Yelena Shushunova [1969-2018] (vs. Silivas back-to-back perfect 10s @ '88 Olympic Games)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- *2024 edit: I have stopped watching gymn since 2015: just a f@rce! Long live classical gymnastics!
I downloaded the two main clips from Alexsas Trotter in '04, who literally gave his life up to the sport in 2005. RIP Aleksas.
In memory of Elena Shushunova (Елена Шушунова) [Apr 23 1969 - Aug 16 2018]
Notice the amount of dance elements in both routines, though totally different in choreography & personality.They actually draw the audience in much more than most of the floor routines these days.
These were also significant historically because the first was the 99th perfect 10.000 in Olympic history while the second was the 100th 10.000!
My all time team has Shushanova, Mukhina, Comaneci, Silivas, Caslasvka, and Latynina. Best ever gymnasts.
Shushunova's choice of music was way better!
silivas and shushunova queens of 1988 olympics
And Svetlana Boginskaya, the princess
If not this video I would have never known Shushunova passed away.
I'm so sad right now. RIP
Gone but never forgotten. I hope she was aware of just how good she was, and that her life after gymnastics was just as successful as it was in gymnastics. RIP Shushu, Ill still be watching your routines for years to come.
for me Shushunova and Silivas are the ultimate gymnastics goddesses! never will there be a competition such as this and never will there be gymnasts as those two. i love both of them so much amazing performances
HepburnLove it was the best gym finals ever in the Olympics
I totally agree. The End of an Era. Khorkina and Komova are my favorite above them.
I have watched a million times 88 games. I really love both. I miss these times. Today gym is harder but Lost the bright That had before .
harder? most of the tumblings they did are banned nowadays, e.g. gymnast is not allowed to roll out of saltos because its too dangerous, etc .
Kasia O yes you can it's called a thomas, and is a staple on floor to not take a step deduction. Todays gymnastics is WAY harder than 1988, for instance, if her punchfront connection pass was competed today it would be a stepout, into the next move, you pause as long as both of them did on their two connected passes you would lose the bonus. However, the dance is way better, but that's because in 1988 they still had carryover from the archaic way gymnastics was for women in the 20, 30, and 40's.
@@anthonyorsillo1636 Thomas salto was banned along with standing on the double bars, I saw techniques in the 80s that were near impossible to do, now all banned due to the deaths involved.
The floors are springy now,like trampolines,that makes it easier,and all of the hard moves have been banned.
@QPHashSS77 There's no need for name calling!
Sushunova more elegance
Elena.. wherever you are now, we will.always going to remember your amazing performances.. you and Daniela Silivas were the end of an era, when gymnastics were absolutely amaxing, elegant, stunning.. and unique..
They both were great but I do think Shushunova's performance is one of the most amazing and best choreographed floor exercise ever.
I agree 💖... She was stunning 💖
I miss this kind of gymnastics. I prefer it to today's.
Agreed. Her choreography was timeless, powerful, mature, creative. She will always be missed.
It was a 1988 summer evening and me and my mother ( may she rest in peace) were watching gymnastics, Elena needed a perfect score to win the competition.
I will never forget the look on her face, the sublime concentration before she stepped on the floor.
The rest is well known, she had a 10.
That moment, that particular moment is worth more than 10 lives!!
I had a picture of her on my desk for a couple of years, picture, cut ot of newspaper and framed with home made frame ( good old 80s when most of things were made of glass, metal and wood)
RIP ELENA,
my daughter has your name today !!!
This was such a gorgeous era of gymnastics, even the more "athletic" gymnast had an a attention to detail, and the "pixie" had such an incredible dance sensibility with her rhythm and timing. What was so wonderful is they both performed like they really wanted to win. If only gymnastics were still like this!
Now you only see who can tumble the most.band you win medals with falls
@@eh5507 its the FIG's decision to formulate the COP and requirements that way. Lets not put it out with the athletes that wants to compete and win. In '88 same with NCAA till now the 10 scoring system is implemented with great emphasis on dance and presentation skills with less emphasis on difficulty. But yes i agree that the old WAG looks more visually appealing.
I have no words. I cant believe Elena died
I miss when Russia VS Romania
She was the innovator and a great one . May she Rest In Peace
This is ARTISTIC gymnastics#!
@QPHashSS77 Fuck dude you are everywhere with your toxicity. Obviously you have an axe to grind. Sorry your life didn't turn out how you wanted.
@@FtGFA. You should be saying that to yourself. You are very toxic.
@@yuiop6611 LMAO
@@FtGFA. What’s funny? You are responding to a nonexistent account. And you are being very toxic.
@@yuiop6611 You ever think the account was active when I replied? Dumbass.
The winner of the greatest all around battle of the Olimpics. The first perfect 10.0 of gymnastics I've ever seen in my life ( I haven't seen Comaneci unfortunatelly). The most innovative and impressive FX I've ever seen (Seul 88). Great Shushunova! Shushunova forever!!! R.I.P.😢😢😢
Ah, too bad you didnt see the Mary Lou / Szabo battle and Mary Lou's 10.0 vault when it happened at the 1984 games in L.A.. As a little gymnast in Los Angeles, it made it even more fun to watch.
R.I.P Elena
Reast in peace... She was very ahead of her time. 😢
I was so shocked when I heard it and very sad :-( It was my dream to have a meet and greet with her
Devastated to hear this news. Such a cahmpion. RIP
I don't know much about the logistics of gymnastics but I think Shushunova's routine is better. There's so much more feel and drama in her movements. It just seems more in depth to me
I agree. I know it's not a popular opinion but i liked her way more. Silivas exercise is fantastic, don't get me wrong, not even the awful music can change that, but Shushunova routine just gives me chills
was the back handspring onto her knees on purpose then?
Yes, it was part of the routine. It was banned because it's too dangerous
makes sense
and now the Thomas salt is also banned from MAG
I like Silivas, she is one of my favourites.
But Shushunova is superior. That floor was spectacular and contrary to popular belief is artistically just as wonderful as Silivas and is more innovative and difficult to boot.
Glad to see somebody else spot this--I came across this video a couple years ago and was struck by how much stronger Shushunova was from the artistic angle than I remembered--and also that Silivas had more to her than just artistry!
@QPHashSS77 it is artistic. But you have to have the eyes and the soul to appreciate it. You obviously do not see it..it doesn't mean it is not there.
2:37 The most fantastic moment in the Olympic history EVER.
I watched this game on Sep 23, 28years ago.
It's so weird now how the current judging would penalize Shushonova so many times for tumbling with legs apart and such, and yet the dance elements and choreography is better than anything around now.
Dance and choreography isnt even part of the scoring today. It is a shame. And they do so many elements there is hardly any time for any anyway.
And Silivas would have lost points for her dismount on bars...not difficult enough
that makes sense. I didn't realize they don't score it anymore. I was wondering why the gymnasts today have such poor musicality in their "dance" moves.
@@Irishrose777 there's actually deductions available to take for lack of artistry today. But the points can just be made up by doing additional tumbles.
RIP Shushunova. It's really hard to believe that she passed away at 49.
Elena Shushunova is the one and only....i was in 7th grade in 1988 and remember her on TV
They both were great but I do think Shushunova's performance is one of the most amazing and best choreographed floor exercise ever.
Shushunova's routine is amazing. So creative
True ARTISTIC gymnastics! Elite, world class skills, performed with passion and artistry. Just incredible. Don't make me choose!🥇🥈🥉
🥀Rest in Peace Shushu. You were light years ahead of your time and your impact on this amazing sport is still felt today, and will continue to be felt for years to come.
Wanna know how old I am? I was a teenager when the Seoul Olympics were happening.
My biggest memories of Elena was watching the Seoul all-around: Silivas vs. Shushunova. LIVE! On the beam: when I saw Shushunova do her Rulfova, I asked what the heck was that? Mind you I didn't know much about gymnastics back then. When I saw her floor routine, I thought the Thomas tumble was crazy and her music was boring compared to Silivas. I didn't know at the time Shushunova was showing a mature flair to her floor work.
However the biggest memory was the vault. Throughout the competition, I didn't see Shushunova smile at all. In fact I was telling my mother that the 'day of the smilers was gone.' Possibly because how I remembered Mary Lou always smiled. Sure Silivas smiled, but not as much. Anyways when Shushunova stuck her vault, that's when her smile came out. You can tell the pride in her face. She said it right there I did it!
JonnyTainment Ditto each and every word bro. I had exact same reactions watching her perform as you did. You said it the way I wanted to. I just came across this video and was shocked to see “1969-2018”... googled her and saw that she passed away.... too bad. Rest In Peace Elena. You are always in my heart ❤️
After watching these games for almost 7 times, am no longer mad about Shushunova winning. I edited my previous comment. You will be forever missed.
Rip Elena
I had to check why your title was "In Memoriam". Then I learned that she died 3 days ago due to pneumonia. How sad! :-(
Same here, that was how I found out about her passing. I still can't believe it. Sad, sad!
Amazing routines!, I miss the days when the artistic gymnastics were classy and elegant, and the acrobatic elements were not the main focus like nowadays with the steroidogenic american girls.
really just americans? I'm really sick of the Americans being singled out for adjusting to the FIG's COP. it's easier to say Romania just didn't keep up with the times and changes than listing USA, Russia, Canada, great Britain, Italy and on and on. because USA is the BEST they are blamed.
And the world is sick of your narcicism. Terms like "BEST" (with capitals) is a clear example of it... Humbleness is what the world needs, not superiority complexes.
+Jose Sanval Spot on..
+Jose Sanval I'm sick of USA being singled out. lack of artistry, robot like routines, gymnasts look like body builders....never hear that shit on other country's gymnasts...so the attitude is well definef
+Jose Sanval Kudos for you telling the truth. That's exactly why I gave up following woman's AG years ago.
Shushunova always will be my favourite gymnastic. Love how she worked in 88
Shushunova 🌷❤
Shushunova!!!!!!!!
R.I.P. Shushunova....
Rest In Peace Yelena, such an amazingly my gymnast.
fabulous Yelena, RIP, She will be forever in our minds
RIP Shushu! I've been a gymnastics fan since 2010 and still remember being wow'ed by her routines!
Que mamo a mano se aventaron las dos en Seul 88 las dos me gustan mucho pero si me piden elegir me quedo con Elena creo que tiene más grado de dificultad su rutina, Descanse en paz
Both of them are great. Shushunova's difficulty in performance is noticeable but in over-all score, artistic scores and execution scores are other 2 criteria. Silivas is excellent in that area. Her body form is very beautiful, lithe and very feminine. Gymnastics is also about grace and body movements, just like Nadia Comaneci's beautiful body form in Montreal captured the attention of judges, media and viewing audience.
R.i.P. Legend
las 2 son excelentes unicas e irrepetibles.....
Will we ever see a battle this great again?! Quite a display
RIP legend. Gone too young
Elena's musics two guitars. 1996 Olympics Magnificent member Shannon Miller's musics
1:04 qué salto tan increíble y terriblemente peligroso.
c. o.v. yup, which is precisely why it is now a banned skill.
Amazing. The floor doesn't look as sprung as it is now.
Лена,вечная тебе память.Умерла молодой и красивой
Shushunova era uma rainha na ginástica 🤸♀️. Eu fiquei muito triste 😞 ao saber de sua morte. Tão nova e por um motivo que tem cura que é a pneumonia.
What a girl!Rest in peace Yelena.
Excelentes rutinas de las dos Rusia y Rumania con grandes exponentes.
царствие небесное...очень жаль....((((
I remember from those days how I didn't like their hair style. Now I'm sure that I don't . LOL
SILIVAS number one !
I miss you elena😭😭😭😭😭
Ignoraba que había muerto, era increíble.
Rio de Janeiro-Brasil. Aqui é o país do futebol. As demais modalidades esportivas não são valorizadas. O Vôlei ainda não se tornou um esporte popular, mesmo com as seleções feminina e masculino ganhando medalhas de ouro em Olimpíadas. E a Shushunova foi a Ginasta que o Brasil aplaudiu, ela esteve no Brasil, depois que encerrou a carreira. Fazia apresentações! Shushunova era uma Ginasta que trouxe novidades pras Olimpíadas de Seul.
Depois das Olimpíadas, a equipe russa se apresentou no Brasil, mas pelo que me lembro, a Yelena preferiu não vir.
Duas musas da ginastica!!!!!
Goodbye Elena ... one of the Goddesses of Gymnastics ❤️
I still remember watching this floor battle live on TV ... and remember of the commentary true to this day - how do you choose between Perfect classical ballerina and the modern one ?!
So sad to lose you way too early, but you will live forever through your incredible gymnastics legacy ❤️
Легенда советской гимнастики, вечная память...
Silivas era boa mas não tinha o brilho da Shushunova.
I love Shushunova!!!
Also, lol at that salty Romanian judge giving Shush a 9.9.
Like the Russians (aka Nelli kin didn't underscore Silivas earlier!!! and much more sverely)
That being said, I am shocked and very sad with her death .. rest in peace
Mmhmmm. The 9.8 that Nellie Kim gave Silivas on vault?? LOL.
I remember this so well - I loved watching these two! Both such different routines, but equally artistic! They were both very evenly matched. If I had to choose between them, Daniela's very precise and balletic movements would give her an extra inch, I think.
I choose SILIVAS
Gran competición entre dos excelentes gimnastas. Descansa en paz Chuchunova.
I think if Silivas had performed first, she would have got a 10 but Shushunova wouldn't have if she followed Silivas.
Just my opinion, though.
i agree
that is absolutely right, and that is why the score had to change, it was the golden era, and it changed everything too
Given the scoring at the time very unlikely. With the lax scoring of the time both would have gotten a 10 for sure for those routines.
No. They both would have received a 10 regardless of order.
They were both flawless, and Silivas could not beat Shushunova on the vault. Shush needed a 10 and got one....RIP Yelena.
very sad:( RIP Elenа...
Yelena Shushunova 👌 Hermosa Maravillosa, Grandiosa Exelente ✨👍🌹👏👏👏🌹👏👏👏🌹👏👏💐👍🙏🏻
So sad - way too young at 49.
RIP, brilliant one!
Recommended reading for everyone on this thread, esp. those who bemoan the lack of artistry in today's routines: Dvora Meyers' The End of the Perfect Ten. Note that I'm not defending the current trends in artistic gymnastics towards more power and difficulty at the expense of presentation...it does seem formally possible to have an open-ended scoring system, to have gymnasts pushing the limits of difficulty, AND to keep more artistry in the sport than we're currently seeing. But anyone who watches these beautiful vintage routines needs to realize that the Seoul Olympics were a classic example of the shortcomings of the 10-based scoring system. The judges were throwing 10s around at this competition like they were nothing special, and doing so for routines that clearly had flaws that even amateurs could spot.
😢
Bravo! Both girls were perfection!
RIP Elena
Браво, Леночка! Ты неподражаемая и великолепная!
А что случилось?
I was 14 in 1988 and doing competitive gymnastics and this was huge for me then! Edge of your seat stuff watching the competition play out! I always favoured Silivas for her elegance and flexibility but was hugely inspired by Shushunova and her amazing moves (the full twisting Korbut on the beam was great! So sad to hear that she passed away 😔
I miss it so much...
loved them as a boy
I love watching these two young ladies' FX. It's hard for me to say that one or the other deserved the gold more, although I do have a slight preference towards Daniela, but I LOVED Elena's second pass with the Arabian somersault, a move I believe is banned in women's gymnastics today.
I would've made them co-champions😊😊😊😊😊😊
If I had to pick my team it would be; Shusunova, Gina Gogean, Shannon Miller, Lavinia Milosevic and Svetlana Khorkhina. They to me were the top 5. Silivas and Korbut were right behind them.
Ah, back in the time when the big names weren’t given deductions for their form breaks. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The era of women's gymnastics were from 1987 to 2002. The Romanians in the 90s unbelievable and Shannon Miller was and is the best gymnast America put out
Сколько экспрессии у Лены, каждый жест выверен, а вторая диагональ - акробатика сумасшедшая!!!!
Такая сильная, молодая, красивая и ушла так рано!!!!
Вечная память............
Hands down.....SILIVAS nailed every routine and tumbling pass with precision and execution. Shushunova was good, but Silivas was better.
I agree, and she was more charming too
piwid81 Silivas ate her alive! Too bad it was not her becausr she was the better gymnast on three out of four apparatus!
Clearly Silivas did not eat her alive. She was better on 1 of the 4 events. She bobbled all over on beam, has lest difficulty and power on floor and vaulting isn't even close (like at all). Even her bars were easier than Shushu but she has a nicer line sand stuck the dismount so she wins that event.
Lebronze thats why i said it was nit her day but usually she would murder Shushu on beam and bars! Shushu beats her on vault and tumvling on floor but back then dancing still counted and Silivas could dance her into the floor! Thats why i say 3 out of floor but agreed it was Shushunovas day. Just like vault is Bogi a better vaulter than Shushu? No way but it wadbt Shushus day thats how it goes!
Rubbish, Yelena was amazing on bars and was still good on beam, good enough to medal. The only murder that takes place vs these two is when Shushunovas vault stomps Silivas' into the dust.
As for artistry, Shushunova is exceptionally artistic. Not as accessible or balletic as Silivas but has perfect carriage, fabulous musical interpretation and timing. The only difference was that she lacked the line, which is biology, and not detuctable. Shushunova regularly spanked Silivas in aa comps actually. Out of the several times they faced eachother Silivas has won ONE time, and that was when Shushunova was in the worst shape I've ever seen her and fell off bars (even the commentators were remarking about how she looked out of shape, 87 Euros). In conclusion, it is in fact Shushunova that regularly defeated Silivas, and still only lost to her when she made large errors, rendering your point null and void.
素晴らしい(*^。^*)世界一です！！！
the two floors could not e more different in style eh!!!!!!! but that was THE best olympics EVER. oh and as a gymnast, i did her move in my floor the one on her knees at 1:05 :) (that's the only bit i could replicate lol)
Simply wow 😮
1:04 what kind of tumbling pass is that?? Amazing!!!
@ thanks!
Nota 10
grandioso!
Silivas' dance is absolutely perfect for her music!
So sad to know shushunova pass away I didn’t know about it to until I saw this video and read the comments she was a amazing gymnastics she will be missed Blessings Always RIP.
I was there 1988 female AA and every event finals. I am so honored for sharing the historic moments... May she rest in peace...
A Rússia e seus girassois. Descanse em paz....
El mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia.belleza y elegancia en cada ejercicio una combinación perfecta.
Молодец ! В истории навсегда