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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2016
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If we were to match top rappers of this generation to their predecessors in previous Generations, I always imagined that Drake is the best paired with Jay Z. Drake is this generation’s top selling rapper, he owns a sports team, he releases new music relentlessly, all much like Hov in his prime. Kendrick Lamar spoken often about his love and respect for Tupac, but he’s probably closer to an Andre 3000 type artist-not afraid to take sonic risks, his music goes over a lot of people’s heads. Future’s definitely the evolution of Lil Wayne. Then there’s J Cole. J Cole is undeniably this generation’s Nas. Let’s break it down.
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I thought Lil Wayne was this generations Lil Wayne.
I tought lil wayne wasn’t old school
Walter Bottler Lil Wayne was rapping in 96' with cash money so yeah he is
The Eye Guy-but he became famous in mid 2000(that I know of)
Walter Bottler nah that's when he became internationally known with cash money in the early 2000's he was already well known and was making lots of money with them and look at all the new school rappers he influenced some new artists consider Cole and Kendrick and Drake old school artist who say Wayne has inspired then
The Eye Guy-I mean none of the rappers today don’t compare to the old school and there’s only a few good ones the rest r trash
btw drake cant be jay jay writes his rhymes
Jay doesn't write
You are correct Jay dosen't write his rhymes.. He just memories it and you know it..
he even wrote still for dre
ronnie Cochran he actually doesn't lmfao, he freestyles. Good try tho
So does drake
Jay steals other peoples lyrics
Nas is still amazing even without Illmatic, but Illmatic is Nas and Nas is Illmatic.
nope. nas is below average without illmatic...
@@urioberlander7022 Exactly
Uri Oberlander what about ether ? Nas is like? Cops shot the kid? Everything? Made you look?
People been sleeping on Em's lyricism, he has one of the largest vocabularies in the game.
Ma giuntini no one sleeps on em lyrical ability this isn’t he 90s
Lil Wayne = Future ???
That’s the biggest compliment future will ever receive
Most disrespectful comment to lilwayne
@@diontaylibert9234 Wayne likes Future
they made a couple feature together
@@adriel.4887 OK.....?
@pablo gonzalez
Listen to president Carter then come back to that comment
Future is great. Check out Codeine Crazy, it's one of the best songs of all time
I just want to say that the wall behind this dude is straight up fire
Thank you.
Young_Raymond lol the second I saw the madvillainy record I knew he knew what's up
I know right!
Young_Raymond the fugees is what made me love it
He has food and liquor too 🙏🏽
'4 Your Eyez Only' made me cry and run to hug my daughter.
Then I fell on my face because I don't have a daughter.
Drake is more like this generation's Ja Rule.
At least actually had some bars. Ja Rule was always meh lyrically even at the best of times, namely his 1st album.
hahahah. yesss.
Lmao and Pusha T is his 50 cent
Shaun Cameron if only he wrote them
Yeah yeah
Nas' vocabulary spills, he's ill. To me, Nas is the pinnacle of lyricism.
The Heartless Buttface big facts
💯 Nas is the Goat 🐐! Rakim the only nigga that can touch the throne.
Rakim, nas and eminem are the best lyricist
Rakim? Big Daddy Kane? Kool G Rap? Without them, Nas, Eminem, Big Pun would not exist.
Redman the GOAT
J Cole is not even close to Nas
hompalai 💯
hompalai nas is trash
+Ohhthatsmalik 😂😂 you funny
hompalai Elzhi is defenitely this generations nas
No one from this generation is as good as Nas, Jay or 3000, I think what they were trying to say is that they represent the same stuff as nas. NOT that they are on the same lyrical level
Why can't artists be themselves instead of constant comparisons to past greats?
SpottieOttie Facts
Some artists make music thats too similar to their influences, imo Cole makes beats too similar to pre 2008 Kanye and pays too much due to nas and pac, to the point at which id rather just listen to his influences because i feel they already did what he's doing but better imo.
SpottieOttie Hey, shut up.
+southsidenelly i feel, you right on the mark about Cole's influences
SpottieOttie I agree 👍 with you. Too. Much debating this and that. Too many comparisons & it's getting old. Let J. Cole make his mark without over analyzing his work.
As a nas stan Im absolutely down with illmatic being put on a pedestal. Its immaculate. But honestly people need to do the same with it was written. I cant even choose between those two albums after all these years. Illmatic might have been my favorite at first, but then it was written creeps under your skin...tell me the message, shootouts, suspect, street dreams or take it in blood wouldnt have fit on illmatic?
Yo u need to put Stillmatic up there as well. That album has aged very well.
THANK YOU. It Was Written is a masterpiece too in my eyes!
wordup. it was written had songs like "I gave you power" "live nigga rap" "take it in blood" among other high concept tracks.
Illmatic I was boss it was written I flossed one of the most creative lp's ever to hit stores
THIS take right here is where im at rn with nas... i love illmatic and its hit after hit but damn so is it was written.
It was written, GS, Stillmatic, lost tapes ..were classic albums.
Lost tapes is kinda mediocre tho
Illmatic
@@ma-wp8sf Lost Tapes is sick! It was huge when it came out and solidified Nas' comeback after Stillmatic
god son not classic its good but not classic
Include lost tapes 2
"drake is this generation's jay z" i stopped the video there.
👍👍you smart
saaamme Drake don't even compare to HOV whatsoever
God's Son wack ass drake will never be Jay z
well if it isn't drake for this generation... then who is it?
God's Son he doesn't mean Music wise people he means by status which he's not wrong Drake is the most commercial rapper of his time as Jay Z was during his prime
Only hiphopdx where this guy always say lets wrap it up half way through the video lol
#Facts
Nathan Adeleye something like a black church
Totally Dude LMAO
every time he says that i check the time, and am like wtf??
Nathan Adeleye Maybe he means 'Rap it up' as in discuss... Just a thought
Cole is going to inspire a generation of artist but he can never change the game like Nas did. Nas did what Rakim did but to the next level
See what I hate about today's listeners,they never listen to the album. They judge an album or artist by what they hear on the radio. Or they wait for other people to hear it and talk about it then they listen.
Exactly easily influenced !
J Cole is a great rapper, whether he's at Nas's level is up for debate but I don't know how some people can claim he's a bad rapper when 21 Savage is one of the hottest out right now. We're blessed to have Cole and Kendrick right now considering how many trash rappers are popping at the moment. I loved Cole's new album and have been bumping it since it dropped.
Kendrick is FAR SUPERIOR to Cole.
21 Savage has songs that are better than anything Cole has ever made. And that's coming from a guy who grew up in Nas's era
Avidan Novogrodsky-Godt where did I say he wasn't?
tochiRTA are you fucking with me? I even like some of the new school artists but 21 sounds like he took special classes in school and has baby soft bars. FOH 21 is absolute doodoo
HighriseSuicides "No Advance" and "No Heart" are better songs than anything in Cole's discog.
What matters the most is the music. 21 Savage has two better beats than anything Cole has ever put out. 21 doesn't sound as flat on a beat as Cole does. Both J Cole and 21 Savage aint really saying shit. So 21 is the winner.
See how I broke that down? I'm really about this hip hop shit, bruh
j coles album was definitely something risky, that isn't typical Cole this album had an overall theme his other albums had a compilation of messages this one had one recurring story and message. this is a very well executed risk by Jermaine.
King Zay. Not sure what albums you been listening too, his albums have always had an overall theme, fhd being more of a bioptic story. Born sinner documenting how the rap game been changing him. 4 your eyez only is the prototype cole album. he didn't particularly take risk sonically.
King Zay. that being said though, I love it and I'll continue to bump it for a while, I don't think however we should market the album as anything but what it is. A cole album.
facts
E MC HAMMER lol you don't know what mediocre is boi. fuck out my replies
King Zay. How exactly was it risky?
J Cole is J Cole
Nas is Nas
Tupac is Tupac
stop comparing!
Alex R shut the fuck up already.
This is hip-hop,its competitive,people will compare forever.
If you don't like it go listen to Justin Bieber.
True tall
@@notmyrealnamep9218 you may talk shit but justin bieber is the greatest rapper of all time
Notmyrealname :p I was like, facts facts. Until you made that dumbass Bieber line. Fool tf is that roast.💀
Nas still had other classics and masterpieces like It Was Written, Stillmatic, God's Son, And Life Is Good
if he's Nas without illmatic.....how is he Nas? FOH B
MerkSickly Nas does have a shitty album at the same time
VidzTheWatcher that was fhd
IMO Illmatic wasn't Nas' best album. It Was Written is my favorite.
That's a stupid question. The answer u asking was in his statement
nicholas Akubariki it's more like the Nas without illmatic statement is what's really stupid
how can future be this generations Lil Wayne if Lil Wayne is our Lil Wayne lmao. Carter came out when I was in 8th grade. that was OUR classic. not 90s magic.
Wayne is 00's, Future 10's
Patrick Griffin not as popular. The game isn't even in the same position right now to compare that accurately.
Sonny Q lil wayne always fucking sucked and Future fucking sucks too
I'm not talking popularity and that's only one factor anyway ,I'm saying Wayne represents the 00's an Future the 10's his work ethic is similar..he definitely took some Wayne's musical traits..they both went from being not that respected to respected as artist(future less so) it's not apples to apples but does everything need to be...no
Tyrese Fisher nah he doesn't bruh this man went hard on his mixtapes and the carters
I heard him start with Drake is this generation's Jay Z and I didn't want to hear another word of what he had to say.
Ong
Nas is still amazing without Illmatic, but he is better with that album
never compare future to wayne. has future even had a shred of lyricism in his career? huge L.
jp kinsella there was that one time where he said: *mumble noise 1* "yeah" *mumble noise 2*
Inspirational.
Official DMC lmao
jp kinsella future is pretty good but yeah hes no wayne
Has Wayne? Lmaoooo
AblazeSky I literally can't believe it either. How can you be a rap fan and not acknowledge him? And you know what's crazy? Their favorite rapper has Wayne up on a pedestal
When Future rules the rap game like wayne did, when he sells 1.5 mil in a week ,only then you can compare him to wayne.
not sure about that one. the rules are different now. The point was that Future went on a tear of new music unseen since Weezy.
HipHopDX the songs weren't the same quality tho
Those numbers don't exist anymore
Ninad Ganore wayne and future both fucking suck
***** i just said what i said jst bcz comparing future to wayne felt like an insult to wayne. Love your videos btw !
"when was being hip hop not enough?"
this question is going to be important for a long time.
J. Cole is my new favorite artist but never compare him to Nasir Jones catalog. It's funny how everyone praise Illmatic as they should but It Was Written is what I became after hearing Illmatic. Meaning true Nas fans grew with him on every album....How dare you say I Am isn't talked about. I Am was supposed be a double album but because of heavy bootleg it wasn't. Name a wack bar on I AM. Here I'll give you a bar that sum you up.."Do not speak to fools; they scorn the wisdom of your words" - Nas "Ghetto Prisoners - I AM"
I AM is my personal classic. The features alone made me buy the album.
It was written is underrated af
Nas Catalog is underrated...i hate it when everybody give credit to illmatic album only😕
@@mancimalimela5530 hell yes, i loved all of his projects!
@@mancimalimela5530 extremely even untitled and distant relatives. Nas is the only rapper that gets knocked for not making outright classics
LMAOOO more like Nas without Illmatic, It Was Written, Lost Tapes or Stillmatic
lol, Untitled too. Why not throw Distant Relatives in there.
jj watt and life is good... lol this video is a reach
gdiggedy9 all classics too which is crazy. nas got so many classics it's crazy.
Shit even God's Son
gods son was stillmatic level too. shit i am was a good follow up to it was written too
hold on I know this man didn't just say future was this generation Lil wayne........naw son not even close
Exactly
Forreal tho. I'm not even the biggest Wayne fan, but I recognize that the dude has or at leas HAD real lyrical skills. Listen to the Carter 2,3 and you see that Wayne really had bars to back up his eccentric personality and style. Future is just a trap rapper with some trendy beats and dreads imho.
Tha Carter 04 - No Ceilings 09 Wayne had nothing but classics for 5 years
+AuraMaster Gillie Da Kidd wrote some of that shit
Son thinkin this is a direct comparison of them...i think his comparing they work ethic not there lyrics. Future was dropping mixtape...after mixtape last year into this year...hopiing mostly everyone tracks as i feature...or uncredited vocals.
WHO DOES THAT REMIND YOU OF???
I was born in 2000 and as far as I can remember I've always heard lil wayne I feel like he's part of ours more than the 90s
Don't compare those 2...I like J Cole a lot, he's dope...but there will never be another Nas..
Cole is wayyyyyy better than Nas.
San Holo u joking?
I think people are trying to bring Nas down just because he won’t make those type of JayZ club songs
Cole is almost the GOAT
Z V u mad? Actually listen to nas and listen to the lyrics and then give me an opinion
J Cole is great but he'll never be Nas.
Also I Am is one of my fav Nas albums.
J. Silva Nas did pass him the torch though
Troy Cummings yeah
Troy Cummings wat torch? Jay-Z been had the crown Nas even said it
Legacy
Cole will never be Nas. Nas has more than one classic album. Cole is still searching for his first one FOUR ALBUMS IN. Nas already had 2 at that point in his career.
Cole Lamar don't forget that Cole is already 31, married and a father. clock is ticking
Cole Lamar Fiday Night Lights is his only classic imo.
0dd daK1D FNL is indeed a classic..however, as great as it is, the warmup is even a Lil better overall. So. Also a classic
Nah... it was written is considered a classic now. Not in Nas' first 7 years.
The Warm Up and FNL aren't albums. Those are mixtapes. Coles album making has never reached the heights of his early mixtapes. There's quite a few rappers like that. There's an entirely different pressure making an album compared to a mixtape. Cole folding on Sideline Story by putting on that Workout joint is a perfect example of caving into pressure of a major record label.
Future never dropped anything near as good as Drought 3, Carter 2, or Dedication 2...please stop the fuckery that boy will never reach Prime Weezy level
2Coo 2kJunky
real shit. wayne is a legend. future isn't a lyricist like wayne
2Coo 2kJunky
check my music out sometime tho. I got a few songs on here. subscribe!
future will never ever have a dedication 2 magnatude project in his catalog, you the real mvp for realizing that
6:33 "Alright, let's wrap this up"
*still has half the video left*
I'm a J. Cole fan but no, he's no where near Nas' level in terms of rapping.
This had nothing to do with his rapping skills, if you watched the video at all he explains why he is much like Nas.
Facts.
David Camino Str8 Faax this nigga compared to Nas is like a spec of dust in space
Julio Rayo if nas has 1 good album the j cole has all trash albums, stfu if you dont listen to nas
Julio Rayo Yeah I like some cole songs. Most of the time he bores me with his corny lines, bad beats, and safe albums with messages that he spells out for me. I think him working with kendrick will help him make a great album. but he can't be compared to nas. Come on bro, cole has FHD, friday night lights, born sinner. Illmatic is WAY above all of them. It Was Written is around the same level of illmatic too. Stillmatic and Gods son are just below that as well. NO ONE will tell you cole is even close to nas lyrically
Drake the new Jay Z? Lmao Jay Z is like 100x a more talented RAPPER than Drake
"Future is deff this generations lilwayne" - I've never felt so disrespected
J cole and kendrick are the only hope for mainstream rappers
scar face Joyner and logic are dope to
@@gooeylemur2859 nah
Cole aint on Kendricks level those lets be serious
@@lewishurley5591 Agreed ❤️
YBN Cordae (He only goes by Cordae) is this generations hip hop savior. Nobody is fucking with him.
I really never hated a J Cole song, yhea he some times drop something that feels lazy and who artist never dropped something like that? I rather embrace Rappers like Cole instead of 21 Savage or Young Thug
Say What Again i Dare you i Double Dare you! The only thing I don't like what j Cole does is sample too much songs and I remember one song from 2014 had the sample of Mob Deep Giving up the goods. Now selling that songs sample for his own? I know sampling is common and important in rap/ hip hop legacy but if I hear someone who does it too much then I consider them unoriginal. Especially sampling from great rappers but that's my own problem so I doubt any of you guys.
Puggernaut TrillTraks Eh.....I really don't mind that maybe because I love Old Kanye and he also used to sample almost every song
I don't even care if there's samples if it sounds good. Y'all think too much of it
Just out of curiosity which songs sound 'Lazy'. The reason I prefer someone like J Cole to someone like Drake is because Drake seems to value quantity over quality, something he can do because he breaks records in his sleep. Not that I hate drake, but the fact that Views went 4x platinum is pretty amazing considering how tepid the album is overall.
"Nas without Illmatic"
I love Nas, but the big name producers like Rock and Preemo had a lot to do with that album as well, remember Cole produces his own albums
Doesn't matter if Cole produces his own albums. Nobody in the mainstream or underground are lining up to get beats from Cole. That says something.
MrKing8050 who gives a shit if he produces his own music if it doesn't sound good? I love Cole but y'all have to stop acting like Cole can do Jo wrong.
It probably says he ain't selling cause he wants them for himself!
gdiggedy9 he really needs to stop producing all of his own music. It's leading to the same sound on all his stuff. Cole is dope, but he's seriously limiting himself as an artist. And the no features thing is even worse. Why wouldn't you want to make great art with your peers?
+Rooney fully agree. Being from North Carolina, how has Cole not rapped over a 9th Wonder beat yet? As a producer he aspired to be like Kanye West. Kanye has produced for everybody! Nobody wants beats from Cole for good reason. And the no features thing hurts him I feel. To neutral fans Cole is seen as being bland and lacking charisma. The right features would make his songs even better and add life to them.
Coles the only rapper that ever made me look into myself and self reflect, opened my eyes to alot of things and thats why hes my favorite
Bullshit, "The world is yours" video had Nas in a Scarface theme in 94, "Fast life" video with G.Rap ft. Nas was Mafioso in 95 and AZ's "doe or die " album ft. Nas came out in 95 was on some Don shit and was all classics a yr before "It was written" dropped in 96. So if you really wanna get technical, Nas was on that shit before Big and Jay. I think they really took his style and ran with it to be honest. There's actually a video of Big and Nas freestyling and their chorus is called the "goodfellas" est. time early 95. Why do you think Pac called Nas "the ring leader" on that "Realest shit I ever wrote" track?
I think Nas's "It was written" is actually on par with Jay's "reasonable doubt" and Big's "ready to die" (all 3 Classics).
And though I dont agree, I know many people who say that Nas's "I Am" is a classic album (4 out of 5 star album imo). But since the common opinion is Nastrodamas was Nas's worst album back in 99', Jay took it to his advantage when they battled 2 yrs later and said the infamous "1 hot album every 10 yr average" line and people for some reason took that quote and ran with it, when it's actually far from the truth. Because all those albums went platinum when you look back.
So know your hiphop history homie!! Jay wanted Nas's spot for being "most lyrical", that's why he went out his way to try and discredit his work to glorify himself.
But it all came back and backfired on Jay because people knew what he was trying to do! Which was the real reason he lost the battle. It wasn't just about which song was better, it was was also about Jay trying to erase Nas's legacy. And the people saw it clearly from a mile away lmao!
P.S J. Cole is dope too btw!!
Why compare any rappers? Why can't they be individuals? J. Cole is not Pac of this generation, he's not the Nas of this genetation, J. COLE is the J. COLE of this generation.
W
So corny
U really thought this was it huh slim?
Drake is not similar to Jay-z at all.. Hov writes his own barss (in his head).. Drake never lived that street life and put it in music like hov.. and Drake will NEVER BE A TOP TIER MC!!!
Yung Stat He means career wise
Troy Cummings even so, drake dont have a classic album.. to me
He doesnt have a classic album at all. The fans say Take Care, but half of that was the weekend, and an R&B album. On paper with accomplishments though. Its close
He doesnt have a classic album at all. The fans say Take Care, but half of that was the weekend, and an R&B album. On paper with accomplishments though. Its close
Troy Cummings exactly no classics for Drake , hov got at least 3.. RD, BP, Black Album
there is a difference between a great storyteller and a great lyricist. cole is not a great lyricist, but he is still a good storyteller. nas is both
Double Deezle 100% Agree
MoralNihilist double entendres, one liners that make you repeat the track and make you go "oh shit he did that."
Ok, have yall heard KOD? High For Hours? Maybe not his best but damn, he can be a lyricist
lyricist is an umbrella term, where story telling and wordplay falls under But by your definition cole isn't, in crunch time he says 'I told my sister as i kissed her cheek I'm better off dead, cause fucking with this white has all been down hill like a sled' now thats a triple entendre. no disrespect music is all subjective.
have you not listened to born sinner how is he not a good lyricist, this comment makes 0 sense
I really like J. Coles songs, but I have to admit that he sometimes has really corny lines.
Drake is also a bit corny.
The guy been said he can't help himself.
@@Irfantarar432 drake is very corny
I Disagree on that future is this generations lil wayne. Both do lean. But wayne can rap
Troy Cummings future can rap
Not very well. Wayne is a goat lyrically. The best ive seen from future is that tell em its a homicide
Listen to Lil Wayne Fly in, Carter 2, Fly Out, then tell me if future can do something like that...
Yeah rap Gillie Da Kid's rhymes
at some point in history, just like future im sure
J COLE is the prime example of no matter how many people dislike you or constantly hate on you..... you can still be highly successful in the field of talent your great in by believing within yourself.... that's why I have so much respect for this man he's humble, bold & a great story teller thru voice not only do he make you understand the meaning but he also puts you in a place where you can 100% visualize the moment and scene he's actually talking about as if your the one watching it all go down
Can't appreciate 4 Your Eyez Only if you truly can't relate. Wasn't made for everybody , as the name implies.
Hard to listen to an albim that puts you to sleep
Fuck yes! Exactly what I say because to me 4 Your Eyez only is an insane album
Jcole is much more like Common than Nas.
Yeah I definitely see that.
Machine Xp Great lyricist speaks on great issues very conscious. Nas makes a lot of street music actually it's just great lyricism so people don't always realize it. Cole don't make street music.
That is a PERFECT comparison! A conscious rapper who is well respected by all but doesn't have a game-changing-Classic album to put him in that top tier of GOAT rappers.
Cole Lamar I have always said this Cole reminds me of Common. The Nas comparison doesn't match because of the album quality and he doesn't make street music. Nas is such a lyricist you forget a lot of his lyrics are geared to street things(drugs, guns, money) but he's such a lyrical genius and his music has so much substance you forget. Now he does make conscious songs but illmatic and it was written were very much geared to the streets.
I agree with this comparison as well... however, I would say that Common has at least three albums that I would consider classic or near classic. Like Water for Chocolate, Be, and Finding Forever are pretty dope albums. Definitely better than any "album" Cole has dropped thus far.
Drake has no inspiration or substance in his music only rap cocky about his success and heartbreak and blind to whatever real issues plagues the world not legendary at alll he's very iconic for his selling accomplishments in MUSIC (he's not just a rapper ppl get this confused) alot of his overall success weight on the pop music he puts out but just popular, speaks proper ..looks white but he black but can flow over beats with a perfect image with the whole of Canada behind him and US riding it.
Israel Mcclean you could say drakes bascislly jay z after the black album , as jay z's just been spitting the same verse for a decade
Drake didn't grow up with those issues so let him be him and people like Kendrick and Cole can talk about the issues they grew up with. If drake talked about issues he didn't go through that would be fake.
Doawwn Bruhh So Drake had to grow up poor or struggling to see the current issues of today?
Israel Mcclean to have an experienced and insightful point of view on it like Cole and Kdot yea
Doawwn Bruhh Oh cool cool I thought he started from the bottom.
There will never be an Eminem of this generation. EVER!!!!!
Zaghir That's because Eminem won't stop unfortunately. I mean that in a bad way too. He has not been the same since he went on that hiatus after Curtain Call. Rap God and Marshall Mathers LP2 pale in comparison to his 96-04 shit
Who gives a shit. imo there's not a nas of this generation either
It's because he's 40 and sober.
I guess as a recovering addict I can continue the Eminem journey.
what about Hopsin?
Lee Crowther hahaha you serious?
Kool G Rap started Mafioso rap in the 80's and then it got revived around '95 with Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, 4,5,6, and Do or Die which Nas appeared on all 3
I feel like Nas and Cole are 2 artists worth comparing. not because the flows are the same or that there message is the same, but because they can both make songs that make grown men have to sit back and analyze the emotions running through them while they listen.
Im a pretty big Cole fan and I felt this last album. The tracks were mellow and there was alot of heart and feelings in them. I liked it, I bumped it, and theres a few songs I'll keep bumping. However, I feel like I will be playing FHD way longer. I appreciate the new album but it wasn't as much fire as it was worked out to be and thats ok.
Jose Hernandez fosho
Jose Hernandez Real Shit! He should have left "False Prophets " & "Everybody Dies" on the album... very disappointed
Jose Hernandez FHD is my favorite album. It gets better with each listen too
teetrinity4153 yeah I feel ya. No disrespect to Cole. But I feel like he held back. False prophets seemed like a tease. Like a tiny taste of what he can do.
It didn't flow with the rest of the album at all though. These 2 singles felt like Cole made a bit too many songs and thought to use some fire ones for singles since they don't fit the album but still great.
It's sad being a longterm Cole fan and seeing his worst work being the most successful. Nothing will ever top Friday Night Lights. I will consider that Cole's Illmatic because I think that mixtape is that good. Every album he made hasn't even came close.
Harnoor Singh Friday Night Lights is his second worst project. Some dope songs, but alot of bad
Troy Cummings Can't tell if you're trolling because FNL it's hands down his best work along with the Warm Up.
Im not, FHD is the dopest project i've ever heard after listening to all the classics on the genius top 50 album list, and Born Sinner contains so of the best verses ive ever heard. I feel like Warm Up was what the title says. Cole world was bad, and friday nights lights just sounded bad. Sonically on nost tracks. Lyrics were bad on a lot of them.
Troy Cummings FNL was the pinnacle of his career. Every song on that thing was fucking perfect, and it was damn near 20 tracks. All rap. FHD was like 5 rap songs that were on that level. You don't get near as much. I've been listening to Cole since 2009 so I've personally seen the downward slope of his music quality. I'd suggest to go back and listen to his old work a few more times if you really don't think they're that good. That was back when he put out real music.
Troy Cummings Plus you look like one of his younger fans. It seems like Cole has 2 different groups of fans, one that's been rocking with him and one that just caught on with FHD. On every one of his albums he's tried to form a deep concept. That's really were he messes up. Leave that to guys like Ab-Soul or Lupe. Cole's conceptual themes are usually why most of his albums are so underwhelming.
Illmatic was a revolutionary album that challenged music as a whole, and took hip-hop down a darker road full of more jazzy, darker beats with lyrics from the darkest streets of New York, rather than more uptempo, speratic beats from the likes of Run DMC and Public Enemy, the pioneers of hip-hop. Public Enemy also came from New York and spoke on their struggles, but Nas was much more dark in his delivery, and his storytelling was much more vivid and personal. Illmatic was nothing ever seen before. It was Ever since that album, however, Nas hasn;t really dared to challenge music the same way, and has released a plethora of albums that are more or less the same. For J Cole to be Nas, he would need to release an album that is different from anything that has ever been released before. J Cole would have to essentially create an entire new genre. Its hard for artists today in the rap game to truly think of something new with so much out there right now, but nonetheless, nothing in J Cole's discography broke ground or started something new. J Cole is a talented songwriter with some good singles, but all of his albums reflected other contemporaries such as Kanye West or Kendrick Lamar, with KOD being trap based for example. While Kendrick Lamar was breaking ground with his entirely jazz orchestrated TPAB, in which he tells this story in the form of a fragmented poem, that is tied together in the finally in a way that has never been done before, and Kanye West created Yeezus, an abrassive, violent album that pushed the underground movement of industrial hip-hop by blending it with hard trap and electronic music, J Cole really had nothing new or ground breaking -something never been done before. Nonetheless, hip-hop comparisons are a curse anyways, because to expect an artist to replicate or follow the footsteps of another is to expect them to remain static, and to make the genre fade out of boredom rather than keeping it moving and progressing.
I feel like Logic is the new Eminem without MM LP
And Vince Staples is the new Tupac with the constant references to life in the hood
@@dirtysupreme *cordae
J Cole is the greatest J Cole, Nas is the greatest Nas. Damn, who would have known?
I'm sorry but all these comparisons are off lol
Bedcorn how? Jay Z was a hit machine, so is Drake. Kendrick and Andre both are extremely innovative. And he explained Cole and Nas similarities
Benjamin Blackwell Jay Z wrote is rhymes and they are good, Drake gets his wrote by ghost writers and his music trash
Every single one of them
Trillmxtic Jay is a biter tho Camron already proved it.
+Benjamin Blackwell
Drake comes to the studio, listens to the reference track made by PartyNextDoor or something, gets the lyrics handed to him, and goes in the recording boot and replicates the song.
Jay-Z comes to the studio, listens to a variety of beats, chooses the one he likes, goes in the recording studio and spits lyrics on the spot, no notepad no nothing.
Far from Nas in my opinion.
Still dope though and I would support
Far ahead of nas
6:36 "Alright, lets wrap this up..."
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Way too much singing on this one. That's not a bad thing if you're a good singer. Cole isn't though.
Serge M-S Exactly! I don't like that slow love shit! 10 fuckin songs and that's all your doing?
Exactly he has a nice raspy voice, he can hold a note but him singing for 3/4 of an album that is so short its bad.
J Cole is lyrically nothing like Nas
6:30 Says "Let's rap this up" and still talked for 6 more minutes.
Wayne is this generations Wayne , Hes 34 , 4yrs older than Drake and more successful at this point that Jay was . Future is 33 yrs old . Fam! #sitdown
I like J. Cole , but he is NOOOOOOO Nas. Nas can be the outside looking in AND inside looking out at the same time.
Yeah Cole has never made a classic like Nas
Avidan Novogrodsky-Godt Friday Night Lights is a classic though
+TheEnFamous true
N Oz Nas was way better then j cole. cole is ok but hell no
That wall of classics in the back is impressive
Nas is the GOAT
✌ It Was Written was ABSOLUTE 🔥!!!
I just had an argument wit my friend about J Cole, Mainstream rappers and underrated rappers. You know he was telling me about how J Cole is so unique about what he raps about in every one of his albums and how mainstream rappers just rap about bitches and money blah blah blah. I told him that a lot of J cole's fans act like he's the first one to rap about these topics when these topics were rapped about decades ago tracing back to the late 70's early 80's. What is Unique bout J. Cole is his own personal life because everyone's life is unique and special in their own way. Now he said J Cole is part of a select few of rappers who rap about these topics and such. I told him that is not true there are many other rappers who can certainly be on J cole's level when it comes to MC'ing and rapping deeply and lyrically. Just look at AZ featured on Illmatic and is still considered one of the most underrated rappers today. I told him many many rappers are just too underrated, too unknown when they SHOULD BE KNOWN. The truth is you just gotta look for them and get em known really. As for Mainstream rappers stop getting pissed off about their success if you're mad about their mainstream success blame the mainstream audience not the rapper they're just gonna keep doing what their doing. And that's my Breakdown
Future the Lil Wayne of this generation? Wut
yeah that made me numb how can he said future is the wayne of this generation ,Wayne is one of a kind with crazy word play and Future mumble ass can't even talk
lil wayne is fucking garbage
Đạt Lý Wayne is shit
a garbage that is still revelant after more than 20+ in the rap game got every rapper in the game respect and make millions every years i would like to be like him tbh
stevenjm12 shit your dumbass up. Prime Wayne rapping circles around your favorite bum ass rapper
still listen to it was written every day
Joey Bada$$ is the Nas
J. Cole is the Common
Joey badass is like the new Big L
I hate these J Cole and Nas comparisons. Nas is much better in every possible way.
Cole & Nas do a Album & that would be Lit!
People think that J.Cole is nowhere near Nas lyrically, yet Nas himself approves of his artistry and lyricism. The man is great. Give him his credit.
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Why we are still giving J. Cole a chance? He just a average lyricist with above average production. He's just a relatable rapper. That's it.
Ghost average lyricist? What? smh have you even listened to his music? if you don't like J.Cole then who do you like? Damn, I know Hip-Hop is s art and there is no such thing as "real hip hop" but calling J.Cole average wow. BTW Tupac is overrated.
Ghost completely agree. He's a better than average lyricist tho lmao
i agree
J Cole is very reminiscent of Nas in the 90s. Cole does most of his production and it never sounds like its overly produced or like he's trying to do "Drake". He's a great rapper...and no Pac isn't overrated at all. He's the greatest hip hop artist. As far as lyricism I'd prolly go With Big, Nas or Rakim
Rick Harding i respect your opinion and for the most part I agree with it but I'm wondering are you one of those people who hasn't listened to Tupac just listen to everyone else and thinks he's the goat or have you actually formed your own on Tupac
I like it was written more than illmatic
Victor Gonzalez same
Victor Gonzalez I gave you power was the one thing that puts it up with illmativ
Troy Cummings what?! If I ruled the world , the message , take it in blood. Affirmative action smh
Those are good tracks. None of them mess with NY state of mind or it aint hard to tell. None hold a candle to lifes a bitch.
Me too better beats more street.
none of j coles music is trash his music is so damn fire that caused a wildfire 🔥
Forest Hills Drive is the movie equivalent of anything by Stanley Kubrick. It will be remembered fondly in the years to come and eventually be given the status of a classic.
I feel the same way about Cole himself, it's far too early to call him a legend. However his lyrics, his principles, his passion and most importantly his consistency will be appreciated once he hangs up the mic.
A future legend for sure.
No rap artist from back then can be compared to rap artists of now same goes if u try to compare legends from the 90s to legends of the 80s and so on.
Nas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jay-z
About Nas: I'd say that making an album covering pretty much what's going on on different fronts in mainstream rap at the time IN ONE ALBUM is still pretty innovative, not just trend hopping. He didn't make a 2pac album, he didn't make a Jay-Z album, he made an album that paints a picture of the time and what goes on in rap around him. To me that shows an enormous amount of skill and versitility.
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j. cole doesnt have a great album, nas has multiple classics
baghel forest hills drive is a classic in my eyes not a wack song on it
Forest hills and Friday night are easy classics. Time will tell if 4 Your eyez only is a classic or not. Nas has a couple of bad projects tho, Cole has none.
Nas definitely > Cole, Cole has a way to go tho.
baghel FHD is a classic
FHD and 4youreyezonly is cole's best work to date
Forest is drive is far from being a classic
J.Cole hit his prime with this album
I would include Born sinner and 2014FHD in his prime too.
SuperSaiyan730 No not Born Sinner, it didn't feel it was as complete or heartfelt. But maybe 2014 FHD
Naaaaaah, Justin, I'm a Gen X'er and I am all about Cole. That youngster spits knowledge. Very refreshing and very uplifting!
Lil Wayne is this generation's Lil Wayne. Dude is only like 35. Once he gets out of the legal shit with Birdman, we'll see the resurrection of weezy. Mark my words.
And Drake don't own no fucking sports franchise. He is a "brand ambassador". stop lying to the people.
Tom Wavy he ain't rich enough but he's a bigger part of the Raptors than any owner
Tom Wavy Jay had shares in teams, never fully owned anything
Which means he wasn't an owner. just a stake holder. a minority one at that.
dope ass comparisons bro.
I love J. Cole and there is a real reason when his fans adore him so much. He’s so authentic and his fans will do anything to support him. I rather have 500,000 adoring fans like he does than a few million “fans” that are simply victims to my marketing. He’s really good and still getting better. He knows he’s not perfect, isn’t scared to show it, and grows and progresses like a good man does.
I died when he said Drake is Jay z
J Cole have yet to have a classic under his belt
nas my fav rapper of all time but even he didnt have more than 1 classic. it was written was just below classic, and perhaps stillmatic. then god's son, then it gradually goes lower and lower till you hit nastradamus. cole's FH Drive 2014 is on the same level as 'it was written' in my opinion. but long and short, youre right, i would say cole lacks his own version of 'illmatic'
I realised hip hop dx doesn't have a lot of love for Nas, they never mention him in the goat categories, whether it's his discography or singles
I'm as a loss as to why? He has flow, lyrics, content, versatility to be able to rap about any topic, over any beat (or acapella) that is only matched by 2pac, Scarface and Em. plus he's very consistent and commercially viable, innovative (no one has a better collection of concept songs than him)
Drake lyrically is nowhere near Jay z in his prime ... Cole is dope but he's no Nas in anyway .... Cole could never write a Illmatic or IWW ... until Cole makes a " I Gave You Power ... ..
Lost Ones, Mo Money (Interlude), Lights Please, Dreams, Power Trip are all storytelling songs using physical metaphors.
Also Forbidden Fruit and Chaining Day
Hideotic all good songs but lyrically... still not touching Nas
Hideotic Nas Album Done literally blows every song outta the water in this past year .... and thats being nice
Realnigga Turner lol how? it was a good song but blew everything else out of the water?
*J cole is Tupac*
*Kendrick is Biggie smalls*
J cole makes music that hits the soul and relates so well with everybody like Tupac
Kendrick is so skill and versatile like biggie
"Oh you went platinum, yeah that's nice
now let me see you do the same thing twice,
three times, four times and a couple of more times"