It was something like an income though. But it doesn't justify tithing as a commanded church rule. If they have that as an arrangement to have funds for operating their ministry is is however OK.
Abraham took the spoils of war and it became his income. He tithed from that. Benny Hinn is not the only one to preach this!! I've heard scores of others say the same. I tithe!
@@marklucero2524 I worked in a Jewish synagogues for many years. In 70 AD General Titus of Rome destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem which ended the provision of tithing. Since then the Jewish synagogues charge a fee for membership rather than tithing which is unlawful without the Temple and the Levites. Shalom 🕎
@@marklucero2524 Indeed he isn't. But it's superficial to use that as an argument for tithing. It's not 'wrong as such', but if one makes that a legalist requirement than there is and will be problems with this. Just to give you the idea there. Adam and the Israelites tithed (or were obliged to). Jesus gave his live. 100%. And voluntarily.
I agree with what you say. It's amazing how these pro-tithing disciples take scripture out of context and build a faulty doctrine. Talking about disciples, the NT disciples never practiced tithing and that is our standard. I think it is facetious for any preacher to try and use Heb 7 & 8 to endorse tithing to a church organization.
Since when is Benny Hinn the deciding factor for tithing? Malachi 3: 8Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. 9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. 11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts. 12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts. 13 Your words have been stout against me, saith
@@perrymiller1098tithing was instituted under the law.. do you also agree with obeying all of the laws , 613 to be exact? Today we are the Church as each individual and then corporately . Today we are not under the bondage of the law and can give cheerfully as not a works .. but as a process of gratitude and can give wherever we see a need around us..
It's interesting how some ministers of God can take a chapter like Hebrews 7 which is talking about the change of the priesthood to make a person believe it is talking about tithing.
Abraham also offered animal sacrifices before the law, we don't as NT believers. Thanks Caleb for your explanation on this subject. Blessed by your content. God bless.
You're descriptive context of Scripture easily refutes these "tithe-or-lose" hawkers that have been repeating the same lies over and over again to line their silky pockets. In the church I go to, they don't have lengthy giving sermons, but rather, at the end of service they basically say "give what you'd like to give, here's where you can give it, enjoy the rest of your day." Boom, done. The pastor tithes, however, but he doesn't beat congregants over the head for not tithing like my old pastor did.
That was a great point about Abraham and circumcision..nobody would argue that we still need to be circumcised today just because he was, so it’s ridiculous to say that we should still tithe today, just because he tithed. And he is only on record as tithing that ONE time!
@@iThinkBiblicallyLet's assume that Abraham gave tenth before the law though not, bt let them answer,, did Abraham belong to the new Covenant?? Not matter who gave when before or after the law, the truth is the church of christ belongs to the new covenant an they gave as a responsibility, unconditionally, according to individual's capability an cheerfully. Introduction of the book of malachi 1 :1 it's clear that God was speaking to the children of Israel thro prophet malachi not to gentiles neither church of christ. In malachi 3 :6 - 12 it's still God speaking to descendants of Jacob same Israelites thro prophet malachi not to gentiles neither church of christ.
Yes giving to those in need is giving to Jesus. Notice when Jesus tells us about the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left, he never says that the sheep tithed and goats didn’t! He tells us one gave to those in need, and the other did not.
Points well taken. Agree. Later on in that same book the scripture says that we "enter the most holy place with "confidence" by the blood of Christ. The New Covenant basis by which we can approach God with confidence,& even boldness according to the Apostle Paul. We are "justified" by God's grace to us in Christ the scripture teaches us, and repeatedly warned by the Apostle Paul against trying to be "justified by the law."
Giving a free will offering to furthering the work of God, whether that’s supporting missionaries, printing bibles and tracts, helping the persecuted church, widows, orphans and the poor will be blessed by God. Giving to Benny Hinn and his ilk will never be blessed. 🙏
Paul said to Titus, to avoid foolish questions, and geanoligies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. { Titus 3:9 }
in the torah, we are commanded to give to widows and orphans every few years. funny how no-one teaches the torah in church circles, accept the parts about tithing. even Paul said that the law IS (not was) good, and IS profitable, both spiritually and physically. the church tells us its done away, and will persecute anyone even speaking about it. really not what the bible teaches us.
i can see that you are one of those believers who are not studied in the bible. the torah itself is based around faith in God and also speaks of the Messiah (Yehoshua). although observing the commandments themselves cannot save your soul, they are still good and carry many blessings in this life. many Christians spoil their witness about Christ by OPPOSING God's laws, which cause the divisions we observe today, and do not speak well of the so called salvation they claim to have. @@jcwindevillose
Thank you so much brother Caleb for the simple but profoundly liberating gospel truth. NOWHERE does Jesus command us to tithe, NOWHERE do the disciples/the apostles teach us to tithe. But modern churches, esp. megachurches teach...
One correction is in Gen 15:6, he was still Abram and we read: “Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.” Abram was “saved”, (counted as righteous), prior to being renamed Abraham.
I agree with your view on tithing and think that it is something that Christian's should not try to practice today. Especially, in the way that it is taught in the modern age. Thank you for sharing this information and exposing the corruption behind the pastors who endorse this false teaching to take financial advantage of their church. On a side note, I would love at some point to hear more of what you think about Melchizedek. I find it interesting that Melchizedek brought out bread and wine when He blessed Abram and that His priesthood is one that is eternal. He is also described as the king of righteousness and the king of peace and the scriptures describe Christ as being a priest according to the order of Melchizedek. These are just a few points. If you do not think that this could be the Christ, I would be interested to know who you think Melchizedek is.
Tithing should never be a requirement, but if you think “Christians should not try” to give 10% (or more), you are mistaken. Scripture is clear we should give generously.
@@aisaacp thanks for your reply. I never claimed that Christians should not give, neither did I state how much they should. There is a difference between paying a tithe and giving an offering and my comment focuses on the aspect of tithing only.
@@Resoundinglyavergage Amen, great to hear. Because of the abuse of tithing in many churches, many Christians have turned away from giving all together. I was just making sure you didn’t believe so 👍🏽
@@aisaacp I understand where you are coming from, a lot of people make the assumption that paying tithes and giving offerings are the same thing. I would actually be interested to know more about your view on giving generously. You said that the scripture is clear on this. Do you mind sharing the scriptures that are clear and what you understand?
My pastor believes in the tithe, but it’s one that I totally disagree with. Besides, Abraham was a rich man and could have easily given money, if it was about money. I like that you brought up we’re to give to those in need, and that the pastor is just a priest like other believers. Great job, Caleb. Thank you, brother 🙏
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2Peter 2.3
I've tithed as an act of obedience for more than 30 years now. God has blessed and increased me. I believe it's a big mistake not to tithe. God builds his church through His faithful! I've never been part of a church ministry on the receiving end of wherever the tithe goes.
@marklucero2524: if you give following your heart, it is fine, sure God blessed you! But it is not a command to tithe. I am not tithing (because it is old testament law, it never was money, it was produce) But I am a cheerful giver as the Holy Spirit prompts me to give. For example, when my church had a renovation of about $ 50 k, I gave $ 30 k which was about half of my net-income.
God bless you because you are in His grace John 1.17 Romans 3.24 To tithed is a law indifferent to what Abraham has done - Malachi 4.4 - Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Please, i remind you that at the time the Malachi was written, it wasn't - chapters and verses. Don't see a separate chapter 3, from chapter 4. Now Galatians 4.4 : Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Romans 10.4 : For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Hello there. God bless you for your honest work. I would like to mention a verse from the chapter you read about Malki-Tsedek (note that I don’t about tithing at all). Here it is : “8 Moreover, in the case of the cohanim, the tenth is received by men who die; while in the case of Malki-Tzedek, it is received by someone who is testified to be still alive.” Here, in context, and after I’ve been on your comprehension side, I see Paul establishing that Yeshua and the king of Salem are the same being. Would you please tell what you think about this ? I’m reading from the CJB version by the way. ✌🏼
Definitely agreed on the tithing arguments. But Melchizedek had no father, no mother, no genealogy, no beginning of days. Especially the last two are divine attributes. In my mind he can be nothing else but theophany. The person in the furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego was also like the Son of God and is widely accepted to be Jesus.
@@ws775 well theophany is always of God since Θεός-Theos is "God" and φάνει(α) is "to appear". The Son of God had not yet come to earth but there was theophany aplenty in the Bible beforehand anyway. So who was the one appearing? There are three persons in the Trinity and only one of them has been seen. Βy elimination we know who it was. The Father hasn't. The Holy Spirit hasn't except as a dove. The only one that has appeared in human form is the Word/Jesus.
Yes I am not tithe from my income, but I tithe from God's blessing, I have nothing on my own, but all are God's blessings. All are God's blessings. All belongs to God , therefore I give tithe because of his blessings.
Abraham's tithe to Melchizidek was the Kings tithe. Samuel explained the practice when Israel sinned by wanting a king. 1 Samuel 8:15 ►He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.... It isn't a Law, it was custom to acknowledge a king...
Is Tyler Perry getting rid of his Gulfstream III.....I mean Copeland got a smokin' deal from him previously. Sounds like a good Christian man....helpin' the chosen run to and fro as their knowledge increases
So are taxes a Tithe to the King = Government??? Is the 10% that some churches require is that considered a membership Fee/Tax to participate in services and events there? I ask because some churches only consider you a member if you Tithe!!!
This issue is one that I struggle with both sides of this argument. It's like the issue of "the rapture". There's one side for pre rapture and another against it. There's strong biblical evidence to support both points of view. So, you never know for sure. I think some things the Lord wants to remain ambiguous. If we knew everything, then we'd be God wouldn't wr? I do know that the Lords work needs support, but I don't necessarily want to be manipulated or coerced into "actions". If we love the Lord, we will be willing to do everything we can to please Him, but that's different than sone wolf trying to make "merchandise" of me or anyone else. I would like to be on the safe side. So, I lean on the safe side.
This is smart. Seedtime and harvest will not be done away with. Unless a grain of wheat goes into the ground and dies it remains alone. If we got to McDonald’s we don’t say ya no I won’t pay here I’ll Pay and Burger King. Peoples arguments that it doesn’t say in the Bible it was income 😂, there goats they were slaughtering was their income. Time talent and treasure is what we have, we work our sweat into the ground to get it. We will gladly give McDonald’s our last 5 bucks and throw no fit, but we can’t support our local body to make moves that God places on our pastor’s heart because they only want our money 😆! Ok but the world doesn’t 👌🏻. My pastor could take my tithe and go behind the church and burn it. I do not care. I give because I want to give of my lifeblood back to what Christ had given for me, I made 70 k this last year tithes and offerings were 13k and I don’t feel a ounce of regret.
Good word. Abraham (Abram at the time) gave away all of the spoils of war, not just 10% of them, and there's no biblical evidence he ever "tithed" again. His honorarium to Melchizedek was likely driven primarily by the custom of the land at the time. There's no biblical evidence his submission was required by God.
Jesus is without father and without mother and without length of days. The Alpha and Omega. The King of Righteousness and Prince of Peace and Priest Forever. And in Revelation it says Jesus is Like unto the Son of Man. And in Daniel it says Like unto the Son of God. It is the same as saying Son of Man. It is His Title. Revelation 1 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one Like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is Like the Son of God. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. Hebrews 7 20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever... Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful Hebrews 7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful
Abraham was even rich for God had blessed him,and therefore Abraham didn't give to be blessed.Even those who teach that God tests man to see our faithfulness, God tested Abraham with Isaac offering,not money
Great teaching my brother . Can you do me a favor? On your next video could you illustrate how that Jesus was not a descendant of the Aaronic Priesthood and explain the difference it probably will bring your viewers into a better understanding of tithing Today under the New Covenant God bless 🙌 🙏
Giving to the church is not for the priest or preacher to buy a new car or a mansion or a rolex. Is for the maintenance of the building and for the people in need. Even Paul had a normal job for his income. This guy can get a job at Wal-Mart and live modesty.
I agree a pastor should never spend the money he receives from ministry on luxuries. But in most cases if you are pastoring a church you should not have another job. Your obligation is for the people, and rightly dividing the word of truth. A pastor should be paid for his efforts just as any other job would. See 1 Corinthians 9. 1 Corinthians 9:14 [14] In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
@@aisaacp I think this verse is about not being a hypocrite. If you want people to live by the gospel you have to be the example. The gospel should be given freely. If what you are saying is true then pastors should not get married and have children. Their congregation should be more important than their daughter's ballet performances at school or your son's baseball game.
@@LuisVazquez-hx3bk did you actually study 1 Corinthians 9? Paul is clearly advocating for those in ministry to be paid. 1 Corinthians 9:7 [7] Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk? He goes on in verse 12 saying that he doesn’t make use of his right to be paid, because he doesn’t want the church of Corinth to think he is only doing ministry for the money. Nor does he want anyone else to abuse that right. But that doesn’t change the fact that those who labor for the gospel deserve to the right to make their living through the gospel. It doesn’t mean they deserve to get wealthy from the gospel, but it means they deserve to have their basic financial needs met. It is my opinion that a pastor’s income should be similar to the average income of those in his church community around him. Do you really think a pastor can do his job well if he has to spend 40+ hours a week doing another job? Often times ministry requires working 50-60 hours a week. In order to pastor/lead well, it is best they don’t have to split their time between two jobs.
Covenant Theology is a cafeteria style Christianity where pastors pick and choose what parts of the old law they wish; contrary to Christ saying the law cannot be broken and Paul that if you accept circumcision as law, you're bound by the whole Mosaic code. This was kept by the Reformers because it supports Christendom and a state sponsored Church. It is contrary to the Law of Christ which specifically says giving should be voluntary.
In the Bible, Abraham gives a tenth of his possessions to Melchizedek as a tithe. This is described in Genesis 14:20. He repealed gave that's not there but Abraham gave...
Judas, an original apostle hung himself......perhaps some of these "self- appointed apostles" may feel they should follow his example and "go and do thou likewise!" Whoops, did I really say that!
I have ZERO trust in rich men and women preaching while they live in mansions, fly in private jets and drive in limos and an expensive Mercedes Benz. Christ Savior had no home, no riches and borrowed a donkey when he rode into Jerusalem on what we now observe as Palm Sunday. However, the return of Christ King will be a different story. Make your home right in Him.
Good morning from U.S. Bro Caleb! It's sad you have to keep on making these types of videos but I guess it's needed you never know who'll come across them. I think a lot of these "Preachers/Pastors" just don't understand the Bible and they pass their misunderstandings to the church members. It happens all the time.
If I'm not mistaken, tithes and offerings, was instituted for sacrifice in the temple, for the forgiveness of sins. Tithes and offerings was instituted before the law, because sins needed to be forgiven before the law, and ordering up sacrifices was the only way in the old testament to be forgiven.
Great teaching again brother Caleb! What's your take on Proverbs 3. 9-10 ? Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. This does seem like a biblical principle that could apply to both Old and New Testaments
The most comprehensive passage on first fruits is Deuteronomy 26. Especially look at verses 1-4. First fruits was a handbasket of food taken to a festival and blessed by the priest. But the offeror gets it back and consumes it with his family and he invites the Levites, the poor and the foreigner to join him.
@@iThinkBiblically Thanks brother Caleb - I didn't make the connexion. However the passage in Proverbs 3 is in the context of general statements of wisdom. So it would be stretching it a bit to say that this relates to the law of Moses. John MacArthur's commentary indicates it is a general principle.
Jesse Duplantis has many sermons on don’t mix up Alms, First Fruit, tithes and sowing Seed because God won’t bless you. One utube is -How Money Works, Jesse Duplantis. Notice Jesse makes his own words.
Yup, and COMPLETELY out of context. Those churches should have their staff sit down one weekend and carefully study in silence. Malachi was directed at the Jewish nation and more directly at the priests. Tithing was from the produce of the land, wine and oil (in some cases). Not money. So be careful when they use those verses incorrectly. Hence why I don't tithe.
Np where in Hebrew said that Abraham had a church or he preached about God. Abraham was a rich man already and he didn't need donations.😂 When he did sacrifice it was for the good harvest.
In Genesis it was Melchizedek who paid tithes to Abraham not the other way around. Abraham brought back the stuff that was stolen from Melchizedek and the other people and Melchizedek gave Abraham a cut of all. The breaking of the bread and wine that Melchizedek brought out to Abraham represented their worship of Shaddai שדי and the their worship of His Angel/Son Yesh יש This is the reason that Yesh taught about the bread and wine to show everyone that He is the High Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek. Only in the "Book of Hebrews" does the author it gives an alternative because the author "Did" worshiped Melchizedek, called him "Ben Elohim" and said he was an "Immortal" because the author was from a group called "Melchizedekites" the practice is called Melchizedekism, im not making that up. People believed they were Pharisees but they were Sadducees because they did not believe in the " The Angel, resurrection, baptism" This is why the book of Hebrew was not accepted as canon by several churches before 300 AD. This is why in Hebrews it also says the Levite order was a mistake because it was given to them by an "Angel" (Angel of The Elohim) in chapter 2. But if you believe Yahweh is Yeshua then you believe it was Yeshua who created the levitical order. I will not comment again because i know the truth can be offensive and it is hard to put the word above our doctrines, but i have watched you for while now and I see you really do love the Lord. So please do not take offense to my scrutiny of doctrines. I only comment when the Spirit tells me too, but i will not comment again on your channel. Stay in the word family we still have much to learn from the Holy Spirit.
Abraham gave 10% of the goods and the captives. The goods would have been sheep, oxen , donkeys, these sort of thing”. You failed to mention what the “captives” were. Let me help you ; men, women and children, the spoils of war, treated as disposable property.
@@marklucero2524tithing was under the law… so live under all 613 laws.. today you give as you have the ability to give and notice not one Apostle talked about tithing.. not one. Today we are the CHURCH wherever we go and where 2 or 3 are gathered that is the Model of today’s Church and no building is required.. Today any of us can go beyond the veil which was separated for all to enter in if we need to hear from God as well and we need no more mediators. Set yourself free and come out of the modern day Church and REALIZE you are the Church!!! Go and gather lost Souls beyond the walls of the modern day Church and that way you will have treasure stored up in Heaven.
Nowhere in scripture will you find any command or directive to give to your local church (as a building). You can if you feel led to and/or the Holy Spirit guides you to. Any pastor/leader who says you "have to" is in error as they will not find any scriptures to back it up. There is no tithing "principle" at all in the New Testament for us. Many will use Matthew 23. You can't because Jesus was addressing the Pharisees directly, not us. Many will use several verses completely out of context, I'm aware of pretty much all of them. None command tithing. So now what? "Give" as you feel led, give as you are guided by the Spirit. Many use 2 Corinthians completely out of context. When Paul says that "God loves a cheerful giver..." Do you know what he is referencing? He is specifically referencing a particular need for the churches in Macedonia, go read chapter 8. See that's the problem. We cherry pick 1 verse and make it fit our doctrine. You have to read entire books/letters, not single verses. So give if you want to with cheer. Not because you're "told to." Me? I don't tithe. I feed the homeless, give money to known charities and help the body when there is a true need. All backed up by scripture. Hope this helps. Be blessed.
Hebrews 7 is pointing out the superiority of Christ over the Levitical priests. So, it is an argument for the greatness of Christ over the priests the Hebrews revered
Here is how I explained this to people I know: Imagine you get mugged and they take your wallet. You had $1000 in your wallet. Later, a police officer catches the criminal and recovers your wallet. He proceeds to take 10% of your money, $100, gives it to his church, then hands you the other $900. Did he do something honorable? No! He stole a portion of your money! It wasn't his money. He got it back for you, but that doesn't make it his. He didn't give his church $100. He stole it from you.
Not a good analogy it was the spoils of war the booty goes to the victor. Not an assult on one person then you steal the money and proceed ad you stated. That's not even close Sir. Read the scripture again and look at the video again.
@@rochelleb9843 you read the story again. The kings lost a battle, their treasure was taken, then Abraham led his men after the victors and recovered the treasure. It's a perfect analogy. Be a little more creative.
If we can understand that the law is a shadow of things to come and that in the law there is a purpose for everything. Israel brought there thigh to the temple to sustain the priest. In the new covenant we are all priest if we are in Christ Jesus. We are the temple. We are Christ's body. We are supposed to care for one another if we see the others has need. It is what God works in us that is important. Jesus said whatever you have done unto the least of my brother's you have done unto me. We must stop giving the pastors honor. You cannot believe because you seek honor one from another. John 5:44
Genesis 14:20 1599 Geneva Bible 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thine hand. And Abram gave him tithes of all. God later changed Abram's name to Abraham. So, yes Abraham did tithe of all.
Also, when it says Melchizadek had no genealogy, it means he did not become a priest because he was from a genealogical line. And when it says he had no end of life, it is because he didn't stop being a priest at 50, like the Levites.
So were offerings the same as tithes? Is offerings another word for tithes. My church experience was there was a difference. We were taught to tithe, but then additional offerings were collected for other things. We were told they were two distinct things.
Melchizedek doesnt make any sense the way you say it. Without beginning of days? There would have been no priesthood yet and thats a shaky reasoning for that part and id be careful its not clear cut at all.
Remember the tribes of Israel remember the Levitical priest from a certain tribe they weren’t working so they work within the temple so the tide went to them so yeah they had a livelihood
According to the American IRS, you cannot give a gift to someone over $18,000 without paying taxes.. do we really believe that Abrahams spoils of war were less than $18,000.. income is anything that comes in.. If you don’t believe me, just try to not pay your taxes..
It’s funny why people teach this “tithing precedes the law” lie. The WORD tithe existed, not the law of tithing. The word tithe literally means a tenth. The LAW of tithing came in the mosaic covenant, and is NO LONGER REQUIRED OF ANYONE. Not to mention tithing was only meant for the tribes of Israel when other nations existed in the world at the time. Anyone with some smarts can confirm this yes?
It's interesting brother Caleb, for sure, i legitimately say this with much confidence: 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 NOT A SINGLE ONE OF "EVERY PERSON" WHO ENFORCES TITHING, "NOT ONE OF THEM PRACTICES A TRUE TITHING AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF MOSES" (NONE OF THEM EVEN DARES TO GIVE A SINGLE PENNY)
This works amazingly well with those who don't read the Bible at all.
Yeah, because they are not led by the Holy Spirit.
Abraham gave to Melchizedek from the spoils of war, not from his own financial income.
It was something like an income though.
But it doesn't justify tithing as a commanded church rule. If they have that as an arrangement to have funds for operating their ministry is is however OK.
Abraham took the spoils of war and it became his income. He tithed from that.
Benny Hinn is not the only one to preach this!! I've heard scores of others say the same. I tithe!
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I worked in a Jewish synagogues for many years. In 70 AD General Titus of Rome destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem which ended the provision of tithing.
Since then the Jewish synagogues charge a fee for membership rather than tithing which is unlawful without the Temple and the Levites.
Shalom 🕎
@@marklucero2524 Indeed he isn't. But it's superficial to use that as an argument for tithing. It's not 'wrong as such', but if one makes that a legalist requirement than there is and will be problems with this.
Just to give you the idea there.
Adam and the Israelites tithed (or were obliged to).
Jesus gave his live. 100%. And voluntarily.
@@metapolitikgedanken612 I'm confident that teaching that we should tithe pleases God. Teaching that it's optional is your choice.
Apparently Benny’s repentance didn’t last very long.
I agree with what you say. It's amazing how these pro-tithing disciples take scripture out of context and build a faulty doctrine. Talking about disciples, the NT disciples never practiced tithing and that is our standard. I think it is facetious for any preacher to try and use Heb 7 & 8 to endorse tithing to a church organization.
Aaah Benny Hinn, his greed for money never ceases lol
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Since when is Benny Hinn the deciding factor for tithing?
Malachi 3:
8Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.
12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.
13 Your words have been stout against me, saith
@@perrymiller1098tithing was instituted under the law.. do you also agree with obeying all of the laws , 613 to be exact? Today we are the Church as each individual and then corporately . Today we are not under the bondage of the law and can give cheerfully as not a works .. but as a process of gratitude and can give wherever we see a need around us..
Christians are the only ones still tithing when tithing was fir Israelites and the Jews don't tithe today
Amen! I don't see him giving a tenth of his fortune to anyone!
It's very easy to deceived people when they don't read & study d Bible. Those who give only wanted more in return.
GREED is d name.
Brother Caleb, nice clear simple teaching and I certainly agree with everything you said.
Brother George
Stop giving them any money and watch them all fall. Then they won't have jets or million dollar homes or cars.
It's interesting how some ministers of God can take a chapter like Hebrews 7 which is talking about the change of the priesthood to make a person believe it is talking about tithing.
Abraham also offered animal sacrifices before the law, we don't as NT believers. Thanks Caleb for your explanation on this subject. Blessed by your content. God bless.
Abraham circumcised his son Isaac on the eight days,should we also do that to our son😂
Most people do in western civilization @muanachawngthu679
You're descriptive context of Scripture easily refutes these "tithe-or-lose" hawkers that have been repeating the same lies over and over again to line their silky pockets.
In the church I go to, they don't have lengthy giving sermons, but rather, at the end of service they basically say "give what you'd like to give, here's where you can give it, enjoy the rest of your day." Boom, done. The pastor tithes, however, but he doesn't beat congregants over the head for not tithing like my old pastor did.
Called the 'prosperity gospel " and Benny Hinn is king of this .
Thanks for making that passage clearer in Hebrews.
That was a great point about Abraham and circumcision..nobody would argue that we still need to be circumcised today just because he was, so it’s ridiculous to say that we should still tithe today, just because he tithed. And he is only on record as tithing that ONE time!
Yeah, its a good one that stumps them every time!
@@iThinkBiblicallyI wonder why these charlatans neglects all other levitical laws except those concerns giving. They steal in the name of God.
@@iThinkBiblically I saw benny hinn at khythren kulman's grave an confessing he visits occasionally 🙄🤔
@@iThinkBiblicallyThey know tithing is not for church of christ bt they just argue to justify theirs deception and frauding
@@iThinkBiblicallyLet's assume that Abraham gave tenth before the law though not, bt let them answer,, did Abraham belong to the new Covenant?? Not matter who gave when before or after the law, the truth is the church of christ belongs to the new covenant an they gave as a responsibility, unconditionally, according to individual's capability an cheerfully. Introduction of the book of malachi 1 :1 it's clear that God was speaking to the children of Israel thro prophet malachi not to gentiles neither church of christ. In malachi 3 :6 - 12 it's still God speaking to descendants of Jacob same Israelites thro prophet malachi not to gentiles neither church of christ.
Yes giving to those in need is giving to Jesus. Notice when Jesus tells us about the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left, he never says that the sheep tithed and goats didn’t! He tells us one gave to those in need, and the other did not.
Amen! The poor were the receivers of the Tithe, not the givers.
Benny Hinn = Used Tithe Salesman 😉👍. God 🙏 Bless ✝️💛.
Your teaching is bang on brother The Holy Ghost is truly in you brother
Points well taken. Agree. Later on in that same book the scripture says that we "enter the most holy place with "confidence" by the blood of Christ. The New Covenant basis by which we can approach God with confidence,& even boldness according to the Apostle Paul. We are "justified" by God's grace to us in Christ the scripture teaches us, and repeatedly warned by the Apostle Paul against trying to be "justified by the law."
Giving a free will offering to furthering the work of God, whether that’s supporting missionaries, printing bibles and tracts, helping the persecuted church, widows, orphans and the poor will be blessed by God. Giving to Benny Hinn and his ilk will never be blessed. 🙏
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE your Bible based exposes! GOD Bless you
Paul said to Titus, to avoid foolish questions, and geanoligies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
{ Titus 3:9 }
in the torah, we are commanded to give to widows and orphans every few years. funny how no-one teaches the torah in church circles, accept the parts about tithing. even Paul said that the law IS (not was) good, and IS profitable, both spiritually and physically. the church tells us its done away, and will persecute anyone even speaking about it. really not what the bible teaches us.
He also said no one is justified by observing the law. And Romans 10:4-6 sums it up. No law no Torah but belief and faith in Christ
i can see that you are one of those believers who are not studied in the bible. the torah itself is based around faith in God and also speaks of the Messiah (Yehoshua). although observing the commandments themselves cannot save your soul, they are still good and carry many blessings in this life. many Christians spoil their witness about Christ by OPPOSING God's laws, which cause the divisions we observe today, and do not speak well of the so called salvation they claim to have. @@jcwindevillose
Thank you so much brother Caleb for the simple but profoundly liberating gospel truth. NOWHERE does Jesus command us to tithe, NOWHERE do the disciples/the apostles teach us to tithe. But modern churches, esp. megachurches teach...
One correction is in Gen 15:6, he was still Abram and we read:
“Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.”
Abram was “saved”, (counted as righteous), prior to being renamed Abraham.
I agree with your view on tithing and think that it is something that Christian's should not try to practice today. Especially, in the way that it is taught in the modern age. Thank you for sharing this information and exposing the corruption behind the pastors who endorse this false teaching to take financial advantage of their church.
On a side note, I would love at some point to hear more of what you think about Melchizedek. I find it interesting that Melchizedek brought out bread and wine when He blessed Abram and that His priesthood is one that is eternal. He is also described as the king of righteousness and the king of peace and the scriptures describe Christ as being a priest according to the order of Melchizedek. These are just a few points. If you do not think that this could be the Christ, I would be interested to know who you think Melchizedek is.
Tithing should never be a requirement, but if you think “Christians should not try” to give 10% (or more), you are mistaken. Scripture is clear we should give generously.
@@aisaacp thanks for your reply. I never claimed that Christians should not give, neither did I state how much they should. There is a difference between paying a tithe and giving an offering and my comment focuses on the aspect of tithing only.
@@Resoundinglyavergage Amen, great to hear. Because of the abuse of tithing in many churches, many Christians have turned away from giving all together. I was just making sure you didn’t believe so 👍🏽
@@aisaacp I understand where you are coming from, a lot of people make the assumption that paying tithes and giving offerings are the same thing. I would actually be interested to know more about your view on giving generously. You said that the scripture is clear on this. Do you mind sharing the scriptures that are clear and what you understand?
My pastor believes in the tithe, but it’s one that I totally disagree with. Besides, Abraham was a rich man and could have easily given money, if it was about money. I like that you brought up we’re to give to those in need, and that the pastor is just a priest like other believers. Great job, Caleb. Thank you, brother 🙏
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2Peter 2.3
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I've tithed as an act of obedience for more than 30 years now. God has blessed and increased me. I believe it's a big mistake not to tithe. God builds his church through His faithful!
I've never been part of a church ministry on the receiving end of wherever the tithe goes.
@marklucero2524: if you give following your heart, it is fine, sure God blessed you! But it is not a command to tithe.
I am not tithing (because it is old testament law, it never was money, it was produce)
But I am a cheerful giver as the Holy Spirit prompts me to give. For example, when my church had a renovation of
about $ 50 k, I gave $ 30 k which was about half of my net-income.
@@GLang-kq5lw Looks like you are a cheerful giver! God is faithful to bless giving! God is faithfully good!
God bless you because you are in His grace John 1.17 Romans 3.24
To tithed is a law indifferent to what Abraham has done - Malachi 4.4 - Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Please, i remind you that at the time the Malachi was written, it wasn't - chapters and verses. Don't see a separate chapter 3, from chapter 4. Now Galatians 4.4 : Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Romans 10.4 : For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Hello there. God bless you for your honest work.
I would like to mention a verse from the chapter you read about Malki-Tsedek (note that I don’t about tithing at all).
Here it is : “8 Moreover, in the case of the cohanim, the tenth is received by men who die; while in the case of Malki-Tzedek, it is received by someone who is testified to be still alive.”
Here, in context, and after I’ve been on your comprehension side, I see Paul establishing that Yeshua and the king of Salem are the same being.
Would you please tell what you think about this ?
I’m reading from the CJB version by the way.
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Exactly: description does not mean prescription. Be a happy giver. Amen.
I like you Bud. God bless 💜🙏
Definitely agreed on the tithing arguments. But Melchizedek had no father, no mother, no genealogy, no beginning of days. Especially the last two are divine attributes. In my mind he can be nothing else but theophany. The person in the furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego was also like the Son of God and is widely accepted to be Jesus.
I am convinced it was Jesus in Abrahams' time (once he told pharisees he met Abraham and he rejoiced)
It was a theophany of God, not Jesus. The Son of God did not exist until incarnation.
@@ws775 well theophany is always of God since Θεός-Theos is "God" and φάνει(α) is "to appear". The Son of God had not yet come to earth but there was theophany aplenty in the Bible beforehand anyway. So who was the one appearing? There are three persons in the Trinity and only one of them has been seen. Βy elimination we know who it was. The Father hasn't. The Holy Spirit hasn't except as a dove. The only one that has appeared in human form is the Word/Jesus.
Keep up your good presentations exposing the false teachings used to churches
Thank you, I will
Pastor would tell us that God will curse us and our children if we don’t bring 10% of all our financial earnings to his church 😮
Did the apostles travel around the churches teaching gentile believers to tithe?
Yes I am not tithe from my income, but I tithe from God's blessing, I have nothing on my own, but all are God's blessings. All are God's blessings. All belongs to God , therefore I give tithe because of his blessings.
Abraham's tithe to Melchizidek was the Kings tithe. Samuel explained the practice when Israel sinned by wanting a king. 1 Samuel 8:15 ►He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.... It isn't a Law, it was custom to acknowledge a king...
Brothers everything belongs to God..we need to listen how he wants us to give...He is not talking trough those thives and wolves... 8:13
But,but, but, Bennie’s got a line on a good deal for a gulf stream
Is Tyler Perry getting rid of his Gulfstream III.....I mean Copeland got a smokin' deal from him previously. Sounds like a good Christian man....helpin' the chosen run to and fro as their knowledge increases
So are taxes a Tithe to the King = Government??? Is the 10% that some churches require is that considered a membership Fee/Tax to participate in services and events there? I ask because some churches only consider you a member if you Tithe!!!
Amen! The King of Sodom offered him money, and Abram rejected it.
This issue is one that I struggle with both sides of this argument. It's like the issue of "the rapture". There's one side for pre rapture and another against it. There's strong biblical evidence to support both points of view. So, you never know for sure. I think some things the Lord wants to remain ambiguous. If we knew everything, then we'd be God wouldn't wr? I do know that the Lords work needs support, but I don't necessarily want to be manipulated or coerced into "actions". If we love the Lord, we will be willing to do everything we can to please Him, but that's different than sone wolf trying to make "merchandise" of me or anyone else. I would like to be on the safe side. So, I lean on the safe side.
This is smart. Seedtime and harvest will not be done away with. Unless a grain of wheat goes into the ground and dies it remains alone. If we got to McDonald’s we don’t say ya no I won’t pay here I’ll Pay and Burger King. Peoples arguments that it doesn’t say in the Bible it was income 😂, there goats they were slaughtering was their income. Time talent and treasure is what we have, we work our sweat into the ground to get it. We will gladly give McDonald’s our last 5 bucks and throw no fit, but we can’t support our local body to make moves that God places on our pastor’s heart because they only want our money 😆! Ok but the world doesn’t 👌🏻. My pastor could take my tithe and go behind the church and burn it. I do not care. I give because I want to give of my lifeblood back to what Christ had given for me, I made 70 k this last year tithes and offerings were 13k and I don’t feel a ounce of regret.
One day closer to his judgement and still serving up lies..Woe to Benny Hinn....
Sad that these so-called preachers don't have the faith to believe in God for finances instead of stealing from the body of Christ.
Good word. Abraham (Abram at the time) gave away all of the spoils of war, not just 10% of them, and there's no biblical evidence he ever "tithed" again. His honorarium to Melchizedek was likely driven primarily by the custom of the land at the time. There's no biblical evidence his submission was required by God.
Jesus is without father and without mother and without length of days.
The Alpha and Omega.
The King of Righteousness and Prince of Peace and Priest Forever.
And in Revelation it says Jesus is Like unto the Son of Man. And in Daniel it says Like unto the Son of God.
It is the same as saying Son of Man.
It is His Title.
Revelation 1
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one Like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Daniel 3:25
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is Like the Son of God.
Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Revelation 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
Hebrews 7
20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent,
Thou art a priest for ever...
Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace
Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful
Hebrews 7
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually
Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful
Ut say without beginning of days, id be careful with that one.
Yeah that was sloppy of me... without father or mother.
Abraham was even rich for God had blessed him,and therefore Abraham didn't give to be blessed.Even those who teach that God tests man to see our faithfulness, God tested Abraham with Isaac offering,not money
Yes he did!
Great teaching my brother .
Can you do me a favor?
On your next video could you illustrate how that Jesus was not a descendant of the Aaronic Priesthood and explain the difference it probably will bring your viewers into a better understanding of tithing Today under the New Covenant
God bless 🙌 🙏
Giving to the church is not for the priest or preacher to buy a new car or a mansion or a rolex. Is for the maintenance of the building and for the people in need.
Even Paul had a normal job for his income.
This guy can get a job at Wal-Mart and live modesty.
I agree a pastor should never spend the money he receives from ministry on luxuries. But in most cases if you are pastoring a church you should not have another job. Your obligation is for the people, and rightly dividing the word of truth. A pastor should be paid for his efforts just as any other job would. See 1 Corinthians 9.
1 Corinthians 9:14
[14] In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
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I think this verse is about not being a hypocrite. If you want people to live by the gospel you have to be the example.
The gospel should be given freely.
If what you are saying is true then pastors should not get married and have children. Their congregation should be more important than their daughter's ballet performances at school or your son's baseball game.
@@LuisVazquez-hx3bk did you actually study 1 Corinthians 9? Paul is clearly advocating for those in ministry to be paid. 1 Corinthians 9:7
[7] Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk?
He goes on in verse 12 saying that he doesn’t make use of his right to be paid, because he doesn’t want the church of Corinth to think he is only doing ministry for the money. Nor does he want anyone else to abuse that right. But that doesn’t change the fact that those who labor for the gospel deserve to the right to make their living through the gospel. It doesn’t mean they deserve to get wealthy from the gospel, but it means they deserve to have their basic financial needs met.
It is my opinion that a pastor’s income should be similar to the average income of those in his church community around him. Do you really think a pastor can do his job well if he has to spend 40+ hours a week doing another job? Often times ministry requires working 50-60 hours a week. In order to pastor/lead well, it is best they don’t have to split their time between two jobs.
My pastor says Abraham worshiped Melchizedek. What do you think?
Wolves = balderdash. The King of kings is coming. Hallelujah. John 14:6
Covenant Theology is a cafeteria style Christianity where pastors pick and choose what parts of the old law they wish; contrary to Christ saying the law cannot be broken and Paul that if you accept circumcision as law, you're bound by the whole Mosaic code. This was kept by the Reformers because it supports Christendom and a state sponsored Church. It is contrary to the Law of Christ which specifically says giving should be voluntary.
In the Bible, Abraham gives a tenth of his possessions to Melchizedek as a tithe. This is described in Genesis 14:20. He repealed gave that's not there but Abraham gave...
No Abraham never gave a tenth of his possessions. Read the story again my friend.
Judas, an original apostle hung himself......perhaps some of these "self- appointed apostles" may feel they should follow his example and "go and do thou likewise!" Whoops, did I really say that!
I have ZERO trust in rich men and women preaching while they live in mansions, fly in private jets and drive in limos and an expensive Mercedes Benz. Christ Savior had no home, no riches and borrowed a donkey when he rode into Jerusalem on what we now observe as Palm Sunday. However, the return of Christ King will be a different story. Make your home right in Him.
Good morning from U.S. Bro Caleb! It's sad you have to keep on making these types of videos but I guess it's needed you never know who'll come across them.
I think a lot of these "Preachers/Pastors" just don't understand the Bible and they pass their misunderstandings to the church members. It happens all the time.
Yeah, I though I would do one on just Abraham because people keep on asking me about it. lol
They would gladly take a widows last penny
Benny Hinn is such a false teacher who refuses to repent. Greed is a terrible thing.
If I'm not mistaken, tithes and offerings, was instituted for sacrifice in the temple, for the forgiveness of sins. Tithes and offerings was instituted before the law, because sins needed to be forgiven before the law, and ordering up sacrifices was the only way in the old testament to be forgiven.
Should I now chase after robbers, recover what they got via robbing, so as to be able to tithe ala-Abraham?
Great teaching again brother Caleb! What's your take on Proverbs 3. 9-10 ? Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.
This does seem like a biblical principle that could apply to both Old and New Testaments
The most comprehensive passage on first fruits is Deuteronomy 26. Especially look at verses 1-4. First fruits was a handbasket of food taken to a festival and blessed by the priest. But the offeror gets it back and consumes it with his family and he invites the Levites, the poor and the foreigner to join him.
@@iThinkBiblically Thanks brother Caleb - I didn't make the connexion. However the passage in Proverbs 3 is in the context of general statements of wisdom. So it would be stretching it a bit to say that this relates to the law of Moses. John MacArthur's commentary indicates it is a general principle.
Benny got the old begging bowl out again!
Jesse Duplantis has many sermons on don’t mix up Alms, First Fruit, tithes and sowing Seed because God won’t bless you. One utube is -How Money Works, Jesse Duplantis. Notice Jesse makes his own words.
Many churches uses this verse, Malachi 3:8-11.......On tithing??????
Yup, and COMPLETELY out of context. Those churches should have their staff sit down one weekend and carefully study in silence. Malachi was directed at the Jewish nation and more directly at the priests. Tithing was from the produce of the land, wine and oil (in some cases). Not money. So be careful when they use those verses incorrectly. Hence why I don't tithe.
Np where in Hebrew said that Abraham had a church or he preached about God.
Abraham was a rich man already and he didn't need donations.😂
When he did sacrifice it was for the good harvest.
Benny Hinn is a record holder in christianity he did not get even one verse right in all of his career,
In Genesis it was Melchizedek who paid tithes to Abraham not the other way around.
Abraham brought back the stuff that was stolen from Melchizedek and the other people and Melchizedek gave Abraham a cut of all.
The breaking of the bread and wine that Melchizedek brought out to Abraham represented their worship of Shaddai שדי and the their worship of His Angel/Son Yesh יש
This is the reason that Yesh taught about the bread and wine to show everyone that He is the High Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
Only in the "Book of Hebrews" does the author it gives an alternative because the author "Did" worshiped Melchizedek, called him "Ben Elohim" and said he was an "Immortal" because the author was from a group called "Melchizedekites" the practice is called Melchizedekism, im not making that up.
People believed they were Pharisees but they were Sadducees because they did not believe in the " The Angel, resurrection, baptism"
This is why the book of Hebrew was not accepted as canon by several churches before 300 AD.
This is why in Hebrews it also says the Levite order was a mistake because it was given to them by an "Angel" (Angel of The Elohim) in chapter 2.
But if you believe Yahweh is Yeshua then you believe it was Yeshua who created the levitical order.
I will not comment again because i know the truth can be offensive and it is hard to put the word above our doctrines, but i have watched you for while now and I see you really do love the Lord.
So please do not take offense to my scrutiny of doctrines. I only comment when the Spirit tells me too, but i will not comment again on your channel.
Stay in the word family we still have much to learn from the Holy Spirit.
So we are not even safe in church when the pastor talks more about money than the Gospel. We are doomed
Abraham gave 10% of the goods and the captives. The goods would have been sheep, oxen , donkeys, these sort of thing”. You failed to mention what the “captives” were. Let me help you ; men, women and children, the spoils of war, treated as disposable property.
We are free to tithe. It is not required under the Law of Christ
We are free to give.. whenever we see a need around us..
@@davidrexford586 Tithing is obedience!
@@marklucero2524tithing was under the law… so live under all 613 laws.. today you give as you have the ability to give and notice not one Apostle talked about tithing.. not one. Today we are the CHURCH wherever we go and where 2 or 3 are gathered that is the Model of today’s Church and no building is required.. Today any of us can go beyond the veil which was separated for all to enter in if we need to hear from God as well and we need no more mediators. Set yourself free and come out of the modern day Church and REALIZE you are the Church!!! Go and gather lost Souls beyond the walls of the modern day Church and that way you will have treasure stored up in Heaven.
So i dont get it.. should we not give anything to our home church??
Nowhere in scripture will you find any command or directive to give to your local church (as a building). You can if you feel led to and/or the Holy Spirit guides you to. Any pastor/leader who says you "have to" is in error as they will not find any scriptures to back it up. There is no tithing "principle" at all in the New Testament for us. Many will use Matthew 23. You can't because Jesus was addressing the Pharisees directly, not us. Many will use several verses completely out of context, I'm aware of pretty much all of them. None command tithing. So now what? "Give" as you feel led, give as you are guided by the Spirit. Many use 2 Corinthians completely out of context. When Paul says that "God loves a cheerful giver..." Do you know what he is referencing? He is specifically referencing a particular need for the churches in Macedonia, go read chapter 8. See that's the problem. We cherry pick 1 verse and make it fit our doctrine. You have to read entire books/letters, not single verses. So give if you want to with cheer. Not because you're "told to." Me? I don't tithe. I feed the homeless, give money to known charities and help the body when there is a true need. All backed up by scripture. Hope this helps. Be blessed.
Hebrews 7 is pointing out the superiority of Christ over the Levitical priests. So, it is an argument for the greatness of Christ over the priests the Hebrews revered
The point is that there was someone greater than Abraham which the Jew refused to accept
Here is how I explained this to people I know: Imagine you get mugged and they take your wallet. You had $1000 in your wallet. Later, a police officer catches the criminal and recovers your wallet. He proceeds to take 10% of your money, $100, gives it to his church, then hands you the other $900. Did he do something honorable? No! He stole a portion of your money! It wasn't his money. He got it back for you, but that doesn't make it his. He didn't give his church $100. He stole it from you.
Not a good analogy it was the spoils of war the booty goes to the victor. Not an assult on one person then you steal the money and proceed ad you stated. That's not even close Sir. Read the scripture again and look at the video again.
@@rochelleb9843 you read the story again. The kings lost a battle, their treasure was taken, then Abraham led his men after the victors and recovered the treasure. It's a perfect analogy. Be a little more creative.
If we can understand that the law is a shadow of things to come and that in the law there is a purpose for everything. Israel brought there thigh to the temple to sustain the priest. In the new covenant we are all priest if we are in Christ Jesus. We are the temple. We are Christ's body. We are supposed to care for one another if we see the others has need. It is what God works in us that is important. Jesus said whatever you have done unto the least of my brother's you have done unto me. We must stop giving the pastors honor. You cannot believe because you seek honor one from another. John 5:44
we don't tithe in Orthodoxy!!
A tithe is literally a tenth part... Abraham gave a tithe to the King of Righteousness aka the Melchizedek, which is God's Priest.
Yes, he gave a tenth. However, they were from the spoils of war, not his income.
@@gamecrusher2024 I don't disagree about the income point, but the video suggests that a tithe can be different percentages, which is untrue...
Binny Hinn-derance
Genesis 14:20
1599 Geneva Bible
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thine hand. And Abram gave him tithes of all.
God later changed Abram's name to Abraham.
So, yes Abraham did tithe of all.
Also, when it says Melchizadek had no genealogy, it means he did not become a priest because he was from a genealogical line. And when it says he had no end of life, it is because he didn't stop being a priest at 50, like the Levites.
Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland use Abraham as an example,too explain why there Rich
Genesis 28:18
Benny hinn needs God to regenerate his heart he is not a Christian
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Thing I find funny is we're supposed to tithe every Sunday or Saturday but most people get paid biweekly so should we give five % each week 😂?
Why does Malachi 3;8 also mention offerings?
Cause they were living under the law of Moses.
So were offerings the same as tithes? Is offerings another word for tithes. My church experience was there was a difference. We were taught to tithe, but then additional offerings were collected for other things. We were told they were two distinct things.
What about Jacob in Genesis 28- 20-22
And Dr. Michael Brown is good with this?
Melchizedek doesnt make any sense the way you say it. Without beginning of days? There would have been no priesthood yet and thats a shaky reasoning for that part and id be careful its not clear cut at all.
Remember the tribes of Israel remember the Levitical priest from a certain tribe they weren’t working so they work within the temple so the tide went to them so yeah they had a livelihood
So these prosperity preachers out right deceive people?i trust that God will judge the accordingly for their deception.
Circumcision is more cultural and has health benefits. The majority of African cultural do circumcise their male as rights of passage.
According to the American IRS, you cannot give a gift to someone over $18,000 without paying taxes.. do we really believe that Abrahams spoils of war were less than $18,000.. income is anything that comes in.. If you don’t believe me, just try to not pay your taxes..
You only have to report if over $18k. You can give $11 million without taxes.
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Melkezidec or whatever he did pay
It’s funny why people teach this “tithing precedes the law” lie. The WORD tithe existed, not the law of tithing. The word tithe literally means a tenth. The LAW of tithing came in the mosaic covenant, and is NO LONGER REQUIRED OF ANYONE. Not to mention tithing was only meant for the tribes of Israel when other nations existed in the world at the time. Anyone with some smarts can confirm this yes?
Yes. It's also interesting how tithing from monetary earnings has no biblical precedent.
@@markb7067 exactly. Because these money hungry thieves has linked the word “tithes” and “money” together.
It's interesting brother Caleb, for sure, i legitimately say this with much confidence:
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NOT A SINGLE ONE OF "EVERY PERSON" WHO ENFORCES TITHING, "NOT ONE OF THEM PRACTICES A TRUE TITHING AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF MOSES" (NONE OF THEM EVEN DARES TO GIVE A SINGLE PENNY)