All, please let me know if you feel recording in HDR is helping you perceive what I'm talking about. I want to help everyone out as much as possible to understand what the different settings too. SDR just doesn't quite capture it in my opinion. This takes a lot longer to render, but I think it's worth it! Also, any background hiss you hear will be fixed next video... I run a small fan on my Sony A7IV so I can run 10 bit 4k video. It causes the camera to heat up a lot. This fan negates the overheating and allows me to record for an extremely long time
Thanks for sharing your preliminary comments about the Bravia 9. It was fun discovering it together at MWave and really pleased that you pulled the trigger on the big 85". It was certainly impressive seeing it in person and can only imagine how much better it appears with the 85" over the 65"that was featured at MWave. Cheers!
@@joedecordoba2894 hey Joe! Great to see you on here. I hope all has been well 😁 for sure the 85 inch feels like a nice step up on the 65. But man that 65 still was excellent. No matter what size you get this TV is a fantastic product
Great video, sir! I swapped my Hisense U8N for a Bravia 7 and it's sooo much better. The fine details, better motion and Sony refinement are so good. I cant imagine what a Bravia 9 is like. Better than mh LG G4 I bet.
@@dis6900 Hisense is damn good for the price but the processing just isn't there. I would say the Bravia 7 is 85 to 90% of the Bravia 9 picture quality. You have a sensational tv. And it's tough, I really do hate comparing oleds and mini LEDs because they're both incredible technologies for very different things
hey Spencer it's great to see you got that TV you wanted. 65 to 85 is a massive jump you will enjoy going back to your favorites and also seeing new content with more immersion
Thank you! It really is a huge jump. My govees have done well sorta filling that "light gap" I've had but this feels so much more substantial of an upgrade. Gaming so far has been great on it as well. I appreciate your comment 😁
I have the Bravia 9 85" for the basement and I have three LG oleds upstairs . The Bravia 9 is about 90% to the contrast and blacks that the oled can do . Which is really good , but blows everything out the water IMO for brighter scenes . I didn't think I would be happy with a Mini LED, and I do a lot of no light movie watching . The backlight system does a great job with blooming .. very nice tv
@@alvidrez7956 exactly what I've been saying. The brightness adds a new dimension to HDR which oleds just don't have. I love how flexible of an image you can have as well with the tv. It's great to see mini led continue to take steps in improving like it has. Blooming is almost non existent on this tv
@ I watched a movie at night in hdr and there was a fire scene . The brightness was so intense that the light coming off my face almost felt like I was watching a real fire . Not a heat sensation but the mind was tricked into thinking i was by a campfire . It was weird .
@alvidrez7956 Dolby actually talked about this phenomenon happening with 10k nits content. I was watching a UA-cam video with a forest and my nose actually smelled the forest.. I was like... Whoa this is powerful. We are getting to the point where brightness with purpose is becoming a thing and I'm all in for it 😁
@@epenson76 oooh man these are two heavy weights. I will say I don't feel like I've lost OLED picture quality with this tv. But that's just me. I feel like the overhead you get with the brightness makes up for the slight drop in contrast.
I got to Play a lot with the B7 and B9 I went through all the settings and tryed different inputs with different content and the same content on both and honestly I could not see the differences between them at all 😊
@@bungalowtomcat1 I tell people the b7 is about 85 to 90% of the Bravia 9's picture quality. The difference is the ultra bright segments in HDR content and games where the Bravia 9 shines through. The Bravia 7 also doesn't have x wide angle so you'll have more fall off at a shallower angle. The Bravia 7 is a great TV for the money.
Thank you for a great video and your enthusiasm; good to see someone this happy about their purchase. I just ordered 77” A95L but Bravia 9 in 75” would save me $1300. Love the oled contrast, that crisp image, but also the versatility of Bravia 9. Another reason for oled is that my chair is at about 30 degree angle 10’ away from the tv, so in your honest opinion, would there be a big loss in colour and more blooming, or is it a lot more evident at higher angles, and would you say the contrast gets to be 80-90% of OLED, or is it a lot more noticeable. I don’t play video games, just movies, regular tv shows and sports. Much appreciate any input.
@@partizanbgd0113 hi! Thanks for the comment 😁 I have stood off angle at about 30 degrees and don't notice a raise in blooming or a dropoff in color personally. You will definitely notice it fall off more the more drastic the angle is. With how big the TV is and the distance you're at, I don't think you'd see much, if any falloff. I actually think the contrast is in the ballpark of OLED too. I was watching my a90j yesterday just after watching my Bravia 9 and it's not a huge difference in perceivable contrast. What you gain in brightness more than makes up for it in my eyes. I was noticeably more immersed in the content. Also, I was watching the Michigan basketball game and some of the NFL games today and the motion is clean and smooth. In sdr the colors are vibrant and lifelike. You will not need to push the brightness to be happy with the tv
@ thank you for such a quick response 👍. I agree with the statement that at the end of the day, it’s about the experience. I’ve been going back and forth between these two models like crazy so your input is much appreciated. Congrats on your purchase again. At that size, mini LED is a wise choice as I believe new content will continue to come out in higher nits and Bravia 9 somewhat future proofs you, and OLEDS “should” continue to evolve and drop in price. I could be wrong, but just my 2 cents. Cheers
@@partizanbgd0113 you're welcome! I think no matter what you pick, you'll be happy. Personally, I think I'd pick the 85 inch over the 77 inch and keep that brightness in the back pocket. You can always turn down brightness and improve contrast. I really feel like the 85 inch has OLED like contrast already. I'm sure you could pick up the minimal, if any blooming, in the video. It just looks fantastic.
I would really like you to share your opinion on the Bravia 9’s performance with lower quality content. Maybe even a demonstration! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the Soap Opera comment. Me too. It's important for Sony to hear that picture control's are important to enthusiasts. For years the "expert reviewer's " have gone on about shutting off any picture enhancing features. Except Brian at Tech Therapy.
@@davidmojonnier1034 you're correct. There are a lot of us who prefer the different features and feeling like the TV is our own. Just like any car, painting, art, whatever, things are down to preference and interpretation!
@@AnythingGoesJoJo not gonna lie, I was on the fence about grabbing the z9k instead just because of the higher resolution at that size. You got a fantastic tv. It was at my local best buy and it looked stunning.
Hi even I've just recently purchased an 85 inch Bravia 9. Just wanted to ask have you calibrated this TV yet? If so can you share/post your entire picture settings in SDR, HDR and DV modes? I'm a casual viewer and not an expert so i don't know how to calibrate it
@@jaisharma6849 I did not have a professional calibration done on my tv. I don't really care to have my tvs look that way. But yes I'll post my personal settings in an upcoming video 😁
I game and watch movies and am seriously leaning towards a 65" Bravia 7 or an X90L....I wasn't really a Sony fan but I think I'd be in denial if I didn't admit they're the BEST tv's right now. I've been looking at flagship TCL and Hisense but I think I'd be disappointed if I didn't spend the little bit extra and go with Sony.....I don't want another Samsung and I don't really trust LG
@@dhowting between the x90l and the Bravia 7, I would 100% recommend getting the Bravia 7. Mini led is a substantial step up from the full array local dimming you'll get on the x90l.
I'm heartbroken because I just returned a B9 because I couldn't get the motion on it to match the quality of my X900H. Don't know why. Was gonna ask you about your motion opinions, but you mentioned you are an SOE guy, and I am not, so your experience is probably buttery smooth and I'm not sure you can help answer my questions. Looking forward to more videos. Thanks!
@ Yes. Intermittent microstutters. My usual on-board UA-cam app content was all over the place no matter what setting. Not used to that. Other on-board apps too. (Yes, I know - onboard apps, right?) For the serious TV viewing, however, I boot up my external Apple TV with match framerate and dynamic range on, and it was better, but still not as flawless as my X900H. Again, occasional micro stutter. Tried various non SOE motion settings. Jumping from an X1 to an XR processor introduced me to more motion settings, but I'm wondering if the new backlight technology is getting in the way of the world famous Sony motion processing I'm used to. Hoping Sony are aware of this and can fix in future sw updates. I'd like to try the B9 again in the future. Preferably with a substantial price drop. Yikes!
@@suedepup I still get the occasional stutters or poor motion with extremely low bit rate content since the interpolation can't keep up, but I'm used to it from my a90j. I understand what you mean though. I actually think part of the issue is the pixel response being faster. My x930e had much slower pixel response but had lovely motion. Who knows
@ So am I asking for more trouble wanting to give an LG G4 a try? Never had an OLED. Is OLED motion a whole other ballgame? I've heard great things about LG's "Cinematic Motion" setting.
@@suedepup you can always try it. LG does have great motion. Since I use motion interpolation, my native panel motion opinion largely comes from gaming. Natively I think any tv nowadays have great motion but it's down to the person watching if they like how it looks. I imagine it wouldnt be too hard to find an LG at a local tv store, best buy, whatever and try the motion for yourself. I find with how fast the pixel response on oleds is, stuttering is more noticeable
@@bungalowtomcat1 I haven't gotten much hands on time with the b7 except at best buy. From what I can tell, youre getting about 80 to 90% of the picture quality of the Bravia 9 on the Bravia 7. On the Bravia 9 you're definitely paying for that extra 10 to 15%. From what I could tell, off angle viewing was a little better on the b9. I felt the contrast was also better. Brightness was comparable. The Bravia 9 shined more on much higher nit content. I didn't get to game on the 7 though. Anyone who buys the Bravia 7 is getting what I equate the x930e or 940e to when the z9d came out years ago
@@Bklynblaze1 not at all. You can always scale back the brightness to what is comfortable for you. You have a ton of headroom to work with on this tv, so if you ever want to crank it, you can. If you want the deepest blacks and contrast you'll want an OLED, but if you aren't a brightness person, this tv scaled back should provide you as good of black levels
@@sj460162 Samsung tends to over saturate their colors and go for more "pop" vs Sony. The beautiful thing as a consumer is we have a ton of great options out there 😁
My panel has been great. No noticeable DSE or anything. I pay the extra for Sony because they've always held up for me and I love their color science/processing compared to other brands. It's great we have so many options in the market to choose from
All, please let me know if you feel recording in HDR is helping you perceive what I'm talking about. I want to help everyone out as much as possible to understand what the different settings too. SDR just doesn't quite capture it in my opinion. This takes a lot longer to render, but I think it's worth it!
Also, any background hiss you hear will be fixed next video... I run a small fan on my Sony A7IV so I can run 10 bit 4k video. It causes the camera to heat up a lot. This fan negates the overheating and allows me to record for an extremely long time
I'm so glad you ended up getting it! Keep up the great content
@@baconbutter thank you so much 😁
Thanks for sharing your preliminary comments about the Bravia 9. It was fun discovering it together at MWave and really pleased that you pulled the trigger on the big 85". It was certainly impressive seeing it in person and can only imagine how much better it appears with the 85" over the 65"that was featured at MWave. Cheers!
@@joedecordoba2894 hey Joe! Great to see you on here. I hope all has been well 😁 for sure the 85 inch feels like a nice step up on the 65. But man that 65 still was excellent. No matter what size you get this TV is a fantastic product
Great video, sir! I swapped my Hisense U8N for a Bravia 7 and it's sooo much better. The fine details, better motion and Sony refinement are so good. I cant imagine what a Bravia 9 is like. Better than mh LG G4 I bet.
@@dis6900 Hisense is damn good for the price but the processing just isn't there. I would say the Bravia 7 is 85 to 90% of the Bravia 9 picture quality. You have a sensational tv. And it's tough, I really do hate comparing oleds and mini LEDs because they're both incredible technologies for very different things
hey Spencer it's great to see you got that TV you wanted. 65 to 85 is a massive jump you will enjoy going back to your favorites and also seeing new content with more immersion
Thank you! It really is a huge jump. My govees have done well sorta filling that "light gap" I've had but this feels so much more substantial of an upgrade. Gaming so far has been great on it as well. I appreciate your comment 😁
I have the Bravia 9 85" for the basement and I have three LG oleds upstairs . The Bravia 9 is about 90% to the contrast and blacks that the oled can do . Which is really good , but blows everything out the water IMO for brighter scenes . I didn't think I would be happy with a Mini LED, and I do a lot of no light movie watching . The backlight system does a great job with blooming .. very nice tv
@@alvidrez7956 exactly what I've been saying. The brightness adds a new dimension to HDR which oleds just don't have. I love how flexible of an image you can have as well with the tv. It's great to see mini led continue to take steps in improving like it has. Blooming is almost non existent on this tv
@ I watched a movie at night in hdr and there was a fire scene . The brightness was so intense that the light coming off my face almost felt like I was watching a real fire . Not a heat sensation but the mind was tricked into thinking i was by a campfire . It was weird .
@alvidrez7956 Dolby actually talked about this phenomenon happening with 10k nits content. I was watching a UA-cam video with a forest and my nose actually smelled the forest.. I was like... Whoa this is powerful. We are getting to the point where brightness with purpose is becoming a thing and I'm all in for it 😁
Thanks for the video I have been debating between this tv and the 83 lgg4.
@@epenson76 oooh man these are two heavy weights. I will say I don't feel like I've lost OLED picture quality with this tv. But that's just me. I feel like the overhead you get with the brightness makes up for the slight drop in contrast.
I got to Play a lot with the B7 and B9 I went through all the settings and tryed different inputs with different content and the same content on both and honestly I could not see the differences between them at all 😊
@@bungalowtomcat1 I tell people the b7 is about 85 to 90% of the Bravia 9's picture quality. The difference is the ultra bright segments in HDR content and games where the Bravia 9 shines through. The Bravia 7 also doesn't have x wide angle so you'll have more fall off at a shallower angle. The Bravia 7 is a great TV for the money.
Thank you for a great video and your enthusiasm; good to see someone this happy about their purchase. I just ordered 77” A95L but Bravia 9 in 75” would save me $1300. Love the oled contrast, that crisp image, but also the versatility of Bravia 9. Another reason for oled is that my chair is at about 30 degree angle 10’ away from the tv, so in your honest opinion, would there be a big loss in colour and more blooming, or is it a lot more evident at higher angles, and would you say the contrast gets to be 80-90% of OLED, or is it a lot more noticeable. I don’t play video games, just movies, regular tv shows and sports. Much appreciate any input.
@@partizanbgd0113 hi! Thanks for the comment 😁 I have stood off angle at about 30 degrees and don't notice a raise in blooming or a dropoff in color personally. You will definitely notice it fall off more the more drastic the angle is. With how big the TV is and the distance you're at, I don't think you'd see much, if any falloff.
I actually think the contrast is in the ballpark of OLED too. I was watching my a90j yesterday just after watching my Bravia 9 and it's not a huge difference in perceivable contrast. What you gain in brightness more than makes up for it in my eyes. I was noticeably more immersed in the content. Also, I was watching the Michigan basketball game and some of the NFL games today and the motion is clean and smooth. In sdr the colors are vibrant and lifelike. You will not need to push the brightness to be happy with the tv
@ thank you for such a quick response 👍. I agree with the statement that at the end of the day, it’s about the experience. I’ve been going back and forth between these two models like crazy so your input is much appreciated. Congrats on your purchase again. At that size, mini LED is a wise choice as I believe new content will continue to come out in higher nits and Bravia 9 somewhat future proofs you, and OLEDS “should” continue to evolve and drop in price. I could be wrong, but just my 2 cents.
Cheers
@@partizanbgd0113 you're welcome! I think no matter what you pick, you'll be happy. Personally, I think I'd pick the 85 inch over the 77 inch and keep that brightness in the back pocket. You can always turn down brightness and improve contrast. I really feel like the 85 inch has OLED like contrast already. I'm sure you could pick up the minimal, if any blooming, in the video. It just looks fantastic.
I would really like you to share your opinion on the Bravia 9’s performance with lower quality content. Maybe even a demonstration! Thanks for the video!
@@schlagboy I'll add it to my list. Thank you for the recommendation 😁
Thanks for the Soap Opera comment.
Me too. It's important for Sony to hear that picture control's are important to enthusiasts.
For years the "expert reviewer's " have gone on about shutting off any picture enhancing features. Except Brian at Tech Therapy.
@@davidmojonnier1034 you're correct. There are a lot of us who prefer the different features and feeling like the TV is our own. Just like any car, painting, art, whatever, things are down to preference and interpretation!
I got the 85" Z9K this year back in late April this year after Sony announced the Bravia 9 😊
@@AnythingGoesJoJo not gonna lie, I was on the fence about grabbing the z9k instead just because of the higher resolution at that size. You got a fantastic tv. It was at my local best buy and it looked stunning.
Hi even I've just recently purchased an 85 inch Bravia 9. Just wanted to ask have you calibrated this TV yet? If so can you share/post your entire picture settings in SDR, HDR and DV modes? I'm a casual viewer and not an expert so i don't know how to calibrate it
@@jaisharma6849 I did not have a professional calibration done on my tv. I don't really care to have my tvs look that way. But yes I'll post my personal settings in an upcoming video 😁
@@SpencersStuffTV i have a 85 since July very very happy with it, and hope to see your settings soon. Thks
@@luishuertassanchezdelpozo4042 I will for sure be posting them soon. Still trying to figure out precisely what I like 😁
Thanks for the review I'm thinking about buying the sony x90L for Christmas
Oooh great tv! What size are you looking at?
I game and watch movies and am seriously leaning towards a 65" Bravia 7 or an X90L....I wasn't really a Sony fan but I think I'd be in denial if I didn't admit they're the BEST tv's right now. I've been looking at flagship TCL and Hisense but I think I'd be disappointed if I didn't spend the little bit extra and go with Sony.....I don't want another Samsung and I don't really trust LG
@@dhowting between the x90l and the Bravia 7, I would 100% recommend getting the Bravia 7. Mini led is a substantial step up from the full array local dimming you'll get on the x90l.
at 3:55, do you see artifact?
@@user-cj7zk1vb6s there is some artifacting due to the motion interpolation. I use the soap opera effect on my tv
I'm heartbroken because I just returned a B9 because I couldn't get the motion on it to match the quality of my X900H. Don't know why. Was gonna ask you about your motion opinions, but you mentioned you are an SOE guy, and I am not, so your experience is probably buttery smooth and I'm not sure you can help answer my questions. Looking forward to more videos. Thanks!
@@suedepup that's very unfortunate. Were you getting stuttering? What did you notice was the major difference between this and your 900h?
@ Yes. Intermittent microstutters. My usual on-board UA-cam app content was all over the place no matter what setting. Not used to that. Other on-board apps too. (Yes, I know - onboard apps, right?) For the serious TV viewing, however, I boot up my external Apple TV with match framerate and dynamic range on, and it was better, but still not as flawless as my X900H. Again, occasional micro stutter. Tried various non SOE motion settings. Jumping from an X1 to an XR processor introduced me to more motion settings, but I'm wondering if the new backlight technology is getting in the way of the world famous Sony motion processing I'm used to. Hoping Sony are aware of this and can fix in future sw updates. I'd like to try the B9 again in the future. Preferably with a substantial price drop. Yikes!
@@suedepup I still get the occasional stutters or poor motion with extremely low bit rate content since the interpolation can't keep up, but I'm used to it from my a90j. I understand what you mean though. I actually think part of the issue is the pixel response being faster. My x930e had much slower pixel response but had lovely motion. Who knows
@ So am I asking for more trouble wanting to give an LG G4 a try? Never had an OLED. Is OLED motion a whole other ballgame? I've heard great things about LG's "Cinematic Motion" setting.
@@suedepup you can always try it. LG does have great motion. Since I use motion interpolation, my native panel motion opinion largely comes from gaming. Natively I think any tv nowadays have great motion but it's down to the person watching if they like how it looks. I imagine it wouldnt be too hard to find an LG at a local tv store, best buy, whatever and try the motion for yourself. I find with how fast the pixel response on oleds is, stuttering is more noticeable
Have you seen the B7 vs B9 do you really think there is much if any difference between them 🤔 If so what are they
@@bungalowtomcat1 I haven't gotten much hands on time with the b7 except at best buy. From what I can tell, youre getting about 80 to 90% of the picture quality of the Bravia 9 on the Bravia 7. On the Bravia 9 you're definitely paying for that extra 10 to 15%.
From what I could tell, off angle viewing was a little better on the b9. I felt the contrast was also better. Brightness was comparable. The Bravia 9 shined more on much higher nit content. I didn't get to game on the 7 though.
Anyone who buys the Bravia 7 is getting what I equate the x930e or 940e to when the z9d came out years ago
@SpencersStuffTV what about Motion in all content
@@bungalowtomcat1 they both share the same processor so I wouldn't see why the Bravia 7 motion would be any better or worse than the Bravia 9
WOW 👑 SONY GOD FOREVER 🥇✌️👑
Sorry Sony no good this year's they not do any improvement a lot of problems Hardware software update problema and it's too expensive
What do you think of skin tones? I didn’t see any faces.
@@MSDOGS1976 the skin tones look extremely natural in HDR and SDR. Sony tvs generally do great when it comes to skin tones
Is this tv too bright for a basement setting? Am I better off getting an OLED?
@@Bklynblaze1 not at all. You can always scale back the brightness to what is comfortable for you. You have a ton of headroom to work with on this tv, so if you ever want to crank it, you can. If you want the deepest blacks and contrast you'll want an OLED, but if you aren't a brightness person, this tv scaled back should provide you as good of black levels
@@SpencersStuffTVThat’s true. And you’re right about OLEDS sometimes crushing blacks and not having the shadow details of a mini led.
It's the truth lol. I think, at times, the non perfect blacks can help give more shadow detail. Man this TV comes so close
I feel the colours on a sammy are better and richer for my tastes.
@@sj460162 Samsung tends to over saturate their colors and go for more "pop" vs Sony. The beautiful thing as a consumer is we have a ton of great options out there 😁
Eating good !
@@MeLucky-KuNGPaO yes sir! I'm very excited 😁
@ keep masterBatinG
i hope you get good screen not a lot of problem hardware software update I don't like Sony this is a too much expensive and not improvement
My panel has been great. No noticeable DSE or anything. I pay the extra for Sony because they've always held up for me and I love their color science/processing compared to other brands. It's great we have so many options in the market to choose from