The thing I like about PRS is that if I want to buy a Strat I'd have to go out try 50 to find the right one. With PRS I can order any model in the mail and it will show up and play perfectly.
I just got the Silver Sky this week. It's plays and sounds so good. And I was honestly looking to get a Fender for the longest. Sweetwater had financing deals and it was only 6 months for a Fender which made the payments high. The Silver Sky was a 24 months finance which made the payments $100 a month, very doable. Boy, I am glad I got the PRS. I own several guitars, but this one just feels so good, I wake up and crave playing it. It inspires me.
Having been through over 40 Suhrs / PRS combined, I can tell you that Suhr has the consistency thing down even better than PRS. It's mind-boggling how perfect every Suhr I've ever picked up has been.
The best part about this video is how hard Mark Hopkins digs into that PRS while testing it. He really let that guitar have it, and he dug all the sounds out of it he possibly could in 20 minutes on it. Great video. Sweet jam guys.
I'm at the point in my life where i dont wanna "fight" my guitar. I used to have that feeling to string it a bit heavier/higher action for tone purposes, but why? Whats wrong with buttery? You dig? Besides the player makes the difference in tone anyway. Tone is 80% hands imho.
I think he means the guitar is expressive rather than difficult to play. These classic shape guitars have a really characteristic & organic sound about them. Really percussive & true. My Suhr T is like that. It translates what you're playing really well. I think it's made me into a better player really because I really zone in on the sounds i'm producing.
As I get older, big strings hurt my fingers: knuckles pop, and start hurting. The sexy of bigger strings is quickly gone when you have to crack a finger mid-Solo! Tony Iommi, BB King and Billy Gibbons use 7 gauge and I understand why! Plus these days you can get Cobalt strings that sound much bigger than normal strings ...
I don't think that's what he meant. Some guitars are great sounding but less dynamic, it's 0-30-90-100, and nothing in between. Some guitars allows you to get the inbetween stuff better but is harder to maximize. Makes sense with heavier strings and a flatter radius. I find at least on my classic S, suhrs modern pickups compresses much more, so you are always in that inbetween zone and need to push it a bit for the notes to be expressed. Much easier to play than a comparable Fender. I wonder how that Silver Sky will sound in real life, super intrigued.
ThemFuzzyMonsters I stupidly played a stiff bending guitar for yrs. and from over texting I got what’s called dequervein’s tendinitis. My thumbs stopped working and severe pain and zero help. So it was hard but a yr of no playing. Almost went crazy. But that wasn’t the end. Two, not one frozen shoulders I’m still recovering. I don’t think you recover 100%. And my fretting hand turned into a pretzel, all twisted. Knuckles swollen and red. And thumb starts aching again. It’s still not right but I refuse to give up. So got thinner strings. Mixed then with my 9-42’s. Hand recovered but thumb just aches all the time. Using Billy Gibbon’s strings. Tuned down and still play but not with the hands I used to. It’s something I have to live with. Sadly. Just when I got really good. I’ve been playing since I was a kid. Was ignorant. The teacher never mentioned this stiff bending issue. The store here refused to sell thinner strings. So that’s how I ended up after yrs of thinking I was taking great care of my hands.
Why do people say tone is in the hands? It's not really. Maybe the opposite of what you said. 10 - 20%. You dont tell who's playing guitar by their "tone". You know who's playing by their riffs, licks, phrasing, vibrato, and playing style. 90% tone comes from the amp and the pickups. You could give anyone SRVs setup and get that chimey Texas blues tone but what makes the player is their style of playing through what they're actually playing.
Suhr sounded sick through hat-dude’s rig, I like his lyrical phrasing too. Dig the other guy’s more eccentric style too, nice to hear things other than SRV and Jimi being played on a strat.
While this guy does one of the best demos of the Silver Sky I've seen, I disagree that it doesn't feel like a Strat. 7.25 radius tiny frets is vintage, and there's nothing wrong w low action and playing like butter! PRS has some of the best setups in the industry, and I've played my share of Suhr. PRS also sounds more "stratty" to me.
I own two PRS guitars and thinking about a Suhr. Steep bucks. I’m also a Crook guitar guy. Specs to what asked for and less money. The other guitars are off the shelf stuff unless y’all wanna spend even more money. Some guitar companies seem to be geared to only the big venue players. Us small venue honky tonk players really are not what these guitar builders care about. THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. That’s what drives them lol 😂
Mark Hopkins what an awesome guitarist and loved the review . Also loved the “moe.” shout out as to why he played fender in college, moe. is such great band. When it comes down to it it really is all about feel . Two great guitars and two great guitarists. Appreciate the honest review.
Just want to thank you again for your videos inparticualy the one on "slamming the door" something clicked for me. And I just want you to know which you probably already do, which is something I know, because I'm 53 years old, that you still need to hear it and that is, that you have a special gift for communicating and keeping people interested. I've learned more from you in 5 or 6 months and not only about guitar but life in general than I have for a long time. I truly respect you I wish I lived across the street from you. Lol any way keep it up and thanks again. Jeff from northern California.
Okay, so seeing this there is absolutely no doubt that the Suhr is the better strat. Like, by far. Not even close. BUT I don't think the point of the PRS is to be a strat or a super strat. It might be along the lines of a strat, it might've been inspired by a strat (next to other things) but it's something completely different. It's like he said in the beginning: it's not a strat but it's also not a PRS. It's something new. THAT is the point of this guitar. It's a new breed. And there are definitely not many people on this earth that are capable of creating something new in the world of guitars. Paul Reed Smith just showed us that he is one of those who can do that. Absolutely outstanding Paul, great job! Whoever wants the best strat money can buy: get the Suhr, hands down. Whoever has played everything on the market and is looking for something fresh and inspiring. Something that will make your fret hand feel like back in the day, when everything was new: by God, pick up the PRS.
I think the point is that it most definitely is trying to be a Strat. Otherwise why would it exist at all? There are plenty of other guitars in the PRS range that can create a reasonable single coil approximation, but remain distinct and different.
I got an 18 model. Really love it, but I can see where it might not be for everybody. The quality and tones sold me. I don’t mind the neck thickness. I adapt pretty easyly. Great video guys and awesome playing. I’m 71 yrs old, played a lot of guitars. I love the USA silver sky. Thanks fellas.
Cool..It's great to see/hear guys not just talking about this stuff, but who really know how to play . Good session. Thanks Guitar gate. You like that thorn bucker the most. Great sound .cheers
I have the same white silver sky. A 2018 that was used I got for 1700$ it is great I’ve had it for a while now and I still love it just as much as they day I got it.
Great vid! Thanks! I've never been more inspired by a guitar than the frost colored Silver Sky. I've been waiting for the perfect guitar for me since I was 9, and this feels like the first iteration of that beast. Now to find a way to acquire one! Thanks again for the multiple videos featuring this guitar. I also loved hearing Mark's honest take.
Aloha Braddahs! Whoah! Awesome jam session! I’ve played hundreds of other guitars….shapes, brands, models, etc. and my preferences are two types….Fender Strats and Gibson SGs or SG shapes….BUT to this very day, I have yet to pick up and try a Suhr or the newer PRS JM. Nicely done Braddahs, that’s how you do a comparison….you pound all kinds of riffs, playing styles, nuances, articulations through it softly and beat it in harder on a long jam, hahaha! Mahalo nui loa for sharing, enjoyed your styles of playing da two axes! Aloha….PAU!
Had a silver sky I own a suhr, being a busy father, the best choice for me was the suhr, feels so comfortable and precise. The silver sky, after not playing it for a while always had a small time to readjust back to it, and for me, I go through a shred tapping phase every year, the silver sky for that was a little more difficult. In other words, the Silver sky is great but no quiver killer. The Suhr way more versatile and a one guitar for it all.
Prefer the clarity of the PRS. I like a strat where every position can do that super clear funk/R&B/Soul tone. I let the amp ad the bass back in if needed. The suhr seems more bassy and higher output which is definitely a tone with a purpose, but I feel like I hear less of the straty characteristics. These day's I find other brands get closer to the strat tone I have in my head then fender does.
G&L Fullerton Deluxe ASAT classic is still the greatest guitar I’ve ever touched. Like over thousands picked up. Still haven’t found a better production guitar. And for $2K it’s literally unbeatable. Better than 90% of the custom shops I see. When people ask for a guitar to do it all for electric style playing, I recommended that one 100/100 times. I’m quite certain there isn’t a better way to spend $2,000 on this planet.
Great comparison. I like that it comes down to personal taste and isn't a good/bad discussion. Haters just f up the discussion of nuance, and it's all about nuance. I miss Baltimore accents. They are "southern" and yet they are their own thing. I've lived in Mississippi for a while now, and they say I'm speaking with a northern accent. Like guitars, we all come at it from where we are.
I have a Suhr Classic S HSS, and it is absolutely a great guitar. I probably spent less money just saving up and getting a Suhr rather than going for Fender like I’ve done in the past and modding it. I don’t feel like changing anything about the Suhr. The only Fender that comes close that I’ve tried is an American Pro HSS Strat, but when I bought one for myself, it had some problems in the finish and the bridge. That prompted me to try a Suhr, and I’m glad I did! I remember trying a Silver Sky briefly once, and it had one of the best 4th position tones I had ever heard. However, I did not like the knobs/plastics for some reason. I’d like to try one again some time!
This just proves how subjective guitar judgments are. The Suhr is a fine instrument and I've played a few through the years but i have just bought the PRS because it spoke to me. It's so easy to pick holes in something when its a new product and I for one think its PRS over Suhr and anything else I've tried of this strat-style.. Great video. Thanks.
Have a PRS custom 22; the best sounding pickups out of all guitars I own-especially articulated on string bends where it sings best. However, I own 3 Suhr guitars; Alt-T Pro, Suhr Classic T Pro Humbucker - Single coil, Suhr Classic T. Bigger bodies on the Suhr vs PRS Custom 22’s smaller body that’s awkward to play while sitting as body sits lower; lacking comfort and playability of Suhr. Both Suhr Alt T Pro and Custom 22 have 5 way switches with dual humbuckers. Feel Suhr has greater sustain, volume over PRS 22. It’s just the string bends on the PRS Custom 22 are beautiful with wavers of sweet tones. But the PRS rotary switch has got to go as Suhr has a 5 way switch which is easier to manipulate. Ten top on PRS makes it a work of art. The Suhr Alt T Pro is a hollow body that’s more traditional and elegant in its own way. Suhr and PRS guitars are beautiful alternatives to Gibson and Fender guitars.
Thanks guys I was waiting for a comparison of these two. I have a Suhr pro classic and was wondering how the Prs felt compared to the Suhr. I’m a big Prs fan also.
The way he talks about the suhr is way I felt when I picked up the Guthrie charvel. Just felt out of this world coming off the back of the strat. I hated that silver sky when it landed, but now I’m really itching to try it. It’s really grown on me and wanted a clapton strat next.
My wife has the Maryland accent really bad. It creeps out sometimes. She grew up near Annapolis. I grew up in Montgomery County and don’t have it. Great playing and tones fellas.
I'm in the market for a strat style guitar. I'm getting tired of looking for one, but this video puts things in perspective for me every time I watch it.
I have a Fender John Mayer Stratocaster setup with Ernie Ball 11s and agree that it has to fight back a bit. It handles all I throw at it with an "is that all you've got" feeling. I'd really like to try a Suhr sometime. That bridge pickup has it.
My take: The PRS has a sweeter, more open sound, somewhat hi-fi and crystalline. Slightly scooped mids with sparkling lows and highs, tons of harmonics. Excellent note separation and detail. The Suhr is much more of a flamethrower. It has a soaring, singing tone with huge, focused mids and a tighter bass. Stronger fundamental with less prominent harmonics. It reminds me a lot of a vintage hardtail with slightly overwound pickups. Definitely a matter of taste, but I prefer the Suhr because it sounds more passionate and powerful. They actually sound great together.
Perfect video to test the speakers on my new walmart HP chromebook lol It passed. Thanks guys that was awesome jam two great players and guitars wow tone heaven!
Signature models are always difficult because the name on it sometimes constrains artists ability to embrace a product. Many artists online, seem to be hesitant to make the PRS Silver Sky their number 1, as they always have a guitar that happens to be a non-signature allowing themselves to have a more personalized relationship. John Mayer’s SRV strat removed the engraved plate to make it his own. It’s almost as if Hopkins modifying his Suhr made it personal for him. Now I am thinking of taking the Silver Sky plate and having it redone with my initials/signature. Just a thought. On a side note, I bought a singlecut SE (for 100$) at a second hand shop and fell in love with the craftsmanship and tone of PRS’s entry level guitar. After this, I was intrigued about PRS’s s-type guitar and began playing it at my local music shop. I loved the smaller fret size, body shape, left of center, and tone. This tone strikes a tuning fork in my heart, and while I know Fender and Suhr enthusiasts feel a bond and uniqueness to it (which is completely legit) - I connect with Paul Reed Smith’s nerdiness to detail and passion for instrument history. I wonder how Hopkin’s would have felt if the Silver Sky wasn’t attached to Mayer and was instead PRS’s s-type guitar? Great conversation, and great playing. I think if PRS hadn’t hooked me with their entry level efforts, I might have been looking at Suhr’s as well. That being said, I could not be happier with my Silver Sky.
I have both the Silver Sky and CE Dustie Waring (mainly metal/rock player) and the plates are the only thing with their names, I wish I could get a blank anodized one too.
Not a fair comparison IMHO. The Silver Sky is modelled after John Mayer's '63/64 Fender Strats, the Suhr Classic Pro is a totally different tool (modern neck radius, HSS config., tremolo bridge with dual steel knife edge pivot points ). If it had to be a Suhr/PRS comparison, the Scott Henderson Signature would have been more appropriate. It is also based after Henderson's vintage Fender Strats, and both guitars are fitted with the same three single-coil pickups (output wise) as well as a classic six screw vibrato bridge. Maybe next time...and don't forget to put a Thornbucker into the Silver Sky 😉. Great playing by both of you btw.
Awesome demo and playing! Any chance you can list the pedals used? In particular I'm curious what the leslie effect was as well as the octave effect. Thanks!
Hey Josh! I was using the Strymon Lex for the Leslie effect, Micro Pog for the Octave and my overdrive was the Vemuram Jan Ray. I think that's all I used haha - I love pedals!
Neither is better nor worse, they are just completely different. I own a Suhr Classic Pro exactly like Marks except I’ve got the stock HB. I definitely agree with Mark about preferring a more modern neck. I was surprised the PRS could do a Major 4th bend without fretting out and so I stand corrected there but I’ll be keeping my Suhr.
I just bought a Suhr Classic S Paulownia AND a 2019 frost silver sky. I really enjoy both! there are different things to like about both. But two days into owning my Silver Sky I almost want to sell it because the frets are just so short. I’m dragging on the fretboard every bend and losing the string, even. I bought a 2019 for the sound of the higher output pickups that are in the ‘18 & ‘19 models.
I have Suhrs and a PRS Silver Sky, I would say IMHO the Suhr feels a lot better in the hands than the SS, also the SCII eliminates the annoying 60 cycle which is very very noticeable in the SS. I would say the Suhr is a 9.5/10 while he SS is a 7/10.
The way he says it doesn’t fight you like a strat makes it seem like it’s the perfect guitar for short scale (gibson, gretsch, prs) players who want strat-like tone.
.........I dunno.......I still love my Squire Bullet Strats......$75.00 used at GC, and when set up, abso-f'n-loutly RIP.....sigh....guess it's just me.
Dude! I don't know who you are, but this video is fucking awesome. If you do more stuff playing with friends and guests, you'll definitely get me hooked. Love your style. cheers
The Suhr seems a bit more hotter and compressed while the PRS seems much more dynamic and responds greater to the fingers. I suppose this makes the Suhr more forgiving. Both are good, but that thornbucker will make you like the "Strat" bridge.
guys? What pedal(s) are U using at the beginning of the jam (and actually from there on as a loop) for the "Leslie-like" sound on the Silver Sky? Thanks a lot - that is the soud I am hopelessly searching for!!
Played a Suhr for a week and thought it was very nice but not as great as people had hyped them to be - weirdly modern. JMSS is much better than I expected (wanted to hate it). Still love my Fender CS Strat a bit better but JMSS is one hell of a guitar.
I’ve played both and the prs is more comfortable to me and true the original strat sound wise. Being a suhr owner it has many nice features and better aesthetics that I prefer but the prs definitely sounds more like an old real strat
Ganjang gongjangjang yee. The prs sounds and feels killer but is ugly. Suhr sounds and feels good but is gorgeous . Wish fender custom shop wasn’t so darn over priced =/
The Suhr sounded throat-er not just on the hot bridge pick-up. Action and gage of strings can be easily changed to suit taste. The neck is a matter of taste so for $2200 must try both for a while.
I'm not so much a "strat" kinda guy as I am a "super-strat" kinda guy. My first electric was an Ibanez StageStar Super-Strat with HSS pickup config, and every guitar I've owned since has followed that sorta shape. My main guitar nowadays is a Jackson SLATTXMG Soloist. They're great value-for-money guitars and they play like a dream. Also probably the cheapest quality neck-thru guitar you could possibly find these days. Mine cost me only $700 CAD. I think there may even be a version that has non-EMG pickups in it, too, but I could be wrong about that one.
I may be alone, but I prefer the sound of the silver sky by a pretty large margin here...and the comments on the action and tremolo are how I normally would set a strat anyway.
The Suhr, at least through the rig on the left, sounds great, but it sounds nothing like a Strat, imo. The PRS sounds great and very Strat like. I like a higher setup, myself, but thought Mark did an outstanding job with the lower action. To be fair, the action on the PRS should have been set up to his liking, before the video.
Thanks Mark, good device for practising. In the end did your prefer your Suhr Classis Pro ?. I have decided on a Suhr Classic Antique or Classic Pro. cheers and thanks.
The Suhr was my personal guitar and I have to say, I do prefer it over the Mayer PRS. But that's just my opinion and my hands. For some reason the necks on the Suhrs just feel better to me. You can't go wrong if you decide to get one!
The thing I like about PRS is that if I want to buy a Strat I'd have to go out try 50 to find the right one. With PRS I can order any model in the mail and it will show up and play perfectly.
can agree. fender Strats vary way too much..
I just got the Silver Sky this week. It's plays and sounds so good. And I was honestly looking to get a Fender for the longest. Sweetwater had financing deals and it was only 6 months for a Fender which made the payments high. The Silver Sky was a 24 months finance which made the payments $100 a month, very doable. Boy, I am glad I got the PRS. I own several guitars, but this one just feels so good, I wake up and crave playing it. It inspires me.
Having been through over 40 Suhrs / PRS combined, I can tell you that Suhr has the consistency thing down even better than PRS. It's mind-boggling how perfect every Suhr I've ever picked up has been.
Suhr quality is top shelf..I ordered 2...suhr clasic pro and a suhr tele ...both AMAZING
Suhr is the best
The best part about this video is how hard Mark Hopkins digs into that PRS while testing it. He really let that guitar have it, and he dug all the sounds out of it he possibly could in 20 minutes on it. Great video. Sweet jam guys.
“BB King strummed my guitar, looked at me rather quizzically and said, ‘Why you working so hard?’” -Billy Gibbons
I'm at the point in my life where i dont wanna "fight" my guitar. I used to have that feeling to string it a bit heavier/higher action for tone purposes, but why? Whats wrong with buttery? You dig? Besides the player makes the difference in tone anyway. Tone is 80% hands imho.
I think he means the guitar is expressive rather than difficult to play. These classic shape guitars have a really characteristic & organic sound about them. Really percussive & true. My Suhr T is like that. It translates what you're playing really well. I think it's made me into a better player really because I really zone in on the sounds i'm producing.
As I get older, big strings hurt my fingers: knuckles pop, and start hurting. The sexy of bigger strings is quickly gone when you have to crack a finger mid-Solo!
Tony Iommi, BB King and Billy Gibbons use 7 gauge and I understand why!
Plus these days you can get Cobalt strings that sound much bigger than normal strings ...
I don't think that's what he meant. Some guitars are great sounding but less dynamic, it's 0-30-90-100, and nothing in between. Some guitars allows you to get the inbetween stuff better but is harder to maximize. Makes sense with heavier strings and a flatter radius. I find at least on my classic S, suhrs modern pickups compresses much more, so you are always in that inbetween zone and need to push it a bit for the notes to be expressed. Much easier to play than a comparable Fender. I wonder how that Silver Sky will sound in real life, super intrigued.
ThemFuzzyMonsters I stupidly played a stiff bending guitar for yrs. and from over texting I got what’s called dequervein’s tendinitis. My thumbs stopped working and severe pain and zero help. So it was hard but a yr of no playing. Almost went crazy. But that wasn’t the end. Two, not one frozen shoulders I’m still recovering. I don’t think you recover 100%. And my fretting hand turned into a pretzel, all twisted. Knuckles swollen and red. And thumb starts aching again. It’s still not right but I refuse to give up. So got thinner strings. Mixed then with my 9-42’s. Hand recovered but thumb just aches all the time. Using Billy Gibbon’s strings. Tuned down and still play but not with the hands I used to. It’s something I have to live with. Sadly. Just when I got really good. I’ve been playing since I was a kid. Was ignorant. The teacher never mentioned this stiff bending issue. The store here refused to sell thinner strings. So that’s how I ended up after yrs of thinking I was taking great care of my hands.
Why do people say tone is in the hands? It's not really. Maybe the opposite of what you said. 10 - 20%. You dont tell who's playing guitar by their "tone". You know who's playing by their riffs, licks, phrasing, vibrato, and playing style. 90% tone comes from the amp and the pickups. You could give anyone SRVs setup and get that chimey Texas blues tone but what makes the player is their style of playing through what they're actually playing.
Suhr sounded sick through hat-dude’s rig, I like his lyrical phrasing too. Dig the other guy’s more eccentric style too, nice to hear things other than SRV and Jimi being played on a strat.
David Gilmour, Eric Clapton and Dave Murray play Strats too.
While this guy does one of the best demos of the Silver Sky I've seen, I disagree that it doesn't feel like a Strat. 7.25 radius tiny frets is vintage, and there's nothing wrong w low action and playing like butter! PRS has some of the best setups in the industry, and I've played my share of Suhr. PRS also sounds more "stratty" to me.
Agreed doesn’t feel like a strat to me either!
Struggling to hear what he's saying.
Mark put the guitar strap over the lav mic. I tried to fix it in post as best as I could, but there's still some very quiet moments. My apologies!
Yeah, also, lav mics are not in the best place and orientation, also. Cool video, though. Nice.
As long as you can hear the playing that’s what matters
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I own two PRS guitars and thinking about a Suhr. Steep bucks. I’m also a Crook guitar guy. Specs to what asked for and less money. The other guitars are off the shelf stuff unless y’all wanna spend even more money. Some guitar companies seem to be geared to only the big venue players. Us small venue honky tonk players really are not what these guitar builders care about. THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. That’s what drives them lol 😂
Mark Hopkins what an awesome guitarist and loved the review . Also loved the “moe.” shout out as to why he played fender in college, moe. is such great band. When it comes down to it it really is all about feel . Two great guitars and two great guitarists. Appreciate the honest review.
Just want to thank you again for your videos inparticualy the one on "slamming the door" something clicked for me. And I just want you to know which you probably already do, which is something I know, because I'm 53 years old, that you still need to hear it and that is, that you have a special gift for communicating and keeping people interested. I've learned more from you in 5 or 6 months and not only about guitar but life in general than I have for a long time. I truly respect you I wish I lived across the street from you. Lol any way keep it up and thanks again. Jeff from northern California.
Jeffrey Wasilchen thanks so much brother!!
Okay, so seeing this there is absolutely no doubt that the Suhr is the better strat. Like, by far. Not even close. BUT I don't think the point of the PRS is to be a strat or a super strat. It might be along the lines of a strat, it might've been inspired by a strat (next to other things) but it's something completely different. It's like he said in the beginning: it's not a strat but it's also not a PRS. It's something new. THAT is the point of this guitar. It's a new breed. And there are definitely not many people on this earth that are capable of creating something new in the world of guitars. Paul Reed Smith just showed us that he is one of those who can do that. Absolutely outstanding Paul, great job!
Whoever wants the best strat money can buy: get the Suhr, hands down.
Whoever has played everything on the market and is looking for something fresh and inspiring. Something that will make your fret hand feel like back in the day, when everything was new: by God, pick up the PRS.
You nailed it. Thanks!
Nicely put Frank
I think the point is that it most definitely is trying to be a Strat. Otherwise why would it exist at all? There are plenty of other guitars in the PRS range that can create a reasonable single coil approximation, but remain distinct and different.
No way
I'm the proud owner of the silver sky!! It's my guitar for life , nothing else compares. I'll take Butter any day over struggle!
Suhrs play like butter too,the man has set it up his own way with 11's on it.They come with 10's from the factory,they are very easy to play
I"m loving both of those guitars, but I'm partial to PRS. I LOVE my McCarty 594. I play it every day.
I got an 18 model. Really love it, but I can see where it might not be for everybody. The quality and tones sold me. I don’t mind the neck thickness. I adapt pretty easyly. Great video guys and awesome playing. I’m 71 yrs old, played a lot of guitars. I love the USA silver sky. Thanks fellas.
Man, you guys are sick together. I would pay good money to see this live.
The Silver Sky sounds more “Strat” to me than the Suhr.
I thought the same thing. The pickups on the Suhr are way too hot for my liking.
i would get the Suhr over the silver sky any day...
Same.
Mayer created a monster. A monster with feelings, made to be loved
LOL!
I wish I wasnt left handed
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Cool..It's great to see/hear guys not just talking about this stuff, but who really know how to play . Good session. Thanks Guitar gate. You like that thorn bucker the most. Great sound .cheers
Thanks! yeah that's no joke!
I have the same white silver sky. A 2018 that was used I got for 1700$ it is great I’ve had it for a while now and I still love it just as much as they day I got it.
Great vid! Thanks! I've never been more inspired by a guitar than the frost colored Silver Sky. I've been waiting for the perfect guitar for me since I was 9, and this feels like the first iteration of that beast. Now to find a way to acquire one! Thanks again for the multiple videos featuring this guitar.
I also loved hearing Mark's honest take.
Great! Best of luck and thanks for the comment :)
I own a grey or silver one. If you find the money to get one do yourself a favor and get it, it’s amazing don’t regret drooping 2.3k on it !
@@Guitargate Guys I finally got my white Silver Sky! Its incredible!
It's a fantastic guitar it seems. A great alternative to fender.
Aloha Braddahs! Whoah! Awesome jam session! I’ve played hundreds of other guitars….shapes, brands, models, etc. and my preferences are two types….Fender Strats and Gibson SGs or SG shapes….BUT to this very day, I have yet to pick up and try a Suhr or the newer PRS JM. Nicely done Braddahs, that’s how you do a comparison….you pound all kinds of riffs, playing styles, nuances, articulations through it softly and beat it in harder on a long jam, hahaha! Mahalo nui loa for sharing, enjoyed your styles of playing da two axes! Aloha….PAU!
one of my dream guitar is SUHR classic pro... i loved using it in a church sound soon if i have it in my own...
You will love it
I had one. Heavy as hell.
The deadening of the Silver Sky on the higher registers when he bends is because of the 7.25" radius. That's the nature of the beast.
Of course J.Mayer claims "fretting out" is not a problem with his his Silver sky, and small frets, yuk.
Had a silver sky I own a suhr, being a busy father, the best choice for me was the suhr, feels so comfortable and precise. The silver sky, after not playing it for a while always had a small time to readjust back to it, and for me, I go through a shred tapping phase every year, the silver sky for that was a little more difficult.
In other words, the Silver sky is great but no quiver killer. The Suhr way more versatile and a one guitar for it all.
If you can do without the vintage appointments, and are looking for a modern, versatile and a players guitar, its tough to beat Suhr for those things!
Prefer the clarity of the PRS. I like a strat where every position can do that super clear funk/R&B/Soul tone. I let the amp ad the bass back in if needed. The suhr seems more bassy and higher output which is definitely a tone with a purpose, but I feel like I hear less of the straty characteristics. These day's I find other brands get closer to the strat tone I have in my head then fender does.
Great take on it. Thanks for sharing
And they've left out the truest of all Strats... The G&L Legacy...
The best guitar Leo Fender ever made lol..
G&L Fullerton Deluxe ASAT classic is still the greatest guitar I’ve ever touched. Like over thousands picked up. Still haven’t found a better production guitar. And for $2K it’s literally unbeatable. Better than 90% of the custom shops I see. When people ask for a guitar to do it all for electric style playing, I recommended that one 100/100 times. I’m quite certain there isn’t a better way to spend $2,000 on this planet.
My two dream guitars in one video, how sweet is that?
I think this was the best and tastiest jam on the internet. Congrats
Thanks!!!
My friend this is the best UA-cam vid you’ve done. It showcases your latent skill.
He says he can’t play it and then proceeds to play flawlessly!!! Sounds killer!
Silver Sky Sound more articulate, and note definition is perfect to me. I love this vintage vibe
Prefer the flatter neck,prefer the thornbuckers, prefer the suhr, not sure why but I prefer the warmer suhr tone.
Great comparison. I like that it comes down to personal taste and isn't a good/bad discussion. Haters just f up the discussion of nuance, and it's all about nuance. I miss Baltimore accents. They are "southern" and yet they are their own thing. I've lived in Mississippi for a while now, and they say I'm speaking with a northern accent. Like guitars, we all come at it from where we are.
I have a Suhr Classic S HSS, and it is absolutely a great guitar. I probably spent less money just saving up and getting a Suhr rather than going for Fender like I’ve done in the past and modding it. I don’t feel like changing anything about the Suhr.
The only Fender that comes close that I’ve tried is an American Pro HSS Strat, but when I bought one for myself, it had some problems in the finish and the bridge. That prompted me to try a Suhr, and I’m glad I did!
I remember trying a Silver Sky briefly once, and it had one of the best 4th position tones I had ever heard. However, I did not like the knobs/plastics for some reason. I’d like to try one again some time!
This just proves how subjective guitar judgments are. The Suhr is a fine instrument and I've played a few through the years but i have just bought the PRS because it spoke to me. It's so easy to pick holes in something when its a new product and I for one think its PRS over Suhr and anything else I've tried of this strat-style.. Great video. Thanks.
Very welcome. Thanks for sharing and yes - it's all about how it feels and sounds to YOU!
Have a PRS custom 22; the best sounding pickups out of all guitars I own-especially articulated on string bends where it sings best. However, I own 3 Suhr guitars; Alt-T Pro, Suhr Classic T Pro Humbucker - Single coil, Suhr Classic T. Bigger bodies on the Suhr vs PRS Custom 22’s smaller body that’s awkward to play while sitting as body sits lower; lacking comfort and playability of Suhr. Both Suhr Alt T Pro and Custom 22 have 5 way switches with dual humbuckers. Feel Suhr has greater sustain, volume over PRS 22. It’s just the string bends on the PRS Custom 22 are beautiful with wavers of sweet tones. But the PRS rotary switch has got to go as Suhr has a 5 way switch which is easier to manipulate. Ten top on PRS makes it a work of art. The Suhr Alt T Pro is a hollow body that’s more traditional and elegant in its own way. Suhr and PRS guitars are beautiful alternatives to Gibson and Fender guitars.
Thanks guys I was waiting for a comparison of these two. I have a Suhr pro classic and was wondering how the Prs felt compared to the Suhr. I’m a big Prs fan also.
Glad you liked it!
i have both and i personally like my 2010 suhr classic better. i think it sounds better and plays better
@@trey_dizzle4161 meh
The way he talks about the suhr is way I felt when I picked up the Guthrie charvel. Just felt out of this world coming off the back of the strat. I hated that silver sky when it landed, but now I’m really itching to try it. It’s really grown on me and wanted a clapton strat next.
You hated?? 😂😂
And while on the subject, I have a Suhr Classic Antique SSS that’s among the best strats I’ve ever played.
My wife has the Maryland accent really bad. It creeps out sometimes. She grew up near Annapolis. I grew up in Montgomery County and don’t have it. Great playing and tones fellas.
HA! Thanks :)
Ian from Montgomery co.md. and o thought my accent was neutral but people up north think it's a little southern
I'm in the market for a strat style guitar. I'm getting tired of looking for one, but this video puts things in perspective for me every time I watch it.
Dude the playing was killer great video guys
Tough to get a real comparison of the GUITARS when they're playing through 2 completely different rigs.
This is the real truth
Thanks for doing this guys! I playa Tom Anderson and a PRS Custom 24. No I don’t feel like I have to run out and buy one of these!
stuff at 10 mins reminded me an Allman Brothers Les Brers type vibe
AWESOME guitar and WELL made.
PRS all day. I actually feel like he played better on the PRS than on his own instrument lol.
I have a Fender John Mayer Stratocaster setup with Ernie Ball 11s and agree that it has to fight back a bit. It handles all I throw at it with an "is that all you've got" feeling. I'd really like to try a Suhr sometime. That bridge pickup has it.
I love me some Wayne Krantz! This guy rocks. Anyone influenced by Krantz is the real deal.
In this comparison liked the PRS. It had oodles of open strat tone.
He was playing that guitar on the humbucker when he was saying how good a strat sounds. Lol
It was split so techinically a single coil
@@shahmeerhussan5233 it bothers me that so many people didn't notice that
Must be nice to have had a les Paul as a teenager.I waited 56 years to afford one. Still love fenders.
Haha - man it was a cheap $600 Studio that I saved up for years to get. Some days I miss that guitar - my back doesn't though
Loved the video and all info in it. Great jamming! And that thornbucker!!!!!
My take: The PRS has a sweeter, more open sound, somewhat hi-fi and crystalline. Slightly scooped mids with sparkling lows and highs, tons of harmonics. Excellent note separation and detail. The Suhr is much more of a flamethrower. It has a soaring, singing tone with huge, focused mids and a tighter bass. Stronger fundamental with less prominent harmonics. It reminds me a lot of a vintage hardtail with slightly overwound pickups. Definitely a matter of taste, but I prefer the Suhr because it sounds more passionate and powerful. They actually sound great together.
Found this video a few years late, but that jam is so good! Definitely stealing as many licks as I can from you two... 🤘
great tone on both! i also have a suhr classic pro, curious what you're using to get your OD/lead tones. thanks!
That tone at 24:33 was great! How were you getting that? 😜 Really into the Frost Silver Sky-more than I expected I’d be
idk man Im digging the overall tone of the silver sky way more!
Great vid, amazing playing
Thanks!
And the suhr guitar has a compound radius neck
Ricardo Diaz and no single coil noise...
Perfect video to test the speakers on my new walmart HP chromebook lol It passed. Thanks guys that was awesome jam two great players and guitars wow tone heaven!
HA! Thanks :)
Signature models are always difficult because the name on it sometimes constrains artists ability to embrace a product. Many artists online, seem to be hesitant to make the PRS Silver Sky their number 1, as they always have a guitar that happens to be a non-signature allowing themselves to have a more personalized relationship. John Mayer’s SRV strat removed the engraved plate to make it his own. It’s almost as if Hopkins modifying his Suhr made it personal for him. Now I am thinking of taking the Silver Sky plate and having it redone with my initials/signature. Just a thought. On a side note, I bought a singlecut SE (for 100$) at a second hand shop and fell in love with the craftsmanship and tone of PRS’s entry level guitar. After this, I was intrigued about PRS’s s-type guitar and began playing it at my local music shop. I loved the smaller fret size, body shape, left of center, and tone. This tone strikes a tuning fork in my heart, and while I know Fender and Suhr enthusiasts feel a bond and uniqueness to it (which is completely legit) - I connect with Paul Reed Smith’s nerdiness to detail and passion for instrument history. I wonder how Hopkin’s would have felt if the Silver Sky wasn’t attached to Mayer and was instead PRS’s s-type guitar? Great conversation, and great playing. I think if PRS hadn’t hooked me with their entry level efforts, I might have been looking at Suhr’s as well. That being said, I could not be happier with my Silver Sky.
I have both the Silver Sky and CE Dustie Waring (mainly metal/rock player) and the plates are the only thing with their names, I wish I could get a blank anodized one too.
Sorry, the mic is picking him up now.
Not a fair comparison IMHO. The Silver Sky is modelled after John Mayer's '63/64 Fender Strats, the Suhr Classic Pro is a totally different tool (modern neck radius, HSS config., tremolo bridge with dual steel knife edge pivot points ). If it had to be a Suhr/PRS comparison, the Scott Henderson Signature would have been more appropriate. It is also based after Henderson's vintage Fender Strats, and both guitars are fitted with the same three single-coil pickups (output wise) as well as a classic six screw vibrato bridge. Maybe next time...and don't forget to put a Thornbucker into the Silver Sky 😉. Great playing by both of you btw.
Please do more jams like this, like Sunday live jam or Loop jam Q&A. This was awesome 👌🏽
Awesome demo and playing! Any chance you can list the pedals used? In particular I'm curious what the leslie effect was as well as the octave effect. Thanks!
Hey Josh! I was using the Strymon Lex for the Leslie effect, Micro Pog for the Octave and my overdrive was the Vemuram Jan Ray. I think that's all I used haha - I love pedals!
What was the effect being used on the Silver Sky around 34 minutes? Sounded so good!
now I really want a Suhr !! lol
Neither is better nor worse, they are just completely different. I own a Suhr Classic Pro exactly like Marks except I’ve got the stock HB. I definitely agree with Mark about preferring a more modern neck. I was surprised the PRS could do a Major 4th bend without fretting out and so I stand corrected there but I’ll be keeping my Suhr.
Mine comes in tomorrow. I cannot wait!
that wayne krantz lick was totally unexpected!!! respect!
I just bought a Suhr Classic S Paulownia AND a 2019 frost silver sky. I really enjoy both! there are different things to like about both. But two days into owning my Silver Sky I almost want to sell it because the frets are just so short. I’m dragging on the fretboard every bend and losing the string, even. I bought a 2019 for the sound of the higher output pickups that are in the ‘18 & ‘19 models.
Pump up the W Krantz! Love the playing.
Can't believe you can only give 1 thumb up! This deserves 10!
Thanks!
Nice jam! What kind of amp did you guys play?
I have Suhrs and a PRS Silver Sky, I would say IMHO the Suhr feels a lot better in the hands than the SS, also the SCII eliminates the annoying 60 cycle which is very very noticeable in the SS. I would say the Suhr is a 9.5/10 while he SS is a 7/10.
That prs sounds incredible.
That Suhr sounded WAY better
Sean you need to get a hearing test
Odin Runes lol good one.. I need a hearing test because my opinion is different than yours..
Sean you posted on a public forum. If you don't want someone to reply back then don't post. Now go find some kleenex to wipe away your tears.
Get a life
Bigmanbam44 You need a hearing test
Let's make guitar fun again! There you go.
The way he says it doesn’t fight you like a strat makes it seem like it’s the perfect guitar for short scale (gibson, gretsch, prs) players who want strat-like tone.
.........I dunno.......I still love my Squire Bullet Strats......$75.00 used at GC, and when set up, abso-f'n-loutly RIP.....sigh....guess it's just me.
I love my bullet.
Jon Anderson you actually made me smile. Good comment 👍
Dude! I don't know who you are, but this video is fucking awesome. If you do more stuff playing with friends and guests, you'll definitely get me hooked. Love your style. cheers
The Suhr seems a bit more hotter and compressed while the PRS seems much more dynamic and responds greater to the fingers. I suppose this makes the Suhr more forgiving. Both are good, but that thornbucker will make you like the "Strat" bridge.
I would really like to see Jeff Beck play the PRS!😎
finally a strat that tops a fender strat and best part created by a guitar genius whos made a monster and dont have to break the bank
guys? What pedal(s) are U using at the beginning of the jam (and actually from there on as a loop) for the "Leslie-like" sound on the Silver Sky? Thanks a lot - that is the soud I am hopelessly searching for!!
Played a Suhr for a week and thought it was very nice but not as great as people had hyped them to be - weirdly modern. JMSS is much better than I expected (wanted to hate it). Still love my Fender CS Strat a bit better but JMSS is one hell of a guitar.
Can’t wait for a Silver Sky with a quarter-sawed, one piece maple neck and those moon inlays from the PRS DGT ❤️ #takemymoney
I’ve played both and the prs is more comfortable to me and true the original strat sound wise. Being a suhr owner it has many nice features and better aesthetics that I prefer but the prs definitely sounds more like an old real strat
Ganjang gongjangjang yee. The prs sounds and feels killer but is ugly. Suhr sounds and feels good but is gorgeous . Wish fender custom shop wasn’t so darn over priced =/
Suhr hands down. The PRS JM pickups have an almost EMG clarity which I'm sure will have its fans but not for me.
The Suhr sounded throat-er not just on the hot bridge pick-up. Action and gage of strings can be easily changed to suit taste. The neck is a matter of taste so for $2200 must try both for a while.
I'm not so much a "strat" kinda guy as I am a "super-strat" kinda guy. My first electric was an Ibanez StageStar Super-Strat with HSS pickup config, and every guitar I've owned since has followed that sorta shape. My main guitar nowadays is a Jackson SLATTXMG Soloist. They're great value-for-money guitars and they play like a dream. Also probably the cheapest quality neck-thru guitar you could possibly find these days. Mine cost me only $700 CAD.
I think there may even be a version that has non-EMG pickups in it, too, but I could be wrong about that one.
I may be alone, but I prefer the sound of the silver sky by a pretty large margin here...and the comments on the action and tremolo are how I normally would set a strat anyway.
Sandpaper is your friend. As a furnituremkr, don't be afraid of making the guitar your own. 120 grit or higher.
The Suhr is so much sexier.
The Suhr, at least through the rig on the left, sounds great, but it sounds nothing like a Strat, imo. The PRS sounds great and very Strat like. I like a higher setup, myself, but thought Mark did an outstanding job with the lower action. To be fair, the action on the PRS should have been set up to his liking, before the video.
Really enjoyed this awesome jam in the middle
Was that EPMD you were playing dude? I love that riff. Not sure where it comes from though
18:00 Dude is like, "Damn, I could've had a Suhr" LOL
What is "drone " device he is using 9:00- 10;23 ? please ta
EHX "Freeze"
Thanks Mark, good device for practising. In the end did your prefer your Suhr Classis Pro ?. I have decided on a Suhr Classic Antique or Classic Pro. cheers and thanks.
The Suhr was my personal guitar and I have to say, I do prefer it over the Mayer PRS. But that's just my opinion and my hands. For some reason the necks on the Suhrs just feel better to me. You can't go wrong if you decide to get one!
Thanks mark. I have decided on either Classic Pro HSS or Classic Antique HSS. The main reason is their fretwork and neck work.
Solid reasoning to me