ANYCUBIC Kobra 3 Combo beats BAMBU?

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  • @NoMercyFtw
    @NoMercyFtw 4 місяці тому +28

    The first company to come out with an AMS that's interchangeable with any printer will be groundbreaking and probably make a lot of money

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +1

      I can't see this happening. There is a need of communication between the printer and filament system. Companies COULD develop a standard that multiple devices could use but then they'd be losing revenue to a third party company and giving up design integration with their systems.

    • @NoMercyFtw
      @NoMercyFtw 4 місяці тому +2

      @@davetriesthis there could be a klipper based system thats some what plug n play

    • @oleurgast730
      @oleurgast730 4 місяці тому

      @@davetriesthis Actually it is very likely the ACE will eventually become usable with other printers. There is a big difference between the AMS and the ACE. On Bambulabs printers is a "filament buffer" wich actually is responsible for synchronicing the feeder in the AMS and on the printhead. So the printer is responsible to controll this. You can not use the AMS other than with bambulabs printers.
      However, the ACE has 4 "filament buffers" on the ACE itself. So the ACE takes care of sychronicing. That´s a huge difference. The printer only need to tell the ACE to deliver wich filament, and when the filament is detected. Practicly the same as on Prusa´s MMU - the filament changer has his own firmware, following some commands.
      This "feeder sychronising" is the most underestimated aspect of the AMS (and now the ACE). Most other Multi-Material units (like the MMU2/3, ERCF, Chameleon 3d etc,) simply disengage the feeder in the filamentchanger while printing; only the AMS and ACE (and maybe the new from Creality) stach attached to the filament.
      I do not think Anycubic reinvented the weel - I am pretty sure its just sort of serial communication between the printer and the ACE. Also the commands wouln´t be hard to find out. So it is just a matter of time the ACE will be able to be used with all Klipper based printers.
      Due to some UA-camrs Anycubic actually plans to make the ACE available for their other printers and even for 3. party printers. Actually making the ACE available for other printers would be a great advantage for Anycubic. Not everyone needs a new printer every few months. But enabling the ACE for other printers allows Anycubic to sell the ACE...

    • @enosunim
      @enosunim 4 місяці тому

      This is impossible as we would need standard firmware for those printers and to have communication interface! And there aren't any now. Or, wait a minute? Marlin? Klipper? Nah, never heard about them. And communication port? Which can accept and send GCODE commands? Nah, no printer have that. What? Usb to Com port interface? Nah, just my imagination! = )

    • @NoMercyFtw
      @NoMercyFtw 4 місяці тому +1

      @@enosunim yeah this would take cooperation from the companies and teamwork instead it's all selfishness

  • @Immolate62
    @Immolate62 4 місяці тому +4

    I have two A1 Combos, both with >1000 hours on them, so I know a little about the A1. They aren't perfect, but they're strong. Nozzle changes are effortless. They have a camera that allows monitoring from across the house. Bambu Studio is awesome. The AMS Lite can mount on the printer, taking far less space. The AMS Lite can handle cardboard spools, which almost everything inexpensive comes on. It is open and can't do dry-box, but if you burn through filament and/or your home is climate controlled, hydroscopy isn't likely to be much of an issue unless you store filament long term.
    All that said, they've done a good job being first to market with a Bambu knock off that is similarly priced that works. I'm eager to see the K2's version and how it works. I'm even more anxious to see the new Bambus that come out this year. All of this competition is very exciting and a great benefit to us hobbyists.

  • @MrBooth1974
    @MrBooth1974 4 місяці тому +2

    As a owner of both, Bambu and AnyCubic, I really like both printers. I like my X1C for printing ASA and tougher materials. That’s exactly what it’s made for. I also have a couple of A1 mini printers, and they are just fun. What I don’t like is the AMS lite that works with those. And that was the deal breaker for me when the Kobra 3 came with the dryer box and can (eventually) handle 8 spools. Decided to try the K3, and it has been great. I’ve only had one failed print, and that was from the purge tower getting knocked off the plate. All in all, I think the K3 is superior to the A series for printing PETG and PLA. But I’m still looking for hardened nozzles to come out.

  • @archemity
    @archemity 4 місяці тому +2

    Competition is great for our pockets, but I'll stick to what I know works. I started my 3D printing hobby just 3 months ago with the A1 mini. Now I also have two A1, and a P1S. This Kobra 3 is what made Bambu dropped their prices on their entire line up.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think anyone is switching from and a1 for this. :)

  • @merreborn
    @merreborn 4 місяці тому +3

    As an A1 combo owner, I've gotta admit, single-toolhead-multicolor printing is usually more trouble than it's worth. It's slow and produces a lot of waste. If you want your prints fast and efficient, you have to minimize color swaps. For full multicolor printing, multi-toolhead solutions are much more appealing. Even a system with just 2 toolheads opens up a number of possibilities that are much less practical on AMS-style filament swapping systems -- like using a separate dedicated support material with limited part adhesion.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +2

      Sure multitohead systems are much better. By far. And they're more expensive and complicated. Way too much for the users this is aimed at.
      My favorite use of the ams is to keep several filaments in there for switching between colors or filament types for different jobs.

    • @oleurgast730
      @oleurgast730 4 місяці тому +1

      Actually it realy depends what you print. For example I mostly print display cases and boxes with multicolour labeling embedded into the first 3 to 5 layers. So even with 4 colours it´s just 15 filament swaps.
      However, the big problem with actual printers like the Kobra 3 or the Bambulab printers is their high-flow hotend. You can not get a nice filament tip on unloading; ramping profiles like on the Prusa mk3/4 with MMU2/3 do not work reliable. If using a filament swapper, bet is an integrated heatbreak/nozzle with normal flow - like the Revo, Nextruder Nozzle, Trianglelabs TUN. However, all theese new printers are designed for higer speed, need a nozzle with higher flow and therefore need cut&poo for filament change.
      I sliced 4 1by1by1 cm³ in Prusa Slicer for the mk3 with MMU 2 - an over 6 year old system. I did the same in BambuStudio for the A1 Mini. Over all print time with the mk3 was shorter and the waste much less.
      So actually for multi colour the best option for less than 1k would be a hotend with Revo - so you can simply change the nozzle between normal flow and high flow. Actually The Next Layer made a coldend for the SV08. Would be nice if the ACE could be modified to be used there...
      However, an IDEX or a toolchanger would be better. But Slicer software need much more development. You do not want filament on the not used tool to be to hot for longer periods. But to heat up a hotend just after reciving the toolchange command reduces speed. So we would need a function to start preheating the next tool maybe 30 seconds before it will be grabbed... Also with a Toolchanger we obviously want to be able to use different nozzle sizes...

    • @Immolate62
      @Immolate62 4 місяці тому

      It depends on your use case. I don't doubt that you don't really need it, although I'd wager you enjoy the ability to quick load filaments. For people who need to batch out prints with colored labels or other minimized color changes, it's awesome. Time and waste is also more acceptable for iterative small item printing. For my on my P1S, the AMS is handy for the occasional color job, but still mostly just a convenient filament changer between jobs. For my wife with multiple A1 systems where she makes pretty things, it is much more useful.

    • @rockels_journals
      @rockels_journals 2 місяці тому

      @@merreborn It depends I think. Owning an P1S combo, and even BL printers have issues and flaws.
      I'm trying to avoid color changes because it increases the time and waste drastically.
      So color printing actually is not very interesting for me.
      But it's a nice feature to have to be able to use once in a while.
      I like it more to be able using it printing multi material. Like support structures (PLA mixed with PETG works great too).
      And when I use multicolor, then it mostly is about embedded text. Or text or colorchange on the most upper layers to avoid switching and waste as much as possible.

    • @scottyboy6269
      @scottyboy6269 25 днів тому

      I have an IDEX printer, I never use it for anything now because PVA supports are AWFUL just awful and you have to align everything perfectly. I may try the HIPS or PETG supports with PLA+ though that is supposed to work nicely
      I'm not sure why anyone does multi colour printing...a paint brush is so much easier

  • @stravelakis
    @stravelakis 2 місяці тому

    ❓Q: ❓in this printer, when it prints in multicolor, does it do 1 color at a time per layer? I was thinking of adding 1-2 color only on some layers and starting and ending with different colors to reduce pooping. ie. in minies having a green grass base, but not having any other greens.

  • @Derrabe2
    @Derrabe2 4 місяці тому +3

    Just heard you say you cant do painting in orca, I have done it several times. You can't send the files over the network to the machine but with thumbdrive it works just fine. I have it running on a full version 2.1.1 orca slicer.
    Also the camera function is working, I have not got the official anycubic camera yet, but if you plug in a cheap usb camera the anycubic app (andriod app) can see the camera but you have to move the slider for it to start streaming and it usually take a few seconds for it show up.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      I said you can't paint in orca with this printer. When you select the profile for this printer there is no painting tool because orca doesn't know it's multi filament capable. What kobra 3 profiles do you have running in orca?
      The version of my printer here when any camera is connected to the usb port says in their slicer that support is coming soon.

    • @BensPrintShack
      @BensPrintShack 4 місяці тому

      @@davetriesthisuse the anycubic beta slicer that has been based on orca and it has a pre set profile and you can paint to your hearts desire

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      @@BensPrintShack oh I am. I actually like their slicer. It's not as fully functional but I was saying you can use orca now but not paint in it until some point at which the ace is recognized by orca.
      I had a bit in the script about the painting tools in the Anycubic slicer being identical to bambu and orca but I guess I cut that for length

  • @gk-hg9zo
    @gk-hg9zo 24 дні тому

    Is there any FDM 3D printer capable to print reliable dental models ? (talking about quality of resolution and not about accuracy of dimensions).

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  7 днів тому

      Not with the same precision as resin, which is what dental implants are made with too. You get a much closer representation of the final product using resin.
      The Mars 5 Ultra, which is my pick for best resin printer ever (I"m doing a video on it now) is on sale on Amazon this week
      geni.us/dttmars5ultra (affilate link)

  • @bradtbickford
    @bradtbickford 3 місяці тому +1

    Why doesn't Kobra activate their cameras when the printer is released? They did that with the kobra 2 max

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  3 місяці тому +1

      Lots of companies did that. Drives me crazy. You don't really have the feature if it's not on.

  • @Widzu1010
    @Widzu1010 2 місяці тому

    I have a question, I am going to buy a printer but I don't know whether A1 combo or kobra 3 combo?

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  2 місяці тому +1

      The a1 combo is more reliable and out longer so it's had more time to mature software wise. However if you want an enclosed filament system at this price, this is your option.

  • @BnR_Tech
    @BnR_Tech 4 місяці тому

    Do you think it would be competitive to the P1S if I put it in an enclosure. Wondering if the quality is as good as bambu

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      Depends on the bambu. The p1s doesn't have a chamber heater. If you're doing tall pieces I'd go with the p1s since the plate only moves down.

  • @VladimirMateev
    @VladimirMateev 4 місяці тому +1

    I have Y axes shift only if use the orcaslicer, with anycubic slicer everything well with cloud

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      Same. Something must be up with the heir profile.

  • @jamesgates1074
    @jamesgates1074 4 місяці тому +3

    You keep saying Bambu was first with multicolor. Prusa has had an MMU system for years before Bambu even existed.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      I said they were the first to bring it to the masses. I didn't know any Prusa users that had their MSS. Sorry if I was confusing.

    • @redherring5532
      @redherring5532 Місяць тому

      There was the Mosaic too years ago

  • @JMLRecording
    @JMLRecording 22 дні тому

    this is the exact video i needed thank you

  • @James_T_Quirk
    @James_T_Quirk 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the Info, I have watched a few Reviews looking at what these multi-Color/Material units offer, but I have been waiting nearly 30 years for a 3D Printer that just works, like PRINTERS should, but All I can see is Primitive 1st Gen FDM, Tidied up with some better Computer Automation, that uses more plastic than the actual print if in Multicolor, the only thing I have seen that has some merit in multi-material/color is a Prusa XL 5 Head, but it still wastes plastic & Costs $8k, Unless there is a Redesign or Innovation or Tech Leap I think I may never own one that does multi-materials/color..

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +1

      I'm not sure I understand. What tech leap are you waiting for that's not here? If you're waiting for consumer level printers with multiple heads you could be waiting quite some time.
      If you're waiting for systems that "just work" and have single head MMU they're here and have been for two years now.

    • @James_T_Quirk
      @James_T_Quirk 4 місяці тому

      ​@@davetriesthis If I knew what Tech Innovation was coming I wouldn't be watching 3D Printer Video's, looking for it.. 😁Sorry but your & Printers Manufacturers Idea of What is working & Mine are 2 different things, this is year 55 with Computers for me, so I went through Crusty half working Computer market, Was a Commodore Dealer & Lightwave User, so I have been dealing with 3D for a while & I have No Intention of being the Testing Department for some of these suppliers of 3D Printers.
      My Kids & GrandKids have basic 3d printers, I have set them up, so I know these things waste too much Plastic & Time, Maintenance & Upkeep (not to mention shelves full of Benchies & near useless prints) for my liking, OK as a hobby & a Money Pit, (if i still had a shop I'd be selling Supplies) but I only can see that from Video's like yours, the strange bit is you & others cannot, but I seen people before Spend Big on New Tech, sing its praises, only to kick it to kerb a year later when something better arrives, I suppose if your invested you have to back it (or People that are owned by Apple)..
      I suspect now they have packed Cameras, Lidar, Accelerometers etc into them, next maybe AI setting up printer, watching the print & Filament changes may reduce some wastage, but I would prefer at least 2 head Pellet system so I can recycled waste easier & Conveyor Belt Bed for working through a list of Jobs, but All those Stories on how the Third world was swamped by Old Computers & their plastic in 1990's for recycling programs by PC Companies, is now hidden & dwarfed in domestic rubbish removal from these things I suspect, there has to be a better way, so my search continues ...

  • @pilarcomaposada9744
    @pilarcomaposada9744 4 місяці тому

    Hello, I just received the printer, I have little knowledge in this world, could you share the profile with the parameters that Anikubic provided you for the orca slicer? thank you very much in advance

  • @Kmnri
    @Kmnri 3 місяці тому

    Does this printer run klipper? if so can you share the config?

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  3 місяці тому

      It does though I don't have a config for it. It might be in orca now.

  • @rainsquadfpv
    @rainsquadfpv 7 днів тому

    Both printers need to figure out how to run tpu through ams and ace those don't like flexi filaments

  • @msp5616
    @msp5616 3 місяці тому

    Bambu is the Sonos of 3D printers in that their firmware and software keep their printers relevant. As a result, their printers evolve and remain relevant for several years. In contrast, Anycubic appears to prioritize releasing new hardware rather than improving their existing printers.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  3 місяці тому +2

      I do see where you are coming from. At the same time, bambu has been around for two years and they've released like six printer models.
      I agree that Bambu's secret sauce is ecosystem which most of the competitors haven't paid a lot of attention to.

  • @thatpspguy
    @thatpspguy 4 місяці тому

    Spool solution is to print a pressure fit edge, I have a file I modelled up.

  • @rockels_journals
    @rockels_journals 2 місяці тому

    So... But how does it print?

  • @malachaskos
    @malachaskos 4 місяці тому

    hi i m looking to upgrade from Ender 3 s1 pro and thinking for Kobra 3. Kobra 3 can print PA-CF?

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      I think it can as the temp is rated for it but I'm not sure. Might be good to email support.

  • @thesecretreviewer8242
    @thesecretreviewer8242 4 місяці тому

    cannot imagine flexible printing is any good on this with those long tubes

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      I didn't have any problems with the tubes other than it too a reallyyyyyyy long time to rewind filament. Their ACE doesn't pull the filament all the way back. It pulls it back out of the print head a bit. I appreciate them giving long tubes for placing it another shelf. Maybe a short ad a long set of tubes would be good.

  • @damiano1
    @damiano1 4 місяці тому +1

    I am waiting for my Kobra 3. I ordered on the 4th of July but so far no information on shipping.

    • @fabianlambert749
      @fabianlambert749 4 місяці тому

      I ordered mine on 7.6 and got my shipping information today…(10.7)

    • @damiano1
      @damiano1 4 місяці тому

      @@fabianlambert749 Shipping to Europe?

    • @garyr19841
      @garyr19841 4 місяці тому

      @@damiano1 keep me updated I ordered mine on the 4th as well and haven’t seen any updated yet. One week down. Seems like it has taken most people weeks before they got there’s.

    • @fabianlambert749
      @fabianlambert749 4 місяці тому

      @@damiano1yea

    • @fabianlambert749
      @fabianlambert749 4 місяці тому

      ⁠@@garyr19841its because of the preorders. They have an shipping time from nearly or more than a month

  • @MrJlhhagood2
    @MrJlhhagood2 4 місяці тому

    How's the app work on coloring

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +1

      Their app is identical in UI and function as bambu and orca for the AMS. Circle, sphere, fill, etc.

  • @Dazza2292
    @Dazza2292 4 місяці тому

    I have two of these and one definitely seems better than the other so far but still messes somethings up, like totally melting parts of a multicoloured print 🤷 the camera is also in the software but the one they sell is useless, strange angle and you have to print the casing and mount for it...really don't need it would prefer an overhead webcam

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      Yeah I just use Wyze cameras. They're like $30 and have night vision and good video quality. I don't even use the cameras on my bambu printers. And because the printers are downstairs and I forget if I've changed the filament settings I use another camera to check the filament in the ams. :)

  • @KronicDaydreamZ
    @KronicDaydreamZ 2 місяці тому

    Why is there no sound?

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  2 місяці тому

      Turn up your volume? There's sound.

  • @JakeCampbell-bw1fu
    @JakeCampbell-bw1fu 4 місяці тому +1

    Original prusa xl is the best multi colour printer

  • @MrGigs94
    @MrGigs94 18 днів тому

    I bought an Anycubic Kobra 2 neo kind of on a whim because ive wanted a printer for years now. I was blown away with how good of prints I could get from a printer that was only $150 but it did take some tinkering and searching for proper settings. But after spending more time trying to get proper bed adhesion or figuring out why my prints always fail after a few hours, its been sitting in my closet collecting dust. I recently saw that this product came out and the combo price was pretty enticing but in was soured with the experiences I had with the Kobra 2 neo. I ended up biting the bullet and getting a Bambu P1s with the AMS pro. I am yet to set it up so I will be updating this comment after I get at least the 50 hours of successful prints that I got and most of that was with printing simple models that were essentially boxes with extra steps.

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  7 днів тому

      The P1S is a better printer, by far. But this Kobra 3 is much beter than the Kobra 2.

  • @dkev001
    @dkev001 4 місяці тому +1

    anycubic uses plastic spools. Them and Sunlu are pretty much the only brands I use on my Bambu’s .

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      They make both. The Pantone ones they sent are cardboard. A lot of their high speed ones are too. The big problem here is that the system is advertised with the four Pantone filaments on cardboard.
      And of course it'll be an issue for any brand with cardboard spools. :(

    • @davedempsey5282
      @davedempsey5282 4 місяці тому

      @@davetriesthis yep, the one i just got is cardboard, Tropical Turqoise.

  • @jimmybargo5308
    @jimmybargo5308 2 місяці тому

    Why couldn't we just design and print a part that wee can put on the edge of cardboard rolls so they don't mess up sir

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  2 місяці тому

      You can but they don't work perfectly. If the spool edge is really bent, which was the case with the spools I got, the edge solution doesn't work. It won't stay on if they spool edge is out of true.
      There's several different solutions where you print new exterior pieces, take the cardboard off and slot in the new exterior pieces which solves this.
      But it's still a problem for this material system if you don't use that. And the spool solution is a bit cumbersome.
      www.printables.com/model/507938-hydra-ams-universal-spool-adapter

    • @Berrr_Is_The_Word
      @Berrr_Is_The_Word 2 місяці тому

      I've heard they have guard stls made for specific spools. But idk.

  • @calilifestyle
    @calilifestyle 4 місяці тому

    cool video

  • @madbuldog
    @madbuldog 4 місяці тому +1

    After my experience with the Anycubic Vyper, I will spend my money only on their products.

    • @oneanother1
      @oneanother1 4 місяці тому

      The vyper had a problematic bed level sensor early on. I got the kobro 2 pro, good machine except they locked the firmware so user can't access the settings. Kobra 3 suppose to be open source klipper, but I think the machine is too exoensive for what it is, a kobra 2 painted in silver color.

  • @KronicDaydreamZ
    @KronicDaydreamZ 2 місяці тому

    27 dollars for a t shirt? 😂

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  2 місяці тому

      Not my pricing. I make like $1 after the t shirt company takes their cut.

  • @williampetzer4540
    @williampetzer4540 4 місяці тому

    I will never buy any Anycubic printers ever again after the problems I’ve had with 2 of there printers. They also have no customer support.

    • @quacking_duck1
      @quacking_duck1 3 місяці тому

      I've had less than 24 hour turnaround from their after-sale customer support on any issues I've had in the past.

  • @bryanswift6301
    @bryanswift6301 4 місяці тому +4

    After my experience with the Anycubic Kobra Max, I won't spend my money on their products.

  • @DjferreGarage
    @DjferreGarage 4 місяці тому +1

    a1 very good. ams bambu n.1

  • @maxinike1
    @maxinike1 4 місяці тому +2

    No innovation, only a copy of Bambu

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому

      I very specifically say they copied Bambu in the video. That's mentioned several times in the first minute or so. But they did make their system a capable filament dryer in addition to a multi filament system. I'm sure bambu will make a new ams with that capability but it is at least something that hasn't been done.

    • @maxinike1
      @maxinike1 4 місяці тому

      @@davetriesthis sorry I didn't mean you didn't say it. WE only need admit its so similar to the Bambu like the purge wipe, the nozzle sweep and the AMS. But hey you did a great complete review. Nothing is missed and i subscribed to your channel. Thank you for your good work.

    • @oneanother1
      @oneanother1 4 місяці тому

      Even then any cubic isn't nearly as good with their product support, they just keep churning out unfinished products yearly, and discontinue older models. It think most people are already done with 3d printers. They either own one already or not interest in upgrading yearly.

  • @paytreonsuhks
    @paytreonsuhks 4 місяці тому +2

    bambu is so overrated it won't be hard to beat

    • @davetriesthis
      @davetriesthis  4 місяці тому +5

      I couldn't agree any less with this.

    • @jimmanis6717
      @jimmanis6717 4 місяці тому

      LMFAO. I was a die hard Creality guy, wanted nothing but another ender, bought a x1c as a refurbished deal with ams from microcenter since the price was great. I gave away my last ender a week ago. The hype is real, no print I ever got off my enders look as good as an average print on my BL.