Funny how a few minutes earlier the king complains about brigands in the desert as if they're a huge dangerous deal as bad as any other types of robbers but it turns out...they actually _are_ loyal border guards and simply can't understand his _written_ instructions. You'd think King Nod would be more understanding of the illiterate, given that Muhammad himself was one and it was fairly common in ancient Arabia. All they needed was a representative of the King to show up in person and give _verbal_ orders.
It may have been because of edits Fred Calvert made when hastily finishing the film, cause i'm pretty sure this plot hole didn't exist in the workprint by Richard Williams.
@@spmscout The original Richard Williams workprint had an _even bigger_ plothole, because there's no explanation of why the brigands wouldn't just rob the princess and the cobbler after overwhelming the nurse. There was no implication that the brigands were affiliated with King Nod; the opposite was implied because King Nod explicitly warned to be wary of the brigands. Calvert at least rationalised it by explaining that the brigands were trying to obey the king and just not able to understand what he wanted. It doesn't make much sense, but it makes more sense than a group of criminals randomly deciding to follow instructions from the daughter of a king that hates them. So don't blame Calvert for the awkward rationalisation, blame Williams for not writing a coherent plot in the first place. Richard Williams was an incredible animator, storyboarder, and concept artist; but an utterly incompetent narrative writer. He had a great artistic vision, and he got screwed over by corporate politics, but he also deserves at least part of the blame for the failure to complete _The Thief and the Cobbler_ due to his inflexibility and arrogance. I really think Calvert gets way too much hate. He isn't a savant like Williams, but he knows it, and he isn't an idiot either. He at least respected the project and wanted to make it as good as he could with his limited abilities in a limited time frame. Quote - _"I really didn't want to do it, but if I didn't do it, it would have been given off to the lowest bidder. I took it as a way to try and preserve something and at least get the thing on the screen and let it be seen"._ He didn't want it to be given to someone even worse. Considering what he was working with and what he gave us, I think he mostly did a good job.
@@nathangamble125 Not sure what you're talking about, it's not a plot hole at all. The brigands haven't seen a single caravan, let alone a woman, in 30 years; the sight of the princess is enough to stop them in their tracks, at which point the offer of employment sounds mighty appealing to them.
Lyrics: Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school! Sent here twenty years ago by the king to guard his borders We don't know when to return, 'cuz no one here can read his orders Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school! Lately, things have been so bad, there just are no words to tell it And if we should find a word, I'm sure none of us could spell it! We miss our mothers and our fathers It's a painful, sad condition It's hard to tell you just how much 'Cuz we never learned addition Bom bom bom beem bom (x3) So we wait around and scare any traveler passing through here Since we never learned a trade, it's the only thing to do here Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool That's what happens when you don't finish school Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool That's what happens when you don't finish school! That's what happens when you don't finish school! We miss our sisters and our brothers We need some family affection We'd get anywhere to meet them But we've got no sense of direction Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool We're what happens when you don't finish school! Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool!
Of the 4 musical numbers they added into this film, this is probably the only one I consider decent. It has a catchy beat and the instrumental is very jazzy.
In the 40k setting, I can easily see a Slannesh Chaos Warband feeling like they're in a musical play so when they introduce themselves to their enemies, they perform this song.
This is animation's equivalent to Superman saying "Do you bleed?". One of the only good changes a mostly terrible re-edit made. (Henry Cavill’s CGI shave aside)
@@benrobson3442 Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booley Booley Bibbely Bine, we're what happens when you miss the deadline! Bom Bom Beem Bom Booley Booley Bibbely Bine, We're what happens when you miss the deadline! Your animation is master class and is different from all the rest. But, in order to finish the other scenes, let 'em do 'em and hope for the best.
@@thomashuffman3237 when the leads are mute and just too silent. we know what can do the trick. You came for the whole bunch of Monologue, from Jonathan Winters and Matthew Broderick.
@@benrobson3442 bom bom bom beem bom. Bom bom bom beem bom. Bom bom bom beem bom. Since this was from the nineteen nineties, it's only sensical that you take this animated film and make it a musical.
@@thomashuffman3237 Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booely Bibbly Bine, that’s what happens when you miss the deadline Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booely Bibbly Bine, that’s what happens when you miss the deadline No matter how long ya spent perfecting your art, to them, that’s pointlessly funny The only art Hollywood cares about is the quick art of making money!
NGL, this is perhaps the only song in the Majestic/Miramax version that’s passable. The other songs “She Is More” and “Am I Feeling Love?” were just uninspired rehashes of recent Disney songs at the time. Of course the Recobbled cut is still the best version since it was what Richard Williams wanted the movie to be like. He didn’t want it to be a musical, since he already did that with Raggedy Ann and Andy.
I think the other songs where decent if they had better more Disney like animations or something something that makes you go like wow this song and the animation is amazing
I think this song, a few more songs with better animations, Jonathan winters as the thief, the original actors and soundtrack with almost every scene from the recobbled cut mark 5 would be awesome
The movie was in development hell and released in three different versions (at least). The Thief and the Cobbler, which was the original title; the Princess and the Cobbler; and Arabian Knight. Depending on the version, they'll have different lines, different scenes, and different voice-acting. It's rather fascinating to see how many attempts were made to make this thing profitable.
Why is the name "Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, Nom" when that _obviously isn't what is being sung!?_ It's clearly Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, *Bom* , not "Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, Nom"
If that trumpet solo was in the movie then they could’ve animated a scene where one of the guys plays that snake that hangs around the brigands as a trumpet would have been funny
We’re what happens when you miss the deadline.
Don't let your perfectionism get the best out of YOU!
Richard Williams rolling in his grave from that bro
Quite literally
Not completing parts of the film vital to the story while completing overly complex filler scenes is poor management
"When you spend hours perfecting your art, to them, it's pointlessly funny. The only art Hollywood cares about IS THE QUICK ART OF MAKING MONEY!!!"
Funny how a few minutes earlier the king complains about brigands in the desert as if they're a huge dangerous deal as bad as any other types of robbers but it turns out...they actually _are_ loyal border guards and simply can't understand his _written_ instructions. You'd think King Nod would be more understanding of the illiterate, given that Muhammad himself was one and it was fairly common in ancient Arabia.
All they needed was a representative of the King to show up in person and give _verbal_ orders.
It may have been because of edits Fred Calvert made when hastily finishing the film, cause i'm pretty sure this plot hole didn't exist in the workprint by Richard Williams.
@@spmscout The song itself didn't exist in the workprint. The song is my favorite part of the movie though so you win some, you lose some.
It didnt because in the original theyre brigands who havent done anything in 30 years@@spmscout
@@spmscout The original Richard Williams workprint had an _even bigger_ plothole, because there's no explanation of why the brigands wouldn't just rob the princess and the cobbler after overwhelming the nurse. There was no implication that the brigands were affiliated with King Nod; the opposite was implied because King Nod explicitly warned to be wary of the brigands.
Calvert at least rationalised it by explaining that the brigands were trying to obey the king and just not able to understand what he wanted. It doesn't make much sense, but it makes more sense than a group of criminals randomly deciding to follow instructions from the daughter of a king that hates them.
So don't blame Calvert for the awkward rationalisation, blame Williams for not writing a coherent plot in the first place.
Richard Williams was an incredible animator, storyboarder, and concept artist; but an utterly incompetent narrative writer. He had a great artistic vision, and he got screwed over by corporate politics, but he also deserves at least part of the blame for the failure to complete _The Thief and the Cobbler_ due to his inflexibility and arrogance.
I really think Calvert gets way too much hate. He isn't a savant like Williams, but he knows it, and he isn't an idiot either. He at least respected the project and wanted to make it as good as he could with his limited abilities in a limited time frame. Quote - _"I really didn't want to do it, but if I didn't do it, it would have been given off to the lowest bidder. I took it as a way to try and preserve something and at least get the thing on the screen and let it be seen"._ He didn't want it to be given to someone even worse. Considering what he was working with and what he gave us, I think he mostly did a good job.
@@nathangamble125 Not sure what you're talking about, it's not a plot hole at all. The brigands haven't seen a single caravan, let alone a woman, in 30 years; the sight of the princess is enough to stop them in their tracks, at which point the offer of employment sounds mighty appealing to them.
Monty Python vibes
Even though this version of "Thief" is hated, I have a soft spot for the Miramax cut.
Best version out there imo
It's what most of us grew up with.
@@astarteswillum5259 Of course because that was the one widely released on VHS. Used to rent it at the video store all the time.
@@rommix0 I owned it on laserdisc and had the cd.
@@astarteswillum5259 Didn't know it had a laserdisc release. The VHS copy was the most common.
🔥🔥🔥WE MAKING IT OUT THE GOLDEN CITY WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥
I hate that I love this
But there’s truth to this.
Same
I don't know why but i kind of find this song really catchy.
As pointless as the songs are, this one's s a straight up BANGER
Because it IS catchy!
The melody is fun, the lyrics amusing, and the saxophone work is top notch!
Lyrics:
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school!
Sent here twenty years ago by the king to guard his borders
We don't know when to return, 'cuz no one here can read his orders
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school!
Lately, things have been so bad, there just are no words to tell it
And if we should find a word, I'm sure none of us could spell it!
We miss our mothers and our fathers
It's a painful, sad condition
It's hard to tell you just how much
'Cuz we never learned addition
Bom bom bom beem bom (x3)
So we wait around and scare any traveler passing through here
Since we never learned a trade, it's the only thing to do here
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
That's what happens when you don't finish school
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
That's what happens when you don't finish school!
That's what happens when you don't finish school!
We miss our sisters and our brothers
We need some family affection
We'd get anywhere to meet them
But we've got no sense of direction
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool
We're what happens when you don't finish school!
Bom bom bom beem bom boolie boolie bippaly bool!
As someone who didn't finish school I find this offensive! And shockingly accurate...
How's desert life, by the way?
i gotta ask more story please did you get meet by a cobbler and a princess in the desert? did you also become a guard???
I’m gonna be humming this for god knows how long now… it’s too damn catchy!!!
Imagine Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates singing this as an irony
Replace Bill Gates with Elon Musk, Kanye West, and Dave Chapelle I would agree with you.
@@rommix0
The op chose those two because they are college dropouts.
@@MercurySteel Well Kanye West is a dropout of reality. He'd be a better example of a trainwreck who couldn't.
@@MercurySteel Kanye is The College Dropout
Of the 4 musical numbers they added into this film, this is probably the only one I consider decent.
It has a catchy beat and the instrumental is very jazzy.
Exactly if some where to remake the movie again this should be the only song of the four songs to be In it
I kind of feel like the Men singing in the movie are like The Ogres from The Ogre Kingdoms when they got a task from Greasus Goldtooth
In the 40k setting, I can easily see a Slannesh Chaos Warband feeling like they're in a musical play so when they introduce themselves to their enemies, they perform this song.
we ain't getting a diploma with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home
Without Me Everything's All Wrong
This is animation's equivalent to Superman saying "Do you bleed?".
One of the only good changes a mostly terrible re-edit made. (Henry Cavill’s CGI shave aside)
True.
Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booley Booley Bibbely Bine, We're what happens when you miss the deadline!
nearly 30 years you're doing this, and yet we wonder how.
if you never even finished it then, what makes you think you'll finish it now?
@@benrobson3442 Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booley Booley Bibbely Bine, we're what happens when you miss the deadline! Bom Bom Beem Bom Booley Booley Bibbely Bine, We're what happens when you miss the deadline! Your animation is master class and is different from all the rest. But, in order to finish the other scenes, let 'em do 'em and hope for the best.
@@thomashuffman3237 when the leads are mute and just too silent. we know what can do the trick. You came for the whole bunch of Monologue, from Jonathan Winters and Matthew Broderick.
@@benrobson3442 bom bom bom beem bom. Bom bom bom beem bom. Bom bom bom beem bom. Since this was from the nineteen nineties, it's only sensical that you take this animated film and make it a musical.
@@thomashuffman3237 Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booely Bibbly Bine, that’s what happens when you miss the deadline
Bom Bom Bom Beem Bom Booely Bibbly Bine, that’s what happens when you miss the deadline
No matter how long ya spent perfecting your art, to them, that’s pointlessly funny
The only art Hollywood cares about is the quick art of making money!
i love this song
The little chorus at 1:40 just fucken hits
This is just a random song that came out of nowhere.
🤨😒Is the song actually titled "We're What Happened When Don't Finish School"? 🤔🧐
Are you able to read? Yes thats the title
@@Kiroisawesome05 Lyrics say "We're what happens when you don't finish school", video title is "we're what happens when you don't **go** to school"
@@Kiroisawesome05 if they knew they wouldn't be asking...
Not in the soundtrack listing it's not. It's actually called "Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, Bom"
I love this song. But originally these guys didn't work for the king
Just Like Les Mis.
what exactly?
@@scoutart1508 That's just what Jonathan Winters' Thief said in his mind after the brigands sang the song.
Actually he said “Just like I miss.”
The official theme song of Onlyfans models and TikTok influencers.
I love how they apparently never finished school and somehow their reasoning skill is better than most college graduates
i agree
Wisdom, but no intelligence.
NGL, this is perhaps the only song in the Majestic/Miramax version that’s passable. The other songs “She Is More” and “Am I Feeling Love?” were just uninspired rehashes of recent Disney songs at the time. Of course the Recobbled cut is still the best version since it was what Richard Williams wanted the movie to be like. He didn’t want it to be a musical, since he already did that with Raggedy Ann and Andy.
I think the other songs where decent if they had better more Disney like animations or something something that makes you go like wow this song and the animation is amazing
I think this song, a few more songs with better animations, Jonathan winters as the thief, the original actors and soundtrack with almost every scene from the recobbled cut mark 5 would be awesome
Good song
This is a good song and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
Why is this song so good? Somebody help me to stop... :(
At 1:02 it sounds like Wacko Warner from Animainiacs, or is it just me hearing that?
Given that Wacko's voice is an impression of all 4 Beatles at once, no, I don't think it's just you.
What genre is this and why does it make my head bob
Cool 😎 song 💞💞😹
Where did you get this higher def quality version of the song?
from the soundtrack of the movie sent by someone. it was never released on youtube so i figured to do so
@@3GoldBalls where can I find the official soundtrack?
@@grimoireweiss6428 the cd of the movie, it has never been released on streaming or digital platforms. that’s why it’s on here
I love this!
Moral of the song: If you kids don’t finish school, a group of creepy guys from the desert will take you away and turn you into them
So what is the movie called, The Thief and the Cobbler, or Arabian Knight?
Both Actually, it depends on where the movie was distributed(I think)
The movie was in development hell and released in three different versions (at least). The Thief and the Cobbler, which was the original title; the Princess and the Cobbler; and Arabian Knight. Depending on the version, they'll have different lines, different scenes, and different voice-acting. It's rather fascinating to see how many attempts were made to make this thing profitable.
Why is the name "Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, Nom" when that _obviously isn't what is being sung!?_
It's clearly Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, *Bom* , not "Bom, Bom, Bom, Beem, Nom"
The movie may be a big mess but the animation is amazing and this song is a bop
Why do I love this so much?
Nick Jameson?
On tonight's episode of "What the actual heck am I watching/doing with my life?":
Was the whole song used in the Arabian knights
If that trumpet solo was in the movie then they could’ve animated a scene where one of the guys plays that snake that hangs around the brigands as a trumpet would have been funny
Like at 1:42 some brigand could use the snake as a trumpet for a comedic effect
What instrument is played in 1:11
“Just like Les Mis!”
Play this song over a compilation of Offensive Idiot memes.
overwatch player anthem
best song of the movie really lol
🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
At 1:47 you can kinda hear a “shut up”
it ain't half hot mum vibe
Is Tod the Arabian cobbler and Vixey the Arabian Princess?
Are there the lyrics?