I was in my mid teens living in Northern Ontario when that feud was going on, a buddy of mine who lived in Sudbury got tickets for an event featuring the Garvins vs the Rougeaus in a steel cage match. That was one hell of a match. This feud went on for almost 6 months, selling out everywhere they went. That's how a good booking was done. the Garvins were hated and the Rougeaus were loved. Classic wrestling period. Today's bookers can take note of how to build a wrestling feud, good talent doing a good job went a long way and good feuds could last long periods of time if done properly. WWE USED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. P.S. Garvin/Rougeau matches can be found on youtube.
He and David had a great run. I loved the "valet for a day" skit on the ranch. He and Chris Adams had a good feud, too. Also, good run with Rick Martel in AWA people forget about.
You're old man is off. They were huge in Georgia (Atlanta), then Texas and still were pretty strong in Mid South/UWF...all three were national/semi-national via TV. So they had 6 years where they were really big and then coasted another 4-5 years, later with Garvin. That puts them on par with any team act of the era, second only to the Road Warriors.
Yeah!!! Absolutely! The Fabulous Freebirds were for al long time the number one heel tag team in WCW!!! In Chicago in 1985 (back then WCW was NWA) they beat even the Road Warriors...!
The Fabulous Freebirds are my favourite tag team ever...(including the original Freebirds)! Cool entrance, cool music and Michael P.S. Hayes' moonwalk thing and cocky and arrogant style was very entertaining...! Jimmy Jam Garmin was the perfect partner for Michael. Good old times! :)
Met him in Mid south before a match at the Mississippi Coliseum in Jackson. Jake the snake and Jimmy Garvin vs Afa and Sika... jerk.... glad he got his butt kicked in the match
Well, he would have been a face, so no. Garvin was a face who beat jobbers but lost to top tier heels. He used the sleeper in Mid-South as his finisher.
a friend of the family played in the beanpot hockey tournament the final year the "old" garden was in use, he said "it was a fucking dump, if these people didn't hold on to tradition so hard it could have been torn down 15 years earlier"
tim mutohfan I went as a kid / teen to games and wrestling matches in the 70's to mid 80's. No AC in the Summer, tons of obstructed view seats, questionable facilities in the men's room, etc. There was a certain charm, though.
tim mutohfan opinions vary. I don't know if you've been to any other parks, I've been to PNC in Pittsburgh and Camden Yards in Baltimore. And after being to them I can honestly say Fenway is a dump. Plus I'm 6-4 so the seats are definitely tight no matter where you sit at Fenway
yeah, i'm 6'6" fenway isn't always a blast for me either. pnc is a good park, i've visited there but never sat to watch a game. never been to camden yards, so not much to say there..
With Garvin's personality He should have gotten over as "Freebird". Inspite Garvin's personality and best efforts, Garvin looked woefully out of place.
Always felt the mistake was him and Hayes were the same, whereas Buddy and Terry were contrasts....so had they just shifted the gimmick and dropped the Freebird name, it would have worked better. It's like the later Horsemen reincarnations. The factions would have worked better if you eliminate comparisons to when they had Tully and JJ. Without the dynamic they brought, it wasn't the Horsemen...but the groups still could have been fun.
78bcat The other aspect that hurt was Garvin and Hayes heading to the ring singing that awful song. If the television audience response was any indication??? Had the audience been allowed to show their genuine reaction to the song. That reaction would have been a New York salute.
@@78bcatI agree that the team was good but they weren't the Freebirds. If they had just come up with another name and gimmick it would have worked much better. There's no way to recreate something as successful as the original Freebirds were.
thommytsunami Yeah he did. He still had the beard and the "Gorgeous" gimmick his first two years in Jim Crockett Promotions...or damn close to the first two years, until he became a Freebird. He still had the "Gorgeous" look when he was feuding with Wahoo McDaniel, when he first got to Crockett Promotions. Then when he turned face and started teaming with his "brother" (step-dad) Ronnie Garvin, and they were feuding with Ric Flair at first over Precious and later Kevin Sullivan, over Precious as well. His face run against Flair was good, and it produced some really good matches. But yeah, once he joined the Freebirds, he wasn't as good. I didn't dislike the WCW version of the Freebirds. They were good, but in comparison to the ORIGINAL Freebirds and Garvin's "Gorgeous" gimmick, they were horrible. That's how great the original Freebirds and Garvin were in WCCW.
thommytsunami I always thought Jimmy was at his hottest in 1986 when he first started the NWA his intro was sharp dressed man, his wife looked even more hotter than in WCCW. His new finisher was that dreaded Brain buster that looked like a spiked DDT at the same. A far cry from The Jimmy that I saw fight David Von Erich and Chris Adams in World Class Wrestling a few years earlier
Guess why Jimmy Garvin became a free bird because he didn't want to wrestle anymore I would have never thought what you said and Jimmy Garvin makes me sick
I'm very far left, and antiracist. What James E. said was certainly culturally insensitive, re: Ethiopian famine, but I would never call this racist on the flimsy grounds that the fried chicken stereotype somehow extends beyond the scope of American history. The whole thing was absurd, and it's ultimately, probably, what led to Tyrus getting the belt.
jimmy garvin was always a bit of a joke as a wrestler, never took serious that he was remotely tough, and then when he was freebird he was really a clown, although just ronnies step son... hes like the lanny poffo of the garvins lol
I've heard the Jimmy Garvin/Dr Death story many times but it never gets old.
Every time either one of their names comes up here comes that same f****** story
@chrischar9428 so? What's your point?
Jims right on this. Bobby being upset over something would calm people down.
Being from Québec i remember vividly the feud between the Garvins and the Rougeaus, it was great.
I was in my mid teens living in Northern Ontario when that feud was going on, a buddy of mine who lived in Sudbury got tickets for an event featuring the Garvins vs the Rougeaus in a steel cage match. That was one hell of a match. This feud went on for almost 6 months, selling out everywhere they went. That's how a good booking was done. the Garvins were hated and the Rougeaus were loved. Classic wrestling period. Today's bookers can take note of how to build a wrestling feud, good talent doing a good job went a long way and good feuds could last long periods of time if done properly. WWE USED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
P.S. Garvin/Rougeau matches can be found on youtube.
Are jimmy and Ronnie Garven brothers?
@@sabinpaul2395 Ronnie is Jimmy's stepdad.
@@natebaxter9551 ha… i actually learned that in the year since I posted the question…completely forgot i even asked this
Love having more 6 05 clips on UA-cam!
The thought of Jim Cornette on roids is actually scary knowing his anger issues
Jimmy becoming a "Freebird" was the worst decision of his entire wrestling career.
Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin was an awesome heel. His matches with Magnum Terry Allen, "The Von Erich's, Dusty Rhodes to name a few.
John Reece I remember his feud with the Von Erichs. Great stuff.
He and David had a great run. I loved the "valet for a day" skit on the ranch. He and Chris Adams had a good feud, too. Also, good run with Rick Martel in AWA people forget about.
I first saw Garvin in Texas fueding with David Von Erich. He was a great heel
His feud with Wahoo was underrated
The Freebirds are more of an Memphis, Texas, Florida territory team, dad said they never really made a big deal in WCW/NWA Atlanta.
You're old man is off. They were huge in Georgia (Atlanta), then Texas and still were pretty strong in Mid South/UWF...all three were national/semi-national via TV. So they had 6 years where they were really big and then coasted another 4-5 years, later with Garvin. That puts them on par with any team act of the era, second only to the Road Warriors.
Yeah!!! Absolutely! The Fabulous Freebirds were for al long time the number one heel tag team in WCW!!! In Chicago in 1985 (back then WCW was NWA) they beat even the Road Warriors...!
They were big in world class championship wrestling..
I'll bet Garvin learned quick to always run from Dr Death with a chair.
I just remembered when i was a kid..
I couldnt hate him! He looked just so happy all the time
Jimmy G bought Devil Lettuce by the bale! Big ones...like fork lift size! 💯😂
Loved the Fabulous Freebirds, Michael P.S. Hayes and Jimmy Jam Garvin!
They're not the freebirds. The only freebirds are Hayes, Gordy and Roberts. The Gravin version shouldn't have even used the name.
So do.i
WHAM
"Fuck!"
"Fuck with me!"
WHAM
The Fabulous Freebirds are my favourite tag team ever...(including the original Freebirds)! Cool entrance, cool music and Michael P.S. Hayes' moonwalk thing and cocky and arrogant style was very entertaining...! Jimmy Jam Garmin was the perfect partner for Michael. Good old times! :)
They suck
Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin, Precious and Mr. Electricity Steve Regal with magic together in the AWA.
Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin was one of the best workers and promo Cutters in wrestling history
I guarantee Garvin didn't yell at the Steiners after any matches.
Garvin and The Freebirds went to GWF after they left WCW.
Fuck the steiners overated
Jimmy Garvin stepfather is Jimmy Garvin and his cousin is Sunshine.
He's his own stepfather?
If he quit wrestling, what was the pirate gimmick?
Oh, PILOT.
Met him in Mid south before a match at the Mississippi Coliseum in Jackson. Jake the snake and Jimmy Garvin vs Afa and Sika... jerk.... glad he got his butt kicked in the match
Greedy D Are you sure he wasn't just maintaining kayfabe?
Well, he would have been a face, so no. Garvin was a face who beat jobbers but lost to top tier heels. He used the sleeper in Mid-South as his finisher.
a friend of the family played in the beanpot hockey tournament the final year the "old" garden was in use, he said "it was a fucking dump, if these people didn't hold on to tradition so hard it could have been torn down 15 years earlier"
tim mutohfan dude the old garden was a dump much like Fenway
i was never in the old garden, but i have been in fenway since the fix up.. i can't compare the two, but fenway is a nice park.
tim mutohfan I went as a kid / teen to games and wrestling matches in the 70's to mid 80's. No AC in the Summer, tons of obstructed view seats, questionable facilities in the men's room, etc. There was a certain charm, though.
tim mutohfan opinions vary. I don't know if you've been to any other parks, I've been to PNC in Pittsburgh and Camden Yards in Baltimore. And after being to them I can honestly say Fenway is a dump. Plus I'm 6-4 so the seats are definitely tight no matter where you sit at Fenway
yeah, i'm 6'6" fenway isn't always a blast for me either. pnc is a good park, i've visited there but never sat to watch a game. never been to camden yards, so not much to say there..
With Garvin's personality He should have gotten over as "Freebird". Inspite Garvin's personality and best efforts, Garvin looked woefully out of place.
Always felt the mistake was him and Hayes were the same, whereas Buddy and Terry were contrasts....so had they just shifted the gimmick and dropped the Freebird name, it would have worked better. It's like the later Horsemen reincarnations. The factions would have worked better if you eliminate comparisons to when they had Tully and JJ. Without the dynamic they brought, it wasn't the Horsemen...but the groups still could have been fun.
78bcat The other aspect that hurt was Garvin and Hayes heading to the ring singing that awful song. If the television audience response was any indication??? Had the audience been allowed to show their genuine reaction to the song. That reaction would have been a New York salute.
@@78bcatI agree that the team was good but they weren't the Freebirds. If they had just come up with another name and gimmick it would have worked much better. There's no way to recreate something as successful as the original Freebirds were.
"Supplements" Ugh!!!!!
Why did Garvin shave his beard? He looked so much cooler in World Class.
thommytsunami Yeah he did. He still had the beard and the "Gorgeous" gimmick his first two years in Jim Crockett Promotions...or damn close to the first two years, until he became a Freebird. He still had the "Gorgeous" look when he was feuding with Wahoo McDaniel, when he first got to Crockett Promotions. Then when he turned face and started teaming with his "brother" (step-dad) Ronnie Garvin, and they were feuding with Ric Flair at first over Precious and later Kevin Sullivan, over Precious as well. His face run against Flair was good, and it produced some really good matches. But yeah, once he joined the Freebirds, he wasn't as good. I didn't dislike the WCW version of the Freebirds. They were good, but in comparison to the ORIGINAL Freebirds and Garvin's "Gorgeous" gimmick, they were horrible. That's how great the original Freebirds and Garvin were in WCCW.
thommytsunami I always thought Jimmy was at his hottest in 1986 when he first started the NWA his intro was sharp dressed man, his wife looked even more hotter than in WCCW. His new finisher was that dreaded Brain buster that looked like a spiked DDT at the same. A far cry from The Jimmy that I saw fight David Von Erich and Chris Adams in World Class Wrestling a few years earlier
I liked Garvin's AWA run too, him and Steve Regal were an awesome team.
My sentiments exactly even in awa as some what a freebird was good
Yeah but corny, wouldn't the horsemen have to do the limos and whatnot for kayfabe reasons?
Jim garvin was great n Dr. Death was a bad ass great fuef!!!!
Corny was married in the 80 s lol!! Did mother have approve it.
Is precious still alive?
Yes, still married to Jimmy.
@@fredmillsaps5268 wow that’s amazing and fantastic
Dang Jim Cornette what do you have against pilots?
Guess why Jimmy Garvin became a free bird because he didn't want to wrestle anymore I would have never thought what you said and Jimmy Garvin makes me sick
I think there is something wrong with that
that was funny under your real name???? he was like no a fake 1 of course his real 1
I'm very far left, and antiracist. What James E. said was certainly culturally insensitive, re: Ethiopian famine, but I would never call this racist on the flimsy grounds that the fried chicken stereotype somehow extends beyond the scope of American history.
The whole thing was absurd, and it's ultimately, probably, what led to Tyrus getting the belt.
you are annoying
Jimmy jam??? Lol!!!!!
jimmy garvin was always a bit of a joke as a wrestler, never took serious that he was remotely tough, and then when he was freebird he was really a clown, although just ronnies step son... hes like the lanny poffo of the garvins lol
Love Corny, but he is wrong.
Jimmy Garbin is 5’11”,
and at that time was 220# or so...
not 5’9”/205#.
Right, and wrestlers/wrestling promoters NEVER take liberties with a wrestler's size or weight.
I love how I got a Trump ad before this lol ( not that I support Trump just the irony)
What's ironic about it. And u should support Trump
Trump is the greatest President we've ever had. The country, and the world is falling apart under Beijing Biden
What?
@@johnbarnett2316 You are clearly an intelligent individual with excellent taste.
Fabulous fakebirds lol