Fair points. I'm pretty new to this game and don't really even understand how that gamemode works or how to contribute. But I didn't realize I was causing other people grief. So from now on, I won't sign up for Valley of Conquerors.
Love this panda! Ive been thinking and saying this for months..I also wonder about the matching system, I realize the game cant predict who plays and who doesn't, it just always seems that all the active players are on the same team, usually blue ;p thanks for posting this!
It's more so that players see what placement their team is in and immediately make a decision of whether they will play or not. If they think they are losing anyways, they make the cost-benefit analysis that they won't play. The game needs to make the team rankings appear later when 2 days are remaining for VoC that way people engage more until then.
thank you for making this video. I am totally agreed with you. I even had an argument with one of the players in my alliance a few games earlier about this, and his response was like this " I shouldn't cry over this, because I don't know his situation. He can do whatever he can because this is his game account." My reply was "then you shouldn't sign up for VoC, if you don't want to play". Then He started swearing. I even wrote to Bloodline discord about this and proposed a solution, but my post got deleted, don't know the reason. My proposal was, when making an alliance, while looking at the strength of a player, they should also look at the average activities of previous VoC. This way active players will get active teammates. I am actually tired of these VoC and GC to be honest. VoC got this inactivity issue, and as I reached 100 million strength, I am now matched with much higher strength players, where I can do very little. and in GC, my Guild was matched against 700 million- 1 billion (Gorilla/Kitty/BaronC's guild) where the maximum strength of my teammate is 250 million and 4-5 others have 150+million main teams. I love this game, occasionally spend in this game, but if the game is heading this way, I will ultimately quit.
I agree agree with you. We happen to have met on my 2nd account. I might seem like I'm killing it, but tbh, I don't consider myself a fantastic super active player. I have a full time job, but at least I check the game at least 2 times a day and do my best to capture (back) towers if needed (it's not that time consuming, unlike GC) which is imo quite casual. I think in team strength I get pretty fair matches (not always super easy). Sorry to see and admit that I don't even need to be that active this match as there is just hardly anything happening. It's indeed really frustrating that you have to carry your team and it's like 1 or 2 vs 4 or 5. (yes true, I'm from and older server but it is kind of dead and I struggle on progression, so I guess I am behind on that and my slow pace is why I get matched against players from newer servers. but that is not the point here. the point is: people, it does not take much to participate if you signed up. or maybe it's just easy for me to say?) I wish we had met in a match with teams not only balanced on strength but also on team play. There's also no honor to win if it is not a fair match.
My issue with Valley of Conquers is that it doesn't allow everyone to play in it. If you are not on the team, you are on the waiting list, and it never changes. It's taking me entirely too long to get rewards to upgrade my legendary characters or, in my case, character.
Guild Conquest might be even worse. Btw, I noticed that many players are in their guild are listed as 7 days inactive. For more than 7 days. What is happening? Once, I fell sick just a day before it started. Made my first move 1.5 days after it began. And, Lol, wss still able to rank high enough to get the #1 rewards. Ended up #4 as a group. Another time, I had a few really good teammates when I got sick a day before it ended. They held the line and we got #1 place as a group.
totally agree and well said sometimes i question why i play this game at all the lack of gamemodes, dungeon decent is just painful. i also hate ptw guildclash. but i enjoy voc unfortunatly these cancerous players are widespread across all levels of play. its generally the actives vs non actives and needs to change better rewards could give more incentive to play or a sub bench where inactives can be swapped out. maybe standdown inactive players
No, you are 200 percent correct, I actually don't sign up to voc anymore, because I can't get the time, I play gvg, I don't have time for voc, so why sign up, that wouldnt be right but the last time I did sign up, yea, no one played or even wrote in chat.
Just checked my VoC and one team only had 7 active, the others all had 9-10. This seems to be an issue at lower might levels. On the flip side, you probably have a lot more battles to build up points and finish high in individual leader board to get those rewards. Nice vid as always 🐼
I have a number of thoughts about VoC but mostly I feel the matchmaking is just kind of bad. I think ideally the four teams should be about evenly matched so that everyone is able to fight each other for the resources but often times(or maybe it's just me) you run into someone (or a team) who just stomps on everyone else. Anyone can sign up for VoC but you never know what kind of situation you'll be thrown into. Sometimes you're just thrown into matches that you can't do anything in cause your opponents are way stronger than you are. I enjoy the game mode when it works but there have been times where I'm thrown into a run where no one can even touch the top team and that can feel bad on both sides, or it did for me. When you're losing then you just can't play the game cause they have teams sitting on the gates locking you out. But even when you're winning it isn't as fun because the strong members are keeping the other teams from making a move so you're getting team points but there's not much for you to do.
Developers could balance this issue by changing the stamina cap and regeneration based on how many people in an alliance Vs the other alliances are active. I play alone this week lmao
0 listen genius some of us do try to play however when the opposing team is maxed out silver Stars and are hundreds of millions of points above your team and they block you in so you can't even leave your home base but the f*** you expect us to do
I feel like your anger is misplaced. I’m talking about people who aren’t playing on purpose. But also, if you’re talking to your team you can easily break out of those situations. Nobody is so strong that they can hold every exit and leave your entire team helpless.
@Final_State I got blocked in on current v o c...so...happens. I'm one of 2, out of 7...doing anything in this one. Among the top five, worst, I've seen.
Thanks!
I agree! It is not fair to people who want to compete and enjoy the game.
Fair points. I'm pretty new to this game and don't really even understand how that gamemode works or how to contribute. But I didn't realize I was causing other people grief. So from now on, I won't sign up for Valley of Conquerors.
Rage On Panda San, the truth needed to be told. Let the voice of change not fall on deaf ears.
Goat Games, listen to the man or your fuck'in up!
Amen to that
Finally someone says it. I have been saying this to all the VOC teams i have played in. It really pisses me off
If we talk about it openly people will realize they’re doing something wrong. Some people just don’t know
Love this panda! Ive been thinking and saying this for months..I also wonder about the matching system, I realize the game cant predict who plays and who doesn't, it just always seems that all the active players are on the same team, usually blue ;p thanks for posting this!
Hopefully we can change the world just enough that people play voc
Just realized that, if server 1578 is already being affected by players ghosting in GC & VOC, the game is in real trouble! 😢
I think someone some where is recommending it
DON'T BE GARBAGE PEOPLE!! If you don't have time to play VoC or just do not want to partake, don't sign up and ruin it for all the other players.
It's more so that players see what placement their team is in and immediately make a decision of whether they will play or not. If they think they are losing anyways, they make the cost-benefit analysis that they won't play. The game needs to make the team rankings appear later when 2 days are remaining for VoC that way people engage more until then.
I don’t agree with this take. You can’t possibly make an informed decision on whether the game is worth playing without playing for two days
@@RagepandaONE yeah true, but their decision is uninformed
Fair point
thank you for making this video. I am totally agreed with you. I even had an argument with one of the players in my alliance a few games earlier about this, and his response was like this " I shouldn't cry over this, because I don't know his situation. He can do whatever he can because this is his game account." My reply was "then you shouldn't sign up for VoC, if you don't want to play". Then He started swearing.
I even wrote to Bloodline discord about this and proposed a solution, but my post got deleted, don't know the reason. My proposal was, when making an alliance, while looking at the strength of a player, they should also look at the average activities of previous VoC. This way active players will get active teammates.
I am actually tired of these VoC and GC to be honest. VoC got this inactivity issue, and as I reached 100 million strength, I am now matched with much higher strength players, where I can do very little. and in GC, my Guild was matched against 700 million- 1 billion (Gorilla/Kitty/BaronC's guild) where the maximum strength of my teammate is 250 million and 4-5 others have 150+million main teams. I love this game, occasionally spend in this game, but if the game is heading this way, I will ultimately quit.
Yeah those are major issues which I don’t have perfect solutions for. But I’m hopeful
I agree agree with you. We happen to have met on my 2nd account. I might seem like I'm killing it, but tbh, I don't consider myself a fantastic super active player. I have a full time job, but at least I check the game at least 2 times a day and do my best to capture (back) towers if needed (it's not that time consuming, unlike GC) which is imo quite casual. I think in team strength I get pretty fair matches (not always super easy). Sorry to see and admit that I don't even need to be that active this match as there is just hardly anything happening. It's indeed really frustrating that you have to carry your team and it's like 1 or 2 vs 4 or 5. (yes true, I'm from and older server but it is kind of dead and I struggle on progression, so I guess I am behind on that and my slow pace is why I get matched against players from newer servers. but that is not the point here. the point is: people, it does not take much to participate if you signed up. or maybe it's just easy for me to say?) I wish we had met in a match with teams not only balanced on strength but also on team play. There's also no honor to win if it is not a fair match.
Thanks for reminding me to do my 1 move today in VoC.
This guy….
you are absolutly right !!!
My issue with Valley of Conquers is that it doesn't allow everyone to play in it. If you are not on the team, you are on the waiting list, and it never changes. It's taking me entirely too long to get rewards to upgrade my legendary characters or, in my case, character.
I think you mean guild conquest, which is a game mode I absolutely hate
Guild Conquest might be even worse.
Btw, I noticed that many players are in their guild are listed as 7 days inactive. For more than 7 days. What is happening?
Once, I fell sick just a day before it started. Made my first move 1.5 days after it began. And, Lol, wss still able to rank high enough to get the #1 rewards. Ended up #4 as a group.
Another time, I had a few really good teammates when I got sick a day before it ended. They held the line and we got #1 place as a group.
I hardly do voc these days. I just kind of forget to do it. So i would rather not lose the gems. Last time i did i was pretty much solo the whole week
Feel the panda rage, non-players!
totally agree and well said sometimes i question why i play this game at all the lack of gamemodes, dungeon decent is just painful. i also hate ptw guildclash. but i enjoy voc unfortunatly these cancerous players are widespread across all levels of play. its generally the actives vs non actives and needs to change better rewards could give more incentive to play or a sub bench where inactives can be swapped out. maybe standdown inactive players
No, you are 200 percent correct, I actually don't sign up to voc anymore, because I can't get the time, I play gvg, I don't have time for voc, so why sign up, that wouldnt be right but the last time I did sign up, yea, no one played or even wrote in chat.
Hopefully it will get better
Just checked my VoC and one team only had 7 active, the others all had 9-10. This seems to be an issue at lower might levels. On the flip side, you probably have a lot more battles to build up points and finish high in individual leader board to get those rewards. Nice vid as always 🐼
Only truth detected. Totally agree!
lol
Thank you for making this video!
Goat games could fix this with the way the rewards are distributed. Making it not worth it if you don't perform well. I
I agree. They tried to make that a bit of an incentive but they need to tighten the bolts a bit. And 0 interaction should make for zero rewards
Lol I'm helix bloodfang in game with you, I agree 💯
We’re trying now lol
Preach!!!
I have a number of thoughts about VoC but mostly I feel the matchmaking is just kind of bad. I think ideally the four teams should be about evenly matched so that everyone is able to fight each other for the resources but often times(or maybe it's just me) you run into someone (or a team) who just stomps on everyone else. Anyone can sign up for VoC but you never know what kind of situation you'll be thrown into. Sometimes you're just thrown into matches that you can't do anything in cause your opponents are way stronger than you are.
I enjoy the game mode when it works but there have been times where I'm thrown into a run where no one can even touch the top team and that can feel bad on both sides, or it did for me. When you're losing then you just can't play the game cause they have teams sitting on the gates locking you out. But even when you're winning it isn't as fun because the strong members are keeping the other teams from making a move so you're getting team points but there's not much for you to do.
Matchmaking is pretty rough especially for earlier servers
I truly wish the players that do this garbage actually watch this video.
Me too, and I hope I wasn’t too harsh
Developers could balance this issue by changing the stamina cap and regeneration based on how many people in an alliance Vs the other alliances are active. I play alone this week lmao
LOL Orion is trying to get a free loot. People like him should be banned from Valley of conquer.
100% agreed
VoC I just spend my points getting my rearend handed to me. But I do get my team points.
Sometimes I just run around making nodes the right color lol
@RagepandaONE BTW, this is one of my favorite intro slides. Really laughed out loud. Good job. Thx for the chuckle.
That's why I don't play VoC at all
Sometimes i register and then absolutely forget playing it 😂😂 Also the game needs a PC client and horizontal screen😏
That would be nice for sure
Those who doesn't play should be banned or atleast get some penalty. They are just signing in and demotivated those who wanna play voc.
Many of us feel the same which means we can at least make ourselves heard if we say things the right way
Tell me what server to go to. I'll join your guild. I play every day.
1578! Join RageEternal
@@RagepandaONE I will go check it out now. Thanks!
@@RagepandaONE joined your guild. Thank you!
totally agree
I don't like voc or gc, but...we are participating...as a server, in both, with cynicism.
0 listen genius some of us do try to play however when the opposing team is maxed out silver Stars and are hundreds of millions of points above your team and they block you in so you can't even leave your home base but the f*** you expect us to do
That would be the “moderate play”, even if you fight and die you earn points.
Voc matching is pretty good, u cant beat everyone but there must be a person you can beat
This isn't guild conquest. I've never even seen someone do this in VoC.
I feel like your anger is misplaced. I’m talking about people who aren’t playing on purpose. But also, if you’re talking to your team you can easily break out of those situations. Nobody is so strong that they can hold every exit and leave your entire team helpless.
@Final_State I got blocked in on current v o c...so...happens. I'm one of 2, out of 7...doing anything in this one. Among the top five, worst, I've seen.