(143) John Paul and Craig (20th September 2007 - Part 2)

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  • @BritDixie16
    @BritDixie16 10 років тому +33

    This had to happen for them to truly be together. Craig still wasn't ready yet. Sometimes it takes losing the person you love to realize how much you love them and to wise up and so this is what needed to happen so Craig could be wise the next time around.

  • @EfHaichDee
    @EfHaichDee 8 років тому +26

    I can't imagine James Sutton asking me to kiss him and choosing to refuse him. Madness.

  • @osky1416
    @osky1416 16 років тому +2

    This is one of my Faves Episodes. Thank you so much for giving us the joy to watch this again. U R WORTH a MILLION...and more

  • @sugdendingles
    @sugdendingles 3 роки тому +9

    “i don’t fancy other blokes. it’s just john paul. i wouldn’t go with other men. it’s just john paul. i cant help who i’ve fallen in love with.” honestly this makes craig sound more pansexual then anything but since he’s with hans now i think hes bi lmao but this is what makes craig such an iconic character for lgbt. his sexuality not being simplified and being more fluid is something that has aged so well and is extremely relevant today especially with everything in the current political climate of 2021. craig dean should get way more appreciation for giving birth to a lot of the popular lgbt male characters in soap who followed after him. aaron, brendan, callum etc. are all craig sons!

  • @Jessbooshluva
    @Jessbooshluva 12 років тому +6

    I'd never watched this storyline until 2 days ago!!
    And it literally only took me about 2 eps to fall in love with them! And now I'm here crying my eyes out :'(
    Only started watching Hollyoaks half way through the whole JP and Kieron thing so obviously knew that him and Craig ended up together in the end..But nonetheless this just broke my heart omgg!! By far the best ever on screen romance they're amazing cannot believe I missed out all those years ago, can't thank you enough for uploading!

  • @767wattsy
    @767wattsy Рік тому +1

    Heartbreakingly beautiful. The fact that Craig can't even shout "Don't leave me" let alone kiss John Paul or hold him at the airport is a sure sign of how much he has yet to grow - but what a great scene!

  • @Lynsisthewalrus
    @Lynsisthewalrus 12 років тому +19

    yeah i understand it too. i dont think Craig was actually gay, he just fell in love with his best friend who just happened to be a bloke. Pansexuall maybe?

    • @Lynsisthewalrus
      @Lynsisthewalrus 4 роки тому +2

      Croft Miller sometimes it’s not about gender it’s who you Fall in love with and I think this was Craig. He fell in love with his best friend who happened to be a guy

    • @Lynsisthewalrus
      @Lynsisthewalrus 4 роки тому +2

      Croft Miller no. He wasn’t sexually attracted to guys. So he wasn’t bisexual. He didn’t even fancy JP when they first met or anything. He fell in love with him not as a man but as a person. Love has no gender.

    • @Lynsisthewalrus
      @Lynsisthewalrus 4 роки тому +2

      Croft Miller nope. Bisexuality is when you’re sexually attracted to both male and female genders. He was only attracted to Jp because he was in love with him not because he was male.

  • @msashlyjudd8
    @msashlyjudd8 9 років тому +5

    This is my first time watching this SL, and I cried like a baby. That really hurt.

  • @OfTheMindscape
    @OfTheMindscape 12 років тому +4

    I always thought Craig wasn't good enough for John Paul. John is such a great person he deserves someone who will treat him right, someone who loves him and isn't afraid of showing it. All that hiding never works. It makes you feel like you're living a lie, like what you're doing and what you have going on is wrong. I'm glad JP stood up for himself and I hope he finds someone who will value and treasure him. He's been through enough already. Keep hanging on JP!!!

  • @05Sweetsome08
    @05Sweetsome08 13 років тому +4

    Ahh i love John Pauls little speech at the end "I love you craig" aww so sad but beautiful! And craigs tears running down his cheek! Getting my Mcdean obsession back tehe. This is when hollyoaks went down after Mcdean.

  • @KayleighKokkinos
    @KayleighKokkinos 12 років тому +1

    I remember taping this episode on my VCR! I watched it again and again and again.

  • @co10tb
    @co10tb 15 років тому +2

    i know. i want to cry too. James played the desperation in his voice so well. he is a great actor. and then Guy fed off of it and took it that one step further when he was begging him to stay.
    man, i could watch this scene a hundred times and not get tired of it. i wish US soaps added a bit more human drama and raw emotion into the stories instead of always having to rely on fantastical stories such as amnesia and evil twins.
    love is the best drama there is!

  • @amazing-osky2052
    @amazing-osky2052 5 років тому +1

    I still get emotional each time I watch this scene. WOW. I watched their whole journey and it was soo good watching their story. They are very good actors.

  • @osky1416
    @osky1416 12 років тому +2

    I have seen this part 1 million of times and still brings tears to my eyes when I see it. I am such as FAN. ;-(

  • @mywafflebitch11
    @mywafflebitch11 15 років тому +2

    Guy Burnett's acting from 5:50 to 8:20 and my personal favorites are when he says, "Please, we'll be going to Dubin." and "Don't leave me!...John Paul," so sad! but i still love McDean soo much

  • @nightwind88
    @nightwind88 13 років тому

    Thanks for putting all these videos up! I loved watching this. :)

  • @shoppinglegends
    @shoppinglegends 14 років тому +3

    i am like crying my eyes out :( one of the best episodes and shouldve won! x

  • @Caroline88649
    @Caroline88649 13 років тому +6

    It's good they spilt up, when Craig matured and could admitt to who he was, he came back for John Paul and it's better that way. This episode broke my heart at first though :'( Still couldn't help falling into hysterics over "Your mean't to be coming out of the closet not getting back in it!"

  • @robinhoog3916
    @robinhoog3916 5 місяців тому

    From loving him hard to getting beaten up by Craig to getting mixed signals and having his emotions played with .
    JP deserves all the happiness in the world .

  • @imanievelynrae
    @imanievelynrae 9 років тому +15

    2015 still heartbroken

  • @TorusMorganite
    @TorusMorganite 12 років тому +5

    It's my third time watching the JP & Craig storyline (JP & the Oh So Wonder/Handsome/Greatly Missed Kieran are next, again!), but it is so bizzare that I keep anticipating for Craig to shout 'I'm GAY!!' in front of everyone in the airport and for JP to leave with him to Dublin. I know this doesn't happen 'cus I've seen it before, but it's like I firmly believe that that is what is actually going to happen. This storyline truly has no competition in any other TV show ever for a gay couple.

  • @faith6833
    @faith6833 12 років тому +2

    That makes a lot of sense. We all want to be loved and to be able to trust our partner. Not being able to predict sexual behavior adds a whole new level of potential distrust to a relationship.

  • @rickstokes1
    @rickstokes1 9 років тому +5

    This scene is so heartbreaking, and as i re watch the series it the one i most anticipate. I have to say that I thought in future episodes that Lockie was one of my favorite JP love interests.

    • @donnabelmont1198
      @donnabelmont1198 4 роки тому

      I loved John Paul and Lockie together...I wish they didn’t kill him 😢

  • @flipboidex
    @flipboidex 14 років тому +2

    As heartbreaking at this scene was for me, I'm smiling because I read everyone's comments and know that I'm not alone in how I feel about this storyline. It's like ya'll can read my mind.

  • @zachzhu9917
    @zachzhu9917 10 років тому +1

    in the whole drama,this is my favourite episode

  • @_fullsunflower
    @_fullsunflower 14 років тому +2

    At the beginning where Craig rejected JP in punlic, that totally put me on edge and I knew what was ocming after that...

  • @kcl508
    @kcl508 13 років тому +5

    @CarolineYMASIX you left out the most important bit, that Craig came back looking way hotter than here :) All tanned and gorgeous, better hair, his face filled out nicely...lovely. (But yeah, you're right!)

  • @coffeetea720
    @coffeetea720 13 років тому +4

    Oh my god, MY HEART!!
    It's broken.
    D:

  • @eleanor7
    @eleanor7 5 років тому +2

    It's good that they parted, Craig wasn't ready. He still didn't really know what his sexuality was or being comfortable in his own skin. Let alone a relationship with John Paul, it's like John Paul said, "It's not that you won't, it's that you can't." Craig was so messed up, he needed time away to sort himself out. I do think that John Paul was the love that Craig wanted forever, it was just a lot to take it, not to mention that John Paul was a bloke and that his whole family (well except Steph) were so nasty about Craig's relationship with John Paul.

  • @Olliandchris4ever
    @Olliandchris4ever 12 років тому +2

    If Myra haden't already won the worlds best mom award, she just did.

  • @Olliandchris4ever
    @Olliandchris4ever 14 років тому

    This is my, what, 5th time going through these videos and I always cry and it's bad DX!

  • @classicsfan
    @classicsfan 14 років тому +1

    Go JP! I was so proud of him when he stood up for himself!

  • @Lynsisthewalrus
    @Lynsisthewalrus 12 років тому

    I remember 5 years ago in my room watching this and breaking my heart, oh my god i cried sooo much!!

  • @BombWarning
    @BombWarning 15 років тому +1

    Agree completely. I was happy JP walked away. He's right, he deserves so much better than Craig.

  • @namjoonieoppa5676
    @namjoonieoppa5676 8 років тому +5

    5:11 the way he freaking said it 😔😢 ughh & that gdamn song at the end made things WAY worse for me. too freaking sad but what's the song called though

  • @rays.3242
    @rays.3242 4 роки тому +2

    I understand where JP was coming from but I always felt he was extremely selfish in all his decisions..its like he only considers himself and no one else. Craig took a HUGE step by admitting to everyone he was in love with JP. He should have understood that Craig needed a chance to process his thoughts and its a lot for him.

  • @darshikashrivastava1372
    @darshikashrivastava1372 6 років тому +2

    The most saddest scene... but very fair...!!

  • @kenrikun
    @kenrikun 12 років тому +1

    I can't stop re-watching these videos. I watch other soaps with gay story lines and I just come back to McDean.

  • @denisenoles3159
    @denisenoles3159 8 років тому +2

    When I 1st watched this scene, I didn't realize that Jake asked Craig if he was bi. Finally someone brought that up as a possibility. Geesh!

    • @akuma930
      @akuma930 8 років тому

      yeah that's perfectly plausible. But that "oh I don't fancy other blokes just JP" Is Bullshit!

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому

    I´ll tell you what...the airport scene crushed me. I was heartbroken afterwards cos I missed Craig so much :( It was awful...having to wait. We weren´t sure about a SE, so yeah...you can imagine how the fans went crazy.

  • @SkyeWind
    @SkyeWind 14 років тому

    @VariahR It really did! I was completely gobsmacked by his acting on McDean day! oO And I love the fact that he's crying! Then AND now! He's brilliant! I would love to see him in some major film....

  • @verifiedbelieber98
    @verifiedbelieber98 12 років тому

    2012&still crying..

  • @akariasking
    @akariasking 14 років тому

    Fantastic acting...it's not that 'won't' but that he 'can't'. Even as John Paul is walking away he can't do so much as call after him, although he clearly wants to.

  • @untilwemeetagain2010
    @untilwemeetagain2010 6 років тому +2

    JP was being a bit over the top there in the airport. He loves him. Craig needs time to adjust. Also, he is wrong that he didn't choose him. Sarah asked him back a few times, and he CHOSE him.
    Great acting by both of them though. Their bond is beautiful in these scenes.

    • @PABWECG
      @PABWECG 6 років тому +2

      But he wouldn't have chosen JP if he hadn't been forced to make a choice. At this point in Craig's life, I truly believe that he would have married Sarah and tried to keep on seeing JP.

  • @fefaylopez1400
    @fefaylopez1400 9 років тому

    is there someone out there tell me what is the title of the song play in 6:55 until the end of that part when Jp tell Craig that he love him so much. thanks. crazy to knowing it please..

  • @elicatmiau
    @elicatmiau 10 років тому +7

    J.P.´s mother is the best!!!!

    • @PABWECG
      @PABWECG 6 років тому

      I agree. See, this is why Myra is so "nosy" when it comes to her kids' private lives. They are a very intimate family, for better and for worse.

  • @Eternalkhaw
    @Eternalkhaw 15 років тому

    I love this episode...Really make me sad too ~

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому +1

    Poor lad, for all his faults he really loved JP, but he wasn´t ready yet to just go snogging his face off in front of everybody. JP should had respected that. But, nope...and when he says here that he deserved more it just gets to my nerves, cos later on he´ll have another secret affair, but his "more" will be a dumb, boring, clingy priest! Go figure!! Craig deserved better!

  • @aznlove43v3r
    @aznlove43v3r 13 років тому +2

    i am totally agree with Craig that John Paul was really overreacted. Come on John Paul, he was just out for a few weeks and leaving behind everything to go to Dublin with you...and you walked away just because of a kiss. He was not ready for that "public kiss" yet...i think you of all people should understand it.

  • @liliblue
    @liliblue 13 років тому +1

    the only thing that made this episode worth it was when craig came back.

  • @co10tb
    @co10tb 15 років тому +1

    JP is setting the bar really low if he only needs craig to be as HONEST with him as he was with sarah. lol. doesn't he remember how much he lied and kept secrets from her.

  • @PrincessTisam
    @PrincessTisam 13 років тому

    what is the name of the song????

  • @PrincessTisam
    @PrincessTisam 13 років тому

    what is the song at the end???

  • @darshikashrivastava1372
    @darshikashrivastava1372 6 років тому

    Can anyone tell me which song is it... its soo good.. its the way you make me feel.... for moment i close to you... i can't find it...!!

    • @tase8723
      @tase8723 6 років тому +1

      It’s “I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten” by Dusty Springfield.

  • @011CRB
    @011CRB 14 років тому +2

    im so glad that they had the year apart coz it wouldnt ave worked if they went now - niether of them were ready. besides, i dont think craig has a sexuality its not guys or girls, he doesnt like anyone but JP even when he's gone for a year.

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому

    What did JP say right after they enter the airport ?

  • @chelbau
    @chelbau 13 років тому +2

    And that's the way to break John Paul's heart...AGAIN. Damit, Craig! What's with you? URGH!!!

  • @PrincessTisam
    @PrincessTisam 13 років тому

    Why do they leave??? Where are they going??? i dont understand x.x

  • @osky1416
    @osky1416 15 років тому

    Kudos to Craig for standing up for what he fought for JP's love. too bad he got scorch by JP after that.

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому

    What did JP say at 0:10?? Right after he crosses the airport gates?
    You´re brave. I can´t watch this scene...only the beginning of it. :PP

  • @1Lanavis1
    @1Lanavis1 13 років тому

    What's the song at the end?

    • @cadreycole9505
      @cadreycole9505 7 років тому

      I close my eyes and count to ten - Dusty Springfield

  • @Aveline_Jay
    @Aveline_Jay 15 років тому +1

    i toatally agree with you guys ,,, i love jp ,,, well i love the kieron story,,, but US soaps is so medieval... the only thing that I could think off is some part of Queer as Folk but thats it ,,, well there is one segment in grays anatomy about military affair ,, that is a good one ,,but this utterly and indulgently addicting i cant stop myself

  • @CraziRanger
    @CraziRanger 15 років тому +1

    I know a lot of you are gonna hate me for this but after all the stuff the craig put john paul through im kind of happy that he walked away. JP is a cutie pie and can get a guy who will love him and appreciate him and won't be afraid of public displays
    I just think that craig is wayyy too confused for his own good and that its a good idea that he goes to dublin by himself to sort out his feelings instead of playing the whole "I love a guy and i fuck a guy but i'm not gay" act
    Just my opinion

  • @cadreycole9505
    @cadreycole9505 7 років тому

    Name of the song
    I close my eyes and count to ten - Dusty Springfield

  • @ryanje8147
    @ryanje8147 8 років тому

    So, is that the real Heathrow Airport?

  • @ownwhoyouare
    @ownwhoyouare 13 років тому

    I love how the brother sees John Paul and does nothing to indicate as such.

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 14 років тому

    @Jordgubbsmix Don´t know if it´s a major film, but he´s filming Age of Heroes with Sean Bean. I miss Craig though. I love Guy, but I LOVE Craig :P

  • @yangatheart1
    @yangatheart1 15 років тому

    Thank god i never watched this relationship when it was on tv... think i would have gone crazy waiting to see what happens next.
    Thank to KIMBAFOREVA was able to watch the whole saga unfold including the Sunset Ending!!!!

  • @emmafrost4706
    @emmafrost4706 4 роки тому

    To be fair Craig did answer Jake and said he didn't know if he was bisexual. Up until now he's only liked girls, then John Paul came into the picture and became the love of his life. He's had zero experience with other men. I do believe in recent episode JP tells his dad that Craig been with a new man. So I guess finally Craig is either bi or pansexual.

  • @damonz.1474
    @damonz.1474 10 років тому

    Why only this esp can't watch !?

  • @faith6833
    @faith6833 12 років тому

    Totally agree!

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому

    *holds you whoever you are*
    Btw...I saw you on MDF!
    Are you on FH too?

  • @bcusaaus4749
    @bcusaaus4749 11 місяців тому

    Bring him back please!!

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 14 років тому

    @FallingAngelxx SE = Sunset Ending, as in JP and Craig's hapy ending (in sept 2008)

  • @kickasschick01
    @kickasschick01 14 років тому

    Thumbs up if you cried during this scene. Lol I did!!

  • @dfghjkkliytg
    @dfghjkkliytg 14 років тому +1

    It has actually been proved that nearly EVERYBODY falls in love with someone of the same sex in their lifetime. Wether they are gay or not. I guess that this one was Craig's. And i really think JP should be more conciderate! This is actually really difficult for Craig!

  • @TheQuandor
    @TheQuandor 13 років тому +2

    As much as i am generally with JP, i do think he's kind of overreacted..i mean there's not much time since the public coming out of their relationship, and Craig might just need his time to get used to the idea of being with a man in public, whereas JP has had his experiences already..he's set his aspirations on Craig just too high instead of helping him develop the confidence he had plenty of time to get :(
    but anyway, their breakup clears the way for a romantic reunion at least...:P

  • @YugeYun
    @YugeYun 12 років тому

    Yeah me too. It's like you love the person, not the fact that they're the opposite sex. Or that's how I feel about it. Also the word gay has such negative connotations that you may not wanna use it, but rather say you love the person.. who just happens to be a man.

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 14 років тому

    @Jordgubbsmix It was a soap thing. Guy wanted to leave. James was still under contract. I think I heard somewhere that Guy was due to leave just after the Dance Off, but he stayed a few months so they could develop Craig´s storyline with JP. He was smart though, cos Mcdean gave him the opportunity to show he´s a great actor.

  • @mywafflebitch11
    @mywafflebitch11 15 років тому

    meant to say, "Guy Burnett's acting from 5:50 to 8:20 is amazing!"
    whoops!

  • @faith6833
    @faith6833 12 років тому

    Craig is Bisexual with a preference for women. The person he happened to fall in love with just happens to be a man. Given similar circumstances in the future, he could in theory fall in love with another women or another man. People just feel more secure putting people in these neat little catagories. Sometimes the catagories just don't fit the situation at hand.

  • @FeedMeJuice
    @FeedMeJuice 12 років тому

    Exactly.

  • @Not-Ap
    @Not-Ap 3 роки тому

    Would have been easier if JP just tried to kiss Craig publicly. That way if Craig pushed him away he would have clear evidence that something was wrong and a reason to brake up.

  • @millers3888
    @millers3888 13 років тому

    God, just because he wouldn't kiss him? I thought that couple being all lovey dovey was obnoxious. PDA's are my worst pet peeve.

  • @faith6833
    @faith6833 7 років тому

    Did the term bisexual not exist in the U.K. at this point in time?

    • @PABWECG
      @PABWECG 6 років тому

      Of course. But even the actor who played Craig said that Craig wasn't gay or bisexual. He was straight, but in love with JP (according to the actor).

  • @kenrikun
    @kenrikun 12 років тому

    I agree that Craig needed time but if you have ever been in JP's position it feels pretty shitty he just needed some reassurance from Craig.

  • @lou18is
    @lou18is 15 років тому

    hollyoaks hit the point about real life i feel i am part of it . i cried my eyes out .

  • @faith6833
    @faith6833 12 років тому

    Yeah, what I dont understan is why jp is s upset because craig is being the same craig he has been since their relationship became "public." I think jp is scared and using craigs insecurity as an excuse. Why would he expect craig to suddeny change because they were at the airport. As craig says about a year later jp did not give him a chance.

  • @gatarharo
    @gatarharo 13 років тому

    Where the hell has jacqei been

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 15 років тому

    JP´s need to label Craig is really annoying.
    He knows what´s important: that Craig only fancies HIM and him alone! Silly blonde boy!

  • @jlrich2002
    @jlrich2002 12 років тому

    did anyone else notice that JP was walking the wrong way?

  • @Caroline88649
    @Caroline88649 13 років тому +1

    @kcl508 Yeah, he does look hotter I have to admit. Though I'm not digging the facial hair. It doesn't seem to bother John-Paul though!

  • @nemonobody5722
    @nemonobody5722 3 роки тому

    JP is not fair about the whole sexuality thing, he might be actually not gay, just in love with jp. And it is pretty special if you think about. Why labeling love?

  • @VariahR
    @VariahR 14 років тому

    @ianw3469 I believe that, althought the JPK affair was also a sneaky one for the most part, when they were out, it showed JP that even when he had the gay and proud-to-be-with-him boyfriend, it still wasn´t enough, when that boyfriend wasn´t the one. Kieron knew that and he feared the " ghost of Craig", so much that once C was back he pretty much knew it was game over (hence his comment to Niall that if JP knew C was comming back then he´d definitely want him out of the way)

  • @dinard38
    @dinard38 7 років тому +1

    Ugggghhhh.......I'm really tired of these gay storylines where the straight dude who falls in love with a man insists that he's not gay. He just fell in love with one man. JP & Craig, Christian & Ollie, Paulo & Miguel.
    That is straight up BS!!!! NO way I believe that a person can be attracted to just one person of the same sex. That's just Hollywood nonsense.

    • @seamus1956
      @seamus1956 6 років тому +1

      dinard38 It is nonsense, in a way. But it's also what people uncomfortable or in denial of their true sexuality convince themselves of in order to make it through. I've seen it time and time again over the years - especially after denying my own truth for over 40 years. This separation was exactly what Craig needed, that when he returned to Hollyoaks a year later he was far more sure and comfortable with his sexuality and then he and John Paul reconfirmed their love and finally went to Dublin together. When John Paul (James Sutton) returned again four years later, the storyline had Craig questioning himself again. But that's realistic as well. For some who have been taught their entire lives that being gay is wrong, it can take a lifetime to come to terms with it, if ever. It's also important to remember that this storyline was over 10 years ago, a whole different era when it comes to LGBT acceptance, both personal and societal. I'm glad you never had to deal with these issues, but they are very, very real to some of us.

    • @UniMagik
      @UniMagik 6 років тому

      I get where you’re coming from. The way that both media and society frame sexuality makes it so rigid that if someone falls in love with someone else of the same sex, then they must be gay and vice-versa. Unfortunately, sexuality is a lot more complicated than that, as is human nature. It’s fluid and can definitely change. Throughout his character history, Craig has only ever had relationships with women, with the exception of JP, who has been the only guy. Ultimately, IMO, the only thing that makes him is anything but straight. As humans, we like labels. Maybe there isn’t one for this relationship, and that’s perfectly fine!

  • @elreyyyo
    @elreyyyo 14 років тому

    Wtf... after all they went through? omg, i love this shit! lol...

  • @ownwhoyouare
    @ownwhoyouare 13 років тому

    JP looks like quite the chubby bunny in this clip.

  • @mogetplommon
    @mogetplommon 15 років тому

    How much I thought JP was right and being unfairly treated by Craig throughout the episode (and so many before) there was at one point he pissed me off here, for the first time, 2:00 to 3:20. You dont fall in love with what sex a person has, you fall in love with a person! There isn't really anything called gay or straight, whats the big deal? So what if Craig still is a bit afraid of saying that he could fancy men, and still likes women. Anyone in the world could fancy both, they aren't unique.

  • @SkyeWind
    @SkyeWind 14 років тому

    @mandrsol Absolutely!

  • @SkyeWind
    @SkyeWind 14 років тому

    why does Jp get so upset?? Craig's standing there explaining to Jake that he LOVES him!!! Ugh...I think this whole thing is just a soap thing where Guy wanted to leave the show and James didn't....