ Judo). Does that sound right?
@@joshbeambjj not every randori, but once in a while there will be newaza well at least in my place. That's why not many judoka possess good ground game. I've been training judo for more than 8 years and I can say maybe I have the newaza skill of a late white belt or early blue belt in BJJ.
I really liked the video but we need to move on from just sport judo. I don't see no ground game at all. We need to move from 90% stand up and only 10% ground. We need to train 50% standing and 50% ground. Make sure to to do no gi judo. Also, bring back old judo, me and my friends now do only freestyle judo. Bought back the sambo and wrestling back into judo what it suppose to be. We train gi and no gi Classes. We keep the training 50% stand up and 50% ground fighting. When we fighting its all about finishing submissions only and get back up a start over with your partner we adapted this from the bjj fighters when they do there sparring. Everyone tells us they love freestyle judo training and how we adapted the sparring rounds exactly like bjj sparring. Give it try guys, open a class at your school for freestyle judo trust me it will benefit your fighters to.
The problem with judo today is that it has become too much of a sport, and not enough of the complete martial art it was. Old school judo covered a lot of ground work. Just as we can still see it today in the Waseda University kosen judo style. At the time of the foundation of judo, the style used to be nothing more than a syncretization of all the jujutsu styles present in Japan at the time. P. S. Did you know that original judo had a section of atemi waza that covered all types of strikes? Mostly coming from the old jujutsu and yawara combat methods.
When I see people doing throws really really fast, I always question if they are compensating for their lack of kuzushi. Explosive and yank really hard. No, that's not correct.
Kuzushi -> the destruction of balance/state of being unbalanced - better kuzushi allows you to throw faster/more efficiently than poor kuzushi. Not to mention a vast majority of throws on the IJF circuit are done explosively - im just gonna assume you really dont know what youre talking about, you dont compete, and i hope you arent out there claiming to teach judo.
@@jimmychris4069 The fact that you went out and looked up a definition from somewhere tells me a lot about your Neanderthalic level of understanding of kuzushi. Plus, you should always cite your source. Mainstream Judo "circuits" have no clue about kuzushi either. Kuzushi can be a lifelong study in and of itself, but that doesn't jive for competitors. They need something that works for them fast in the small realm of practitioners they deal with, so they ignore actually learning the subtleties of kuzushi altogether....yanking on a person works when that person has the same understanding. Thanks for playing though...your ideology is directly related to the poor quality of judo out there today.
@@ronin2167you bring up a fair point I’ve heard from longer term practioners . Kano himself always emphasized the efficiency of judo and some competitors don’t necessarily have better understanding of Kuzushi. In BJJ it is actually similar some competitors have an amazing A game and their real talent is from forcing that game on others. A competition blue belt can beat a purple belt in competition . Yet their understanding or even proficiency in techniques could show a gap between the two.
@@Urmomma5f4t Competition has it's disadvantages. I've had people yank on me and try to throw me a ton of times and they get frustrated after awhile, always asking "Why" they can't throw me. It falls to their lack of kuzushi. I got irritated at a visiting younger practitioner for trying to drop seoi nage on me 3 times in a role. I said, next time I'll just choke you out. You're not getting kuzushi. He gave up on that throw. I totally understand it....if something fails, our initial reaction is to yank harder. That's just not how it goes. Correct Judo has a more subtle manner to it. The Ju means gentle. LOL
@ronin2167 I didn't need to look up the definition I gave you. 2. Anyone can say anything, you don't post any videos of randori so who cares what you think, loser. 3. You will get thrown by anyone on the IJF circuit.
my shoulder's fucked after landing badly off a sumi gaeshi so i'm going to binge vids like these as a pseudo comfort food who knew you could get an injury off of sumi gaeshi of all things anyways these foot sweeps look so nice, it's like magic, uke just falls over it's great. these guys must have insane timing to be able to just pull it off like that.
Oh damn, sorry to hear about your shoulder. I know how tough it can be to be on the sidelines. Glad I could make a cool vid for you though! Thanks for watching. Yeah, the foot sweeps are insane. I love the drills we do walking up and down the mat to get the timing right.
BJJ black belt here who cross trains in judo. Judo is WAAAAAAAAY harder to learn than BJJ. The learning curve is STEEP and applying judo in a BJJ setting will take YEARS of practice and experimenting. The reactions you get from BJJ players and wrestlers are totally different than what you’d expect in a judo setting. Have fun and be safe! Chuck is awesome and I need to drop in the next time I am in San Jose to learn from him.
Agreed, im a BJJ purple Judo 2nd Dan and I even had to adapt my Judo a little at first to match the odd reactions I was getting in BJJ, also I generally avoid any throw that lands me in guard... Im looking at you ouchi gari lol
@@ryansmith9138 I'm a third degree BJJ black belt and still working on earning shodan in judo. Its hard as hell and the teenagers/college judokas that have been training since they were kids do not respect their elders! Its VERY humbling to get slammed by 14 year olds who you outweigh by 60 lbs. LOL
@@ryansmith9138I train both, too. BJJ guys sit so far back and are always that nanosecond away from just pulling guard. It makes throwing hard in my experience.
@@jasonrose6288 yeah most of them are afraid to engage in throwing aspect. the best way in BJJ is pulling guard.
@@ryansmith9138 With BJJ, the reactions are either a lack of reaction ("Why didn't you try to dodge my Ko Uchi Gari or O Soto Gari") which leads to feints being ineffective. Otherwise, its pulling guard the moment they feel your grips.
I also wrestle, so often times other wrestlers, particularly folkstyle wrestlers, don't see Ashi Waza coming. I feel that Freestyle guys are exposed to the Judo/Sambo flavored Russian style more readily - and most Greco guys did a stint in the freestyle world at some point, so they don't fall for it quite as easily.
Good to see judo finally getting its respect after being dissed by MMA fans for years.
"fans" you mean dumbasses
Man you did phenomenal 🔥. Randori isn’t a competition about winning or losing. It’s about learning with your partner
Thanks a lot for the feedback! Definitely trying to make it a mutual learning experience. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Judo is fun as hell and has so much more naunce than it gets credit for. It may take you awhile to get a feel for how to implement what you learn to bjj, but keep at it! I'm a judo shodan and bjj purple belt practicing since 2013. Still love it. Your movement looks good for just starting!
That’s awesome! Thanks for your comment and for watching 🤙🏻
The instructor and gym atmosphere looked fantastic. Also, fun video!
Thanks for watching! Yeah everything about CJ Judo is awesome. So glad I was introduced to it through a BJJ friend.
Judo is such a great martial art, I'm glad it's getting more attention again!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching
As a judoka that dabbles in bjj and kickboxing i love this content good job. Seems like a very chill club which is great to start learning judo at!
I’m glad you like it, appreciate your comment! Yeah Chuck Jefferson is awesome, really runs a great school.
@@joshbeambjj Much nicer than my dojo in Canada, but I think many of the USA clubs run on a fee model. So its a bit different. Cool to see though. I'd love to come down south and check it out.
The Judo community online can be a bit pedantic so you don't see much content online, so thanks again for throwing some out there.
@@gajorg69hey this may sound stupid but i am 18 years old and thinking of trying judo too, but i have fear of forward rolling and falling (since childhood). How do the teachers often handle this?
@@TravellerTinker A good teacher will begin your first few sessions with training just on falling. You should also tell the instructor about the nerves beforehand. You will also practice falling safely every practice and appropriate techniques to keep you safe when falling and landing.
I'm a 28 years old ex bjj blue belt who decides to change bjj to judo 2 months ago and its beeing a humble pie each training. Its funny .. I'm doing martials arts since my early 20 's (Kick boxe, muay thai and bjj) and I always have a vision of judo beeing a easy thing .. well now at this stage I can comfortably say that nothing is tough as Judo. bjj you always have the option of pull guard and advoid takedowns and in striking if you have da dog in you with some technique you can stay safe also and train in your 20's 30's .. but judo bro ... at 28 on a Judo Dojo I know i'm on a rush to get that knowledge and I have not much time to fall with violence. Cheers from Portugal
You are not an ex blue belt what? You don't lose your rank if you train something else man
@@cahallo5964 Thats a semi-true .. you can have a certain rank but if you don't train eventually in practice you don't have that rank anymore .. but that whats not the point with my first comment.. I was just saying that I move from bjj to judo and the the lifetime to practice judo is much shorter and the curve of getting knowlegde is not exponencial like bjj .. and it hurts on your body .. Conclusion Bjj is more recreative and a long term sport .. Judo its just for some years. cheers mate osssssssaaaa
As a 63 year old judoka who has practised off and on for 50 odd years I tried jujitsu last year which I enjoyed but found the transition not as easy as I thought it would be. My judo dan grade was respected and accepted. I guess judo is one of the many schools of jujitsu
Doing judo for 27 years much respect for you
Good randori session there. We have a standing joke in my club that in randori it's important to remember it's not about winning (but nobody said anything about the not losing..) BJJ guys are hard to fight standing-up once they get their heads around the gripping and posture - and almost impossible to get the better of on the ground :) Glad you enjoyed it.
Lol I’m gonna steal that saying 😂 thanks for watching!
You can tell the gym's culture is good, higher belts let you work and you can see the mutual respect between partners. Great video!
Absolutely, everyone there is very respectful towards each other, I love it. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
Judo shodan and BJJ black belt here. I wanted to state how much respect I have for you to start judo at a later stage of your life. You're young enough to attain your shodan as I started judo at the age of 26. I am now 46 years young lol. Merba Dvalishvili, a black belt judoka and combat sambo world 2nd place medalist just schooled Henry Cejudo, who is a gold medalist in freestyle wrestling. Goes to show Khabib was correct about judo being of higher pedigree. Keep training,
Question, I train BJJ only and have never been in a Judo dojo before. Is the floor the same on both gyms? Is the Judo floor constructed differently or is it simply mats on the floor similar to what I'm used to seeing in my BJJ gym?
That’s so cool to hear. Thanks for your comment, really appreciate that! And much respect to you too for starting when you did and progressing all the way up there. I’m 31, so I’ll prob be pretty old by the time I get any black belt 😂
At the judo gym in the video, the mats are bouncy! It’s very different than a BJJ gym. I’m not clear though how many judo clubs use the really bouncy mats though. I’ve heard in Japan it’s much less common, for example. Maybe a real judoka can chime in here.
@@joshbeambjj I was thinking that it might be a raised floor similar to a WWE wrestling ring, for lack of better description. As in, raised plywood flooring with mats on top that allow for more of a "spring" effect when slammed into it, but lesser so when you're simply walking on it. But that's just me thinking out loud.
@Danlovestrivium ah yeah I know what you’re referring to. I’ll try to remember to ask Chuck next time
Btw, Sensei Chuck is no ordinary judo black belt. He actually is one of the elites and you would never know because of how humble and friendly he is.
You did extremely well for a bjj blue belt, and it was impressive that you actually looked like a judoka with your movements and the flow of your randori rounds. Great stuff, great vid!
Every time I talk to him, I get a few more details about his judo story, and every time it’s more and more impressive 😂 Fascinating guy for sure… I was lucky to interview him recently, which I’ll be posting here too soon.
And thanks, I can’t believe I managed to actually look like a judoka 😂 Gonna keep working! Thanks for watching 🤙🏻
This art form should be taught in every school throughout this country. Such well-rounded disciplined individuals.
Congratulations on starting your judo path. Once everything ‘clicks’ you’ll be throwing people with ease. Chuck Jefferson is a rare gem in our community. Had a great podcast for a while. Training seems to be the right balance of getting after it, but still respecting your partner.
Thanks for watching and for the comment! Chuck is fantastic, I actually just sat down and interviewed him, which I’ll be posting as well. And before that he was telling me about his podcast and how he ran the JudoFanatics pod for a while too! Pretty awesome. Do you do judo in the Bay Area too?
@@joshbeambjj no, I’m in Texas. But I’ve listened to every one of his podcasts. I met him once at a tournament. Have done Judo for 25 years, did BJJ up to blue belt, before taking a break due to some injuries. Judo is tough. There is nothing like it.
Awesome video. Cross training is awesome. I coach CSW, Catch Wrestling, BJJ, Sambo and MMA at my school in England. I used to play judo as do a lot of my students. Judo is amazing and extremely tough!
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment! That’s really awesome, so you have experience across all kinds of grappling arts. I really wanna try some more different ones like the ones you mentioned.
What a cool instructor!
Yeah Chuck is awesome! Thanks for watching
Respect. Great work.
Thank you!
Such a beautiful Sport!
It really is!
Great to see you moving a lot and taking loads of throws! That's what the number one goal should be for beginners in their randori. Seems like a great club.
Thanks! Yeah I think right now I’m really trying to learn how to fall properly so I can gain some confidence and hopefully not worry so much about hurting myself 😂
Thanks for dropping a comment and watching 🤙🏻
Just by staying upright and taking falls you are doing more things correct than most in randori. Good job! The teachers techniques were clean!
thank you!
For being a BJJ guy, you're making some of the most entertaining Judo videos man, and just wanna say your video production quality is really good, keep it up, subscribed!
Great stuff. It's so important to use that upright posture, partly because this is shared development and you shouldn't be too defensive, but also if ever you are in a real fight you are highly likely to start standing up as someone grabs you or hits you. Your reaction in this upright position is hugely important. God I miss judo but after 30 years my body can't take the falls any more (so I climb, which is lovely).
Thank you! Wow 30 years of judo? That’s pretty awesome. Great point about the shared development, I guess you mean so partners have a chance to enter in for throws on me as well.
@@joshbeambjj yes, it's the standing equivalent of not trying to have an impossible closed guard in BJJ rolling. Both should be done in good natured flow. Good luck with it!
My number 1 tip here would be to stop looking down and to commit more to your throws and flow around the opponent instead of resisting them
Did no one else notice that Chuck seems ambidextrous? Hit two nice uchi matas from both left and right sides.
A black belt should know how to throw from both sides
I wish I noticed, but I was so busy being thrown 😂 I need to go back and watch the section again. It’s actually absurd to me how fast he enters.
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Kumi kata is an invisible battle for non judokas 😂 I’m into my third year of judo and haven’t even grasped the basics. Once my sensei showed old style judo kumi kata techniques that are banned now, that shows the depth of hidden knowledge in judo.
TIL the japanese name for grip fighting! lol. Oh there are banned kumi kata techniques? I never would've guessed
That drop seoi nage was heat
I've been thinking about taking a break from bjj and going to judo as my stand up game has always been lacking. Excited to see your perspective.
Oh nice! That could definitely be fun - so far it is for me! Thanks for watching!
I would say to do both as you will regret not maintaining in progress when you are ready for BJJ again. If you can do so, train once or a couple of times a week in Judo and keep going to BJJ or reduce a day and go two times a week to BJJ and two times a week to Judo.
@@mouthguardcomic My time and financial resources won't permit that regrettably.
@@Thecelestial1 I understand, life is a always there. I just always try to recommend to people that love BJJ not to stop training, because they will always want to come back. However, the road back will be harder and longer than when they left. I would love to start studying Judo (green belt in Judo) again too, but as a Brown Belt (one stripe) in BJJ, I am too close to the goal to change my focus. To compensate, I study and incorporate Judo into my BJJ routines or whenever I teach class.
Lovely Dojo, insightful instructor, good vibe, nice mixture between intensity and flow in randori. 10/10!
Would absolutely love to visit Cj Judo when im in the states ❤
Crosstraining is life. If you can, do it as long as you can. Wrestling, judo, bjj, chidaoba, bohk.... It's grappling!
Absolutely! I wanna try to do some wrestling next! Thanks for watching
hands down the most beautiful martial art
Black belt you are doing randori with at around 06:00 is amazing training partner.
I was doing judo at unjversity for over 3 years. Then I moved to another country and I did kick boxing, boxing and muay Thai.
Man I still miss judo. I need to find time to get back to it.😢
Do it!
I'm very lucky we focus on stand up throws in our Jiu Jitsu gym. I mostly train gi and our coach makes us even participate in Judo tournaments from time to time. Pulling off these throws can be quite difficult, more physically demanding than sweeps and submissions in my opinion, but super rewarding. Judo's great.
that's great to hear. where do you train at?
Judo looks amazing
It’s so fun! Thanks for watching
Coach must emphasizes foot sweep practice a lot. Those de ashi were great at every level belt.
I wish I had the eye to discern the level of foot sweeps, but I can say I was getting hit with quite a bit 😂
i remember when i was teen orange/green belt judo, i always tried to throw this black browns ;d... now im on other side, and im soo happy when i see good grips nice ,sweeps, foot work from lower belts and i fly for them so they can gain more confidence, :) i dont want too hurt them or show who is boss, im on the way with them and we all goin same direction
I started at a BJJ gym, which has Judo classes every Friday (not very good at either), and Judo is great fun. Even though during randori, I'm usually the one getting thrown, it has sort of an exhilarating feeling to it. It is a great workout! I have a couple of throws that I feel somewhat confident in, even though I have to practice them a lot more. I hope the sport grows more in the US
yeah, "exhilarating" is definitely the right word for it! thanks for watching
Looks fun!
Suuuuper fun, I highly recommend it to everyone lol especially BJJ people
Well done mate, Judo is incredibly hard. I train Judo 3-4 days a week with an Olympian that runs an MMA gym and I also cross train jiu jitsu. I've experienced 2 kneecap dislocations doing Judo and have badly jarred 2 fingers and smashed a shoulder, or two. Keep at it, and I can attest you will see your BJJ improve drastically.
BJJ + Judo = Unstoppable
Chuck is not your average black belt in Judo he was a top teir competitor.
i feel very lucky to have connected with him and the school!
You look super comfortable with the Georgian grip o-goshi. Keep up the good work. 👍
Thanks! Oh nice, good feedback, maybe I should keep working that one. Thanks for watching!
Lol BJJ is literally Judo without the throws and most of the stand up it’s wild to see people not realize that
I totally agree. What do you get if a judoka spends 90% of his time doing newaza? It's amazing people don't get that.
Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo. And BJJ ground techniques are far more involved and complex than judo Newaza is now. BJJ now isn’t even the same as BJJ 20 years ago the techniques have evolved so much. Also the majority of BJJ takedowns used now are wrestling based using leg attacks - again against the rules in judo. They’ve diverged.
Football is basketball without arms.
@@Neutronb0mb "Except half the techniques in BJJ would be illegal in judo." ... no, that's a load of crap, you must have it confused with jutaijutsu, and those are forbidden in ANY grappling sport, whether it be judo, bjj, sambo, wrestling, you name it
@@YvesKeller mma is gladiator fighting without actual lethal weapons ... basically pussy gladiators
Great video!
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
A well times Uchi-Mata will leave you regretting your life choices.
Can confirm. I am now questioning my life choices.
Great video. Keep it up
Hey thank you! Glad you liked it
great video, i see more and more of judo and BJJ comparing the arts. I really enjoyed your video.
I remember my first day at a judo school, it was absolutely cool. We had a grat training and randori, really hard workout.
Today i had my first turnament, boy was it killer ! Judo is crazy !
I got a bronze medal in open weight class ! And i got a record for the day, 4.5 seconds for and ippon..
I hope you will take what you can from judo and add it to your training :D
BJJ: I want to get on the ground
Judo: OK
Judo +bjj = happiness 😊
I do both (1 stripe white belt and green belt) and I must say I really like stand up game as much as ground one. When we spar at BJJ class guys just fear to fight standing... Even in no-gi. I believe BJJ should train more stand up game. I think old judo it is a system now broken into to. Olympic judo and BJJ. Sport aspect took away some of the practical application but still very useful and complementary arts.
Congratulations :) hope you really liked it .
And this is just a glimpse of judo eheh . USA judo isn’t very developed , I’d happily bring you with me in my travels in strong countries like Japan France etc if you want to :)
Oh that’d be amazing! I was a Jiu Jitsu nomad in 2023, I see you’re a judo nomad, that’s awesome!
Hey, you went to a place not too far from me! And I've seen Chuck at tournaments where his students compete. Nice video and respect for going out to try judo.
Also at 7:30
No one should EVER do that. If Josh would have sat down on the knee of that kid's posted leg, it could have been a severe injury to the knee. Do a Tani Otoshi or a Ko Soto Gake; not something in between.
Oh nice! What school if you don’t mind me asking? Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Oh Tori’s far leg? I’m too much of a noob to have noticed that myself, but now that you point it out, it does look precarious…
The throw at 3:16 was a bit dangerous. If you cant get your knees in line with theirs you cant safely hip throw
You know a lot of throws for someone claiming to train pure BJJ :D This club seems like it has a really positive vibe. The way the black belts were just going with the throws, that is how you are actually supposed to do randori, but many clubs randori is basically no different than comp.
Lol thanks, it comes from self-study plus a handful of BJJ training partners who have helped me with judo before. I’ve always loved judo but never started classes until now. Yeah the vibe at CJ Judo is fantastic, and the black belts were really letting me work, it was great. Sucks that some clubs out there aren’t like that!
Man I miss judo, I kept getting hurt and just had to stop.
sucks to hear, what types of injuries were they?
@@joshbeambjjankle, shoulder, knee rugby injuries compounded and basically I was too fat and kept rolling my ankles 😂 I've since lost weight and started goju ryu karate - it's a bit more controlled. The thing that frightens me about grappling sports is that you could pop your knee or shoulder in a training session. I can't risk my job for that.
When fighting for grips, aim for the sleeve one first if you are both orthodox.
Thanks for the tip!
It was fun watching you do Judo 😊 What is the songs name that started about 6 minutes in?
I've done newaza at our local judo club (I"m also a BJJ blue belt but have a old youth judo experience) and I give their black belts problems on the ground. Doesn't go quite as well standing up! Throwing people who don't want to be thrown and know how to resist it, is really bloody hard.
I really like and respect judo but I'm too for it. It hurts even though the club has an amazing mat - canvas over thick specialist judo foam over a custom built sprung wooden floor. I just cannot take being repeated dropped onto the floor.
I’m about to turn 50. Crash mats are key to practice throws. Sprung floor is ideal for randori but not many places have that. My gym is mats on cement.
You kind of look like Sensei Seth’s skinnier brother
TBH I always thought me and Sensei Seth could’ve been separated at birth
A good Judo guy will be hard to traw
Nuce. I sure wish I could do this.I should have done it many years ago, but I was a karate guy. Now I am 60 and studying BJJ, but I have a replaced knee and another one with arthritis and I am too broken up to do this. Sad!
Well BJJ is awesome too for sure! Hope you enjoy doing that.
When they go for those hip throws and your arm is pulled across your body, simple drop your elbow down to the small of their back as its pulled and it will check the throw (if they are fast, they will then just flip around into ouchi or kouchi_
That kid slammed the fuck outta you @ 3:05 lmao - someone needs to repeat the speech coach gave, he must've been in restroom or something!
hahaha it was quite the slam 😂 it's okay though, i was there for it! i knew it was coming so i was cooperative with him lifting me
They all do KoSotoGari impressively well. Nice Dojo.
How long you been doing judo now? You look awesome in randori - you're wearing a white belt but from your throws look like you could be green or even blue!
Oh wow thanks! Hmmmm I think I’ve done like maybe 4 or 5 official judo classes? My count could be off. Most of what little I know from before comes from self-study as a part of my BJJ training, and asking some judo friends for help.
Awesome video. Thank you for trying to expose Judo to people. I teach Judo at a BJJ/MMA gym and its quite hard to grow the program. I have around 20 people that come to my classes only for Judo (my students) but non of the academy students that do BJJ or MMA don't come at all. Like 0 respect for the art and sport. Imagine you have a chance to fully learn stand up and ground and you don't take advantage of that. I don't get it.
Thanks for watching! Of course, judo is phenomenal.
Ah man - with it being so convenient to access at the same school, I would think more BJJ/MMA people who take advantage of that for their game.
Judo is hard on the body. I can no longer fall over and over again at 45 years of age.
Oof. How long did you do judo?
@@joshbeambjj kind of 20 years, I guess. But I started at 21. I was already trown at a sea of blackbelts.
It looks like the instructor, Professor Chuck Jefferson, is left handed? Or at least competes as a lefty? I only notice because I am right handed, but like to grip left foot forward, left hand on collar, and every time i do my training partner will mostly be caught off guard and takes a while to figure out how to drill.
JJIF Fighting is nice to try
What’s that?
@@joshbeambjj some sweet mix judo, karate and BJJ.
is that like japanese jiu jitsu?
Los cinturones mayores no están yendo contra el como si fuera un cinturón avanzado por ello se dejan tirar y no van muy agresivos
I'm learning judo but it scaaares me. I'm genuinely terrified of being thrown. Has anyone got any recommendations on how to get over this? I'm guessing you'll suggest, 'keep getting thrown'? Aha.
go watch the mr bean episode of judo lmao
@@MontyQueues That's one I've actually not seen - I shall!
The first thing everyone learns is probably how to fall safely. Tuck your chin, slap the mats with your arm, land on the back, don't cross your legs, all that. You're probably train breakfalls on your first day a lot to prevent any injuries and have these moves in your muscle memory. Most of the moves in Judo can be done lightly, and when training, it's encouraged to support your partners on their way down, not to drop 'em like a sack of potatoes. Just try to enjoy getting thrown in the beginning. It's gonna be pretty light at first, and when it gets harder later, you'll be used to it.
i dont think he's asking "how to break fall"... it's more of some type of mental barrier of going to train in the first place @@thecubeman381
clapping the mat real hard is the key, you may not clap the right way and get hurt but it will boost your morale and confident sky rock that you forget about your pain and your fear and slowly makes you a stronger person and trust me by just doing that in 1 or 2 months, falling wont scare you anymore. But if it's hurt so much, here is no shame to take a break , but remember NEVER give up, come back when you feel well and keep doing what you doing until you got what you want.
Ura nage from white belt to white belt...hmm...
Is that bad?
A lot of places wouldn't be happy to see white belts doing ura nage (or wouldn't allow it) as it's such a big throw (definitely one of the more dangerous ones) - chance of nasty screw up with white belt much higher. At many UK (I'm British) clubs the "done thing" is to just pick someone up with ura nage to show that you had it but not to complete the slam. Throw is otherwise trained on crash mats.
Maybe different in the US given the number of people who have wrestled?
Anyway, great video showing a really healthy give-and-take randori atmosphere with the emphasis on attacking lots and not acting like it's shiai. All the best for your Judo journey!
for all the what a fun session compliments being given to the instructor here i wondered the same thing. in fact, i’d have made sure white belts work only with the higher skilled players. it’s hard to learn from someone who knows little to nothing about something, yet quite easy to develop bad and dangerous habits. that ounce of prevention is worth more than any pound of cure. learn the hard way or learn the easy way, but there will be plenty of mistakes to learn from with such pairings.
@@joshbeambjjyes
Much respect but imo (and Steve Scott freestyle Judo) there is Newaza in Judo and if that is not trained they are only trading 1/2 the art, the original idea of Ippon would be a throw that ends the fight(KO) if it’s not a big impact throw then the fight/spar should continue on the ground (at least for 20 seconds) for a submission attempt… Yardin Gerbi for example had one of the coolest submissions in Judo competition… too cool for Judo so they made it illegal
Judo❤❤
I think I'd be knocked out taking that many falls.
Luckily these mats are super bouncy 😂 I dunno if I could take that on traditional hard mats like we have in BJJ.
@@joshbeambjj I didn't know that was a thing -but I see the bounce from the floor. Do you break fall different?
I really hope those are two inch mats…
bjj blue belt, with blackbelt cauliflowers
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Would love to do judo but im too injury prone im just stick to bjj🙃
What do you mean by injury prone?
@@joshbeambjj i get thrown ones and my shoulder or joints pop out of place of i get big ass bumps in my arms is just better for me to stay away from judo ngl😭
In Judo, why are the called warmups?
Hello! Not sure I understand. As opposed to what?
Curious why doesn’t the Randori include at least 20 - 30 seconds of ground time after hitting the mat( at least on a non ippon takedown?) … see Gerbi Choke in other comments
not entirely sure! After taking a few more classes at CJ Judo, we have done some newaza, but I haven't been to enough sessions yet to know how it's typically formatted. I'm gonna ask Chuck next time! I assume he formats every session a certain way for a reason.
@@joshbeambjj cool I did post links of Newwaza submission in Judo comp, Gerbi the most famous of all . curious if yo show them Gerbi winning the world championship , what they think of it?
@@joshbeambjj I want to know what he thinks of Gerbi winning with Newaza (and the others that have won with submissions)
because it is dangerous for several people practicing tachi-waza while there are others in newaza.... tripping over those on the ground, throwing people into other people who are lying down, etc...
@@ricardokerscher ok but if the rules allow (20 seconds or whatever for a submission) and your not practicing it , then wouldn't you be at a disadvantage to those who do .... like Gerbi, her transition to the submission was brilliant and flawless, bet she practiced that over and over ... ok you'll probably y favorite was a outlier but sill one of my favorite subs of all time (Judo, BJJ or MMA, MMA would be Bert Johns Calf Slicer that was a thing of beauty , the way he counted the single leg with a calf slicer)
Hey Josh, on one of your shorts you were getting thrown left right and center by a few of the girls in your class. Could you upload the whole video of those? Unless you were co-operating they must have manoevered you in a good position for them, easily allowing them to break your balance and then throw you without using much force. I wanted to see how those girls did that because I suspect it was through kumi kata but you didn't realise. Or you were co-operating in which case then mystery solved and no need to see
Hey! Which video was it? I think you may have been talking about a giant open mat with a lot of people, at an event center (not CJ Judo). Does that sound right?
BJJ good ground but not standing
No newaza?
I guess not, is it standard to do in randori?
@@joshbeambjj not every randori, but once in a while there will be newaza well at least in my place. That's why not many judoka possess good ground game. I've been training judo for more than 8 years and I can say maybe I have the newaza skill of a late white belt or early blue belt in BJJ.
@@joshbeambjjstandard in competition, yes
Basic wrestling is Judo kryptonite.
Is it cuz of the ability to shoot for the legs in wrestling?
why?
AS a first session as a newbie, they should be learning technique and not doing randori, that comes later
I would not f-k with a judo guy in general. It takes one mistake for them to end your mobility and joints.
What a gentle school...
Is this sarcasm? Lol. Genuine question because it’s the first and only judo school I’ve ever been to, so I have nothing to compare it to.
I really liked the video but we need to move on from just sport judo. I don't see no ground game at all. We need to move from 90% stand up and only 10% ground. We need to train 50% standing and 50% ground. Make sure to to do no gi judo. Also, bring back old judo, me and my friends now do only freestyle judo. Bought back the sambo and wrestling back into judo what it suppose to be. We train gi and no gi Classes. We keep the training 50% stand up and 50% ground fighting. When we fighting its all about finishing submissions only and get back up a start over with your partner we adapted this from the bjj fighters when they do there sparring. Everyone tells us they love freestyle judo training and how we adapted the sparring rounds exactly like bjj sparring. Give it try guys, open a class at your school for freestyle judo trust me it will benefit your fighters to.
That sounds dope. What’s the big difference then between what you’re describing, and BJJ? Just no guard pulling essentially? Or something else too?
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Kkkkk onde vamos parar? Inicisnte que NÃO sabe nem fazer um rolamento fazendo video! 😂😂😂
Judo
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They actively give up their backs though. Again, this proves to me that BJJ alone and Judo alone is not the answer.
The problem with judo today is that it has become too much of a sport, and not enough of the complete martial art it was. Old school judo covered a lot of ground work. Just as we can still see it today in the Waseda University kosen judo style.
At the time of the foundation of judo, the style used to be nothing more than a syncretization of all the jujutsu styles present in Japan at the time.
P. S. Did you know that original judo had a section of atemi waza that covered all types of strikes? Mostly coming from the old jujutsu and yawara combat methods.
When I see people doing throws really really fast, I always question if they are compensating for their lack of kuzushi. Explosive and yank really hard. No, that's not correct.
Kuzushi -> the destruction of balance/state of being unbalanced - better kuzushi allows you to throw faster/more efficiently than poor kuzushi.
Not to mention a vast majority of throws on the IJF circuit are done explosively - im just gonna assume you really dont know what youre talking about, you dont compete, and i hope you arent out there claiming to teach judo.
@@jimmychris4069 The fact that you went out and looked up a definition from somewhere tells me a lot about your Neanderthalic level of understanding of kuzushi. Plus, you should always cite your source. Mainstream Judo "circuits" have no clue about kuzushi either. Kuzushi can be a lifelong study in and of itself, but that doesn't jive for competitors. They need something that works for them fast in the small realm of practitioners they deal with, so they ignore actually learning the subtleties of kuzushi altogether....yanking on a person works when that person has the same understanding. Thanks for playing though...your ideology is directly related to the poor quality of judo out there today.
@@ronin2167you bring up a fair point I’ve heard from longer term practioners . Kano himself always emphasized the efficiency of judo and some competitors don’t necessarily have better understanding of Kuzushi. In BJJ it is actually similar some competitors have an amazing A game and their real talent is from forcing that game on others. A competition blue belt can beat a purple belt in competition . Yet their understanding or even proficiency in techniques could show a gap between the two.
@@Urmomma5f4t Competition has it's disadvantages. I've had people yank on me and try to throw me a ton of times and they get frustrated after awhile, always asking "Why" they can't throw me. It falls to their lack of kuzushi. I got irritated at a visiting younger practitioner for trying to drop seoi nage on me 3 times in a role. I said, next time I'll just choke you out. You're not getting kuzushi. He gave up on that throw. I totally understand it....if something fails, our initial reaction is to yank harder. That's just not how it goes. Correct Judo has a more subtle manner to it. The Ju means gentle. LOL
@ronin2167 I didn't need to look up the definition I gave you.
2. Anyone can say anything, you don't post any videos of randori so who cares what you think, loser.
3. You will get thrown by anyone on the IJF circuit.
I would eat humble pie for 4 years
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Great Video!
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and dropping a comment. I’ll be posting many more!
my shoulder's fucked after landing badly off a sumi gaeshi so i'm going to binge vids like these as a pseudo comfort food
who knew you could get an injury off of sumi gaeshi of all things
anyways these foot sweeps look so nice, it's like magic, uke just falls over it's great. these guys must have insane timing to be able to just pull it off like that.
Oh damn, sorry to hear about your shoulder. I know how tough it can be to be on the sidelines. Glad I could make a cool vid for you though! Thanks for watching.
Yeah, the foot sweeps are insane. I love the drills we do walking up and down the mat to get the timing right.
I'm in exactly the same boat as you at the moment. Dislocated my shoulder last Friday from being on the receiving end of a hard double leg
It is super rare to injure your shoulder off of a Sumi gaeshi.
I do both now , judo is really hard but its art . BJJ is really enjoyable
Having done a lot of judo, karate, jiu jitsu....judo is the most fun, the most strenuous , and the real deal.