I guess event claymore's passive is not related to melusines in story quest and means activities in event for exchange to refinement items. So it just means exact number in the description on a certain rank
I'm trying to pick a good 4th for Bennet-Navia-???-Ningguang. I've thought about the possibility of using Sara and buffing the others' attack even more, but am unsure if the crystalize shields will provide enough interruption resistance to make the whole thing come together. I'd really like a character who can hold tenacity and still deal damage, and think Layla MIGHT be the right pick.
Navia Zhongli (shield, shred def, geo resonant) Bennet and Yanfi with Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers weapon (pyro resonant 25% ATK and the weapon gives the active swap character (navia) 48% ATK on R5
Layla could work pretty well if you don't have zhongli since she also applies off field cryo, the crystallize shields will probably only take 1 or 2 hits before breaking. I don't have an answer ready for your question but I'll be sure to answer it in my upcoming guide.
@@cursey7304 She's another geo character who scales exclusively off of attack, has very short cooldowns with high damage, and on-demand geo attacks that can trigger crystalize.
You marked serpent spine as 5 star btw, and are those stats for R1 or R5 ss? Seems too high for just R1. But man those charts just show how few good claymores Hoyo has released. Literally went 3 years with no 5 star ATK scaling weapon with Crit substat... until now.
Mb I just noticed, they're all R1. It's so high up because it's at max stacks, if you use serpent spine in the abyss for example, you can just wait to get all stacks then start.
It is better without Bennett. The more of one thing you have (for example attack in our case) the less effective it becomes, so with Bennett you will be stacking more attack, making Wolf's gravestone a bit worse in damage compared to weapon's that increases crit or DMG%. Even with Bennett it's a decent weapon.
Will Skyward Pride work with her? I consider to get her weapon or try it at least one time cause I heard Ayaka will be paired with her. Also the 4.3 event sword is a bit confusing. Will there be a event we help the Melusine in Order to get refinement or we need to help them in overworld world quests?
I'm not 100% sure, we'll have to wait until its a bit more clear. But I assumed 2 melusines helped, and with 2 it's already one of the best weapons for Navia.
We already now her base stats and multipliers, using all these numbers with theoretical artifacts (set bonus included, all rolls are using KQM standard) you can find how much damage a specific weapon gives you for a certain talent. I combined her kit to get this damage number. The numbers you see here should be around 40% higher for all weapons, and all of this is without considering team buffs. Search Genshin damage formula if your interested.
The best option out of these would be Navia Furina Bennett and a second geo for the geo resonance, Zhongli Alebdo Ningguang or even Noelle can fit the team.
@@MistsplitterReforged I never thought of Noelle, but you're right, since Navia can be a sub dps and Noelle can be switched even with the burst on. It also solves the healing problem that's bothering me, while balancing the buff and the overall dmg of the whole party to maximize fanfare buff. I also mained Noelle in the beginning of the game, kinda nostalgic.
it is not a good idea to build marecheussee hunter on Navia at all it's not worth restricting her to Furina, who works even better in other teams, for a literal 1% more damage
Just curious, If I would start fresh, how many wishes could I gather before her banner ? I want her and her signature weapon, maybe some constellations if I'm lucky.
No you're not getting any constellations or a signature weapon starting this late. Maybe you can get her since her banner is in 30 days and lasts 20 days so thats an entire 50 days.
You could save for 2 hard pities if you start fresh in a new account. I tried it once, in a couple of days I was able to get Alhaitham after losing his 50/50. This all depends on how much you want to grind, the 2 hard pities I got were at multiple regions fully explored and at adventure rank 35.
More attack on top of more attack would make the stat more redundant. While you still gain damage, a weapon that increases DMG% would make use of Bennett more. The more you stack a single stat (like ATK), the more you want to focus on other stats.
Nah.....i am ignoring this guide. I will build her like this: Weapon -- Portable Power Saw Artifact set -- 4pc Gilded Dreams HP Atk EM Geo EM ...if i get her...
With Furina around, Navia's HP is always consumed by seafood gang so why Serpent Spine? Is it counted as taken damage? In this case, i suppose the free 4* event weapon is superior.
@@gribberoni lol glad to know as i have R5SS 90 lvl lying around and discarded it at first. However, i am likely to pull for her BIS as it reminded me of Escanor and imo it is one of the best looking 5*weapon in the game.
I still want Navia since I'm a tall character collector but I might have to skip for now. I will pull for the weapon banner though coz it's just too good. Getting the Mistsplitter while aiming for her axe would be nice. My eyes are set on Cloud Retainer now after finding out she has a crowd control that pulls enemies together. I need her utility for my current team.
@@kondoriano4813except all the good geo characters don’t even use geo… The only part of geo that benefits it’s characters is it’s resonance. Everything else is the characters themselves. Geo does not offer anything in terms of reactions, do you realize how big of a problem that is? Look at hyperbloom, melt and vaporize, heck even superconduct. Every element has a reaction that benefits its characters, meanwhile geo characters are forced to pull their own weight. It simply doesn’t make sense how this element’s only reaction is some flimsy shield
@aperson6562 Geo is designed specifically as a neutral element, it's never supposed to be reliant on reactions. You're bitching about damage for a game that has no endgame content besides the easy Spiral Abyss. If you can't even beat that with Geo then it's massive skill issue on your part 🤷🏻♂️
@@kondoriano4813your arguments do not need to be ad hominem, it really only devalues your arguments. Anyway, the basis of my previous argument was that geo characters are able to achieve what they do not because of their element, why regurgitate that in your reply? The whole point of the element system in genshin was to add another layer to the typical roles present in games. Basically every team, even physical, makes use of the elements in some way, so it doesn’t make sense from a design standpoint why geo performs so poorly as an element. It has only one reaction, which is already a problem. But what’s an even bigger problem is, the game rewards you for running geo on its own rather than with other elements( look at geo resonance, and geo characters’ kits in general. This fundamentally prevents you from using the one reaction geo has, not that it would add much benefit. If you still aren’t convinced geo isn’t a bad element, try making any geo unit a different element and see if they wouldn’t be better off.
@aperson6562 "aD HoMInEm" kid it's just a simple fact. If you have such a hard time with Geo then it's straight up a skull issue on your part 💀💀 "Why regurgitate that in your reply" because that's how Geo is designed by nature, it's an element that doesn't rely on reactions at all. You literally said that then still tries to claim it's bad when it'd purposefully designed to be a neutral element. That's literally how it contributes to the game...amazing how you still didn't get that after typing all that bullshit. Geo is perfectly fine as is and it's comps can perfectly clear the Abyss including the one we have now. It's ok if you have skill issue for an easy game with no endgame combat content besides the Abyss, not everyone is good at gaming.
RIP Silver and Melus
I... forgot about them fir one second when I read your comment and I was like " What the duck ? :/"
@@Silver-__- Did you forgot about yourself?! Seems lore accurate to me. JK
I loved them so much ❤
I guess event claymore's passive is not related to melusines in story quest and means activities in event for exchange to refinement items. So it just means exact number in the description on a certain rank
Definitely pulling for her weapon. Its giant axe.
It's Rita from Seven deadly sins.
Really nice guide, quick & simple, The image & chart even make this video even more easy to understand
Thank you, Glad it was helpful!
Well they just buffed her artifact set from 40% geo dmg to 50%. So I guess it’s her best set now.
It should be now, I'll make a separate video on artifacts and hopefully clear that up.
I'm thinking to put Navia with zhongli, bennet and furina 👌
That's one of the teams I'll be sure to cover in her guide.
Why not Barbara with TTDS ? or even Jean (if you ignore the passive stack) bennet is not the best healer to build fanfare :/
@@Kross_Vik That could be viable with the new healing set, I'll talk about the different options in my guide.
You could argue that mona is better than furina since most ofyour dps window is quite tight
Also you can give mona ttds+tom
I'm trying to pick a good 4th for Bennet-Navia-???-Ningguang. I've thought about the possibility of using Sara and buffing the others' attack even more, but am unsure if the crystalize shields will provide enough interruption resistance to make the whole thing come together. I'd really like a character who can hold tenacity and still deal damage, and think Layla MIGHT be the right pick.
Navia Zhongli (shield, shred def, geo resonant) Bennet and Yanfi with Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers weapon (pyro resonant 25% ATK and the weapon gives the active swap character (navia) 48% ATK on R5
Layla could work pretty well if you don't have zhongli since she also applies off field cryo, the crystallize shields will probably only take 1 or 2 hits before breaking. I don't have an answer ready for your question but I'll be sure to answer it in my upcoming guide.
Why ningguang though. Does she synergize with navia?
@@cursey7304 She's another geo character who scales exclusively off of attack, has very short cooldowns with high damage, and on-demand geo attacks that can trigger crystalize.
@@KingWhoShallReturn and 12% geo damage if you pass through her wall
On-field: Albedo, Gorou, Navia + AoE Cryo/Electro/Hydro/Pyro character
Thanks for the help !
Zhongli, Dehya, Raiden and Navia, thats my pro team.
Me too but with shenhe not dehya haha
At long last. Somebody I can give the Unforged
You marked serpent spine as 5 star btw, and are those stats for R1 or R5 ss? Seems too high for just R1. But man those charts just show how few good claymores Hoyo has released. Literally went 3 years with no 5 star ATK scaling weapon with Crit substat... until now.
Mb I just noticed, they're all R1. It's so high up because it's at max stacks, if you use serpent spine in the abyss for example, you can just wait to get all stacks then start.
“Nuh-via”
Yeah my bad, I noticed there were atleast 3 different pronunciations of Navia's name. This is because I'm not the one doing the voice over.
Wouldn't Beacon trigger with Furina? So if you use skill + have Furina, you'd be getting 33% crit rate and 40% ATK with a 608 base attack weapon, no?
Will Mono geo team work on her as a dps? I already have zhongli, gorou and albedo
Navia's passive wants your team to have 2 other elements, and you will need at least one other element aside from geo for crystalize.
u can drop albedo and put benny, hehe
Will wolves gravestone be good for her without bennet?
It is better without Bennett. The more of one thing you have (for example attack in our case) the less effective it becomes, so with Bennett you will be stacking more attack, making Wolf's gravestone a bit worse in damage compared to weapon's that increases crit or DMG%. Even with Bennett it's a decent weapon.
Will Skyward Pride work with her? I consider to get her weapon or try it at least one time cause I heard Ayaka will be paired with her. Also the 4.3 event sword is a bit confusing. Will there be a event we help the Melusine in Order to get refinement or we need to help them in overworld world quests?
I'm not 100% sure, we'll have to wait until its a bit more clear. But I assumed 2 melusines helped, and with 2 it's already one of the best weapons for Navia.
How did you get those DMG outputs? BTW now My Unforged is going to be useful. And it will also meet the aesthetics
We already now her base stats and multipliers, using all these numbers with theoretical artifacts (set bonus included, all rolls are using KQM standard) you can find how much damage a specific weapon gives you for a certain talent. I combined her kit to get this damage number. The numbers you see here should be around 40% higher for all weapons, and all of this is without considering team buffs.
Search Genshin damage formula if your interested.
@@MistsplitterReforged Thanks ❤️
Sorry I uploaded this video twice, the first upload had an editing error. Sorry for the trouble!
Which one would be better
Navia, Furina, Yelan, Charlotte
Navia, Furina, Yelan, Bennett
Navia, Furina, Bennett, Charlotte
The best option out of these would be Navia Furina Bennett and a second geo for the geo resonance, Zhongli Alebdo Ningguang or even Noelle can fit the team.
@@MistsplitterReforged I never thought of Noelle, but you're right, since Navia can be a sub dps and Noelle can be switched even with the burst on. It also solves the healing problem that's bothering me, while balancing the buff and the overall dmg of the whole party to maximize fanfare buff. I also mained Noelle in the beginning of the game, kinda nostalgic.
Will the Inazuma claymore works for her as well?? 🤔🤔 Since it has increase elemental skill dmg and has an ER as substats anyway
the event claymore is not out yet right?
Yes, it we'll know more about it next patch.
If i dont get lucky with her BiS artifact i will stick her with furina and use Marechaussee Hunter on her with WGS
I got 50/222 with my current pieces
Good luck!
it is not a good idea to build marecheussee hunter on Navia at all
it's not worth restricting her to Furina, who works even better in other teams, for a literal 1% more damage
Just curious, If I would start fresh, how many wishes could I gather before her banner ? I want her and her signature weapon, maybe some constellations if I'm lucky.
No you're not getting any constellations or a signature weapon starting this late. Maybe you can get her since her banner is in 30 days and lasts 20 days so thats an entire 50 days.
Just keep playing and keep saving coz you might see another future character that you want more than Navia.
A lot if you spend every waking minute exploring and doing world quests
Yeah I noticed that by doing world quests I can reach 8k primogems in like 5 days@@kuaithe
You could save for 2 hard pities if you start fresh in a new account. I tried it once, in a couple of days I was able to get Alhaitham after losing his 50/50. This all depends on how much you want to grind, the 2 hard pities I got were at multiple regions fully explored and at adventure rank 35.
Why would Bennett decrease WG value? More attack...
More attack on top of more attack would make the stat more redundant. While you still gain damage, a weapon that increases DMG% would make use of Bennett more.
The more you stack a single stat (like ATK), the more you want to focus on other stats.
what about sacsword
should i use na navia with beacon of reed sea because of the passive or what?
you can use it, but the passive is unlikely to activate. Anyways the weapon sheet does not count for it's passive.
Nah.....i am ignoring this guide. I will build her like this:
Weapon -- Portable Power Saw
Artifact set -- 4pc Gilded Dreams HP Atk EM Geo EM
...if i get her...
Should i pull her if i don't have zhongli or albedo, i don't have furina too😢
You could still make some teams work, if you like her pull for her.
Its the serpent spine on the calculations R0 or R5?
R1
@@MistsplitterReforged Oh it's completely f2p then ty for the response
With Furina around, Navia's HP is always consumed by seafood gang so why Serpent Spine? Is it counted as taken damage? In this case, i suppose the free 4* event weapon is superior.
Furina's HP drain isn't counted as taking damage!
@@gribberoni lol glad to know as i have R5SS 90 lvl lying around and discarded it at first. However, i am likely to pull for her BIS as it reminded me of Escanor and imo it is one of the best looking 5*weapon in the game.
Is she going to be standard?
I can't 100% guarantee, but no we haven't been told anything about her being a standard character.
Is she worth it if u already have itto + redhorn?
I like her but honestly no. So far judging from her kit, she's strong but not as much as Neuvillette and other characters.
I still want Navia since I'm a tall character collector but I might have to skip for now. I will pull for the weapon banner though coz it's just too good. Getting the Mistsplitter while aiming for her axe would be nice. My eyes are set on Cloud Retainer now after finding out she has a crowd control that pulls enemies together. I need her utility for my current team.
@@iloveplumpgrannies174 Seems reasonable, I'm looking forward to cloud retainer hopefully she can work with Furina.
Her supports are seperate from itto, you can have both its fine. They both not that great too so yeah…
I dont think MH is that good on her since you dont stay on field that much
unless hoyoverse rework geo ill skip every geo character.
Geo is fine as is, y'all just garbage at using the element 🤷🏻♂️
@@kondoriano4813except all the good geo characters don’t even use geo… The only part of geo that benefits it’s characters is it’s resonance. Everything else is the characters themselves. Geo does not offer anything in terms of reactions, do you realize how big of a problem that is? Look at hyperbloom, melt and vaporize, heck even superconduct. Every element has a reaction that benefits its characters, meanwhile geo characters are forced to pull their own weight. It simply doesn’t make sense how this element’s only reaction is some flimsy shield
@aperson6562 Geo is designed specifically as a neutral element, it's never supposed to be reliant on reactions. You're bitching about damage for a game that has no endgame content besides the easy Spiral Abyss. If you can't even beat that with Geo then it's massive skill issue on your part 🤷🏻♂️
@@kondoriano4813your arguments do not need to be ad hominem, it really only devalues your arguments. Anyway, the basis of my previous argument was that geo characters are able to achieve what they do not because of their element, why regurgitate that in your reply? The whole point of the element system in genshin was to add another layer to the typical roles present in games. Basically every team, even physical, makes use of the elements in some way, so it doesn’t make sense from a design standpoint why geo performs so poorly as an element. It has only one reaction, which is already a problem. But what’s an even bigger problem is, the game rewards you for running geo on its own rather than with other elements( look at geo resonance, and geo characters’ kits in general. This fundamentally prevents you from using the one reaction geo has, not that it would add much benefit. If you still aren’t convinced geo isn’t a bad element, try making any geo unit a different element and see if they wouldn’t be better off.
@aperson6562 "aD HoMInEm" kid it's just a simple fact. If you have such a hard time with Geo then it's straight up a skull issue on your part 💀💀
"Why regurgitate that in your reply" because that's how Geo is designed by nature, it's an element that doesn't rely on reactions at all. You literally said that then still tries to claim it's bad when it'd purposefully designed to be a neutral element. That's literally how it contributes to the game...amazing how you still didn't get that after typing all that bullshit. Geo is perfectly fine as is and it's comps can perfectly clear the Abyss including the one we have now. It's ok if you have skill issue for an easy game with no endgame combat content besides the Abyss, not everyone is good at gaming.
they are actually making a character that not even realised like WTF 💀💀💀
loved the guide but the way you pronounced her name 💀 lmaoo
My bad, I'm not the one doing the voice over that's why this happened. Anyways I'll do the voice overs myself in the future.
@@MistsplitterReforged haha no worries honestly, I just found It funny