I think you missed a detail because the yellow line actually used to part of a bigger rail line to Milwaukee but over the decades it became shorter and shorter until it got pushed to Skokie. You can see the old right of way by looking a couple miles north of the Dempster Station and see a grass alleyway that would perfectly fit a train
As per the comment below you missed a big chunk of the history. Being an old fart and a big Chicago transit history buff I remember it all (too) well. First, kudos to a few points that you got quite correct. About 1/2 of what is today's Yellow Line had overhead trolley wire (later catenary lines) which only some of the Evanston (Purple) line cars had, but the bulk of the North-South (Red) did not have and yes, Dempster (for long the only station on the Yellow) does not have the (correct again.) 8 car capacity of the Red. Now for what you missed. The Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee Railroad (commonly called the North Shore) was an interurban with roots going back to the 1890s. Starting from Waukegan it gradually extended both south and north, eventually connecting downtown Milwaukee with the Linden station on today's Purple. Northward it ran on streets through Wilmette and Kenilworth, then to a dedicated right of way parallel to today's Metra North (then called the North Western). It was the North Shore line that built Ravinia Park as a traffic generator. An agreement was reached with what was then called the Chicago Rapid Transit Co. to run through to the Loop. Most trains circled the Loop and terminated at Roosevelt Road. The slow running through the North Shore town streets was a hassle so they bullt the "Skokie Valley Route". It inculded the current cut below grade west of Howard and then the flat stretch to Dempster. From there the route continued straight north to about Lake Bluff. It paralleled today's Eden's Expressway and Highway 41. North of Lake Bluff it cut back east to meet with the existing North Shore Line to Milwaukee. This was done long before the multi-lane highways. It was made easy that there were electric power lines along the right of way owned by the Insull conglemerate that at one time owned most of Chicago's L and surface electric lines and the power company. [BTW, Samuel Insull eventually went broke and was found dead, homeless, at a London tube station]. The North Shore now provided premium fast service between the two cities, as fast 90 minutes downtown to downtown--try that today with any mode! It culiminated with the introduction of two sets of "Electroliners", streamlined, high speed, comfortable with a restaurant--rode it many times with my dad. Being under 12 I think that my ticket was about $1.25. The town of Skokie was actually called Niles Center originally (not sure when it changed). The North Shore only stopped at Howard and Dempster and then select stops north of there--it was pretty sparsely populated until after WWII. The Rapid Transit Co also offered a service from Howard to Dempster--just like today's Yellow but it also served several intermediate stops that no longer exist. Note that as you go west from Howard the tracks pass underneath a bunch of streets. Several of those had station platforms with step going up to station house at street level. Because of the sparse population the Niles Center branch of the L never had much traffic. When the CTA was created in 1947 they took an ax to a bunch of low volume routes and stations and Niles Center was one of the first to go. However, the North Shore continued to use it. In the early 1950s the North Shore abandoned the "Shore Route", i.e., the street run through Wilmette and the part past Ravinia and Highland Park, placing all their traffic onto the faster Skokie route. In January, 1963 the entire North Shore line was abandoned. It's a long story essentially involving corporate greed with a holding company buying it, running it into the ground and selling the assets for scrap and real estate. A lot of the right of way soon turned to housing and commercial during the suburban boom of the 1960s. A few sections have been preserved today as bike trails (like an east-west branch that ran between Lake Bluff and Mundelein). Somewhat fortuitously, the segment that is now the Yellow Line remained intact. The timing was perfect as in 1965 the Johnson Administration was spending a lot on urban renewal projects and established the Urban Mass Transit Administration and offered grants. The powerful Chicago Democratic machine of Richard Daley applied for this project and it was an instant success [so ,you are correct there]. The irony is that had the North Shore been kept going for two more years it may still exist today. You are also correct that until a few decades ago the power source was different. West from Howard to about Crawford (Pulaski) Avenue it used the same 3rd rail system as the rest of the L. Where it reached grade level Third Rail was considered too dangerous for passers-by and from there north it was overhead. In the old North Shore days the conversion was pretty rudimentary and done completely on the fly. There was a few hundred yards of transition where both were avilable. On the outbound run the conductor would open the back door of the last car and while the train was going 60 mph, in rain or snow, would unwind the cable holding down the trolley pole and then try to catch onto the wire. It was always a fireworks show of sparks in the night. When the CTA took over they civilized it with new cars that had automated pantagraph structures that were raised and lowered. When I rode the North Shore the former L stations at the underpasses were still there but not used. Some of the street level stion houses were converted into convenience store. The current intermediate stop, Oakton, was only added in the past 20-30 years.
There's also a great historical article on this in a 1990s issue of Chicago traction magazine "First and Fastest." As to the discussion of trolley wire in this video, it fails to recognize other lines, like Evanston and the extant freight business on the north side main (now red) line which existed into the 70s.
@@VaudeVilleClown You are also correct about the freight service on the north side. There were two coal depots east of Broadway and west of the tracks that had spur tracks to the L--one near Berwyn and the other around Granville. They were loaded up during the night--back then a lot of homes used coal heating.
You couldn't of said it better I was going to add a comment about the misses in the video on the history and then saw your comment and was like great job
Thanks for the additional history. As an added note there were originally additional stations on the Skokie Valley line as it went through Evanston. There were stations at Ridge, Asbury (Western) and Dodge (California).
i worked at the starbucks at the end of the yellow line for years, i can say the morning commuters all for sure knew each other. often would get coffee etc together in the morning.
The yellow line formerly Skokie Swift, was built by the Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee or North Shore Line as part of there Skokie Valley Line. It ran as an express route around the northern Suburbs ,the shore line route, rejoining the main in Mundline. The CRT Chicago Rapid Transit did offer L service along part of the route. The North shore eventually was shut down an liquidated in 1963. There was an agreement that the CTA got the right of way so the main shops in Skokie would remain on line. CRT/CTA Service was .
CTA Service was cut before the North Shore was shut down. Now the federal government cone along in the late 60' and funds a demo project that started a shuttle service between the Demster station and Howard. This evolved into the Skokie Swift now called the Yellow Line original only having 2 stops and running express between Dempster and Howard. It was always interesting watching the switchover between 3rd rail and overhead line at track speed west of Western Ave. Sometimes in the 90's the Oakton stop was added and the line was completely switched to 3rd rail. Technically the Yellow line is an old Interurban line that's still in use
Not to mention the huge Skokie rail shop, which handles major overhauls of cars and components, adding and removing cars from the fleet by truck, the legacy fleet of historical trains, and maintenance and most of the storage of the non-revenue fleet. So, since most of the yellow line has to be maintained just to connect the shop to the rest of the system, it only makes sense to use it for commuter service as well, since the tracks that used to go to milwaukee already existed.
Then again, if people didn’t have to transfer and go up and down the stairs, they’d probably attract more people, all they need to do is expand that last stop to fill in a full red line train and the yellow line becomes history.
@@emvvehicles_8 nobody’s thinking about going to Oakton-Skokie and even if the red line was considered to be expanded Skokie would probably shut it down
You can still see the roof platforms that held the pantographs on eight mated-pair sets with cars 3441 through 3456. They were part of the 3200-series order from the mid-90s, but had the pantographs removed when the Yellow Line went to third rail. These cars still run regularly on the Brown Line.
I rode Skokie Swift about 11 years ago. It was a quick and easy ride from Skokie Dempster to the Howard L station. I would prefer if the CTA built a pedestrian bridge over the tracks or a an underground tunnel at the Skokie Dempster station so passengers don’t have to cross tracks in close proximity to the third rail.
You're not in close proximity to the 3rd rail there at Dempster crossing these days. There are angled wood barriers at each side and short wood pylons in the ground that prevent walking along tracks. A person would have have circus level balancing skills to get past those to 3rd rail.
The biggest appeal of the Skokie Swift to me is that it makes it much easier to get to Wrigley Field than driving into the city and finding parking for those of us beyond the reach of the CTA system. And if the CTA ever puts a Purple line stop at the Addison station, it would be even easier to get to Wrigley from the north suburbs via Metra and connecting to the Purple in Evanston.
The Chicago Northshor & Milwaukee RR had a major maintenance shop on Oakton Street that the CTA still uses today, but in order to get the federal grant money to connect to the ships they needed to have at least one passenger stop. If it had actually been redone for passenger convenience it should have run north along the Norshore right a way at least to the Old Orchard Shopping Mall, or the Skokie Court @ Old Orchard Road.
There was a study done to run tracks back to Old Orchard and then Lake-Cook Road but with the job that the progressives are doing destroying the inner city, it will probably never be done now. It also includes analysis of all the stations that used to exist finding that the Oakton Ave. Station is the only one worth putting back in due to a lack of parking options the other stations would have.
As a former railroader and cta L conductor. Each provides a different service area. SKOKIE SWIFT many stops after Howard St going south, while Milw Rd passengers are mainly going to downtown Chgo
I rode it while it was labeled as the Skokie Swift. I thoroughly enjoyed all of my rides on the "L" train no matter which line it was. When I was on the way to work I would take the Ravenswood line. To me taking the "L" train to and from work was relaxing. Just my opinion. Have a blessed day everyone
Imagine a Yellow Line extension that ran express from Howard through Fullerton, followed the Red Line to Roosevelt, joined the Green Line from there to Garfield, and ended at Ashland/63. Thus making the Green Line a single-branched line from Harlem/Lake to Cottage Grove.
There are already four tracks for red and purple going both ways, where would this extra yellow line rails be? There is metra line a few blocks to east anyway.
I can tell you when the yellow line is down the shuttle bus takes 45 minutes to get to Howard instead of the 15 minute ride of the yellow line during rush hour!
Did you know the Dempster station building built in 1925 (the Starbucks) was moved ? It was at the train platform & served the North Shore also I think
I'm looking at the comments. Chicagoans do know their city's history. When Boomers went to school, Chicago history was included in American history and Civics classes. In addition, there was the obligatory field trips to the Chicago History Museum in 6th and 8th grades.
You can ride a bicycle from he lakeshore to the yellow line end faster than it takes to ride the bike to howard station and take the yellow line to the end.
Essentially because they wanted to see if it would get better ridership and results over a bus line and if it would be worth the money. Yes, it very much was, so they kept it.
the renaming of the rail lines to colors was stoooopid - they names used to mean something - Skokie Swift, Evanston Express, Ravenswood - you knew where they were going (yellow line, purple line brown line - huh?? are we going to the Crayola factory?), The Lake-Dan Ryan ran down Lake Street and the middle of the Dan Ryan - the name told you everything you needed to know (green line? no idea where it goes without consulting a system map)
Maybe it should be extended to Northfield or Glenview or Wheeling? Now this is just me being unrealistic because there a metra station in Glenview and there is not railroad that could take the yellow line into the areas I mentioned. Lastly, these areas are still in Cook County but not the city if Chicago.
Here in California, we might have called it the Gold Line, but kudos to Chicago for courageously using some color names that might have negative connotations (yellow, pink, brown).
@@rikkichunn8856 till you said that, it never occurred to me that the line colors here are anything controversial you could always go around it by naming them Okra, Magenta & Marron... (which still sounds better than gold, especially, if a line is not all that golden in standard) but that is somewhat defeating the point... kind of believe in using what should be Neutral terms Neutrally
Your information all completely wrong. First I lived in Skokie for 30 years before moving to the NW Burbs. I took the swift for 18 years to cubs hames before I moved. you missed about 40 years of history. It appears you didnt do much research if any at all. The only accurate item you got right was changing the name of the swift to the yellow line. I would suggest reading a book called “ The North Shore Line” to get your history correct . You look like a fool here with wrong information
I think you missed a detail because the yellow line actually used to part of a bigger rail line to Milwaukee but over the decades it became shorter and shorter until it got pushed to Skokie. You can see the old right of way by looking a couple miles north of the Dempster Station and see a grass alleyway that would perfectly fit a train
When the North Shore Line quit running, it still ran from Chicago to Milwaukee, full length. As far as I have read, it was not shortened.
No, the North Shore was an entirely different entity from the L. Read my capsule history above.
@@cats0182 the north shore line shared L tracks but was not part of the L
@@cats0182 like how Metra uses CTA right of way to leave Chicago to the suburbs
@@janoswimpffen7305 North Shore Line was capable of running on L tracks. You can see photos of the old electroliners running on those tracks
As per the comment below you missed a big chunk of the history. Being an old fart and a big Chicago transit history buff I remember it all (too) well. First, kudos to a few points that you got quite correct. About 1/2 of what is today's Yellow Line had overhead trolley wire (later catenary lines) which only some of the Evanston (Purple) line cars had, but the bulk of the North-South (Red) did not have and yes, Dempster (for long the only station on the Yellow) does not have the (correct again.) 8 car capacity of the Red.
Now for what you missed. The Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee Railroad (commonly called the North Shore) was an interurban with roots going back to the 1890s. Starting from Waukegan it gradually extended both south and north, eventually connecting downtown Milwaukee with the Linden station on today's Purple. Northward it ran on streets through Wilmette and Kenilworth, then to a dedicated right of way parallel to today's Metra North (then called the North Western). It was the North Shore line that built Ravinia Park as a traffic generator.
An agreement was reached with what was then called the Chicago Rapid Transit Co. to run through to the Loop. Most trains circled the Loop and terminated at Roosevelt Road. The slow running through the North Shore town streets was a hassle so they bullt the "Skokie Valley Route". It inculded the current cut below grade west of Howard and then the flat stretch to Dempster. From there the route continued straight north to about Lake Bluff. It paralleled today's Eden's Expressway and Highway 41. North of Lake Bluff it cut back east to meet with the existing North Shore Line to Milwaukee.
This was done long before the multi-lane highways. It was made easy that there were electric power lines along the right of way owned by the Insull conglemerate that at one time owned most of Chicago's L and surface electric lines and the power company. [BTW, Samuel Insull eventually went broke and was found dead, homeless, at a London tube station].
The North Shore now provided premium fast service between the two cities, as fast 90 minutes downtown to downtown--try that today with any mode! It culiminated with the introduction of two sets of "Electroliners", streamlined, high speed, comfortable with a restaurant--rode it many times with my dad. Being under 12 I think that my ticket was about $1.25.
The town of Skokie was actually called Niles Center originally (not sure when it changed). The North Shore only stopped at Howard and Dempster and then select stops north of there--it was pretty sparsely populated until after WWII. The Rapid Transit Co also offered a service from Howard to Dempster--just like today's Yellow but it also served several intermediate stops that no longer exist. Note that as you go west from Howard the tracks pass underneath a bunch of streets. Several of those had station platforms with step going up to station house at street level.
Because of the sparse population the Niles Center branch of the L never had much traffic. When the CTA was created in 1947 they took an ax to a bunch of low volume routes and stations and Niles Center was one of the first to go. However, the North Shore continued to use it. In the early 1950s the North Shore abandoned the "Shore Route", i.e., the street run through Wilmette and the part past Ravinia and Highland Park, placing all their traffic onto the faster Skokie route.
In January, 1963 the entire North Shore line was abandoned. It's a long story essentially involving corporate greed with a holding company buying it, running it into the ground and selling the assets for scrap and real estate. A lot of the right of way soon turned to housing and commercial during the suburban boom of the 1960s. A few sections have been preserved today as bike trails (like an east-west branch that ran between Lake Bluff and Mundelein).
Somewhat fortuitously, the segment that is now the Yellow Line remained intact. The timing was perfect as in 1965 the Johnson Administration was spending a lot on urban renewal projects and established the Urban Mass Transit Administration and offered grants. The powerful Chicago Democratic machine of Richard Daley applied for this project and it was an instant success [so ,you are correct there]. The irony is that had the North Shore been kept going for two more years it may still exist today.
You are also correct that until a few decades ago the power source was different. West from Howard to about Crawford (Pulaski) Avenue it used the same 3rd rail system as the rest of the L. Where it reached grade level Third Rail was considered too dangerous for passers-by and from there north it was overhead. In the old North Shore days the conversion was pretty rudimentary and done completely on the fly. There was a few hundred yards of transition where both were avilable. On the outbound run the conductor would open the back door of the last car and while the train was going 60 mph, in rain or snow, would unwind the cable holding down the trolley pole and then try to catch onto the wire. It was always a fireworks show of sparks in the night. When the CTA took over they civilized it with new cars that had automated pantagraph structures that were raised and lowered. When I rode the North Shore the former L stations at the underpasses were still there but not used. Some of the street level stion houses were converted into convenience store. The current intermediate stop, Oakton, was only added in the past 20-30 years.
There's also a great historical article on this in a 1990s issue of Chicago traction magazine "First and Fastest."
As to the discussion of trolley wire in this video, it fails to recognize other lines, like Evanston and the extant freight business on the north side main (now red) line which existed into the 70s.
@@VaudeVilleClown I have every issue of First and Fastest since they started in the early 1980s!
@@VaudeVilleClown You are also correct about the freight service on the north side. There were two coal depots east of Broadway and west of the tracks that had spur tracks to the L--one near Berwyn and the other around Granville. They were loaded up during the night--back then a lot of homes used coal heating.
You couldn't of said it better I was going to add a comment about the misses in the video on the history and then saw your comment and was like great job
Thanks for the additional history. As an added note there were originally additional stations on the Skokie Valley line as it went through Evanston. There were stations at Ridge, Asbury (Western) and Dodge (California).
i worked at the starbucks at the end of the yellow line for years, i can say the morning commuters all for sure knew each other. often would get coffee etc together in the morning.
Insane that you made a video on the yellow line without mentioning the North Shore Line.
then you make a better video
@@wisbradley he doesn’t have to he’s just giving constructive criticism
The yellow line formerly Skokie Swift, was built by the Chicago North Shore and Milwaukee or North Shore Line as part of there Skokie Valley Line. It ran as an express route around the northern Suburbs ,the shore line route, rejoining the main in Mundline. The CRT Chicago Rapid Transit did offer L service along part of the route. The North shore eventually was shut down an liquidated in 1963. There was an agreement that the CTA got the right of way so the main shops in Skokie would remain on line. CRT/CTA Service was .
CTA Service was cut before the North Shore was shut down. Now the federal government cone along in the late 60' and funds a demo project that started a shuttle service between the Demster station and Howard. This evolved into the Skokie Swift now called the Yellow Line original only having 2 stops and running express between Dempster and Howard. It was always interesting watching the switchover between 3rd rail and overhead line at track speed west of Western Ave. Sometimes in the 90's the Oakton stop was added and the line was completely switched to 3rd rail. Technically the Yellow line is an old Interurban line that's still in use
Not to mention the huge Skokie rail shop, which handles major overhauls of cars and components, adding and removing cars from the fleet by truck, the legacy fleet of historical trains, and maintenance and most of the storage of the non-revenue fleet. So, since most of the yellow line has to be maintained just to connect the shop to the rest of the system, it only makes sense to use it for commuter service as well, since the tracks that used to go to milwaukee already existed.
Sending a full Red train up the route every 8 minutes also seems overkill when it barely fills a 2 car every 15
Then again, if people didn’t have to transfer and go up and down the stairs, they’d probably attract more people, all they need to do is expand that last stop to fill in a full red line train and the yellow line becomes history.
@@emvvehicles_8 nobody’s thinking about going to Oakton-Skokie and even if the red line was considered to be expanded Skokie would probably shut it down
Welcome back my man 🤙 (Chicago man here)
You can still see the roof platforms that held the pantographs on eight mated-pair sets with cars 3441 through 3456. They were part of the 3200-series order from the mid-90s, but had the pantographs removed when the Yellow Line went to third rail. These cars still run regularly on the Brown Line.
Great video, but the Microphone quality isn’t the best 😅
I just went on the L yesterday and was wondering this. Thank you recommendations!
I rode Skokie Swift about 11 years ago. It was a quick and easy ride from Skokie Dempster to the Howard L station. I would prefer if the CTA built a pedestrian bridge over the tracks or a an underground tunnel at the Skokie Dempster station so passengers don’t have to cross tracks in close proximity to the third rail.
You're not in close proximity to the 3rd rail there at Dempster crossing these days. There are angled wood barriers at each side and short wood pylons in the ground that prevent walking along tracks. A person would have have circus level balancing skills to get past those to 3rd rail.
The biggest appeal of the Skokie Swift to me is that it makes it much easier to get to Wrigley Field than driving into the city and finding parking for those of us beyond the reach of the CTA system. And if the CTA ever puts a Purple line stop at the Addison station, it would be even easier to get to Wrigley from the north suburbs via Metra and connecting to the Purple in Evanston.
@jrm78 I could be mistaken, but I believe that Purple Line trains DO stop at Addison when the Cubs are playing.
The Chicago Northshor & Milwaukee RR had a major maintenance shop on Oakton Street that the CTA still uses today, but in order to get the federal grant money to connect to the ships they needed to have at least one passenger stop. If it had actually been redone for passenger convenience it should have run north along the Norshore right a way at least to the Old Orchard Shopping Mall, or the Skokie Court @ Old Orchard Road.
There was a study done to run tracks back to Old Orchard and then Lake-Cook Road but with the job that the progressives are doing destroying the inner city, it will probably never be done now. It also includes analysis of all the stations that used to exist finding that the Oakton Ave. Station is the only one worth putting back in due to a lack of parking options the other stations would have.
As a former railroader and cta L conductor. Each provides a different service area. SKOKIE SWIFT many stops after Howard St going south, while Milw Rd passengers are mainly going to downtown Chgo
I rode it while it was labeled as the Skokie Swift. I thoroughly enjoyed all of my rides on the "L" train no matter which line it was. When I was on the way to work I would take the Ravenswood line. To me taking the "L" train to and from work was relaxing. Just my opinion. Have a blessed day everyone
0:09 BANANA LINE
Imagine a Yellow Line extension that ran express from Howard through Fullerton, followed the Red Line to Roosevelt, joined the Green Line from there to Garfield, and ended at Ashland/63. Thus making the Green Line a single-branched line from Harlem/Lake to Cottage Grove.
There are already four tracks for red and purple going both ways, where would this extra yellow line rails be? There is metra line a few blocks to east anyway.
I can tell you when the yellow line is down the shuttle bus takes 45 minutes to get to Howard instead of the 15 minute ride of the yellow line during rush hour!
I've lived in chicago 3 years, didnt know it existed. cool.
Did you know the Dempster station building built in 1925 (the Starbucks) was moved ? It was at the train platform & served the North Shore also I think
I was a passenger on the Skokie Swift's inaugural run back in '63 or '64.
seems pretty real
did not expect to see you here. neat. hello
fake
I'm looking at the comments. Chicagoans do know their city's history. When Boomers went to school, Chicago history was included in American history and Civics classes. In addition, there was the obligatory field trips to the Chicago History Museum in 6th and 8th grades.
You can ride a bicycle from he lakeshore to the yellow line end faster than it takes to ride the bike to howard station and take the yellow line to the end.
i dead-on forgot Chicago had yellow line, on the subway but only i been to Chicago 2 times as a teenager.
Great video! I really liked the footage
I remember when the Dempster station was also a Greyhound bus terminal.
Essentially because they wanted to see if it would get better ridership and results over a bus line and if it would be worth the money. Yes, it very much was, so they kept it.
I prefer public transport than driving in weekdays. Weekends it just easier to drive in Chicago though.
I rode blue and red and brown to the last stop loved it
Nice clip...the Red Line does run 8-car trains by the way.
Cool video :)
Not swift anymore.... Only 35mph now... Horrible schedule too
the renaming of the rail lines to colors was stoooopid - they names used to mean something - Skokie Swift, Evanston Express, Ravenswood - you knew where they were going (yellow line, purple line brown line - huh?? are we going to the Crayola factory?), The Lake-Dan Ryan ran down Lake Street and the middle of the Dan Ryan - the name told you everything you needed to know (green line? no idea where it goes without consulting a system map)
The yellow line did had a accident back in November 2023
0:20 Bro I used to live here... on Marshfield and Jonquil across the street from the Pink gale. I went to the brown Gale
Maybe it should be extended to Northfield or Glenview or Wheeling? Now this is just me being unrealistic because there a metra station in Glenview and there is not railroad that could take the yellow line into the areas I mentioned. Lastly, these areas are still in Cook County but not the city if Chicago.
Bro this video is so good!
According to the headline q, why do the red, brown, blue, purple, orange and pink line exist?
I rode that line once or twice. 😊
So at one time, you could commute from Milwaukee to South Bend.
I did learn something.
Did you miss the fact that the Yellow Line is FAST?
I hope you checked out the comments for more detailed information you’ve missed
Because I take it
There used to be more stops
Oh yes, the kosher Comet
IDK.
man standing right there outside Howard you're reaaaally lucky you're okay
Baby version of the other cta lines 😂😂😂😂
Sounds like someone got lazy with their research
Chicago like a local, funny, bc you said "willis tower"
It always seemed like a waste of a color.
some lines are yellow
some lines are blue
some lines are purple and there're some red ones too...
Here in California, we might have called it the Gold Line, but kudos to Chicago for courageously using some color names that might have negative connotations (yellow, pink, brown).
@@rikkichunn8856 till you said that, it never occurred to me that the line colors here are anything controversial
you could always go around it by naming them Okra, Magenta & Marron... (which still sounds better than gold, especially, if a line is not all that golden in standard) but that is somewhat defeating the point...
kind of believe in using what should be Neutral terms Neutrally
@@rikkichunn8856pink is negative?
@evergIow What if you run out of colors?
Your information all completely wrong. First I lived in Skokie for 30 years before moving to the NW Burbs. I took the swift for 18 years to cubs hames before I moved. you missed about 40 years of history. It appears you didnt do much research if any at all. The only accurate item you got right was changing the name of the swift to the yellow line. I would suggest reading a book called “ The North Shore Line” to get your history correct . You look like a fool here with wrong information