I wish I was in a spot where I could buy membership instead of grinding for bonds in game. Definitely makes the game less enjoyable but my job has crashed with the economy so I have no other way
That's the downside for sure. Bonds are expensive enough that it feels like a chore to keep your bond and the people who need it the most are priced out
What’s your RS, aren’t they like under £10? I can spare a few, remember being in that position 10 years ago and now I’m a portfolio manager who enjoys RS on the side!
So I think you missed one major point in the discussion but otherwise you discussed almost everything. The question is who buys bonds and for what reasons? In RuneScape 3, there's a few people who buy bonds. The first being those folks who want to keep or maintain their membership by making in game money to pay for their play time (not my personal favorite). The second are people buy bonds for cosmetic items. Jagex has in numerous events tied bonds to certain TH events (like the one from last week) or to Seasonal Events like Easter Event which boosted your benefits but also depleted the bonds that were in the game. Now those were RuneScape 3 bond uses but in Old School RuneScape, the bonds also function the same as a way to sustain your membership but the thing is most people don't realize that if you get membership in one of the games you have it for both games. So that means that Bots which OSRS is filled with, can buy membership from either games to sustain themselves and have an anonymous way to buy it since it isn't tied to a credit card where they can backcharge Jagex (they did this in 2008 btw). So now you have 3 big reasons why bonds are being bought which has led to such a high demand that they're resulting in these high prices now. This is definitely intentional, especially because of the second reason so I can see the prices going higher and higher unless there's a particular benefit to lowering the cost of the bond with real money or not utilizing it for TH events.
@@New_Name_Plz Yea, I honestly thought bonds would stay at 100m for awhile but them doing these TH Events and Easter Events, has just kept spiking the bond prices for RS3 so I expect it to just keep going up until Jagex thinks its time. Luckily most RS3 players only buy bonds for cosmetic reasons or to stockpile them for these type of events and that's what I do. Keep 4 to 5 in hand for any cool event that I actually care about.
To me it still doesn't explain why osrs bonds are also at all time highs though. I think it has more to do with increasing the cost for a bond irl. It's overall cheaper to buy keys and membership. Only the super rich use bonds for treasure hunter events
@@New_Name_Plz I always assumed a good chunk of the bots bought bonds since the bot owners probably didn't want a traceable way back for Jagex to sue them in OSRS. There's a few ways to buy membership without utilizing the standard form of credit card or other methods but if Jagex upped the security in their buying memberships for new accounts or even hacked accounts then this could theoretically be why its increasing in OSRS. Not to mention, for some people it might be easier to maintain OSRS membership since its much easier to make money there to supply membership for both games especially with the best RS3 methods all requiring intense high level PvM now.
Bonds are rising because the price of living is rising, so people have to spend more money on things to live, so there's less extra income to spend on things like bonds. People want to feel like their dollar is going further. Less bonds bought creates less of a supply, making it more expensive by default. Its not just rs3 experiencing this. It's everything.
@@New_Name_Plz it's not a theory. It's a product of inflation. If someone who could, for example, buy 10 bonds before inflation, but can only afford 2-3 because they have to spend extra on gas or food, naturally they'd want those 2 or 3 to give more value than they used to.
If you do remember the just before necro periods, mods were highly annoyed by the gatekeeping of high level gear and a while before that about the rare items. all they are doing are fixing 20 year old issues.
Bonds are just way to expensive. I used to create a fresh account give them a bond and go spend 14 days on a challenge run. Now. I am going to have to give those type of accounts membership.
im predicting that in around 1.5 year the bonds will be 20 mil, the playerbase is not big, there is less and less reason to buy a bond for real money since u can grind it out easily and i do wonder if there will be a moment where we will run out of bonds on GE
I think he meant 200m each bond, in which I agree. If he actually meant 20m each bond then disregard this comment, I rather not debate with people that lacks common sense to put it politely.
Also imo if rs3 doesn’t repeat something as big as releasing an update such as necromancy to bring back player base the game will be screwed in 2-3 years, so any worries about bond being overpriced is just redundant anyways. If they bring back good updates, as we saw in the case of necromancy, player base returns and more people buys bonds and bond price lowers. So kind of useless to worry about bond prices.
I agree a lot of rs3 people are switching to osrs, if you joined any rs discord that does osrs to rs3 gp swapping and vice versa, you can see based on the rate changes over the last year it is clearly the case.
Bonds are going up because not many players are buying them with real money.
That about sums it up
Also active player base is shrinking
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I wish I was in a spot where I could buy membership instead of grinding for bonds in game. Definitely makes the game less enjoyable but my job has crashed with the economy so I have no other way
That's the downside for sure. Bonds are expensive enough that it feels like a chore to keep your bond and the people who need it the most are priced out
What’s your RS, aren’t they like under £10? I can spare a few, remember being in that position 10 years ago and now I’m a portfolio manager who enjoys RS on the side!
@@itooflemmathat’s super nice of you to offer
So I think you missed one major point in the discussion but otherwise you discussed almost everything. The question is who buys bonds and for what reasons? In RuneScape 3, there's a few people who buy bonds. The first being those folks who want to keep or maintain their membership by making in game money to pay for their play time (not my personal favorite). The second are people buy bonds for cosmetic items. Jagex has in numerous events tied bonds to certain TH events (like the one from last week) or to Seasonal Events like Easter Event which boosted your benefits but also depleted the bonds that were in the game. Now those were RuneScape 3 bond uses but in Old School RuneScape, the bonds also function the same as a way to sustain your membership but the thing is most people don't realize that if you get membership in one of the games you have it for both games. So that means that Bots which OSRS is filled with, can buy membership from either games to sustain themselves and have an anonymous way to buy it since it isn't tied to a credit card where they can backcharge Jagex (they did this in 2008 btw). So now you have 3 big reasons why bonds are being bought which has led to such a high demand that they're resulting in these high prices now. This is definitely intentional, especially because of the second reason so I can see the prices going higher and higher unless there's a particular benefit to lowering the cost of the bond with real money or not utilizing it for TH events.
Seasonal evens are definitely big and drive increased buying in rs3. Especially for treasure hunter.
@@New_Name_Plz Yea, I honestly thought bonds would stay at 100m for awhile but them doing these TH Events and Easter Events, has just kept spiking the bond prices for RS3 so I expect it to just keep going up until Jagex thinks its time. Luckily most RS3 players only buy bonds for cosmetic reasons or to stockpile them for these type of events and that's what I do. Keep 4 to 5 in hand for any cool event that I actually care about.
To me it still doesn't explain why osrs bonds are also at all time highs though. I think it has more to do with increasing the cost for a bond irl. It's overall cheaper to buy keys and membership. Only the super rich use bonds for treasure hunter events
@@New_Name_Plz I always assumed a good chunk of the bots bought bonds since the bot owners probably didn't want a traceable way back for Jagex to sue them in OSRS. There's a few ways to buy membership without utilizing the standard form of credit card or other methods but if Jagex upped the security in their buying memberships for new accounts or even hacked accounts then this could theoretically be why its increasing in OSRS. Not to mention, for some people it might be easier to maintain OSRS membership since its much easier to make money there to supply membership for both games especially with the best RS3 methods all requiring intense high level PvM now.
people buy them in osrs...
Bonds are rising because the price of living is rising, so people have to spend more money on things to live, so there's less extra income to spend on things like bonds. People want to feel like their dollar is going further. Less bonds bought creates less of a supply, making it more expensive by default. Its not just rs3 experiencing this. It's everything.
I'd say that is also a good theory!
@@New_Name_Plz it's not a theory. It's a product of inflation. If someone who could, for example, buy 10 bonds before inflation, but can only afford 2-3 because they have to spend extra on gas or food, naturally they'd want those 2 or 3 to give more value than they used to.
@@New_Name_Plz inflation op big dawg. We work 40+ a week. We get paid the same. Every day items get more expensive. ?????
I'm OSRS player how many hour to get bond in this game
Depends on what you do and your level in f2p probably 20-30hrs in members if you do the right boss 1 drop but realistically 4-8hrs
Like a day if you dont like sunlight, amethyst ore. Yw
If you do remember the just before necro periods, mods were highly annoyed by the gatekeeping of high level gear and a while before that about the rare items.
all they are doing are fixing 20 year old issues.
Agreed the gear gatekeeping was horrid.
Bonds are just way to expensive.
I used to create a fresh account give them a bond and go spend 14 days on a challenge run.
Now. I am going to have to give those type of accounts membership.
Honestly I have always found bonds to be too expensive for 14days of membership even when they were 40m
I hope bond's keep rising I have 3 tradeables in my bank and would love to make good money off them
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More isn't always better. take into account cost of living/items. Having more gold doesn't matter if everything is more expensive.
im predicting that in around 1.5 year the bonds will be 20 mil, the playerbase is not big, there is less and less reason to buy a bond for real money since u can grind it out easily and i do wonder if there will be a moment where we will run out of bonds on GE
Idk I see it going up. I also think rs3 still has a chance to pull itself out of the pit it's in.
idk man, i think newer gen ppl will go play albion, similar vibe to runescape and much more pvp potential, doubt that rs or osrs can have ff14 moment
I think he meant 200m each bond, in which I agree. If he actually meant 20m each bond then disregard this comment, I rather not debate with people that lacks common sense to put it politely.
lol 4b each year for 1 year of membership is still kinda cheap imo, since earning about 1.5b-2b each dxpw from merching is very possible.
Also imo if rs3 doesn’t repeat something as big as releasing an update such as necromancy to bring back player base the game will be screwed in 2-3 years, so any worries about bond being overpriced is just redundant anyways. If they bring back good updates, as we saw in the case of necromancy, player base returns and more people buys bonds and bond price lowers. So kind of useless to worry about bond prices.
The rise is bc the value of the current currency is dropping like flies
Does that include the osrs bond which has also reached a new ATH?
@@New_Name_Plz it's bc it's osrs, everyone n they mom play osrs brotha
I honestly don't think the active real players are that far off I think alot of osrs players have multiple accounts and multi log
ez they increase prices which makes it harder to sustain an account which kind of forces free to play players to sub
That's kinda what I was thinking. They want bonds to be more for people to buy money with and not so much for f2p to get membership with.
i heard even f2p runescape3 is fun af
I've had fun with it on some alts
Ha
Its not cause new players are coming in
What are new players? We all just bounce back and forth between osrs and rs3
@New_Name_Plz osrs hitting new all time highs is new players :P
I honestly don't think younger gamers are making osrs accounts I'd argue at best it is returning players.
I agree a lot of rs3 people are switching to osrs, if you joined any rs discord that does osrs to rs3 gp swapping and vice versa, you can see based on the rate changes over the last year it is clearly the case.
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10 minutes just to tell "economy works" is kinda crazy man, talk faster or something :(
No I don't wanna
@@New_Name_Plz dats ur choice to make less viewable content, im not forsing u to improve and grow, damn