I love this guy's humility, honesty, transparency and most ov all loving/caring nature.....he did everything out ov love, the dad is mad and hard to say so bt he needs to 4give and settle this issue. We grew up seeing it that way bt wat i know no amnt ov money can be done in exchange ov someone, this instead oughts to be an appreciation.....Yes am a lady bt i feel for him
Victor, release the body in peace. Let her parents bury her. What you should be fighting for is to see the children as their father, i think you have a role to play in their lives.
This young man has a lot of respect for the in-laws and he deserves to be helped to bury the wife and getting the children or at least see the children. This is mental torture. Wazazi tukue wapole.
Am thinking sometimes love someone enough to let it go. Let them bury their daughter the way they want you showed her love and she knows you loved her , her body is just a vessel of her let it go. Now fight to have your children in your life and give them a parents love and allow them to see their grandparents. Let them have the body.
May God remember Victor he's so composed,narrating that story in a very good manner,you are in my prayers,Jane's parents please hear the cry of that young boy,hes your son,l wish anybody who cones out to be interviewed, can be that humble just like Victor,Lynn keep up your good job
@lynn ngugi please respond to this: Hi @Tuko/Tuco-Kenya, Could we please hear from the "father's in-law" side. I mean what the father in law has to respond to this? Please, if possible, air this one. The father-in-law side of the story. Thank you!
I'm just mad with you two,you and your father inlaw......one should give up atleast for the respect and for the love you both claim you had and still have for Jane💔
@@jennymuriithi3749 thats the highest range of selfishness I've ever seen.....personally I refuse to be kept in morgue more than a week unless my family is unstable but sio upuzi ya kuzikwa na huyu ama yule....believe me if she was to be buried by her husband the parents will attend the burial this aint a wedding ati itarudiwa and vice vase
If he really loved his wife ,he should drop the case and let her family bury her.He lived with her,loved her and built memories with her while she was alive.Those are things that can never be taken from him........This attachment to dead bodies is absurd to say the least.Let him focus on getting his children back.He is after all, legally entitled to them.
If the parents burry the woman they will deny him. Acces to the kids better they agree on burial and kids the man is honest. Let the parents release the body once you die its over
I feel this man, the sadness he has you can tell from his face. Kwanza vile amesema akitaka kuona bibi yake anaenda mortuary, watoto wake ndio hao hawaonekani, loneliness is killing him, he truly loved his wife. Mungu amtangulie na apitie Kwa baba Marehemu Jane waelewane so Jane can be laid to rest in peace.
Watching from Qatar. This guy is so honest, intelligent and transparent. His so sad,may the inlaws have mercy on him. He has suffered already losing his wife.. God above all... Tuko this was touching.
Future hubby please if i die before you just give my body back to my family and continue with your life. Sometimes this tradition elders are practising is also evil.
According to our customs,,,,, if your wife dies before the dowry payment.... You(the husband) have to pay the dowry then burry your wife.... If you are not able or willing you let the wife's family burry their daughter.
Victor please allow the parents to bury their daughter,it is their right to bury her because you ddnt pay the dowry. You weren't supposed to go to court at first.
Does it even matter who burries her? The parents are being too harsh really they can't even let their daughter rest In peace. He already said he was sorry.... This things happen. They were young couples who made mistakes. If your own parents won't forgive and love you? Who will?
Mahari ndio muhimu kuliko msichana kupumzika🤔.. mila my foot.. am so pained walai dah. Yani Kuna familia ziko na laana Dem uweke mtu mortuary for 2years why surely kutesa Jane bure tu.. both family's don't deserve jane at all mxiee 😏may your soul forever find peace jane n rest in peace🙏 Jane u deserved better mama❤️❤️❤️
Ladan Adan Home with tribal thing it's too much . Nowadays people are not too deeply rooted to the heavy traditions attached to some tribes so I think they could have given you time to express yourself or they could have said their part n let you say yours .
Blessed Mama, first I was welcomed warmly, delicious food which we all enjoyed. Mama and her friends then switched to mother tongue which I understand coz I’m born in Rift Valley where we pick so many languages. She finished it up with ‘muithramu’ who can’t worship at PCEA Riamukurwe!
What a sad story. God intervene. He is so humble. Denying him to bury his wife won't bring her back. She is gone just rest her in peace. Prayers to you
Men when you pursue a lady and her parents are against your relationship with their daughter please run for the hills. It never ends well. I learnt this the hard way
Forgiveness is needed here, but it looks like the two key players in this story not ready to open hearts for each other. The moment they forgive each other the funeral takes place immediately.
Wapereke na huko hao wazazi ata our own grandma got married at the age of 16 what if she didn't die what could they do coz they could be still together i hate such parents for real.
This happens a lot I have had such stories mpaka mtu alipe mahari but at form 3 she was young but he did not abandon her he stepped up as much as parents at that point are angry. Even if you are given money it will not heal the pain or bring your daugher allow her to rest even for the children to be at peace knowing their mother is laid to rest. Keeping children from a parent who is willing to love and support them has a psychological and mental impact and they carry brokenness and rejection to their families even in the future. This is causing more damage than good. 2 years someone is not yet burried jameni
What a sad story but wakenya wako na roho mbaya sana huyu jamaa he was real in love with his wife but the family is going to ruin everything atleast you have to settle this matter and mumzike huyo Jane
Victor Victor, I salute you for number 1 taking up your responsibility after making the late Jane pregnant. Two for taking care of her in her illness. But I urge you to let go..drop the case and let them bury Jane....give Jane that one last gift of resting in peace and forgive them for not seeing any good in you.But take you kids back thatcis your blood. Let God avenge for you.
Victor take heart am praying for you to continue having golden heart .and God is in control through HIM your father in-law will call you soon.and you will see your kids
Let him withdraw the court orders. Wacha mzee azike mtoto wake. Huwezi omba msamaha na mwili iko morgue. Just withdraw the court order na maisha iendelee
This is exactly the story with my Mums demise,it was painful and still is.But i wanna say my mama was the best despite all that happened....Victor may you find peace and God is everything in every situation
As much as the in laws have issues with him, at least they should respect the death body of their daughter and allow him to bury his wife.honestly 2year is too much. Then settle their issue later.
@@christinemariah9622 sure how on earth take your in-laws to court and he has not paid any cent surely even in Kikuyu tradition you can't burry ua wife if you have not paid for the dowry
@@josephmwangingure3259 Ya in this corona time i would love to listen to some positivity. But i know Tuco will deliver. They are one of my best UA-cam channel.
My story is rugs to riches.....i would love to tell it out. I sold socks on the streets of Nairobi today i run my own company in Germany....tuko im a call away
This guy is still young , and their marriage wasn't justified by the parents, let the parents bury their daughter concentrate on your children ,and pray for Gods grace you move on and maybe remarry this time in a proper way, and by the way parents are a blessing, any marriage that is not justified by parents never ends up well , parents blessings are more important than we can imagine............, if I may ask do that mzee attend other people's funeral and burials how does he feel others being buried while his daughter is suffering in the morgue 😭
Mzee is just right remember victor went to court to block burial on the other hand he hasn't pay dowry it can't happen nowhere on this country Kenya....
In as much as it is bad both sides but I can imagine what the family felt when u took there daughter when she was still young .ukiwa familia ikatehe uzike mtoto wao there's more to this .
Veronica Achieng,I also think like you but I want to see it in a different opinion, those parents r not wise to hey shd thank God n if they took there dota n adviced her now coz u have become pregnant n u were not raped it's not the end of ua life after giving birth u can start a course,we will join hands with ua hubby we support u,n coz yakimwagika hayazoleki.... We will bless u nawe Tia bidii....n wat r they gaining to hold grudges for all those year,wat if she died trying to do abortion so that she can study,wat if she continued studying by she got nothing...they are something's when they happen u need to swallow pride n consult God wat next now..... Jane's body s rotting in mortuary 😭😭😭😭😭😭
That's why I stayed it hurts both side but u should hear from the other side first then judge I never hear story from one side and conclude .there is more to this story until I hear from the deceased side that's when I'll judge
Lyn kindly tell Victor to allow the parents burry Jane but also parent allow Victor to stand beside the body of Jane during burial for last respect and love he had for jane.i just feel for him aki
So sad please parents allow your children to be hata kama alipata mtoto akiwa shule don't come between them give them time to make their own choices vicky you're very strong keep fighting till the end
Mimi naweza sema hivi, makosa ya victor kubwa all this while amekaa na msichana na wenyewe na hata hakuwahi panga wazee watembelee wazazi???? This mess would have been sorted long ago! He should have made effort to see parents while the wife was alive
Waah pole Sana babangu hizi ni changa moto za Dunia inshallah MOLA akuonyeshe njia..... Wallah sijui nichangie nn very difcult time to you baba wetu jmn
Naona wengi wanasema apeane mke azikwe kwao kwaàjili hajatoa mahari nisawa lakini kikubwa wa mruhusu ashiriki mazishi hatakama wata mzika mwenyewe n wamruhusu kuona watoto wake kila Jambo nimungu ñdio anaandika
Oh, my! I thought only our own parents would ever wish us the best in our lives. Why would they let their own daughter rot in a mortuary just because of misunderstandings, God forgives us several times and He keeps us alive but why do this? Don't they make mistakes or ever made any to make this man suffer surely? Am heavily saddened to hear this, finding such a concerned man is not easy truly let's ease his heart surely by helping where we can .... God bless him and everyone in the world. Find him a person to counsel him ako disturbed.... he loved his wife and his in- laws wanamfanyia opposite.
Lynn, kindly reach out to Jane's parents for their side of the story. I happened to know the late Jane n her kids through my siz in law, who used to live with her in the same plot at dandora phase 4,there is alooot Victor hasn't revealed. The kids are big n mature to speak if you reach out to them, they will lay everything bare.
let victor release Jane,that old man is not ready to give up,and then fight for the kids coz at least they are his and at no point did he say he failed to provide for them,just let it be,2yrs are long to suffer you shld start your healing journey and that of your kids,just drop it for the sake your kids and future.
All those blaming the parents, do you realize that this man is the one who prevented the parents from burying their daughter in the first place 🙆 by taking them to court yet he did not formally marry the late
Kama hujapeleka dowry for sure what do you expect wazazi ndio wanafaa kumzika or utoe then you burry her that's how should be sorry to say this lakini it's soo painful Victor let them bury their daughter release her please kids will co.e look for you one day
Pole Oluoch kwa kumpotesha mama watoto wako na mke . Tuko tungependa kusikia upande wa baba Jane ikiwezekana ndio tuweze kuamua na tujuwe ni nini inaendelea. Siwajui hawa watu lakini huwezi ukaamua na hujui nini inazuia baba Jane kuachilia mwili. Judge haamui kesi kwa kusikia upande moja tu. Tafuta baba Jane ikiwezekana tumsikize. Asante Tuko nyinyi ni watu wa bidii.
According to traditional customs, if ur wife die b4 paying dowry the parents has right to burry the body unless there is an agreement,,, if the burry the body the late daughter children will remain theirs until they are old enough to decide to look for their dad.. Victor u have passed a lot sorry for that but the court will sent you back to in-laws for agreement.. President can decide nothing about this case only you ad ur father in-law .... Release the body to rest in peace
i cant help but wonder what the father of Jane is gaining to see his child's body rot in mortuary sometimes achangeni hizo hard-lines you take and be human if it was you been laid in the mortuary for that long how would you feel if you were to feel something.
I don't know where u came from... But according to the culture of our people (Mt Kenya communities).. The girl and the babies belong to the father of the lady until mahari itolewe.. It is disrespect for a father to give away his daughter for free... Mimi sijui communities zingine.. But if this guy was a Kikuyu or Meru... He won't have gone to court... He should let it go in peace
@@davidndugere5665 kweli kbs mm pia natokea coast but huwa ni ngumu kwa mzazi kuachilia mtoto wake bure bila hata ya shilingi dho wazazi hukosa la kufanya juu ya viherehere zetu sisi watoto Wa kike
I hope this comment help this man. May dear you can never stay with somebody s daughter for 16 years without marrying her and claim she was your wife .Be realistic that was a friend and not a wife you too were not even happy staying together. 16 you never made an effort to marry her customary that's a big jock. Style up
My brother kesho nenda mahakamani futa hiyo kesi without that nivigumu suluhu kupatikana shukuruni mungu muna watoto hakuna vibaya mzee ikizika kitu muhimu ni mwili usizidi kuharibika GOD bless you my brother
Please let them bury their daughter, marry another woman and then move on.The children are yours and I assure you they will look for you in future brother
This brought tears to my eyes. Please daddy Jane I hope you watched this, if you truly loved Jane kindly let go and bury your daughter. Please forgive him for he's truly sorry for everything. For the sake of the Almighty Father, please...........daddy Jane Have mercy!
Caro your right,, sijui nany alisema lazima uende na millions of money kwa muschana Ata mtu huenda anajiongea na wazazi Wa naskia,, most men stay na watoto wawatu for long which is not good
1 the kids are big enough to make they own decisions 2 heshimu wazazi after kutoa msichana wao shule kumzalisha na hukupeleka ata ndururu kijana wachia wazazi wazike mtoto wao.... 3 i salute you umejalibu sana kungangana na Jane ata kama wazazi walikua against it ulijaribu.... Kuzika mtu or kutozika its will make no change na pesa inahesabu kwa mortuary......
It's really sad please Jane's parents and relatives just sit down with the family of Victor and talk together so as to solve this issue, I know how he feels about it may God give him strength and comfort. Victor take heart and try to be strong God is soon going to solve this problem don't loose hope.
The fact that he impregnated the gal before marying her and has never paid dowry, I think that is why the parents of the dead wife do not consider the man as the legit husband to their daughter . If he loves the wife as he says he does, let the parents bury their daughter and let him focus on the kids.Stop fighting over a dead body.
True this man loved his wife and general they loved each other the parents should realse the body to this young man to burie his wife. Nit all me are like u dear but God will stand for u
@@nomatusi7514 of course and that's the reason haezi zikwa kwa kina victor kama nani?I think the red flag that the husband didn't see is when they were living together then Jane's parents told her to go back, I think they wanted victor to think and take something so they be officially married but he didn't see.
the solution is simple, leave her parents bury her the way they wish. Why do you fight for the body? the more you continue fighting for the body, the soul remains restless! is not fair! The kids belongs to their father ofcourse. The grandparents are not supposed to deny him his kids as far as he can take good care of them and not mistreat them!
@@ellyondiek4646 The kids belongs to their father ofcourse. The grandparents are not supposed to deny him his kids as far as he can take good care of them and not mistreat them!
This man should pay dowry., Kidogo tu, hata ng'ombe Moja. There's no shortcut with the Luo tradition. Unless his inlaws are refusing,then woe unto him. But. It's okay to start all over again. It's never too late.
Victor May God Console you .Peace be still let God take control. Jane is not here now ,she left her body a couple of year's ago.let her body go.let her parents bury her. You are the father of those children and that's your human right as their parent to raise them. Forgive the parents and may God bring your children back to you and may he give you peace
But two yrs is too much,let the father of the girl release his hunger and they bury the lady so that she can rest in peace. Some parents are hurtless all because of dowry, if they want let them agree to bury the lady and tell the man to pay something that's all😭😭😭😭
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I'm just wondering why it took him so long to try and pay dowry since she already had a child with him. He was with her for 16 years! He should have been more persistent on trying dialogue with the parents while she was still alive.
@@susanmuthoni1167 si lazima uende na pesa ngunia, you report to her parents ni ww uko na mtoto wao according to kikuyu tradition, bora usiende mikono tupu ,from there they will tell you ni nini na nini utatoa, mkishabarikiwa mjipange pole pole muende vizuri
This guy should also be listened to......one side rejection,the second....joblessnes and finally sickness. My friends,it doesn't sound very easy. I believe every human needs to be given support to think straight. Parents in law.....let's be considerate sometimes. Looks like these parents were town oriented. Utapeleka ngombe Nairobi City.
Pole sana. But, wanaume wamekua wa kuassume maneno ya mahari. Some hukaa hata 30 years bila kutembelea inlaws. A big lesson to learn. Communication is essential
Staying in a mortuary all that time changes the appearance. This will add more trauma to the husband when and if he sees her. It’s obvious the father has a vendetta against the son in law. The family is vengeful and hateful. Children will grow up and will find out things for themselves.
I know this story is sad ....but sincerely speaking how do you stay with someone's daughter for more than 16 years without even paying one goat? Dowery is not a must a lot of cattle's......then to worsen matters anawapeleka kortini eti claiming he wants to burry his "wife"
victor i advice that you just have the mzee have his way ..you biggest challange is the good upbringing of the children ..they will punish you and you will suffer waachie mwili wazike popote pale wanataka wachana na urafiki anza kujenga maisha yako
What message do you have for Victor and his family-in-law?
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Pay dowry period. Victor knows the custom and was a free rider and it is not acceptable as per the customary requirement
Says a lady who knows nothing about life’s hurdles..
@@Qaribou Lol
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Victor talk to your inlaws about the dowry and customary issues. They probably need you to clear that and let u bury her
I love this guy's humility, honesty, transparency and most ov all loving/caring nature.....he did everything out ov love, the dad is mad and hard to say so bt he needs to 4give and settle this issue. We grew up seeing it that way bt wat i know no amnt ov money can be done in exchange ov someone, this instead oughts to be an appreciation.....Yes am a lady bt i feel for him
Lynn, your moderation skills are excellent, you can interview even a 3 year old child and they wont feel uncomfortable
True I love Lynn interviews
Big up to Lynn
Victor, release the body in peace. Let her parents bury her. What you should be fighting for is to see the children as their father, i think you have a role to play in their lives.
Yeah
Well said.
Well said aachie parents mwili simple!!
Exactly my point!
@@faithkagunda1017 Alifanya makosa kueda kustopisha mwili...of which hakua ametoa any....angeachilia tu mtu akifa ameeda hana maana tena
Have known victor for a while,and he's a humble fellow,God will intervene.
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This young man has a lot of respect for the in-laws and he deserves to be helped to bury the wife and getting the children or at least see the children. This is mental torture. Wazazi tukue wapole.
Am thinking sometimes love someone enough to let it go. Let them bury their daughter the way they want you showed her love and she knows you loved her , her body is just a vessel of her let it go. Now fight to have your children in your life and give them a parents love and allow them to see their grandparents. Let them have the body.
I second you.... Let them Bury her...instead of this makesi na mambo mingi juu ya kumzika.... Let it go if possible...
Exactly
No he must bury his wife know luos have different culture from yours,they might do something Hiden n this man knows that's y he's fighting for
Yeah let them barry the dead
May God remember Victor he's so composed,narrating that story in a very good manner,you are in my prayers,Jane's parents please hear the cry of that young boy,hes your son,l wish anybody who cones out to be interviewed, can be that humble just like Victor,Lynn keep up your good job
@lynn ngugi please respond to this:
Hi @Tuko/Tuco-Kenya, Could we please hear from the "father's in-law" side. I mean what the father in law has to respond to this? Please, if possible, air this one. The father-in-law side of the story.
Thank you!
I second u
True we need the other side of the story
I agree with you
Yah that should be
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Watching from Uganda. Heavenly father intervene and grant peace
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I'm just mad with you two,you and your father inlaw......one should give up atleast for the respect and for the love you both claim you had and still have for Jane💔
The problem is that if one family buries her the other will not attend. It's so unfortunate
@@jennymuriithi3749 thats the highest range of selfishness I've ever seen.....personally I refuse to be kept in morgue more than a week unless my family is unstable but sio upuzi ya kuzikwa na huyu ama yule....believe me if she was to be buried by her husband the parents will attend the burial this aint a wedding ati itarudiwa and vice vase
That father is just pissed off because he did not get a Bride Prize. Could you all stop pimping your daughter in the name of tradition?
If he really loved his wife ,he should drop the case and let her family bury her.He lived with her,loved her and built memories with her while she was alive.Those are things that can never be taken from him........This attachment to dead bodies is absurd to say the least.Let him focus on getting his children back.He is after all, legally entitled to them.
Correct
Well said I agree ☝️
l second you dear
If the parents burry the woman they will deny him. Acces to the kids better they agree on burial and kids the man is honest. Let the parents release the body once you die its over
As long he will pay the dowery the kids are his according to luo custom
I feel this man, the sadness he has you can tell from his face. Kwanza vile amesema akitaka kuona bibi yake anaenda mortuary, watoto wake ndio hao hawaonekani, loneliness is killing him, he truly loved his wife. Mungu amtangulie na apitie Kwa baba Marehemu Jane waelewane so Jane can be laid to rest in peace.
parents are blessing....but they can still ruin YOU
Point
Your right👌👌
Sure
Wazazi wengine wacha tuu🙆♀️🙆♀️
Sure sure sure ..angefanya dialogue na inlaws immediatelly walipopata firstborn
Ooh God may you intervene into victor's situation😭😭in jesus name I pray amen🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Pole sana victor waaa 🙆🙆
Amen😢🙏
Amen
What a humble soul this young man is. Please parents help out
Watching from Qatar. This guy is so honest, intelligent and transparent. His so sad,may the inlaws have mercy on him. He has suffered already losing his wife.. God above all... Tuko this was touching.
Future hubby please if i die before you just give my body back to my family and continue with your life.
Sometimes this tradition elders are practising is also evil.
According to our customs,,,,, if your wife dies before the dowry payment.... You(the husband) have to pay the dowry then burry your wife.... If you are not able or willing you let the wife's family burry their daughter.
Yes..
Yes, that's the right thing to do
CORRECT BUT THE GIRL'S FATHER IS NOT READY FOR THAT .TOO SAD
@@ogoshi93 so what does he want?? Am sorry to say he is a WICKED WITCH . How can his own daughter's body be in mortuary for two years???
@@alicemutua9921 KABISA !!!! HE IS A WITCH!
Victor please allow the parents to bury their daughter,it is their right to bury her because you ddnt pay the dowry. You weren't supposed to go to court at first.
Does it even matter who burries her? The parents are being too harsh really they can't even let their daughter rest In peace. He already said he was sorry.... This things happen. They were young couples who made mistakes. If your own parents won't forgive and love you? Who will?
Kwani wote wenye wamekufa na kuzikwa na bwana zao dowry,that's not the case,let them bury their daughter but give the children to their father
Mahari ndio muhimu kuliko msichana kupumzika🤔.. mila my foot.. am so pained walai dah. Yani Kuna familia ziko na laana Dem uweke mtu mortuary for 2years why surely kutesa Jane bure tu.. both family's don't deserve jane at all mxiee 😏may your soul forever find peace jane n rest in peace🙏 Jane u deserved better mama❤️❤️❤️
I have never understood how parents control who their children would marry😳this is way 1900's soo sorry for that Victor May God pave a way 🙏
I went to be introduced in Nyeri, guess what? The mum said ‘mukafi, muraihu’ and that’s how the biashara ended!
Ladan Adan hahahahaaa! Ati Mukafi muraihu!! Hahahaaa !
Blessed Mama, imagine! And that’s how the relationship ended!
Ladan Adan Home with tribal thing it's too much . Nowadays people are not too deeply rooted to the heavy traditions attached to some tribes so I think they could have given you time to express yourself or they could have said their part n let you say yours .
Blessed Mama, first I was welcomed warmly, delicious food which we all enjoyed. Mama and her friends then switched to mother tongue which I understand coz I’m born in Rift Valley where we pick so many languages. She finished it up with ‘muithramu’ who can’t worship at PCEA Riamukurwe!
Waachie wazike,the kids will come looking for you....soo sad
Forgive them,and let them bury there daughter,God is going to give you another wife.
What a sad story. God intervene. He is so humble. Denying him to bury his wife won't bring her back. She is gone just rest her in peace. Prayers to you
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Hata hiyo shida yote na magonjwa ni bcox of there parents,kutokubariki watoto wao,the guy is so greatful
Men when you pursue a lady and her parents are against your relationship with their daughter please run for the hills. It never ends well. I learnt this the hard way
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True wazazi wakikataa pls keep off
Pia na wanawake😓
I left mine too before my mum chop him with panga she hate the man with all her heart
Na us women when we are in relationship with a guy and the parents don't love us,what are we supposed to do??kukimbia pia🤔
Kama ukuwa umelipa mahari waachie maiti wazike wao wenyewe just move on mungu yupo .
Forgiveness is needed here, but it looks like the two key players in this story not ready to open hearts for each other. The moment they forgive each other the funeral takes place immediately.
Wapereke na huko hao wazazi ata our own grandma got married at the age of 16 what if she didn't die what could they do coz they could be still together i hate such parents for real.
Thanks for staying strong brother. Let them bury her and get the kids through legal authorities. You're one in a million people.
Jana mpoa sana my best friend
@@adhiamboadhiambo854 True
What kind of parents please my Go Grant you peace and humility
This happens a lot I have had such stories mpaka mtu alipe mahari but at form 3 she was young but he did not abandon her he stepped up as much as parents at that point are angry. Even if you are given money it will not heal the pain or bring your daugher allow her to rest even for the children to be at peace knowing their mother is laid to rest. Keeping children from a parent who is willing to love and support them has a psychological and mental impact and they carry brokenness and rejection to their families even in the future. This is causing more damage than good. 2 years someone is not yet burried jameni
What a sad story but wakenya wako na roho mbaya sana huyu jamaa he was real in love with his wife but the family is going to ruin everything atleast you have to settle this matter and mumzike huyo Jane
Victor Victor, I salute you for number 1 taking up your responsibility after making the late Jane pregnant. Two for taking care of her in her illness. But I urge you to let go..drop the case and let them bury Jane....give Jane that one last gift of resting in peace and forgive them for not seeing any good in you.But take you kids back thatcis your blood. Let God avenge for you.
Victor take heart am praying for you to continue having golden heart .and God is in control through HIM your father in-law will call you soon.and you will see your kids
Let him withdraw the court orders. Wacha mzee azike mtoto wake. Huwezi omba msamaha na mwili iko morgue. Just withdraw the court order na maisha iendelee
This is exactly the story with my Mums demise,it was painful and still is.But i wanna say my mama was the best despite all that happened....Victor may you find peace and God is everything in every situation
As much as the in laws have issues with him, at least they should respect the death body of their daughter and allow him to bury his wife.honestly 2year is too much. Then settle their issue later.
He is the one to give up from the word go the in-laws didn't bless his marriage and he never went to make peace with them .
Mistake number one was to take this thing to court,wajaluo wajeuri asingeenda kimabavu....angalia sasa
@@christinemariah9622 sure how on earth take your in-laws to court and he has not paid any cent surely even in Kikuyu tradition you can't burry ua wife if you have not paid for the dowry
She is not his wife he did not pay dowry
Christine Violet, true! He should give up and remarry, he’s still in his 30s
I love Tuco. Is it possible to also have stories of success eg from rugs to riches, divorcee success after divorce etc
I concurs with you dear cos always all stories online are heart wrenching
@@josephmwangingure3259 Ya in this corona time i would love to listen to some positivity. But i know Tuco will deliver. They are one of my best UA-cam channel.
Ziko
My story is rugs to riches.....i would love to tell it out. I sold socks on the streets of Nairobi today i run my own company in Germany....tuko im a call away
@@leahthedreamchaser630 Leah am eager to listen to your story of victory
No right on the body but right to get his children back
This guy is still young , and their marriage wasn't justified by the parents, let the parents bury their daughter concentrate on your children ,and pray for Gods grace you move on and maybe remarry this time in a proper way, and by the way parents are a blessing, any marriage that is not justified by parents never ends up well , parents blessings are more important than we can imagine............, if I may ask do that mzee attend other people's funeral and burials how does he feel others being buried while his daughter is suffering in the morgue 😭
Nice question
Mzee is just right remember victor went to court to block burial on the other hand he hasn't pay dowry it can't happen nowhere on this country Kenya....
I wonder too how he feels and also the mortuary bill is still increasing
In as much as it is bad both sides but I can imagine what the family felt when u took there daughter when she was still young .ukiwa familia ikatehe uzike mtoto wao there's more to this .
Veronica Achieng,I also think like you but I want to see it in a different opinion, those parents r not wise to hey shd thank God n if they took there dota n adviced her now coz u have become pregnant n u were not raped it's not the end of ua life after giving birth u can start a course,we will join hands with ua hubby we support u,n coz yakimwagika hayazoleki.... We will bless u nawe Tia bidii....n wat r they gaining to hold grudges for all those year,wat if she died trying to do abortion so that she can study,wat if she continued studying by she got nothing...they are something's when they happen u need to swallow pride n consult God wat next now..... Jane's body s rotting in mortuary 😭😭😭😭😭😭
That's why I stayed it hurts both side but u should hear from the other side first then judge I never hear story from one side and conclude .there is more to this story until I hear from the deceased side that's when I'll judge
Lyn kindly tell Victor to allow the parents burry Jane but also parent allow Victor to stand beside the body of Jane during burial for last respect and love he had for jane.i just feel for him aki
So sad please parents allow your children to be hata kama alipata mtoto akiwa shule don't come between them give them time to make their own choices vicky you're very strong keep fighting till the end
Very sad 😭😭😭😭 indeed 🥺😭 this man is very intelligent and brave God is loywer for everything 🙏🙏🙏🙏
This man has respect ..he is ready to let the wife to be burried but they make peace as a family may God give him peace and comfort
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Mimi naweza sema hivi, makosa ya victor kubwa all this while amekaa na msichana na wenyewe na hata hakuwahi panga wazee watembelee wazazi???? This mess would have been sorted long ago! He should have made effort to see parents while the wife was alive
Waah pole Sana babangu hizi ni changa moto za Dunia inshallah MOLA akuonyeshe njia..... Wallah sijui nichangie nn very difcult time to you baba wetu jmn
Naona wengi wanasema apeane mke azikwe kwao kwaàjili hajatoa mahari nisawa lakini kikubwa wa mruhusu ashiriki mazishi hatakama wata mzika mwenyewe n wamruhusu kuona watoto wake kila Jambo nimungu ñdio anaandika
According to what I am reading those kids are big. He said one was born in 2003/04 something like that
@@nomatusi7514 yes dear bt he has the right for the kids
@@remiomar7154 He should be fighting for his kids not for his baby mama because he was not legally married.
Oh, my!
I thought only our own parents would ever wish us the best in our lives. Why would they let their own daughter rot in a mortuary just because of misunderstandings, God forgives us several times and He keeps us alive but why do this? Don't they make mistakes or ever made any to make this man suffer surely?
Am heavily saddened to hear this, finding such a concerned man is not easy truly let's ease his heart surely by helping where we can ....
God bless him and everyone in the world.
Find him a person to counsel him ako disturbed.... he loved his wife and his in- laws wanamfanyia opposite.
The dad is adamant because he has lost the daughter twice. Teen pregnancy is not easy on any parent
Kabisaaaaa
Saa teen pregnancy na uyu Jamaa alikubali responsibilities???kaa angeruka hio mimba mngefanyaje?
Lynn, kindly reach out to Jane's parents for their side of the story. I happened to know the late Jane n her kids through my siz in law, who used to live with her in the same plot at dandora phase 4,there is alooot Victor hasn't revealed. The kids are big n mature to speak if you reach out to them, they will lay everything bare.
Sure we should hear from the in-laws side too
Tupee uhondo. I also feel this man hajatuambia story yote. There is more here
Jane died am so sorry Victor
This guy is stubborn. He knows how to pretend. He was not legally married. He will end up losing the case.
Pls hii udaku haipendi uvivu
Drop the case and think on how to get your children
let victor release Jane,that old man is not ready to give up,and then fight for the kids coz at least they are his and at no point did he say he failed to provide for them,just let it be,2yrs are long to suffer you shld start your healing journey and that of your kids,just drop it for the sake your kids and future.
I wonder why people fight on someone who is already dead but why,Wawachie mwili move on remarry maisha iéndelee eish
ni mali , i mean if they knw one has properties they will and this is so sad
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He has too humanity in him that he cant give up on her even over her dead body besides , she's in too much in love with her children.
Surely,aki its so sad,y is the court nt help this man,nafeel huyo mwanaume
All those blaming the parents, do you realize that this man is the one who prevented the parents from burying their daughter in the first place 🙆 by taking them to court yet he did not formally marry the late
Very true
angeacha tu wazike story mingi iishe after all hawakumpenda kuanzia mwanzo
True
I do not know who is advising him. He got the wrong advise. He will end up losing the case because he was not legally married.
Young man, let go and allow the parents to bury their own daughter. Cohabiting is not marriage.
Si father in law azike mtoto wake alaa..this is not right...Kama hawataki hubby azike mama si wao wamchukue...this is not good
Kama hujapeleka dowry for sure what do you expect wazazi ndio wanafaa kumzika or utoe then you burry her that's how should be sorry to say this lakini it's soo painful Victor let them bury their daughter release her please kids will co.e look for you one day
Hajakataa wazazi wazike anataka atleast awe present mazikoni
Pole Oluoch kwa kumpotesha mama watoto wako na mke . Tuko tungependa kusikia upande wa baba Jane ikiwezekana ndio tuweze kuamua na tujuwe ni nini inaendelea. Siwajui hawa watu lakini huwezi ukaamua na hujui nini inazuia baba Jane kuachilia mwili. Judge haamui kesi kwa kusikia upande moja tu. Tafuta baba Jane ikiwezekana tumsikize. Asante Tuko nyinyi ni watu wa bidii.
What a strong man and a loving one.May God make a way for him
According to traditional customs, if ur wife die b4 paying dowry the parents has right to burry the body unless there is an agreement,,, if the burry the body the late daughter children will remain theirs until they are old enough to decide to look for their dad.. Victor u have passed a lot sorry for that but the court will sent you back to in-laws for agreement.. President can decide nothing about this case only you ad ur father in-law .... Release the body to rest in peace
I come from nyanza and dowry is even paid even after death
i cant help but wonder what the father of Jane is gaining to see his child's body rot in mortuary sometimes achangeni hizo hard-lines you take and be human if it was you been laid in the mortuary for that long how would you feel if you were to feel something.
Oooh my after all the man is very humble and respectfull to the inlaws
How can you take rob a man of his children? Maney is not everything in this world
I don't know where u came from... But according to the culture of our people (Mt Kenya communities).. The girl and the babies belong to the father of the lady until mahari itolewe.. It is disrespect for a father to give away his daughter for free... Mimi sijui communities zingine.. But if this guy was a Kikuyu or Meru... He won't have gone to court... He should let it go in peace
Culturally, parents have to bless their children marriage, otherwise it's not considered marriage. Let Victor give up the battle and move on.
@@davidndugere5665 well said ...
@@davidndugere5665 kweli kbs mm pia natokea coast but huwa ni ngumu kwa mzazi kuachilia mtoto wake bure bila hata ya shilingi dho wazazi hukosa la kufanya juu ya viherehere zetu sisi watoto Wa kike
I hope this comment help this man. May dear you can never stay with somebody s daughter for 16 years without marrying her and claim she was your wife .Be realistic that was a friend and not a wife you too were not even happy staying together. 16 you never made an effort to marry her customary that's a big jock. Style up
My brother kesho nenda mahakamani futa hiyo kesi without that nivigumu suluhu kupatikana shukuruni mungu muna watoto hakuna vibaya mzee ikizika kitu muhimu ni mwili usizidi kuharibika GOD bless you my brother
Please let them bury their daughter, marry another woman and then move on.The children are yours and I assure you they will look for you in future brother
TRUE
True.
sure
God's grace is sufficient in your struggles. I can't imagine the kind of stress you have. But in all this He is still God.
This brought tears to my eyes. Please daddy Jane I hope you watched this, if you truly loved Jane kindly let go and bury your daughter. Please forgive him for he's truly sorry for everything. For the sake of the Almighty Father, please...........daddy Jane Have mercy!
What a sad story! !!!The parents should forgive him.
Lynn may Almighty father intervene for this man I can feel his pain
Especially taking kids form him
Wah we pray that justice will be preview!!
Kama hukutoa mahari wacha wazike mtoto wao lakini Pole lakini
Even other parts of Africa not only Kenya,kama hukutoa Mahari
Mwili ni wa wazazi marehem...cz hutambuliki,
Wanjeri... Waria ta mugikuyu muge... He should let them do it in peace
@@davidndugere5665 ametaka kulipa mahari watu wa kina msichana hawataki surely that father is selfish
Caro your right,, sijui nany alisema lazima uende na millions of money kwa muschana Ata mtu huenda anajiongea na wazazi Wa naskia,, most men stay na watoto wawatu for long which is not good
You're right my dear
He is even a good man he didn’t dump her with pregnancy 🤰they are traumatising the kids some parents are very difficult 😡
True
His family n friends should have raised some money nawaende walipe dowry. It would be over now
I hoped that was going to be his request
1 the kids are big enough to make they own decisions
2 heshimu wazazi after kutoa msichana wao shule kumzalisha na hukupeleka ata ndururu kijana wachia wazazi wazike mtoto wao....
3 i salute you umejalibu sana kungangana na Jane ata kama wazazi walikua against it ulijaribu....
Kuzika mtu or kutozika its will make no change na pesa inahesabu kwa mortuary......
This man should just let the parents burry their daughter. Hata hajalipia mahari, I think he's wrong
Let it go Victor, father in-law is also a blessing to your kids ,mwacha tu azike dougher yao watoi watakutafuta.
Lynn, I really love your afro. You soo beautiful. Is time to celebrate black hair and get rid of all the wigs.
It's really sad please Jane's parents and relatives just sit down with the family of Victor and talk together so as to solve this issue, I know how he feels about it may God give him strength and comfort. Victor take heart and try to be strong God is soon going to solve this problem don't loose hope.
May the almighty wipe away the tears of this man and see him through in this trying times
The fact that he impregnated the gal before marying her and has never paid dowry, I think that is why the parents of the dead wife do not consider the man as the legit husband to their daughter . If he loves the wife as he says he does, let the parents bury their daughter and let him focus on the kids.Stop fighting over a dead body.
Amen
May our good God intervene with Victor's situation in Jesus mighty name
Let Victor allow them bury their daughter especially if he had not paid dowry and negotiate how he will be seeing his children....
Wah! Aki ni painful woiye,, Victor uko strong mungu atakuonekania ngugi ubarikiwe Sana Victor atapata Justice
True this man loved his wife and general they loved each other the parents should realse the body to this young man to burie his wife. Nit all me are like u dear but God will stand for u
Wazazi waezi kubali Jane azikwe kwa kina victor
She was a baby mama not a wife. He was not legally married.
@@nomatusi7514 of course and that's the reason haezi zikwa kwa kina victor kama nani?I think the red flag that the husband didn't see is when they were living together then Jane's parents told her to go back, I think they wanted victor to think and take something so they be officially married but he didn't see.
Victor is a humbled man, may God make a way.
the solution is simple, leave her parents bury her the way they wish. Why do you fight for the body? the more you continue fighting for the body, the soul remains restless! is not fair! The kids belongs to their father ofcourse. The grandparents are not supposed to deny him his kids as far as he can take good care of them and not mistreat them!
What of the kids?
@@ellyondiek4646 The kids belongs to their father ofcourse. The grandparents are not supposed to deny him his kids as far as he can take good care of them and not mistreat them!
This man should pay dowry., Kidogo tu, hata ng'ombe Moja. There's no shortcut with the Luo tradition.
Unless his inlaws are refusing,then woe unto him. But.
It's okay to start all over again. It's never too late.
Jane is no more in laws, think about the children what can you do positively knowing your mother is in mortuary?
Dear lord intervene on this manner.may u grant him peace.
Victor May God Console you .Peace be still let God take control. Jane is not here now ,she left her body a couple of year's ago.let her body go.let her parents bury her. You are the father of those children and that's your human right as their parent to raise them. Forgive the parents and may God bring your children back to you and may he give you peace
But two yrs is too much,let the father of the girl release his hunger and they bury the lady so that she can rest in peace. Some parents are hurtless all because of dowry, if they want let them agree to bury the lady and tell the man to pay something that's all😭😭😭😭
Exactly dear.
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We want to hear the other side of the story from Jane's parents
Yes I agree with you.lets hear the other side of the story from Victor's father in law.
So we weigh both side
Pole kijana mungu akufanyie wepesi ila akiwa mzima hawakutaka uishi nae lakufanya wewe wachie haina haja
I'm just wondering why it took him so long to try and pay dowry since she already had a child with him. He was with her for 16 years! He should have been more persistent on trying dialogue with the parents while she was still alive.
Amesema alikuwa na mahitaji mengi yaki fedha. Thats why it took long to pay dowry.This story is a big lesson to those in similiar relationship.
@@susanmuthoni1167 si lazima uende na pesa ngunia, you report to her parents ni ww uko na mtoto wao according to kikuyu tradition, bora usiende mikono tupu ,from there they will tell you ni nini na nini utatoa, mkishabarikiwa mjipange pole pole muende vizuri
Surely......haven't you heard all that he explained. .....
He tried to be in gd relationship from long ago if you followed carefully ..but the in-laws would not let him be...plus the sickly wife.
This guy should also be listened to......one side rejection,the second....joblessnes and finally sickness. My friends,it doesn't sound very easy. I believe every human needs to be given support to think straight. Parents in law.....let's be considerate sometimes. Looks like these parents were town oriented. Utapeleka ngombe Nairobi City.
Pole sana. But, wanaume wamekua wa kuassume maneno ya mahari. Some hukaa hata 30 years bila kutembelea inlaws. A big lesson to learn. Communication is essential
In the mortuary for 2 years?! How is this even legal?
Ati nini?ebu nisikize
I wonder too
I had a relative who stayed in mortuary for more than 10 years.
@@ondarah haiya🙆♀️🙆♀️
Staying in a mortuary all that time changes the appearance. This will add more trauma to the husband when and if he sees her. It’s obvious the father has a vendetta against the son in law. The family is vengeful and hateful. Children will grow up and will find out things for themselves.
I had that luhyas n jaluos they have some culture ukiacha bb azikwe kwao wanafanyanga Jambo then the man can't remarry ...pole Sana
I know this story is sad ....but sincerely speaking how do you stay with someone's daughter for more than 16 years without even paying one goat? Dowery is not a must a lot of cattle's......then to worsen matters anawapeleka kortini eti claiming he wants to burry his "wife"
Mila na destuli za watu weigine lipa mahari
Somehow
Anesema alikaa na bibi yake for 6months...angdlipaje dowry surely
Some parents even that one goat hawawezi Kubali,,,dowery this days is like business
May God give you grace 🙏🙏
True even in newspaper the other day said staying with a man its not recognized as being married.
victor i advice that you just have the mzee have his way ..you biggest challange is the good upbringing of the children ..they will punish you and you will suffer waachie mwili wazike popote pale wanataka wachana na urafiki anza kujenga maisha yako