As a German, I have to comment on this: Yes, the AfD is an extreme right-wing party. Yes, there are links between national socialist groups and this party. Yes, the AfD is bad (in my opinion). Nevertheless, there are other NS-parties in Germany and some far-right groups who think that the AfD is not far-right in the right way or is not far-right enough. The AfD is to a large extent a Trumpist party, not in relation to Trump the person, but in relation to the measures and actions promised by Trump, such as mass deportations, anti-wokeness aganda, racism, pro-Putin stances, isolationist policies etc.
In contrast to the AfD, there are also parties that are much less secretive about their Nazi ideology, such as the "Der III. Weg" ("The Third Way") or the NPD.
In contrast to the AfD, there are also parties that are much less secretive about their NS-ideology, such as “Der III. Weg“ (”The Thrid Way") or the NPD.
I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem -- greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SS! will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with Stephanie Janis Stiefel my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.
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I’m planning on moving to Thailand in the next 5 years if trump’s government doesn’t do anything with the high prices of groceries and taxes What about you??
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If we're all freaking out about the people looking for jobs crossing borders and fighting each other over petty differences, we're not focused on the army crossing east European borders, or the rich people already in our countries taking our money, health and safety. Russia and their friends like Trump and Musk love this.
The guy who just drove his car through the German Christmas market , killing and injuring many, also supported the AFD party, as does Musk. Let's just say that the party attracts nut-jobs.
@@Swedishpolymath you just found a way to say “I’m a nut job” but in a less offensive way. Way to go… and I’m not alone in my ability to read between the lines, there knucklehead 😂… let’s see what others might have to say…commence ragging on the AFD party supporter here, who would like to be known as someone that is Swedish.
@@gerarddearie-zd2gb Hmm, I see a lot of interesting connections. Apparently he had been there (in Germany) since 2006 (Germany World Cup 2006). Osama bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia. There is the Qatar World Cup 2022 that should never have happened and the FIFA World Cup 2034 in Saudi Arabia that will never happen. Guys you are almost there.
Google Taqiyya. Hadiths condone lying to Infidels to infiltrate and conduct Jihad. Possibly lied about being atheist to avoid extradition to Saudi Arabia.
Native German, naturalized citizen here. The AfD was founded a little over 10 years ago by retired business leaders, economists, university professors, teachers, and other academia, to provide an alternative to the established parties, which there were five with nationwide significance. Christian Democrats, Social Democrats, Green Party, Liberals, and Socialists (slightly simplified). AfD wanted to counter, in their view, too EU-friendly policies. What I thought was foolhardy already, since Germany benefitted from the EU and its growth like no other country in the union, quickly evolved into an all-out anti-EU-movement. Soon after that, openly far-right tendencies became visible, much of the founding academia left the AfD in frustration, or were pushed out by far-right protagonists, and the party became a cesspool of racists, neo-nazis, conspiracy-theorists, etc.. Several years ago, some of the local chapters were put under observation of the federal constitution protection agency (Bundesverfassungsschutz), since almost three years, the entire party is under observation. AfD grew strongest after German government, under chancellor Merkel, decided to open the borders for immigrants from Syria, and during the refugee-crisis, fueled and intensified by Russian support of the Assad-regime, hundreds of thousands found refuge in Germany. In tow came many refugees from African countries as well. Russia, by financially supporting the AfD on the right, and socialists on the left (look up BSW, Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht), are systematically undermining trust in the political establishment. Same as here in the US, political actors on the fringes are exploiting the insecurities of the population for their own gain, playing into the hands of outside forces, which see their biggest threat in functioning free, open, democratic societies. It is up to us to keep the order of our republic.
Why people have to trust the political establishment by default? I don't get it. The trust is earned and the establishment forget they have to serve the people. I cannot think of a concrete example of the ordinary people that will have the drive to trust the establishment by default. Only if you are loyal D/R party member.
@ No disagreement here. I just wanted to shed some light on the history and development of the AfD, since it is now in the international spotlight. The rise of the AfD in Germany, and the MAGA-movement in the USA, can to a good degree be attributed to the inability, and/or unwillingness, of the political establishment to explain their policies to the electorate, and listen to the same, and act accordingly. This has created a vacuum of social satisfaction, which is filled primarily by bad actors.
"It is up to us to keep the order of our republic." It most certainly is. And the rest of us are keeping a very wary eye. Your country has an unfortunate record. Some of us were a bit concerned when reunification happened. It is notable that the AfD is primarily made up of what were East Germans. Somewhat ironic, given who Angela Merkel is.
The last time we used blaming immigrants for all of our issues..the Billionaires and banks tanked our economy in 2007 into 2008. It’s just a “look at the bright shiny object over here!” tactic, to make us think that the current billionaires aren’t also screwing us, once again. We never learn our lesson….
I seem to remember it was half government mandates to sell houses to people who couldn’t afford it, and half rich people making bets on bullshit financial products based on said-mortgages. But nuance, who knew.
When JVL has to correct Sarah on why terms like ‘hygienic’ are inappropriate it reminds me how much work she has to do. And as Indigenous woman I find it quite typical, oops there I go with my identity politics again. I know how you feel about that. If you want to be respected for fighting on the good side then you have to do more than just hate Trump. It’s not just about the far left, they don’t run shit. We don’t all have your privilege and remember that when it comes to the immigration issues they’re never speaking of people like your mother who immigrated here from England. Remember most illegal status people are visa overstayers. Do better.
I totally disagree I found him quite annoying and distracting from the points she were trying to make. If anything, stuff like this is what bogs the party down from being effective. Like who gives a fuck about the language if we are agreeing about the sentiment? Politics is about outcomes, it’s not PR/HR for some company. It’s wokesplaining, as cringe as that sounds. This is coming from a black American... if that means anything.
No, Sarah, the family is not just "white;" it's that they are blonde --which is associated, but not limited to, Aryan characteristics. Italians, for example, are white, but tend not to be blonde.
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I have just watched the 2021 Holocaust series about the US policy approach to dealing with Jewish refugees from 1933 to 1951. The parallels with what is going today is scary.
Excellent point. It is the Elon's of 'the world' (or of the USA) who are doing the most harm and want to stop the "power" of the unions....this could all be their agenda. To keep wages low and make more money!
The Democrat Party expected the unions to automatically support them. Sean O'Brien, president of the Teamsters Union, mentioned several incidents with Kamala Harris during the Biden campaign and later her campaign concerning the Teamsters. When Biden was running for his second term, Kamala confronted a Teamster official during a social event. Kamala wagged her finger in the woman Teamster's face and told her the union needed to support Biden. Later when Kamala was the presidential candidate, she along with the other presidential candidates was invited to answer sixteen pre-given questions to the Teamsters. Kamala at first balked at answering more than three questions. When she did appear with the Teamsters, she then answered only three questions and cut the session short. As she left the session, Kamala then told the Teamster president, "I am going to win with you or without you." You probably remember that the Teamsters were not invited to the Democrat Convention. They also did not endorse a presidential candidate. Unions are only as strong as the government's cooperation. Traditionally, unions have supported close borders as a way to protect their members' well-paid secure jobs from cheap labor.
4:58 the average person has no idea what is going on in politics here at home, let alone have a clue about political parties in other countries...the fact that authoritarian oligarchy is taking over the planet is beyond comprehension for folks who have always been free.
Authoritarianism is what we just avoided with a conservative win. Kamilla and the WEF had big plans for pushing forward their globalist one world government agenda.
@@BrigidFitch2112It’s not the people, if anything the majority of people, globally are way way more progressive, ya know, wanting the future to be better and more equitable and just for all… It’s the “leaders” who are forcing themselves into power and trying to drag us all right, mostly against our will, or brainwash others. We, the people must UNITE!! 🩷
If Trumpism is all kayfabe, that just makes it worse. It means all the people who support him know better and are severely derelict in their civic duty.
Sarah is falling for the conservative framing of a liberal position. No one wants open borders, no one thinks borders are racist. Those are Republican talking points. We are saying "Border policy hasn't been updated since Reagan and it's time to do that in a professional and humane way.
No she's not, you missed what she was saying, maybe she used the wrong word, Why are you jumping on her for that, she made a mistake. You've obviously never done that in your life?Really?
There were plenty of democrats saying closing the borders is racist. Watch AOC v. Harmon senate hearings from a few years back when the democrats were open bordering all over the place.
To be fair, there are some on the far-left who think that borders, at least the one in the US on the Southern side of the country, are racist. And while "open borders" is more of a stereotyped talking point, the idea of a more freely passable border that some from the left advocate for has many of the hallmarks of the open borders stereotype. Though to be fair, there are some centrist and even otherwise conservative Libertarians who advocate for some of those policies.
Yes! I'm beyond done with "democrats want open borders!" Wanting some combination of security and compassion is not "open borders" it's called nuance and is what is critical in thoughtful and effective governance.
12/24/24 The convicted criminal Donald trump, the best co man ever, is now making outrageous statements with Panama Canal and Greenland in hoping to divert the mainstream media’s attention on his nefarious nominees for his cabinets. DON’T BE FOOLED!
EV-ER-Y TIME Sarah talks about the border she claims that THE BORDER WAS WIDE OPEN. Or some variation of that. It's beyond maddening how wrong she is on one of the most divisive issues we face as normal democracy-loving Americans on Earth One.
There's a good bit of that on this channel. Lots of mischaracterization of "The Left." I don't sweat it. I know we could have a quick convo and correct these misunderstandings. I'd even VOTE for folks with these notions because they're reasonable and respect the rule of law. We can have a dialog if we at least have that. Ironically, I'm a literal open borders person. Imo we should have little kiosks all along both land borders. Walk in, check in, then report to an immigration center. The ICE centers would look like a nice mall with hostel facilities upstairs for day workers and, suites for refugee/immigrating families. Then ICE courts, a healthcare clinic, employment information, and other services downstairs. The difference is that I know it's a dream that will never happen. I'm totally willing to settle for fair laws, updated facilities and more efficient courts.
Not only that, tell a right wing person that Trump is going to do mass deportations, they'll remind you that Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump. So which is it? Was the border open or not? 😂😂😂 They don't make any sense.
The pie is shrinking however - CEOs and shareholders have been grabbing a bigger and bigger share of productivity since the 1970s. The pie available to US citizens has been shrinking.
This isn't necessarily true. Back in the 1980s my father would show me Bureau of Labor job categories that paid in the top 20%, both highly skilled blue collar and those that required a college degree. Little has changed. HIGHLY skilled blue collar jobs (CNC machinists) for example still do very well, as do those in the skilled trades. For college it was always medicine, law, STEM, accounting/finance/economics/business/higher education--in short anything technical and in demand is what pays. It's tough to get into the top 20% or top 10%. But most who do come from the working and middle class. Most millionaires own regional businesses and don't have college degrees. The problem with this discussion is that it does not differentiate between skilled labor and unskilled labor. It's unskilled labor that is having a hard time. There is little government can do about it. You have to learn more to earn more. You can't structure the economy to aid those with the least ambition.
@ realistically education itself doesn’t matter, but rather it is a proxy for networking ability. I hold a bachelors and masters in economics, and the only way they have ever helped me professionally is to help make friends with people who have professional connections that can later be leveraged to skip the application portal. Every professional job I’ve ever been able to get has been through those nepotistic connections, rather than my skill or ability, and that has largely been the case for other folks in my masters cohort and talking to other folks in white collar jobs. Of course the plural of anecdote isn’t statistics, but I’ve seen this story played out time and again. Personally, I wish I’d done a major that would’ve left me with skills I can actually use in an independent capacity, like computer science, rather than something that is hard to make use of without other people. And even there, the only Econ job I held was right out of undergrad, and it lasted six months before the 2008 financial crisis sent them out of business (it focused on real estate). After that those nepotistic connections are the only way I’ve found employment, which has been in the software sector.
@@ERIKM-ed9efand yet everything would come to a halt if no one picked up the garbage, grew and picked the crops, worked in factories and many of the other unskilled labor! Those at the top got there with the help of low paid, unskilled labor.
@@ERIKM-ed9ef with respect, you are wildly wrong in your statement. The US wealth distribution of the 1980s does not in any way resemble the distribution today. US citizens, Musk, Bezos, Zuck, have the combined wealth of the bottom 60% of American’s. Further. With the advance of AI, the white collar jobs will definitely be lost large scale. The challenge is Not supply currently, it is distribution and of course political will That successful white collar worker from the 1980’s just died, but thanks to changes to estate taxes, they can likely pass on $25M tax free to their heirs. In 1980, the estate tax kicked it at probably $1M at 50% rate as I recall. Just couldn’t be more different
@@ERIKM-ed9ef I'm in my late 30s, and I can say that education simply doesn't matter in the job market, unless its simply to check a box where there is a legal requirement for the job (e.g., need a hard science undergrad degree or 30 hours of natural science classes to apply to patent bar). The only value that education provides is to connect you with acquaintances who can help you find a job. I hold a bachelors and masters in Economics, and they did absolutely nothing to help me find a job. Every professional job I've ever gotten has been through nepotistic connections that has allowed me to skip the application portal, rather than simply being qualified under my own skills and merit. This has been the anecdotal experience of most of my grad school classmates as well - the degree did absolutely nothing. Similarly the phrases "salutatorian", "3.95 GPA", or "top 10 public university" mean absolutely nothing when it comes to submitting job applications. The only job I've ever found that was related to my major was right out of undergrad where I found employment at a real estate analysis firm (because I was in a retail job with the wife of the firm's Principal). However, it went out of business as the real estate crash of 2008 ramped up. As a result, I've been in the software industry for about 15 years - sure I can perform sophisticated statistical analysis or whatever when looking at data about my employees performance, but its not an Economics job. As this point, I do wish I'd done something like computer science that would have enabled me to be able to build something on my own, without depending on employment from other people. Being a skilled or talented person means exactly jack shit. The only thing that matters in being successful is nepotistic connections, and frankly I'd wished someone told me *that* at the start of college. Then instead of wasting time studying and focusing on academics, I'd have done the actually useful work of trying harder to make more friends. We've structured the economy around who knows who, rather than who is skilled or ambitious. There is no meritocracy in that.
I'm with JVL on the the Republicans. Don't want to plan right because they don't.I want a solution to immigration. George W. Bush tried to get one and couldn't. McCain worked on something and couldn't get it. I mean, this is a problem dating back To Reagan's amnesty, right? And they just would rather have the problem, the boogeyman to run on
Reagan believed a fair and welcoming immigration policy was one of the US' superpowers. There's a couple interesting speeches of his. on that topic. I'm a lefty so eff that guy but he had some okay notions. He imagined the engine of ever-expanding GDP, being driven by endless waves of immigrants coming for base wage jobs, then progressing to higher tax brackets, then another cohort of immigrants backfilling the low wage jobs. It's basically exploitive but also he was right, gawddammit. It fell apart in the Tea Party days. They saw a way to keep the exploitation without having to expand the blessings of full citizenship. _Just never give immigration money._ When problems inevitably multiplied, they said the chaos was because IMMIGRANTS were bad. When Presidents asked for more money, they basically demanded that immigration "make bricks without straw." Fix immigration, then we'll approve reforms, they said. It's an open secret in Congress that they've been keeping from Americans for 40 years.
I'm talking and talking with an american friend who has voted for Trump (I'm a 70 year old german woman ) and try desparetely to convince my girl-friend how bad the AfD is , and how history has TOLD US GERMANS ..... in vain ... and I try my very best ! 😥
A billionaire, a worker and an immigrant sit around a table with a bowl containing 1000 cookies. The billionaire takes 999 cookies, turns to the worker and says: "Watch out, the immigrant plans to steal yiour cookie!"
I seriously wonder how Trump is going to talk his way out of Musk supporting Neo Nazis. The US has a large community of Jews.Some are Very Rich and have backed Trump. This is a Project 2025 initiative,that puts Trump and Vance in the Headlights also,Not just Musk.
Elon could give every person, woman, man, child, immigrant, and dog in the United States a million dollars, and he would still have more than $399 billion for himself. This is why Americans are pissed off, children are hungry, people live on the streets, people have no health care, and on and on. The greed is insane, and Elon is not alone.
They have you focused on little ole Elon but the real problem is the trillion dollar hedgefunds and their cronies. That's the deep state that's causing all of your problems... our intelligence communities are working in lockstep with these people... Foreigners printing your money so they can get rich off of insider trading and market manipulation all with the help of the US government. Shameful
A billion is 1,000 millions. We have 350 million people in the United States, and he is close to 340 billion if I remember correctly. In other words, he could give about $900 to everyone, which is significant on its own. I don't think I could even give a cent to every American.
I'm Democrat by the way, but there are racist individuals in both parties. I would say though that those in the Republican party are more overt about it.
Not true at all, there's plenty of racist Dems, especially the anti white crowd on the left, you know the leftists that use acronym "YT" instead of white.
I can't imagine that any of the complacent, entitled Republican voters I know would actually be willing to do anything close to the sorts of jobs most immigrants are doing in the U.S., but I'm sure that they'd all uncritically accept the suggestion that immigrants are taking "our" jobs away from "us."
An experiment was done a few year back proving that point perfectly. It was farm work,picking vegetables. By 9 o'clock break,several had quit. By lunch break,the rest had quit. When asked why the quit,the answer was basically the same from everyone. It's too hard,too hot. These people were unemployed,both black and white people. They weren't willing to do the work. Yet they want to kick te very people who will do the work out of the country. England had a similar problem a few years ago. Pushed the immagrants out of the country. The citizens wouldn't do the farm work either. Fields of fruit and vegetables rotted in the fields.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” - John Kenneth Galbraith
Biden put it out there in 2021.Republicans had no interest and Biden felt it wasn’t worth the trouble. The fact is, if a legislative solution is to be found, both parties need to grow up, work together, and craft a solution.
There was a solution (of sorts) that senator Langford had worked with democrats that would have provided more agents and more judges to process people trying to get asylum. Then 45 just couldn't stand the thought that the ill would kill his talking points about immigration and fentynal, so told repuklicans to kill the bill!! This problem is on him,not the democrats!!
But at the same time Biden had the power to do it on his own the whole time and he didn’t until the end which to Sarah’s point the only thing the public took from it was you could’ve done this years ago and just chose not to
8:48 , Harris needs to start screaming about the diplomatic work she did in Latin America regarding migrants flows. That is actually paying off now, AND WITHOUT BUILDING A BORDER WALL. The new york times did a video on this only 3 days before election day. She needs to tell everyone : "it took some time to pay off simply bcz POLICIES TAKE TIME, TO PAY OFF ".
@ I like JVL. I often agree with him. and, he’s a contrarian who pushes back a lot. He guards against group think. If someone else’s argument has weaknesses or flaws, JVL will go after them. Therefore, people discussing issues with JVL will need strong arguments. JVL’s contrarianism gets him into trouble sometimes because his devils advocate comments (Biden supported border security and what did it get him?) miss the bigger context and lead to wrong conclusions - that comment about the border implies Biden should have done less but in reality he should have done what he did upon taking office and then done more on immigration.
Yall, my grandad had an interpteter at the German Prisoner of War camp during WWII. My sister lived with their family one Summer. Long story short, that family is incredibly fearful about anti immigration fever in Germany
Germany or any other major power, isolationism is dangerous to people inside and outside all of our borders. To paraphrase many extremists, if you're not for the world, you're against it.
My great uncle was an American GI during WWII. He was also an interpreter. But he went to concentration camps to interpret for people the Allies liberated because he spoke Yiddish and Hebrew.
Hey, German here. So our "anti immigration fever" is fueled by a stream of events like a mass rape wave in Cologne, the murder of a police officer in Mannheim, cases like Solingen and Munich, and the latest terror attack on a Christmas Market in Magdeburg. It is fueled by the fact, that all those acts of terror were committed by people, that were not allowed to be in the country in the first place. People that should have been deported years ago, because they had no right for asylum in Germany. And after this topic was ignored, swept under the rug, while people are harassed on social media when showing a diversion from the Mainstream political and social climate, especially when it's about the topic of migration. The popularity of the AfD is not only because people, me included, agree with them on many points, but because people are scared for their safety and future in their own country.
I thought of the same statement. Good fences make a good neighbors. And oh my goodness, Sara was wilfully obtuse with the subject of the AFD and using height the word hygiene. Yikes.
When people try to tell you who they are, listen. These people are telling us they are racist and/or have no issue with racism. We should be listening.
she seemed so clueless as to why this desctiptive was so cringe worthy... my expression mimicked jvl's because it free flowed so easily from her lips ...it was the type shyt that makes one raise one's eyebrow and say hmmmmm... there shouldn't be any more mistakes like this moving forward....
The concept of any country having a population that has a "true" definition of who belongs is obsolete. People will move to any successfull country because its better than where they live now. Countries that don't have an immigration problem are failed states or are so exclusive culturally that immigrants have little chance of belonging there. Those countries that have failed at attracting immigrants are economicly stagnant with declining populations and they are literally dieing out.
Not using hygiene while talking about Nazis has to do with the gas chambers. Nazi concentration camp guards lied to prisoners (mostly Jewish) when they arrived at the camps and told them they needed to shower for hygiene. Instead they were gassed and murdered.
Yes, civic hygene is an unfortunate choice of words when it comes to borders, and this Lady should not pretend she doesn't know what anybody is talking about when critzising her chosen retoric. If she really doesn't then I'm sorry, she doesn't belong.
Thank you for keeping us informed! I only follow 4/5 podcasts to acquire what is going on. Yes, I read, but I can't watch mainstream news anymore. Happy Holidays!
It's equally, if not more frightening to think that nukes are being put in the hands of trump. Hello! America can’t afford to throw stones when it lives in a glass house itself.
@@floxy20 Giving money away to the rich, he put the national debt up by 25%, and last time, he was surrounded by military people who militarily controlled him. I don't think that track record can be misinterpreted as good times.
Sarah talking about closing borders in regards to Germany shows her lack of understanding the European Union: The borders between the members of the European Union are always open, that is one of its core concept. Right now if you want to close borders you also have to leave the EU. You don't want Germany to leave the EU, it would massively destabilize the peace in Europe.
No, not actually. You can close the border temporarily (renewed every 6 month) by citing public order issues, and you can write national law that makes it illegal to transport people across the border who do not have valid EU-identifications. Sweden has done both.
Are said people that are so bothered by the immigrants going to step up and do the jobs that the immigrants do when they get deported so that the Farmers and business owners that employ them don't go out of business?????
Nope. The produce is gonna stay on the fields and food and construction prices are gonna rise. People are gonna blame it on democrats somehow and the Repubs will get even more votes because the electorate will be even more unsatisfied.
I had just finished reading another news article about this very thing...☹️ How he is supporting far right political parties in the UK, Italy, as well as Germany.
Do people not realize that the governments that colonized foreign countries, in past years, and allowed them to have passports into their countries, there wouldn't be such an immigration concern. The countries that colonized, other countries, to take their resources, created their own immigration issue.
9:42 Really? Immigration is a problem that neither Republicans and Democrats do not want to tackle. The problem is that immigration is complicated and ever changing.
Did you forget already (or nit know) that there was a comprehensive bi-partisan immigration bill with broad support in both the house and the Senate that Trump killed, so he could still run on immigration.
The AfD originated in eastern Germany, the part of the country that was controlled by ruZZia for 40+ years. At least, that's what I understood of it last summer, as a Dutchie, so take it with a grain of salt. ruZZia is inherently racist; they look down upon anything non-caucasian. That's their empire. Eastern Germany was impoverished when it re-united. And you can't lift a whole population out of poverty in 15 years time (that's when Syria started to blow up). So, the AfD is a reactionary party, originating in disgruntled east-Germans. And btw, the USSR never "reconsiliated" with the nazi-era. If you want memorabilia from that era, go to ruZZia. So, this latent nazi-ism was never rooted out in eastern Germany, only in western Germany.
The cognitive dissonance of it all. the USSR is/was very proud of beating the nazi's (thanks to the USA weapon deliveries, btw!) After the war, they occupied eastern Europe. So, now eastern Germans were suddenly "proud socialists", members of the Soviet Union. Where "communism" defeated "fascism" by installing the Animal Farm-regime. Essentially, they went from fascism to another form of oppression, never having to deal with the roots of their fascist past. They could secretly hold on to their beliefs, since their new regime was just as bad, just less open about it.
Correction: The AfD was originally founded in Hesse (West-Germany) as an anti-Euro (the currency) party by an economics professor. But since they didn't get far in the German political landscape have started to cosy up more and more to far-right talking points. However, their strongholds are in Eastern Germany.
Denazification in West Germany? Where did you learn your history. East Germany let go 3/4 of all their teachers and 4/5 of all their judges from the Nazi Era, while replacing them with regular people from the streets (asking them if they want to become teachers and judges, not picking up the homeless). Additionally, many companies who had major faults at the horrors of WW2 were expropriated, after a democratic vote with 76% in favor of this was held. This happened from 1946 to 1948. AND WHAT DID THE WEST DO IN THAT TIME? Hand out the so-called "Persilscheine", where someone's crimes and actions during the Nazi Regime were immediately pardoned, without any repercussions.
Sarah is wrong again. She needs to talk to Historians about end of reconstruction and the rise of the Nazi party. These two time periods have something in common on what's going on today
The Nazi party (and also Communism) rose from the horrors of world war 1, where 2 million german soldiers died. Many of them where ordered by their highborn commanders to run directly into machinegun fire. Its just the sort of trauma that will radicalize you to the idea that somebody doesn't have your best interests at heart.
Democrats fought the new Republican Party that was started to end slavery. The democrat flag, the confederate flag is often attributed to Republicans but that is ridiculous. Lincoln was a Republican. Best president ever.
JVL's mistake on immigration is one that I see often on many topics: you don't have to win on an issue to justify change, you only have to lose less badly.
There is a woman Senator from Texas. Grainger is her last name. She’s 81. She’s been missing for six months. She’s a Republican. They found her. She has dementia and she’s in a care facility. Her house is sold. Why hasn’t she been replaced?Why are Republicans not notifying Congress of this? Are they submitting votes for her? What’s happening!
It seems the lack of a local press outlet meant no one really noticed. Of course, the same cannot be said for her colleagues in the House. Can you imagine disappearing from work for months, with full pay and no questions. We need a healthy Press
In JVL's defence (and also in defence of misrepresentations of the left that you guys casually base on what I guess you see online): Far right anti-immigrant parties throughout history are almost always ultra-nationalist (and scapegoating some marginalized group) as well. So the "far left", when talking about the issues of anti-immigration and nationalism, are pointing out that there are the two sides of the far right wing coin that push a country into fascism. it's pointing out a correlation between two ideas. Trump's slogan isn't "kick immigrants out" (though has certainly slid down that), it started with "make America Great Again". In addition, as in the case of the US, UK, and so on, it is a bit of a pattern that countries that invaded other countries, creating the need for refugees, that then turned around and insisted on strong borders the most. It's a part of the projection sometimes. I am not saying it is the only argument/perspective you could take on the issue and that there isn't some moderation needed for all different perspectives to be thought about. But I think if you were to accuse the Democrats of being "hostage to the far left" because "they think borders are racist", you have a responsibility to do more than uncritically repeat what is largely a Republican talking point/portrayal of the left that is not reflective of the fact that actual Democrats are actual adults with competency and most of them are too old to have sat through an undergrad class on critical theory at all.
He should support prince Harry, to provide a viable alternative monarch. You know, to keep the historical echoes going. I mean, he is married to an American divorcee
Why aren't Democrats out NOW talking about anything? Where did they go? Why can't we have a big stupid party in Arizona? I remember when Hillary lost and NO ONE WAS DOING ANYTHING. Crickets. Could someone please do freaking something?
Yes, that's was a great comeback! Yes, yes, yes, YES!! I'm NOT blaming immigrants for the price of eggs, but it was good, JVL! I chuckled, and I needed that so 'yes, yes, yes, YES!!
Please don't lump the UK in with the EU. We voted in a left party in July. Germany need to be really careful. It didn't work so well for them in the 1st & 2nd world wars!
Unfortunately Musk is trying to boost Farage like he did trump. And reading UA-cam comments from people in UK, especially England, on the Guardian/Sun/BBC etc sites, they are pro trump, anti-immigrant and against Starmer.
I can't see that much difference between Nigel Farrage and Alice Weide (Chairwoman of AFD) when you listen to their speeches and there are rumors about Russian funding in the past about both parties.
Imo the developed world will be too busy dealing with climate disasters to develop nukes. Next Spring, as storm season starts in the Northern Hemisphere, we're all going to start facing the reality that more and more of our resources will have to go toward weather disaster mitigation.
Biden told them to come on up - and they just let them cross the border and enter. Yes we have about 10 million people cross the border but if you stay in the white suburbs of America you don't know there's a problem because you're too rich to know.
I'm sorry but how can you guys discuss the political situation in Germany without mentioning the terrorist attack on the Christmas Market at the weekend? So much for having your finger on the pulse. I cannot believe Sarah failed to see the significance of using. the term hygienic in the context being discussed- holy shit the naivety/ignorance of politics/history beyond the US border. Elon Musk's ancestors were Nazi's and many in racist South Africa supported Nazi doctrine during the Third Reich. It's in Musk's DNA. As far as National borders are concerned every American commentator/politician fails to mention the ticking time bomb of massive immigration due to the changing climate- it has been identified as the biggest problem facing the stability of the world order as humans escape the scorching uninhabitable regions of the planet- coming soon!
JVL - {Germany} "this country which has slit the throat of the world twice in the last 100 years". Germany in WW2 run by the Nazis was a true existential threat to what was good and moral in the world. Germany WW1 (a) wasn't in the last hundred years (picky, I know, but true) and (b) was more of a classic war for territory and having colonies than anything else.
So they imposed the treaty of Versailles after WW1 and didn't expect to be a backlash because of it? How stupid were the leaders of the west back then? Not saying what Adolf and his cronies did was fair in any shape or form but they should have seen it coming. It was a mess of their own making too.
MAGA, whatever you do, just remember this: Elon and Trump are your daddies, and having two daddies is considered woke.
And liberals, remember this: Whatever it is you want going forward = automatic NO.
This is a hilariously bad line of attack.
Elon is clearly the mommy
@@christopher3790just like lock her up?
The previous two responses are dead wrong.
This is fkn hilarious... and true.
As a German, I have to comment on this: Yes, the AfD is an extreme right-wing party. Yes, there are links between national socialist groups and this party. Yes, the AfD is bad (in my opinion). Nevertheless, there are other NS-parties in Germany and some far-right groups who think that the AfD is not far-right in the right way or is not far-right enough.
The AfD is to a large extent a Trumpist party, not in relation to Trump the person, but in relation to the measures and actions promised by Trump, such as mass deportations, anti-wokeness aganda, racism, pro-Putin stances, isolationist policies etc.
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In contrast to the AfD, there are also parties that are much less secretive about their Nazi ideology, such as the "Der III. Weg" ("The Third Way") or the NPD.
In contrast to the AfD, there are also parties that are much less secretive about their NS-ideology, such as “Der III. Weg“ (”The Thrid Way") or the NPD.
Thanks for the info. It was scary enough, I really don’t understand how putler doesn’t remind them of the horror of what happened to 1940s Germany
11:40 - I would be too. :(
I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem -- greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SS! will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with Stephanie Janis Stiefel my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.
I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.
I’m planning on moving to Thailand in the next 5 years if trump’s government doesn’t do anything with the high prices of groceries and taxes
What about you??
My sister lives in Aussie. They have good healthcare better than America. I am also moving there after I retire.
I went from no money to Invest with to busting my A** off on Uber eats for four months to raise about $20k to start trading with Stephanie Janis Stiefel. I am at $128k right now and LOVING that you have to bring this up here
Please stop gentrifying countries
If we're all freaking out about the people looking for jobs crossing borders and fighting each other over petty differences, we're not focused on the army crossing east European borders, or the rich people already in our countries taking our money, health and safety. Russia and their friends like Trump and Musk love this.
Spot on
Yep. Just a big distraction.
Trump is YOUR Daddy. Again.
The guy who just drove his car through the German Christmas market , killing and injuring many, also supported the AFD party, as does Musk. Let's just say that the party attracts nut-jobs.
Or people that are tired of American hegemony within Europe.
@@Swedishpolymath you just found a way to say “I’m a nut job” but in a less offensive way. Way to go… and I’m not alone in my ability to read between the lines, there knucklehead 😂… let’s see what others might have to say…commence ragging on the AFD party supporter here, who would like to be known as someone that is Swedish.
Yes, but he was also a Saudi immigrant.
@@gerarddearie-zd2gb Hmm, I see a lot of interesting connections. Apparently he had been there (in Germany) since 2006 (Germany World Cup 2006). Osama bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia.
There is the Qatar World Cup 2022 that should never have happened and the FIFA World Cup 2034 in Saudi Arabia that will never happen. Guys you are almost there.
Google Taqiyya. Hadiths condone lying to Infidels to infiltrate and conduct Jihad. Possibly lied about being atheist to avoid extradition to Saudi Arabia.
Native German, naturalized citizen here.
The AfD was founded a little over 10 years ago by retired business leaders, economists, university professors, teachers, and other academia, to provide an alternative to the established parties, which there were five with nationwide significance. Christian Democrats, Social Democrats, Green Party, Liberals, and Socialists (slightly simplified). AfD wanted to counter, in their view, too EU-friendly policies. What I thought was foolhardy already, since Germany benefitted from the EU and its growth like no other country in the union, quickly evolved into an all-out anti-EU-movement. Soon after that, openly far-right tendencies became visible, much of the founding academia left the AfD in frustration, or were pushed out by far-right protagonists, and the party became a cesspool of racists, neo-nazis, conspiracy-theorists, etc.. Several years ago, some of the local chapters were put under observation of the federal constitution protection agency (Bundesverfassungsschutz), since almost three years, the entire party is under observation. AfD grew strongest after German government, under chancellor Merkel, decided to open the borders for immigrants from Syria, and during the refugee-crisis, fueled and intensified by Russian support of the Assad-regime, hundreds of thousands found refuge in Germany. In tow came many refugees from African countries as well. Russia, by financially supporting the AfD on the right, and socialists on the left (look up BSW, Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht), are systematically undermining trust in the political establishment. Same as here in the US, political actors on the fringes are exploiting the insecurities of the population for their own gain, playing into the hands of outside forces, which see their biggest threat in functioning free, open, democratic societies. It is up to us to keep the order of our republic.
Why people have to trust the political establishment by default? I don't get it. The trust is earned and the establishment forget they have to serve the people. I cannot think of a concrete example of the ordinary people that will have the drive to trust the establishment by default. Only if you are loyal D/R party member.
@ No disagreement here. I just wanted to shed some light on the history and development of the AfD, since it is now in the international spotlight. The rise of the AfD in Germany, and the MAGA-movement in the USA, can to a good degree be attributed to the inability, and/or unwillingness, of the political establishment to explain their policies to the electorate, and listen to the same, and act accordingly. This has created a vacuum of social satisfaction, which is filled primarily by bad actors.
"It is up to us to keep the order of our republic."
It most certainly is. And the rest of us are keeping a very wary eye. Your country has an unfortunate record. Some of us were a bit concerned when reunification happened. It is notable that the AfD is primarily made up of what were East Germans. Somewhat ironic, given who Angela Merkel is.
@@Nat.Citizen the same kind of discontent has been sowed here in Canada over the last nine years.
2013 EU skeptics > 2016 xenophobia, pro-Putin, anti-NATO. Far too many similarities to fall for the apologist, whitewashed view.
JD Vance/Musk and AFD: never forget that Peter Thiel is just out of site in the shadows.
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Trump is YOUR Daddy. Again.
Yes, Peter Thiel could be on SITE but “just out of SIGHT in the shadows”. 😊You’re welcome.
The last time we used blaming immigrants for all of our issues..the Billionaires and banks tanked our economy in 2007 into 2008. It’s just a “look at the bright shiny object over here!” tactic, to make us think that the current billionaires aren’t also screwing us, once again. We never learn our lesson….
I seem to remember it was half government mandates to sell houses to people who couldn’t afford it, and half rich people making bets on bullshit financial products based on said-mortgages. But nuance, who knew.
@@Liquidmuse3 Yes, there were no people buying houses as investment vehicles. People definitely need multiple homes.
It’s crypto that’s going to be the boom and bust this time watch out 😮
@@Liquidmuse3It wasn't government mandates, but government deregulation.
Denial denial distract .
When JVL has to correct Sarah on why terms like ‘hygienic’ are inappropriate it reminds me how much work she has to do. And as Indigenous woman I find it quite typical, oops there I go with my identity politics again. I know how you feel about that.
If you want to be respected for fighting on the good side then you have to do more than just hate Trump. It’s not just about the far left, they don’t run shit.
We don’t all have your privilege and remember that when it comes to the immigration issues they’re never speaking of people like your mother who immigrated here from England. Remember most illegal status people are visa overstayers. Do better.
I totally agree... sometimes her views are a little skewed and seemingly marinated in a zest privilege
I totally disagree I found him quite annoying and distracting from the points she were trying to make. If anything, stuff like this is what bogs the party down from being effective. Like who gives a fuck about the language if we are agreeing about the sentiment? Politics is about outcomes, it’s not PR/HR for some company. It’s wokesplaining, as cringe as that sounds.
This is coming from a black American... if that means anything.
People pearl clutching over an innocuous word choice is huge part of why Trump is so popular. This shit is cringe and very few people like it.
No, Sarah, the family is not just "white;" it's that they are blonde --which is associated, but not limited to, Aryan characteristics. Italians, for example, are white, but tend not to be blonde.
Italians: the beautiful people cooking up delicious food and amazing fashion
Are Scandinavians Aryan then?
In America Italians were not considered white until recently.
Correction : Red Sauce is the cornerstone of #SicilianCuisine .. Rome is the only other place on the mainland with #RedSauces which R tomato-based & tomatoes originated in the *New world* in Mexico like oranges, chocolates & so much more. I am not familiar with #SardinianCuisine enough to speak abt it. Sorry. Never met a Sardinian until after I was over 20 yrs. old. ❤
Yeah that was a ridiculous statement. The hair/eye color was significant in the context of of the picture.
I have just watched the 2021 Holocaust series about the US policy approach to dealing with Jewish refugees from 1933 to 1951. The parallels with what is going today is scary.
Exactly. Germany got some of their ideas from the US. The US really didn't want to take in any of the population trying to flee, either.
Having a strong union that protect your job is a billion times better than having a "strong border"
💯plus a global workers’ movement
100% TRUTH!!!
@@celestialtreetarot4260 A global workers movement is known as socialism, or Marxism. It already exist and was very popular 100 years ago.
Excellent point. It is the Elon's of 'the world' (or of the USA) who are doing the most harm and want to stop the "power" of the unions....this could all be their agenda. To keep wages low and make more money!
The Democrat Party expected the unions to automatically support them. Sean O'Brien, president of the Teamsters Union, mentioned several incidents with Kamala Harris during the Biden campaign and later her campaign concerning the Teamsters.
When Biden was running for his second term, Kamala confronted a Teamster official during a social event. Kamala wagged her finger in the woman Teamster's face and told her the union needed to support Biden.
Later when Kamala was the presidential candidate, she along with the other presidential candidates was invited to answer sixteen pre-given questions to the Teamsters. Kamala at first balked at answering more than three questions. When she did appear with the Teamsters, she then answered only three questions and cut the session short.
As she left the session, Kamala then told the Teamster president, "I am going to win with you or without you." You probably remember that the Teamsters were not invited to the Democrat Convention. They also did not endorse a presidential candidate.
Unions are only as strong as the government's cooperation. Traditionally, unions have supported close borders as a way to protect their members' well-paid secure jobs from cheap labor.
4:58 the average person has no idea what is going on in politics here at home, let alone have a clue about political parties in other countries...the fact that authoritarian oligarchy is taking over the planet is beyond comprehension for folks who have always been free.
Authoritarianism is what we just avoided with a conservative win. Kamilla and the WEF had big plans for pushing forward their globalist one world government agenda.
I don't understand it, either, and it seems to be spreading. Why would people want to go back to that?
@@BrigidFitch2112It’s not the people, if anything the majority of people, globally are way way more progressive, ya know, wanting the future to be better and more equitable and just for all… It’s the “leaders” who are forcing themselves into power and trying to drag us all right, mostly against our will, or brainwash others. We, the people must UNITE!! 🩷
Things been brewing over there for a while now. I believe they foiled a huge nazi terror plot just a few yrs ago
@@BrigidFitch2112 Social media and Reality TV ate our democracy.
As usual, JVL is right on the money. He's sensitive to racism in a way that Sarah just isn't.
And aware of history in a away that Sarah just isn't. But then, she also thinks Reagan was great so there's that.
If Trumpism is all kayfabe, that just makes it worse. It means all the people who support him know better and are severely derelict in their civic duty.
Don't worry; the people in her focus groups told her they're not racist 🙄
Sarah is falling for the conservative framing of a liberal position. No one wants open borders, no one thinks borders are racist. Those are Republican talking points. We are saying "Border policy hasn't been updated since Reagan and it's time to do that in a professional and humane way.
No she's not, you missed what she was saying, maybe she used the wrong word, Why are you jumping on her for that, she made a mistake. You've obviously never done that in your life?Really?
There were plenty of democrats saying closing the borders is racist. Watch AOC v. Harmon senate hearings from a few years back when the democrats were open bordering all over the place.
To be fair, there are some on the far-left who think that borders, at least the one in the US on the Southern side of the country, are racist. And while "open borders" is more of a stereotyped talking point, the idea of a more freely passable border that some from the left advocate for has many of the hallmarks of the open borders stereotype. Though to be fair, there are some centrist and even otherwise conservative Libertarians who advocate for some of those policies.
Yes! I'm beyond done with "democrats want open borders!" Wanting some combination of security and compassion is not "open borders" it's called nuance and is what is critical in thoughtful and effective governance.
Thank you for all your sane content!! Merry Christmas to everyone at the Bulwark!
12/24/24
The convicted criminal Donald trump, the best co man ever, is now making outrageous statements with Panama Canal and Greenland in hoping to divert the mainstream media’s attention on his nefarious nominees for his cabinets. DON’T BE FOOLED!
This fascistic wave in the US and Germany is fucking terrifying.
EV-ER-Y TIME Sarah talks about the border she claims that THE BORDER WAS WIDE OPEN. Or some variation of that. It's beyond maddening how wrong she is on one of the most divisive issues we face as normal democracy-loving Americans on Earth One.
There's a good bit of that on this channel. Lots of mischaracterization of "The Left." I don't sweat it. I know we could have a quick convo and correct these misunderstandings.
I'd even VOTE for folks with these notions because they're reasonable and respect the rule of law. We can have a dialog if we at least have that.
Ironically, I'm a literal open borders person. Imo we should have little kiosks all along both land borders.
Walk in, check in, then report to an immigration center. The ICE centers would look like a nice mall with hostel facilities upstairs for day workers and, suites for refugee/immigrating families. Then ICE courts, a healthcare clinic, employment information, and other services downstairs.
The difference is that I know it's a dream that will never happen. I'm totally willing to settle for fair laws, updated facilities and more efficient courts.
TRUMP had caravans coming all through 2018 and 19.
True. An open border is what you find between Michigan an Ohio.
Not only that, tell a right wing person that Trump is going to do mass deportations, they'll remind you that Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump.
So which is it? Was the border open or not? 😂😂😂 They don't make any sense.
Agree
The pie is shrinking however - CEOs and shareholders have been grabbing a bigger and bigger share of productivity since the 1970s. The pie available to US citizens has been shrinking.
This isn't necessarily true. Back in the 1980s my father would show me Bureau of Labor job categories that paid in the top 20%, both highly skilled blue collar and those that required a college degree. Little has changed. HIGHLY skilled blue collar jobs (CNC machinists) for example still do very well, as do those in the skilled trades. For college it was always medicine, law, STEM, accounting/finance/economics/business/higher education--in short anything technical and in demand is what pays. It's tough to get into the top 20% or top 10%. But most who do come from the working and middle class. Most millionaires own regional businesses and don't have college degrees. The problem with this discussion is that it does not differentiate between skilled labor and unskilled labor. It's unskilled labor that is having a hard time. There is little government can do about it. You have to learn more to earn more. You can't structure the economy to aid those with the least ambition.
@ realistically education itself doesn’t matter, but rather it is a proxy for networking ability. I hold a bachelors and masters in economics, and the only way they have ever helped me professionally is to help make friends with people who have professional connections that can later be leveraged to skip the application portal. Every professional job I’ve ever been able to get has been through those nepotistic connections, rather than my skill or ability, and that has largely been the case for other folks in my masters cohort and talking to other folks in white collar jobs. Of course the plural of anecdote isn’t statistics, but I’ve seen this story played out time and again. Personally, I wish I’d done a major that would’ve left me with skills I can actually use in an independent capacity, like computer science, rather than something that is hard to make use of without other people. And even there, the only Econ job I held was right out of undergrad, and it lasted six months before the 2008 financial crisis sent them out of business (it focused on real estate). After that those nepotistic connections are the only way I’ve found employment, which has been in the software sector.
@@ERIKM-ed9efand yet everything would come to a halt if no one picked up the garbage, grew and picked the crops, worked in factories and many of the other unskilled labor! Those at the top got there with the help of low paid, unskilled labor.
@@ERIKM-ed9ef with respect, you are wildly wrong in your statement. The US wealth distribution of the 1980s does not in any way resemble the distribution today. US citizens, Musk, Bezos, Zuck, have the combined wealth of the bottom 60% of American’s.
Further. With the advance of AI, the white collar jobs will definitely be lost large scale.
The challenge is Not supply currently, it is distribution and of course political will
That successful white collar worker from the 1980’s just died, but thanks to changes to estate taxes, they can likely pass on $25M tax free to their heirs. In 1980, the estate tax kicked it at probably $1M at 50% rate as I recall. Just couldn’t be more different
@@ERIKM-ed9ef I'm in my late 30s, and I can say that education simply doesn't matter in the job market, unless its simply to check a box where there is a legal requirement for the job (e.g., need a hard science undergrad degree or 30 hours of natural science classes to apply to patent bar). The only value that education provides is to connect you with acquaintances who can help you find a job. I hold a bachelors and masters in Economics, and they did absolutely nothing to help me find a job. Every professional job I've ever gotten has been through nepotistic connections that has allowed me to skip the application portal, rather than simply being qualified under my own skills and merit.
This has been the anecdotal experience of most of my grad school classmates as well - the degree did absolutely nothing. Similarly the phrases "salutatorian", "3.95 GPA", or "top 10 public university" mean absolutely nothing when it comes to submitting job applications.
The only job I've ever found that was related to my major was right out of undergrad where I found employment at a real estate analysis firm (because I was in a retail job with the wife of the firm's Principal). However, it went out of business as the real estate crash of 2008 ramped up. As a result, I've been in the software industry for about 15 years - sure I can perform sophisticated statistical analysis or whatever when looking at data about my employees performance, but its not an Economics job. As this point, I do wish I'd done something like computer science that would have enabled me to be able to build something on my own, without depending on employment from other people.
Being a skilled or talented person means exactly jack shit. The only thing that matters in being successful is nepotistic connections, and frankly I'd wished someone told me *that* at the start of college. Then instead of wasting time studying and focusing on academics, I'd have done the actually useful work of trying harder to make more friends.
We've structured the economy around who knows who, rather than who is skilled or ambitious. There is no meritocracy in that.
I'm with JVL on the the Republicans. Don't want to plan right because they don't.I want a solution to immigration. George W. Bush tried to get one and couldn't. McCain worked on something and couldn't get it.
I mean, this is a problem dating back To Reagan's amnesty, right? And they just would rather have the problem, the boogeyman to run on
Reagan’s amnesty was about providing cheap, controllable labour,,I believe. If you are looking for who to blame
Reagan gave amnesty but the Democrats did not hold up their end of the deal. We cant give amnesty all the time without enforcing the border.
Makes an easier target.
A pathway to citizenship and a border wall was proposed by Trump. Couldn't get the votes.
Reagan believed a fair and welcoming immigration policy was one of the US' superpowers. There's a couple interesting speeches of his. on that topic.
I'm a lefty so eff that guy but he had some okay notions. He imagined the engine of ever-expanding GDP, being driven by endless waves of immigrants coming for base wage jobs, then progressing to higher tax brackets, then another cohort of immigrants backfilling the low wage jobs. It's basically exploitive but also he was right, gawddammit.
It fell apart in the Tea Party days. They saw a way to keep the exploitation without having to expand the blessings of full citizenship.
_Just never give immigration money._ When problems inevitably multiplied, they said the chaos was because IMMIGRANTS were bad.
When Presidents asked for more money, they basically demanded that immigration "make bricks without straw." Fix immigration, then we'll approve reforms, they said.
It's an open secret in Congress that they've been keeping from Americans for 40 years.
I'm talking and talking with an american friend who has voted for Trump (I'm a 70 year old german woman ) and try desparetely to convince my girl-friend how bad the AfD is , and how history has TOLD US GERMANS ..... in vain ... and I try my very best ! 😥
A billionaire, a worker and an immigrant sit around a table with a bowl containing 1000 cookies.
The billionaire takes 999 cookies, turns to the worker and says: "Watch out, the immigrant plans to steal yiour cookie!"
Here in Germany we usually tell this joke with smaller numbers, but I thought I better adapt it to a US audience.
I seriously wonder how Trump is going to talk his way out of Musk supporting Neo Nazis.
The US has a large community of Jews.Some are Very Rich and have backed Trump.
This is a Project 2025 initiative,that puts Trump and Vance in the Headlights also,Not just Musk.
What if the billionaire is also an immigrant?
@andreasvox8068, also, you should use smaller numbers not bigger for Americans.
Who do you think raised $1.25 billion for Harris' campaign? Immigrants?
Elon could give every person, woman, man, child, immigrant, and dog in the United States a million dollars, and he would still have more than $399 billion for himself. This is why Americans are pissed off, children are hungry, people live on the streets, people have no health care, and on and on. The greed is insane, and Elon is not alone.
Elon doesn’t have to give anyone a million dollars. And no one should force anyone to do so.
What? That's over 350 trillion dollars
They have you focused on little ole Elon but the real problem is the trillion dollar hedgefunds and their cronies. That's the deep state that's causing all of your problems... our intelligence communities are working in lockstep with these people... Foreigners printing your money so they can get rich off of insider trading and market manipulation all with the help of the US government. Shameful
Mathing is hard. 😩
A billion is 1,000 millions. We have 350 million people in the United States, and he is close to 340 billion if I remember correctly. In other words, he could give about $900 to everyone, which is significant on its own. I don't think I could even give a cent to every American.
Kind of like how all MAGA people aren’t racist but all racist are MAGA😂
That's funny but definitely untrue.
Keep believing that and keep losing elections. Sounds like a plan that I can live with.
There are surely some Trump voters who aren't solidly racist, merely stupid. But racism is definitely at the core of the real MAGA faithful.
I'm Democrat by the way, but there are racist individuals in both parties. I would say though that those in the Republican party are more overt about it.
Not true at all, there's plenty of racist Dems, especially the anti white crowd on the left, you know the leftists that use acronym "YT" instead of white.
I can't imagine that any of the complacent, entitled Republican voters I know would actually be willing to do anything close to the sorts of jobs most immigrants are doing in the U.S., but I'm sure that they'd all uncritically accept the suggestion that immigrants are taking "our" jobs away from "us."
Your thinking is 4 years behind. They have infiltrated the American job market.
An experiment was done a few year back proving that point perfectly. It was farm work,picking vegetables. By 9 o'clock break,several had quit. By lunch break,the rest had quit. When asked why the quit,the answer was basically the same from everyone. It's too hard,too hot. These people were unemployed,both black and white people. They weren't willing to do the work. Yet they want to kick te very people who will do the work out of the country. England had a similar problem a few years ago. Pushed the immagrants out of the country. The citizens wouldn't do the farm work either. Fields of fruit and vegetables rotted in the fields.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
- John Kenneth Galbraith
We need to deal with the wealth of the most powerful and wealthiest.
NOW!
Yeah, missed that opportunity
Need new laws and IRS enforcement!!!!!
Biden put it out there in 2021.Republicans had no interest and Biden felt it wasn’t worth the trouble. The fact is, if a legislative solution is to be found, both parties need to grow up, work together, and craft a solution.
There was a solution (of sorts) that senator Langford had worked with democrats that would have provided more agents and more judges to process people trying to get asylum. Then 45 just couldn't stand the thought that the ill would kill his talking points about immigration and fentynal, so told repuklicans to kill the bill!! This problem is on him,not the democrats!!
But at the same time Biden had the power to do it on his own the whole time and he didn’t until the end which to Sarah’s point the only thing the public took from it was you could’ve done this years ago and just chose not to
8:48 , Harris needs to start screaming about the diplomatic work she did in Latin America regarding migrants flows. That is actually paying off now, AND WITHOUT BUILDING A BORDER WALL. The new york times did a video on this only 3 days before election day. She needs to tell everyone : "it took some time to pay off simply bcz POLICIES TAKE TIME, TO PAY OFF ".
Every group needs a JVL to make everyone else's arguments more strong and clear.
JVL's arguments are very "strong and clear". What are you saying? Maybe you just don't agree with them?!
@ I like JVL. I often agree with him. and, he’s a contrarian who pushes back a lot. He guards against group think. If someone else’s argument has weaknesses or flaws, JVL will go after them. Therefore, people discussing issues with JVL will need strong arguments.
JVL’s contrarianism gets him into trouble sometimes because his devils advocate comments (Biden supported border security and what did it get him?) miss the bigger context and lead to wrong conclusions - that comment about the border implies Biden should have done less but in reality he should have done what he did upon taking office and then done more on immigration.
Sarah: MCCAIN-KENNEDY BILL 2005, HUGE reform. Never got a vote in the Senate.
Why was that, Sarah???
Happy Christmas Guys!!!! I'm so happy to find your video today ... thank you ...
Yall, my grandad had an interpteter at the German Prisoner of War camp during WWII. My sister lived with their family one Summer. Long story short, that family is incredibly fearful about anti immigration fever in Germany
Germany or any other major power, isolationism is dangerous to people inside and outside all of our borders.
To paraphrase many extremists, if you're not for the world, you're against it.
My great uncle was an American GI during WWII. He was also an interpreter. But he went to concentration camps to interpret for people the Allies liberated because he spoke Yiddish and Hebrew.
Hey, German here. So our "anti immigration fever" is fueled by a stream of events like a mass rape wave in Cologne, the murder of a police officer in Mannheim, cases like Solingen and Munich, and the latest terror attack on a Christmas Market in Magdeburg. It is fueled by the fact, that all those acts of terror were committed by people, that were not allowed to be in the country in the first place. People that should have been deported years ago, because they had no right for asylum in Germany. And after this topic was ignored, swept under the rug, while people are harassed on social media when showing a diversion from the Mainstream political and social climate, especially when it's about the topic of migration. The popularity of the AfD is not only because people, me included, agree with them on many points, but because people are scared for their safety and future in their own country.
The "Pie IS Shrinking" and the Immigrant who is taking it is Elon Musk
But but my Cybertruck! /sarcasm/
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6:30 SARAH!!! GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS!!!!! Yes do not call it hygiene. I literally cringed 😂❤
I thought of the same statement. Good fences make a good neighbors.
And oh my goodness, Sara was wilfully obtuse with the subject of the AFD and using height the word hygiene. Yikes.
Love Sarah, but we can't be using the term hygiene!
As a German, I can only say jvl does a very apt description of the afd
When people try to tell you who they are, listen. These people are telling us they are racist and/or have no issue with racism. We should be listening.
Seriously. Taking citizen jobs? Tell me what Americans are willing to do the work of any one in the H-2A program. And so much more
Happy Christmas guys. We love you. Thanks for your bravery...
what an amazing point about NATO.
"Civic hygeine" angered me. It definitely has Nazi overtones and negative connotations related to the Nazi regime of Hitler.
Slipping into using that term is a straight-up friendship breaker/credibility loss.
she seemed so clueless as to why this desctiptive was so cringe worthy... my expression mimicked jvl's because it free flowed so easily from her lips ...it was the type shyt that makes one raise one's eyebrow and say hmmmmm... there shouldn't be any more mistakes like this moving forward....
And related to eugenics movements everywhere there were eugenics movements.
The concept of any country having a population that has a "true" definition of who belongs is obsolete. People will move to any successfull country because its better than where they live now. Countries that don't have an immigration problem are failed states or are so exclusive culturally that immigrants have little chance of belonging there. Those countries that have failed at attracting immigrants are economicly stagnant with declining populations and they are literally dieing out.
6:15 using the word hygiene implies something dirty, unclean, unsafe in opposition.
Not using hygiene while talking about Nazis has to do with the gas chambers. Nazi concentration camp guards lied to prisoners (mostly Jewish) when they arrived at the camps and told them they needed to shower for hygiene. Instead they were gassed and murdered.
@ I think we both agree then that Sarah’s use was in poor context. It was a slip up on her part and I am glad JVL corrected the language
there's a long history of that word being used in eugenicist contexts
Yes, civic hygene is an unfortunate choice of words when it comes to borders, and this Lady should not pretend she doesn't know what anybody is talking about when critzising her chosen retoric. If she really doesn't then I'm sorry, she doesn't belong.
Thank you for keeping us informed! I only follow 4/5 podcasts to acquire what is going on. Yes, I read, but I can't watch mainstream news anymore. Happy Holidays!
It's equally, if not more frightening to think that nukes are being put in the hands of trump. Hello! America can’t afford to throw stones when it lives in a glass house itself.
The man who wanted to nuke North Korea and blame someone else!
No longer a worry for those who are reasonable. Remember Trump was in power for four years without nuclear war. Just good times.
What's equally frightening is MAGA thinks there too many people on the planet and pray for another pandemic.
@@floxy20 Giving money away to the rich, he put the national debt up by 25%, and last time, he was surrounded by military people who militarily controlled him. I don't think that track record can be misinterpreted as good times.
Sarah talking about closing borders in regards to Germany shows her lack of understanding the European Union: The borders between the members of the European Union are always open, that is one of its core concept. Right now if you want to close borders you also have to leave the EU. You don't want Germany to leave the EU, it would massively destabilize the peace in Europe.
No, not actually. You can close the border temporarily (renewed every 6 month) by citing public order issues, and you can write national law that makes it illegal to transport people across the border who do not have valid EU-identifications. Sweden has done both.
JVL is right
The steps to placate the right only add credibility to their arguments
Are said people that are so bothered by the immigrants going to step up and do the jobs that the immigrants do when they get deported so that the Farmers and business owners that employ them don't go out of business?????
Nope. The produce is gonna stay on the fields and food and construction prices are gonna rise. People are gonna blame it on democrats somehow and the Repubs will get even more votes because the electorate will be even more unsatisfied.
I had just finished reading another news article about this very thing...☹️ How he is supporting far right political parties in the UK, Italy, as well as Germany.
Do people not realize that the governments that colonized foreign countries, in past years, and allowed them to have passports into their countries, there wouldn't be such an immigration concern. The countries that colonized, other countries, to take their resources, created their own immigration issue.
Ms. Longwell needs to stop white washing (no pun intended) categories. If one supports a major premise of a party or movement, then they are that.
“Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.”
- George Orwell, 1984
You guys (plus Tim) are the best- HNY and thx for all you do!!!
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Just call him....
President X. Lol
Hello from west coast of Canada.
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🖐🇺🇲💙🇨🇦 merry Christmas and have a good new year!!
Sarah saying “good civic hygiene” in the context of discussing Neo-Nazis is seriously tone deaf. Wow. How could she not pick up on that?
9:42 Really? Immigration is a problem that neither Republicans and Democrats do not want to tackle. The problem is that immigration is complicated and ever changing.
Did you forget already (or nit know) that there was a comprehensive bi-partisan immigration bill with broad support in both the house and the Senate that Trump killed, so he could still run on immigration.
I would really like someone to explain to me what the "problem" with immigration is. What is the issue?
Thank you, both, for making my Monday eve, eve, feel normal - as, I too, felt compelled to work! 😍 ❤👏
The AfD originated in eastern Germany, the part of the country that was controlled by ruZZia for 40+ years.
At least, that's what I understood of it last summer, as a Dutchie, so take it with a grain of salt.
ruZZia is inherently racist; they look down upon anything non-caucasian. That's their empire.
Eastern Germany was impoverished when it re-united.
And you can't lift a whole population out of poverty in 15 years time (that's when Syria started to blow up).
So, the AfD is a reactionary party, originating in disgruntled east-Germans.
And btw, the USSR never "reconsiliated" with the nazi-era.
If you want memorabilia from that era, go to ruZZia.
So, this latent nazi-ism was never rooted out in eastern Germany, only in western Germany.
The cognitive dissonance of it all.
the USSR is/was very proud of beating the nazi's (thanks to the USA weapon deliveries, btw!)
After the war, they occupied eastern Europe.
So, now eastern Germans were suddenly "proud socialists", members of the Soviet Union.
Where "communism" defeated "fascism" by installing the Animal Farm-regime.
Essentially, they went from fascism to another form of oppression, never having to deal with the roots of their fascist past.
They could secretly hold on to their beliefs, since their new regime was just as bad, just less open about it.
Correction: The AfD was originally founded in Hesse (West-Germany) as an anti-Euro (the currency) party by an economics professor. But since they didn't get far in the German political landscape have started to cosy up more and more to far-right talking points. However, their strongholds are in Eastern Germany.
Denazification in West Germany? Where did you learn your history. East Germany let go 3/4 of all their teachers and 4/5 of all their judges from the Nazi Era, while replacing them with regular people from the streets (asking them if they want to become teachers and judges, not picking up the homeless). Additionally, many companies who had major faults at the horrors of WW2 were expropriated, after a democratic vote with 76% in favor of this was held. This happened from 1946 to 1948. AND WHAT DID THE WEST DO IN THAT TIME? Hand out the so-called "Persilscheine", where someone's crimes and actions during the Nazi Regime were immediately pardoned, without any repercussions.
Sarah is wrong again. She needs to talk to Historians about end of reconstruction and the rise of the Nazi party. These two time periods have something in common on what's going on today
The Nazi party (and also Communism) rose from the horrors of world war 1, where 2 million german soldiers died. Many of them where ordered by their highborn commanders to run directly into machinegun fire. Its just the sort of trauma that will radicalize you to the idea that somebody doesn't have your best interests at heart.
Democrats fought the new Republican Party that was started to end slavery. The democrat flag, the confederate flag is often attributed to Republicans but that is ridiculous. Lincoln was a Republican. Best president ever.
JVL's mistake on immigration is one that I see often on many topics: you don't have to win on an issue to justify change, you only have to lose less badly.
There is a woman Senator from Texas. Grainger is her last name. She’s 81. She’s been missing for six months. She’s a Republican. They found her. She has dementia and she’s in a care facility. Her house is sold. Why hasn’t she been replaced?Why are Republicans not notifying Congress of this? Are they submitting votes for her? What’s happening!
It seems the lack of a local press outlet meant no one really noticed. Of course, the same cannot be said for her colleagues in the House. Can you imagine disappearing from work for months, with full pay and no questions. We need a healthy Press
What?!?!?
Republicans are the ones to call attention to it. We have old person problem in congress and MAGA wants term limits.
In JVL's defence (and also in defence of misrepresentations of the left that you guys casually base on what I guess you see online):
Far right anti-immigrant parties throughout history are almost always ultra-nationalist (and scapegoating some marginalized group) as well. So the "far left", when talking about the issues of anti-immigration and nationalism, are pointing out that there are the two sides of the far right wing coin that push a country into fascism. it's pointing out a correlation between two ideas. Trump's slogan isn't "kick immigrants out" (though has certainly slid down that), it started with "make America Great Again".
In addition, as in the case of the US, UK, and so on, it is a bit of a pattern that countries that invaded other countries, creating the need for refugees, that then turned around and insisted on strong borders the most. It's a part of the projection sometimes.
I am not saying it is the only argument/perspective you could take on the issue and that there isn't some moderation needed for all different perspectives to be thought about. But I think if you were to accuse the Democrats of being "hostage to the far left" because "they think borders are racist", you have a responsibility to do more than uncritically repeat what is largely a Republican talking point/portrayal of the left that is not reflective of the fact that actual Democrats are actual adults with competency and most of them are too old to have sat through an undergrad class on critical theory at all.
Yea, let's blame the people poorer than we are rather than the people richer than we are for our own struggles. 🤦♀️
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I’m with you, JVL!
I really like these two hosts alot!
Merry Christmas Sarah, JVL and all the Bulwark! 🎉
It’s rumoured he is going to give money to the UK equivalent party, Reform.
He should support prince Harry, to provide a viable alternative monarch. You know, to keep the historical echoes going. I mean, he is married to an American divorcee
Big debate about it in U.K. Currently illegal.
Illegal in U.K. Big debate raging there at the moment.
@ not completely correct. Foreign orgs/people are not allowed to give big donations. The government is trying to make it outright illegal though.
Did Sarah forget all the times Kamala Harris talked about the border? Forcefully?
Why aren't Democrats out NOW talking about anything? Where did they go? Why can't we have a big stupid party in Arizona? I remember when Hillary lost and NO ONE WAS DOING ANYTHING. Crickets. Could someone please do freaking something?
Great info and so appreciative of your presentation not being “hair on fire”.
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Challenge - why doesn’t the Bulwark draft a border policy a solution and present it! You have smart fair and good people.
Apparently Congress is not interested in a real immigration program.
You guys are fantastic. I love the way you interact.
Self-centered fear is ugly.
I laughed out loud at the "hygiene" objection. You guys are awesome! Have a wonderful New Year!
"We live in a time of magic and wonder." I'm stealing that but I'm leaving engagement because I'm not an ungrateful Neanderthal.
You guys are doing a great job. Thanks for all you do😊
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Thank you both very much
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Its funny how AFD is only big in East Germany, old Soviet ground/Stasi land..hmm🤔🤔🤣
Yes, that's was a great comeback! Yes, yes, yes, YES!! I'm NOT blaming immigrants for the price of eggs, but it was good, JVL! I chuckled, and I needed that so 'yes, yes, yes, YES!!
Somebody please buy a nice soft velvety smooth couch for JD because I think he hasn't had any love for a while😮😮😮
At this point, I think most people are worried that the U.S. has nukes.
Please don't lump the UK in with the EU. We voted in a left party in July. Germany need to be really careful. It didn't work so well for them in the 1st & 2nd world wars!
Unfortunately Musk is trying to boost Farage like he did trump.
And reading UA-cam comments from people in UK, especially England, on the Guardian/Sun/BBC etc sites, they are pro trump, anti-immigrant and against Starmer.
I can't see that much difference between Nigel Farrage and Alice Weide (Chairwoman of AFD) when you listen to their speeches and there are rumors about Russian funding in the past about both parties.
So we will see you Friday 😂😂😂😂
Love JVL and Sarah and am thrilled Sarah is now sports loving. 🌲
Current generation has completely forgotten about the nuclear threat. But it's coming back in a much bigger way
Imo the developed world will be too busy dealing with climate disasters to develop nukes. Next Spring, as storm season starts in the Northern Hemisphere, we're all going to start facing the reality that more and more of our resources will have to go toward weather disaster mitigation.
Add Belarus to the club
Last time I looked, all countries had borders. Do we not have borders? How do we not have borders?
Biden told them to come on up - and they just let them cross the border and enter. Yes we have about 10 million people cross the border but if you stay in the white suburbs of America you don't know there's a problem because you're too rich to know.
We live in a time of magic and wonder 😂
Subscribing to Plus has been worth it just for the Secret Podcast alone. Heading over to hear the rest. . .
Lolol at the roof with the hands
Wtf lolol
If people can't afford eggs, why are there so many traffic jams at the shopping centers right now????
Republican party 49,7% AfD18%
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I'm sorry but how can you guys discuss the political situation in Germany without mentioning the terrorist attack on the Christmas Market at the weekend? So much for having your finger on the pulse. I cannot believe Sarah failed to see the significance of using. the term hygienic in the context being discussed- holy shit the naivety/ignorance of politics/history beyond the US border.
Elon Musk's ancestors were Nazi's and many in racist South Africa supported Nazi doctrine during the Third Reich. It's in Musk's DNA.
As far as National borders are concerned every American commentator/politician fails to mention the ticking time bomb of massive immigration due to the changing climate- it has been identified as the biggest problem facing the stability of the world order as humans escape the scorching uninhabitable regions of the planet- coming soon!
Merry Christmas to all at the Bulwark!❄️🎅🤶
JVL - {Germany} "this country which has slit the throat of the world twice in the last 100 years". Germany in WW2 run by the Nazis was a true existential threat to what was good and moral in the world. Germany WW1 (a) wasn't in the last hundred years (picky, I know, but true) and (b) was more of a classic war for territory and having colonies than anything else.
Close enough...
Also reeling from enormous disparity of income
So they imposed the treaty of Versailles after WW1 and didn't expect to be a backlash because of it? How stupid were the leaders of the west back then? Not saying what Adolf and his cronies did was fair in any shape or form but they should have seen it coming. It was a mess of their own making too.
Please get someone knowledgeable from Europe when talking about the continent, which I appreciate
I think we are going to be ok. Sarah, you and JVL give me hope. we have no other choice, except to be ok.
I do hope some of this insanity will start affecting sales of teslas !! best Christmas presents we could get . musk shares tanking in 2025 !!
Tesla was down 6% the day Powell made it clear inflation was the Fed's expectation.
Oh Sarah is pissed at JV 🎉 Man love you guys! The importance of NATO is big 🛡️🗡️☮️😍🌍☪️🌎